South American Clubs

[kenny_shev]

Although south americans are famous for their love for football but i dont know so much of what is goin on overthere. I only know few big clubs such as River Plates, Bocca Juniors and San Paolo. Can anyone update me on this please? do they play in any competitions that are equivalent to the CL or UEFA cup

thanks

[rae]

Originally posted by kenny_shev
Although south americans are famous for their love for football but i dont know so much of what is goin on overthere. I only know few big clubs such as River Plates, Bocca Juniors and San Paolo. Can anyone update me on this please? do they play in any competitions that are equivalent to the CL or UEFA cup

thanks
well I know that south american tuornament Copa Libertadores are the same as CL in Europe
I'd like to add my favorite teams in this region :
Santos, Vasco da Gama, Boca Juniors, Penarol etc.
tere are also many more famous teams, however I do not have enough time to write them here.
Maybe later ..............

[cab]

Many of you know the Copa Libertadores tournament but, there is another cup that there is played in South America, LA COPA SUDAMERICANA, is like UEFA cup for Europe but here, the tournament is played after the copa libertadores, because of this you can see teams like Boca and Santos playing in this cup too.
At this time the tournament is in semi-finals, the results so far are:

1/4 Finals:
River Plate (Argentina) - Asunción (Paraguay) (2-1 aggregate)
Atletico Nacional (colombia) - Boca (Arg.) (4-2) aggregate)
Cienciano (Perú) - Santos (Brazil) (3-2) aggregate)
Sao Paulo (Brazil) - The Strongest (Bolivia) (7-2 aggregate)

Semi final will be:
River - Sao Paulo and
Cienciano - Atletico Nacional

The surprise is Cienciano because they eliminated Santos and is a team that is playing really well, about Boca, they played against Atletico Nacional with the bench because they are reserving their players for the Intercontinental cup and the Argentina's league, even Bianchi didn't travel to Colombia for the second match of the series.

[cab]

About the national leagues, here is the situation in Argentina and Brazil:

In Argentina after 14 match days in the "torneo apertura" the standings are:

1. Boca Juniors............................31
2. San Lorenzo ..........................27
3. Banfield..................................25
4. Rosario Central .....................25
5. Newell's Old Boys..................24
6. Quilmes.................................24
7. Arsenal de Sarandí................20
8. Racing Club............................19
9. River Plate .............................19
10. Vélez Sarsfield......................19
11. Chacarita Juniors..................18
12. Colón de Santa Fe................18
13. Estudiantes La Plata.............16
14. Talleres de Córdoba..............16
15. Lanús ...................................15
16. Independiente .....................14
17. Atletico Rafaela.....................14
18. Gimnasia La Plata.................11
19. Olimpo de Bahía Blanca..........9
20. Nueva Chicago.......................9


In Brazil after 42 match days the "Brasilerao" have the next standings:
1 Cruzeiro............. 88
2 Santos ...............82
3 São Paulo ..........71
4 Coritiba..............68
5 Internacional ....68
6 São Caetano ....68
7 Atlético-MG.........63
8 Goiás.................62
9 Paraná .............61
10 Flamengo........59
11 Guarani...........58
12 Criciúma .........57
13 Figueirense ....56
14 Corinthians ....55
15 Atlético-PR......53
16 Vitória ...........53
17 Vasco ............49
18 Juventude .....47
19 Fluminense ...46
20 Paysandu .....45
21 Fortaleza .....45
22 Ponte Preta..45
23 Bahia ..........43
24 Grêmio ........40

[Goirre]

From Bolivian soccer all you need to know is that Bolivar is the best team. They are the team with more League titles and participations in the Copa Libertadores (even though we never made it past the quarter finals). In the last Copa Sudamericana we reached the semifinals where we lost to San Lorenzo of Argentina.

Other teams from Bolivian First division are:

San Jose
The Strongest
Oriente Petrolero
Blooming
Real Potosi
Wilstermann
Aurora
Iberoamericana
Independiente Petrolero (relegated for next season)
Guabira
.....and some more


!!ARRIBA BOLIVAR CARAJO!!

[rae]

Originally posted by cab
About the national leagues, here is the situation in Argentina and Brazil:

In Argentina after 14 match days in the "torneo apertura" the standings are:

1. Boca Juniors............................31
2. San Lorenzo ..........................27
3. Banfield..................................25
4. Rosario Central .....................25
5. Newell's Old Boys..................24
6. Quilmes.................................24
7. Arsenal de Sarandí................20
8. Racing Club............................19
9. River Plate .............................19
10. Vélez Sarsfield......................19
11. Chacarita Juniors..................18
12. Colón de Santa Fe................18
13. Estudiantes La Plata.............16
14. Talleres de Córdoba..............16
15. Lanús ...................................15
16. Independiente .....................14
17. Atletico Rafaela.....................14
18. Gimnasia La Plata.................11
19. Olimpo de Bahía Blanca..........9
20. Nueva Chicago.......................9


