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KhRiS

26-05-2005, 08:59

5/26/2005 1:42:00 PM

Spanish daily Marca is reporting this morning that AC Milan want to sign former Inter star Ronaldo.
“Berlusconi wants Ronaldo,” reads the Madrid based paper’s front page today.

According to the article the AC Milan supremo would be ready to offer Real around 60 million Euros in exchange for R9’s services.

If the sensational deal takes place it would be a further act of betrayal of the Brazilian striker towards the Nerazzurri fans, who still haven’t forgiven Ronaldo for going to Madrid after winning the 2002 World Cup.

I guess rumours like this are bound to float. :angel:

sehnsucht79

26-05-2005, 09:09

I dont trust the spanish media and come on, Ronaldo???

K77SH C

26-05-2005, 09:30

Well, hopefully its a sign milan will spend big (probably not though).

arpanmilan

26-05-2005, 09:52

i would prefer gila more then ronaldo

K77SH C

26-05-2005, 09:57

After all these invisible partnerships with Sheva, I wanna see a different kind of striker, even if it meant the lazy fat boy(Actually let me think about that) :rollani:

zlatanov

26-05-2005, 10:05

I wouldn't mind Ronaldo, especially if carlo can get him in top shape like he did with Crespo, but for 60 mil euros we could get 3-4 excellent team players and not just one exotic dancer who could become injury prone again as soon as he returns to the "wonderful" turf the San Siro is.

rae

26-05-2005, 10:06

That would be a big mistake.

Warro Bantan

26-05-2005, 10:52

Naaaaaaah............gimmie Gila, younger, proven in Italy, and no where near as injury prone...

Stefan

26-05-2005, 10:57

This would be a terrible signing for Milan - he's lazy, unfit and a shadow of the player he used to be. He can still be dangerous when he's at the top of his game, but he'd be a high risk signing and we'd be much better getting someone else!

Bram

26-05-2005, 11:55

We want Gilardino !!

mk18

26-05-2005, 12:12

im going with the majority... plus for 60 million u can get gila, oddo, janku, pizzaro and makinwa and still save some money!

ACMILAN1983

26-05-2005, 12:56

Could be an interesting signing if we get him, but not at that price

mrki

26-05-2005, 13:22

Please no!!! NOOOOO!!!!!!! 60 milion??!!!
We can get gila for 30-40!!! It would be the stupidest move ever. He is 30 and slow and not in good shape!!
For the love of god, NO!!! This can only mean gila is juve's now.... **** it silvio, do something now!!! we need top striker, now!

Gipson

26-05-2005, 13:45

Ronaldo and 60m...haha
rumours...rumours...rumours and thats all

Snapster

26-05-2005, 13:51

Diversion as usual, we say we're after someone in the press and snap someone else up instead. Hopefully a few young stars.

vickirin

26-05-2005, 14:52

No please no

Xudong

26-05-2005, 15:31

Change Ronaldo to Ronaldinho. I will be happy.

Maradona (10)

26-05-2005, 15:53

Oh, holy coincidence!!!

We lost a very important match and there are rumours about Milan signing a guy that always comes up big in that kind of games. Taking advantage of the moment.
We wont sign Ronaldo, dont worry.

This being said, Ronaldo is as good as they come, even when he is not at 100%. But for that money, no fuc*ing way!!

ZBoban

26-05-2005, 17:13

That's just a rumouor and it's not true...it just doesn't make sense...Milan would never spend that much on a player who's best days are behind him..if you spend 60Mil than why not get Gila who,s like much much younger. Ronaldo is awsome..probably the best natural scorer in the world..but not for 60 million..that's just stupid and ridiculous!

Maradona (10)

26-05-2005, 17:36

mrki

26-05-2005, 17:45

[QUOTE=ZBoban] Ronaldo is awsome..probably the best natural scorer in the world../QUOTE]

Ronaldo is no in top 10 right now, and we need one now! If we get him I will be heavily dissapointed, really, we dont need him. Its stupid to do such thing.
:v46: Gila is waaay better solution for milan, with sheva's pace and gilas scoring skills we can score planty. We dont need any ronaldos with broken legs and knees walking after 60 min. of calcio

ZBoban

26-05-2005, 17:47

I agree..spending that much money on any player woul be stupid. I'm just saying that if they were to spend it..it would be wiser to spend it on Gila because he's much younger and he would stay at the club longer...but I agree, it would still be stupid..60 million i just too much for anybody.......except Ronaldinho :neww:

mk18

26-05-2005, 20:24

even ronaldinho... milan arent that kind of club

mange

27-05-2005, 03:41

Well, you can ignore the figures that are mentioned in this report right away, they are not accurate. We all know that Milan won´t spend that much on Ronaldo. However, as I have said before, I have a feeling that this transfer actually could be more then just a silly rumour. Milan and Berlusconi has never hidden their admiration for his skills and it is no secret that the Milan management would be thrilled if they would be able to actually sign him.

Milan will sign a striker this summer, a spectacular striker! All season long it has been "official" that Alberto Gilardino is the one. As of late, I´m not so sure that we actually do have his signature, and if we don´t then we are in the middle of a race, given that plenty of major clubs are trying to get their hands on him aswell. Milan don´t like to be in races for signatures, since that isn´t good business. This could mean that Milan needs to turn their attention elsewhere, and who comes to mind when our management sits down and brainstorms, we can only speculate... Ronaldo is one possible name that might come up, and I would be absolutely thrilled!!!

