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Maldini_Sheva
25-07-2004, 05:43
AC Milan ask Parma for info on Gilardino
tribalfootball.com - July 25, 2004
AC Milan have approached Parma for information on striker Alberto Gilardino.
An injury to Pippo Inzaghi has forced Milan back into the market for a new striker and the Italian champs made a formal enquiry yesterday about Gilardino's situation.
No bid was mentioned, but Parma is now aware that three clubs, Milan, Juventus and AS Roma, are all circling to sign the Italy U21 ace.
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Well, now Milan have entered the race to sign Gilardino. This is a good news, but I don't see why Milan need to sign him rite now(may be for the future).
Well, I know we will lose Inzaghi for the next 3 months. Well do you guys think this is a good news, if come out true??
i prefer cassano or torres but of course i wouldn't say no to gilardino. but no matter who not for this year
Stezagud
25-07-2004, 07:32
[QUOTE]i prefer cassano or torres but of course i wouldn't say no to gilardino. but no matter who not for this yearQUOTE]
perhaps sign him and loan him back to Parma for a year?
Pippo is struggling with a few injuries and he is now at an age where injuries are likely to be more frequent and harder to recover from, also Crespo is only here on loan. As Juve and Roma would both want him immediately Parma would be more tempted to take Milans offer if they did this.
I wouldnt get excited because tribal football is an awful news source. If they say something you should expect the opposite. With Inzaghi injured which is likely to be for a few weeks, no the whole season. we have three top class strikers and like Braida said in the past Kaka can be the fourth striker. Rui Costa is ready to pounce. Besides what happens when Inzaghi is back then we would have 5 strikers all competing for two spots. :eek: Too much.
"perhaps sign him and loan him back to Parma for a year?"
that would be great of course
GATTUSO1
25-07-2004, 11:03
I think Gilardino would be good but Milan are known for not letting young players play other than for foreign one's (kaka). It would be nice but I would want him with us only if they let him play.. Look at Borriello, he only played like 10 games this year and thats not enough. Lost home talent you know..Anyway we'll see...but i hope Pippo gets better fast!!!
i think it wud b awesome to buy gilardino now n loan him to parma for 1 year. i
read sumwhere that in season 2005/2006 every italian club will have to have at least 5 italian players on the field at all times, and at least 9 italian players in the whole squad. since next year crespo iz goin bac to chelsea, and inzaghi's future seems uncertain, gilardino cud start for us along side shevcenko. we wud also
have 5 italians on the field: pirlo, gattuso, maldini, nesta, GILARDINO. i really
hope we buy him!
ACMILAN1983
25-07-2004, 14:31
I got excited until I saw the article was from tribalfootball :rolleyes:
Maldini_Sheva
25-07-2004, 14:42
i think it wud b awesome to buy gilardino now n loan him to parma for 1 year. i
read sumwhere that in season 2005/2006 every italian club will have to have at least 5 italian players on the field at all times, and at least 9 italian players in the whole squad. since next year crespo iz goin bac to chelsea, and inzaghi's future seems uncertain, gilardino cud start for us along side shevcenko. we wud also
have 5 italians on the field: pirlo, gattuso, maldini, nesta, GILARDINO. i really
hope we buy him!
The chance for Crespo to stay in Milan after this season would 60-40. Remember that we have an option on the player. well I'm agree with your opinion about taking Gilardino right now and Loan him back to Parma. Hopefully that Milan would sign him soon, bcoz I don't want to see him in "Bianconeri" shirt. Either Giallorosi or Rossoneri :D :D
o i didn't noe we had an option on crespo. if gilardino goes to roma then it wud b like a dream come true for roma fans. they wud have totti, cassano, gilardino
upfront
zlatanov
25-07-2004, 16:14
o i didn't noe we had an option on crespo. if gilardino goes to roma then it wud b like a dream come true for roma fans. they wud have totti, cassano, gilardino
upfront
Well, we do NOT have an option on Crespo - he was simply loaned out by Chelsea to us but they, for whatever reason, refused to give Milan a buy-out option onthe player. He is on a free 1-year-loan deal with us and Chelsea are paying part of his wages - according to calciomercato.com they are paying 80% of Crespo's salary and Milan the rest.
Don't ask me why Chelsea didn't give us an option to buy him out - it just seems very unlikely to me that they are gonna be keen on him next year i.e. Crespo in Chelsea is in the past. Or may be we didn't whant an option on him?
zlatanov
25-07-2004, 16:18
I think Gilardino would be good but Milan are known for not letting young players play other than for foreign one's (kaka). It would be nice but I would want him with us only if they let him play.. Look at Borriello, he only played like 10 games this year and thats not enough. Lost home talent you know..Anyway we'll see...but i hope Pippo gets better fast!!!
Look I am not sure what you meant by this post but if the young players are world class players as well TRUST ME they are gonna play for Milan. if they are just good young players they are gonna warm up the bench and that's it. What would you suggest - play Borriello in place of Sheva/JDT/Pippo just because MAYBE he will become a great player. Or play Abumeyang in place of Cafu, or Donatti in stead of Pirlo? If they are great they will play young/medium/old they will play only if they desrve to be in the best 11, otherwise ... bench and more training.
Inzaghi-9
25-07-2004, 17:43
I have to agree with acdc81, Cassano is a higher preference, in my opinion...K77SH_C, you beat me to it...Inzaghi is only out for 6 weeks, and if you guys remember the last one, he was ready to be selected for Euro...So maybe shorter than 6 weeks...But more to the point, again 5 strikers would be too many. There's already enough competition upfront. Once Pippo returns from injury and finds form, he will once again be the prolific striker that he is. Particularly in the Champions League.
Shevchenko10
25-07-2004, 18:00
Imo these are just some invented news from newspapers/web-sites etc because they don't have anything to say about a team with many fans like Milan is.I give max 1% chances to Gilardino to sign for Milan this year(although I would like to see him playing for us).It's not the first time that they are trying to invent fantasy Milan signings just to keep their customers interested..And don't forget that there is a guy called Pozzi who can easily be our 4th attacker for the time Pippo is injured.Pozzi was an upcoming star when we bought him, I am susprised that he is so quickly forgotten.For all these reasons I don't see any real chance for Gilardino..
Well, we do NOT have an option on Crespo - he was simply loaned out by Chelsea to us but they, for whatever reason, refused to give Milan a buy-out option onthe player. He is on a free 1-year-loan deal with us and Chelsea are paying part of his wages - according to calciomercato.com they are paying 80% of Crespo's salary and Milan the rest.
Don't ask me why Chelsea didn't give us an option to buy him out - it just seems very unlikely to me that they are gonna be keen on him next year i.e. Crespo in Chelsea is in the past. Or may be we didn't whant an option on him?
i think chelsea loaned him to us so they can make room for kezman and drogba. they probably didn want to sell him bcuz he has been playin bad and his price tag wudnt b too high, if he performs really well in milan this season then next season his price tag will rise n they will sell him .
Milan would like to wait until next season, when Gilardino's contract is expired. :D
but I believed Juve won't missed him.
zlatanov
25-07-2004, 22:29
i think chelsea loaned him to us so they can make room for kezman and drogba. they probably didn want to sell him bcuz he has been playin bad and his price tag wudnt b too high, if he performs really well in milan this season then next season his price tag will rise n they will sell him .
Yeah, what you say makes sense but to some extent - with or without a buy out option the price of the striker is not predetermined i.e. if Chelsea had agreed to give Milan this option on Crespo the two clubs would have still had to agree on the price at the end of the upcoming season (and not now when Crespo's value has sunk). If the two clubs failed to reach an agreement then Crespo would have had to go back to Chelski.
So, the only reason I can think of is if they plan on using him again which just doesn't make much sense, does it? Unless, Roman believes that Morinho will fail and next season the new coach may want Crespo back :grinser:
Anyway, this, at least for now is not that important.
I am more worried by the fact that Juve get closer and closer to Gilardino. True - we don't need him this season but I am worried that we will get interested in him when his price has skyrocketed, as it often happens, not that he would come cheap now. At least we could try to get him now and leave him with Parma for another season (we still don't know what will happen with Ernan at the end of this one).
Well, we will see. :firedev:
Giovanni
26-07-2004, 09:18
I have to agree with acdc81, Cassano is a higher preference, in my opinion...K77SH_C, you beat me to it...Inzaghi is only out for 6 weeks, and if you guys remember the last one, he was ready to be selected for Euro...So maybe shorter than 6 weeks...But more to the point, again 5 strikers would be too many. There's already enough competition upfront. Once Pippo returns from injury and finds form, he will once again be the prolific striker that he is. Particularly in the Champions League.
6 weeks? if he get into sugery, he will come back in january to be kind..that's the reality when it comes on surgery..5/6 weeks just to decide if he need another operation and to observe the situation with the ankle injury :dontkn:
Maldini_Sheva
26-07-2004, 09:30
6 weeks? if he get into sugery, he will come back in january to be kind..that's the reality when it comes on surgery..5/6 weeks just to decide if he need another operation and to observe the situation with the ankle injury :dontkn:
OMG, So do you guys think we need another striker, If let's say that Pippo will be out 'til January?? IMO, we need one, bcoz I'm afraid that Pippo wouldn't be the same w/ the "old Pippo" that we used to know. :D :D
Well, If Milan could find some cheap bargain, that would be useful and we could save more money again for the future. :D :D :D
OMG, So do you guys think we need another striker, If let's say that Pippo will be out 'til January?? IMO, we need one, bcoz I'm afraid that Pippo wouldn't be the same w/ the "old Pippo" that we used to know. :D :D
Well, If Milan could find some cheap bargain, that would be useful and we could save more money again for the future. :D :D :D
Old Pippo? Paolo? :hammer:
For the time being, most probably Milan would play Kaka as the fourth striker, and if till January Pippo is still injured :moan: May be an option to buy another striker could be used here.
I hope Pozzi can be a surprise. Some players made debut for Milan at 20, but seldom at 18. Whenever we got a striker injured other than Pippo, Pozzi can be played in the first half
Giovanni
01-08-2004, 16:49
Well, accoring to the latest, the Gilardino scenario is not that impossible. I've heard from Carlo Laudisa, the best expert of market of La Gazzetta, a very reliable source, there are many doubts on the Inzaghi situation. The point is he has to solve the problem once for all, and tonite, at a tv show, with Laudisa, a famous professor and doctor spoke about the fact in such ankle injuries, even the best doctors in the world take long time to consider an surgery operation. So, the times can be very very long, even 1 year to recover Pippo, and Milan can consider to fit inside the deal of Gilradino. Roma has no money to buy him, and it's pretty difficult despite the Baldini's words. Juve is the true contender for Gilardino.
Gilardino is a total striker. He can do everything, and he impressed me not only for his scoring skills, but even for his ability to dribble, to pass and play with partners.
This is a reliable track we could decide to take. It depends on Inzaghi's situation.
And Pippo will be 32 when he will recover from this injury.
sacchi someyears ago suggested Galliani to buy the unknown Gilardino. We'll see. The market experts, and even our Milan Channel legend Pellegatti, told there are very good chances to see Gilardino, sooner or later, with our jersey.
I think Gilardino would be good but Milan are known for not letting young players play other than for foreign one's (kaka). It would be nice but I would want him with us only if they let him play.. Look at Borriello, he only played like 10 games this year and thats not enough. Lost home talent you know..Anyway we'll see...but i hope Pippo gets better fast!!!
Another poster that prefers watching young players over watching the team win...
Another poster that prefers watching young players over watching the team win...
