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Bacca near Villarreal
Cutrone near Crotone

For sure we can't play only whit Silva,Borini and Niang ,if true we buy 2 striker.
(08-14-2017, 05:40 PM)Jay Crisp Wrote: [ -> ]You explained nothing.You simply described what you think.Youre take on the situation...its not an explanation as to why hes not making his intention to leave known.Its just conjecture on your part.If he actually wanted to move from Torino and wanted Milan he'd say it.You seem to not understand either that you dont have to do it publicly and in the press.He can go to Cairo and say I think its time for MY next step in MY career.But he has not.Saying that to Cairo does not make him unprofessional, infact its the exact opposite.It shows hes a man that knows what he wants and deserves and goes about making others known in the propper manner.

Man we can talk about it all day,but i can assure you that Belotti wants to come to Milan but it will not force or make video like Aubameyang.
Is can make video or talk in conference and say i want go to Milan it would not change anything whit Cairo, it would worsen the situation.
If Milan want buy Belotti need to present offer 75M + Niang and Paletta.
(08-14-2017, 09:36 PM)PassiamoAlleCoseFormali Wrote: [ -> ]Bacca near Villarreal
Cutrone near Crotone

For sure we can't play only whit Silva,Borini and Niang ,if true we buy 2 striker.

It was already stated several times in the last two months that bringing in a striker like Kalinic would not impede the purchase of a Top-Class Marquee striker. It was also stated that we wanted to get rid of Bacca. Even if Crutrone stays, I expect that we would have still gotten 2 strikers.
We're playing in an extra competition, which could potentially give the entire squad 18 or 19 more matches to play throughout the season. To have reliable quality and consistency in attack, an extra experienced attacker is definitely a must.

@PassiamoAlleCoseFormali

Fact of the matter is, unless Belotti indicates somehow that he wishes to join Milan, Milan have no leeway for negotiation with Cairo to bring him to the San Siro. You can say all you want, but it's pretty obvious by all the moves that our management have made so far that our Club don't agree with Cairo's valuation of Belotti. The lad may think himself worth 100M, but if he really does want to come to Milan, he should understand that his own valuation does not match the valuation Milan have for him.

If we have learned anything this mercato, it is that our management hardly budge from their valuations of their players. If we've already made bids of max 40M + 2 players for him, that is because that is what Milan's management believe him to be worth. If we do not agree with Cairo's valuation, we will simply not buy him. So far the only reports of a 75M + players bid was in the papers, and even that is speculative.

If it is known that a player wishes to leave a club, the buyer will be negotiating from a relative position of strength, because the seller already knows that his player no longer wishes to play for him. This is even more true if the player indicates he only wants to go to one club, or if only one club is the only viable option for that player (like Bonucci was). That means in order to make the most of the situation, the seller would be willing to negotiate for a lower fee so that he can recoup what he can from the sales.

It's all a matter of demand and supply. If there is more demand, value will go up (because of a bidding war), and if there is only one demand for one supply, then both parties will have to meet in the middle for a transaction to go through. If Belotti would make it known to Cairo that he wants to leave, then Cairo would either block the sale completely or sit down to compromise a viable transfer fee. But because he is not doing so, and because Milan will not be willing to pay more than what they value Belotti to be (which I repeat is NOT what Cairo or perhaps even Belotti himself believe his value is), then no sale will ever happen and Belotti will stay in Torino. It's simple as that.

Cairo's thoughts may well be the same as yours, but if Milan do not agree with that valuation, no sale will go through. It's a no brainer.
Milan will not be forced to pay over what they believe a players value is.
(08-14-2017, 05:03 PM)WCmilan Wrote: [ -> ]I just do not understand this mercato anymore if things turn out this way.

We've been playing with a 4-3-3 the entire pre-season and in EL qualifying.
If we're buying Kalinic (some reports say it's pretty much done), then surely our top signing must be a winger? What would be the point of having three strikers (all expensive) for one position? The other option obviously is that we're going to be switching to a two striker formation, but if that's the case then why haven't we been doing it?

