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Welcome Milan369

WCmilan, where did you read that about Niang?
(07-19-2017, 08:43 PM)reza Wrote: [ -> ]Welcome Milan369

WCmilan, where did you read that about Niang?

Thank you. Really a Great time for Milan. All of my friends are PL supporters. Even they have started to talk about Milan especially after Bonucci Heart
(07-19-2017, 08:10 PM)Ryo Wrote: [ -> ]Mate, I agree that he would have a higher profile, hence a higher chance of making the WC squad if he played for an up and coming team like ours will be. But you miss the point. Even if Torino won't let him go, even if he is pissed about it, he won't just give up his chances of playing in the World Cup by going on strike and refusing to play when Mijhalovic calls him up to play.

You forget the story about De Gea trying to force a move to Madrid in 2015? What did United do? They threw him down to the reserves for a month until he relented and signed an extension with them to 2019. Why did he sign? Because he didn't want to miss the Euros due to lack of playing time/performances.

Cairo owns Belotti until 2020, he can do whatever he wants to him before that. I distinctly recall certain sections of our own fanbase saying to bench Dolla this year and force him to miss out on the WC. This is the exact same scenario we're talking about.

But the question is, can Torino really count on him having another year like 2016-17? Motivation is one thing, and I do think it would suffer a bit if he is forced to stay, but they could also end up having a shit season and his performances suffer as a result. What then? Or they could have the same doubts as a lot of people in here, that he might be a one season wonder. It's true that Cairo can do what he wants with Belotti until 2020, but at the end of the day I think pragmatism will win and he will choose to cash in.

The De Gea story is a bit different, because Man Utd are a big club too. Not quite as big as Real Madrid, but still. With all due respect to Torino, they're not going to do something like that if one of their players wants to join a club like Milan. They're not big enough for that. And then they'd definitely lose out on the massive transfer fee they're currently demanding for him.
Official: Verratti hires Raiola.

I guess that rules out seeing him playing for us.
Some nice words from Perez at Real Madrid, btw: "Milan is waking up. For 50 years our rival was Milan, not Barca or anyone else."
(07-19-2017, 09:00 PM)devoted_dm Wrote: [ -> ]But the question is, can Torino really count on him having another year like 2016-17? Motivation is one thing, and I do think it would suffer a bit if he is forced to stay, but they could also end up having a shit season and his performances suffer as a result. What then? Or they could have the same doubts as a lot of people in here, that he might be a one season wonder. It's true that Cairo can do what he wants with Belotti until 2020, but at the end of the day I think pragmatism will win and he will choose to cash in.

The De Gea story is a bit different, because Man Utd are a big club too. Not quite as big as Real Madrid, but still. With all due respect to Torino, they're not going to do something like that if one of their players wants to join a club like Milan. They're not big enough for that. And then they'd definitely lose out on the massive transfer fee they're currently demanding for him.

Mate, the question is: why can't they count on him  having another year like this? The reason why Milan want to get him right now is exactly because we expect him to have another season like this. Cairo knows this too, he's not an idiot. And if his entire team ends up having a shit season, that won't mean Belotti won't score another 25-30 goals for them. Di Natale was doing something similar for Udinese constantly, even if the rest of his team was shit and they didn't make much headway into European spots. Pragmatism is what you choose to make of the situation. If Cairo, as deluded as he is, expects Belotti to perform even better than this year in 2017-18, whats to say that he won't bet on Belotti's valuation going up tenfold and hencee keeping him in Torino at all costs?

And regardless of Torino not being as big as United, they aren't exactly strapped for cash either. Even a minor dip in his valuation when they sell him next year won't be a major loss to them.

I want Belotti here too mate, but I wouldn't dare to be as optimistic as you are about dealing with Cairo. Simply because it's Cairo that we're talking about...
Quote:Milan's bid for Belotti will reach €60 million + Niang and Paletta. If Cairo refuses, Milan will sign Kalinic. [via @DiMarzio]
A deal for Renato Sanchez is looking more and more likely as it's been said that Bayern are willing to sell Sanches with a Buy back clause included for the price of the transfer.
(07-19-2017, 09:23 PM)Ryo Wrote: [ -> ]I want Belotti here too mate, but I wouldn't dare to be as optimistic as you are about dealing with Cairo. Simply because it's Cairo that we're talking about...

Precisely because we are talking about Cairo, I think he'll sell. 
Remember these?

"Torino own 50 per cent of Immobile, just as much as Juventus," he told reporters.
"So, if BVB want Immobile, they have to discuss it with us as well. I have no intention of selling Immobile.
http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zone/2014/05/09/4805813/torino-president-cairo-i-dont-want-to-sell-immobile?noBetaRedirect=1


"We listened to Immobile's wishes,” Cairo told Italian publication Gazzetta dello Sport.
"It was a difficult situation as half of the player's sporting rights are owned by Juventus.
"He has received a very important offer. At Torino he earns 800,000 euros (per year) while Borussia have offered him three times that amount, plus a bonus.
"For us it was an untenable figure."
http://www.kickoff.com/news/45152/italy-striker-ciro-immobile-signs-for-dortmund


Cairo said: "It's not just Milan who are interested, but other teams too. I would like to keep him. I still need to find out what the player's intentions are."
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/1...cerci-stay




"I see Cerci with us for a long period and for me he is not for sale," he added. "Then, it will be up to him.
"Should he decide in future to take possible offers into consideration from rich and important clubs, we will surely talk.
"But for the moment, we haven't had any signals, therefore I don't take into consideration the possible sale of Cerci."
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/1...-not-leave




The last two of Cerci are a carbon copy of what he said about Belotti. If Belotti wants to leave, Cairo will oblige. Surely we will have to pay more than what was paid for Immobile and Cerci, but that's just the way things are now. 
I am not saying I am 100% sure he will sell. I may be wrong. But I am not sure why people are saying "this is Cairo we are talking about" in order to say that he won't sell. He has sold in the past, and he will sell again. There is a clear pattern there...
Here it is....all this stuff within 30 days:


‘I’ve not had any contact from anyone,’ Cairo told Sky Sports Italia. ‘Not from PSG, Manchester United or AC Milan.
‘He’s under contract until 2021 and that means he has to stick with us.
‘I care about Belotti and I’m keeping hold of him.
Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2017/06/20/torino-pre...z4nJjitB5c


"He has a contract with Torino until 2021. I would only sell him for €100m [£88m], but even then he can refuse.
"The most important thing is what he wants, regardless of the release clause, and I believe he wants to stay.

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/815835/Manchester-United-Andrea-Belotti-Urbano-Cairo-Torino-Transfer-News-Gossip


"I do not think it's possible a transfer to Italy - he added - Cairo. But the will of the player is crucial."
http://www.sportstadio.it/articoli/calciomercato/news/urbano-cairo-passa-la-palla-ad-andrea-belotti/1100869/
I said Donnarumma would stay now let me see if I can make it 2-0

Belotti will become a Milan player
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