View Full Version : Would you like to see Mourinho as our coach in the future?
Grenoli_Trio
16-05-2005, 13:23
To me, yes. I strongly recommend you Haroon's CL posts. There you can find some information about Mourinho&Milan. He gives some hints about his plans in the future.
A few months ago Mourinho said " We can be the new AC MILAN" . He didn't say Real, Juve, Inter, Utd., Arsenal or Club X. He said Milan. He knows what Milan's standing in the football world is and he knows what Milan did starting from Sacchi's reign as coach. For him, Milan is the reference point and learning curve with which he measures how his side(s) is/are doing. He wants to coach Milan in the future as his final call in club coaching and then move on to the Portuguese National Side. Simple plan ... 15 years of coaching. 5 at Chelsea, 5 at a big Italian club (his heart wants Milan but the question is whether Milan would want him in 5 years?) and 5 years with the NT.
When Mourinho arrived at Chelsea he didn't like what he saw with regards to mentality of the squad, players, staff and management staff etc. He said "When I arrived at Chelsea the mentality wasn't right. When you walk into a club like MILAN you can see and feel the self-belief of the players and staff. You can feel an air of confidence and a tradition of winning. I tried to change the mentality of the players and give them the self-belief which is very important in football"
To tell the truth, i never wanted to see him as Milan's coach until I read his comments about Milan. But my thoughts totally changed. He does not like losing, nor do we. And it is so obvious, he is the best coach in the world now: motivates the team very well, great tactician, when compared to Ancelotti, he is a genius. And moreover, he seems to be a good Milan fan. I do know it is too early to express what is on my mind but i am soooo excited guys. He can create an unreachable team in history. The idea and possiblity of that makes me crazy so far.
Maradona (10)
16-05-2005, 13:41
No, thanks.
:irritate:
Gio-mania
16-05-2005, 13:55
i dunno................
ancelotti has so much more to contribute.........
and i wouldnt like such an arrogant coach, he'd ruin milans image..
He's one of, if not THE best motivational coach in the world ... of that there is no doubt. But the overall best ? No, i don't think so.
He's not a tactical genius that's for sure, the only tactical thing that's worth any mention is putting Gudjohnson into midfield, that's about it. I don't see anything about his formation that is a revelation. For getting the best out of people he's very good, but there are other coaches who are better rounded in overall talent ... like Capello or Benitez.
His arrogance though is the biggest down point. It was ok to start with, yeah it's funny and amusing ... but Chelsea can neither win with grace or lose with humility now, they are so far up themselves because of him. If he kept control over it, that's fine ..... or kept it private then no problem. But he just looks a fool sometimes. The semi-final against Liverpool said it all. He couldn't be bothered to get his team to attack because he was so confident they'd win at Anfield. All his players thought the same and they were made to look stupid because of it. That's not the kind of thing we need.
Grenoli_Trio
16-05-2005, 14:14
Absolutely not. According to my experience, coach does not ruin a team's image. In spite of Mourinho, many people think Chelsea played the best football this year.
Grenoli_Trio
16-05-2005, 14:18
Except for defence, Chelsea's squad is not world class imho. He did really well this year, no doubt. In semi finals, if his stupid players were a bit better, he would be playing against us.
Except for defence, Chelsea's squad is not world class imho. He did really well this year, no doubt. In semi finals, if his stupid players were a bit better, he would be playing against us.
Then perhaps he is not such a great coach of motivating his players, right?
Anyway, I do not mind seeing him here, but only when Ancelotti is not producing results. But, given that he is not a Milan player in the past, and the fact that Galliani said they'll only hire Milan's past players, I doubt if the management will do that.
But who knows?
Only the media sycophants think that Chelsea played the best football this season. Don't get me wrong, they played very well in stages, particularly the middle part of the season where they were very good ... but at the start and near the end they were nothing special at all.
Maybe he should have done his job properly and kept his players feet on the ground instead of believing all this hype sh*t about already being in the final.
jim said what i wanted to say
Grenoli_Trio
16-05-2005, 16:42
Then perhaps he is not such a great coach of motivating his players, right?
