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(08-16-2017, 05:09 PM)Milan369 Wrote: [ -> ]I am not sure about that. The management have openly said that it's either Kalinic/Costa/Auba. And also said that we are after a winger/mid/striker. And they Haven't said anything about getting 2 strikers except for few newspapers. So Kalinic would be the only striker incoming as of now. Then who would be the other proper striker incoming? Costa wants to join Atletico so that rules him out. Auba? He said he's happy to stay at Dortmund and with the Dembele saga going on I doubt they would sell him. Belotti? Maybe a small chance but who knows.

At this point Belotti will not come for sure... Kalinic,Silva and Cutrone are similar player.
Leaves a hope for Auba especially if Kalinic does not take the shirt with number 7.
Excellent stuff Hitman

nefremo, he hasn't been promised Rogaine yet
Kalinic is a good signing. Fans are understandably disappointed coz we alle xpected a big name. But this is a very underrated player who I think can score 15+ goals a season if you give him the service. Most of all he plays for the team and he really wants to be at Milan. this could potentially be a very good signing.

I still think however, that a top forward will still come plus other players. The management had said earlier this month that they will calm down and reconsider prioritites till 15th of august. This is exactly what they did. Right away, they are signing Kalinic. I am sure they have other plans going on. this is a free market campaign for us (viz a viz FFP) so I don't think that Fassobelli will waste it.

In any case, even if they do not sign a single new player, this is still a 10/10 market for us.
If we're playing with two strikers, we need Kalinic as a back-up, there's no way Silva and Kalinic are enough + Cutrone is apparently going to be loaned out to Crotone.

If we play a 4-3-3, we still need a left winger.

Hence, a top signing will arrive 10000%
(08-16-2017, 05:29 PM)Hitman Wrote: [ -> ]that's jay_crisp for you.. i've seen his posts around forums for more than 10 years. It's just what he does. Vast majority of what he posts makes me cringe my teeth. you'll be better off by ignoring him.  Okmilan

I havent been on any forum for 10 years let alone more.But you lie its what you do ,youre a serial liar.Its why you get repeatedly banned from everywhere.Lying and starting or attempting to start arguments.
Every Milan place ive seen you pop up you get banned from.Yet you still dont realise its you and not the forums or pages.
I knew as soon as your name came up here youd be trying to go for personal attacks on members and you did.Whatever makes you feel better.You took what about half a day here to start making personal remarks to members here.
(08-16-2017, 05:29 PM)Hitman Wrote: [ -> ]Football is not about statistics, this is not an American sport. Galliani signing Bacca + Adriano + Bertolacci was him signing players solely based on their statistics and completely ignored their style of play and how they fit in. Adriano was top scorer in Ukranian league for like 5 consecutive seasons, Bacca scored 20+ goals for 5 consecutive seasons, Bertolacci has 8g 8a at Genoa when we signed him. Signing those players would guarantee goals based on your logic of looking at statistics right? Well guess what.. Over the WHOLE season, Milan scored something like 50 goals. One of our lowest scoring seasons in a very very long time. Statistics are important to help you analyze situations but they aren't everything. We must sign players who compliment each other and that's what we've been doing. Suso + Kessie + Conti on the right is going to be a joy to watch. Biglia with Bonucci behind him will be interesting. Hakan + RR as well.

Mirabelli is the total opposite and actually seeks real good players based on style and that way you'll sign players before they get those great statistics. Besides, Ibra at Milan scored like ~15 goals but Bacca scored 20 in his first season, does it mean Bacca was better than Ibra for us? Hell no. Because Ibra lifts the level of players all around him due to his playing style. Bacca needs players to be excellent for him to play well - that's exactly the type of striker we don't need. I feel confident with Mirabelli because he was crazy after players like Kessie, Keita, Conti from a long time and they exploded this season, that's a very telling fact that Mirabelli seeks the right qualities in players.

