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Hitman
18-05-2005, 07:25
From Channel4.com:

Lazio defender Massimo Oddo will be added to the Milan squad at the end of the current campaign.

The Rossoneri have been looking for a new right-back and the Italian international will reportedly make the move north.

The San Siro outfit are looking for a quality alternative to Marcos Cafu and they’ve opted for Oddo - despite also tracking Reggina’s Giandomenico Mesto, Marco Cassetti of Lecce and Parma’s Daniele Bonera.

The Biancocelesti are ready to sell the former Verona player, who was also being monitored by Inter and Juventus, for as little as £3.5m.

Oddo was actually spotted in Milan on May 9, when he was in the ‘Moscova’ area of the city, which is close to the club’s headquarters.

Oddo, who is a penalty expert, is in favour of the switch given that he is a massive fan of the club.

The full-back is also familiar with his proposed new surroundings as he started his career as a youngster at Milan, spending two years there before his 1995 switch to Fiorenzuola.

Milan have also seemingly already looked to strengthen their left-back options for the new campaign.

They are understood to have agreed to sign Udinese’s Marek Jankulovksi in the summer, even if no official announcement has been made.

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I think Oddo would be a good signing. We have lacked backup for Cafu this season, although we have both Stam and Simic - none of them are natural right backs.

ACMILAN1983
18-05-2005, 09:07
Could be a good signing, though like I've said elsewhere, I do think people overrate him a little and there are better alternatives available.

jani
18-05-2005, 09:27
for £3.5m, I couldnt care less if he is overrated or not.

Thats the perfect price for a short term investment.

Im pretty sure Cafu's long term replacement will be Brazillian.

(Mancini after Roma gets relegated :D)

Henrik
18-05-2005, 09:52
I agree with Dev that he may be overrated a bit, but the good thing about Oddo is that he was developed in the Milan youth teams.

rae
18-05-2005, 09:54
That would be one of those signings so called "brilliant transfers od Galliani". I can bet that Oddo wont let us down.

Warro Bantan
18-05-2005, 09:56
Yup, I always endorse taking a player back into the fold...he should perform above his normal efforts just for the privilidge of playing in the red and black....

Apparently he is a big Milan fan, and this to me is very important, as this will cause him to give more effort than if he was just playing for pay...

If this is actual and factual, then...welcome Oddo...looking forward to having you on the squad...

mk18
18-05-2005, 12:16
the source is reliable, the player i like alot, the price is reasonable.... all i can say if it indeed turns out true is:



YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!

Christopher
18-05-2005, 12:20
I like the name "ODDO" its odd.

Jim_UK
18-05-2005, 13:07
I thought this might make mk happy :D

I'm not sure what other rb's you could get for £3.5 million ?? In fact the only decent rb's i can think of are Trabelsi (poor year due to injury), Reveillere (looks to have everything, but could he adapt from the French league), Ramos (amazing potential but would be £10 million and at 19 that's alot of money) ... maybe Sagnol and then the usual Bonera, Cassetti and Mesto.

If we give them Simic, maybe we could knock it down to just £1 million ??

I.M.O.
18-05-2005, 17:25
Oddo is a nice solution.reveillere?no,thanks he
cant play in serie a as he plays in france imo.
Bonera?hell no he's totally overrated he sucks

triniman
18-05-2005, 21:15
sounds good to me....and for the cost...hell yeah...

well done to our VP again...another great signing for little or no money

Xudong
18-05-2005, 21:22
I like the name "ODDO" its odd.

exactly. :grinser: When we played Lazio at home, Lazio got a penalty. The video was awful, so I could barely see who was going to take it. All the four letters on his back were square in shape, and I was wondering who the heck this "0000" was. :wallbang:

jani
19-05-2005, 01:41
Now we wont need to rely on Cafu too much. The burden is off him a little.


But I read Channel 4, and it says MANCINI may be available for transfer! Now honestly, this guy is my dream buy but sadly, he looks more destined to leave Roma for Valencia :(

elisha
19-05-2005, 04:04
Good news for milan, as the price is quite reasonable.
Mancini is definitely better than oddo, but i dont beliver roma will be relegated

rae
19-05-2005, 04:15
I have heard somewhere that we are offerin Lazio two players for Oddo... but I do not know who exactly.... :rollani:

elisha
19-05-2005, 04:24
pozzi and abate

mk18
19-05-2005, 04:39
I thought this might make mk happy :D

I'm not sure what other rb's you could get for £3.5 million ?? In fact the only decent rb's i can think of are Trabelsi (poor year due to injury), Reveillere (looks to have everything, but could he adapt from the French league), Ramos (amazing potential but would be £10 million and at 19 that's alot of money) ... maybe Sagnol and then the usual Bonera, Cassetti and Mesto.

If we give them Simic, maybe we could knock it down to just £1 million ??

you probably think im an oddo freak! ... ok i like the signing but to be honest i wouldve preffered if we got him next year instead

to me oddo is definatly better than mancini

rae
19-05-2005, 04:52
:rollani:... I do not want to give Pozzi..... IMO he can grop up into a great guy... btw, who is Mesto?

mrki
19-05-2005, 06:00
Oddo is great signing for us. You'll see. Hell improve his game by 20% in milan. In lazio he plays pretty good but in ssan siro he'll be even better. He can also run all day long and cross well, good job galliani.

rae
19-05-2005, 06:05
MILAN CLOSE IN ON ODDO

Milan are close to a deal for Lazio right-back Massimo Oddo as they seek to freshen up an ageing backline.

The 27-year-old has been one of the high points of a disappointing campaign for Lazio, and has established himself as a regular in the Italian national team.

Milan boss Carlo Ancelotti has cut down veteran right-back Cafu's Serie A workload and would like a genuine replacement for the great Brazilian.

Cash-strapped Lazio should accept an offer of around five million euros for their star defender.

Issue: Eurosport (http://www.eurosport.com/home/pages/v4/l0/s22/e6873/sport_lng0_spo22_evt6873_sto720096.shtml)When does his contract with Lazio expire?

rae
19-05-2005, 06:29
AC Milan have agreement for Lazio's Oddo
May 19, 2005

AC Milan have reportedly sealed a deal for Lazio fullback Massimo Oddo.

Virgilio Sport says the Italy international has agreed terms with Milan which will see him move from Lazio in exchange for two young Rossoneri players.

The agreement was struck on May 2 and a source close to negotiations say the transfer will happen for sure.

Issue: Tribalfootball (www.tribalfootball.com)I would be gald to know that tribalfootball is eventually right :tong: :D

sehnsucht79
19-05-2005, 08:03
3.5m is a great price to get Oddo for. Personally I think hes just average but he'll probably become a better player when hes in Milan. So, yeah, a good deal.

sehnsucht79
19-05-2005, 08:07
:rollani:... I do not want to give Pozzi..... IMO he can grop up into a great guy... btw, who is Mesto?

I THINK he plays for Reggina, not too sure. But hes been dubbed as the 'new cafu'

Billy_Montreal
19-05-2005, 08:17
I think Oddo is a really good buy and does not rank with the Pancaro i.e. safety/band-aid purchases. He is a NT player (on and off) and in my opinion in the top half of Italian defenders out there. I think many will be pleasantly surprised to the contributions and help he gives this team.

jani
19-05-2005, 08:24
The new Cafu is undoubtly Mancini.

