06-26-2012, 12:57 PM
Happy Birthday, legend!!!
Wow, We have used this new forum for more than a year
Wow, We have used this new forum for more than a year
06-26-2012, 01:12 PM
(06-26-2012, 12:57 PM)Aficio Wrote: [ -> ]Happy Birthday, legend!!!
Wow, We have used this new forum for more than a year
yep and we have never felt more like home...Thnx REZA
Happy B-day Legend. In times like this when FAITH is challenged, peoples like you are inspirational to us.
06-26-2012, 04:24 PM
12-29-2012, 01:12 PM
Maldini gave a very frank interview about Milan and our situation. It's not particularly positive at all, but I must say that it's hard to disagree with a lot of what he's saying too.
http://translate.googleusercontent.com/t...PmDh7oKZ8A
http://translate.googleusercontent.com/t...PmDh7oKZ8A
12-29-2012, 01:29 PM
From the translation of the interview's title (Maldini hard: "There is no programming, Braida is always less his work. Milan lost magic: I'll explain why ...), it seems he talked about criticism. I have not read yet, am waiting for English version like from football italia.
12-29-2012, 01:38 PM
Here's the full interview.
http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?...CDoQ7gEwAA
It's not totally negative, but he makes no qualms in explaining his reasoning as to the problems in Italian football and Milan. I've mentioned in a number of posts about building our culture in the club as we rejuvenate and I think he's answers allude to this as well, particularly talking about how Milan has lost its "magic"
http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?...CDoQ7gEwAA
It's not totally negative, but he makes no qualms in explaining his reasoning as to the problems in Italian football and Milan. I've mentioned in a number of posts about building our culture in the club as we rejuvenate and I think he's answers allude to this as well, particularly talking about how Milan has lost its "magic"
12-29-2012, 03:54 PM
Milan legend Paolo Maldini blasted his old club for their dip in fortunes and reveals the offers he turned down. “They sold top players and lost the magic.”
The retired defender had been expected to take a job working within the Rossoneri camp after hanging up his boots in 2009, but has not returned to San Siro.
“I have done many things in football and was in this world for 31 years starting from the youth academy. There is a ‘risk’ I’ll be left out of the football world now, but I had such a strong bond with Milan that it is difficult to imagine myself with another club, even a European one,” he told La Repubblica newspaper.
“I have never considered being a Coach, because I saw the nomadic lifestyle my father Cesare had to go through in order to work. Plus I don’t see myself anywhere except Milan, so my chances of finding another coaching job in Italy would be close to zero.
“I don’t want to be a director because I don’t like politics. If I were to remain working in football, it would be in bringing my football knowledge. There are few who are 100 per cent competent, know about tactics, players and sports psychology. I am not interested in a role just for the prestige of it.”
It has long been suggested that Maldini won’t return to work for Milan because of his bad rapport with Vice-President Adriano Galliani.
“I was fortunate enough to be with Milan for 25 splendid years. When I arrived, I found a great foundation to build a great club. President Silvio Berlusconi arrived and taught us to think big, also of course with his investments. Arrigo Sacchi came and we had the mentality that we’d become the symbol of a style of football.
“It was something magical. Slowly, the magic was lost and Milan transformed into an absolutely normal club. That’s because Milan stopped transmitting that message and those who had written the history of the club stopped teaching their knowledge to the next generation. There is nobody in the current Milan set-up who wrote history, other than those in marginal roles,” added the 44-year-old.
“Look at Bayern Munich and Real Madrid, who had directors like Beckenbauer, Hoeness, Rummenigge, Butragueno, Gallego and Valdano. This magic can be carried on and taught by those who experienced and even created it. Milan had the magic for 25 years, but then lost it.
“It is difficult to evaluate the planning of this Milan side, as over the summer they released 12 players of great character and still didn’t expect a difficult start to the season. In all honesty, I can’t see what their plans are. Choosing certain players, even if they are on free transfers, look a world away from a specific plan.
“I’ll reveal to you that Leonardo wanted me at Milanello, even if I was just to stand there and show my presence. I told him there was no point in my turning up without a role. Galliani told me and Leo that a director of sport was no longer necessary in football, but I think there is a real need for one.