Shevchenko/Ronaldo backed up by Kaká = hehehehehe...

mk18

27-05-2005, 09:37

still i think gila is more dangerous

arpanmilan

27-05-2005, 09:58

i think berlusconi is looking 4 ronaldo 2 increase the earnings 4 the club. real hav moved 2 second richest club 4m 3rd this season after buying of beckham. berlusconi is thinking on the same terms 2 get in a meganamed player 2 increase the earnings

Chris

27-05-2005, 10:31

please, can you stop the sms language?
would make it easier for people to understand...

regarding Ronaldo, i say no... he's past his best, and would (probably) cost too much...
there's better (and cheaper) players out there (read: Gilardino)

arpanmilan

27-05-2005, 10:52

i agree that gila is cheaper & better then ronaldo, but the point which i made in my post was abt earning money by marketing the player names which REAL hav done very well after buying BECKHAM and RONALDO is thousand times a bigger brand name then gila. So that brand value can earn money for milan.

Chris

27-05-2005, 12:10

yeah...

but Milan isn't real madrid, luckily ;)

we'll buy players to win trophies, not sell shirts :)

mrki

27-05-2005, 14:02

Gilardino IS better than ronaldo at this moment, we might as well sigh gullit, he was also great...once.
Berlusconi's wish to sign ronaldo can only mean he has mothing to do with real football tactics. Listen to this..If juve get gila, and they already have chiellini, kovac,gianniceda, and probably edu we will be doomed.
So, we need to do something really smart and that is GILA.
Plus, ronaldo cant play in italy, its clear!!

MATNAT

28-05-2005, 19:14

diavolo sono io

29-05-2005, 01:11

its been reported on sky sports that Galliani plans one major summer signing!!

http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=281055&CPID=21&CLID=&lid=8&title=Milan+plan+major+coup&channel=Ital

who do you reckon it will be?

I read Friday's LaGazzetta dello sport that Ronaldo could be the one. He's not happy at Real and would welcome a return to Milano. But this would involve a very complicated swopping game involving Chelsea. Of course this is still talk but u never know.

Snapster

29-05-2005, 04:21

I just hope it's not him, I don't want any overrated overprised has beens.

triniman

29-05-2005, 07:37

i think it will be 1 midfielder and of course gila...seeing we already have crespo basically

Mehdi

29-05-2005, 07:49

The last time Galliani promised a big surprise we got Redondo. I expect it's Beckham or Figo.

zlatanov

29-05-2005, 08:42

The last time Galliani promised a big surprise we got Redondo. I expect it's Beckham or Figo.
well, Don Redondo 3-4 years ago was better and more valueable than both of these put together. He wasn't voted MVP player of the CL for nothing - those two you can see on the cover of Sports Illustrated and L'Equipe but Redondo is the type of player who does all the work yet remains undervalued by so many self-proclaimed football "experts".

heidi azalea

29-05-2005, 08:56

The last time Galliani promised a big surprise we got Redondo. I expect it's Beckham or Figo.

Beckham ???? Oh no !!!!! hell no to Beckham. Inter :5inter: alias gli Perdenti suits him best.
Gilardino or Torres, and 1 midfielder....

Chris

29-05-2005, 09:34

Ballack and Gilardino :D

ARIO

29-05-2005, 09:55

Yeah...Michael ballack! Never thought on that one! He could be very lethal and a great contender for the lazy Clarence.....But i heard Manchester United are very much top of the queue.....

Chris

29-05-2005, 10:29

well, some big-signing to replace seedorf would be great.
have always liked Ballack...

with all due respect, seedorf has been sh!t all year...

Dave

29-05-2005, 10:49

What About Kompany??? I heard he will be Milan player!

Nestafan

29-05-2005, 11:01

It's obvious that Galliani was speaking about Gilardino.

There is no way that Ronaldo become a Milan player. Hopefully

Jim_UK

29-05-2005, 13:50

Would you say Gilardino is a star name ? The way that article is written, it makes you believe that we will sign someone with a huge attraction, an established name already. As great as Gilardino has been, i'd be surprised if he was classed as that category already.

I hope it isn't Ronaldo, unless the Milan lab can perform the ultimate miracle and make him as good as he was before :D

ACMILAN1983

29-05-2005, 14:29

i think it will be 1 midfielder and of course gila...seeing we already have crespo basically

I agree completely

Mehdi

29-05-2005, 15:40

Jankulovski and Oddo look certainties. I don't think signing Crespo will effect the planned moves for Gilardino/Vucinic. IMO the other signing will be a free transfer (Kuffour or Nonda) and ageing stars like Figo or Beckham.

Stefan

29-05-2005, 16:07

What About Kompany??? I heard he will be Milan player!

I'd love to see him sign, but I don't think he will come to Milan - maybe go to Real Madrid?

If we sign Jankulovski, Oddo, Gila, Hernan and Vogel, then I don't think we will need many more players. We might have struggled at the end of the season, but we still have a very good squad, and with these 5 we would be in a position to win the Scudetto and/or Champions League next season.

Dr Milano

29-05-2005, 16:42

I'd love to see him sign, but I don't think he will come to Milan - maybe go to Real Madrid?