Remember he scored in the Rome derby once? What a classic goal that was.

mk18
19-05-2005, 14:34
just how many new cafus are there??? ... i swear ive heard around 7 of them

zlatanov
19-05-2005, 14:53
or more like 0 - there is nobody who can match Cafu just people who could try to fill in for him when he is gone.

mk18
19-05-2005, 15:03
exactly... but what i meant is that its pathetic how many players have been dubbed as the new cafu... from daniel alves to belletti to oddo to mancini to mesto to cassetti ... etc

Maradona (10)
19-05-2005, 16:43
What are the requirements to be the next Cafu? Really...

zlatanov
19-05-2005, 19:04
To be very fast and have the lungs to run for 90 min along that touch line and not just for the first half of the game; to have great tecnique and be devastating in attack and very good defensively; but above all being able to play using your head and not just your legs.

K77SH C
19-05-2005, 19:35
If we are honest we will be extrememly lucky to get another player like Cafu. The guy really is one of those players that come around every so often. Cafu does have one weak point though. Its clear no one will have the same energy, but maybe his successor can make up for this by doing the one thing Cafu isnt that good at. Cafu always gets into brilliant posititions, but his crossing really lets him down. IF his replacement can attack half as much as him and be a pretty solid defender AND put in some good crosses then I for one will be happy.

K77SH C
19-05-2005, 19:40
We have apparently agreed to sign Sao Paulo right back Angel Baptista. Hes the latest "New Cafu". He even looks like him. Heres a picture:

Xudong
19-05-2005, 19:49
We have apparently agreed to sign Sao Paulo right back Angel Baptista. Hes the latest "New Cafu". He even looks like him. Heres a picture:

That is not Cafu? Seriously?

K77SH C
19-05-2005, 19:52
No thats Angel Baptista

almilan
20-05-2005, 04:51
i think oddo is a good signing, i set up a thread about him when there were 1st rumours of his transfer so glad we got him

sehnsucht79
20-05-2005, 05:12
Having 'new cafus' is one thing, having dozens of 'new zidanes and ronaldos' are another. Now THOSE can get irritating.

It seems like Milan is very close to signing Oddo. If its for 3.5m, ah, shyte. Thats a pretty damn good deal.

meazza
20-05-2005, 05:36
a new cafu is as rare as a new zidane though. Cafu is just the classic wing back defender ever, and anyone in a similar mould will have traits similar to him, just like how any punk band ultimately is going to have to compare themselves with Nirvana.

Jim_UK
20-05-2005, 16:01
This Angel Baptista must like wearing retro tops, because that's not the current one. Must be one of Cafu's old ones. :D

So where did you "hear" this rumour K77SH C ?????? Just so we can be sure of its truth :ilol:

K77SH C
20-05-2005, 18:25
OKOK you got me :diablo:

rae
21-05-2005, 05:36
Guys, I want to ask you if anyone knows in whcih position plays Ignazio Abate, the one who we have on loan in Napoli? Thanx.

sehnsucht79
21-05-2005, 09:03
I think hes a midfielder

Jim_UK
22-05-2005, 08:21
For some reason i keep thinking of him as a right-winger ... or a bit like Esposito of Caligari ...

I'm sure someone will know for sure.

albertini_forever
22-05-2005, 08:58
oddo good player in CM/FM :D :D :D ... and he plays in national team too ... good ... very good signing ...

a new cafu ... there're only one cafu himself ... :D but i think every player has their own style ... so if someone play as rb,play for brazil and has face look like cafu ... i think that's not cafu ...

but i saw maicon in brazil 23's he's good, fast ...

Juve Scudetto ... and the black army's happy ... :D :D :D :D

jani
22-05-2005, 09:03
The only solution for our RB position after Cafu retires is to hire the next Brazillian RB (unless, of course, it's Belletti, I dont like him :()

So the BIG names that we could buy are Maicon and Mancini. And Portuguese Miguel is the closest we can get to Brazillian if we cant get Maicon or Mancini.

sehnsucht79
22-05-2005, 10:13
Just get Mancini. His club is fokin desperate.

Jim_UK
22-05-2005, 12:26
Language Sally :D

I know Cafu isn't the best defensively, but i think Mancini's are even worse. Sure he's younger with time to develop them, but he's not solid enough for us to use at right-back .... he could be thrown on behind the strikers as a sub if we need pace, but not at a right-back ... not at this moment in time.

I read the Channel 4 report of the Lazio game and Oddo seemed to be involved in quite a few parts; good free-kicks, corners, crosses, goal line clearances ... i think he could be a good player for us.

totti_jonaid
23-05-2005, 01:14
Excelllent Oddo is the best I always use to say why not him but now he is almost here. He is the perfect RB to replace or even give a breather to Cafu. This will be great signing.

FORZA MILAN

sehnsucht79
23-05-2005, 01:32
I just dont have that much faith in Oddo and even I dont know why. Hes had a good season this year no doubt but for previous years his name has been popping up yet he never really did any great things. I fear he will just disappoint everybody in the end.

He is the most good looking Italian currently though, next to Pippo of course

jani
23-05-2005, 02:44
no one cares sally, no one cares :(

mk18
23-05-2005, 16:05
OKOK you got me :diablo:

but where get the name from? .. angel baptista i mean

K77SH C
23-05-2005, 19:12
Oh I just made it up. Theres a player in La liga called Baptista and angel plays for Aston villa :diablo:

zlatanov
23-05-2005, 22:25
Actually, believe it or not there is a player called Julio Baptista who plays for Sao Paulo, Kaka's old team, and he is a very very good midfielder - often features for the national team - who seems to be somewhat of a favourite among Brazil fans. They actually prefer him over Emerson.

jani
24-05-2005, 00:56
If Im not mistaken he has since moved to Sevilla and now plays as a striker.

zlatanov
24-05-2005, 05:15
']If Im not mistaken he has since moved to Sevilla and now plays as a striker.
I know what you are talking about - one of the best goal scorers in Spain right now - but I am not sure if it's not just a coincidence in the names. The Baptista I am referring to has been excellent in midfield for Brazil and if he is indeed Sevilla's Baptista then he must be one of the most universal players around. I wouldn't mind at all having him at Milan.

jani
24-05-2005, 06:04
Sevilla's Baptista Im pretty sure was bought from Sao Paolo. He was a holding midfielder as well.

Are you talking about the Baptista that scored in Brazil's 7-1 thrashing of Hong Kong? Cause thats Sevilla's Baptista.

zlatanov
24-05-2005, 06:43
Yeah, you are right - they are the same guy. I wouldn't mind him playing for Milan, not at all.
http://www.brasil100porcento.com/eng/novidades_005.asp

" Julio Baptista stands out in Brazil vs. Germany draw

Julio Baptista subbed in as a substitute in the second half of the friendly between Brazil and Germany last Wednesday the 8th of September in Berlin Olympic Stadium, the site of the next World Cup final.

Despite having played for a bit more than 25 minutes in the final stage of the game, J�lio Baptista known to Spanish fans as La Bestia (The Beast) was one of the players that stood out . Replacing Adriano he gave the squad more mobility and agility, playing next to Ronaldo, where he had an excellent shot at hitting home the winner in the 1-1 draw but Oliver Kahn avoided the Brazil win with an exceptional save.

Since he came in as a forward, Julio Baptista showed that he can be a definite wild card playing at all slots being useful to manager Carlos Alberto Parreira in various positions. He can play world class football in midfield either on the right or the left side, in the defensive midfield or even in the "number 10" linkage role between the midfield and the attack as defined by football legend and Brazil staff member Zagallo. The fact is that with the Sevilla duo of Julio Baptista and Renato that Selesao demonstrated better quality football. "

mk18
24-05-2005, 07:32
yeah hes the guy... he even kinda looks like dida (therefore like shomo as well :D)

Jim_UK
24-05-2005, 12:27
Alot of clubs are being linked with Baptista of Seville right now, i wonder if he will move or not.