:dielaugh: Well there allways Parma, Chievo and now Roma for those fans with that inclination ;)
Grande-Milan-DK
02-08-2004, 10:17
Play CM to get great results with an avarage age of 25 ... Gilardinho .. well .. 2002/03 season he scored 2 goals ... last season he did well ... but let`s take a look after the comming season .. I doubt he has the class of an top goal scorerer.
ACMILAN1983
02-08-2004, 10:27
I think Gilardinho has the ability to really go a far distance.
But like Grande-Milan-DK said, I think we have to wait and see what he does in the next year or so.
The future of Alberto Gilardino hangs in the balance as Milan now join the fray, but his agent believes it’ll be a last minute deal whatever the destination.
“We haven’t heard of any contact with Milan,” maintained representative Francesco Romano after the rumour emerged this morning.
“Gilardino is in training with the Under-21 side and is currently concentrating only on the Olympics. From next week we will begin to consider our options.”
The Parma striker has made it clear on numerous occasions that he favours a switch to Roma and even stated he felt “60 per cent a Giallorossi player already,” but his £16m price-tag is too steep for the cash-strapped Capital club.
Juventus had also been heavily linked with the 22-year-old, especially after their move for Adrian Mutu collapsed on Friday, but a new theory is emerging over this weekend.
Newspapers suggest that Milan will bid for Gilardino following the continuing injury worries of Pippo Inzaghi, although a move is more likely in January than the summer.
Parma director Luca Baraldi continues to insist that the star striker will not be sold for any price, but few believe that is the case, especially with Gilardino’s public call to Roma.
“Anything could happen,” added his agent Romano. “Roma could put the pressure on, just as Juventus could revive their interest. He is an intelligent lad with a contract tying him to Parma until 2006. In any case, we must wait for the end of the Olympics before taking steps.”
Milan’s other option to replace the increasingly troubled Inzaghi would be River Plate hitman Maxi Lopez, who is also a target for several Premiership sides.
Maldini_Sheva
10-08-2004, 03:44
hey can someone move this tread, bcoz I think we had a talk for Gilardino b4.
Lancelot
11-08-2004, 17:36
Giovanni thanks for the usefull info about Gillardino...Kepp updating ppl like me that dont have access to Italian Media about the case...Hope we will got him last day, like we did with Nesta....
Ps
I just saw that: http://www.goal.com/NewsDetail.aspx?idNews=16334&idSez=16 so maybe...there is no chance at all....:(
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he has just signed a new contract extension with parma today
we dont need him anyway at present Sheva crespo pippo jdt & pozzi but he is a quality player & would be a good signing next summer and i would imagine with the new contract he will not be leaving parma til next summer at the earliest
zlatanov
11-08-2004, 19:01
he has just signed a new contract extension with parma today
we dont need him anyway at present Sheva crespo pippo jdt & pozzi but he is a quality player & would be a good signing next summer and i would imagine with the new contract he will not be leaving parma til next summer at the earliest
I do not think that this is going to keep him in Parma till 2007 or whatever year the new contract expires. This will simply give parma more time to consider all bids and eventually sell him to that club. I just don;t see Gillardino spending another 3-4 years in parma, may be 3-4 years ago when parma was one of the lavishly spending clubs in Europe this would be possible, but now when the club is being torn apart by financial uncurtainty I kind of doubt that Gila will spend his best years in a club that doesn't really have a chance of winning something.
Agreed, zlatanov but it probably means they can keep for another season at least. If he has another 20+ goal season his value will be huge, probably well over 20 million. Not least because Chelsea and Madrid will start showing an interest.
Maltese Charlie
12-08-2004, 07:04
Have fun with this Rumor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :clap: :rock3: :clap:
Gilardino, la "regia" è del MilanRossoneri dietro al rinnovo con Parma
Il rinnovo di Gilardino con il Parma fino al 2007 non chiude all'attaccante le porte del Milan. Anzi: dietro alla firma del giocatore sembra proprio che ci sia la "regia" dei rossoneri, favoriti dai buoni rapporti con il consulente tecnico del Parma Arrigo Sacchi. Con il nuovo accordo Gilardino guadagnerà oltre un milione di euro nel 2004/2005, così da resistere alle tentazioni immediate (Juve e Roma); a giugno, poi, sarà chiamato dal Milan.
Sembra quasi paradossale, ma il rinnovo di Gilardino con il Parma non significa affatto che l'attaccante, uno dei giocatori più contesi dell'estate, rimarrà alla corte gialloblù fino al 2007. Anzi, la firma potrebbe addirittura avvicinarlo al Milan, una delle più agguerrite inseguitrici della stella dell'Under 21 (le altre sono Juve e Roma). La società rossonera ha posato gli occhi sulla punta soprattutto ora che le condizioni di Inzaghi sono sempre più incerte. Il vecchio contratto avrebbe portato nel portafoglio di Gilardino solo 400 mila euro per questa stagione: con il nuovo accordo l'ingaggio è quasi triplicato, il che rende molto più difficile il passaggio immediato del giocatore a Juve e Roma. Il Milan invece può aspettare, ma è sicuro di sferrare un attacco totale al parmense al termine della stagione; anche perchè i due milioni di euro che Gila guadagnerebbe nel 2005/2'006 difficilmente potranno essere coperti dal Parma. Un "assist" al Milan, insomma, favorito da i buoni rapporti tra Galliani e Sacchi.
soarce: Tgcom
Maldini_Sheva
12-08-2004, 13:30
Can someone transalate it?? :D :D
zlatanov
12-08-2004, 20:42
Can someone transalate it?? :D :D
Well, this comes from tgcom.it which is the former mediasetonline.com (owned by Berlusconi) and it is a pretty reliable sorce (others I use are calciomercato.com and gazzetta.it). It basically says that:
(Note this is not a word-for-word translation but just the most important ideas)
It basically sais that just because Gilardino extended with Parma till 2007 (his old contract was until 2006) this doesn't mean he is gonna stay with them until then. It is most probably Milan behind this extention, using the great relations Milan has with Arigho Sacchi - Parma's managing director or something. This is reported to be just a shrude move by Milan to make Gilardino sign with Parma till 2007 only to keep Juve's and Roma's hands off him. Also this new extention would guarantee Gilardino better wages (1mil) for the next season with Parma and after that Milan is gonna get him.
ACMILAN1983
13-08-2004, 07:10
One thing I never really got was Milan are supposed to have this great relationship with Parma because of Sacchi, but why is all the Parma players were linked to never come?
Lancelot
13-08-2004, 07:17
Because we think that we have a good relationship but insted of this, we dont...
Simple
zlatanov
13-08-2004, 13:02
I am not sure what you two mean by this but name a Parma player we may actually have needed and could have got if we had good relations with them.
Buffon - went to Juve because they paid so much for him that Milan built a whole squad for 1/5 the money and went on to win the CL and Serie A. What you think that Milan's rapports with Sacchi are that good that Parma would have prefered selling Buffon to Milan for 20mil and to Juve for 50mil? Hey, Sacchi and galliani aren't LOVERS, after all :D
Thuram - who was 30 when Juve bought him for 25mil and he never really was that good for them
Ferrari - who would be nothing but benched in Milan
Who else have I left out...
Bonera - many of you say how good he is but he is nothing more than good - the guy is simply good that is - he just in't Milan quality. The guy is more motionless than a tree trunk.
The only player who Milan could be interested in is Gilardino and he is the only
for whom it would be worth going for.
Maldini_Sheva
14-08-2004, 16:05
Well, about this signing players, I'm quite sure that we'll always have a slight advantage compare to Juve or Inter, but I don't know about Madrid though. :D
As the matter affect, look how we treated every players, compare to Madrid, Juve, Inter, Chelsea, etc. We always had respect w/ our player decision.
But, as soon as we're win both Seri A and Champions cup this season, well people will start to see, who's better and who's bad. I just want to see that Milan beat Madrid 3-0, then Inter 5-0, then Juve 4-0, then CHELSEA 6-0. :D :D :D :D
that's right... and then loose to depor 4-0 :) ....
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The only player who Milan could be interested in is Gilardino and he is the only for whom it would be worth going for.
IMO Gilardino would be worth here to replace Inzaghi in the future. in the last decade Milan didn't have an Italian predator as main striker (except Pippo). Our main attackers were Van Basten, Savicevic, Weah, Bierhoff and now Shevchenko. Names like Massaro, Lentini, Simone, and Comandini didn't impress me much, tho I did respect for their contributions.
hmm.. maybe Italy are better in making great defenders. Baresi, Tasotti, Costacurta, Maldini, Nesta.. does Vierchowood count? He had played in 562 Serie A matches, just behind Dino Zoff (570 matches).
Maldini_Sheva
15-08-2004, 00:09
that's right... and then loose to depor 4-0 :) ....
Hey, Sash think it over when you're talking.OK. Rite now, we already add afew quality players in Stam and Crespo, also Dhorassoo. I don't think there're would be another humiliating defeat for Milan. If Milan will be defeated, The score will only reach around 2-0 or 2-1 or 1-0 no more than that. Did you remmember why we were defeat by Depor at that day?? Too exhausted and too happy w/ the result of the 1st leg. W/ a great rotation in whole squad and didn't underestimate the other team power, I think we could be unbeaten, IF we showed last season performance. :D :D :D
Maldini_Sheva
15-08-2004, 00:13
Well, I'm fully agree w/ argo here.
In the decade, Italian never stopped rising many top defenders and Goalies, And I think Italy also producing a very talented bomber goals. I think the problem is the midfields. Look, not I'm underestimating Italian Midifielders, but compare w/ Spain, Brazil, France, even England, they have a better midfields.~o~well, if Italy can produce a good midfields too, May be they'll lift both WC and Euro. :D :D
About Gilardino, well, we could have his 1st options like a rumour that I've been heard that Milan is in the behind of his contract renewal. Well, to see all of them in one team, Sheva, JDT, Crespo(if he's staying), Inzaghi(if he can recover well) already make me proud. If in the future, Crespo is heading back to Chelsea and Pippo retired, Both Maxi and Gilardino should be enough to cover them up. :D :D
rossoneroid
15-08-2004, 00:54
Yeah, I want more italians play for Milan. Forza Simone !
triniman
15-08-2004, 01:14
Just for note....thuram was ours , but we gave up the first option on him in order to get pippo.....
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Lancelot
15-08-2004, 08:33
I am not sure what you two mean by this but name a Parma player we may actually have needed and could have got if we had good relations with them.
Buffon - went to Juve because they paid so much for him that Milan built a whole squad for 1/5 the money and went on to win the CL and Serie A. What you think that Milan's rapports with Sacchi are that good that Parma would have prefered selling Buffon to Milan for 20mil and to Juve for 50mil? Hey, Sacchi and galliani aren't LOVERS, after all :D
Thuram - who was 30 when Juve bought him for 25mil and he never really was that good for them
Ferrari - who would be nothing but benched in Milan
Who else have I left out...
Bonera - many of you say how good he is but he is nothing more than good - the guy is simply good that is - he just in't Milan quality. The guy is more motionless than a tree trunk.
The only player who Milan could be interested in is Gilardino and he is the only
for whom it would be worth going for.
Xmm, i remember someone called....Fabio Cannavaro...Do u?
Also, Bonera is a great deal of player...a yound defender we could use, to make a renewal to our ageing defence...
zlatanov
15-08-2004, 09:53
Xmm, i remember someone called....Fabio Cannavaro...Do u?
Also, Bonera is a great deal of player...a yound defender we could use, to make a renewal to our ageing defence...