If we sign Jankulovski, Oddo, Gila, Hernan and Vogel, then I don't think we will need many more players. We might have struggled at the end of the season, but we still have a very good squad, and with these 5 we would be in a position to win the Scudetto and/or Champions League next season.
yeh but it would be a dream to have all those but i cant see what u mean yeh i think milan will come bak strong next season this season was pretty poor

Maradona (10)

29-05-2005, 17:25

KhRiS

29-05-2005, 19:25

Just for Kicks:E'to and Lampard.
:w186:

Hasan Rossonero

29-05-2005, 21:25

Just for Kicks:E'to and Lampard.
:w186:

I just really hope it is not Ronaldo and I don't think it will be.

Nestafan

29-05-2005, 23:58

Would you say Gilardino is a star name ? The way that article is written, it makes you believe that we will sign someone with a huge attraction, an established name already. As great as Gilardino has been, i'd be surprised if he was classed as that category already.

A player who is able to score more than 20 goals 2 years in a row in Serie A is in IMO definitely a star
:3band:

kris

30-05-2005, 01:41

well, some big-signing to replace seedorf would be great.
have always liked Ballack...

with all due respect, seedorf has been sh!t all year...

don't comment when you haven't watched us play, he have been both great and horrible. He gave us the seasons two first games to begin with.

heidi azalea

30-05-2005, 01:58

I just really hope it is not Ronaldo and I don't think it will be.

How abt Cristiano Ronaldo ? :sagrin:

Chris

30-05-2005, 06:05

don't comment when you haven't watched us play, he have been both great and horrible. He gave us the seasons two first games to begin with.

what makes you think i haven't watched Milan play? * :rolleyes:

"first two games" - that's a long time ago, isn't it?

he's been horrible after new years..
and we all know how he varies from utter sh!t to excellent and back.. but it's been most the first one this season, unfortunately... :(

*i have watched all Milan's champions league games this season, some coppa italia games and all the serie a games that canal+ have bothered to show.. (somewhere between 20-30 i think)

meazza

30-05-2005, 08:41

We kept praising and going on about Ronaldinho all season. I dunno though, I wouldn't want him.

meazza

30-05-2005, 08:45

Also I agree, Seedorfs contribution has been waaaay below what you would expect from someone guaranteed a first team spot.

He played well right at the start of the season and was then anonymous, here's an idea we'll buy someone to replace him and play him for the first two games again.

andrei1

30-05-2005, 09:41

Galliani promised "a player everyone wants". This I think will be Gilardino. After all rumours say ManU, Chelsea, Real, Inter, Juve and us are trailing him.

My personal favorite would be Ronaldinho. Ronnie, Kaka, Sheva, Cafu and Serginho could tear any defence apart!And in a Crespo to put those chances away...

Gila, Vogel, Marek and Oddo. These will be our signings. Brocchi, Abbiati, and one of the strikers will leave.Maybe Kaladze...though I'm not sure.

Warro Bantan

30-05-2005, 10:56

We kept praising and going on about Ronaldinho all season. I dunno though, I wouldn't want him.

Well meazza, my good scottish comrade....I disagree with you here, he would indeed be a big splash, and would definately have a major impact at Milan...

We already have Marek Jankulowski (sue me if I spelt it wrong) :D and Vogel...

In fact, Raul is my favourite candidate to join us...his tireless running, tackles, dribbles, assists and scoring ability would perfectly partner him with Sheva.

However, this is unlikely, but I have compiled a shortlist of players, (some shamelessly taken from other posts here) and giving my views on the possibility of their arrival in Milan this summer, and making a "big splash" in the transfer market:

:v408: Ronaldhino.............definately a big splash....yet somehow, I dont think he is willing to leave Barca yet...but oh baby! Would I love to see him in red and black!! (Kit...not bra and panty set you morons!)
Ronaldo............................could be, but wouldnt be my first choice...would only come if he wanted away, and there are no indications that he does...
:v408:Raul.................................Peres would rather sell his grandmother into slavery in Africa..what? He already has? Oh..well, but he still wont leave Madrid...after all, why should he?
Tevez..............................Too short? What? No splash? A perfect dive?
Lampard........................... :haha:
Gerrard............................ .Just before the start of the second half of the infamus istanbul insanity..Sheva was seen whispering to Gerrard that he knows of the perfect house for him in Milan....had our chance to get this guy, but lost it when we lost the final....
Vieri................................oh oh...cannonball!! What a hefty splash, but no water on my laptop!!
Martins............................nope, cant see him leaving Inter..
Adriano............................always wanted to come to Milan, but because he is colour blind, ended up in a blue and black kit instead of red and black....sorry, Moratti would rather loose his left testicle than let the Brazilian go...what you say? He gave it to Ronaldo when he left Inter as a memento?
Christiano Ronaldo..............what? Skimmed off the surface...no splash at all? IMO, too young, not "heavy" enuf to make a real splash...
Robinho............................sorry, but depending on what u read, Madrid, no Barca...wait...Arsenal, have already snared the youngster...
Ballak..............................not splashy enough...good player, but dont think so....
Etoo...............................things that make you go hmmmmmm
Del Piero.........................after a season under Capello, he is dying to leave Juve....but to come to Milan.....no, cant see it...
Totti..............................naaa...too much money for security guards when we travel to Rome....
Cassano.........................his girlfriend, Signora Sensi..says he cant go...so he cant...
Beckham.........................Wifey Becks says she likes Madrid, kids settled..big money contract....London only a few minutes by private jet...why leave?
Figo...............................waaaay past his sell by date...floated on the water..refused to sink, or make any sort of decent splash...
Gilardino.........................purportedly already on his way to Milan..now that wouldnt be a "big splash" now would it?
Rooney...........................Papa Fergie would throw a fit, spank him, and then tie him with a leash if it ever came up....
Henry.............................for me, not good enuf (at the risk of starting another 100 post debate with my worthy adversaries)....and wont leave Arsenal..at least I sure hope he doesnt come to Milan....
Duff................................naa, barely a ripple, much less a splash...
Robben............................spectracular splash...but prising a player away from Mourhino and Abramovich is tougher than...well, is just plain tough...

