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AC Milan 1 - 1 Roma (Sheva, Montella)
we just missed a big chance to get closer to Juve.....we missed chance after chance....especially with JDT who doesn't seem to be at his best.....it was a very exciting game, we could have won it, but our strikers (Crespo and JDT) didn't seem to be wearing their scoring boots, while Mexes and Pelizzoli were giants today....
anyway, comments??
Our players should be made to go to training at 5am tomorrow morning and practise their shooting ...
why did he change shevchenko?
i think it's the 2nd game that we lose because of carlo. he make some decisions that i don't understand!
and i could not imagine that our strikers exept shevchenko are soooo far away from football!
zlatanov
07-11-2004, 17:05
Well, apart from the result, Milan played a very good game and just lacked luck infront of both goals - missed many chances while let in a goal after some carambole infront of Dida. Overall, the result is very very disappointing after a very good performance - complete dominance in the 1st half and a very interisting 2nd period in which Roma improved their game but Milan were still on top. Very unfortunate that we lost Sheva for the second half when we missed his ability to convert and create opportunities.
The way Milan played makes this draw with Roma really hurt but what makes it even worse is Juve's loss yesterday - a great chance to get closer to them went in vain.
Shevchenko was rested because he was feeling his leg muscles tighten. Don't blame this on Carlo it's not his fault ... Shevchenko can't play 90 mins every game. Blame the people who couldn't shoot properly tonight and who missed all these chances, they're the ones who lost us 2 points.
We were unlucky today but Milan without Sheva is like Inter without Adriano. We need STRIKER not in June but is January!!! Sheva is not a :strong: and need a rest, JDT and Crespo :yuck: :moan:
I realy have faith in Crespo and JDT but time is tiking away!
We are 4 points behind Juve and still long way to go so...FORZA MILAN!!!
Berlusconi's expression said it all.
Angel_Cic
07-11-2004, 17:10
i agree with you jamie...also i feel like thomasson didn't have a feel for the game today. he had quite a few chances to score, with many beautiful passes from kaka' yet couldn't do anything with the ball. rui costa also gave the ball up quite a few times. little errors that cost us the game...yet overall, we were still pretty dominant.
I didn't watch the game but all I have to say is that it's unacceptable that the only player scoring is Sheva...our other players are too good to be in such funks for so long damn it *annoyed* eitherway FORZA MILAN PER SEMPRE!
hitmannq8
07-11-2004, 17:15
Second absolutely appauling performance for Milan. Last yr, Milan got 22 out of 24 pts from the big teams (Juve, Inter, Lazio, Roma).. So far, we already dropped four points against Roma and Inter.. This Milan is nothing like last year. Seems like we're heading towards another disappointing campaign. Milan need Zeman.
[QUOTE=Goirre]AC Milan 1 - 1 Roma (Sheva, Montella)
we just missed a big chance to get closer to Juve.....we missed chance after chance....especially with JDT who doesn't seem to be at his best.....it was a very exciting game, we could have won it, but our strikers (Crespo and JDT) didn't seem to be wearing their scoring boots
Indeed.When Gio first started the thread `strikers problem` i didn`t really feel we had one....now i`d definitely agree with what he said there,we can`t wait for jdt or crespo to gain back their form(no matter how great players they are),Sheva needs a reliable partner otherwise we could play every game as good as we played this one and still draw or (god forbid )lose.However,it was a good game and even though we conceded a goal i`d give credit to our defence.
MOM in my opinion would be Cafu and Sheva as well.
looking forward to the next match.....FORZA MILAN :rone:
Milan need Zeman.
:drunk: http://www.xtratime.org/forum/showthread.php?t=145618&page=1
What happend in the second half? Actually both teams played a good first half. If was a good football game. But then the players came out in the second half looking totally out of focus. We gave away two point today ...
This is NOT alright. It's a f*cking scandal. I think it has been made VERY CLEAR that we have to open out wallet and buy a new and QUALIFIED striker.
This is not acceptable. Not at all...
Greetings from a pissed off fan...
so many things went wrong today:
1) the most important thing, the PASSING was awful!!!
2) where was the determination??!?!?! where were the fans, it was half empty??? can some1 explain this to me, at times when were in troublle they have been the driving force for our wins, their absence had an impact i think, the players looked dead!
3) selfishness... oh my god, ive never seen milan be so selfish, our attackers all went for glory, even shevchenko, kaka was not at his best, tomasson was just horrible and crespo was useless.
4) the communication, it was just ****, thats usually one of our main strengths, that we have good communication and therefore we control the game alot easier and win with ease, this has not been the case today.
5) and what about the midfield, it was shameful today, from pirlo to kaka to gattuso to seedorf.... just bad!!! ... rui costa shouldve come earlier... and i felt there was a need for serginho/kaladze or ambrosini.
