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mk18
28-10-2004, 12:47
has anyone seen the lecce 2-2 inter match???

oh man, if u did, then u wouldnt be surprised why this name has poppoed up once more... and hes 18!!!!! only 1 year older than me.... what a shot he has on him.. and the 1st goal was just amazing!!! he might be the ideal parter to sheva were looking for!!

PS: i wasnt impressed with him last season, but its probably because he was overshadowed by chevantons work... the kid is great!

inter ---> :punch: <----- bojinov

Giovanni
28-10-2004, 13:50
and he seems to be anti interista as well which must be taken in high regard

argo
28-10-2004, 19:04
...
inter ---> :punch: <----- bojinov
:rotfl: :haha:
Let's see how much he can do with Juve...

rae
29-10-2004, 08:53
Date: 15/02/1986
Place: Bulgaria
Height: 1,78 m
Weight: 78 kg

gretapreformance against inter...
wish the same against juve
:mex:

meazza
30-10-2004, 06:12
another player to watch, no rush to do anything rash. only 2 monthes ago Gilardino was the most promising striker in Italy now it's Bojinov, best to wait and see how things play out and most importantly pick players that have suitable characteristics for our team.

Dave
11-11-2004, 13:08
:1whis: What about Bojinov guys ha?? Imo he rocks the city!
Let`s get him! :neww:

ACMILAN1983
11-11-2004, 16:14
reminds me of the calls for Gilar last season.

Nova
11-11-2004, 16:28
reminds me of the calls for Gilar last season.

i still would love to see gilardino at milan ... :D

mk18
11-11-2004, 18:28
bojinov is exactly what we need i think

Dave
12-11-2004, 07:09
We must sign this guy he is a brilliant! or Juve can sign him!
PLz. Galliani buy Bojunov!

Peachtot
15-11-2004, 01:42
Mediocre striker I think.
I doubt him playing in milan. While score some goals in lecce, but playing nearby sheva?
Woa... He should improve his ability more than showing recent days.
More difficult playing in the same team with others world class players.

Kurt Cobain
15-11-2004, 07:19
I think he is a good player, but Tevez and Gilardino are much better than him. The other forward constantly linked with Milan, Fernando Torres, is a mistery to me. When I expect a strong performance he plays bad and vice-versa. Yesterday I missed him playing against Mallorca - and Cuper!
But sooner or later he'll be a Milan player because management seem convinced that he'll be a future star.

meazza
15-11-2004, 11:29
Mediocre striker I think.
I doubt him playing in milan. While score some goals in lecce, but playing nearby sheva?
Woa... He should improve his ability more than showing recent days.
More difficult playing in the same team with others world class players.
that's not always true, some players are bolstered by having quality around them. Frank Lampard of Chelsea was kinda so-so until Abramovich filled the place up with superstars. Lampard became one of the best players in the country, probably the best midfielder last season. however it is true in some circumstances and thats something hopefully the scouts and management can identify better than we can.

Peachtot
17-11-2004, 02:47
that's not always true, some players are bolstered by having quality around them. Frank Lampard of Chelsea was kinda so-so until Abramovich filled the place up with superstars. Lampard became one of the best players in the country, probably the best midfielder last season. however it is true in some circumstances and thats something hopefully the scouts and management can identify better than we can.

2-3 years till now, Sheva played big parts in MIlan's offence. Ancelloti's order give more chance to him play around, shooting outside the box or even take free kick or penalty. Some case, I see he's over confidence, like kaka on the posession for counter attack, he wanted all through pass came on him, although there's another striker running through. He often upset when another striker or even kaka failed. IMO, these conditions make another striker beside him feel more n more lack of confident.
I suppose that crespo and jon dahl (eventually senior and classy strikers) have this problem.

How if bojinov, actually young, labil, lack of matches (esp big clash in CL) face this actual condition in Milan?

Maybe Lampard case give us oppurtunity, why we dont try that guy?

Woa.., for me it would take much more time to get the rhyme, even longer than pippo's come back in february !!