My list is somewhat exhausted...seem to run out of "splash" worthy players....help anyone?

ZBoban

30-05-2005, 12:06

We kept praising and going on about Ronaldinho all season. I dunno though, I wouldn't want him.
oooh that's just crazy..he's the perfect player. Having him at Milan would be a dream..but there's no way Barca is letting him get away.

Inferno

30-05-2005, 16:03

My list is somewhat exhausted...seem to run out of "splash" worthy players....help anyone?
:55angel:
I'll help..

Full name: Jean Carlos Chera
Position: anywhere
Height: 1.37 meters
Weight: 37 kilograms
Country: Brazil

:fright:
I know, he have small measures but trust me it's normal... he's only nine! :nana: :delol: :delol:
http://www.jeancarlos10.com/?=g
:wow:
incredible.

there's your major coup
*respect*
:5ok:

hitmannq8

30-05-2005, 16:03

mm i havent read anywhere else that Galliani is planning to make a major buy.

Milan wouldn't allow it, we have always been low-spenders and always looking for out-of-contract players.

I have a terrible feeling that Gilardino will not join us and go for Juve instead. He is a striker we need though :(. I would like to see Ronaldo come as I am confident our lab will get him on top form in no time, he would be my first choice.. i'd like to see tevez also!.. but as Juve have 5 strikers now, that means Juve will get rid of some1 at least to get Gilardino. And ya'all should keep in mind that Recoba is looking to move!

We signed Jankulovski today for 4 years.

Haroon

30-05-2005, 16:58

Janku and Vogel are Milan players now. Gila is the most expected signing for us. Crespo would have to be a Milan player.

Janku, Vogel, Gila & Crespo if logic suggests. If We can get Figo then we're in prime time territory. :cool:

I know he is old and all but so was Cafu, so was Stam. At Milan we have tranquility and Figo coming would be da bomb. Figo can give us two good seasons as he won't start and even though he is past his week he would be giving us a dimension IMO. Let's see what happens.

K77SH C

30-05-2005, 18:11

im sure Galliani promised us a champion before, was it not Kaka who really did turn out to be on?? Or was it Stma, cant remember.

meazza

30-05-2005, 18:23

from your list Warro Ronaldinho is the only one that really fits the bill, seriously I don't think it's an impossibility. If we do though I can see us going for Vucinic rather than gilardino to save pennies. I'm not Little Richards biggest fan I admit, and I worry about players already so established that they would cost tons, ultimately could Ronaldinho bring to milan 50million pounds worth of business that we other wise wouldn't of had? I can't say. He's been saying he won't sign him all season, knowing Galliani that means that we could at least have a pop at signing him.

Maradona (10)

30-05-2005, 19:00

Figo? Hell no!!!

:p146:

KhRiS

31-05-2005, 08:29

Just For Kicks.

:str:

savicevic

31-05-2005, 08:37

good one, Khris.

i am almost sure there is nothing concrete in these rumours. Milan will buy Gilardino and they wanted to announce it ASAP, but coz of Parma's relegation decider, they've decided to wait a little. With Gila, we're more than covered up front.

i'm sooo eager for next year. Paris here we come.

Warro Bantan

31-05-2005, 09:21

from your list Warro Ronaldinho is the only one that really fits the bill, seriously I don't think it's an impossibility.... He's been saying he won't sign him all season, knowing Galliani that means that we could at least have a pop at signing him.

This for me meazza, is the only splash worthwhile calling a splash...however, intrestingly, another target (Who I may have left off my list...let me check...yup left him off...how could I)...Guiti, wants away from Madrid...

From:http://football.guardian.co.uk/breakingnews/feedstory/0,14546,-5042442,00.html

Unhappy Guti questions future at Real Madrid

MADRID, May 31 (Reuters) - Real Madrid midfielder Guti believes his days at the club may be numbered after another season spent on the periphery of the team.
"I think the club and I should think very hard about what is best for both parties. Perhaps it would be best for everyone if I left," the Spanish international told sports daily AS on Tuesday.
The 28-year-old made 18 starts for Real but since the arrival of coach Vanderlei Luxemburgo during the winter break and Denmark midfielder Thomas Gravesen in the January transfer window he has spent more time on the bench.
"I am not angry, just frustrated because I thought I would be able to play more this year," Guti added.
"I could have done a lot of good things for the side, but I haven't been able to.
"I want to develop as a player and I feel I am stuck on the second level here. I am able to play many more minutes than I am doing and to have a more important role in a side."
Guti, who has a contract with Real until 2008, is not alone in being unsettled at Real. Portuguese winger Luis Figo has also expressed his unhappiness recently after being relegated to the bench for the last two months of the season.
Real finished second in the table, four points behind fierce rivals Barcelona.

Many here will remember how a Guiti inspired Real Madrid whopped us 5-0 in a friendly purportedly celebrating our 100th year...and how eager Berlu was to get him at the time....