“Last year, Max Allegri called me and said he needed someone to keep an eye on him, to say whether he’d done something wrong tactically or in dealing with the locker room. He needed someone with the character to talk to the more important players in an authoritative manner. He thought that I, with my past, could do that.
“Anyway, I’d like to destroy this myth that I am ‘one of the family’ at Milan. They don’t particularly want me there. I feel bitter, but not just for me – also for everything we created together that has fallen apart. It’s the same sensation many of my ex-teammates have. I just want to give the magic back to Milan.
“I won more than anyone with this club and played more games than anyone, but I feel Milan have given me even more. I feel a debt of gratitude to Milan.”
Maldini also revealed he rejected big money moves from some of Europe’s top sides during his time at San Siro.
“Juventus wanted me, while Gianluca Vialli called me to Chelsea in 1996, but I preferred to stay with Milan to recover from a disastrous year. It was the right choice. Arsenal made an economic offer and there was also a request from Sir Alex Ferguson at Manchester United.
“The truth is that most of these offers coincided with terrible seasons for Milan. It probably would’ve been easier to accept, but those of us in the foundations of the team took our responsibility and preferred to stay so we could turn the situation around.”
The retired defender had been expected to take a job working within the Rossoneri camp after hanging up his boots in 2009, but has not returned to San Siro.
“I have done many things in football and was in this world for 31 years starting from the youth academy. There is a ‘risk’ I’ll be left out of the football world now, but I had such a strong bond with Milan that it is difficult to imagine myself with another club, even a European one,” he told La Repubblica newspaper.
“I have never considered being a Coach, because I saw the nomadic lifestyle my father Cesare had to go through in order to work. Plus I don’t see myself anywhere except Milan, so my chances of finding another coaching job in Italy would be close to zero.
“I don’t want to be a director because I don’t like politics. If I were to remain working in football, it would be in bringing my football knowledge. There are few who are 100 per cent competent, know about tactics, players and sports psychology. I am not interested in a role just for the prestige of it.”
It has long been suggested that Maldini won’t return to work for Milan because of his bad rapport with Vice-President Adriano Galliani.
“I was fortunate enough to be with Milan for 25 splendid years. When I arrived, I found a great foundation to build a great club. President Silvio Berlusconi arrived and taught us to think big, also of course with his investments. Arrigo Sacchi came and we had the mentality that we’d become the symbol of a style of football.
“It was something magical. Slowly, the magic was lost and Milan transformed into an absolutely normal club. That’s because Milan stopped transmitting that message and those who had written the history of the club stopped teaching their knowledge to the next generation. There is nobody in the current Milan set-up who wrote history, other than those in marginal roles,” added the 44-year-old.
“Look at Bayern Munich and Real Madrid, who had directors like Beckenbauer, Hoeness, Rummenigge, Butragueno, Gallego and Valdano. This magic can be carried on and taught by those who experienced and even created it. Milan had the magic for 25 years, but then lost it.
“It is difficult to evaluate the planning of this Milan side, as over the summer they released 12 players of great character and still didn’t expect a difficult start to the season. In all honesty, I can’t see what their plans are. Choosing certain players, even if they are on free transfers, look a world away from a specific plan.
“I’ll reveal to you that Leonardo wanted me at Milanello, even if I was just to stand there and show my presence. I told him there was no point in my turning up without a role. Galliani told me and Leo that a director of sport was no longer necessary in football, but I think there is a real need for one.
“Last year, Max Allegri called me and said he needed someone to keep an eye on him, to say whether he’d done something wrong tactically or in dealing with the locker room. He needed someone with the character to talk to the more important players in an authoritative manner. He thought that I, with my past, could do that.
“Anyway, I’d like to destroy this myth that I am ‘one of the family’ at Milan. They don’t particularly want me there. I feel bitter, but not just for me – also for everything we created together that has fallen apart. It’s the same sensation many of my ex-teammates have. I just want to give the magic back to Milan.
“I won more than anyone with this club and played more games than anyone, but I feel Milan have given me even more. I feel a debt of gratitude to Milan.”
Maldini also revealed he rejected big money moves from some of Europe’s top sides during his time at San Siro.
“Juventus wanted me, while Gianluca Vialli called me to Chelsea in 1996, but I preferred to stay with Milan to recover from a disastrous year. It was the right choice. Arsenal made an economic offer and there was also a request from Sir Alex Ferguson at Manchester United.