Jeff, i cant say so. I find him very successful about motivating his players. Lampard or Terry announced once that they played for Mourinho and dedicate the victory to him.(i think after barcelona match) As we see after matches, he goes next to his players and celebrates them or shakes their hands after losing a match.
For these reasons, i do not think he has problems about motivating his players but i meant some stupid shoots in the match such as Gudjohnsen's in 95th minute.
Is it really possible to disagree with and detest every single proposition of a man? Until I met this Grenoli character I didn't think so.
Grenoli_Trio
16-05-2005, 16:49
He won almost every single cup in Europa and more successful than Ancelotti at the moment. He did much better with worse squads, generally speaking. Please read what he thinks about Milan one more time. I am really proud of what he thinks about us. He seems to work harder to become Milan's and National team's coach. And people who do that from heart like Gattuso must always be considered. The best coach in the world announces that he must make team play like Milan. But this Milan is not only our present team but the tradition of LEGENDARY Milan. I am sure he used to watch Milan in 1989 and said ''I will become their coach some day''
He won almost every single cup in Europa and more successful than Ancelotti at the moment. He did much better with worse squads, generally speaking. Please read what he thinks about Milan one more time. I am really proud of what he thinks about us. He seems to work harder to become Milan's and National team's coach. And people who do that from heart like Gattuso must always be considered. The best coach in the world announces that he must make team play like Milan. But this Milan is not only our present team but the tradition of LEGENDARY Milan. I am sure he used to watch Milan in 1989 and said ''I will become their coach some day''
fine... then please stop trying to convince us to replace ancelotti.. when that day comes... it comes!...
ur worse than peachtots obssesion with ronaldinho :guw:
ACMILAN1983
16-05-2005, 17:01
I wouldn't mind Maurinho at Milan at some point, as I rate him VERY highly, but for now we have Carlo and I'm happy with him to stay
To me, yes. I strongly recommend you Haroon's CL posts. There you can find some information about Mourinho&Milan. He gives some hints about his plans in the future.
To tell the truth, i never wanted to see him as Milan's coach until I read his comments about Milan. But my thoughts totally changed. He does not like losing, nor do we. And it is so obvious, he is the best coach in the world now: motivates the team very well, great tactician, when compared to Ancelotti, he is a genius. And moreover, he seems to be a good Milan fan. I do know it is too early to express what is on my mind but i am soooo excited guys. He can create an unreachable team in history. The idea and possiblity of that makes me crazy so far.
That quoted part was posted by me. :D At first I thought that which newspaper copied that but then I realized that that is an excerpt from my post. ;)
Mourinho would come to Milan but not now ... 4 years down the line when he has coached in England for 5 years with Chelsea.
No to that poseur Mourinho. The Chelsea players seem to belong to a Jose-worshipping cult (as does most of the English media), but I don't think he could have fooled people like Costacurta and Maldini. I don't care how much Mourinho admires Milan. All that proves is that he's not totally ignorant about football.
Grenoli_Trio
16-05-2005, 17:20
All that proves is that he's not totally ignorant about football.
hahah that is funny Ruffian.
I would like to see Mourinho, Simply because I feel that the amount of success he has achieved in the past 3 years has only seen in PS2 and CM before, he knows what he doing, he might be arrogant, but he stiil knows what he is doing. :gun:
triniman
16-05-2005, 20:39
good graces...can you give this thing a rest...i for one am alomst totally tired of reading post after post about you disregarding ancelotti in some form or fashion......
albertini_forever
16-05-2005, 22:13
he's gergous .. and very2 sexy guys .. ohh la la
:D :D :D :D
good graces...can you give this thing a rest...i for one am alomst totally tired of reading post after post about you disregarding ancelotti in some form or fashion......
You're missing the subtleties, triniman. This thread is not about how awful Ancelotti is, it's about how wonderful Mourinho is. Of course, I don't agree with either statement, but Grenoli_Trio has a right to try to convince us.