K77SH C
24-05-2005, 19:32
Sounds like the perfect player for real madrid, they love strikers but need a DM :firedev:

Dr Milano
30-05-2005, 10:06
guys lazio defender right back he is masimmo oddo is coming to milan next season hes agreed to move north i think this is a good signing what do u think he is a penalty expert and played for milan when he was a youth :5schal:

rae
30-05-2005, 10:10
http://www.milanmania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18315
;)

admins, merge em

Grenoli_Trio
03-06-2005, 22:40
Oddo declared that he will stay in Lazio and will extend his contract. What a pity:(

zlatanov
03-06-2005, 23:01
Oddo declared that he will stay in Lazio and will extend his contract. What a pity:(
That's the usual "pillow talk" during the transfer season. I will believe what he said is true only after the season has started and he is still a Lazio player.

Grenoli_Trio
04-06-2005, 02:25
Yes, could be. But if Lazio declared that i think, things would be easier but Oddo declared it and that makes things a bit harder. If Oddo cannot be transfered, Casetti is likely to become next target.

Mehdi
04-06-2005, 21:05
Julio 'The Beast' Baptista was signed as a DM but now plays as a striker. He is an absolute powerhouse but I just don't see where he would fit at Milan - unless he's played as a DM! I don't think his passing is particularly good. He's been linked to Barca.

zlatanov
04-06-2005, 23:46
I also like Baptista a lot - incredibly versatile player who has played with great success at DM, LW, RW, Striker, and even "number 10", can't comment extensively on his passing but I know that Brazilian fans adore him and prefer him to Emerson in midfield.

zlatanov
08-06-2005, 11:02
Paul Le Guen seems to be on the verge of taking over at Lazio - www.goal.com - and this would make Oddo's signing very difficult for us as he is one of the few good players currently at Lazio and Le Guen would be likely to want him stay in Rome.

prifess
08-06-2005, 11:18
what about Bovo, he seems to be good

Henrik
08-06-2005, 12:12
Paul Le Guen seems to be on the verge of taking over at Lazio
I read the article to, but find it hard to believe. Why would a celebrated coach of the French Champions choose Lazio?

zlatanov
08-06-2005, 13:57
I read the article to, but find it hard to believe. Why would a celebrated coach of the French Champions choose Lazio?
because that's the only way he could prove to the big Italian, and not only, teams he is ready to take over one of them - no club of the likes of Milan or Juve would appoint him right out of the French League, he needs to further establish himslef, and Lazio is a good opportunity for him to do just that. Let's not also forget that he has asked for guarantees that the club has plans for a better future and this seems to be the main reason why he hasn't signed already.

Henrik
08-06-2005, 14:11
You have a point, but why not pick a team that actually has some cash so that they could potentially compete for at least a CL spot?

zlatanov
08-06-2005, 14:19
You have a point, but why not pick a team that actually has some cash so that they could potentially compete for at least a CL spot?
because those teams would be teams in order i.e. teams who have management with brains. Such teams already have chosen their coaches plus Le Guen doesn't have the power to decide which team he is gonna lead, they have to want/call him, after all. Benfica already appointed Koeman for next season, the only good team - not sure if they will take part in the CL, though - with coaching uncertainties is Porto, but again they have to call him first.

shoryuken
08-06-2005, 14:31
You have a point, but why not pick a team that actually has some cash so that they could potentially compete for at least a CL spot?


Udinese might be looking for a new coach soon if he fancies a tilt at the CL.

But I can see why he might join Lazio. They are a big club. Imagine if he got them moving upwards... that kind of challenge might be attractive to him.

Henrik
08-06-2005, 15:26
Chelsea picked Mourinho who previously coached Porto, a team that came from a league roughly equal to the French league in quality. I know, Mourinho won the CL, but Lyon didn't do too badly this year either. I just think he could do better than Lazio. But appearently you and more importantly he disagree with me :)

Shoryuken, I don't think Lazio is a big club. They used to be a big club. Napoli and Torino used to be big clubs too. The potetial of a club is not in the name but in the squad, management, funds and fans of which Lazio only has the last.

Jim_UK
08-06-2005, 15:30
If he does go to Lazio, i think it more or less shuts the door to any Oddo transfer, unless it's already done.

I think it's time to move on to Cassetti. We need someone, i can't believe we'll just keep Simic as cover when we hardly play him.

mk18
08-06-2005, 17:49
we should sign him ... hopefully we will!

hitmannq8
09-06-2005, 06:24
Milan Seal Oddo Deal – Report
6/9/2005 7:48:00 AM
The Rossoneri offered a 4-year deal to the Lazio full-back.
According to insistent transfer rumours, Milan and Massimo Oddo have reached an agreement for the Biancoceleste defender to move to Carlo Ancelotti’s side.

Both club officials are expected to meet in the coming days to define the details of the transfer, but the deal seems already sealed.


Thats from goal.com and I find goal.com to be full of crap. But sometimes they are right.

zlatanov
09-06-2005, 06:50
goal.com is like most sites out there but still I don't believe this is true until at least two other report it too. So far, only goal.com has done so and this makes it smell bad.

savicevic
09-06-2005, 07:01
from yahooitalia:

Milan: chiuso l`accordo con Oddo Mer 08 Giu, 11:06 PM

Voci provenienti da Milano affermano che il Milan e Massimo Oddo hanno raggiunto un accordo di massima. Il difensore si è accordato sulle basi di un quadriennale, ma sono sconosciute le cifre. Sarà solo una formalità l`incontro con la dirigenza della Lazio per chiudere l`operazione. Non c`è ancora l`ufficialità da parte del club milanista, ma l`affare sembra concluso.

short translation:

milan have finalised deal to sign oddo. 4 yr contract. there is nothing official form milan's part, but the deal seems to have been finalised.

shevagol_7
09-06-2005, 07:44
Good news now Cafu can get the rest he needs!

shoryuken
09-06-2005, 07:46
Chelsea picked Mourinho who previously coached Porto, a team that came from a league roughly equal to the French league in quality. I know, Mourinho won the CL, but Lyon didn't do too badly this year either. I just think he could do better than Lazio. But appearently you and more importantly he disagree with me :)

Shoryuken, I don't think Lazio is a big club. They used to be a big club. Napoli and Torino used to be big clubs too. The potetial of a club is not in the name but in the squad, management, funds and fans of which Lazio only has the last.

Fair point... I would agree they are on a downwards spiral.. just because I said they are a big club, that doesn't mean I think they are actually any good...

Henrik
09-06-2005, 08:28
just because I said they are a big club, that doesn't mean I think they are actually any good...
which is exactly why I am surprised he picked Lazio :r11:

slicknick
09-06-2005, 08:32
I somehow get the feeling that Oddo's arrival implies the departure of Stam. He used to be an excellent defender and this year he had some amazing displays, however he was getting older and therefore slower, kinda like an overbulky car trying to speed up.
Oddo, I think, might be a little overrated but I feel like he is gonna do a decent job

mk18
09-06-2005, 11:38
thank god ... with oddo here now we can focus on gila

rae
09-06-2005, 11:44
I somehow get the feeling that Oddo's arrival implies the departure of Stam. He used to be an excellent defender and this year he had some amazing displays, however he was getting older and therefore slower, kinda like an overbulky car trying to speed up.
Oddo, I think, might be a little overrated but I feel like he is gonna do a decent jobI guess you mean not Stam but Pancaro :rollani:

greta news with Oddo... I love to see him in rossonero... btw, my recent hair cut is very similar to his :D

Grenoli_Trio
09-06-2005, 11:49
He is unlikely to be transfered this year. Do not trust in rumours.

zlatanov
09-06-2005, 13:23
A glimmer of hope for Oddo - Le Guen has refused to take over Lazio. Their next andidate seems to be Delio Rossi. Oddo must be thinking in red and black now :)
Here is the source:
http://www.calciomercato.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=90664 and here:
http://www.eurosport.com/home/pages/v4/l0/s22/e6873/sport_lng0_spo22_evt6873_sto728720.shtml

ACMILAN1983
09-06-2005, 13:28
Shouldn't be a bad signing.