ASHWIN
17-11-2004, 10:54
Bojinov is excellent.He is only 18 years old and he plays like an experienced player.A lot of clubs are after him and Bulgarian coach,Hristo Stoichkov has recommended him 2 Barcelona.Juventus and Arsenal are also after him.However,i feel that he is too young to ply his trade in Milan.Not that i doubt his ability.I'm just afraid,he may become egoistic or he may not be able to handle the pressure.

In the mean time,i think Milan should concentrate on getting Gilardino.He is the best striker in the world after SHEVCHENKO.

FORZA MILAN!!!!!
FORZA MILAN!!!!!
FORZA MILAN!!!!!

Dave
18-11-2004, 10:30
Sheva is super It`s no doubt! But IMO Bojinov will be a useful player for Milan!
Forza Milan!!!!!!!!!

Forza Milan & Rossoneri! :cheers:

Henrik
18-11-2004, 10:47
What's up with Lecce by the way? Cheveraton last year and Bojinov this year. They are starting to become the new Parma of producing talants. :)

Quivering
18-11-2004, 11:56
A few more seasons will pass before he'll go to a big club.

tardelli_jr
19-11-2004, 01:41
i don't know there was a report on www.theworldgame.com.au today which said that chelsea are preparing to move for him...

which would be sad, i like him alot and would love to see him in the red and black of milan

Peachtot
19-11-2004, 04:20
Physically, he's out of my criteria of an ideal striker.
better to find out another striker.
Bojinov didn't impressed me so far. ;)
THat's all.

Dave
19-11-2004, 06:35
Ok it`s your opinion! IMO Bujinov is super he is only 18 and think what hw can do few years later! :d55:

rae
19-11-2004, 06:38
Cheveraton last year and Bojinov this year. They are starting to become the new Parma of producing talants. :)
IMO yer totaly rite, mi amigo :p017:

Dave
19-11-2004, 06:41
Ok it`s your opinion! IMO Bujinov is super he is only 18 and think what hw can do few years later! :d55:

Jeff
19-11-2004, 13:05
IF you can say something with some evidence that will be cool. No point in starting a thread saying, "I think so-and-so is awesome" and then "Forza Milan" and that's it. It is not cool at all.

MIRZA
19-11-2004, 14:45
Bojinov is good, but I will say this again we don't need more strikers we already have Sheva who is in great form, Inzaghi (he is injured but he will be back), JDT ( I hope he will finnaly score) and Crespo.
And we also have Boriello and Pozzi....

Giovanni
06-12-2004, 03:36
What's up with Lecce by the way? Cheveraton last year and Bojinov this year. They are starting to become the new Parma of producing talants. :)
they have one of the best scout in the world such as Pantaleo Corvino..

he found Bojinov in Malta, go figures

Dave
06-12-2004, 05:18
Milan have scouts??? I mean good scouts. :w154:

rae
06-12-2004, 07:07
IF you can say something with some evidence that will be cool. No point in starting a thread saying, "I think so-and-so is awesome" and then "Forza Milan" and that's it. It is not cool at all.
Relax man... take it easy.... our Dave is very young and unexpierenced.... he need time to adjust here in MM.... as the time passes he become a great poster anyway.... so patience and you will be heard ;)

:cheers:

almilan
06-12-2004, 07:18
He has a get out clause for 11m, expensive for an 18 year but I think he has the potential to be a great player for milan. it will come down to who we (Gallini,Silvo, Carlo) want more Bojinov or Gila. we wont sign both of them. here is report from www.channel4.com


Valeri Bojinov may have signed a new contract at Lecce last week – but he is available for transfer at £11m.

The striker extended his agreement until 2009 but he’s now revealed details of a clause that will allow an exit before then.

The 18-year-old sensation will be sold if a bid of £11m is received by the Stadio Via Del Mare outfit.

"I am very happy with my contract because I got everything that I asked for," the Bulgarian stated.

"Lecce are now obliged to accept an offer from any club who are ready to pay £11m for my services."

The teenager is one of the hottest properties in the European game right now and numerous clubs admire him.

Milan, Inter and Juventus have all been associated with a swoop given his development in Serie A.

However, there is a possibility that the player could move abroad with Barcelona, Arsenal and Chelsea linked.