“The truth is that most of these offers coincided with terrible seasons for Milan. It probably would’ve been easier to accept, but those of us in the foundations of the team took our responsibility and preferred to stay so we could turn the situation around.”
12-29-2012, 04:22 PM
finally il capitano has spoken, galliani is stupid for saying that we dont need a director of football anymore, this is football not just a company that can be run by people who know about economics and statistic. football need someone who know about the game, about the culture, so the heritage will be carry on to the next generation. what maldini said is correct in every way, that we dont have a plan just a goal for this current milan and that goal is to become a selling club, to make profit. we are not udinese, arsenal or even ajax. we are AC MILAN! and will always be AC MILAN! there is a reason why this season yearly ticket holders has drop to a magnificent level of low. that is because we are not what we used to be, a big club with the ambition of winning every competition in the world.
12-29-2012, 04:47 PM
Quote:“Anyway, I’d like to destroy this myth that I am ‘one of the family’ at Milan. They don’t particularly want me there. I feel bitter, but not just for me – also for everything we created together that has fallen apart. It’s the same sensation many of my ex-teammates have. I just want to give the magic back to Milan.
I have heard this before. From what I read, Galliani has been doing everything in his power to keep Maldini away from Milan as he feels threatened. That's just one more reason that I dislike that bald cheapo.
12-29-2012, 05:09 PM
Here's the best English translation (link courtesy of posters at R&B forums).
http://dailymilan.com/news/ac-milan-are-...o-maldini/
In all honesty, I read all of the links I posted (as well as football Italia's article) and it's disheartening and sad. Talking purely from the point of Maldini, it's just depressing that probably the most decorated player in the club's history and probably the biggest icon the club's had is no longer even feeling welcome at the club. I couldn't believe that Berlu hasn't even been in touch with Paolo after he retired until the 25th anniversary party. I started following Milan not long after Maldini broke into the first team and saw his whole career as I grew up. As a fan, it's seriously depressing to think that the biggest constant during my time as a Milan fan is now "rejected" by the club's management. I find it depressing enough that Baresi's role in the club is marginal at best.
I agree with sylrus that Galliani's idea that a sporting director is no longer necessary seems stupid as you need directors who can uphold the sporting standards of the club and help manage the sporting side of the club (also what role is Braida in then?). The person in this role has to understand football from the perspective of players and coaches and sports psychology. Galliani can't do this because for all of the history and success he's got in football, he's got no experience or authority at the level which he can relate to players and coaches. Leonardo, when at Milan was a technical director. Besides his obvious duties in scouting Brazilian talent, I think it's pretty clear he was closely involved in working with Ancelotti, the players and Galliani. To me, he was essentially fulfilling the duties of a sporting director during his time with us, liasing with higher management in the direction the club was taking, working closely with the coaching and playing staff to meet their needs and help control the dressing room and finally playing a huge role when the club acquired new players.
Maldini's clearly right about Braida. There's only so much one man can do to assess players across the world and look to buy them, especially one who has limited success/experience as a player and is now ageing as a director. He needs help, at least one other to support him, if not two if we're seriously looking to make an effort in bringing in younger talents who haven't already reached their peaks. Braida's supposedly our sporting director, but he's rarely involved with the players and coaches, spending what seems the vast majority of time scouting and assessing potential transfer targets.
This leads me to another point. Leonardo and Allegri have been heavily criticised during their time as Milan coach, but you can't help but feel sorry for them as they've both identified the need for someone who can help keep the culture at the club, clearly acknowledging the need of sporting directors. Allegri's situation in particular interested me, as he clearly wanted Maldini at Milan (this isn't the first time this has been mentioned) and for him to essentially work out all the details, only to simply not contact Maldini after making a lot of efforts to get him on board seems more than a little fishy. My bet would be on someone higher up stopping further progress. The most obvious person seems Galliani, someone who doesn't seem to get on with Maldini and someone rumoured to be anything but keen on Maldini's return, but for now I'm speculating. The funny thing is, according to Maldini, Allegri wanted him for exactly the reasons we criticise Allegri, to be an important man-manager for the players and help him identify when he's making technical mistakes from another perspective, something which Galliani can't do.
