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(07-25-2017, 11:51 PM)porcho Wrote: [ -> ]You clearly haven't watched him play... The problem was he hasn't been used correctly... And you clearly don't count Portuguese football as top flight... Nor Champions league or playing for Portugal... What's top flight football for you then? 
Luckily for us... Inter, despite having a top side on paper, are run by muppets. This year they will be extremely dangerous... Spaletti is a top coach and if he can get all his players playing together and playing close to their peak, then Juve might have some real competition on their hands...

Realistically, we've signed some great players and some great potential. Even if you add in an Auba, and Sanches plus someone like Kjaer... we've still got a lot of work to do to reach the top. We've got a very strong squad at the moment but it will take time to gel... We'll do well this year and, as the club has reiterated, the aim is CL... After 12 months of working together with some of the younger players having progressed a little more, then I would say we could probably fight for a scudetto next season...

I was mainly referring to Gabigol whom they massively overpaid 30 million and barely used last season and now they are probably going to loan him out. Yes Joao Mario was good at Euro but do you think he's worth 45 million?? 

They do have a very good squad maybe on par with us but saying that our squad is mediocre to their is nothing but stupidity. The only thing which their squad is ahead would be in attack midfield is on par with ours and we have a superior defence.

And I am not saying that we are going to be scudetto contenders next season even if Aubemeyang any other top striker comes. Juventus is one of the best teams in Europe and 
and have been dominating serie a for quiet a long time and it's going to be very difficult to dethrone them. But If any top striker comes we can definitely finish top 3.
(07-26-2017, 05:58 AM)Milan369 Wrote: [ -> ]I was mainly referring to Gabigol whom they massively overpaid 30 million and barely used last season and now they are probably going to loan him out. Yes Joao Mario was good at Euro but do you think he's worth 45 million?? 

They do have a very good squad maybe on par with us but saying that our squad is mediocre to their is nothing but stupidity. The only thing which their squad is ahead would be in attack midfield is on par with ours and we have a superior defence.

And I am not saying that we are going to be scudetto contenders next season even if Aubemeyang any other top striker comes. Juventus is one of the best teams in Europe and 
and have been dominating serie a for quiet a long time and it's going to be very difficult to dethrone them. But If any top striker comes we can definitely finish top 3.

He was bought before the Euro, His value came from what he had showed previously. Come on, if Perisic is getting interest at 50mill we're really going to question a proven dangerous creative midfielder's value at 45mill. The fact that he went to Inter doesn't mean they where the only team interested... There where quite a few EPL teams playing around trying to push down the price to 40 and Inter swooped in and paid the 45 Sporting where happy with... Just so you know... his release clause was 60mill...

Again... being realistic... individual midfielders they probably win by a hair... individual attackers they win... central defence we win... wing backs we destroy them... They have better depth then we do... Their issue is the fact that they are a mess management wise... as I said previously they'll be very dangerous under Spaletti.

I never said that our squad was mediocre... We've got a great squad, but a lot of new players... 
(07-25-2017, 11:51 PM)porcho Wrote: [ -> ]We've got a very strong squad at the moment but it will take time to gel... We'll do well this year and, as the club has reiterated, the aim is CL... After 12 months of working together with some of the younger players having progressed a little more, then I would say we could probably fight for a scudetto next season...

again... The aim is CL... And I think that's definitely achievable... Just saying we need to be realistic... we'll likely lose significantly less points post xmas vs pre xmas
(07-25-2017, 11:27 PM)AC_Troy Wrote: [ -> ]If you look at it from a money standpoint, Belotti is stupid for not pushing to leave.  He could go to Milan and triple his salary.  I know money isn't everything but as an athlete you should make as much as you can while you can
How about Dollarumma hahaha
(07-26-2017, 07:16 AM)ZvonimirBoban Wrote: [ -> ]How about Dollarumma hahaha

true there! 