6) the substitution were a mess, ur playing messy and what u need is some good runs from the wing backs, with cafu now unable to go forward after mancini shifted to their left, it was supposed to be our left that produced the attacks, so what did carlo do? he takes out pancaro and plays a much less attacking maldini there and puts billy in the middle, this was just useless... why not keep maldini in the middle and play kaladze or sergio on the left??!?!?!?! this is not the time to fool around it was very noticable that we needed an attacking LWB. and as for the sheva substitution, why play crespo when now when u have the lead??? if anything this was the time to play a 4-3-2-1 formation, i think rui shouldve come on inplace of sheva instead of crespo, then maybe we couldve played ambro in place of pirlo or seedorf to hold on to the win since our attackers arent making use of their endless chances.
7) what can i say about the chances... maybe an auto-aim might help in scoring more goals, it seems like sheva is the only one whos able to score for us, JDT was slow, and crespo like i said was useless by all means.
8) our best players tonight even were behind the draw i think, the goal came as a result of mistakes first by cafu for not helping in defence enough and the attack came from his flank and it was just empty, nesta shouldve cleared that ball alot more wiser... its not like canna did the same yesterday.... just shoot it outside!!!
god im so frustrated at this draw!!! ... im more than convinced that we need a new striker... bojinov i think is the best option, he scores his chances atleast!!!
Why do we need Zeman ? Would he have got on the pitch and scored a goal for us ? No.
Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmannq8
Milan need Zeman.
I'm a big fan of Zeman, but I am a bigger fan of consistency. After all, Ancelotti has done well.
zlatanov
07-11-2004, 17:32
Why do we need Zeman ? Would he have got on the pitch and scored a goal for us ? No.
Don't worry - it was just the result of somebody speaking before thinking. No offense intended to that somebody.
[QUOTE=Goirre]AC Milan 1 - 1 Roma (Sheva, Montella)
we just missed a big chance to get closer to Juve.....we missed chance after chance....especially with JDT who doesn't seem to be at his best.....it was a very exciting game, we could have won it, but our strikers (Crespo and JDT) didn't seem to be wearing their scoring boots
Indeed.When Gio first started the thread `strikers problem` i didn`t really feel we had one....now i`d definitely agree with what he said there,we can`t wait for jdt or crespo to gain back their form(no matter how great players they are),Sheva needs a reliable partner otherwise we could play every game as good as we played this one and still draw or (god forbid )lose.However,it was a good game and even though we conceded a goal i`d give credit to our defence.
MOM in my opinion would be Cafu and Sheva as well.
looking forward to the next match.....FORZA MILAN :rone:
Yeah I pretty much agree.
Talk about NO LUCK...they had so many chances to score..but it juss wasn't working...
I think Milan fans are loosing hope in Crespo.
This was our chance to almost catch up to Juve...but there was no luck at all! :cry: Juve is doing way better then is
I really really miss Inzaghi...JDT is totaly pissing me off! :rollani: He juss seems so lost all the time.
The only striker who can score for Milan is Shevchenko. Milan desparately need another striker. Bojinov in Jan. would be an execllent solution. Bojinov also scored again 2 goals against Udinese.
Bojinov is amazing! I was watchin him today..and I thought he's young and talented...he would certainly be a good buy.
its time for some changes. its hard for teams to be succesfull 3 years in a row without makin any changes. last year we made some good changes with cafu n kaka, this year there has been no change. i think we need a world class striker by january
I agree with most of this. Watching this game was hard for me. Missed passes, selfishness... I almost went crazy :) The only good thing here is that Juve lost. Now we're actually closer for one point.
Well I watched the match and I have to say that it wan an entertaining one, flowing football, not many fouls, ball moving from box to box and two very nice goals.
Milan got off to a flying start and in the first 30 minutes I was thinking that we could easily win the game by 3-0 or 4-0. We had the skills to do this but once more we seemed unwilling to kill the match. It is becoming very frustrating match after match. The main factor in our inability to score again was Kaka, who was really bad this evening (we still haven't seen the real Kaka, Diavolo and it is already the 7th of November), plus we had some chances that we didn't finish well, many shot finishing off target.
The second half was average comparing it to the first but good football was played. Sheva's substitution clearly demonstrated that we have no 2nd option up front (by the way, where's the good old Tomasson? This guy scored 15 goals last season and has delivered nothing until now!) After the equaliser Roma started to be very careful with their defense, only Totti and Montella trying to deliver up front. They didn't create any clear chance but they held well at the back. Milan's wingplay was blocked by this solid 8 or 9 man defense and we tried to attack from the middle. But our forwards were well closed down and there was too much pressure in front of the box. This, compbined with some Pirlo bad passing and some inability or bad luck in front of goal held us scoreless inthe second half.
Fair result in the end, Roma ran their asses off to stand a chance and credit to them. As for the Scudetto, I don't think a 4-point gap is anything important in a 38-matches league. We are still heavily in the race. We must not forget that Juve are extraordinary so far, if they had drawn once more we would be almost level with them.
Kaka and the forwards must work in training and get to their old self. We will be punished if they don't. I liked Cafu, Sheva, Nesta and Seedorf. Everybode else being mediocre.
ginoformaggino
07-11-2004, 18:15
I think Milan fans are loosing hope in Crespo.