RVG91
06-12-2004, 07:22
Our current crop of Milan strikers looks great on paper- but in practice its less than dazzling. Pippo's talent and skill is undoubted but his injury worries mean we haven't yet been able to see the best of Inzaghi and he hasn't been able to nurture a partnership with Shevchenko. Crespo is hitting a patch of form, but only time will tell and his situation will have to be assessed at the end of the season. Tomasson has been less than at his best this season, with poor form and injuries meaning he hasn't quite lived up to his standards yet. We definitely need to bring in a striker at the end of the season as it appears that at least one of our 3 back up strikers (back up to Sheva) is either off form or would be injured next season. A 5th top drawer striker would definitely strengthen the squad and give us that edge in the final third of the pitch.

Bojinov would be a good option but a huge gamble, The thing with Bojinov is he's a hot talent right now, but he's still unproven over two seasons. Last year he did have a decent haul, but nothing to suggest the brilliance of his current season. It'd be a gamble to buy him at the end of this season, because his consistency is yet unproven. That having been said if we DON'T snap him up at the end of the season no doubt Juve or Chelsea will...

If we did spend the 11 million pounds on Bojinov I'd bet that Milan's coaching staff could definitely draw the best from the young Bulgarian and turn him into a goal machine.

That having been said a better option in the form of Gilardino would be my choice. He had a blistering season with a buoyant Parma team last year, bagging 23 goals and being runner up to Shevchenko in the Serie A scoring lists and has backed that up with 7 goals this season for a lacklustre Parma. He's proven he has the skill to make the grade in Serie A for more than a year. Milan's staff could groom him into an even more potent attacker, with considerable less gamble than with Bojinov.

Either striker would be a welcome addition, but in terms of risk, Gilardino represents the better option.

almilan
06-12-2004, 07:25
i agree with you, Gilardino probably is the better option.

Giovanni
06-12-2004, 07:58
I tell ya more..Gilardino is potentially a more skillful Van Nistelrooy in years to come

i don't compare him to Pippo even though some movements remind of him, but Van Nistelrooy is the man he reminds me, for his ability to be a great referring point for the midfield and being able to hod the ball so well

Gila makes an incredible work on other defences, putting pressure..he's a player that if you don't pay attention for a while he scores (as we saw in parma-milna) therefore he, even without doing anything, keep other defences alarmed and worried
In Italy we saY " fa reparto da solo" which can be roughly translated "he's able to be the whole attack alone"

RVG91
06-12-2004, 08:08
The thing with Gilardino which might make for a sticky situation is how he gels with Shevchenko. Gilardino- for many seasons- was stuck in the shadows of main men strikers at Parma (for example Marco Di Vaio then later Adriano) and his strike rate was unimpressive. Having him play with Shevchenko (who would undoubtedly be the main striker) would see him have to adopt a new role and it'd be a sad story to see him fade into the shadows as he did at Parma.

That having been said, Shevchenko has played well alongside Pippo before so he's shown he can play with another main striker. I know a few posters have commented how they prefer Shevchenko playing the main role (Haroon's name stand out in my memory) and I have to agree- when he HASN'T played alongside Pippo (due to injury to Pippo) he's exploded- for example last season. If Gilardino can recede into a less main man role and just support Sheva it'd be a good partnership- question is can Gilardino play that role and can he still bag a good number of goals from that role?

rae
06-12-2004, 08:10
I tell ya more..Gilardino is potentially a more skillful Van Nistelrooy in years to come

i don't compare him to Pippo even though some movements remind of him, but Van Nistelrooy is the man he reminds me, for his ability to be a great referring point for the midfield and being able to hod the ball so well

Gila makes an incredible work on other defences, putting pressure..he's a player that if you don't pay attention for a while he scores (as we saw in parma-milna) therefore he, even without doing anything, keep other defences alarmed and worried
In Italy we saY " fa reparto da solo" which can be roughly translated "he's able to be the whole attack alone"
oh yeah....I love things Ruudie is doing each match he plays..... pressure pressure pressure.... he never stops running if a ball is around 25 meters him.... as Gila is the same type player I do esteem him even more :cool:

Giovanni
06-12-2004, 08:20
The thing with Gilardino which might make for a sticky situation is how he gels with Shevchenko. Gilardino- for many seasons- was stuck in the shadows of main men strikers at Parma (for example Marco Di Vaio then later Adriano) and his strike rate was unimpressive. Having him play with Shevchenko (who would undoubtedly be the main striker) would see him have to adopt a new role and it'd be a sad story to see him fade into the shadows as he did at Parma.