Welcome home to Oddo :)

Henrik
09-06-2005, 13:42
From Channel 4:

Le Guen rejects Lazio offer
Thursday 9 June, 2005
Delio Rossi is in pole position to land the Lazio job after Paul Le Guen rejected the capital club’s offer.

Biancocelesti President Claudio Lotito was hoping to unveil the Frenchman (pictured) as his new Coach on Monday.

But Le Guen’s agent has this evening revealed that the former Lyon tactician will not be joining the Stadio Olimpico outfit.

"My client will not be coming to Coach Lazio and that is his final decision," stated Federic Guerra.

"Le Guen informed Lazio chief Claudio Lotito of his decision earlier today."

Rossi, who just failed to keep Atalanta in the top flight this term, will now probably replace Giuseppe Papadopulo in Rome.
______________________________________________________________________
Turns out I was right for a change :)

mk18
09-06-2005, 19:50
i have a feeling oddo would be a rossonero by the time next season starts

MATNAT
09-06-2005, 22:16
im not looking forward to oddo... once again a "defender" whose not really good at defending...

i wish we`d sign defenders like gabriele heinze!! that man can defend first of all and is equally good at getting forward, that is the kind of full back i want at milan.

why dont the board sign zaccardo of bologna? hes good both defensively and offensively plus hes young.

i think stam should stay. granted he had an up and down season but i believe he`ll come good in the end as hes highly experienced, played at the top level for so long its only a matter of time before hes settled in that milan team.

Koeke
10-06-2005, 03:02
im not looking forward to oddo... once again a "defender" whose not really good at defending...


we got him as a back up for Cafu this means he should be similar to Cafu...
milan doesn't use wing midfielders but wing backs. so if we would place a real defender right back with very limited attacking skills our entire system wouldn't work unless we change our tactics what we can't do since we don't have real wingers (except maybe serghino but he was also brought into milan as the next best thing after Roberto Carlos)


why dont the board sign zaccardo of bologna? hes good both defensively and offensively plus hes young.


I could be totaly wrong on this one but isn't he half (or completly) owned by juve?

MATNAT
10-06-2005, 09:51
we got him as a back up for Cafu this means he should be similar to Cafu...
milan doesn't use wing midfielders but wing backs. so if we would place a real defender right back with very limited attacking skills our entire system wouldn't work unless we change our tactics what we can't do since we don't have real wingers (except maybe serghino but he was also brought into milan as the next best thing after Roberto Carlos)



I could be totaly wrong on this one but isn't he half (or completly) owned by juve?

zaccardo is in fact owned by palermo and not by bologna. juve do not have co-ownership with palermo so we could buy him.

Franco6
10-06-2005, 11:20
We really need a Cafu backup. Today on italian media, I heard that Cassetti has a bit more chances to join us instead of Oddo. 2 days ago i heard Pelegatti saying that Pancaro may be leaving.... good so that he makes space for our much needed Cafu backup.

totti_jonaid
13-06-2005, 00:51
IT is only matter of a few days when Oddo will arrive here. Here is the link for more details
http://www.goal.com/NewsDetail.aspx?idNews=66286&idSez=20

GREAt for Milan that now they have got a proper back-up for Cafu infact I would not mind him playing ahead of Cafu. Since Oddo has more pace and extra defensive qualities that gives him an edge over Cafu.

albertini_forever
13-06-2005, 05:56
good ... another new player ...
cafu has a backup now ...

kris
13-06-2005, 06:21
Don't claim a dealis done before it is actually done. It is not done until it is official with medical and everything.

zlatanov
13-06-2005, 06:27
actually, this is pretty old news - from 3-4 days ago. An agreement is yet to be reached.

mk18
13-06-2005, 06:55
actually its 1 week old... it says 6/9/2005 on the report... but i still hope he joins

besides maybe we should merge this with the oddo thread

ASHWIN
13-06-2005, 08:57
Finally a worthy back up. Next season,we must get Mancini of Roma. He is someone who can truly replace Cafu

rae
13-06-2005, 11:26
http://www.milanmania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18315

;)

Dave
13-06-2005, 13:07
I really happy(will be) to see him in Milan! And I hope to see!

Dr Milano
13-06-2005, 14:28
I really happy(will be) to see him in Milan! And I hope to see!
yeh s here but y bakup he should play half the time and cafu other half in season lol

shoryuken
13-06-2005, 15:02
Well Oddo seems to be hinting at the move. He is a Milan fan aswell :rone:

Gio-mania
13-06-2005, 15:56
the guy grew up at our team, lets hope he pays back the knowledge we gave him........

rae
13-06-2005, 17:02
Milan wants Oddo but Lazio asks 5€ million
Posted 12 Jun '05, 19:05 PM

Massimo Oddo costs 5€ million: That's the fixed price which Lazio president Lotito has put in the rights for the defender, who is wanted by Milan. The Rossoneri need a back-up for Cafu, while the Biancocelesti also want Massimo Donati on loan. The intention of Galliani is to reduce the transfer fee taking in consideration that he is already 29 years old. Another important point: The salary. Oddo makes 2€ million a year in Rome.

Issue: Goal CityWe have to cut down his price... or to involve other players in that transfer, otherwise Oddo is too pricey... although we badly need him...

zlatanov
13-06-2005, 17:14
I wouldn't call 5 mil euros "pricey" I mean, after all, Oddo is an Italian international, a good - even very good - player who may be closing in on 29 yo but still that's not that old, after all. I am sure that Galliani would try to bring the price down, as is usually the case with all negotiations, but wouldn't call it pricey by all means. It is a very reasonable ASKING price, IMO.

rae
13-06-2005, 17:20
We bought Janku... he was not so cheap IMO... now we are interested in Oddo... if his trasfer take a lot of mony we wont have any for striker affair... I mean Gila... unless we sell one of our players before... or involve another player into Oddo's trasfer... that's my point of view.

Roger Nolli
13-06-2005, 17:22
Great sign!

zlatanov
13-06-2005, 17:29
don't worry, if 5 mil euros would interfere so much with our plans then I guess Berlu had better sell the club and gile for bankrupcy. We haven't spent so much in the past 2-3 years so we should be more than comfortable coping with a transfer like Oddo's. But again, I am sure Galliani will either try to bring it down or more likely pay 3 mil and give them a player like Donati - he is smeone they are interested in, at least according to www.calciomercato.com.
Any possible "big-fish" transfers - like Gila's possible transfer - shouldn't depend on how much we spend on transfer's like Oddo's. I mean, if we were to spend 50 mil euros on Ronaldinho, then I would be worried about Gila's transfer but in this case, getting Oddo is more like putting some final, decorative touches to the team.

mk18
13-06-2005, 21:19
5m pricey???... i thought 3.5 was far too low for him, even 5 million a player like that would cost around 10m .. we should give them what theyre asking for, besides donati isnt needed here

rae
14-06-2005, 10:07
Oddo prefers Milan switch Monday 13 June, 2005

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Lazio full-back Massimo Oddo says he would rather join Milan than title rivals Inter or Juventus.