I really really miss Inzaghi...JDT is totaly pissing me off! :rollani: He juss seems so lost all the time.
yeah man.
It is really incredible to me :depress: seeing Valdanito so lost. :wow:
Are we sure?
Is he Crespo and not :gun: Javi Moreno :gun:
in one of his more skillful disguises?
MILAN
Above all we need a central midfielder that organizes play, holds the ball is able to run and defend and PLAY football.
And a second striker who is world class.
I say this for over a year, now the problems become more and more obvious as former top performers are ageing and unable to do it all on their own.
This is NOT alright. It's a f*cking scandal.
My feelings exactly. It ain't alright to throw away points in such careless manner; seems like a freakin' mental thing - we take the lead and in spite of us having every chance to shut the door well and truly, the same thing happens all over. Just unnecessary.
god, we have one striker. Crespo needs to shape up, I think a year of fawning about in london has done him no good at all and JDT lacked match sharpness. but that's not something that's usually so evident with him.
to many of our squad players are out of form. Sheva, Nesta, Cafu and Kaka (although he is drifting in and out of games at the moment) are playing great, but players who make up the overall quality of Milan like Seedorf, Pirlo, Tommasson, Pancaro player who last season looked exellent this year have been inconsistent.
Poor finishing let us down badly in this game. Kaka and Tomasson were also guilty of not sending in a pass at the first instant to the open man and let us down.
Kaka is playing poorly. Problem is that benching him won't do much good as Rui Costa won't make a run like him. I think Kaka has forgotten shooting for some reason :confused: Our OTHER strikers in the shape of Crespo and Tomasson are just not making the most of the opportunities they are getting. When Shev was injured at half-time I thought it would be a good chance to see how good our team would be at scoring without him and it is not pleasing at all to see these chances go missing when the goalkeeper isn't even tested! It is terrible! :mad:
Silvio didn't look happy at all when they showed him in 81st min! He looked angry and frustrated and Fester shaking his head in disbelief just cracked me up big time! :dielaugh: He must be lecturing the players right now scolding them for blowing a golden opportunity to grab 3 points!
We are paying a price in games as we take the lead and then don't consolidate on that by building it up with good scoring chances. Long range shooting needs to come into play more.
Our set-pieces have to be the WORST of all the big teams in world football!! Downright ridiculous to the extent that there is hardly ever any danger when Milan takes a FK or Corner! We have 0% utilization on them.
We have to really work on the finishing and set-pieces. Juve remains in touching distance so no damage done but an opportunity has passed us by for sure.
ACMILAN1983
07-11-2004, 19:12
I'll put a more detailed post later, but today we were wasteful, which our players need to work on immeasurably. Also, we took a step back in defence as we let our concentration go when they scored.
I just got back from the milan club . I saw the game and the first half , milan played good . But I still dont know why ancelotti let tomasson play and took off sheva ...
Pfff , i'm kinda dissapointed ... Kaka played poorly too btw :(
What a frustrating game to watch, sigh... Most important though is to remember that there is no need (yet, hehehe) to start bashing the team and our chances to be victorious come May.
1. The general attitude during the games I´ve watched including this one vs Roma is starting to piss me off. My oppinion is that Milan as a team needs to be more humble and aware of the fact that when the game starts the score is actually 0-0, not 3-0. Sometimes I just get a feeling that the players are a bit arrogant, thinking something like "no worries, someone will fix this". If my feeling is in any way close to reality, then Ancelotti needs to fix this and restore the hunger within the team. Some players actually look like they just got out of bed when we are playing. Wake up and fight!!!
It is not that our quality suddenly has dropped, it´s there - we just need to bring in the right mentality so that we can take advantage of the resources that this team in fact has.
2. Another problem is that Shevchenko has carried this team so far in this season, someone anyf*ckinone must step up and start delivering. Crespo is a joke so far in my most humble oppinion, Tomasson seems to perform at his best when starts on the bench and Pippo, oh Pippo, is out. I am definitely of the oppinion that we should boost our attack with a new player in January, either Bojinov or Gilardino. It is also obvious that the team is dependant on an in-form Kaká, which is not the case right now.
Ahhh, so frustrated right now. Now Brescia must pay.
Forza Milan!!
BaggioForever
07-11-2004, 20:59
Our set-pieces have to be the WORST of all the big teams in world football!! Downright ridiculous to the extent that there is hardly ever any danger when Milan takes a FK or Corner! We have 0% utilization on them.
.
Roma was worse really :D
BaggioForever
07-11-2004, 21:28
The general attitude during the games I´ve watched including this one vs Roma is starting to piss me off. My oppinion is that Milan as a team needs to be more humble and aware of the fact that when the game starts the score is actually 0-0, not 3-0. Sometimes I just get a feeling that the players are a bit arrogant, thinking something like "no worries, someone will fix this". If my feeling is in any way close to reality, then Ancelotti needs to fix this and restore the hunger within the team. Some players actually look like they just got out of bed when we are playing. Wake up and fight!!!