I don't blame Belotti for not forcing a move... I don't want players like that... Conti was different... he forced the move because Atalanta promised him he could go this season to a big club then changed their mind...
That being said, if Belotti genuinely loved the club and really wanted to come(as some have suggested) he would have asked to transfer and Cairo would then be willing to negotiate a sale... Cairo is being an ass because he knows he holds the power... players under contract, wants to stay, he'll ask for however much he wants...
What if belotti doesnt want to force a move unless he's sure he can do his job one more season and not just a one season wonder?
Seeing so many failed wonderkids (not that belotti is a wonderkid) who did a great 1 season, and then failed miserably after moving to a big club.
(07-25-2017, 11:27 PM)AC_Troy Wrote: [ -> ]If you look at it from a money standpoint, Belotti is stupid for not pushing to leave.  He could go to Milan and triple his salary.  I know money isn't everything but as an athlete you should make as much as you can while you can

Isn't he currently in talks with Cairo to triple his salary in Torino?  Sagrin
(07-26-2017, 10:06 AM)Ryo Wrote: [ -> ]Isn't he currently in talks with Cairo to triple his salary in Torino?  Sagrin

There were reports suggesting that Cairo offered him 3 mil if he stays, so in this regards Belotti is well covered. 

Truth be told, from a rational/business point of view, no way on earth would Cairo refuse 60+Niang +Paleta, both players favored by Mihajlovic. I honestly think this was a bullshit story all the way. I think we have offered max 45 mil which is fair offer today, but Cairo feels that after the world cup next year he will be in a position to ask and get 70+ mil and have Belotti for one more season. 

After the meeting between Belotti and Cairo, there were reports saying that Belotti will not force a move, but his wish is to be sold under the right amount. I`m 100% sure that Belotti will make the switch to Milan in a heartbeat, and if we had offer for real  60 mil+Niang +Paleta, there is no way in hell that Belotti would not consider this a fair offer and confront Cairo regarding this.
you guys mention Donnarumma but look at the contract he got.. 6m/yr @ 18 y/o.. and he'll make more in the future when he leaves Milan
(07-26-2017, 06:11 AM)porcho Wrote: [ -> ]He was bought before the Euro, His value came from what he had showed previously. Come on, if Perisic is getting interest at 50mill we're really going to question a proven dangerous creative midfielder's value at 45mill. The fact that he went to Inter doesn't mean they where the only team interested... There where quite a few EPL teams playing around trying to push down the price to 40 and Inter swooped in and paid the 45 Sporting where happy with... Just so you know... his release clause was 60mill...

Again... being realistic... individual midfielders they probably win by a hair... individual attackers they win... central defence we win... wing backs we destroy them... They have better depth then we do... Their issue is the fact that they are a mess management wise... as I said previously they'll be very dangerous under Spaletti.

I never said that our squad was mediocre... We've got a great squad, but a lot of new players... 

again... The aim is CL... And I think that's definitely achievable... Just saying we need to be realistic... we'll likely lose significantly less points post xmas vs pre xmas

Really curious with the bold part?

Not to be disrespectful, but do you like Inter? Or are you from Portugal? You made it like he was so fucking good!  Blush
Taken from other forum:

Renato Sanches is close to joining Milan for a figure in the vicinity of €40m. The player should sign a four-year contract [L'Equipe].

So, from Loan with option to buy and obligation to buy, we will buy him straight?

I read it on transfermarkt, transfer fee was 35 mil euros when he left for Bayern. I also read there was bonuses which could be insane of money, which means he was valued by Bayern more than 35 mil euros but later not in that time (since the rest of 35 mil euros are bonuses).
Sanchez did not get many games last season and I heard that he didn't do well with Bayern, how come the price raises?

I know it is only a rumour but 40 mil euros seems too much. Some mil euros (I heard it around 7 mil euros for two seasons) for only the loan and 40 mil euros for the transfer fee if we chose to buy him is a very good deal IMO, it gives more guarantee for us.

EDIT:

Found this videon on youtube. I am not that impressed since there is not offensive skill like dribbling and so (also no scoring) but it seems he has something in his strength even though he is not that big and especially his passing. Watching Chelsea vs Bayern last night and he did not bad, still his plus is passing. He always stayed in the middle, making accurate passes. 

Someone who watch him regularly should give his review about Sanches.



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