Hmm, you must have a great memory to remember Canavaro for he has disappeared for the past 1-2 years. But with such a great memory you must aslo remeber a player called Nesta. Does it ring any bells? Also this great memo of yours should help you remember that Canavaro was about to sign with Milan and then all of a sudden he went to Inter. And then guess what, yeah, Milan got Nesta. Don't you think that there may have easily been a change in plans and Galliani and co finally realised that it is worth pay a bit more for a younger and better player?
As for Bonnera, isn't he like 25 or something? And he IS nowhere near Milan quality. Just because we need younger defenders it doesn't mean we have to get any good young, well in Bonera's case not that young, player.
There is a TON of players out there who are better than him and at least as young. And we are about to miss on one of them - Colocini.
Hmm, you must have a great memory to remember Canavaro for he has disappeared for the past 1-2 years. But with such a great memory you must aslo remeber a player called Nesta. Does it ring any bells? Also this great memo of yours should help you remember that Canavaro was about to sign with Milan and then all of a sudden he went to Inter. And then guess what, yeah, Milan got Nesta. Don't you think that there may have easily been a change in plans and Galliani and co finally realised that it is worth pay a bit more for a younger and better player?
As for Bonnera, isn't he like 25 or something? And he IS nowhere near Milan quality. Just because we need younger defenders it doesn't mean we have to get any good young, well in Bonera's case not that young, player.
well said. i was going to post about nesta but i think your post already said all i need to say.
Lancelot
15-08-2004, 11:35
Hmm, you must have a great memory to remember Canavaro for he has disappeared for the past 1-2 years. But with such a great memory you must aslo remeber a player called Nesta. Does it ring any bells? Also this great memo of yours should help you remember that Canavaro was about to sign with Milan and then all of a sudden he went to Inter. And then guess what, yeah, Milan got Nesta. Don't you think that there may have easily been a change in plans and Galliani and co finally realised that it is worth pay a bit more for a younger and better player?
As for Bonnera, isn't he like 25 or something? And he IS nowhere near Milan quality. Just because we need younger defenders it doesn't mean we have to get any good young, well in Bonera's case not that young, player.
There is a TON of players out there who are better than him and at least as young. And we are about to miss on one of them - Colocini.
Canavaro is disappeared because simply he made the wrong move and went to our cousins...I bet all the money u want, that if Nesta goes to Inter as well, he wll have the same end...The story is that the player went to Parma instead of us...I couldnt possible know if Galliani did what u are saying(and cant realise how u know or assume that except u are Galliani buddy) but as u can see from my profile, nesta is one of my fav players...
As for Bonera, i think he is good to play with us, and learn next to Maldini or Billy..Coloccini is a talent, but i dont think he can handle the pace...He didnt handled it to Spain i think....U disagree?
Ps
I find yours posts little irritating...Is there a reason?
:cheers:
zlatanov
15-08-2004, 13:13
Canavaro is disappeared because simply he made the wrong move and went to our cousins...I bet all the money u want, that if Nesta goes to Inter as well, he wll have the same end...The story is that the player went to Parma instead of us...I couldnt possible know if Galliani did what u are saying(and cant realise how u know or assume that except u are Galliani buddy) but as u can see from my profile, nesta is one of my fav players...
As for Bonera, i think he is good to play with us, and learn next to Maldini or Billy..Coloccini is a talent, but i dont think he can handle the pace...He didnt handled it to Spain i think....U disagree?
Ps
I find yours posts little irritating...Is there a reason?
:cheers:
Yeah, I just had a bad day. Sorry about the intonation but still don't agree on Nesta and especially Bonera - Colo is times better than him as for whether he can handle the pace - last season he handled Barca, Depor, valencia, and Real so damn good that Real are on the verge of signing him now. You will see what I mean when he goes there and then you will realise that Bonera was just a good player and nothing more.
The problem is that Milan are about to lose Colo and do so for very little money. Then, when he is gone, we will be looking around for a young defender and spend a lot of US on him. If there is one young defender I would rank as equal to Colo this is Mexes. Ferarri is very good too but he is 3-4 years older than these two.
Peace :cheers:
Lancelot
15-08-2004, 13:37
Ok mate, maybe u are right for Colo(i just discuss it with some friends in Icq and maybe i was wrong)
Anyway, as for every milan player, i hope dont goes to Real and dont leave us without take money...
Hope your day is better tommorowww:P
:)
:)
GATTUSO1
15-08-2004, 14:05
Honestly I think Gilardinho will eventually come to milan byut not yet. I think Milan are waiting until he really explodes into a top notch striker. That would be a dream for us and the national team. But one thing still bothers me, we need more italians playing in serie A. We have more foreigners than home talent. Look at the under 21, one of the most complete teams. Better than the national in my opinion.
Lancelot
15-08-2004, 14:16
Honestly I think Gilardinho will eventually come to milan byut not yet. I think Milan are waiting until he really explodes into a top notch striker. That would be a dream for us and the national team. But one thing still bothers me, we need more italians playing in serie A. We have more foreigners than home talent. Look at the under 21, one of the most complete teams. Better than the national in my opinion.
I agree on that, and for that i was hoping that Bonera could be something good.
Also for what u are mentioning about Under 21 team...i notice that years now, Italy had a very good Under 21 team but then, the same players goes to the National team, and they dont play good...i dont know why is this...maybe an italian can answer it :cool:
GATTUSO1
15-08-2004, 14:21
Its not whether they do good on the national team, its just like Mister Trap (god I hate him) he puts too much praise on other players (Totti). And forgets the others and plus when a under 21 star isnt used to playing in the national team like he'll get called once and never given another chance. Also coaches have favorites so imagine. Materazzi stinks in my opinion. The stupid penalty against bulgaria and the same against south korea. Man if I was coach we wouldve had 2 world cups and 2 euro cups already.
zlatanov
15-08-2004, 15:17
Yeah, the major problem of football is that those who can do everything are in the stands :kotc:
As for the home grown tallent - you are obviously an Italian, though living in NY, - and on the U-21 team there are what 25 players. This doesn't mean that there is enough young blood for all teams in serie A. Plus, the world is becoming smaller and smaller and boundaries are disappearing - the best will play for the best. This nationalistic attitude of playing italians just because they are italians belongs in the past - the present and the future belong to the good players with talent independent of their nationality. If you are good you are gonna play for Milan, italian or not, otherwise Brescia and the likes.
GATTUSO1
15-08-2004, 15:41
Listen I think serie a should go more with home talent for the simple fact that italian teams acquire italian players and some foreigners but for the major part i think home grown alent should be there focus. italy won the 1982 world cup because it limited 3 foreigners per team. and dont tell me thats bull**** because more italians were playing regularly and they all gained experience and skill.
Maldini_Sheva
15-08-2004, 16:30
Listen I think serie a should go more with home talent for the simple fact that italian teams acquire italian players and some foreigners but for the major part i think home grown alent should be there focus. italy won the 1982 world cup because it limited 3 foreigners per team. and dont tell me thats bull**** because more italians were playing regularly and they all gained experience and skill.
you can't say that all the time. everyone should get a fair chance. well, sometimes I saw many italian young players abit lazy and I'm also questioning their competitiveness. For talent, Italian players have alot of it, but it's too tough to find another players like Baresi, Nesta, Maldini, Riva, Rossi, Bergomi and other Italian legends RIGHT NOW. From many young Italian players, only Gilardino and Ferrari was the best assests for Italian future, where is the others?? If you know that this league have so many foreigners, as Italian players, they should work twice harder than the foreigners. not complaining about limiting foreigners per-team or such else. actually, to have alot of foreigners is an advantage for Italian. so they can learn alot from them, how to become professional like them or may be they can copy and add some of their moves. well that's my opinion though. :D :D
Maldini_Sheva
15-08-2004, 16:32
Yeah, the major problem of football is that those who can do everything are in the stands :kotc:
As for the home grown tallent - you are obviously an Italian, though living in NY, - and on the U-21 team there are what 25 players. This doesn't mean that there is enough young blood for all teams in serie A. Plus, the world is becoming smaller and smaller and boundaries are disappearing - the best will play for the best. This nationalistic attitude of playing italians just because they are italians belongs in the past - the present and the future belong to the good players with talent independent of their nationality. If you are good you are gonna play for Milan, italian or not, otherwise Brescia and the likes.
Good point Zlatanov and I'm totally agree with ur point here. :D :D
zlatanov
15-08-2004, 16:53
Good point Zlatanov and I'm totally agree with ur point here. :D :D
Thanks. Oh, and btw, I also agree with my point. :diablo: :grinser: :rotfl:
Just kidding.
Maltese Charlie
16-08-2004, 02:42
This nationalistic attitude of playing italians just because they are italians belongs in the past - the present and the future belong to the good players with talent independent of their nationality. If you are good you are gonna play for Milan, italian or not, otherwise Brescia and the likes.
I almost agree with you but you cannot refer to the future, as the Italian federation is trying to introduce restriction in 2 years time on foreign players including players from the E.U. contries.
From the line up of the 18 players, nine of them must be Italians.
The clubs and the EU are opposing for these restictions.
When there is a ban or restriction on the movement of foreign players the clubs will suffer.
1. Less competitive with other clubs in the European cups.
2. Increase in the market value of the Italian players.
On the other hand the National team suffers from a market liberation on foreign players on a long time basis.
zlatanov
16-08-2004, 08:02
I almost agree with you but you cannot refer to the future, as the Italian federation is trying to introduce restriction in 2 years time on foreign players including players from the E.U. contries.
From the line up of the 18 players, nine of them must be Italians.
The clubs and the EU are opposing for these restictions.
When there is a ban or restriction on the movement of foreign players the clubs will suffer.
1. Less competitive with other clubs in the European cups.
2. Increase in the market value of the Italian players.
On the other hand the National team suffers from a market liberation on foreign players on a long time basis.
The IFGC may introduce those bans - I also heard about plans like these - but as a result the italian teams will become the bitches of Europe i.e. they will kisk some italian ass big time in the CL and UEFA. As you said, the lack of competion will decrease the overall quality of the serie A also because italian players will not feel the rivalry of foreigners. This will make them even lazier and more self complacent.
As a result, the IFGC will get off the bans so, in the end, the future IS borderless.
As for Gattuso, not the Milan player but the forum member, he was claiming that when there were less foreigners in serie A Italy won a world cup in '82. Well, the foreigners' invasion started 10-15 years later and why did Italy win NOTHING in the meantime? Simply because their national team is still sitting on that old defensive mentality that is the hallmark of Italian football. Some club teams like Milan have evolved in their approach to the game but the Italian National Team is still a catenaccio lover, more or less. They won in 82 and before that because that style was still applicable then but today you need something more than just sit on your arse for 80 min and try playing for 10. In Spain 1982, Italy passed the groups with 3 draws but back then it was 1 point for a tie and 2 pts for a win. In modern footbal it is 3pts for a win so 3 draws won't get you anywhere but in the backyard of Europe, where Italy actually is in the moment.
Hopefully Lippi has some other ideas for the INT.
Maldini_Sheva
16-08-2004, 14:19
Any development about Gilardino coming to Milan?? :D :D
Zlatanov: The IFGC may introduce those bans - I also heard about plans like these - but as a result the italian teams will become the bitches of Europe i.e. they will kisk some italian ass big time in the CL and UEFA. As you said, the lack of competion will decrease the overall quality of the serie A also because italian players will not feel the rivalry of foreigners. This will make them even lazier and more self complacent. As a result, the IFGC will get off the bans so, in the end, the future IS borderless.