That having been said, Shevchenko has played well alongside Pippo before so he's shown he can play with another main striker. I know a few posters have commented how they prefer Shevchenko playing the main role (Haroon's name stand out in my memory) and I have to agree- when he HASN'T played alongside Pippo (due to injury to Pippo) he's exploded- for example last season. If Gilardino can recede into a less main man role and just support Sheva it'd be a good partnership- question is can Gilardino play that role and can he still bag a good number of goals from that role?


Shevchenko is not the main man, if you mean the box striker..keeping him inside the box means killing his game made of movement from the flanks to the center, from the right side to the left, which end inside the box as deadly finisher, but he's not a first striker; there's no discussion about it, he's a wide second striker and every game proves it (remember manchester when he fooled montero on the right to get inside the box and shoot?)
He's always been a second striker making loads of movement, and personally i think he would be perfect with Gila, which is a completely different player, who stays still inside the box and plays as the tower inside the box.

Both are deadly and we would add multiple choices to our game, Gila is a great header despite being less than 6 feet tall. They will be a great partnership i'm totally coninced about it, because Gila can play very well with partners, having great technical skills.

ACM
06-12-2004, 08:28
Milan have signed Caracciolo according to Italian radio and several Milan sites!

Forza Milan

rae
06-12-2004, 08:34
Who is he? Where did you find that?

Giovanni
06-12-2004, 08:39
Milan have signed Caracciolo according to Italian radio and several Milan sites!

Forza Milan
firstly it's not true..it's far from even being in making..we have a slight interest in him, and if we really do, he will go to parma as part of the gilardino's deal

ACM
06-12-2004, 08:52
It is a transfer rumor like everything else until Milan declare it official ;)

Forza Milan

Giovanni
06-12-2004, 09:37
It is a transfer rumor like everything else until Milan declare it official ;)

Forza Milan
maybe..i don't say it's unlikely, i merely point out it's not even a deal closed

Maltese Charlie
06-12-2004, 11:51
It is a transfer rumor like everything else until Milan declare it official ;)

Forza Milan

For those who likes reading about transfer rumors, have some more below from Goalcity.com

Milan, l'erede di Cafu è Cassetti: la richiesta del Lecce è di 5 mln
Lun 06 Dic, 1:29 PM

Il Milan sembra aver trovato l'alternativa a Cafu per il futuro. Si tratta di Cassetti, 27 anni, esterno destro del Lecce, che si sta mettendo in evidenza in questa stagione. La richiesta dei pugliesi é di 5 milioni di euro che il Milan potrebbe coprire in parte con la metà di Dalla Bona. In rossoneri sono interessati anche all'attaccante Bojinov, ma la richiesta di 20 mln é considerata eccessiva. Più probabile allore che il Milan chieda un'opzione sul 22enne regista argentino Ledesma, scelto come erede di Pirlo.

Controcampo

mk18
07-12-2004, 11:25
i thought this is a bojinov thread

Dave
08-12-2004, 07:48
Relax man... take it easy.... our Dave is very young and unexpierenced.... he need time to adjust here in MM.... as the time passes he become a great poster anyway.... so patience and you will be heard ;)

:cheers:
Thanks for support Rae! :v103: but why Jeff so angry I don`t understand!

rae
08-12-2004, 07:51
not at all, pal... :rone: combine us together :mex:

ac_milan_foreva
15-01-2005, 15:04
bojinov is really really good. he can be the future striker for us. better buy him now before his price tag becomes $100 m. besides he is from the same country as me. he might be the next shevchenko :p286:

Giovanni
15-01-2005, 15:20
He's quality..we'll complain not to have signed him in years to come. He's a cracking player, but i think his price is very high.