Now, how would you like to take part in a debate with him and Bayman? I'd pay to see that one. :tong:
sehnsucht79
17-05-2005, 02:15
I dont know how else to put it but personally if Mourinho came to Milan I dont think Milan would be Milan, and that would be a real shame.
i think our next boss will be a former milan player but if its not i would love mourinho, his record speaks for itself and he always brings a smile to my face when he is talking, he is very funny. arrogant but in a funny way
can he speak italin?
sehnsucht79
17-05-2005, 06:34
Arrogant and though the teams he coached are good; chelsea are sore losers and Porto was a shame at the UEFA cup final
Not too sure if he can speak Italian, but didnt he work as a translator before becoming a footie coach though?
I think mourinho's alright, even as a Man U supporter you kind of warm to him. He's one of the games real characters and his arrogance may get the better of him sometimes but he knows how to make a joke about it.
I think he obviously is one of the top managers in the game and yes if we where managerless and could have anyone he'd certainly be on the wish list (though I think Frank Rijkaard would be the boards top choice right now) but this is all just IF we didn't have one of the best managers in the game ourselves.
Mourinho is great coach, in few years he will be lot smarter and he will settle a bit. In milan he wouldnt be so arrogant as he has to respect serie a and milans managament. But after ancelotti milam will be runned by some former milan player. Tassotti, baresi, donadoni...
Warro Bantan
17-05-2005, 16:30
I dont know...:dontkn:I havent the greatest of faiths in Carlo, as successful as he has been, (many here will note that a coach has to be an extremely good one for me to endorse him 100%..or even 95%)..the thing is though, that Carlo has produced the results, if not all at once, at least once every season since his arrival.
But to the issue at hand...Mourinho is a coach who has delivered, with a lot less resources, a UCL trophy, and now, with more resources than the poor tinkerman could handle, the premiereship title (absent from Chelsea´s trophy room for 50 years)..so he has produced results.
His arrogance...hey, I have been called arrogant too, and I didnt loose any sleep over it, and I doubt that he is an insomniac for being called that as well. So that is of little importance to me, though I prefer humility 9 times out of 10. One thing to note however, is that he is rarely disrespectful, something I have no tolerance for, worse from a public figure.
His tactical prowess: Suspect at best, naive at worst...too early in his career to make a value judgement on that...
Motivational skills: Peerless at the moment...gets some players who couldnt make Milans B team to shine, and look like world class athletes.
All in all, probably a good candidate in 4 years time....but until then, my response is the same as the one beginning this post...
I dont know...:dontkn:
one day, why not, hopefully a more sober mourinhio though
arpanmilan
17-05-2005, 22:43
i would not want ancelloti to leave the club,but incase if he leaves i think DAVID MOYES of everton would be the perfect coach 4 milan.this season his club improved on 13places 2 finish 4th in the league.mourihno is just too arrogant.
ii think DAVID MOYES of everton would be the perfect coach 4 milan..
Sorry but :haha:
Everybody talks about his arrogance. He has to pretend like that to run a billion-dollar-team! Coaches like Tavalez would be so easy to be critized by media and fans. I believe next season Molinho won't be so.
He's a great coach, no doubt.
heidi azalea
18-05-2005, 00:17
I'm personally think that, Mourinho is not a best coach for Milan, tho he's a good tactician and his curriculum vitae as a young coach sounds good.
IMO, the problem with him, is his attitude and how he bring himself to the eyes of football fans from all walks of life, all clubs. Milan always reflecting a good image in football, and if Mourinho still can't change his attitude in 4-5 years of time, I don't think he will never be a coach to Milan.
Milan have a good tradition that shouldn't have a crackup. I think Ancelotti is the best coach for Milan now. But if Ancelotti retires/resigns one day, I'd rather see another Milanista to be the coach.
Mauro Tassotti will be the next coach when the time comes. :star: Sureshot.
triniman
18-05-2005, 21:21
tassotti, van basten , rijkard or donadoni...those are the four names i am sure that have been shortlisted as potential replacements when the times comes for carlo to RETIRE from coaching after winning 5 CL titles
If one day Ancelotti decides to leave us, I would rather see Tassotti on the bench.
Mauro Tassotti will be the next coach when the time comes. :star: Sureshot.
Agreed, after Carlo he knows the players and the system best. I think he been there for three years now and hopefully at least a few more years. that should be enough to take over.
