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(09-03-2019, 01:55 AM)porcho Wrote: [ -> ]New law hasn't passed yet. But they're working on it. 30% tax for foreign players or Italians that have been out of the country for over 10 years(i think it was 10).
However, if this comes into play, it will only count for new signings. Not existing ones.

I don’t think this is correct.

(09-03-2019, 05:30 AM)mazen111 Wrote: [ -> ]-------------------Piatek-------------------
---------Rebic-------- Suso---------

------------------Paqueta-----------------

Bona------------------------biglia------

You should coach


(09-04-2019, 09:48 AM)jcela2000@gmail.com Wrote: [ -> ]
(4312)           PIATEK------SUSO                          (4321)                PIATEK                              (433)    Rebic---Piatek---Suso     
                            REBIC                                                      REBIC---SUSO                                   Paqueta--Bennacer--Kessie
         PAQUETA----BENNACER----KESSIE                     PAQUETA--BENNACER--KESSIE                   Theo                                Calabria
    THEO-ROMAGNOLI-MUSSACHIO-CALABRIA         THEO-ROMAGNOLI-MUSSACHIO-CALABRIA             Romagnoli--Mussachio
                           GIGIO                                                               GIGIO                                                      Gigio
                                                     (My preferred starters)
      This will probably be our formations this season as seen from the two previous games. Concerning the starting 11... Imo players such as Borini Samu Hakan RicRod Biglia should not be our main starters, but considering how RicRod Hakan Borini and Biglia are more experienced and play safer(defensive) I can see them getting more minutes than deserved as an attempt to create stability in the team. Therefor throughout the season we might see Biglia Hakan and RR starting quite often while Borini getting substitute minutes(which he shouldn't if we truly want to develop our talents). Cant blame Giampaolo for this as he is a more system orientated coach and he prefers older players who follow the instructions strictly regardless of skill level (Paqueta, Theo).   
      What I hope to see before the new year is a fluid team that plays similar to our preseason game with Benfica. Comfortable possession based game. I'm hoping Leao can break into the starters be it by taking Suso's advanced position or by replacing Piatek for some games, for now his speed makes him a good impact sub. I'm also hoping that Giampaolo takes risks and starts the new signings. I hope to see Rebic start from the first day and I'm praying to never see Borini and Samu start again.
      I have no expectations on Bonaventura, Caldara, Conti, and Krunic but it would be a pleasant surprise if this players broke through as they have to potential to do so.
      The biggest challenge this season will be a new coach with a new system trying to stabilize a very very young team. The market could of brought an established midfielder and by the looks of the past two games we could use reinforcement on the right back position. Other than that the market was lovely.
      First post on the forum, sorry if too lengthy. I could write a whole 20 paged detailed analysis on how 'out of form' Hakan is and how he should only play in advanced positions and how he is very overrated by the coaches and some Milan fans but I rather not. Very excited for the season, we got a lot of potential and could see something beautiful blossom. It's just going to require patience and time but by the words of our godlike leader Maldini "it's a long term project".

Good 1st post. Welcome!  Okmilan

I'd add.....if we can get away with it defensively, I would rather repalce Kessie with someone else in the starting line up. Hell, at this point, I'd rather see Borini there then Kessie.
Welcome to MM jcela2000. Based on what we have I think christmas tree likely is best. Depending on how and if Leao can find his to the team 4-3-1-2 can be done too.
Suso has a long term contract with us and I wonder how long coaches will keep appreciating him.
4-3-3 has failed imo, not just at Milan. The teams that do continue use it either have many world class players or just make it work with versatile players and great coaches. It is not for weaker teams who despite being weak face teams that park the bus or load the midfield.
(09-04-2019, 04:20 PM)nefremo Wrote: [ -> ]Good 1st post. Welcome!  Okmilan

I'd add.....if we can get away with it defensively, I would rather repalce Kessie with someone else in the starting line up. Hell, at this point, I'd rather see Borini there then Kessie.

Thanks brother. Kessie is raw going forward and far from a complete midfielder, but he does offer an immense physique and defensive presence in the midfield. Last year when he didnt start we played fragmented and less imposing, and part of that is bc he's been a regular starter for the past two seasons. He offers stability and has room for development so I dont mind him starting. As far as replacing him goes, I can see Giampaolo playing Bennacer in his position and playing Biglia in the hole. But I prefer Kessie starting since he is younger while Biglia is very washed. The other option I see is Krunic but he's a question at the moment and the coach doesnt seem confident in him.
I can totally see Giampaolo using Biglia and Bennacer at the same time. Like you said, Biglia in front of the defense and Bennacer in Kessie's spot.