I'll end by saying this interview brings to light a lot of the problems in Italian football and Milan. We need guys like Maldini, Costacurta and Baresi around to lead the club into the future (not from a financial perspective, but a sporting one), but it does seem the older generation of management won't let that happen. There's clearly a lot of politics involved, as it makes no sense as to why guys like Costacurta and Maldini haven't been offered roles in the club, while someone like Inzaghi, who to be frank doesn't even have half the history of these guys is suddenly coaching at youth level with no experience, during a period when we're apparently trying stupidly hard to develop successful youth players and could use coaches at that level who have experience and proven skills. I'm extremely bitter about the fact that many of the strongest personalities during the Berlu era no longer have any real involvement at the club, but also I'm worried because if there's much truth in this interview, the management of the club is damaging the club's chances for success in the future.
http://dailymilan.com/news/ac-milan-are-...o-maldini/
In all honesty, I read all of the links I posted (as well as football Italia's article) and it's disheartening and sad. Talking purely from the point of Maldini, it's just depressing that probably the most decorated player in the club's history and probably the biggest icon the club's had is no longer even feeling welcome at the club. I couldn't believe that Berlu hasn't even been in touch with Paolo after he retired until the 25th anniversary party. I started following Milan not long after Maldini broke into the first team and saw his whole career as I grew up. As a fan, it's seriously depressing to think that the biggest constant during my time as a Milan fan is now "rejected" by the club's management. I find it depressing enough that Baresi's role in the club is marginal at best.
I agree with sylrus that Galliani's idea that a sporting director is no longer necessary seems stupid as you need directors who can uphold the sporting standards of the club and help manage the sporting side of the club (also what role is Braida in then?). The person in this role has to understand football from the perspective of players and coaches and sports psychology. Galliani can't do this because for all of the history and success he's got in football, he's got no experience or authority at the level which he can relate to players and coaches. Leonardo, when at Milan was a technical director. Besides his obvious duties in scouting Brazilian talent, I think it's pretty clear he was closely involved in working with Ancelotti, the players and Galliani. To me, he was essentially fulfilling the duties of a sporting director during his time with us, liasing with higher management in the direction the club was taking, working closely with the coaching and playing staff to meet their needs and help control the dressing room and finally playing a huge role when the club acquired new players.
Maldini's clearly right about Braida. There's only so much one man can do to assess players across the world and look to buy them, especially one who has limited success/experience as a player and is now ageing as a director. He needs help, at least one other to support him, if not two if we're seriously looking to make an effort in bringing in younger talents who haven't already reached their peaks. Braida's supposedly our sporting director, but he's rarely involved with the players and coaches, spending what seems the vast majority of time scouting and assessing potential transfer targets.
This leads me to another point. Leonardo and Allegri have been heavily criticised during their time as Milan coach, but you can't help but feel sorry for them as they've both identified the need for someone who can help keep the culture at the club, clearly acknowledging the need of sporting directors. Allegri's situation in particular interested me, as he clearly wanted Maldini at Milan (this isn't the first time this has been mentioned) and for him to essentially work out all the details, only to simply not contact Maldini after making a lot of efforts to get him on board seems more than a little fishy. My bet would be on someone higher up stopping further progress. The most obvious person seems Galliani, someone who doesn't seem to get on with Maldini and someone rumoured to be anything but keen on Maldini's return, but for now I'm speculating. The funny thing is, according to Maldini, Allegri wanted him for exactly the reasons we criticise Allegri, to be an important man-manager for the players and help him identify when he's making technical mistakes from another perspective, something which Galliani can't do.
I'll end by saying this interview brings to light a lot of the problems in Italian football and Milan. We need guys like Maldini, Costacurta and Baresi around to lead the club into the future (not from a financial perspective, but a sporting one), but it does seem the older generation of management won't let that happen. There's clearly a lot of politics involved, as it makes no sense as to why guys like Costacurta and Maldini haven't been offered roles in the club, while someone like Inzaghi, who to be frank doesn't even have half the history of these guys is suddenly coaching at youth level with no experience, during a period when we're apparently trying stupidly hard to develop successful youth players and could use coaches at that level who have experience and proven skills. I'm extremely bitter about the fact that many of the strongest personalities during the Berlu era no longer have any real involvement at the club, but also I'm worried because if there's much truth in this interview, the management of the club is damaging the club's chances for success in the future.