As for Gattuso, not the Milan player but the forum member, he was claiming that when there were less foreigners in serie A Italy won a world cup in '82. Well, the foreigners' invasion started 10-15 years later and why did Italy win NOTHING in the meantime? Simply because their national team is still sitting on that old defensive mentality that is the hallmark of Italian football. Some club teams like Milan have evolved in their approach to the game but the Italian National Team is still a catenaccio lover, more or less. They won in 82 and before that because that style was still applicable then but today you need something more than just sit on your arse for 80 min and try playing for 10. In Spain 1982, Italy passed the groups with 3 draws but back then it was 1 point for a tie and 2 pts for a win. In modern footbal it is 3pts for a win so 3 draws won't get you anywhere but in the backyard of Europe, where Italy actually is in the moment.
Hopefully Lippi has some other ideas for the INT.
It's not completely true... Italy did well in Euro 00 when they played very defensive, and nevertheless got to the final only to loose in extra-time. And what about Greece??? they are a defensive team and still look at them, they are the champions of europe. IMO Italy is one of the best teams in the world, and that match against Sweden was a good performance... Italy is just unlucky, what can I say.
P.S. Chile passed the group stage in WC 98 after 3 draws (against Italy, Cameroon and Austria).
zlatanov
16-08-2004, 15:47
It's not completely true... Italy did well in Euro 00 when they played very defensive, and nevertheless got to the final only to loose in extra-time. And what about Greece??? they are a defensive team and still look at them, they are the champions of europe. IMO Italy is one of the best teams in the world, and that match against Sweden was a good performance... Italy is just unlucky, what can I say.
P.S. Chile passed the group stage in WC 98 after 3 draws (against Italy, Cameroon and Austria).
Well, I was thinking of adding Greece in my last post because I knew somebody will bring this up. Greece is a one time wonder so to call it. So, whn they do something like that again, I will gladly discuss it in greater depth. for now I will only say that many of the big favourites, including Italy, had their players play a LOT of games at the very top level so virtually no team among Italy, Spain, France, England, Holland, Germany and Czech Rep. had their players in top form - they were already exhausted from having played 50-60 games throughout the season.
As for Italy, yeah they did play well in the Euro but:
1) they didn't play so defensively under Zoff
2) they are Italy, after all, with some of the best players in the world and having great players may cover up some crappy tactics
3) do you by any chance remember how they beat Holland (after the Dutch missed 2 penalties in regular time and lost the game on penalties - kind of lucky, ha) and lost to France - after they were 1 goal up, Italy decided to get back in defence, how uncharacteristic for them, and let the "wolf in the cottage," so to speak.
Their decision to defend the 1 goal lead made it very easy for France to steal the cup from Italy.
Well I remember how Del-Pierro had two great one-on-one opportunities to score, and how he blew it (I'm sure he had couple sleapless nights after that).
And sure I remember that match against the dutch..... Italy had luck that match, didn't have much luck in the final though.
And what about Porto??? This boring "ugly" team... they won the CL (how the hell that happened, I still don't unerstamd... Porto=Greece) because of their defence play.
zlatanov
16-08-2004, 16:02
Now, back on Gilardino:
This is frm tgcom.it
Basically the story is that Roma have accused Milan of coming in between them and Gilardino and messing up his transfer to Roma. Galliani responds that Milan has the same right as any other team and shoudn't and cannot be accused of anything illegal. He also, like never before, claims that there has never been a contact between Milan and parma for the player and there is no way Gila could come to Milan for we already have 4 strikers fighting for 2 spots. Of course he missed the possibility that Gila could come to Milan next season :tong:
This is basically everything new I have read for Gila, so far.
zlatanov
16-08-2004, 16:08
Well I remember how Del-Pierro had two great one-on-one opportunities to score, and how he blew it (I'm sure he had couple sleapless nights after that).
And sure I remember that match against the dutch..... Italy had luck that match, didn't have much luck in the final though.
And what about Porto??? This boring "ugly" team... they won the CL (how the hell that happened, I still don't unerstamd... Porto=Greece) because of their defence play.
OK, when they (Porto) do it again, we will discuss it for now there is no point in arguing for things like that. Facts speak for itself - Italy has done NOTHING special since the ages of defensive football, despite the galore of qulaity players they have on the team.
It is very shallow, to compare Italy with Greace and Porto just because these last two don't play like Brazil. There are many factors that can influence the result of a game, circumstances (others call it luck, I don't believe in luck) being one of them. Greece won becase all the big teams were really exhausted and played like crap, Porto won against who? Real, Milan, no they took advantage of the circumstances i.e. no BIG teams to pay with.
Tell me zlatanov, every example I'll bring u'll tell me "ok when that happens again we will discuss it"? I didn't compare Greece and Porto with Italy, u said that u can't win trophies by playing defencive and I used that 2 teams to prove the otherwise.. ok.
And I think this exhustion wasn't a big factor in euro, at least not as in WC 02.
CL got cut, and now it 4 games shorter than what it was 2 years ago. And if u didn't notice no big teams was involved higher than quarters (Porto, Depor, Chelsea and Monaco made to the semis) so all the big-shots like Zidane or Nedved got planty time to rest. I think in that terms of fitness and as u say "exhaustion" Greece was equal to most of the teams and specialy to the Chezh Rep. and Portugal.
I agree with u that "circumstances" play a major role in football, and sometimes average teams hit the black-jack.
Maldini_Sheva
16-08-2004, 18:34
Ok stop it. The main point is any defensive team wouldnot won any championship. I was so sad to see Italy got beat in that Golden Goal from Trez, but that's not only canna's fault. This is all Italian style game. Why do they have to defend after they lead?? If they attack all the time, I don't see any team will score against them. Remember at that time, They still had Maldini, and they had the best defence in the world.
Ok Back to the Topic, So is it means that Galliani pulled ourselves out of Gilardino race??
Brazil are the most successful international team and its not a coincidence that they are the most offencive team. Milan have shown the Azzuri that there is no longer room for cantenacio in football if there ever was.
Maldini_Sheva
16-08-2004, 18:56
well, In my mind is, even if you've superb defence, it means nothing. the will keep attacking u and one day that defence will be collapse. not tha I'm saying that we'll buy alot of attacking characteristic player, but rather that make a team more offensive than plaing too much defence, like Italy NT. Well, they should learn from Milan. We already have the foundation, Hard Rock defensive force. but if we get attacking all the time like the Depor game, we'll be collapse, even w/ Jaap addition or others.
zlatanov
16-08-2004, 19:11
well, In my mind is, even if you've superb defence, it means nothing. the will keep attacking u and one day that defence will be collapse. not tha I'm saying that we'll buy alot of attacking characteristic player, but rather that make a team more offensive than plaing too much defence, like Italy NT. Well, they should learn from Milan. We already have the foundation, Hard Rock defensive force. but if we get attacking all the time like the Depor game, we'll be collapse, even w/ Jaap addition or others.
Exactly the point I was trying to make.
Now, back to the Gilardino topic. Knowing Galliani I wouldn't take that as "Milan pulling out of the race" no not at all. He just answered questions in his usual style denying everything, even that white is white, and also said that Milan has any right to chase Gilardino and nothing in this would be against the rules of the game. This last one was in response to allegations from Roma that Milan is behind the prolonged contract of Gila with parma and thus going behind Roma's back in their negotiations.
Galliani simply said that Roma and Milan have equal rights in trying to sign Gilardino and denied any Milan involvement in his contract extension with Parma. Underlined this by stating that Milan are more than covered in attack this season. But all reports are for Gila being destined for Milan from NEXT season and not this one.
Basically, a typical Galliani cloud of dust in the eyes of the reporters.
Maldini_Sheva
16-08-2004, 20:03
Hopefully, Galliani will do the same like Nesta transfer. :D :D
Milan deny Gilardino claims
17.8 || scharatz || $source
Source: Football Italia
Milan have dismissed speculation that they have been in talks with Parma regarding Alberto Gilardino.
Some stories in Italy claim that the Rossoneri have shown an interest which has hampered Roma’s attempts to sign the striker.
But Vice-president Adriano Galliani has today insisted that the Under-21 international is not a target.
"Milan have never opened negotiations for the Parma player," stated Galliani. "However, if we wanted to then we wouldn’t need to explain our actions to anyone."
Whispers have suggested that Milan have put pressure on the Gialloblu to keep the player for one more season – much to the annoyance of Roma. Yet Galliani rubbished that theory.
"All that has happened is that one club has decided to not sell a player to another club," he continued.
"I see no reason why we should look to block the transfers of any Roma targets."
Milan were linked with Gilardino given the fitness problems of international striker Filippo Inzaghi.
"We already have four strikers at this club," added Galliani. "They are Andriy Shevchenko, Inzaghi, Jon Dahl Tomasson and Hernan Crespo.
"In other words, we have four players for only two first team places. That is more than enough for us."
IMO Gilardino is the next main Italian striker (next Del-Piero or Vieri if u want), and if he'll come play for milan that would be fantastic.
I really hope Galliani is lying, as usual :D
ACMILAN1983
17-08-2004, 10:26
Why doesn't someone just create a new thread in the discussion forum to discuss whether Catennacio has a place in football or not and whether attacking football is better or not.
Onto Gilardinho, I smell something fishy from Galliani. I don't think we'll get him this summer, but I can picture him with us next summer.
ACMILAN1983
17-08-2004, 10:28
Could the moderators merge this with the transfer thread.
zlatanov
17-08-2004, 11:01
[QUOTE=ACMILAN1983]Why doesn't someone just create a new thread in the discussion forum to discuss whether Catennacio has a place in football or not and whether attacking football is better or not.
Onto Gilardinho, I smell something fishy from Galliani. I don't think we'll get him this summer, but I can picture him with us next summer.[/QUOTE
I don't think any of the rumours on the net suggest that Milan might be getting Gila this summer but from next season. As for Galliani and "fishy statements" I think I have heard that one before. :diablo:
zlatanov
17-08-2004, 11:32
Could the moderators merge this with the transfer thread.
What are you talking about, this is the transfers FORUM and there is no other thread on Gilardino. The transfer thread is on any transfers and no particular ones.
As for Gila, Maldini just said, quoted on calciomercato.com, that Gilardino has shown on the Olimpics that he is above the rest and is definitely ready to play for a big club. Hopefully, that was a hint. ;)
I already merged this thread, couple of the posts above were made in the Discussions forum.
I am with those that believe Gila will end up here sometime in his career but it won't be now
ACMILAN1983
17-08-2004, 13:34
What are you talking about, this is the transfers FORUM and there is no other thread on Gilardino. The transfer thread is on any transfers and no particular ones.
As for Gila, Maldini just said, quoted on calciomercato.com, that Gilardino has shown on the Olimpics that he is above the rest and is definitely ready to play for a big club. Hopefully, that was a hint. ;)
Sorry, Dil Dil had posted a new thread in the discussion forum and I asked for it to be merged here seeing as most are already discussing here.
rezag was very quick to merge them, I guess my request looks quite silly now. :D
zlatanov
17-08-2004, 15:48
Sorry, Dil Dil had posted a new thread in the discussion forum and I asked for it to be merged here seeing as most are already discussing here.
rezag was very quick to merge them, I guess my request looks quite silly now. :D
Oh, sorry my bad. :dontkn: :kotc:
Maldini_Sheva
18-08-2004, 13:52
I heard today that Milan will loan out both Collo and Pozzi to Lazio. Well, this is a good news for our future, as I don't see that Lazio could buy those two, then they also can gained a very valuable experience.