We've all been very critical of Biglia, and rightfully so imo. But in the few games he played over the summer, I saw a different player under Giampaolo. One that was no longer aftaid to play vertical passes. Of course, it's pre-season and nothing really matters if you can't do it in a real game. But it was something. Something different from him.

Anyway, I am so done with Kessie's (shit) performances that I'd gladly accept this option for a few games and see how it works. Putting Bennacer there is probably the only option we have (in replacing Kessie) without unbalancing the midfield. Anyone else there instead (Bonna, Krunic, Hakan, Paq), and we risk unbalancing the midfield.
(09-04-2019, 06:17 PM)reza Wrote: [ -> ]Welcome to MM jcela2000. Based on what we have I think christmas tree likely is best. Depending on how and if Leao can find his to the team 4-3-1-2 can be done too.
Suso has a long term contract with us and I wonder how long coaches will keep appreciating him.
4-3-3 has failed imo, not just at Milan. The teams that do continue use it either have many world class players or just make it work with versatile players and great coaches. It is not for weaker teams who despite being weak face teams that park the bus or load the midfield.

Christmas tree is most likely, but if we establish a dominant cam/trequartista from our players(Suso,Rebic,Hakan,or Paq) I can see us going to a 4312 with Piatek and Rebic/Leao/Suso up top. 433 is always going to be our safe fall formation as the team is most comfortable with it and it has been the most stable fromation for us. Honestly it could work depending on how reliable Rebic is on the left side. 433 is a great formation when you have pace to abuse the flanks, thats why Real Madrid Liverpool ManCity do so good with it. What we lacked in our 433 is pace and a reliable left side threat, if Rebic can be that then I can see us reverting to a 433. 
Suso is a great player in some aspects but he is not a great allround player. He'll shine in a controlled environment but is not flexible to dominate the whole attacking area. He has a great pass and shot AS long as he is on the deep right side and gets a great feed from his teammates, he cant directly attack the mid and he is akward on his weak foot. He can dribble but only as long as he has defenders to worry about from his left/forward/back side and the stands on his right side. Overall I think he is usable but if we truly want to increase our level we need more complete players that have pace, dont need all the ball feed, little more physique and can track back as well. But still he is an asset if used right.
(09-04-2019, 07:38 PM)nefremo Wrote: [ -> ]I can totally see Giampaolo using Biglia and Bennacer at the same time. Like you said, Biglia in front of the defense and Bennacer in Kessie's spot.

We've all been very critical of Biglia, and rightfully so imo. But in the few games he played over the summer, I saw a different player under Giampaolo. One that was no longer aftaid to play vertical passes. Of course, it's pre-season and nothing really matters if you can't do it in a real game. But it was something. Something different from him.

Anyway, I am so done with Kessie's (shit) performances that I'd gladly accept this option for a few games and see how it works. Putting Bennacer there is probably the only option we have (in replacing Kessie) without unbalancing the midfield. Anyone else there instead (Bonna, Krunic, Hakan, Paq), and we risk unbalancing the midfield.

I consider myself a romantic so for now I rather trust our youth, and there were rumors that Biglia is on his way out so I rather not invest in him and Borini either. But come winter/summer a midfielder and a rightback are due an overview.
(09-04-2019, 08:07 PM)jcela2000@gmail.com Wrote: [ -> ]I consider myself a romantic so for now I rather trust our youth, and there were rumors that Biglia is on his way out so I rather not invest in him and Borini either. But come winter/summer a midfielder and a rightback are due an overview.

Depending on the type of romantic you are.  Sagrin Galliani was the type of romantic that would have rather trusted older players.   Grinundwech

But on a more serious note, I don't necessarily disagree. I don't know if replacing Kessie at the moment is the answer. But, another couple of games from him like the one against Brescia, and I really don't see how he stays in the line up. The dude killed almost every attack once the ball went to him. And it's not as if it's some kind of early season thing. It's actually just a continuation of the last 2 years. Zero hint of improvement.