It is not that our quality suddenly has dropped, it´s there - we just need to bring in the right mentality so that we can take advantage of the resources that this team in fact has.
my sentiments realli....
-Nesta n Maldini shows the lack of concentration :tired:
-Kaka and Shev were selfish...
-Gattuso was giving away too much freekicks
-Pancaro was giving away the ball too easily
-the lack of will to go for the ball allows Roma to regain possession too easily
-the way they play against Roma was simply a show of complacency...
However..
-Cafu was extraordinary in our attack as well as defence..but only during the 1st 60 plus mins...fatigue took over
-Kaka was alive during the last 20 mins..going for assist instead of finishing himself but our strikers let him down
-Pirlo was instrumental with his passes (grenade launching :grinser)..
Now with Brescia and Siena in the lineup...we should be able to rest a few of our impt players like Kaka,Cafu and Nesta with some rotation in the squad in order to face the intriguing season ahead.
The 4pts lead by Juve ain tt impt so early in the season...y r people gettin so worked up like Juve is going to be runaway winners...let Juve be the winter champions for all i care..but i noe come May..the Red n Black will don the Campione Centrestage again! :D
FORZA MILAN!!
Milan need Zeman.
And I need to smoke crack. :whie: :devs:
With Zeman you are bound to see ridiculous scorelines, like 4-3 or 5-4... It's a potential health hazard.
It's 2 points lost due to pissed poor finishing. We created enough chances to win by at least 3 goals if the finishing had been more clinical. I'm running of out patience for Crespo now and JDT just ain't starter material. A new striker in January looks more likely than ever (I'll be happy with a 6 month loan deal if it's for some proven player), but until then Sheva is still our get-out-of-jail trump card. :sob:
Maldini was at fault for Roma's goal. Just what the phuck was he ball-watching and left Montella totally unmarked? A great chance to reduce Yoovay's lead to 2 points and we simply blew it. A funny weekend of draws as 7 of the 8 Serie A games on Sunday all ended in stalemates.
A poor weekend for me in the fantasy league too, I sold Jankuloski for Stankovic and one scored a match-winning goal while the other got himself red-carded. :wallbang: It's a double blow cause this week is a double game week, which means I'll be losing more points on Stankovic for the midweek games... Well the good news for me is Carlos (the current leader) will also be losing points midweek on Parisi. :devf:
Lastly, welcome back mange! The team could do with one of your pep talks now. :delol:
Shouldn't forget what BaggioForever posted about the defense, with all the problems about Sheva carrying the team and the midfield very much out of form the defense is causing problems for itself not only on the goal but also Mancini (if I remember correctly) could easily have had a second for them, yet another example of a (higher) ball coming in and one or two opposing players very open.
My thoughts of the season so far.
Milan are ageing!!, we need another young defender for maldini and eventually cafu. we need a young striker with promise and talent, not a tap in artist! i dont think gilardino is the way to go we need someone with more flair maybe someone like tevez!! I think crespo needs more playing time before we can dismiss him! and JDT should be sold, Collocini should be given more playing time, costa should also retire!
if we didnt have sheva we would be screwed
FORZA MILAN
Costa as in Costacurta . I agree with mange with his comments milan need to get thier act together. Kaka is brilliant but still young and we need to find another playmaker . pirlo is great but he makes simple errors at times with brilliance!
DOnt get me wrong i love milan but we need to play with more passion and energy if we are going to catch juve , we missed such a great chance to catch them . looking fwd to midweek!
Bye from australia!!
hitmannq8
08-11-2004, 00:16
:drunk: http://www.xtratime.org/forum/showthread.php?t=145618&page=1
Woooow i really hope this is true
What do u guys mean Zeman wouldn't work? With the defensive players we have, Zeman would work PERFECT! 4-3-3 he'd use? i think he'll do a 3-4-3.. and this is the ideal lineup in my opinion
stam - nesta - maldini
cafu - pirlo - rui costa - seedorf
------ kaka -------
---- pippo/jdt/crespo -- sheva
Pancaro was perfect last year, dont get me wrong I like him.. but this season hes nothing like he was last year.. We need 1 more young defender like Mexes. We have collocini who will replace Maldini (:() when he retires.. I really think we need a new striker.. i'd prefer Tevez over Boijnov.. his characterstics would match Sheva the best, although if Crespo is in form, i'd love to see them play..
but u see, this is the prob with milan.. they keep saying We're still finding our form.. TILL WHEN? who do they think they're kiddin and say we will find form in spring.. ofcourse its better to find it later than now, but with a squad like this, why not find the best form till the end of the season?
zlatanov
08-11-2004, 00:24
As I said, somebody talked long before he gave it a deep thought. Whether it was actually Silvio, someone on that other forum, or someone here I don't know but Zeman is the exact opposite of what Milan has been for the past 100 years or so, so...
With him at the helm Milan will be an attractive team playing the sexiest football around while finishing 4th or 5th. Inconsistancy is the word that best describes Zeman's results everywhere he has been. Sexy football don't win you trophies.