The defender is expected to be sold this summer and he’s happy that the Rossoneri seem to be in pole position for his signature.

"I would pick Milan given the option," said the Italian international. "I grew up there as a youngster and everyone knows it.

"I’ve read about their interest in me and that is reward for all of the good work that I have done in these years."

However, Oddo is by no means certain that a San Siro switch beckons for him in the near future.

"I still don’t know what will happen," stated the former Verona ace. "I have a contract with Lazio and it depends on the club’s plans.

"I would firstly like to be told of Lazio’s ambitions before I make a decision on whether to stay or go."

Meanwhile, Giuliano Giannichedda has waved goodbye to Lazio after he joined Juventus on a free transfer.

"I would like to say goodbye to everyone," said the midfielder. "I have spent four marvellous years in Rome.

"They were tough but very satisfying at the same time and they’ll always remain in my heart.

"I want to say thank you to my teammates in particular, with whom I shared the honour and privilege of wearing the Biancoceleste shirt."

Issue: Football Italia (http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jun13h.html)5 mio is not so pricey... but concidering we can get him much cheaper it is loox quite big amout of money....

rae
15-06-2005, 15:28
Rottura Galliani Lotito su Oddo
15/06/2005 10.12.00

Il Milan torna su Cassetti e Kaladze spera ancora nel Chelsea.

La Lazio chiede 5 milioni di euro per il difensore Massimo Oddo, il Milan risponde «no, grazie» . E si ributta su Marco Cassetti del Lecce. E’ andato male l’ultimo contatto tra il presidente biancoceleste Claudio Lotito e Adriano Galliani.

Kakhaber Kaladze spera vada, invece, bene il suo: oggi incontra a Mosca il presidente del Chelsea, Roman Abramovic. Il difensore georgiano potrebbe trovare l’accordo con il club inglese: almeno così pensano e scrivono in Georgia. «Sto andando a Mosca e vorrei finalmente capire se il Chelsea mi vuole davvero o no» ha rivelato il giocatore del Milan, 27 anni, a un quotidiano georgiano. «Questo vertice chiarirà le cose - ha poi aggiunto -. So che il Milan non vorrebbe lasciarmi andare, ma non posso fare la riserva a vita».As I ahve said, 5 mio are too much for him... :rollani:

mk18
15-06-2005, 17:52
translation anyone?

oh by the way lolito (lazio prez) said that given the right price oddo might be sold, and he holds a good relationship with galliani

zlatanov
16-06-2005, 06:27
As I ahve said, 5 mio are too much for him... :rollani:
I don't know which Gazzetta dello Sport you saw but I haven't been able to find this neither on their official site nor on calciomercato.com, who often quote Gazzetta.
A link would be very helpful.

Franco6
16-06-2005, 10:03
Rae's quote briefly says

Lazio are asking 5M euros for Oddo and Milan replied no thanks, now they are on Cassetti of Lecce. Everything failed during the last meeting between Lotito and Galliani.

Kaladze today is in Moscow and should meet Abramovic. The georgian defender may agree terms with Chelsea, at least that's what gerorgian media are reporting. Kaladze says 'I'm going to Moscow to see if chelsea really want me or not. I know that Milan don't want to sell me, but I can't remain a reserve for an entire career.'

mk18
16-06-2005, 13:28
i really dont find anything special about cassetti, i think hell turn out to be a flop the way legrotaglie was ... i hope juve interfere and sign him and hope he flops, oddo is a must buy, besides i think the price lecce will be asking for cassetti will be equal if not higher than oddos

rae
17-06-2005, 12:38
I don't know which Gazzetta dello Sport you saw but I haven't been able to find this neither on their official site nor on calciomercato.com, who often quote Gazzetta.
A link would be very helpful.Basically I found this in Goal.com but it was writen a title that this article was taken from Gazzeta dello Sport.... do not know why you have not found it... :dontkn:

http://www.goal.com/NewsDetail.aspx?idNews=67525&idSez=10

zlatanov
17-06-2005, 14:04
I see that you found it on the Italian version of GOAL but still I haven't been able to locate anything even close to this on the official Gazzetta website - www.gazzetta.it/Calcio
Not sure what the problem is but whenever some other site quotes Gazzetta, I usually go there - www.gazzetta.it/Calcio - and look for it. It is often the case when there is no trace of the "original" article.

Dr Milano
17-06-2005, 15:26
I see that you found it on the Italian version of GOAL but still I haven't been able to locate anything even close to this on the official Gazzetta website - www.gazzetta.it/Calcio
Not sure what the problem is but whenever some other site quotes Gazzetta, I usually go there - www.gazzetta.it/Calcio - and look for it. It is often the case when there is no trace of the "original" article.
is oddo gonna come :hmmm: hope he does hes prett y good player :funpc:

rae
17-06-2005, 17:48
Oddo in no rush to leave Lazio Friday 17 June, 2005

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Milan target Massimo Oddo assures fans he is not desperate to leave Lazio, though he admits a move would help his international chances.

“I think I should say that right now I am 100 per cent a Lazio player,” he told SpqRadio. “I cannot give odds on my departure, but I am happy at this club and glad that I have become an important element of the squad.”


The full-back has long been linked with the Rossoneri, but a deal has not been struck and it’s reported the price-tag is considered to be too steep.


Oddo has made no secret of his desire for a step up in his career and is disappointed at the lack of silverware.


“When I arrived here there were different ambitions and objectives for the club and we all faced a difficult financial situation, but that is not a problem for me,” he insisted. “I have a long contract with Lazio and the club will decide my future. I’m sure the outfit will be challenging for honours again soon enough.”


The arrival of new Coach Delio Rossi has also reassured the players of a new era for the Biancocelesti.


“I don’t know him personally, but seeing what he achieved at Lecce and Atalanta I consider him the right man to start again with talented youngsters. Rossi has precise ideas on football and wants to put them into practice.”


Lazio’s problems have seen Oddo slip out of the Azzurri set-up and he could put pressure on for a move to Milan in order to be ready for the 2006 World Cup.


“It’s easier to make your mark with a big club, especially as playing alongside world class teammates raises your game and aids your professional development. In any case, I think Italy Coach Marcello Lippi prefers other players who suit his tactics more than me.”Sh!te... it seems that only more money can make up his mind now... :rollani:

zlatanov
17-06-2005, 19:09
I honestly don't see anything new in the above quote. Oddo reassuring Lazio fans he is gonna be a Laziale for life? Well, what the hell would you expect him, or Totti, or Adriano to say. For the papers and fans he is gonna portray himself as the biggest Lazio fan of all time, while in reality ... he would be dreaming in red-and-black.
Delio Rossi's arrival signaling a new era for Lazio? Yeah, in Serie B that is. The fact that Rossi was one of the few coaches, who didn't refuse to Lazio, shows how low this once glorious club has fallen. And what future can they possibly have with a coach like him? What he did in Atalanta? Well, after they had managed to stay in A under Mondonico, he failed them in Serie B, that's what he did.
Let's be honest - no player in his right state of mind would like stay in Lazio under these conditions with no clear future before the team. If Oddo is still there it is because Milan are probably concentrating on Gila and Crespo's transfers now and only after that they would pay more attention to Oddo.

shevagol_7
17-06-2005, 20:14
I think he will end up in Milan but right now his transfer isn't a priority Gilardino and Crespo are. I am really hoping to see him here. Cafu can only be at a top level for maybe 2 years so he would be a great replacement as well as he can split games with Cafu to give those 35 year old legs a rest.

albertini_forever
18-06-2005, 00:51
zlatanov good post ... really ...
let's hope gila and crespo transper finish soon ...

c'mon milan ....