MVB has alot to prove and Rijkard has shown some poor errors in judgement this season, but then again who hasnt.
heidi azalea
19-05-2005, 23:31
Just a thing to ponder :
Do you all want to see Mourinho at our neighbour,(I mean Inter ) ?
What he can do for Inter ?
Grenoli_Trio
19-05-2005, 23:46
Absolutely not. He clearly states that he admires the italian football because it is of high level tactics, effort and defence. He is a real winner. We have to confess this. Chelsea is a team which is much more than an English team. Their defence is much better compared to English teams and they are one of the best counter attacker teams in the world.
Chelsea's squad is obviously exaggerated, you know media. Moreover, we have one more good example about Mourinho: Porto. Porto's squad was not so good for to win Champions League cup.
To sum up, Inter Milan is out of motivation because of terrible results they had for years. Mourinho is real expert on this, he likes italian football, he really proved himself i mean he almost won all trophies in Europa. If you give this guy, a much better squad than Chelsea's, I think we will the be ones who are unhappy about that.
tassotti, van basten , rijkard or donadoni...those are the four names i am sure that have been shortlisted as potential replacements when the times comes for carlo to RETIRE from coaching after winning 5 CL titles
Yeap, thats the most likely scenario. I honestly, would pull Van Basten out of the mix if he does nothing with Holland. He also makes weird call ups to the Dutch squad.
Tassotti would need to have a managerial post somewhere else before coming back as manager.
Donadoni is a good candidate but has done nothing that great so far. Time will tell.
If Rijkaard continues to do great with Barca, he is my favourite to take over from Ancelotti. His style of play is the best and I can imagine us playing a Ronaldinho-Kaká-Sheva (or even Gilardino :D) formation similiar to Ronaldinho-Giuly-Eto'o formation he uses at Barca.
I wouldn't mind Maurinho at Milan at some point, as I rate him VERY highly, but for now we have Carlo and I'm happy with him to stay
Me too! I hate him and his Chelsea though maybe one day we can try!
:swars:
No. He does not have the quality to make players happy. I think he is a control freak that will only bring a circus or soap opera type drama to Milan. We dont need some freak shows hitting us like this. He is a man that eminates nothing but negaive energy. And least of all a charismatic "I like this guy" kind of person. It will only make people loathe and hate us for no other reason than this guys personal ego. I dont want this guy to draw unwanted heat and attention to the Club.
Grenoli_Trio
21-05-2005, 06:32
It will only make people loathe and hate us for no other reason than this guys personal ego
I doubt that people hate us. Even now after watching star wars episode 3, there are so many people around who are addicted to Dark Side :respect:
Grenoli_Trio
25-05-2005, 18:37
Hi again!
I would not want be back to this thread after such a big nightmare but....
First of all, except some mistakes, Ancelotti did really well tonight. We played so good except for 6 minutes.
But... Guys, i think we suffer a big trauma. Since last year, we are starting to remember Deportivo match whenever our competitor scores a goal in big matches. That is something phycological.
I am sorry for saying that but it is time to make some changes.
i like
Carlos Biancchi :5schal:
Ancelotti, go away !!!!
ac_milan_foreva
25-05-2005, 22:17
i like
Carlos Biancchi :5schal:
Ancelotti, go away !!!!
no way dude...
how many european sides has he managed???
carlo will stay. its not his fault..
i think a lot of ppl are to blame starting with dida and ending with sheva... it was the wost game i hve seen as a milan supporter. its even worse then the depor one.......
dude
CARLETTO had terrible changes
always met ambrosini
its always the same
AC MILAN, need a radical change, from the DT
Shevchenko7
26-05-2005, 00:15
No way.
I hate Mouinho.
Ancelotti should stay, he has done a tremendous Job here at Milan.
vickirin
26-05-2005, 14:56
No thanks we have a better coach
ac_milan_foreva
26-05-2005, 18:26
dude
CARLETTO had terrible changes
always met ambrosini
its always the same
AC MILAN, need a radical change, from the DT
nonononono
if u change than it will prolly not work out in the begining. besides berlusconi said he doesnt sack anyone so unless ancelotti resigns he is staying.
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