But I'm start to worry w/ our striker department. So far we have four great strikers, but Pippo seems that he'll can't make it til next season, and I've just realized that we're gonna set to play more than 34 games in seri A. So if we're about to loan Pozzi, and Pippo still hampered by this ankle injury too, we're only have 3 strikers. Also, with alot of games like this( Seri A, Champions League, Italian Cup), I think our strikers will be drained and tired. So I think we need 1 more stiker, either we loan him in or buy him. Unless Pippo recover, I think we still need 1 more striker. :D :D :D
d12easheva
27-08-2004, 12:35
i prefer cassano or torres but of course i wouldn't say no to gilardino. but no matter who not for this year
cassano?? i don't think so!! rafael van der vart maybe?!
20m euros for Gila? And Torres would be twice expensive since Chelski involved? Do you like it realized?
i think gila would come for something like 12M ... since parma are in serious trouble and their season is going really bad so they must offload him. i hope he comes, that if crespo doesnt manage to find his form.
AC Milan sensation: Gilardino agrees personal terms
tribalfootball.com - October 16, 2004
AC Milan have agreed personal terms with Parma star Alberto Gilardino.
Gazzetta dello Sport says Milan have agreed a contract with the Italian international worth an initial £700,000-a-year.
The Serie A champs will seek a transfer agreement with Parma in January to ward off rival interest from Real Madrid and Manchester Unietd.
Milan are prepared to pay £15 million for the young striker.
FORZA MILAN
Woow, it feels good, isnt it...
Gila is a future of Milan and of whole Italy, I mean NT......
he can improve only in club which participates in highest level of football -- AC Milan :D
yeah i was just about to post that news thread
-------------------------------------dida------------------------------------------
-----cafu-------------nesta---------------------stam-----------------maldini------
-------------------------------------pirlo------------------------------------------
------------gattuso---------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------seedorf---------------
-----------------------------------kaka-------------------------------------------
--------------------shevchenko------------------gilardino--------------------------
thesaint
16-10-2004, 09:49
tribalfootball is a crapy site so I wont belive that eventhough its very possible he to become a red & black ;)
this is one of the few times i convince myself that triballfootball is a very reliable site.
ACMILAN1983
16-10-2004, 17:25
well, other places have mentioned Gilar to us but Galliani has refuted it already
meaning we'll get him ;)
tardelli_jr
16-10-2004, 21:33
Gilardino Milan switch?
SBS
Italian giants AC Milan have reportedly agreed to terms with Parma's international striking sensation; Alberto Gilardino.
Gazzetta dello Sport reports Milan are prepared to pay Parma $A37 million for the highly rated striker, who recently broke into Marcello Lippi's Italian national team setup.
The newspaper further reports that Milan have agreed to pay Gilardino himself an initial wage of $A1.8 million annually.
AC Milan plan to secure the transfer in the January window.
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thats from www.theworldgame.com.au/ which is a rather reliable site
BaggioForever
16-10-2004, 22:20
yea..agree with rae...the future of italy's NT strikeforce will b in milan...cant wait for him to mature and do sum miracle for italy. Milan will nurture him no doubts!~ :diablo: :2dance:
Yeh at first i saw this rumour on tribalfootball.com which is one of the most UNreliable sites around (although i visit it everyday for new rumours :D) but i saw it on Australias leading football website www.theworldgame.com.au and i cpuldnt help but get a little excited.
I would though, feel much better if Gilardino rediscovers his 2003-2004 form because this season he hasnt looked like a 25m Euro striker.
And whether Gilardino is at his best or not, ide like Cassano instead - he is class but there is a slight risk of him causeing unwanted vibes in the dressing room.
Giovanni
17-10-2004, 07:12
Gila has scored 40 and i point out 40 goals in the last season: it's AMAZING. If you " see the goal" as we say in Italy, you will always score , so i wouldn't be worried about the usual "one season wonder worry". It's simply a natural quality, and if you play with players like Kakà, Seedorf, Pirlo, Sheva the job is smooth
this is one of the few times i convince myself that triballfootball is a very reliable site.
psichologists call it random shot into a target......hahahaha.....
......you should hit that target someday....IMO
:rotfl:
psichologists call it random shot into a target......hahahaha.....
......you should hit that target someday....IMO
:rotfl:
:u56:
Gila has scored 40 and i point out 40 goals in the last season: it's AMAZING. If you " see the goal" as we say in Italy, you will always score , so i wouldn't be worried about the usual "one season wonder worry". It's simply a natural quality, and if you play with players like Kakà, Seedorf, Pirlo, Sheva the job is smooth
on a personal level this season he still looks good, its parma who are doing bad, hes a starter for italy... thats really something, especially when on form strikers are also on the bench like di vaio, cassano, toni.. etc
I say we do get gilardino this january what do you guys think?, he is awesome :djn:
there are many thread about january transfers and especially about Gila, so admins please merge them.
;)
Milan must go all out 2 get Gilardino.He should form a devastating partnership with Sheva.Besides,at such a young age he has shown that he can handle pressure and criticisms.He has that keen sense for goal.It seems near impossible that we won't get him in January as Berlusconi has closed the transfer window for Milan.
Whatever the case,Milan must get him before any clubs snatch him.
FORZA MILAN!!!!!
FORZA MILAN!!!!!
FORZA MILAN!!!!!
From www.channel4.com
postive words for us from alberto:
Parma hotshot Alberto Gilardino seems to have his eyes on a transfer to Italian giants Milan.
The youngster has been heavily linked with the Rossoneri and he now admits he’d be happy to join the San Siro outfit.
"It is my dream to play alongside Andriy Shevchenko," he told Controcampo. "I think I would do well alongside him.
"I could play as the main target man, while he could come from a deeper position. There would be nothing better than partnering Sheva.
"He definitely deserves to win the Golden Ball. He always seems to score goals. He’s the best striker around."
Milan are believed to be interested in the Azzurri ace even if the club have recently ruled out any January signings.
But Gilardino has seemingly opened the door for a switch as soon as the transfer window opens in the New Year.
"Parma and myself have come to an agreement that I will remain until June but football is a strange game," he stated.
Milan do have offensive problems given that only Shevchenko is regularly finding the back of the net.
Pippo Inzaghi is sidelined until February with injury, while both Hernan Crespo and Jon Dahl Tomasson are struggling for form.
YES WE GOTTA HAVE HIM NOW :de3:
Sheva7_Evo
23-11-2004, 08:06
he wants to come.
he is italy's future.
he is the best replacement for super pippo.
he is established in serie a.
of course Gila is the man!
coming in Jan? if crespo is truely woken up... Gila, as well as the rest of us, will have to wait.
Giovanni
23-11-2004, 08:19
Gila is the most underrated player in europe..so many strikers reach soooo much more hype than him
i give you some stats about gilardino:
his last season, the first one as regular, bagan at parma after adriano's injury, which roughly happened 12 months ago.
so far has scored in serie a and italian NT (both under 21 and senior) almost 50 goals!!!!!! 25 in serie a last season (second top scorer one goal behind Shevchenko), so far this season 6/7 with a minor Parma without his best players, countless goals (almost 20) with Italian NT leading them as top scorer to U21 european title and third place at Olympic games
Why is he so underrated? When he will partnership along with Sheva (almost done deal) he will become the new Van Nistlerooy..not joking! The guy scores in serie a with an astonishing ease: stop, one second and goal from every position inside the box and even outside.Plus has showed to score when people expect him to do it, in other words he's not a smal teams terminator and high stage's choker
I really hope that your words will become true Gio! I would love to see Gilardino sign with us, I can think of few if any others that I would rather see us sign. Gila is already a proven force in Serie A to say the least and will be able to develop even further if he would join us. Italy´s NT will most certainly count on Gilas services for a decade to come and so should we. Envy, is what the others will experience when the see the headlines "Gilardino signs with Milan!". I just hope we get him now, in january.
So what is your take on that Gio, is there any chance of Milan making a move for Gilardino already in January?
ACMILAN1983
23-11-2004, 09:17
25 in serie a last season (second top scorer one goal behind Shevchenko)
I'm sure he scored 23 didn't he and Sheva got 24??
Well, the guy is a quality player. Like I have said, my personal choices would be Adriano or Tevez, but Gila is more than welcome as far as I'm concerned.
Giovanni
23-11-2004, 09:49
sorry i gave numbers and stats based on memory but i can mistake a few goals..anyway 50, 45 or 48 doesn't make any difference..gila is too good to miss him
Source: Football Italia
Parma hotshot Alberto Gilardino seems to have his eyes on a transfer to Italian giants Milan.
The youngster has been heavily linked with the Rossoneri and he now admits he’d be happy to join the San Siro outfit.
"It is my dream to play alongside Andriy Shevchenko," he told Controcampo. "I think I would do well alongside him.
"I could play as the main target man, while he could come from a deeper position. There would be nothing better than partnering Sheva.
"He definitely deserves to win the Golden Ball. He always seems to score goals. He’s the best striker around."
Milan are believed to be interested in the Azzurri ace even if the club have recently ruled out any January signings.
Giovanni
05-12-2004, 04:23
After the yesterday's goal i think there aren't doubts anymore-.alone he put pressure on our whole defence and when he got one clear goal chance he scored it
Gilardino must be signed, he is only 22 besides that there are huge doubts about Inzaghi's fitness!!!
Reports say that Gila is already part of Milan's next year squad, but I don't take these reports as the perfect truth
ACMILAN1983
05-12-2004, 08:40
After the yesterday's goal i think there aren't doubts anymore-.alone he put pressure on our whole defence and when he got one clear goal chance he scored it
Were there any doubts before yesterdays match in the first place?
Giovanni
05-12-2004, 09:10
Were there any doubts before yesterdays match in the first place?
maybe i confuse it with XT where i'm sure somebody questioned the fact gila is merely a one season wonder..but i know for sure some MIlan fans weren't totally convinced about it
ACMILAN1983
05-12-2004, 11:32
maybe i confuse it with XT where i'm sure somebody questioned the fact gila is merely a one season wonder..but i know for sure some MIlan fans weren't totally convinced about it
I see...well, I'll admit to questioning his ability two years ago when I first started seeing him for Parma, but those questions were answered in quite a way since then.
---Gilardino---Shevchenko---
------------Kaka'-----------
hmm.. what a combination!!!
btw, how many assists that Kaka' needs to serve those two predators? :D
Maestro_Dio
05-12-2004, 22:30
---Gilardino---Shevchenko---
------------Kaka'-----------
hmm.. what a combination!!!
btw, how many assists that Kaka' needs to serve those two predators? :D
And wait until we replace Inzaghi or Tomasson with Torres. Three killer machines in the same team will make both Man U or Real strikers seem like primary school kids.
12/6/2004 12:17:00 PM
Milan coach Carlo Ancelotti has confirmed that he wants to sign Parma striker Alberto Gilardino.
The youngster netted against the Rossoneri on Sunday, before Milan hit back with two late goals to win the game.
"It would be a great signing. He was able alone to make things difficult for us," Ancelotti told ’La Repubblica’.
Any deal would be likely to take place in the summer.
Issue: Goal.com (www.goal.com)
And wait until we replace Inzaghi or Tomasson with Torres. Three killer machines in the same team will make both Man U or Real strikers seem like primary school kids.
hey hey... too strong speech... Ruud, Roon, Ole etc. are not bad strikers at all ;)
Immortal
11-12-2004, 12:07
from channel4.com
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Milan 'book' Gilardino move
Newspapers in Italy maintain that Milan will pay the first instalment of their offer for Alberto Gilardino in January to stave off any other potential buyers.