ASHWIN
18-06-2005, 03:19
I have heard somewhere that we are offerin Lazio two players for Oddo... but I do not know who exactly.... :rollani:


I think they are Donati and Pancaro.I don't think that there is cash involved.
Nonetheless, i'd still prefer Mancini as a permanent replacement.

rae
18-06-2005, 05:45
If Oddo is still there it is because Milan are probably concentrating on Gila and Crespo's transfers now and only after that they would pay more attention to Oddo.The I have one question why did we signed Vogel and Janku, when we were concentrating on Crespo - Gila affair? :rollani:

I guess the problem is not the matter of priority but of money. Oddo is too expencive. Although I bloody want him to see in rossonero :star:

rae
18-06-2005, 06:11
Galliani raises offer for Oddo
Posted 17 Jun '05, 11:55 AM

Adriano Galliani met the Lazio officials yesterday to talk about a possible Oddo transfer. It's a matter of money and Lazio doesn't want to ask less than before. That's why Milan has raised the offer and put 2€ million plus the loan of Pancaro and Donati on the table. Seems that Galliani is raising the price... it means he wants him :D

Dr Milano
18-06-2005, 06:45
Seems that Galliani is raising the price... it means he wants him :D
ok do u know how much tooooo :sagrin:

zlatanov
18-06-2005, 08:16
The I have one question why did we signed Vogel and Janku, when we were concentrating on Crespo - Gila affair? :rollani:

I guess the problem is not the matter of priority but of money. Oddo is too expencive. Although I bloody want him to see in rossonero :star:
Vofel was for free and the van Bommel case - when we let Barca get him before we even got interested in him - made us hurry up. Actually, I think I read that this transfer was done soon after the Milan-PSV games, and not only after the end of the season.
As for Janku, his transfer was done already in January and Milan, Udinese, and the player simply waited until the end of the season to anounce it.
For Oddo, Gila, and Crespo, however, things are yet to be determined and there will be a lot of negotiating going on. Since Galliani ad Braida cannot be in several places at the same time, it is obvious the last two are going to be a priority for us and when all is done and dusted there, it would be Oddo's turn.
On his price, nobody says that Milan will just pay up the first amount of money Lazio throw at them, but for this Galliani and Lotito need to negotiate, and it won't be easy for 5 mil euros for a player like Oddo is far from being a rediculous asking price, and Milan will have very limited array of reasons to bring the price even further down.
My guess is, in the end, Milan will either pay 4-4.5 mi for Oddo or 3.5 and a loan of player like dalla Bona or Boriello.

Dr Milano
18-06-2005, 08:19
Vofel was for free and the van Bommel case - when we let Barca get him before we even got interested in him - made us hurry up. Actually, I think I read that this transfer was done soon after the Milan-PSV games, and not only after the end of the season.
As for Janku, his transfer was done already in January and Milan, Udinese, and the player simply waited until the end of the season to anounce it.
For Oddo, Gila, and Crespo, however, things are yet to be determined and there will be a lot of negotiating going on. Since Galliani ad Braida cannot be in several places at the same time, it is obvious the last two are going to be a priority for us and when all is done and dusted there, it would be Oddo's turn.
On his price, nobody says that Milan will just pay up the first amount of money Lazio throw at them, but for this Galliani and Lotito need to negotiate, and it won't be easy for 5 mil euros for a player like Oddo is far from being a rediculous asking price, and Milan will have very limited array of reasons to bring the price even further down.
My guess is, in the end, Milan will either pay 4-4.5 mi for Oddo or 3.5 and a loan of player like dalla Bona or Boriello.
hope we get all of em :cheers:

zlatanov
18-06-2005, 08:23
Seems that Galliani is raising the price... it means he wants him :D
I am not sure if that article from sport.it is to be trusted for Donati, if I am not mistaken, is already ENTIRELY a Fiorentina player and we have nothing to do with him any more. Until now, I think we owned 50% of him and the rest belonged to Fiorentina.
As for Pancaro, it is possible that his contract with Lazio has expired by now but in general we signed him on a 2-year loan deal and I haven't read or heard anything regarding Milan signing him on a permanent contract, so I just don't see how we could include in Oddo's deal a player, Pancaro, who we don't even own.

albertini_forever
18-06-2005, 08:52
... zlatanov ... good very accurate ... and i hope you post in alberto gilardino thread, to talk about Gila transfer speculation ... :D:D:D:D:D

mk18
18-06-2005, 17:21
I am not sure if that article from sport.it is to be trusted for Donati, if I am not mistaken, is already ENTIRELY a Fiorentina player and we have nothing to do with him any more. Until now, I think we owned 50% of him and the rest belonged to Fiorentina.
As for Pancaro, it is possible that his contract with Lazio has expired by now but in general we signed him on a 2-year loan deal and I haven't read or heard anything regarding Milan signing him on a permanent contract, so I just don't see how we could include in Oddo's deal a player, Pancaro, who we don't even own.
u may be right about pancaro, but as for donati i think ur mixing him with donadel ... donati spent last season with messina, he ours

zlatanov
18-06-2005, 18:42
u may be right about pancaro, but as for donati i think ur mixing him with donadel ... donati spent last season with messina, he ours
yoiu are right, I guess it was donadel who joined la Viola ... oh, dio, we must own half of Serie A :sagrin:

zlatanov
18-06-2005, 18:48
... zlatanov ... good very accurate ... and i hope you post in alberto gilardino thread, to talk about Gila transfer speculation ... :D:D:D:D:D
well, it wasn't that accurate for I guess I confused donati with donadel ... or was it the other way around :d33: ... but still I am certain that if we want Oddo, the only reason why he is still a Laziale is because we have more important business to attend to right now, plus a 5 mil euro ASKING price for a player like Oddo is hardly a obstacle that can't be overcome with some negotiation Galliani-style.
As for posting in the thread on Gila, I guess I am too late for it looks like people there have already gone nuts and can't be saved ... :grinser: :w209:

Dr Milano
19-06-2005, 03:48
well, it wasn't that accurate for I guess I confused donati with donadel ... or was it the other way around :d33: ... but still I am certain that if we want Oddo, the only reason why he is still a Laziale is because we have more important business to attend to right now, plus a 5 mil euro ASKING price for a player like Oddo is hardly a obstacle that can't be overcome with some negotiation Galliani-style.
As for posting in the thread on Gila, I guess I am too late for it looks like people there have already gone nuts and can't be saved ... :grinser: :w209:
ODDO MIGHT NOT COME I DONT THINK LAZIO R GONNA GIVE HIM CHEAP GOOD RIGHT BACK MILAN WILL HAVE TO PAY A RIGHT SUM AND NOT LESS :5roma: :510:

Dil dil
19-06-2005, 23:55
Source: Football Italia

Milan target Massimo Oddo assures fans he is not desperate to leave Lazio, though he admits a move would help his international chances.

“I think I should say that right now I am 100 per cent a Lazio player,” he told SpqRadio. “I cannot give odds on my departure, but I am happy at this club and glad that I have become an important element of the squad.”

The full-back has long been linked with the Rossoneri, but a deal has not been struck and it’s reported the price-tag is considered to be too steep.