With Figo also in the "want away" category....this Coup could see both players to Milan, though honestly, as I mentioned before, I dont think Figo has two seasons left in him...one maybe, in the Premiereship, where all he would have to do to beat a defender is to look at him funny...

He hasnt been able to beat a player (in the recent Madrid matches I have seen) with his usual ease and grace as he was able to a season ago, and if you cant beat players in La Liga, then really, do u expect to come to Italy and beat any? This isnt the only aspect of Figo´s game, but merely one of the more important...and he isnt the same player without this ability...

Guiti for me, isnt a "big splash" as splashes go, but could prove a useful addition, replacing Seedorf on the left of midfield....the only problem with today´s version of Guiti is that he doesnt tackle nearly as well as the version of couple years aback...

Oh, though I havent read anywhere else that Milan are planning a coup, I am running with this thread because it is the least depressing one for me at the moment... :nasty:

Warro Bantan

31-05-2005, 09:45

:irritate: :w221: :d55: :moan:

From:http://www.goal.com/NewsDetail.aspx?idNews=64501&progr=6

Ronaldo Enjoying Milan Interest
5/31/2005 12:07:00 PM
After being freed from his Confederations Cup duties Ronaldo returned to comment on what the next season might hold for him.
“I am sure to remain at Real. But I thank Milan for being interested in my services. They are a very powerful club,” said the Brazilian super-star.

The Italian media reported yesterday that Milan were ready to spend 60 million Euros for Ronaldo’s services.

Expect more on this story as the days go by.

Though, in all honesty, as a football purist, I should be salivating over this possibility...however, :5milan: as a biased Milan fan, I say bring on Gila!!!!!!!!

Debs

31-05-2005, 09:52

5/26/2005 1:42:00 PM

Spanish daily Marca is reporting this morning that AC Milan want to sign former Inter star Ronaldo.

I guess rumours like this are bound to float. :angel:

Yeah, around MM we call it the silly season, and it looks like it is definitely upon us! :mex:

iregk

31-05-2005, 10:08

I read in world soccer magazine a couple of months back that apparently when ever he can Ronaldinho jets straight out of barca to milan as he enjoys the city adn the nightlife much better milan. So a move for him, while being totally unlike milan, wouldn't be too surprising.

Jankalouski is a big big plus. The midfield needs a little bit of a shake up. Seedorf blew hot and cold last season and needs some time on the side lines to sort himself out and I know im going to get a slight roasting for this but I also think Pirlo is in the too comfortable category. He knows he is a starter every game and at times doesn't he just show it. Sublime on the ball but lack of concentration at times gets him caught way out of position and he needs a bit of a kick...

MilanPerSempre

31-05-2005, 10:31

Hasan Rossonero

31-05-2005, 11:30

I also really hope that Gilardino will be our striker next season... for 2 reasons.

1/ He is very good... He scored over 20 goals last season and also this season. So, he really proves to be great!

2/ He is an Italian player... And i think that's also very important. If we buy more foreigners, the Milan team will almost have no Italian players anymore. I'm not a racist, not at all... but Milan is still an ITALIAN team. I would like to see around 5 Italian players in our first team next season.

I am not Italian but I 100% agree. I hope the management sign Gilardino. I have always wished for there to be at least 6 Italians in every team's starting line-up.

I love the Nazionale and I want there to be more players from Milan in there.

sf_esq

31-05-2005, 13:30

It would be incredibly stupid to buy him instead of Gilardino. The guy is a bad apple and is half the player (and size) that he used to be. I must admit that I could see us pursuing him on a free transfer (ala Rivaldo) when his contract is up. He would be just the type of past his prime, free transfer player that Galliani loves.

Gio-mania

31-05-2005, 13:35

some links say Van Nistelrooy..............

alt51

31-05-2005, 13:42

i don;t think we need him since ronaldo cannot be the forward as shevchenko , when he come, shevchenko need to move back and give chance for ronaldo to score. gilo will be much better than him.

aim

31-05-2005, 13:48

Haroon,

I don's share the enthusiasm of seeing Figo to be on our team:

--He doesn't want to sit on bench. Whom he should replace to secure himself a start-up place? He wants a 3-year big salary contract, IRRC. Can he then still run? He is not Rui type of ppl, we don't want to see dressing room problem, do we?

--The success rate of La Liga players in Serie A is very very low. We have not managed to turn that trend with Rivaldo, Jose Maria within Milan. Don't think a 32-year old player who is accustomed to the open play style will be able to adapt to the tightly guarded Italian game.

For me, the most important thing is that we should look at players who can improve our weakness of the current team rather than just their reputation or whether they are freebies.

In 2002 we boutght Nesta, the defense was upgraded to a new level; 2003 Kaka was brought in, our slow middle field accelarated. The 2004 Stam deal is less effective compared to the 2 seasons before, for our defense has not be improved that much but becomes less stable.

This year, I'd like to see a upgrade/strenghen of our middle fielder with a box-to-box middle players as Bayman has been propoganda, but not necessary the candidates that he recommended.

sf_esq

31-05-2005, 14:35

some links say Van Nistelrooy..............

I like Ruud, but would prefer Gila. I wouldn't complain if we signed Ruud though. With all the uncertainty around Glazer's takeover, I'd definitely try to poach a couple of Man U's players.

Warro Bantan

31-05-2005, 16:15

Yeah, around MM we call it the silly season, and it looks like it is definitely upon us! :mex:

Hey ya Debs!!! Long time no see no posts! Good to kno u r still alive and kicking!!!