In Brazil after 42 match days the "Brasilerao" have the next standings:
1 Cruzeiro............. 88
2 Santos ...............82
3 São Paulo ..........71
4 Coritiba..............68
5 Internacional ....68
6 São Caetano ....68
7 Atlético-MG.........63
8 Goiás.................62
9 Paraná .............61
10 Flamengo........59
11 Guarani...........58
12 Criciúma .........57
13 Figueirense ....56
14 Corinthians ....55
15 Atlético-PR......53
16 Vitória ...........53
17 Vasco ............49
18 Juventude .....47
19 Fluminense ...46
20 Paysandu .....45
21 Fortaleza .....45
22 Ponte Preta..45
23 Bahia ..........43
24 Grêmio ........40

ok thanx very much
and can u give an advice
where can I find official websites of "torneo apertura" and "Brasilerao" as u called them.
I'd be very thankful. :tong:

[cab]

For Argentina:
You can go to the official page of AFA(Argentina's Federation of Football): http://www.afa.org.ar/ but it's crap:o , some links doesn't work and it's very slow so, I recomend the site:
http://www.uolsinectis.com.ar/uolfutbol/primera_division/index.htm
it's better, but it is in Spanish, you will have to learn "algunas palabras" my friend;)

[cab]

For Brazil the website of the federation is better:
http://cbfnews.uol.com.br/
but it is in Brazilian:rolleyes:

you could try in Spanish to in:
http://www.uolsinectis.com.ar/uolfutbol/ligas_ext/brasil/posiciones.htm

[rae]

Originally posted by cab
For Brazil the website of the federation is better:
http://cbfnews.uol.com.br/
but it is in Brazilian:rolleyes:

you could try in Spanish to in:
http://www.uolsinectis.com.ar/uolfutbol/ligas_ext/brasil/posiciones.htm

hrrrrrrrr
I should learn Spanish I should learn Spanish I should learn Spanish I should learn Spanish I should learn Spanish I should learn Spanish I should learn Spanish I should learn Spanish I should learn Spanish I should learn Spanish I should learn Spanish I should learn Spanish I should learn Spanish

and I shall
I promise you
one day we meet shall in San Siro and I'll speak "algunas palabras"
as you call it:tong: :tong: :tong:
I bet

[kenny_shev]

may be i should too..heard that south american chicks are really hot..;) is it true? :P

[kenny_shev]

spanish i meant...i should learn it

[rae]

Originally posted by kenny_shev
may be i should too..heard that south american chicks are really hot..;) is it true? :P

yeah, man you're right , I have one. I'm seriuos, she's from

Mexico.

How I wish to show you her but I don't have a digital camera or

scanner.:(

[rae]

here is she:tong: :tong: :tong: :tong: :tong: :tong:

[cab]

MAMA MIA!:D

[rae]

hrrrrrrrr
I should learn Spanish I should learn Spanish I should learn Spanish I should learn Spanish I should learn Spanish I should learn Spanish I should learn Spanish I should learn Spanish I should learn Spanish I should learn Spanish I should learn Spanish I should learn Spanish I should learn Spanish

and I shall
I promise you
one day we meet shall in San Siro and I'll speak "algunas palabras"
as you call it:tong: :tong: :tong:
I betnow I can proudly verify my word - I have done it :stuckup: puedo comprender algunas palabras en espanol y eso no es todo :lala:

PS: oooooooh that girl :( :sigh:

[Roger Nolli]

Clube Atlético Mineiro, Galo forte vingador!!!!!!!!!

[Roger Nolli]

The classification of the Brasileirão now is :


Classificação
01 Ponte Preta 20

02 Botafogo 18

03 Fluminense 17

04 Corinthians 16

05 Internacional 16

06 Juventude 15

07 Santos 14

08 São Caetano 14

09 Coritiba 13

10 Cruzeiro 12

11 São Paulo 12

12 Paraná 12

13 Goiás 11

14 Palmeiras 10

15 Brasiliense 9

16 Flamengo 9

17 Fortaleza 8

18 Paysandu 8

19 Vasco 8

20 Figueirense 6

21 Atlético-MG 5

22 Atlético-PR 2

Oh.... My club is bad, about the defense, because the rest is good, at least in the paper.

[Maradona (10)]

Velez Sarsfield just won the Torneo Clausura here in Argentina. Remember Velez? They defeated us in the Intercontinental cup like a decade ago, coached by Carlos Bianchi now in Atletico Madrid.

Velez best players? Castroman (played for Lazio), Jonas Gutierrez (great motor, improving skills) and Somoza (Good defensive half).

[Roger Nolli]

Atacching the uniform of my Atlético!

[MATNAT]

Guadalajara are playing Atl.Paranaense in the copa libertadores.... who do you think will win?

going on form in this tournament you`d have to favour Guadalajara, those mexcians are doing the business at the moment!

what about tomorrows match between River plate and sao paolo?
do you think the brazilians will hold on or will the "millionarios" triumph and over turn a 2-0 first leg defecit at la monumental?

[Roger Nolli]

Final of Libertadores Cup: São Paulo x Atlético Paranaense, a brazilian final!

For me is São Paulo x Liverpool, I would like São Paulo x Milan, but....

[pa7uel]

I hate Velez with all my soul but next year i see them with big chances in Libertadores.
Also they have a fabulous player called Jonas Gutierrez that is going to get very nigh soon (best thing he has is being Almagro suporter, that makes him even better lol).