Oddo has made no secret of his desire for a step up in his career and is disappointed at the lack of silverware.

“When I arrived here there were different ambitions and objectives for the club and we all faced a difficult financial situation, but that is not a problem for me,” he insisted. “I have a long contract with Lazio and the club will decide my future. I’m sure the outfit will be challenging for honours again soon enough.”

The arrival of new Coach Delio Rossi has also reassured the players of a new era for the Biancocelesti.

“I don’t know him personally, but seeing what he achieved at Lecce and Atalanta I consider him the right man to start again with talented youngsters. Rossi has precise ideas on football and wants to put them into practice.”

Lazio’s problems have seen Oddo slip out of the Azzurri set-up and he could put pressure on for a move to Milan in order to be ready for the 2006 World Cup.

“It’s easier to make your mark with a big club, especially as playing alongside world class teammates raises your game and aids your professional development. In any case, I think Italy Coach Marcello Lippi prefers other players who suit his tactics more than me.”









This is not the

albertini_forever
20-06-2005, 07:07
same news from : http://www.tribalfootball.com/june/italnews3200605.html

AC Milan target Oddo: I'm happy at Lazio
tribalfootball.com - June 20, 2005

Lazio fullback Massimo Oddo has played down talk of an imminent move to AC Milan.
The Italy international told Goalcity: "I feel that I can say, today, I am 100 per cent with Lazio. Percentages on my possible departure, I cannot give.

"I'm very calm, I am happy in Rome and at Lazio and I'm content to have become an important player of this club.


so how do you think guys ??? should we sign hatem trabelsi ??? no cicinho ...

zlatanov
20-06-2005, 08:22
I honestly find it difficult to believe that people are even quoting a mirky source like tribalfootball.com but what I find even more difficult to believe is that there are still people who actually believe when a player pledges alegence to a club, especially when common sense says that that same player would get the hell out of there on the sec if all depended on him. Why is it so difficult to realize that a player, who has a binding contract to a club can't just come out in front of the press and say that he wants to leave the club and that joining them was the biggest mistake of his career. FCS, of course he will keep a nice face in front of the fans and media.
This being said, I wouldn't mind someone between Trabelsi and Cicinho joining us for they both are very talanted but to say that Oddo is out of the picture just because of what he says to the media is just plain childish.

Warro Bantan
20-06-2005, 09:19
I honestly find it difficult to believe that people are even quoting a mirky source like tribalfootball.com but what I find even more difficult to believe is that there are still people who actually believe when a player pledges alegence to a club, especially when common sense says that that same player would get the hell out of there on the sec if all depended on him. Why is it so difficult to realize that a player, who has a binding contract to a club can't just come out in front of the press and say that he wants to leave the club and that joining them was the biggest mistake of his career. FCS, of course he will keep a nice face in front of the fans and media.
This being said, I wouldn't mind someone between Trabelsi and Cicinho joining us for they both are very talanted but to say that Oddo is out of the picture just because of what he says to the media is just plain childish.

:1old: Ahhh Zlat...thus is the way of the world, some of us are advanced in our way of thinking on matters to do with football, while others are not...

Take heart however compadre, that one day, your insight will positively influence some of the grasshoppers here...

albertini_forever
20-06-2005, 10:22
hueheuheuheuh ...
ok ... ok ... no triballfootball.com for source ...
but it's really made me confused ... because, i'm not really patiente about Milan transfer this year and it's because what hapenned in Istambull ...
i knowed that triball football doesn't have a reliable source, but in time like this (Silly Season) ... sometimes it's made me happy for the information they wrote, and sometime really2 silly ... :D:D:D:D ... and i want to share with tou guy's about this ...
ok ...

:D:D:D:D:D

Dr Milano
20-06-2005, 15:06
hueheuheuheuh ...
ok ... ok ... no triballfootball.com for source ...
but it's really made me confused ... because, i'm not really patiente about Milan transfer this year and it's because what hapenned in Istambull ...
i knowed that triball football doesn't have a reliable source, but in time like this (Silly Season) ... sometimes it's made me happy for the information they wrote, and sometime really2 silly ... :D:D:D:D ... and i want to share with tou guy's about this ...
ok ...

:D:D:D:D:DITS 50/50 PEOPLE HE COMES OR HE STAYS SIMPLE AS THAT

Southernsun
21-06-2005, 20:34
oddo...........is what u call.........un "zappatore" basically, a grass cutter. he is over rated. i really hope he stays with lazio. trust me.

zlatanov
21-06-2005, 22:24
well, how could we resist the temptation of trusting you after you gave us such compelling arguments for him being a "grass cutter"? I am not sure of one thing though - is it your gut feeling or your crystal ball to which we owe the above revelation?

Billy_Montreal
21-06-2005, 22:40
oddo...........is what u call.........un "zappatore" basically, a grass cutter. he is over rated. i really hope he stays with lazio. trust me.

Far from it. Not sure how you justify the label "over rated" as his price tag is not enormous; no one classified him as the best Italy has to offer in D. he is more than a suitable back-up for Cafu. He has proven to be a solid defender with offensive skills with an impressive long range shot. I would save 'zappatore' (though the true term I usually like to use is "mezzatacca") for the Zebina's, Montero's, Materazzi's and Iuliano's of Serie A.

Southernsun
21-06-2005, 23:45
Far from it. Not sure how you justify the label "over rated" as his price tag is not enormous; no one classified him as the best Italy has to offer in D. he is more than a suitable back-up for Cafu. He has proven to be a solid defender with offensive skills with an impressive long range shot. I would save 'zappatore' (though the true term I usually like to use is "mezzatacca") for the Zebina's, Montero's, Materazzi's and Iuliano's of Serie A.
oh boy, here we go. panucci is even better than oddo! oddo only has a long range foot. he can play in the premiership easily. please, watch his movements, his defending. i would rather play zebina. now........u tell me, oddo or sylvestre from man untd? gosh, both overated players to say the least. mancini wanted to kick oddo out when he was coaching lazio. he hardly played him. ciao fratello. :confused:

Hitman
22-06-2005, 01:51
Well it is hard to believe that Oddo is overrated and not any good, if he was a regular with the Italian National side. Remember if we capture Oddo, he would "only" be backup for Cafu..!!

Billy_Montreal
22-06-2005, 11:30
oh boy, here we go. panucci is even better than oddo! :
So what? How does Panucci being better than Oddo justify your point on Oddo??
Panucci has quite a history behind him:
He played alongside Baresi, Costacurta and Maldini in the 94 CL run...
He was a National Team regular ...
He played and was sought after from many major clubs..
He continues to be a solid defender despite his slip in the last few years ...


oddo only has a long range foot. he can play in the premiership easily. please, watch his movements, his defending. i would rather play zebina. :
Please don't compare "Horse Manure" (Zebina) to Ice Cream (Oddo). Zebina is a butcher that was a suitable replacement for Montero at juve..they needed someone to hack the opponents down. he is NOT nor will ever be in Milan's gameplan. That type of mentality is not what Milan stands for...Davids and Contra were all shown the door despite their talent because of their unsportsmanlike strategy.

now........u tell me, oddo or sylvestre from man untd? gosh, both overated players to say the least. mancini wanted to kick oddo out when he was coaching lazio. he hardly played him. ciao fratello. :confused:
Whats your point? THe argument is about Oddo not Sylvestre or Panucci or a Chinese Tea Vendor....and another thing. Mancini is barely the voice of wisdom. He is the quintessential example of an OVER-RATED PRODUCT. Won nothing..done nothing and still holds his head up high comparing himself to Ancelotti and Capello.
So let me understand this. Because Mancini ONCE stated he didn't like Oddo he is over-rated.
Sorry...I don't buy what your selling. Don't quit your day job Fratello.