I just cant post often nowadays but I just had too after this.. "defeat"
We really should have won. And what makes it worst was that I was so much expecting a victory since Juve lost.
Damn.
I agree with most of who are saying the burden all just cant be put on Sheva alone. We need another striker. Is Torres available for the CL?
AC-GIOFFRE
08-11-2004, 02:20
I think we need another striker. Perhaps Cassano in the January Trade. We just can't keep relying on Shevchenko. Crespo is not doing well. We will probably see more of Super Pippo soon.
A poor weekend for me in the fantasy league too, I sold Jankuloski for Stankovic and one scored a match-winning goal while the other got himself red-carded. :wallbang: It's a double blow cause this week is a double game week, which means I'll be losing more points on Stankovic for the midweek games... Well the good news for me is Carlos (the current leader) will also be losing points midweek on Parisi. :devf:
Hahah.. I dropped Jankuloski for Seedorf and kept Stankovic too... Guess I am not the only one... :hammer:
People need to chill out on this result.. There are still 20+ more matches remaining... I am pretty sure there will be ways to turn things around. It's not like us being in the bottom of the table. Sh~t happens, but if it keeps on going, I demand a change until that time arrives. For now, just keep our faith in the squad and look forward to improvement in the future (aka new arrival in january?)
All the rumor about Zeman has gone a bit absurd... Did anyone remember Terim as our coach? Milan played attacking soccer but not as consistent as the Milan under Ancelotti. I know a lot of people upset about the recent performance, but isn't it a bit too early to start to talk about change of a coach? I know Ancelotti is not perfect for sure, I disagree with his lineup and substitution at times. But still, he proved himself in the past 2 seasons, so have faith in the squad and coach. Hope they learn their lessons well.
Damn.. just finished reading that stupid post.. it's a joke.. Scared the Sh~t out of me if it's true
It started as if giants (Milan) were playing against dwarfs.We should have scored more in that first half hour and we would have defeated Roma widely.
Shevchenco again. This time, only he was not enough. Why not JDT also? I wonder... From his occasions, Inzaghi would have got us a hatrick.
After the first half hour, distraction in defence and ever less ball possesion and continuity. Perhaps it was tiresome. Cafu -tired - I understand, he has palyed a lot lately and he is well over 30+ y.old, but R Costa tired also as soon as he got in - I don't understand. Ancelotti had better cut his fingers rather than replace Seedorf with RC.
Don't mock me for what I'm writing now, but without Costacurta, we'd have lost!! (Nesta was brilliant and catastrophic alternately.)
The team is ageing and it depends too much on too few players.
FORZA MILAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Grande-Milan-DK
08-11-2004, 04:05
I just read a couple of posts where some meant that Milan played "great" and just missed to score.
Milan played great the first 30 minutes - than more and more errors came in and INCREDIBLE mistakes with wrong passes and unable to control the ball.
Roma really showed nothing even Milan often gave them the ball - in the 2nd half Milan got even worse with passing and Roma said "thank you" when Milan typical lost the ball in the midfield and Nesta kicked the ball on Pancaro´s leg .. Montella .. 1-1.
Milan seemed tired and the will to win was gone - Kaka, Seedorf and even Rui Costa seemed totally out of form .. Rui did make 10 freekicks in 15 minutes(nearly).
Milan should have been leading more after the first 30 minutes, but to say that Inzaghi would have made 3 or 4 goals out of the chances is also kinda bull**** -
The batteries have to be re-charged until wednesday - but even it is not a disaster just to get 1 point, maybe a new player in the offense would be an idea in january - maybe not a striker but maybe a new "Rui Costa" who can come with some new danger, as it seems that our opponents know how to handle Milan.... just a suggestion :D
Sheva7_Evo
08-11-2004, 06:41
very frustrating game. first 30 mins we created alot but should have killed roma of as there were plenty of adequate chances to do so.
Ratings
Dida 6- didn't really have much to do. 1 bad touch nearly let totti in, another flick over montella's head was risky. Goal can't be blamed on him. Montella did well.
Pancaro 5- Very disappointing. Out of position for goal. Should have won the ball earlier.
Nesta 6- not his best game but still okay. unluck deflection to montella for goal
Maldini 6- okay, nothing spectacular. didn't contribute much as LB
Cafu 7.5- MOM, brilliant running. replica of last year's goal against roma.
Pirlo 5.5- Started off quite well, good balls. Faded out very quickly.
Seedorf 5- Nothing to say, cause he did nothing. Could feel with the Tifosi as they groaned when he chose to knock back to defense when on a counter.
Kaka 6.5- Started playing out wide with introduction of rui costa. Fased in and out of the game, still good runs. Kaka has to be the most fouled player in Serie A! very frustrating. Yellow card for diving was unlike him
Tomasson 5.5- like Seedorf. should have been passed a couple times when open. Few of you already picked up the selfishness going on
Shevchenko 7- what can i say. easy goal from slack defending. played a ball nicely for tomasson i think. why did he get subbed?