Btw he was discovered in a small pitch in Malta..Franco, one day could be your chance to play for ...Juve :diablo:

Dave
17-01-2005, 10:46
I agree wit Acmilan_Foreva better sign him now!

Reza
31-01-2005, 13:01
So he is off to Fiorentina....
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Fiorentina, acquistato Bojinov dal Lecce
In cambio di 13 milioni di euro e del cileno Valdes


FIRENZE - La Fiorentina ha acquistato l'attaccante bulgaro Valeri Bojinov, 18 anni, dal Lecce. Alla società salentina vanno 13 milioni di euro e il centrocampista cileno Jaime Andres Valdes.

gazzetta.it

oskarius
31-01-2005, 13:45
Wow..fiorentina bought Bojinov & Pazzini..it could become fierce attack with Miccoli already there..
well, maybe this is the best option as he wasn't bought by our closest rivals or stupid chelsea..still think Gila is the best option for us..waiting for summer market to open..

almilan
31-01-2005, 13:59
big surprise in my opinion thought he go to a bigger club if he was to leave and didnt think he would leave until the summer.


I have a feeling that this thread become very active again some time in 2006-07 as i dont see him staying at fiorentina that long

report from www.channel4.com

Fiorentina land £10m Bojinov Monday 31 January, 2005

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The transfer window has closed with a bang after Fiorentina signed Lecce starlet Valeri Bojinov.

The Viola netted the teenager after their bid of £9.3m, plus Chilean midfielder Jaime Andres Valdes, was accepted by the Via Del Mare outfit.

The switch comes as a major surprise as Lecce had recently insisted that the Bulgarian would remain with them until the end of the season.

Bojinov’s destination is also a shock given that Chelsea and Palermo were understood to be leading the chase for his signature.

The 18-year-old, who was also being watched by Barcelona, Milan and Juventus, is one of the most exciting prospects in Italian football after a splendid season so far.

The international striker, who made his Serie A debut at the age of 15, has netted 11 League goals this term.

Fiorentina had been looking for a new forward since the window opened, having shown an interest in Lazio's Roberto Muzzi, Julio Cruz of Inter, Liverpool's Milan Baros and Bernardo Corradi of Valencia.

Bojinov becomes the club's third signing of the day after the arrivals of midfielder Marco Donadel from Milan, via Sampdoria, and Atalanta attacker Gianpaolo Pazzini.

Henrik
31-01-2005, 14:12
I am glad we can finally put this thread to rest :)

Giovanni
31-01-2005, 15:33
I am glad we can finally put this thread to rest :)
:sun: :beach: :2dri:

martin
31-01-2005, 16:33
im glad, because this means that in 3 or 4 years we can buy him from fiore if we want him. if he went to chelsea then they wud never sell him

Dave
01-02-2005, 05:24
Fiorentina is getting stronger! :hammer:

iregk
01-02-2005, 07:12
True, but if he stays there for 4 years, remember by that time Sheva will be looking at the dusk, pipo retired and Milan in need of some new talent up front. He will only be 22 then!!!! Still a child in the game!!!

Kui
01-02-2005, 08:40
Then he could be a fluke. Like I said in another thread, he still got a lot to prove. The best thing Milan can do is build a laison type of relationship with him. As in the same fashion we have done with Shevchenko and Kaka. We could have gotten them a lot sooner but it's sorta like an insurance wait and see kind of policy Milan appears to have. That way when he's convinced Milan without a doubt, we'll hopefully be on the top of his list.
Bojinov realistically made the right decision for himself. He knows the reality of not playing a starting role in Milan. Thats the worse thing that can happen to a player. Not enough playing time because the team was still yet too big for his boots. Let him grow and develope more opening himself up on a test drive. It's very rare to have A Maldini start like that so young and become so great. Maldini and a very few others are a rare exception. The other great players have gone the way of Bojinov.

Henrik
01-02-2005, 10:34
I am glad we can finally put this thread to rest :)
I guess I was mistaken ;)

Kui
01-02-2005, 11:04
Well you are correct to put the issue of him coming here to rest. Put we just spun of to a whole new thing. That's all.