Miss your posts girl! :tsr:

K77SH C

31-05-2005, 19:52

zlatanov

31-05-2005, 20:53

Theres a massive difference between Figo and Cafu. Cafu was still probably the best right back in the world when he came to milan and is more enthusiastic and hard working than any other player in his position. Figo however has been on the decline for a few years now and doesnt have the same positive attitude as Cafu.
I agree with you but let's not forget that a new environment, a new challange and above all the feeling that you are finally part of a team and not a bunch of spoiled, high-paid broads can do wonders to any footballer, even to someone like Figo who seems to have lost his drive at this very moment.

sf_esq

31-05-2005, 22:03

Dave

01-06-2005, 04:38

No figo. Yes, he is quality, but he is 50% of what he used to be and that number is decreasing each year. He is too old and slow. What's the point of tying up so much $ (his wages would be very high) for a stop gap? We need younger players, not old washed up has beens.
If really I`d like to see Figo in Milan, but in other way no! Because he is old and overrated and his best years passed! :rotfl:

Dave

01-06-2005, 04:41

ACMILAN1983

01-06-2005, 05:47

I can't say I would be too happy if it was Figo we're expecting

devoted_dm

01-06-2005, 06:52

I would *not* be pleased if we sign Figo. He was quality a while back, but imo he would just become another Rivaldo for us. I think we are signing Gilardino though. And *if* we sign Ronaldinho, I would piss myself from excitement. It isn't too unlikely, is it? I mean, Berlusconi would probably pay for it, and I think he would do it because he wants positive publicity before the upcoming election. What better way to do it than create an invincible Milan (as we would be with Gila and Ronaldinho in our squad)?

Galliani promised us a great champion. Gilardino, albeit an excellent player, is not a champion. Ronaldinho is.

Snapster

01-06-2005, 08:07

I'd take the Figo that left Barca, not the Figo that's going to be allegedly freed by Real. He's past it now, and we could do better.

MATNAT

01-06-2005, 08:32

i wouldn`t mind seeing figo come so long as we use him as a "super sub" and give him the role to play on both flanks as i think we miss players who can stretch the pitch (the only other player i thin who does that well is serginho).

however i think the major signing is likely to be gilardino.....

http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jun1e.html

:p017:

mrki

01-06-2005, 10:22

Why not sign figo for free, we can offer him one year contract and he can be a super-sub. Its problem that figo left real coz he didnt want to be a sub....

iregk

01-06-2005, 12:02

I wouldn't be to keen on Figo myself. For the past couple of years he has been on teh decline and is now a shadow of his former self. Too old, too slow and very little left to offer unless he goes back to portugal which i can see happening.

Remember the average age of this milan side is 32, we need to get that down. Sure we have bags of experience but this squad needs to be broken up a little to get rid of that Deportivo mentallity and get some youth back in. Gilla would be a great buy but he doesn't quite fit the champion mold.

The other one I have been thinking of is Ferdinand. I don't rate him in the best in Europe group but as United are threatening to sell him maybe thats one...

Christopher

01-06-2005, 12:13

I still think they are planning to do something that is no where on anyones radar screen, a major player, big name, and guy who will put us over the edge in our yearly battles with Juve and Inter and who ever else comes at us in the CL.

Of course the last time I "had a feeling" I said Milan would win the CL . . . so

Henrik

01-06-2005, 15:31

If we have learnt one think over the years it is to believe what Galliani does and not what he says. Remember the famous "we will get one of Ronaldo, Figo or Beckham" quote? :rolleyes:

Gilardino - would be a star signing IMO and the most likely to come thru
Figo - is on the market, but cannot possibly fit into our system and is, as someone pointed out, way past his due date
Ronaldo - I'll support him if he comes, but am not a big fan. Luckily not a likely signing

triniman

01-06-2005, 17:45

Could it be Torres??...just thought i would add another name into the fire :)

meazza

01-06-2005, 17:50

Possible triniman, but I can't see us going after 2 young strikers and the move for Gila seems more and more likely with every passing news item.

zlatanov

01-06-2005, 18:30

Actually the name or RvN has also been mentioned at www.tgcom.it/sport (former www.mediasetonline.com) and www.calciomercato.com

Maradona (10)

01-06-2005, 19:00

I dont like Torres!!!

Would Joaquin work here or not? Opinions...

MATNAT

01-06-2005, 20:23

Actually the name or RvN has also been mentioned at www.tgcom.it/sport (former www.mediasetonline.com) and www.calciomercato.com

if we get RVN that will be a phenomenal strike force...

imagine sheva patrolling the flanks knocking the ball into the box for RVN to finish off...

the guys record in the champs league is unbelievable!!

:pp20:

MATNAT

01-06-2005, 20:27

I dont like Torres!!!

Would Joaquin work here or not? Opinions...

joaquin is a great winger in fact possibliy one of my favourites in world football at the moment but alas that appears to be his downfall because i dont think hes renowned for his work rate and tracking back.

sod that...lets get him!!!

