Milan vs Atalanta 15-9-12 20:45CET
LOL. nothing seems to work for us. even the referees who whistled the game with one full minute left to play.

aka xudong
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what a big joke Icon_lol2
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(09-15-2012, 09:29 PM)tom-tom Wrote:
(09-15-2012, 09:25 PM)devoted_dm Wrote: Well, this is what we get when we downsize like we did this summer. We have a very average team at the moment. Some good players, but overall we're a mid-table team.

mid-table, that's exactly what kind of team Milan is.

but the problem is, even a mid-table team would and should have got point after two home games against a newly promoted opponent, and another mid-table, right? Sagrin

this is going to be a long season. Sleepy
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(09-15-2012, 09:37 PM)LebRN Wrote: Nobody is saying that we are happy with the team we got but still this team is better than the teams of Atalanta, Samp, and Bologna and it was Allegri who failed to get the best out of what he had

This is definitely not Allegri's fault. Our problem is that the only good player we have right now is De Jong. The rest are mediocre, and in addition many of them are inexperienced, which means that we have no true leaders on the pitch and no one who can give us that extra quality or spark of genius that will win us tight games.

And we have to realize, smaller teams will defend against us and hit us on the counter. We may have better players than them, but we make ourselves vulnerable because as a big team we are expected to win regularly. That means having the majority of possession and attacking with many players. If you do that without having players who are good enough to break down tight defences, you will lose quite a few games, because you'll never be able to put your opponents under real pressure.
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(09-15-2012, 09:37 PM)LebRN Wrote:
(09-15-2012, 09:29 PM)Ryo Wrote: Agreed, we need a playmaker in the absence of Montolivo, and we don't have it.
For those calling for Allegri's head, don't be foolish. We all knew what we were coming into the season with, the players that he had at his disposal, and we all cursed at Galliani and Berlusconi for selling off the key players without replacing them adequately. If anyone is to blame for our woes, it has to be B & G, Allegri won't risk playing the new players until they've proven themselves (as we saw from Urby's first season), he will stick to his trusted players to carry out his tactics. It's not his fault that he doesn't have a player to hold the ball up front to lead the attack line, its not his fault for having just one true playmaker (who's still out injured by the way). He's only using the players as best as he can. You all complain about bad subs, but think about who we have on the bench right now, not that many options to choose from. The only issue I have is Allegri's preference for Italians. SES should have started on the bench and Bojan from the first minute.


Fucktard Galliani talks about us being competitive, prove it to us first. And what good is the downsizing when we can't even manage a top 3 finish because of it?

Nobody is saying that we are happy with the team we got but still this team is better than the teams of Atalanta, Samp, and Bologna and it was Allegri who failed to get the best out of what he had

Sooo true Lebrn.

B&G fcked up got it. Allegri is the head coach and has these players to work with. We alll agreed we werent going to be CL champs or guaranteed champions in the seria a but Im sure if we had a poll we would all agree that these first three games we should of been 3-0.


We will win games this year by luck or by players making there own chances. We will not win by a certain game plan by our coach.




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(09-15-2012, 09:49 PM)devoted_dm Wrote:
(09-15-2012, 09:37 PM)LebRN Wrote: Nobody is saying that we are happy with the team we got but still this team is better than the teams of Atalanta, Samp, and Bologna and it was Allegri who failed to get the best out of what he had

This is definitely not Allegri's fault. Our problem is that the only good player we have right now is De Jong. The rest are mediocre, and in addition many of them are inexperienced, which means that we have no true leaders on the pitch and no one who can give us that extra quality or spark of genius that will win us tight games.

And we have to realize, smaller teams will defend against us and hit us on the counter. We may have better players than them, but we make ourselves vulnerable because as a big team we are expected to win regularly. That means having the majority of possession and attacking with many players. If you do that without having players who are good enough to break down tight defences, you will lose quite a few games, because you'll never be able to put your opponents under real pressure.

I agree with that but that doesn't mean we can't keep a clean a sheet in 3 games against mediocre teams...we should at least get out with a 0-0

Then again there's the poor subs issue or starting with De Jong & Ambro at the same time or playing Bonera as our main CB ....no excuse for any of those...
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(09-15-2012, 09:49 PM)devoted_dm Wrote:
(09-15-2012, 09:37 PM)LebRN Wrote: Nobody is saying that we are happy with the team we got but still this team is better than the teams of Atalanta, Samp, and Bologna and it was Allegri who failed to get the best out of what he had

This is definitely not Allegri's fault. Our problem is that the only good player we have right now is De Jong. The rest are mediocre, and in addition many of them are inexperienced, which means that we have no true leaders on the pitch and no one who can give us that extra quality or spark of genius that will win us tight games.

And we have to realize, smaller teams will defend against us and hit us on the counter. We may have better players than them, but we make ourselves vulnerable because as a big team we are expected to win regularly. That means having the majority of possession and attacking with many players. If you do that without having players who are good enough to break down tight defences, you will lose quite a few games, because you'll never be able to put your opponents under real pressure.

If its not his fault, whos is it?


He is the coach, he pciked the line up and the formation.


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I am sorry but this is DEFINITELY the coach's fault. He could tell the players what to do, what not to do, and if players don't listen or don't obey, he could tell them to fuck off. Allegri has told so many players to fuck off, many of them being our legends, so I see no problem of him doing that, which can only mean one thing: it is the coach's fault.

Allegri can fuck off for I can care right now. Two losses in a row at home against two weak teams, and three consecutive lacklustre performances. I think that's enough.
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De Jong is mediocre to me, countless times he got the ball and slowed the hell out of our play. He's good defensively but everything else ha.. Emmanuelson should leave , a player like him deserves more then to be a reserve .. Boateng lol that's all I have to say, acerbis ok but so slow, Pazzini is useless with out service
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(09-15-2012, 10:01 PM)ACM1899 Wrote:
(09-15-2012, 09:49 PM)devoted_dm Wrote: This is definitely not Allegri's fault. Our problem is that the only good player we have right now is De Jong. The rest are mediocre, and in addition many of them are inexperienced, which means that we have no true leaders on the pitch and no one who can give us that extra quality or spark of genius that will win us tight games.

And we have to realize, smaller teams will defend against us and hit us on the counter. We may have better players than them, but we make ourselves vulnerable because as a big team we are expected to win regularly. That means having the majority of possession and attacking with many players. If you do that without having players who are good enough to break down tight defences, you will lose quite a few games, because you'll never be able to put your opponents under real pressure.

If its not his fault, whos is it?


He is the coach, he pciked the line up and the formation.

Yeah but who was he supposed to pick for the team then? Who did we have on our bench that could have made a difference tonight? And I really don't see how a change of formation would have helped, because we don't have the players to play 4-4-2, 4-3-3 or any other formation than 4-3-1-2.
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