Subs-
Crespo...trying too hard?
Costacurta...Hard on Montella
Rui...2 good chances to win it.
new striker? part of me still wishes tommo will be as he was last year and crespo as he was many years ago. if Gila or Tevez is available, Milan should consider. Wonder what would have happened if Cassano played...
I did not watch this game, let me start off by saying, but I have some concerns from our last few games that I have seen. Why is Shevchenko the only player scoring? Rui Costa gave us a kick in the butt when he came in--why isn't he playing games? Why can we only play one good half? I was getting so furious watching last week's CL game vs Barca, the commentators (Brits) were gloating over our poor play!
Edmandoi, right NOW the only thing consistent under Ancelotti is that he isn't fielding our best lineups or something--there's some reason we waren't scoring or playing well for 90 minutes. I don't care for consistency like THAT!!! :3band:
Paddy De Nagan
08-11-2004, 07:16
Very disappointing from Milan.
Started out brilliantly, Cafu was v. good down the right.
We dominated the first 20 mins, should have created a bigger lead.
Pancaro, Gattuso and Kaka were dissapointing.
Crespo should have started from the beginning. Even though he's not performing his best yet, he still offers more than Tomasson.
We need a new striker.
Nesta 6- not his best game but still okay. unluck deflection to montella for goal
Kaka 6.5- Started playing out wide with introduction of rui costa. Fased in and out of the game, still good runs. Kaka has to be the most fouled player in Serie A! very frustrating. Yellow card for diving was unlike him
I must disagree on these two. Nesta where great all trough and just picked the ball from the opponents all the time. only his passing could improve.
But Kaka!! He was awful, almost dreadful. The only good thin I saw from him was his pass to Rui late in the game, apart from that he lost the ball all the time and never passed the ball. Really couldn't impose himself on the game at all.
Seedorf was good for the first 20 mins, after that he just vanished. wouldn't have known he was still on the field unless I saw him get substituted.
Giovanni
08-11-2004, 08:16
Yesterday match shows that it's NOT true that, with average strikers, but playing very good, you score anyway. The quality of a striker is the most important element in goals, just sometimes he is simply the finisher of a teamwork.
I believe we've to blame our poor form, and also the poor quality of our strikers at the moment. Guys, we all must realise Crespo WAS world class, but it's 2 years he doesn't convince. We have Pippo injured and Tomasson out of form. Now i say: Tomasson is an excellent player who will come back soon (it's just a matter of form), but he's not able to lead us singlehandedly, so he's not a world class like Sheva. Crespo is a big question mark, and a player who has to regain old shape needs time, which we cannot afford to concede him(every game is crucial).
The huge mistake is this: having an already recovering player (Pippo) and a player like Jon Dahl (who's merely a good third choice), why we signed an already troubled player like Crespo? The question marks were already enuff, but we add another one into our team, instead of a fresh player who could gave us immediate certainties.This is the huge market mistake i criticise in the *Strikers problem* thread.
Milanista ID
08-11-2004, 09:11
After we lead 1-0, our players were act like 3-0 lead :groan: wasted many chances, selfish, lack of concentrate and poor finishing touch :( and next game is Brescia, it'll tough match IMO
Giovanni
08-11-2004, 09:20
The selfishness of our strikers is the due price to have in our line up players who must regain the confidence. They look for individual goals and achievements
Bastenlee
08-11-2004, 09:27
God bless Shevchenko do not have injury ¬¬Just think about the year 2001-2002,Sheva can not on the pitch and Milan have an awful season ....
Grande-Milan-DK
08-11-2004, 14:24
Hightlights from the match ?
After we lead 1-0, our players were act like 3-0 lead :groan: wasted many chances, selfish, lack of concentrate and poor finishing touch :( and next game is Brescia, it'll tough match IMO
I agree, Olan.. We wasted many good chances.. :depress:
everytime Sheva being substituted, slightly I lost my faith that we could score another goal or two...
send Crespo back to Stamford Bridge, and sign Gilardino or Torres.
like Gio said, every game is crucial! WE NEED GOALS and POINTS!
Warro Bantan
08-11-2004, 15:02
What a frustrating game to watch, sigh... Most important though is to remember that there is no need (yet, hehehe) to start bashing the team and our chances to be victorious come May.
1. The general attitude during the games I´ve watched including this one vs Roma is starting to piss me off. My oppinion is that Milan as a team needs to be more humble and aware of the fact that when the game starts the score is actually 0-0, not 3-0. Sometimes I just get a feeling that the players are a bit arrogant...
2. Another problem is that Shevchenko has carried this team so far in this season, someone anyf*ckinone must step up and start delivering. Crespo is a joke so far in my most humble oppinion, Tomasson seems to perform at his best when starts on the bench and Pippo, oh Pippo, is out. I am definitely of the oppinion that we should boost our attack with a new player in January, either Bojinov or Gilardino. It is also obvious that the team is dependant on an in-form Kaká, which is not the case right now.
Forza Milan!!
Precisely my view mange....Arrogance is the exact word that came to mind when watching this latest Milan farce.