The latest reports were sparked by the visit of Parma director Arrigo Sacchi to the Rossoneri headquarters on Friday.
It is well known that the Parma striker is a prime target for Coach Carlo Ancelotti, especially with Pippo Inzaghi, Jon Dahl Tomasson and Hernan Crespo struggling with repeated injury problems over the past year.
The Gialloblu are more than willing to sell at the end of the season due to their financial worries, but must evaluate the interest from Juventus, Inter, Roma and overseas outfits in the Spanish Liga and Premiership.
Milan are known to be the favourites thanks to a number of factors, including the strong transfer ties between the two clubs.
It’s claimed they have agreed to hand over the first instalment of £7m in January as a deposit, then the cash sum of £9m will be paid in June to complete the transfer.
The Italian press also suggests the international will have his current £700,000 a season salary doubled for a contract tying him to the San Siro until 2010.
i hope we dun end up payin alot of money for him
ACMILAN1983
12-12-2004, 00:01
well, according to the report, we'll be paying around £16m for him. Quite a lot, but not surprising to me really
AC_Merda
12-12-2004, 02:27
Sheva and Gilaradino? Quite a fearsome duo that few teams would be able to match.
Maldini_Forever
12-12-2004, 05:41
i like that signing ..... keep signing local players !!!!!
we need a young talented defender though ..... need to regeneration by now .... b4 its too late
BaggioForever
12-12-2004, 07:05
maybe gila scored against us to prove something? :dontkn: :D
It's NO a 100% official news but it's more than 80% TRUE that Parma's forward Alberto Gilardino will wear the new AC MILAN 2005-2006's T-Shirt.
Mr. Galliani payed an half of money to Parma to keep Gilardino in Milan next season. (there're no doubts about that, coz there was an article few days ago on "Gazzetta dello Sport" newspaper that explained this negotiation!!!)
...so u're WELCOME to the DEVIL HOME, Gilardino!!! :grinser: :devf:
Giovanni
13-12-2004, 11:25
ciao senti qui le cose funzionano così: non apriamo solitamente un thread ogni nuova news che viene pubblicata sennò ci sarebbe un caos allucinante, quindi per favore (ovviamente non potevi saperlo) guarda se ci sono nuovi post aperti prima di postare
grazie :)
okay AL CAPONE, scusi!
piacere, sono Don Vito Corleone! :diablo:
Giovanni
13-12-2004, 11:36
okay AL CAPONE, scusi!
piacere, sono Don Vito Corleone! :diablo:
:bri: minghia un altro picciotto ;) :devil:
If rumours/news are true and we both getting Gilardino and Crespo, then where does that leave JDT? I am getting worried that he will be transferred in the summer (and I really like the guy)
I would like to know how quick he is. The first real time i saw him play was in the Olympics and he didn't look that quick then. But hopefully he's faster than i remember.
ACMILAN1983
13-12-2004, 16:57
I would like to know how quick he is. The first real time i saw him play was in the Olympics and he didn't look that quick then. But hopefully he's faster than i remember.
well, he outpaced Cafu (who is no slouch) the odd time in the Parma-Milan match, so I assume he is reasonably quick
If rumours/news are true and we both getting Gilardino and Crespo, then where does that leave JDT? I am getting worried that he will be transferred in the summer (and I really like the guy)
i hope JDT stays and pippo leaves
Giovanni
13-12-2004, 18:24
If rumours/news are true and we both getting Gilardino and Crespo, then where does that leave JDT? I am getting worried that he will be transferred in the summer (and I really like the guy)
if there one to worry it's pippo, who's a first striker, with crespo and gila both first strikers as well
tomasson is a seconda punta therefore a different role
yep, Pippo is a man who deserves to be sold next summer.... I hope he enjoyed that time wit us but now he loox a bit too old .........
i think tomasson will go before pippo. pippo has an unique bond with the club and is a better player though tomasson has too performed well for us
"yep, Pippo is a man who deserves to be sold next summer.... I hope he enjoyed that time wit us but now he loox a bit too old ........."
Please explain to me why it is that Pippo Inzaghi deserves to be sold in the coming summer! I guess we all have different stands but I simply can´t understand how someone can say that Filippo deserves to be sold, if anything after what he has done for us he deserves respect and recognition which is something that I´m sure Milans management feels aswell. We might sign Crespo or possibly Gilardino, either way Pippo remains!!
I admit that I´m a big supporter of Filippo so it is only natural that I want him to remain with us, the thing is though that I miss him more then ever now. I always picture Pippos goals when I think about Milan. Why? Well, he is the only one who doesn´t look like a professional when he scores, he looks like me, like a fan - 100% pure passion!!! Players with such an emotional attachment to a club are crucial, injured or not they still leave their mark on the squad. Return soon Filippo and score so I´m not alone with a face that looks like someone in labor. ;)
Forza Milan!!! :3band:
&
Forza Filippo "Pippo" Inzaghi!!! :rone:
I agree with Mange :)
When fit, Pippo has rarely let us down. Too dump him for Crespo or Gilardino is foolishness IMO, and very unlikely given Milan's tranfer strategy. Regardless of my opinion I THINK that one of two things will happen;
1) Crespo OR Gilardino OR Torres will be bought
2) Crespo and Gilardino OR Torres will be bought with JDT departing
I would prefer option number 1, but that is just my opinion. I may be wrong.
Well, pippo does great deed for us but time is very fast and it affects players as well as other humans. None is eternal or permanent. If we look form the financial side of this affair selling Pippo would gain us money. Concidering he is not the first youth and wont play more than 5 years IMO. Signing Gila or Torres[or even Cespo] would be great investment into our future...
Giovanni
15-12-2004, 08:43
Guys the point is not "having a go" on Pippo but i wonder if we'll keep Pippo, Crespo, Gilardino all together..they are 3 first strikers
Tomasson has proved to be very useful and i'd let him go just in case we sign Torres which is an outstanding player IMO
Anyway the point is: we cannot have 3 first strikers and just 1 seconda punta
Giovanni
17-12-2004, 05:25
Yesterday he scored a nice goal, then he missed a penalty
Btw the goal is very nice
Anyway the point is: we cannot have 3 first strikers and just 1 seconda punta
Agreed, that's why I reluctantly like the idea of Cassano. Anyway, IMO it is either Crespo, Gila or Torres.
Giovanni
17-12-2004, 08:19
Rumours in Italy suggest Cassano is not welcomed by the Old Guard such as maldini, Costacurta and all the senators
i think its gila... not anyone else
i think pippo might be best to look elsewhere aswell. :S
it's a shame he never fully got to show his worth here and he can no doubt still be useful but i think he's be edged out next season.
whats the betting his sale will come back to haunt us, I could still see him grabbing a good 15+ goals at a small club.
Giovanni
20-12-2004, 04:34
Ok, the players sure to be with us are:
-Shevchenko
-Gilardino (it's done, it's sure)
the great question marks are :
-Tomasson
-Pippo
-Crespo
who'll stay? who will leave? don't think they all will stay..if we want to keep a balanced attack we must send away a first striker cause we are bringing in one (Gila)
so the choice is between Crespo and Pippo
Crespo has different qualities from Gila therefore he would complete better the choice, while Gila is a young and better technical and all rounded Inzaghi
The choice seems to be Inzaghi, seeking this logic, but i think at the end it'll be Tomasson for a matter of financial counts:
he arrived as free agentr, therefore not payed, and will be sold for 13 millions roughly. It's a great Plusvalence.
Don't know anyway, it's all so confused though
Why do we buy all these goalgetter/central strikers? Honestly I don't think we need them.
We need more Kaka's.
Chevanton is still possible, Valenicia would sell Vicente for 15-18m pound to a foreign team.
The choice seems to be Inzaghi, seeking this logic, but i think at the end it'll be Tomasson for a matter of financial counts:
he arrived as free agentr, therefore not payed, and will be sold for 13 millions roughly. It's a great Plusvalence.
what? ... selling tomasson for 13 million is no different for selling pippo for that same amount if not more, the board wont look at it like that, they wont smile because they made a profit of 13M concerning the date we signed him... whe cannot compare our selling price with our buying price ... come january we will have the same profit wether its pippo or crespo or tomasson leaving.
vicente... awwww man... i love himmmmmm.. if he must leave valencia then WE MUST GET HIMMMMMM ... and play a christmas tree formation with him on the left and seedorf just behind kaka roaming down the midfield
:nunu: Too many without Pippo in their hearts around, sigh...
FORZA, FORZA, FORZA Inzaghi!!!
:respect:
did you see with sacchi's appointment to real they're planning to go after gilardino.
I get sick of Real rumours though, how many strikers have they been linked with this year? robinho, adriano, gilardino etc etc.
Giovanni
22-12-2004, 09:58
what? ... selling tomasson for 13 million is no different for selling pippo for that same amount if not more, the board wont look at it like that, they wont smile because they made a profit of 13M concerning the date we signed him... whe cannot compare our selling price with our buying price ... come january we will have the same profit wether its pippo or crespo or tomasson leaving.
vicente... awwww man... i love himmmmmm.. if he must leave valencia then WE MUST GET HIMMMMMM ... and play a christmas tree formation with him on the left and seedorf just behind kaka roaming down the midfield
where does such a great winger fit into our game system? We don't rely on winger like a pure 4-4-2 but more on great full backs such as cafu or maybe jankulovski..
our winger is a player that can accept the bench, not a superstar
:nunu: Too many without Pippo in their hearts around, sigh...
FORZA, FORZA, FORZA Inzaghi!!!
:respect:
...I can not forget this Inzaghi... :( (http://wall.by.ru:81/zip/player800/inzaghi4.jpg)
Giovanni
22-12-2004, 10:09
:nunu: Too many without Pippo in their hearts around, sigh...
FORZA, FORZA, FORZA Inzaghi!!!
:respect:
Listen: when we speak about business , it's business.
It was a rational reasonement about the chance for our strikers to leave: the choices are two:
1) we keep 5 strikers
2)we sell one
We have never had 5 strikers, so one of them probably will leave. The rest of posts was merely a consideration on who's the more likely to leave
Now, i heard that Crespo was about to be confirmed from Galliani's mouth itself, so the choice gets thiner:
a) Tomasson
b) Inzaghi
My point was that bringing in Gilardino a pure frist striker Inzaghi is the more likely to leave, but Tomasson is liekly too, because his selling would mean a great plusvalence of more than 10 millions
It's not matter of heart, it's matter of make a rational analisys
inzaghi would also cost more than tomasson plus tomasson is a player who can accept the bench, inzaghi wouldnt, besides JDT is better also.
as for vicente, we could change the formation like i said... i would rather commit suicide than to see him go to inter, he is such a good player.. this is how we should look like if we sign him
----------------------------------dida--------------------------------------------
-----cafu------------stam-------------------nesta--------------maldini------------
-------------------------------pirlo-----------------------------------------------
----------gattuso-----------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------seedorf------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------vicente---------------
---------------------kaka---------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------shevchenko-------------------------------
aceventura
22-12-2004, 17:53
I believe That Thomason will leave us at the Summer but all this depends on the rest of the seasons' results of Thomasons' and Crespos' Games.
If Hernan will play the way he did last month than with no doubt we will sign him no matter how will it cost. Pippo made a speacial realationship with the Club so just a troumatic injery will make him leave us.