:v408:

KhRiS

02-06-2005, 07:19

Poor Old Ronaldo Or Lazy Ronaldough?
6/2/2005 11:39:00 AM
Alleging tiredness after a long, title-free season with Real Madrid the Fenômeno alluded to workers’ legal rights in order to get a month off. Presented with a fait accompli’, Carlos Alberto Parreira grudgingly let his number 9 off, and the CBF promptly cut him from the WC qualifying matches against Paraguay and Argentina much to Ronaldo’s chagrin. Goal.com Brazil correspondent Aaron Marcus dissects the still-warm scandal...
In a pithy editorial for respected broadsheet ‘O Estado De São Paulo’, Luis Zanin pointed out that a Brazilian triumph in the upcoming German Confederations Cup (CC) wouldn’t see the city’s main avenue – Avenida Paulista – closed off for millions to celebrate, as was seen after the 1994 and 2002 World Cup conquests. Going on to prove how little the CC tournament is valued, he challenged readers to answer the same questions I’ll now put to Goal.com readers.

Firstly, who can name the line-up of the Brazilian team that lifted the trophy in 1997 – and the Aussies that came second? Okay; too distant. How about the Mexican team that was proclaimed champion of the CC in 1999? If you failed to get beyond thumb and index finger – join the club; the vast majority of fans flounder where they could quite happily name a large swathe of the Seleção that yanked Roberto Baggio’s pony tail and lifted the 1994 World Cup. Now a really easy one: Who was the 17 year-old rising star sitting on the bench?

Eleven years later, the same player is about to start a month of leisure and pleasure before returning to Madrid – or Milan. Who can begrudge a player his rightful 30 days of vacation after a busy year seeing the Galacticos reach supernova, watching Diego Forlan, Samuel Eto’o and Ricardo Oliveira leave him in relative obscurity on the Liga top scorers’ table, being whipped up in Hurricane Cicarelli and suffering sniggering asides about a midriff that ebbed and flowed between waistline and coastline?

Quite a few it would seem. Ronaldo has bowed out of the CC after it became clear that Parreira and the CBF weren’t going to give him the surprise gift of not calling him up for the German tournament. The Brazilian coach went from irritated to immovable to reluctant to resigned, finally cutting his first choice striker from any obligations to defend the canary yellow shirt instead of living it up in designer bars and on private yachts and beaches. And here’s the rub. To many his decision is just the whim of a little rich boy who thinks he’s done his share of charity work.

After all – what does Ronaldo get out of the deal? He misses out on his R&R in a competition that many see as a joke, risks injury and hence his megabucks – especially given a mooted $65 million move to Milan. On the personal side he’s been put through the wringer by Daniela Cicarelli and is single; a state that never lasts long with Ronaldo. After Susanna Werner (now married to Chievo keeper Julio Cesar) he ricocheted into the arms of Milene Domingues, then rebounded into a Cicarelliland that looks more likely to be neverneveragainland.

And now the time is approaching for the next ‘Ronaldinha’, and there’s no time like holiday time to get away from Wanderley Luxemburgo’s unpopular ‘concentrations’ and double training sessions and into the embrace of Miss Next. After all, the only totty found on a football pitch is spelt and built differently. Observers in Rio pointed out that Daniela is in the Carioca capital and, although sources close to R9 flatly deny it, reconciliation is an outside possibility despite his lack of wristy Cicarelli-inspired goal celebrations when he scored against Zaragoza.

From the horse’s mouth

Parreira had rather amateurishly set the scene for a showdown by commenting that “It’s lovely just to play World Cups”. Ronaldo replied to Journalists buzzing around Rio’s international airport in a tone that could either be kindly labelled mildly ironic or patronisingly sarcastic. “My record shows that I’ve attended all types of competition...I’m not some young newcomer who just wants to play World Cups”. After letting fly with a barbed tongue, he went on to contradict himself by adding that “criticism doesn’t affect me”. A far cry from the bashful youngster who was mercilessly parodied by Spanish Canal+ puppet show ‘Noticias Del Guiñol’ as a terminally shy toothy cue ball who only said “I dunno”, irrespective of the question asked.

Ronaldo played hardball by also inferring that the CBF were avoiding his calls; “I’ve been trying to get in touch with them, but it hasn’t worked out”. This was a stiff finger in the face of controversial CBF chief Ricardo Teixeira, who hit back by ordering his removal from the crucial matches against Paraguay and arch-rivals Argentina for the Conmebol WC qualifiers. Shocked and annoyed at the decision, Ronaldo absolved Parreira of any guilt, thereby laying the blame firmly at Teixeira’s office door. “He [Parreira] made it clear to me that he wasn’t retaliating...We spoke by phone, and he popped into my house to chat”.

This could be a dangerous gambit by the CBF head honcho, Ronaldo now missing his first games since 2003 – a record unblemished even by end-of-game substitutions and blessed with eight goals so far. SPFC’s Grafite will take his place in the South American games, while Sevilla’s ‘La Bestia’, Julio Batista, will stand in for the Fenômeno in Germany. This means that the already tense match in Argentina will be heated to boiling point by Ronaldo’s absence and Grafite’s ongoing lawsuit against Quilmes’ Leandro Desabato for racist abuse. A defeat by the Albiceleste could be a fatal blow to Teixeira’s administration.

Ronaldo is trying his best not to slot his golden foot between his pearly whites and aggravate the situation, displaying a cool upper hand; “It was the CBF who cut me from the qualifiers...but I don’t see this as a punishment...I’m going to enjoy my holidays, get into shape in the pre-season and fight to be called up again.” As to pre-seasons there are murmurs on the grapevine that Florentino Perez is preparing to milk more Asian cash with a lucrative tour of the Far East. As in other succulent contracts signed by the big clubs to play ‘demo’ matches there is a hefty penalty if the stars are absent for whatever reason. This, obviously, has collateral effects.