We could have won this game in the first half, then put on Ambro and sealed off the game.
What many have also not mentioned is that though he did well defensively as he always does, Gattuso played horribly in the attacking third, wasting about 80% of his passes over 3m. From what I have seen, Brocci is a much better passer, and his work rate is almost equal that of Gattuso.
The selfishness of our players when attacking is another problem that makes this season's Milan less than last season's edition. Kaka and JDT seemed hell bent on NOT passing to Sheva as much as possible, and I can understand Sheva taking a shot in the 18 yard box, even when Kaka was open, and missing, even though he did fluff the shot. Sheva is a born goal scorer, yet he adds so much in the attack, he made several telling passes that were all wasted by the recipients.
The fiasco that led to the goal to me again stems from arrogance, and that is dangerous for a club to feel, especially when we are not runaway leaders by 10 points with 2 games left in the season.
Once Milan were 1-0 in the lead, our players were already celebrating the victory at home, somehow forgetting that there were 80+ minutes left to play.
This is where a good coach comes in, but if arrogance be the problem, then Carlo will not be able to solve it, as he seems the most arrogant of all. His refusal to admit that he needs a young inform striker seems to be coming to haunt us, as Crespo is way off form, and prob wont make an impact until March or April at the rate at which he is "improving".
JDT is definately proving not to be Milan quality. How many more missed opportunities, and drawn or lost matches will we have before someone (Galliani, Ancelotti et al) realises that he is a second string striker and nothing more? With Inzahgi out for the next few months, come January, we need to get a striker, even on loan, as right now, if Sheva faces a long term injury, we are certainly doomed. Parma may not want to let Gilardino go, but I think if we came in and say offered JDT or Crespo (unlikely but hey why not) in trade, we could get him. Is Tevez too costly and too unpredictable a player to bring in come Jan?
Brescia I hope will allow for Crespo and JDT to get some more matchplay, and hopefully regain some confidence, and lose some selfishness. Kaka should be rested, as he seems to be mentally tired, and this is showing in the choices he is making in the attack.
FORZA MILAN!!!
GET WELL PIPO....WE NEED YOU!!!!!!
Giovanni
08-11-2004, 15:14
wb imo jon dahl is milan quality but at the moment is out of form, and due to our few options we must field him whether we like it or not..if gila was in our team jon dahl wouldn't play now, but he had proved he's an excellent player. if we had another striker the out of form players would have more time to regain their shape
fallawati
08-11-2004, 16:53
i agree with most of you guys.
My comments & opinion
* crespo needs to find new home or start scoring soon ( why is he worth so 4 anyway??)
* Some tell Anciloti please, Crespo + JDT = no offense = no goals=sux-=does not work= bad idea....
* JDT needs to cut his hair or scores soon
* Sheve = Milan's only scorer
* need new attackers if Crespo & JDT do not score ( Until Inzaghi comes back)
* We're lucky that juve lost
* Defense needs to organize better specially Nesta
* Seedorf thinks he has scored enough already this season ? maybe he is still celebrating his first 2 goals of the season. Or is he just too happy with the contract extension?
* I still love milan regardless :diablo:
ACMILAN1983
08-11-2004, 18:00
ok, like I said yesterday, we are extremely wasteful at the moment. I'm not just talking about in matches, but in every sense. Good examples include in CL where we should have qualified, but didn't and then yesterday where we had a great chance, but failed and we are wasteful of great opportunities in matches. I'm not just talking about goalscoring opportunities like yesterday, but also having the opportunity to control matches and dominate teams (like our opportunity against Barca).
Simply put, I'm not worried about the side not performing at their peak, as I expected this, but we need to take advantage of our opportunities which is where we are failing.
Hopefully, some players will begin to perform soon, as this is a reason were being so wasteful. I don't believe its an attitude problem, but I do agree with many there are problems and were often performing like a group of individuals rather than a team.
Anyway, I'll keep faith as were still doing well this year and there is no reason to panic.
FORZA MILAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
well after watchin the match I really can not believe we have not taken three points. That match should have been wrapped up at half time and we were not the same side without Sheva. Tomasson was more wasteful that Crespo, i still think crespo will come good, but Tomasson isn't good enough. It was very frustrating watching!!!
Jesus christ, get a grip guys! We are almost top of the table and season is still young. The strikers will start scoring - don't worry about it.
what happend to milan? we had great chance to get to juve
but we miss it. why we draw to roma I never thought we would
draw. I didn't see this game but I read many comment and all
they agreed that milan lost playing as team!!!. and I knew that
crespo playd so bad. do you guys remeber when I say that about
him I told you milan will lose this deal .but no one agree about
it and look what happend. what happend to ancelotti and his
way to put milan line? do you think ancelotti
had metting with trap and for this reason put this line up .ha ha
:frustrat: :frustrat:
To add to the perspective Zentro was communicating; Isn't it fantastic that Milan is going thru a tough time right now, wasting changes, many players being off form, key players being injured etc etc, and we are still #2 in the standings and #1 in our CL group.