Gila wont stay in parma for next season and i believe we already got the agreement to buy him from Parma so personaly i prefer Thomason to leave than Crespo.
Anyway its still a big question if we sign some striker because we already got strikers that wont accept to much bench time so i dont believe that we will pay around 20 millions euros for not reguler player and if Crespo will continue his great form so no one can promise Gila the first team shirt.
Maltese Charlie
23-12-2004, 02:37
Below you should find some news from "La Gazzetta dello Sport" which I found very interesting about this subject.
Milan, nella prossima stagione parte Tomasson e arriva Gilardino
Mer 22 Dic, 1:44 PM
Il Milan sta programmando la prossima campagna acquisti-cessioni. L'amministratore delegato rossonero Adriano Galliani ha annunciato che la società non si muoverà sul mercato di gennaio e l'attenzione é perciò tutta incentrata nel calciomercato della prossima estate.Per quanto riguarda i portiere verrà lasciato partire Abbiati che da tempo non trova più spazio nella squadra rossonera. Al suo posto, come riserva di Dida, sono candidati Angelo Peruzzi, Carlo Cudicini e Pablo Cavallero. In difesa é certo l'addio di Kaladze mentre é dubbia la conferma di Pancaro e Simic. Per quanto riguarda i nuovi acquisti il primo della lista rossonera é Davide Bonera.A centrocampo non verrà rinnovato il contratto in scadenza di Serginho. Al suo posto potrebbe arrivare uno tra Santiago Solari e Marek Jankulovski. Per quanto riguarda il capitolo attaccanti saranno confermati Shevchenko, Crespo e Inzaghi. Il sacrificato sarà Tomasson. Il grande acquisto sarà Alberto Gilardino. E' seguito anche Fernando Torres.(Gazzetta dello Sport)
aceventura... his name is tomasson .. or JDT
maltese charlie.. can u please translate that to english?!
Hm, Real is also interested in Gilardino...
read more (http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/dec24e.html)
MilanManiac04
24-12-2004, 11:36
Ronaldo To Milan Rumours Back In Full Force
12/24/2004 12:27:00 PM
Italian daily La Gazzetta dello Sport is reporting that Real Madrid might opt to sell Ronaldo to AC Milan in exchange for Gilardino.
The man behind what would be an incredible deal, especially given Ronaldo’s Interista past, is Real Madrid’s new technical director Arrigo Sacchi.
Sacchi is a huge admirer of Gilardino, who he brought to Parma.
It appears the Rossoneri already have signed the Parma striker for next season, even though there is no official confirmation on this.
If the operation takes place, it will happen next June.
What do u guys think, would u either prefer ronaldo or gilardino if this happens this would be a big surprise, but lookin towards the future gilardino looks the better option.
This is from www.goal.com
Giovanni
24-12-2004, 11:53
Gilardino
Ronaldo is a legendary player, but his will to committ to team's service is very short and gila, instead, would bring us all the enthusiasm to be in a glorious club..
gila will make us winning loads of throphies alongside shevchenko and the future shevchenko has been already discovered: FERNANDO TORRES, who is said to enthusiasm Braida, the discoverer of Shevchenko
It is said in Italy that once Braida and Galliani went to a Dinamo match to watch Sheva and that match Sheva played very badly..Galliani told Braida: " Ariedo, are you sure you want to bring this youngster to Milano?" .."Trust me, Adriano" replied Braida " i'm watching this guy since many time and he's and will become a great champion"
hmmm tough one to call... i think that ronaldo is one of the worlds best 3 players given that the whole team plays good, but when the team is looking bad he plays just as bad
gilardino has his bad and good times and doesnt necessarily depend on the whole teams situation
ronaldo is fat these days.
Peachtot
26-12-2004, 02:32
Ronnie or Gila ?
Ronnie still better than Gila right now.
But, 1 year later, who know?
ACMILAN1983
26-12-2004, 08:50
Gila is probably better for us as he has a longer future ahead of him and its unlikely he'll flop at Milan as he's proven himself in Italy at Parma where his support hasn't been the best.
In saying that, at the moment, I think Ronaldo is a better player
Giovanni
27-12-2004, 11:37
enjoy this video of gila..i will look if i find some more
http://www.raisport.rai.it/pub/static/27200/golunder21_1.mpg
I think that Gilardino is great player,but will he have place in Milan???? I don't want that we buy new Rivaldo...
When will Inzaghi get back???
Do you remember of this picture (ACM:Bayern M. 2:1)
Christopher
05-01-2005, 13:19
I read that Milan signed him is this old news . . . the blurb i read said he wasn't too happy to join Milan and that he preffered Juve ( i then pulled a trash can next to desk and puked). I dunno if any of this is correct here is the link . . . don't kill me if this is old news, sorry if it is, but whats Gilardinos deal how strong of a players is he? I can't imagine it would be too good if he isn't happy with Milan . . .
http://www.tribalfootball.com/january/italnews1050105.html
Please look for similar threads before posting new threads, it makes it easier for everybody to follow a particular player or topic :)
PS. never trust Tribal Football, they are about as reliable as the weather in the UK ;)
Christopher
05-01-2005, 13:33
oooops my bad . . . sorry
okay sorry about that
no problem, the mod of this particular forum will merge it with the Gilardino thread :)
As Henrik said, tribalfootball and most other sites can never be trusted. I am still having difficulty believing huge corporate sites manufacturing quotes from players but it happens. The best example for me is soccerage (now goal.com) had Aimar as 'joined' and 'completed' to Milan on their site 2 years ago and it was there for months
here is the Gila thread btw http://www.milanmania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16801
Giovanni
05-01-2005, 13:42
no problem, the mod of this particular forum will merge it with the Gilardino thread :)
:bri: :zany:
:bri: :zany:
Your are quick like the wind Gio :987:
Giovanni
05-01-2005, 15:36
If anyone needed a new confirm i've just heard an interview of Ancelotti:
"hope Gilardino will score tomorrow because it's nicer to play with Scudetto on your jersey"
interpretation: If he hammers Juve it helps Milan to win the Scudetto and play with it on his jersey next year
Basically this is the confirmation he will be rossonero
If anyone needed a new confirm i've just heard an interview of Ancelotti:
"hope Gilardino will score tomorrow because it's nicer to play with Scudetto on your jersey"
interpretation: If he hammers Juve it helps Milan to win the Scudetto and play with it on his jersey next year
Basically this is the confirmation he will be rossonero
Another subtle thing i just found out - milan official website stated a quote from Gilardino... So, is it a little hint or what?? :rock3:
Christopher
05-01-2005, 17:11
If he is signed is this a signal that Milan have found an alternative to Crespo . . .
Giovanni
05-01-2005, 17:32
"Anyone know where to watch a Milan game in Philly?"
Brilliant profile mate
Christopher
05-01-2005, 17:36
"Anyone know where to watch a Milan game in Philly?"
Brilliant profile mate
thanks man
MilanManiac04
05-01-2005, 23:05
Hey guys look at this i found it on the official site:
MILAN - Alberto Gilardino will face Juventus on Thursday. Speaking with Il Giornale, the Parma forward focused on the title challenge and said: ’Milan are stronger and more complete, the club is much more involved. Juventus, however, will fight until the end. It is an exciting challenge, passionate and true.’
So he does like milan and not juve, and hopefully he can do the job for parma and also milan by scoring against juve.These are all little hints showing us that his coming to milan not juve.
Gabrielle
06-01-2005, 00:45
I thought Gila is already a done deal? We'll get him after this season end?
Giovanni
06-01-2005, 04:25
I thought Gila is already a done deal? We'll get him after this season end?
we'll get him before but he will arrive afterwards
we don't wait a summer auction to close this deal, and IMO we've already paid some moneys to Parma, which needs them to stay alive
If he scores the winner against juve tonight we should keep a scudetto medal for him and give it to him when he arrives in the summer!
Gabrielle
06-01-2005, 12:06
If he scores the winner against juve tonight we should keep a scudetto medal for him and give it to him when he arrives in the summer!
I heard he's invisible against Juve :d55: :tong:
Christopher
06-01-2005, 13:15
I heard he's invisible against Juve :d55: :tong:
paired with Sheva he won't be
paired with Sheva he won't be
Exactly. It's hard for Gilardino to produce a lot of goals for a team like Parma. He takes way to much responsability and he seems to think his team-mates aren't good enough. It's very strong to make 23 goals in one season without players like Pirlo, Kaká and Seedorf behind you. He's the one Milan wants and he's the one Milan will get...
hints from official sources aren't worth a thing!
Galliani and co are well known for their smokescreens or bold transfer talk
remember the nesta transfer? we were bound to get canna. I was in italy at that time and on television they even show graphic's with percentages. We were 90% sure to get cannavaro man u 10% and juve had something of 25% to land on nesta while inter had 60% what left man u to have 5% (10% that he could stay with Lazio) and we all know how that ended...
ps: don't ask me how they calculated that, something typical for italy I guess
and don't forget the 'we will either get ronaldo, figo or beckham' speech a summer or two ago
don't belive anything until the player holds the jersey
(look out for fotoshop pic's )
AC-GIOFFRE
07-01-2005, 01:28
Agree on that one. Don't believe anything until you see the player holding the Jersey. Besides do we need another striker. Is Cassano going to stay at ROMA
Cassano I hear is a summer target for (surprise surprise) Juve, but also apparently Real are keen on taking Totti and Cass...
On the Milan side I think its a matter of time, i.e. this summer, before Alberto G is playing along side Sheva. Love to see it happen as he is a different player to Sheva and I think they could be great together.
Milan Want Gilardino Before June
The injury to Filippo Inzaghi has pushed the Rossoneri to bring the young Parma striker to Milan by the end of this week.
Alberto Gilardino’s future is tinted in red and black colours as Milan and Parma seem to have already agreed the-end-of season transfer for the Italian international player. However, recent events have led the Rossoneri to re-consider their position as Pippo Inzaghi got injured again and will miss the next few weeks.
Ancelotti’s side has been far from impressive in the attacking department this season and a further injury to Inzaghi is a setback for Milan who were counting on the former Juve striker to help ease the pressure off Shevchenko and Crespo upfront.
For this reason, Milan are trying to convince Parma to let Gilardino go by the end of the week, before the January transfer market closes down. The Rossoneri are ready to offer Ambrosini and Serginho, who have not played much so far this season, in return for the prolific striker.
Ambrosini and Serginho for Gilardino,that would be a great deal for us.
I think we don't need them anymore,only as a substitute.
i happen to value ambrosini and serginho very highly. i want to keep them in this squad. they are those types of people who never complain. every coach would love to have them. we may need gilardino now, but not at this cost.
Ambrosini will leave before his career ends.
Im pretty sure of that.
He is actually an excellent DM but I dont like him to play unless it is instead of Gattuso.
Having two DM's on the field sucks.
id say sign him as soon as possible after todays result, i dont see any benefit to us in waiting until the summer
can he play in the champion's league for us ? I know he played in the uefa cup, but does that stop him playing the champion's league ? I can't remember if it does or not.
Either way i think we should get him now, either that or get another striker ... Bojinov maybe ?? I know this is just a knee jerk reaction to today's result, but with Inzaghi unlikely to return to form this season, Tomasson struggling and now the injury to Shevchenko ... it only leaves Crespo and he can't score either right now.
maybe we could get someone on loan ? But as the deadline is sometime tomorrow, it doesn't leave alot of time to negotiate anything.
can he play in the champion's league for us ? I know he played in the uefa cup, but does that stop him playing the champion's league ? I can't remember if it does or not.