Southernsun
22-06-2005, 11:45
i think u like lazio. and what u said: "Please don't compare "Horse Manure" (Zebina) to Ice Cream (Oddo)". are u reffering to black and white? i hope not. to understand soccer, is to analize, and discuss in good form. u have failed: example: "Sorry...I don't buy what your selling. Don't quit your day job Fratello". u seem to have an ultras mentality. very one sided, and aggressive. panucci is overated, doesn't matter if he played with the greats of milan. he's not solid, stam, thuram, nesta, are solid, and yes......the early montero WAS SOLID also. davids was let go cuz capello did not like him, and uncle fester (galliani) okayd it. not cuz of his temper. davids was an angel, in poor form. remember ziege? if oddo comes, he will have the same fate. he's not milan material. oddo is a photo copy of CARDONE, do u remember? ciao.

p.s. "I would save 'zappatore' (though the true term I usually like to use is "mezzatacca") for the Zebina's, Montero's, Materazzi's and Iuliano's of Serie A.
u mentioned these players, i elaborated for you.
a site YOU would have fun on. www.tifonet.com
enjoy.

Billy_Montreal
22-06-2005, 12:16
i think u like lazio. and what u said: "Please don't compare "Horse Manure" (Zebina) to Ice Cream (Oddo)". are u reffering to black and white? i hope not. .
You obviously never heard the expression..second of all, I don't think I will answer that. We are talking about players...are we not? We are talking about talent .. are we not? Why are you bringing race into this discussion?


to understand soccer, is to analize, and discuss in good form. u have failed: example: "Sorry...I don't buy what your selling. Don't quit your day job Fratello". u seem to have an ultras mentality. very one sided, and aggressive..
You just contradicted yourself. First you say I like Lazio..then you say I have an Ultras mentality??? Aggresive and one sided yet I am defending the skills of a player who is NOT (And probably will not be) on My team.
And your telling me I am failing...no offense but I'll take it with a grain of salt.
Secondly, how 'nice' that you picked out my last 'farewell' quote to basically sum up what my argument was. I stated my points (and clearly) for four paragraphs..that was a closing/conclusive sentence meant to HIGHLIGHT my thoughts: the discussion was above that....
cheap shot..if it can even be considered a shot...


panucci is overated, doesn't matter if he played with the greats of milan. he's not solid, stam, thuram, nesta, are solid, and yes..

No one compared him to Stam, Nesta and Thuram..you seem to bring other players and arguments into the discussion which a) I never mentioned and more importantly b) have absolutely no bearing on the discussion and has no point.


......the early montero WAS SOLID also. davids was let go cuz capello did not like him, and uncle fester (galliani) okayd it. not cuz of his temper. davids was an angel, in poor form. remember ziege? if oddo comes, he will have the same fate. he's not milan material. oddo is a photo copy of CARDONE, do u remember? ciao...
I remember well..please don't pull the "johnny came lately" fan thing on me. (I won't ask again). Davids was far from an angel and the actually story has to do with his temper in the dressing room and 'head to heads' with some senators....look it up..the story is out there somewhere.

You still have not shown me why Oddo is over-rated...
so far you basically said:
he only has a shot and threw in some other players who have absolutely no bearing on the discussion. OH yes, and you implied some things...nice.




p.s. "I would save 'zappatore' (though the true term I usually like to use is "mezzatacca") for the Zebina's, Montero's, Materazzi's and Iuliano's of Serie A.
u mentioned these players, i elaborated for you.
a site YOU would have fun on. www.tifonet.com
enjoy.

I get plenty of information on my own..or through my trips to Milan games...thanks anyway.

Henrik
22-06-2005, 12:18
For the convenience of interested members, I merged another Oddo transfer thread into this one :r11:

Dr Milano
22-06-2005, 12:42
For the convenience of interested members, I merged another Oddo transfer thread into this one :r11:
lol u like oddo u think he good player or nah

Henrik
22-06-2005, 12:56
I think Oddo is a good player and given that he was developed thru the Milan youth system, I would welcome him back with open arms :)

Having said that, I don't think Oddo is a great player that can be groomed to take over after Cafu when he retires. A good substitute.

Southernsun
22-06-2005, 13:19
AcMilan_Montreal, no, i never heard that expression, i should have done my research. besides oddo's loooooong foot, i think his defensive skills are very poor. its a matter of opinion. now, if u don't mind, i need to get back to my day job. un rossonero sara` per sempER un mio fratello. salutami montreal. no more of this :rocky: but more of this, cool? ciao. :v103:

Billy_Montreal
22-06-2005, 15:12
AcMilan_Montreal, no, i never heard that expression, i should have done my research. besides oddo's loooooong foot, i think his defensive skills are very poor. its a matter of opinion. now, if u don't mind, i need to get back to my day job. un rossonero sara` per sempER un mio fratello. salutami montreal. no more of this :rocky: but more of this, cool? ciao. :v103:


I thought this was your day job ;)

Forza Milan :3band:

albertini_forever
23-06-2005, 06:40
LOTITO: 'Up in the air with Oddo'
6/23/2005
MILAN - Lazio president Lotito spoke to Corriere dello Sport-Stadio about Massimo Oddo's possible move to Milan: 'An hypothesis with Milan exists but it's still all up in the air.'

the lattest news i read ...

Dr Milano
24-06-2005, 15:04
:swars: the lattest news i read ...
no more news on oddo is he coming know i dont think soo no more

hitmannq8
25-06-2005, 21:49
Give it a month and he'll be ours.

mrki
27-06-2005, 05:14
Goal.com says that juve overtook oddo from us!!!
Well that's not good at all... i think we really need him for next season. It can be just a rumor but i odnt like the way galliani is working out the transfers, too slow... Juve always gives some players they dont need so they play less money, we can do the same but we never do it!! Lets sell vikash and tommason or maybe kaladze, we dont need them anymore any get oddo and gila!!! And...f.... you Moggi!!!

zlatanov
27-06-2005, 06:00
This has been on goal.com only and nowhere else - they have had several other reports on Oddo that turned out to be BS. One other thing - one of the reasons why Oddo is still at Lazio and not at Milan is that they want, and need, money, while this report mentions Juve giving them some youth players or whatever.

mk18
27-06-2005, 06:14
yeah plus no quotes where shown in the article which makes it less hard to believe

Southernsun
27-06-2005, 21:28
oddo is with juve? good.

Hitman
28-06-2005, 06:45
All these things with Oddo is still at a rumour stage... nothing is confirmed... he could still end up in Milan...

Dave
28-06-2005, 06:59
All these things with Oddo is still at a rumour stage... nothing is confirmed... he could still end up in Milan...
I hope he does! :3band:

Dave
28-06-2005, 07:01
We need him!

Jafed
28-06-2005, 10:32
what about cassetti in my opinion he is at least as good as oddo

hitmannq8
28-06-2005, 23:35
this is a transfer that will definitely happen, don't worry about it.. we need to now worry about Gila, and maybe even a substitute keeper (possibly Guardalben, maybe we should try with Cudicini, although i wish we could get Curci)..

oddo has publicly stated that we would prefer a move to milan over any other club because he was always a milan fan and came through the milan youth system

jani
29-06-2005, 02:23
Curci will most likely be Roma's number 1 this year.

Pelizzoli will be loaned/sold.