It would be pretty late to start implementing a new formation, the entire dynamic changes when you play with two strikers even though it looks like a simple switch.

yeah i was thinking exactly the same thing. fassone recently said we're looking to sign a striker and a winger. given we've been playing 4-3-3 so far signing another winger to compliment suso makes sense. other reports say if we sign kalinic we'll still sign a top striker or dolberg too. but given we've been playing 4-3-3 only one of andre silva/kalinic/dolberg could play at a time.

the other solution is to play 2 strikers up front but where would that leave suso? also we don't have enough cbs to play 3 given how injury prone musacchio/romagnoli are.

personally i think kalinic is a smokescreen for a winger (keita?) and we'll end the mercato with a top striker. signing kalinic would in no way raise our brand value.
(08-14-2017, 09:46 PM)Ryo Wrote: [ -> ]Fact of the matter is, unless Belotti indicates somehow that he wishes to join Milan, Milan have no leeway for negotiation with Cairo to bring him to the San Siro. You can say all you want, but it's pretty obvious by all the moves that our management have made so far that our Club don't agree with Cairo's valuation of Belotti. The lad may think himself worth 100M, but if he really does want to come to Milan, he should understand that his own valuation does not match the valuation Milan have for him.

If we have learned anything this mercato, it is that our management hardly budge from their valuations of their players. If we've already made bids of max 40M + 2 players for him, that is because that is what Milan's management believe him to be worth. If we do not agree with Cairo's valuation, we will simply not buy him. So far the only reports of a 75M + players bid was in the papers, and even that is speculative.

If it is known that a player wishes to leave a club, the buyer will be negotiating from a relative position of strength, because the seller already knows that his player no longer wishes to play for him. This is even more true if the player indicates he only wants to go to one club, or if only one club is the only viable option for that player (like Bonucci was). That means in order to make the most of the situation, the seller would be willing to negotiate for a lower fee so that he can recoup what he can from the sales.

It's all a matter of demand and supply. If there is more demand, value will go up (because of a bidding war), and if there is only one demand for one supply, then both parties will have to meet in the middle for a transaction to go through. If Belotti would make it known to Cairo that he wants to leave, then Cairo would either block the sale completely or sit down to compromise a viable transfer fee. But because he is not doing so, and because Milan will not be willing to pay more than what they value Belotti to be (which I repeat is NOT what Cairo or perhaps even Belotti himself believe his value is), then no sale will ever happen and Belotti will stay in Torino. It's simple as that.

Cairo's thoughts may well be the same as yours, but if Milan do not agree with that valuation, no sale will go through. It's a no brainer.
Milan will not be forced to pay over what they believe a players value is.

I approve and share everything you've written but i stay with my idea Belotti want to came to Milan but at the same time does not want to be left in a bad way by Torino , is like Maradona for Torino fans ..remember this guys have a rescissor clause, valid only for overseas, of 100M and a contract of 1.2 million for years.
I can tell you a lot about him for exemple is stop talk in all social is not presented at new season's official jersey , is not talk at the inauguration of the team at Bormio when all their fans asked for this etc etc 
Cairo in real he wants to sell it because he knows If next year does not repeat an exceptional season its value dropped drastically , he also needs money because many of his newspapers sell a few copies and need money because is make new stadium filadelfia.
Man let's talk clear for him and same for Aubameyang we need money if you have the right offer you will buy otherwise no.
Sell Bacca and on loan Cutrone and buy only Kalinic It would be a disaster.
There are reports now that we will indeed sign two strikers. Kalinic (who seems to be a done deal at this point) and a big name. Probably Aubameyang then?
(08-14-2017, 10:41 PM)devoted_dm Wrote: [ -> ]There are reports now that we will indeed sign two strikers. Kalinic (who seems to be a done deal at this point) and a big name. Probably Aubameyang then?

Big question man , but I do not think it will take a long time to find out .. Even if we buy two strikers

From germany: Borussia Dortmund props Giroud. The French likes the destination
with bacca practically gone (good player) the following shit player must gtfo...

1. paletta
2. mauri
3. sosa
4. NIANG
5. gabriel
6. simic
7. vergara (LOL)

and the cherry on top would be fodtolivo.
Quote:Aside from working on Kalinic, the extra budget should provide another signing in the attack and probably not only. [@AlfredoPedulla]
Sky: the BVB is interested in Schick while news from France reports that the same German club is on the tracks of Giroud.
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