Anyway, can't we find another Bennacer for 16mil?  Sagrin 

And yes, depending on how Calabria/Conti work out, RB might be a position we need to upgrade. I was actually really hoping for a Conti loan out and Aurier loan in, but it wasn't to be.
(09-04-2019, 09:48 AM)jcela2000@gmail.com Wrote: [ -> ]
(4312)           PIATEK------SUSO                          (4321)                PIATEK                              (433)    Rebic---Piatek---Suso     
                            REBIC                                                      REBIC---SUSO                                   Paqueta--Bennacer--Kessie
         PAQUETA----BENNACER----KESSIE                     PAQUETA--BENNACER--KESSIE                   Theo                                Calabria
    THEO-ROMAGNOLI-MUSSACHIO-CALABRIA         THEO-ROMAGNOLI-MUSSACHIO-CALABRIA             Romagnoli--Mussachio
                           GIGIO                                                               GIGIO                                                      Gigio
                                                     (My preferred starters)
      This will probably be our formations this season as seen from the two previous games. Concerning the starting 11... Imo players such as Borini Samu Hakan RicRod Biglia should not be our main starters, but considering how RicRod Hakan Borini and Biglia are more experienced and play safer(defensive) I can see them getting more minutes than deserved as an attempt to create stability in the team. Therefor throughout the season we might see Biglia Hakan and RR starting quite often while Borini getting substitute minutes(which he shouldn't if we truly want to develop our talents). Cant blame Giampaolo for this as he is a more system orientated coach and he prefers older players who follow the instructions strictly regardless of skill level (Paqueta, Theo).   
      What I hope to see before the new year is a fluid team that plays similar to our preseason game with Benfica. Comfortable possession based game. I'm hoping Leao can break into the starters be it by taking Suso's advanced position or by replacing Piatek for some games, for now his speed makes him a good impact sub. I'm also hoping that Giampaolo takes risks and starts the new signings. I hope to see Rebic start from the first day and I'm praying to never see Borini and Samu start again.
      I have no expectations on Bonaventura, Caldara, Conti, and Krunic but it would be a pleasant surprise if this players broke through as they have to potential to do so.
      The biggest challenge this season will be a new coach with a new system trying to stabilize a very very young team. The market could of brought an established midfielder and by the looks of the past two games we could use reinforcement on the right back position. Other than that the market was lovely.
      First post on the forum, sorry if too lengthy. I could write a whole 20 paged detailed analysis on how 'out of form' Hakan is and how he should only play in advanced positions and how he is very overrated by the coaches and some Milan fans but I rather not. Very excited for the season, we got a lot of potential and could see something beautiful blossom. It's just going to require patience and time but by the words of our godlike leader Maldini "it's a long term project".

Welcome mate. Great first post.

(09-04-2019, 03:56 PM)reza Wrote: [ -> ]


Thanks Reza. My info came from Italians before the law was passed. So part of it changed. But I also wrote it up wrong.

Interesting to add that I was told the deal was originally 50% for North and 70% for South until a certain President of a Ladri club used his influence to change it to 50% across the board.

(09-04-2019, 07:38 PM)nefremo Wrote: [ -> ]I can totally see Giampaolo using Biglia and Bennacer at the same time. Like you said, Biglia in front of the defense and Bennacer in Kessie's spot.

We've all been very critical of Biglia, and rightfully so imo. But in the few games he played over the summer, I saw a different player under Giampaolo. One that was no longer aftaid to play vertical passes. Of course, it's pre-season and nothing really matters if you can't do it in a real game. But it was something. Something different from him.

Anyway, I am so done with Kessie's (shit) performances that I'd gladly accept this option for a few games and see how it works. Putting Bennacer there is probably the only option we have (in replacing Kessie) without unbalancing the midfield. Anyone else there instead (Bonna, Krunic, Hakan, Paq), and we risk unbalancing the midfield.

It'll be interesting. He was definitely miles better the few games we've played so far this season, but there was a lot of talk he'd be leaving anyway.

At this rate I would put anyone instead of Kessie.

(09-04-2019, 08:16 PM)nefremo Wrote: [ -> ]Depending on the type of romantic you are.  Sagrin Galliani was the type of romantic that would have rather trusted older players.   Grinundwech

But on a more serious note, I don't necessarily disagree. I don't know if replacing Kessie at the moment is the answer. But, another couple of games from him like the one against Brescia, and I really don't see how he stays in the line up. The dude killed almost every attack once the ball went to him. And it's not as if it's some kond of early season thing. It's just a continuation of the last 2 years. Zero hint of improvement.

Anyway, can't we find another Bennacer for 16mil?  Sagrin 

And yes, depending on how Calabria/Conti work out, RB might be a position we need to upgrade. I was actually really hoping for a Conti loan out and Aurier loan in, but it wasn't to be.

I'm really not a Kessie Fan. I was hoping we would find a buyer this mercato but sadly wasn't to be.

I'm really hoping Conti comes good. We need him to get back to his best and we Need a top form Jack back.
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