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RE: Summer transfer window 2017 - porcho - 05-18-2017

Papu would be good, as for Morata, not interested upless he's coming for 30-35 which I highly doubt. would rather get Lacazette, He can actually score goals


RE: Summer transfer window 2017 - Arildonardo - 05-18-2017

According to Don Balon in Spain we want Luka Modric.

http://www.donbalon.com/noticia/detalle/52222/el-milan-elige-a-una-estrella-del-real-madrid-para-construir-su-nuevo-proyecto


RE: Summer transfer window 2017 - nefremo - 05-18-2017

Guus, what's this thing about Morata not being able to score goals?! He has scored 20 in 41 appearances this season. On first hand it doesn't look like much, especially when you play for free scoring RM, but dig in deeper and you'll see that he has scored a goal per every 93 minutes of play. That is A GOAL A GAME! Seems pretty good to me.

Morata isn't my first choice either, but it's mainly because of the price being quoted and not because he can't score goals...because to be fair, that is not true.


RE: Summer transfer window 2017 - Rimini - 05-18-2017

it looks like Bayern Monaco is about to sign Goretzka, so Kimmich will be their RB. What about a swap deal between him and De Sciglio with money? would be a good deal for both parts.

This guys really don't have a clue how to make transfers, just because their weakest link is wings, it's strange they don't think about wingers, yet keep signing midfielder after midfielder. Goretzka is strong, skilled 2 way midfielder, his contract ends in 2018, perfect time to sign him, however signing him will do more harm without fixing weak points.


RE: Summer transfer window 2017 - Rimini - 05-18-2017

(05-18-2017, 10:52 AM)Arildonardo Wrote: According to Don Balon in Spain we want Luka Modric.

http://www.donbalon.com/noticia/detalle/52222/el-milan-elige-a-una-estrella-del-real-madrid-para-construir-su-nuevo-proyecto

He would be good, yet we musn't forget he will be 32 soon. they recently renewed with him though. l'd not consider Don Balon as a serious source. since they like to create news.

Regarding striker, Lacazetta, Dembele, Aubameyang, Bellotti are all welcomed. of course with right price, l'd not pay more than 50 m euros for Morata, not more than 70 m for Belotti. regardless of the fact Cairo always got what he wanted before, we can get a discount for Belotti, considering 100 m euros is way too much.


RE: Summer transfer window 2017 - nefremo - 05-18-2017

Why do people consider Belotti to be worth more than Morata? Makes little sense to me...


RE: Summer transfer window 2017 - GeoTav - 05-18-2017

Please no Lacazette ! Nooooo !

If our goal is to get this guy, let's keep Bacca !
Lacazette is younger and better than Bacca IMO, but look into the numbers : he has scored a big part of his goals on PKs so far during his career.
He's not a game changer.
He's overated.
He will come for a lot of money as Aulas, the president of Lyon, never sells cheap.
That's too many reasons not to get this guy, unless he comes with another striker, one of the other mentionned targets.

About Belotti, I think the guy will score tons of goals during all his career. It's not about his quality with the ball in his feet, it's all about his brain and the way he moves. Look at him moving when his partners have the ball and you will understand he will have plenty chances to score when he'll be in a team with players who are able to make decent passes.

He reminds me of Cavani in PSG, always running, moving and going towards the goal.
He's probably a bit less skilled technically, but he looks clinical in front of the goal.

The dream would be Morata + Belotti or Lacazette + Belotti. Is it too much to ask ?


RE: Summer transfer window 2017 - nefremo - 05-18-2017

I've always seen Lacazette as a second striker, so the "lack" of goals isn't something that really bothers me to be honest. I am not too hung up on him, but I do think that at around 30-35mil he would be a fair deal.


RE: Summer transfer window 2017 - WCmilan - 05-18-2017

(05-18-2017, 01:02 PM)nefremo Wrote: Why do people consider Belotti to be worth more than Morata? Makes little sense to me...

Well for starters, Morata has scored only 40 goals since 2010 (not including real madrid B team) - playing at a top club like Real Madrid/Juve those figures are not the greatest. Belotti has scored 53 goals since 2013. That's 3 years less and 13 goals more, and at much lesser clubs. Belotti is also one year younger, and in a league where Morata only scored 15 goals in two entire seasons & 63 appearances, Belotti has scored 25 goals (almost double) in this season alone. Morata also has this sort of clumsy way of moving with the ball that I do not like. Belotti is stronger, faster & moves better on and off the ball. 

Those are just the material facts, there are other reasons for preferring Belotti as well.


RE: Summer transfer window 2017 - nefremo - 05-18-2017

I didn't say I prefer one over the other. I understand the facts (stats), but the facts aren't the whole story. He has never been a "central" player for ANY team he's played for. Meaning, the teams he played for never played for him like for example Torino plays for Belotti. He has never even truly been a given starter for any team he's played for, like Belotti is for Torino playing every game from the 1st to the 95th minute. Many of those performances for Morata are off the bench (last 20-30mins), and whenever he has started he is usually taken off after 50-60mins. I provided Morata's (more relevant imo) stats a few posts ago......1 goal every 88 minutes in La Liga this year. That is extraordinary, assuming that those are "chopped up" minutes and not in continuity (45 mins here, 20 minutes there, etc).

The fact that Belotti is 1 year younger is not a big deal. We are talking about ONE year, let's not make it sound like it's 5. Like I said, I don't prefer one over the other. As a matter of fact, they are both WAY overpriced. But Morata has accomplished a lot more in his career so far and has shown the continuity of being able to play at the highest level for several years now (even though yes, the # of goals is perhaps not the most impressive), whereas Belotti has had ONE, ONLY ONE, great season in his career so far. All I am saying is, before we go paying 60/70 million for a player (and that seems the VERY LEAST we can even hope for), shouldn't he at least show that he can maintain this form over a couple of season at the very least??? I just think his form this season, the fact that he plays like a lion and doesn't hold anything back (I love this by the way), the whole 100mil release clause and use of the hype machine by Cairo, the entire thing about Belotti being a huge Milan fan and Shevchenko fan....all of that is contributing to people wanting Belotti and willing to pay crazy sums for him.....but I think we need to look at this with an outside perspective and a clear head. There is NO WAY Belotti is worth anywhere near what they want for him presently.

Back to Morata, I can go on and say the same things about him too. Real bought him back for 30mil, he is not even a starter there and is now in his mid 20s (so no longer a youngster that they can argue will have an exponential growth rate), so there is no freaking way they should be able to just double that 30mil like nothing. How the hell did his value rise that much? On the bench? Screw them!

So both of them are overpriced, and believe me, as I've said multiple times already, I don't prefer one over the other. But there is no way that Belotti is worth more than Morata, and there is no way that Morata is worth 60mil imo. So you do the math as to how much each of them is fairly worth.

Anyway, this is why I prefer Aubameyang over the 2. Yes, 70mil is a lot of money.....but at least you are playing for a player that's been scoring tons of goals over the past several years now....and not just against Bundesliga opponents, but he's done it against the best clubs in the world in the CL. Big name, right time in his career.....more or less you know exactly what you are getting. Every transfer is a risk, I get that. But when you weigh in all the risks compared to what we are paying and getting....Aubameyang is surely the best deal.


Sorry for the long post by the way Big Grin