Just imagine what will happen when the Milan rocket takes off for real :3band:
killiegradge
09-11-2004, 07:04
Was lucky to get to the game on Sunday.Great atmosphere-are all visiting fans as crazy?What about the firecrackers and flares-is that quite normal?JDT not good enough for a team like Milan.
ACMILAN1983
09-11-2004, 08:28
Was lucky to get to the game on Sunday.Great atmosphere-are all visiting fans as crazy?What about the firecrackers and flares-is that quite normal?JDT not good enough for a team like Milan.
it'd be great to hear your thoughts on visiting the San Siro.
As for the firecrackers and flares, its nothing rare, so don't worry about it :)
Giovanni
09-11-2004, 08:33
To add to the perspective Zentro was communicating; Isn't it fantastic that Milan is going thru a tough time right now, wasting changes, many players being off form, key players being injured etc etc, and we are still #2 in the standings and #1 in our CL group.
Just imagine what will happen when the Milan rocket takes off for real :3band:
you right there ! i agree, my only concern is related to few options upfront, but i'm totally convinced this team will find his way when all the players' form will raise
Giovanni
09-11-2004, 08:34
Was lucky to get to the game on Sunday.Great atmosphere-are all visiting fans as crazy?What about the firecrackers and flares-is that quite normal?JDT not good enough for a team like Milan.
mate the ampli system in our end was broken in the second half so the curva was crap because all the groups couldn't link eachothers..we can do better than that
The first half was great although we should have got more goals. One positive thing is that the players showed urgency right from the start. We were more direct than usual and we carved out more chances than we normally do. Lost this in the second half, God knows why?
We are five points behind Juve who have all their players on form, Nedved, Delpiero, Emerson, Ibrahimavich, cannavaro etc. They will be hard to beat this year. All the talk about the Milan players not being on form isnt true. They all seem to be playing well except Kaka and Sheva's strike partner (who ever that is). With Kaka, its natural, hes going through a learning curve that all young players have to go through especially in his position. Nedved wasnt very good last season for Juve by his high standards and it cost them. So if Nedved can have an "off season" surely its possible for a 21 year old. Crespo needs some patience and I personally think JDT is best as a sub.
Carlo is worrying me though. Players like Ambro and Brocchi(yeah I know Max is far better, but I mean defensive players) are being used far more than last season. While Rui is getting next to no playing time at all. We cant expect him to come on and work wonders why Kaka is having an offday without match fitness or practice. Then our backline isnt only changing from match to match its even changing during matches and Stams not even fit yet. Carlo needs to put in place some continuity in the defense and remember that this Milan team counters other teams attacks by making them worry about Milan's danger. Our key players in Midfield are Seedorf, Pirlo, Kaka or Rui and to cover them defensively Rhino. Not Ambro, Serghinio or Brocchi. They have their place, but in games like Barca that is on the bench.
killiegradge
09-11-2004, 11:20
Was most impressed with the San Siro.We did the tour on Saturday and were instantly excited.The changing rooms were somewhat basic especially for multi million pound players and the playing surface wasn't the best we have seen but as for the stadium it was better than we expected.The game itself was brilliant and the atmosphere electric.Certainly a bit taken aback with the flares being thrown but it really added to the occasion.Given that tickets were difficult to purchase beforehand via the club I was surprised at the number of empty seats.Do they always leave so many empty seats around the opposition fans or do Roma get special treatment?Would love to return - maybe for the title decider against Juve in May?
Giovanni
09-11-2004, 11:46
yes they left those sits around the roma fans for security reasons
To add to the perspective Zentro was communicating; Isn't it fantastic that Milan is going thru a tough time right now, wasting changes, many players being off form, key players being injured etc etc, and we are still #2 in the standings and #1 in our CL group.
Just imagine what will happen when the Milan rocket takes off for real :3band:
Yeah, exactly!
This is what characterises a classy team, i.e. we're not on top of our game but we're top of the league. When (not if) the strikers start scoring we will seriously thrash our opponents.
I'm not worried one little bit. Start smiling.
sheva1234
10-11-2004, 11:37
i agree with most of you guys.
My comments & opinion
* crespo needs to find new home or start scoring soon ( why is he worth so 4 anyway??)
* Some tell Anciloti please, Crespo + JDT = no offense = no goals=sux-=does not work= bad idea....
* JDT needs to cut his hair or scores soon
* Sheve = Milan's only scorer
* need new attackers if Crespo & JDT do not score ( Until Inzaghi comes back)
* We're lucky that juve lost
* Defense needs to organize better specially Nesta
* Seedorf thinks he has scored enough already this season ? maybe he is still celebrating his first 2 goals of the season. Or is he just too happy with the contract extension?
* I still love milan regardless :diablo:
he is finished.he is 32 years old.he is nothing
he is finished.he is 32 years old.he is nothing
32 Yrs Old means nothing. Howa bout our captain? You are obliged to say our captain is useless. Say it!
Can you stop making groundless statement? It's so freaking annoying.
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