Nope. He is cup-tied. He represented another club in a European competition. That's that.
Either way i think we should get him now, either that or get another striker ... Bojinov maybe ?? I know this is just a knee jerk reaction to today's result, but with Inzaghi unlikely to return to form this season, Tomasson struggling and now the injury to Shevchenko ... it only leaves Crespo and he can't score either right now.
maybe we could get someone on loan ? But as the deadline is sometime tomorrow, it doesn't leave alot of time to negotiate anything.
Well this is what one has to take into consideration. :) The other day in the debate with Dev I feared this kind of thing could happen while he said the unit is key. I didn't expect Shev to be out so it is even more worse.
We have to deal with what we have now. Sink or swim baby. There is no tomorrow. :gun:
ACMILAN1983
30-01-2005, 20:04
Well this is what one has to take into consideration. :) The other day in the debate with Dev I feared this kind of thing could happen while he said the unit is key.
I still believe that ;)
However, there are some problems right now and they must be dealt with asap.
Buying Gilardinho may be a decent option, but it won't help in CL, so really I don't think he's the best choice at this precise moment.
I still believe that ;)
However, there are some problems right now and they must be dealt with asap.
Buying Gilardinho may be a decent option, but it won't help in CL, so really I don't think he's the best choice at this precise moment.
The problems have been there for quite some time. It's just that it took two consecutive defeats for the majority to acknowledge them. ;)
Hopefully January which was a horrible month has come to an end will result in February and onwards being good months. We have started off even worse to our second part of the season compared to the first part.
Peachtot
31-01-2005, 10:53
No for ambro.
Serginho, dhorasoo, brocchi, JDT are ok for part of exchange
ACMILAN1983
31-01-2005, 12:23
The problems have been there for quite some time. It's just that it took two consecutive defeats for the majority to acknowledge them. ;)
Hopefully January which was a horrible month has come to an end will result in February and onwards being good months. We have started off even worse to our second part of the season compared to the first part.
I agree some problems have been there since the start, but we always made up for them until recently.
anyway, I don't want to go into details as to exactly what I mean, as this thread is about Gilar, not the problems with the side
Real plan Parma takeover?
It’s reported that one of the potential investors interested in buying out bankrupt Parma is Real Madrid chief Florentino Perez.
The Tardini side has lost its main financial backers Parmalat following the financial irregularities scandal that saw former President Calisto Tanzi arrested last year and the bankruptcy tribunal is advertising for new investors.
A Chinese conglomerate has shown an interest, but new reports in the Peninsula suggest that Real Madrid could use Parma as a feeder club.
It would not be the first links between these two sides, as former Gialloblu director Arrigo Sacchi joined Real as a director of football earlier this season.
There are claims that agent Ernesto Bronzetti is taking personal care of the negotiations, as he was also the go-between when the Merengues contacted Sacchi with their job offer.
A financial link between the two sides would also enable Real to have the upper hand in the transfer market for promising stars such as Alberto Gilardino and Daniele Bonera. :eekani: :dconf:
channel4
I hope to see Gilla in Milan in June!!!! :whie: :dconf:
he scored a super goal for Parma againts Inter just now.
he'll score more againts Inter once he joins us too ;)
I hope to see Gilla in Milan in June!!!! :whie: :dconf:
If this time we wont get him following summer then we can call ourselves the Losers, nothing else. I bet that Galliani wont miss such a chance to fasten his chair :mex:
Giovanni
07-02-2005, 05:22
Did anyone watch the cracker he scored yesterday?
Stezagud
07-02-2005, 12:11
it was a great goal :D but even better is the fact that now we know he is capable of punishing Inter :cool:
Very impressive, even if the Canuck announcer on FSW's news and highlights show kept pronouncing his name as Gilardinho, like he is Brasilian or something. ;)
how do you pronounce his name anyway?
Gi-lar-di-no?
I always hear it as Gi-lar-di-nyo though.
I have cousins of the same surname (they are not, as far as I know, related though) and they always pronounce it Geel-arr-din-o.
I saw Gilla`s goal against Inter and I was rewally happy! Milan must sign him!
with that goal againts Inter, he practically said
"Im ready Galliani, Im ready"
']with that goal againts Inter, he practically said
"Im ready Galliani, Im ready"
Maybe Bojinov is ready too! :whie: :mex: Because he scored twice aginst Inter!?
There are rumours that Bojinov's deal to Fiorentina had a big deal to do with Moggi.
So if he ever leaves Fiorentina for any Italian club, I can assure you its gonna be Juve.
Bojinov never play at Milan side, instead, Bojinov hates Milan and he likes to play in Inter or Juve.
I prefer Gilardino, with Sheva Milan have one of the best attacking sides of Europe, but take a look for Real Madrid next season, with Reyes - Robinho - Ronaldo, amazing side too!!
triniman
11-02-2005, 07:55
Reyes????....not in the picture...that was a prank....and robinho is still uncertain
but take a look for Real Madrid next season, with Reyes - Robinho - Ronaldo, amazing side too!!
Yea, I have heard that Reyes is unhappy in Londres and wants to move to his country... though I think that if those three players start next season in real ... its fans will have another disappointing season... I wish that happen :tong:
But there is one thing I do not imagine how could Owen move to Arse??? :rollani:
BTW, about Gila, chelski are offering 20 mio euros for him... :r7: it is kinda much I guess :r7:
honestly, I dont see any way at all how Reyes - Robinho - Ronaldo can fail.
Damn I really want Robinho at Milan :(
']honestly, I dont see any way at all how Reyes - Robinho - Ronaldo can fail.
Damn I really want Robinho at Milan :(
oh yeah, they can fail... and the possibility is enough high that perez wont try this in reality ;)
Robinho is not the one we need at all. Gila is more useful more than tripple times ;)
yeah.. but Robinho's dribbling skills are just amazing.. I didnt say we need him.. Its just Id always welcome him.. :D
oskarius
12-02-2005, 13:15
According to some reports, Gilardino will become Milan player in summer as he already agreed terms..
Chelsea offer has been rejected because of that reason..yeeheaa!! :noevil2:
I know it IMO Gila is almost our! :w200:
ac_milan_foreva
13-02-2005, 19:22
Bojinov never play at Milan side, instead, Bojinov hates Milan and he likes to play in Inter or Juve.
I prefer Gilardino, with Sheva Milan have one of the best attacking sides of Europe, but take a look for Real Madrid next season, with Reyes - Robinho - Ronaldo, amazing side too!!
bojinov doesnt hate milan..
he will go to the 1st team that gives him the opportunity to play cl football wether is it juve or milan
Alberto Gilardino has long been associated with the San Siro giants, but the Italian Press today states the Parma striker has agreed terms.
There are reports that the Azzurri star has worked out a contract that will tie him to Milan until June 2010 with effect from the end of this season.
The breakthrough came when it emerged that the contract Gilardino signed until 2007 had a clause forcing Parma to vastly increase his wages if he was to stay on beyond June 2005. This is something the Gialloblu cannot afford and so a summer sale is guaranteed.
Gila was expected to leave the Stadio Tardini side in January, but the instability within the club – which is under administration and looking for new investors – saw any move postponed.
Roma, Juventus and Real Madrid have all confirmed their interest over the past few months, but Milan have emerged as the clear favourites to capture the hitman.
Italian newspapers are now suggesting that a meeting between agent Beghetto and Rossoneri transfer guru Ariedo Braida on Friday put the final details in place for a £15m move.
Vice-President Adriano Galliani admitted as much a few days ago when asked about Gilardino's chances of joining the club. "We'll wait and see what happens," he smiled.
Now more than ever Milan are concerned about the future of their strike force outside of European Player of the Year Andriy Shevchenko. Filippo Inzaghi is now over 30 and has barely set foot on the field for a year due to a succession of injuries, while Jon Dahl Tomasson is struggling for form and could be set for a Premiership or La Liga switch.
Hernan Crespo scored a crucial goal in the Champions’ League tie with Manchester United midweek, but he is still owned by Chelsea and the details of his permanent move are yet to be worked out.
Gilardino’s height and power ensure he can act as a partner to Shevchenko, holding up the ball for his teammate.
Come on, make it official :(
Where did you find that?
I am bored of those messages and rumours posted by different sources... it feel irritating when you hear that the deal is almost made and nothing really occurs.... :mad:
killiegradge
26-02-2005, 09:10
Channel4.com
I don't know how much to believe that exact rumour but I would be gob smacked if we didn't sign him in summer.
i think it's done. channel4 is not known for posting rumours. it's a credible source. they had announced stam's signing similarly and it was definitely not a rumour.
it says so also on www.planetfootball.com
Yes I hreared this on Italian tv also today. They mentioned the same reasons, i.e. the clause and contract till 2010
Maradona (10)
26-02-2005, 21:00
Yeah, this move was inevitable for quite a long time.
Gilardino is a heck of a player but he is a little bit selfish, as is Shevchenko.
Hopefully, they will leave their egos aside and contribute to each other success.
I`d really like to see Gila in Milan! AND btw my brother read in juveforums that Janku is almost theirs! What about that I`m worried hearing that! :yuck:
I`d really like to see Gila in Milan! AND btw my brother read in juveforums that Janku is almost theirs! What about that I`m worried hearing that! :yuck:
btw, I do not fancy Marek especially his ability to score own goals... :rollani:
although Gila is indispensable :cool: :firedev:
btw, I do not fancy Marek especially his ability to score own goals... :rollani:
although Gila is indispensable :cool: :firedev:
Sorry but what do you mean??? :1spie:
Sorry but what do you mean??? :1spie:
well, I do not like Marek though I like Gila ;)
now got it :D
:cheers:
jankulovski is brilliant! i hope he comes
jankulovski is brilliant! i hope he comes
He will come: http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=258968&cpid=21&CLID=&lid=8&title=Jankulovski+hints+at+Milan&channel=Italy
According to football italian on CH4 its done and dusted, Gilla has already agreed to sign for milan this summer!!!!
two great deals to start next season
Im undecided about Gilardino, I like the fact that he scored a hell of a lot of goals for italy under 21s and Parma. I just think that maybe Milan should buy the next big thing as a striker. If anyone call tell me that he will be the perfect partner to Sheva then :w200:
It is suuuuuuuuper! It`s very very gooood!
gilardino currently has 13 goals, 1 less than sheva.. hes amazing
Considering everyone, well parma fans anyway, were worried about goals after Mutu left and Adriano went back to Inter last season he stepped up to the plate and did the business. Everyone was asking well can he do it again? Answer is hell yeah!
Great deal. What a way to start the new campaign, Gilla and Jank...
hum maybe im still dreaming of Adriano and Sheva. Gilardino looks good though, we will hav to wait and see just how good
99-00 Piacenza 3 Goals, 17 Games (-)
00-01(sep)Piacenza (-)
00-01 Hellas Verona 3 Goals, 22 Games (-)
01-02 Hellas Verona 2 Goals, 17 Games (-)
02-03 Parme AC 4 Goals, 24 Games 1 Games (UEFA Cup)
03-04 Parme AC 23 Goals, 34 Games 3 Goals, 4 Games (UEFA Cup) 04-05 Parme AC 13 Goals, 25 Games 1 Goals, 5 Games (UEFA Cup) 1 Goals, 4 Games
not bad
Christopher
02-03-2005, 12:42
The question remains . . . does this mean that Crespo will be returned to Chelsea, or will Milan still work on buying his rights? Could buying Gilardino (besides his talent) also be used as a ploy to get Chelsea to lower their demands in buying Crespo?
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