Kalinic can do so much more with the ball than Bacca can. He holds the ball up well, runs a lot, defends, assists. Kalinic is clearly a replacement for Bacca, it's not a coincidence that we are closing the Kalinic deal the same day we sold Bacca officially. It was just like how closed Borini the same day we sold Lapadula. Mirabelli is carefully planning the squad and doesn't want an oversized squad. I hate that Bacca has gone only on loan+option but if he's bought that'd be 17m, and if Kalinic comes for 25m, we'd have invested Bacca + 8m in him which isn't that bad to upgrade our squad. Yeah he's 30, yeah his wages are 3m but the term expensive is a very relative term especially in football. PSG signed Neymar for 222m and want to make more signings for 100m now, that would've been ridiculous expensive for Berlu + Galliani, but this Milan is a very different Milan from the past. We're on track to spend around 300m this summer alone if we spend another 60m on players and I'm certain a top top top level player is coming because that's Fassone has said on a number of occasions. 

Kalinic is a very complimentary player and plays for the team, just like what Montella said. I don't think he's one of our better signings but he's very useful. I think I saw a stat that last year Kalinic won his team 18 points just with the goals he scored towards the end of the game (and his team wins with a single goal - his goal). That's a sign of strong character and mental strength, and that's what we badly need and that's what we can't find in youngsters like Andre Silva at this ripe age. He's also Serie A proven, speaks the language and can do so much more than Bacca/Adriano did.

I honestly wouldn't be that disappointed if we didn't sign a top CF. I'd rather sign a top class LW & a midfielder. I'm certain Milan has someone lined up already.

i agree with what you're saying about stats but i was comparing bacca vs kalinic only (nobody else) purely based on montella's system. montella said bacca doesn't fit his system yet he scored virtually the same number of goals as kalinic last season whilst playing in an inferior squad. its not incorrect to say he would've only scored more this season with better teammates (something even his agent mentioned).

although kalinic might perform slightly better than bacca in montella's system, based on the above i don't think it'll be that significant. anyway, my issue is not so much with kalinic but the price paid and contract offered considering his age.

btw my issue isn't with mirabelli at all. if you've followed my posts, i think he's done an almost perfect job this mercato in terms of ingoings and outgoings. he's bought everybody at a fair price or below market value (e.g. musacchio, rodriguez, biglia, hakan, bonucci). the only time he potentially overpaid was for silva but in time that may turn out to be a steal too. therefore, i'm surprised mirabelli is willing to pay 25m for a 30yo especially given the excellent business he did with juve and lazio.

i honestly believe montella strongly wanted the player and mirabelli was almost obliged to satisfy his one major request.

but i agree everybody should hold their horses and give f+m the benefit of the doubt until sep 1. they deserve that. personally, i believe we'll sign another top striker and adopt a 2 striker system. then signing kalinic would make sense although suso's future would be in doubt and we'd need to sign more cbs to play 3 at the back.
paletta, gomez, niang and sosa all left out of tomorrow's squad. hopefully they'll be sold by the second leg so montella won't have to drop them again!
guaranteed income

vido 1m
kucka 5m
de sciglio 12m
vangioni 2m
ely 3m
crociata 0.5m
lapadula 13m
zigoni 0.4m
bacca 2.5m

total 39.4m (excludes undisclosed fees)
(08-16-2017, 06:54 PM)donlocatelli Wrote: [ -> ]guaranteed income

vido 1m
kucka 5m
de sciglio 12m
vangioni 2m
ely 3m
crociata 0.5m
lapadula 13m
zigoni 0.4m
bacca 2.5m

total 39.4m (excludes undisclosed fees)

Hopefully.Hopefully we can add €15-€18m for Niang and €3/€4m for Paletta & Sosa.
(08-16-2017, 05:09 PM)Milan369 Wrote: [ -> ]I am not sure about that. The management have openly said that it's either Kalinic/Costa/Auba. And also said that we are after a winger/mid/striker. And they Haven't said anything about getting 2 strikers except for few newspapers. So Kalinic would be the only striker incoming as of now. Then who would be the other proper striker incoming? Costa wants to join Atletico so that rules him out. Auba? He said he's happy to stay at Dortmund and with the Dembele saga going on I doubt they would sell him. Belotti? Maybe a small chance but who knows.

It could be. But ,I refuse to believe that after such a nice market board will leave us with Silva ,Kalinic ,Niang and Cutrone. Especially if Niang leaves it can't be just those three. They fixed defence perfectly ,midfield so-so...and if they end up with attack like this it would be like if you make a marvelous cake and than put a shit on top of it insted of cherry.
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