These include the ‘you’ve-set-a-precedent!’ aftershocks that reflect on the call-up status of other Brazilian stars. Adriano has now been given the green light to abandon the seleção training base in Teresópolis for Inter de Milan’s Coppa final against Roma, while Ricardo Oliveira has been granted the same leave to defend Betis against Osasuna in the ‘Copa del Rey’. Speaking of precedents, Ronaldo should have thought back to the UN-sponsored friendly in Haiti where Cafú, Dida, Lucio and Zé Roberto were unceremoniously dumped from their call-ups given what the CBF saw as their lack of genuine zeal in opposing Milan’s decision to not release the players for an ‘mere friendly’.

Parting shots

Parreira announced Ronaldo’s excusal from international duties, managing to keep a laudable straight face as he said “He [Ronaldo] was tired and from the start we had decided to let him rest”. Carlos Alberto went on to ‘absolve’ Ricardo Teixeira of any blame; “I talked with Ronaldo and informed our president...the CBF doesn’t interfere with technical decisions”. Only getting close to snapping when asked if it would be his fault in the event of a defeat by Argentina, Parreira hit out lightly; “Before I was criticised for calling him up because he was supposed to be too fat...now you criticise me because I let him go on holiday. In this life you need to take a stand”.

So, Ronaldo gets his break as the story is rewritten to smooth over cracks and splits. He joins fellow living legends Roberto Carlos and Cafú on easy street as Corinthians/Benfica defender Anderson and Valencia new signing Edu get the call-up. Here’s the real point: like it or not, the CC is a great stage for new talents to emerge or rising stars to raise their cache and wait for the contract improvements or million-dollar transfer proposals to roll in. Those already established at the top of the food chain can turn noses up or backs and enjoy the absurd amount of wealth they’ve generated at such precocious ages. It doesn’t matter if Carlos Alberto Parreira is huffing and puffing about not being able to rehearse his 2006 squad in the land of the next World Cup. Certain players are now Players: on and off the field.

Coaches have to learn to live with their leprechaun status: they’re little people, relegated to a guest appearance in a blockbuster starring famous faces and world-renowned clubs (and coming to a pay-per-view screen near you soon). Those who don’t learn that lesson may well have their moments of club glory, but at national level it’s a different kettle of fish. Louis Van Gaal soared at Ajax and Barcelona and sunk without a trace in the ‘Oranje’; a similarly sour national experience shared by current fads Frank Rijkaard and Wanderley Luxemburgo, the only to escape temporarily being Van Gaal’s ex-number 2 at Barça and current Chelsea führer Jose Mourinho (although some allege impracticality; his head currently exceeding the territorial extent of Portugal).

We can feel sympathy for players whose mothers are kidnapped, but surely very little sympathy is due towards claims of tiredness from a growing legion of players whining and even threatening poor performances in future if their demands aren’t met. How do three games a week – absolute maximum – compare to how Lance Armstrong feels after slogging it up the Pyrenees for hours or days on end? At least in football you can have a break – and anyone who has watched Ronaldo recently knows he takes more than the occasional break. Can it be measured against NBA playoffs where seven finals are played in a fortnight? Or more appropriately is his tiredness more than any other football player who’s put in similar amounts of training and playing? Isn’t this the same player who freaked out after Luxemburgo substituted him at the end of Madrid games?

So many questions, but the key issue is: Would Ronaldo be asking for time off if this were a World Cup year? In the wise words of Brazilian journalist Luis Zanin: “As for us, the supporters, we’ve already learned to only take the seleção seriously in a World Cup year. Then we get drunk on the patriotic climate and start resurrecting our beliefs in old footballing values – in national anthems, in a love for both the jersey and the country it represents. The rest of the time the seleção appears to be just another prosperous company, sometimes reflecting inner squabbles between investors with vested interests. Nobody, except those directly involved [in the deals] falls in love with a business portfolio”. So, Ronaldo – have a great holiday, find a new love, play some golf, buy a jet, rent a castle, but, please, please, please, please, enough about how tired and patriotic you are.

[B]Source:Goal.Com

Henrik

02-06-2005, 08:11

Just For Kicks.

:str:
Is that the Micheline Man? ;)

Let's not forget that as a major football leagues in Europe have ended for the season, newspapers tend to speculate more in order to fill their pages. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for Ronaldo to arrive...

Warro Bantan

02-06-2005, 09:51

Neither will I Henrik, neither will I....I only hold my breath when I inhale..... :r11: ....heh heh heh...:r11:...cough cough cough....:D

zlatanov

02-06-2005, 10:21

To the Ronaldinho lovers - Sandro Rossel, Barca's vice-president, has left the club after a row with the Laporta. It has been often suggested that this may result in Ronaldinho rethinking his plans to remain at Barca for the rest of his career.
Very curious what his reaction will be.

KhRiS

02-06-2005, 10:50

Very curious what his reaction will be.

I don't think he will leave the Club immediately, it depends how next season pans out for them. and accordingly ...............

Warro Bantan

02-06-2005, 12:22

It doesnt seem to make any sense to me that a director leaves a club(albeit the one instrumental in bringing the player in) and that would make a payer want to leave the aforementioned club?

I can understand more a coach´s departure resulting in "want away" players, but a director? Please...this seems to be rumormongering from the underside of the barrel, and not the bottom of the barrel from where many such summer rumors are scraped.

Anyhoo, if, for whatever reason Ronnie of the ponytail wishes to leave Barca, then, by all means Galliani, bring him home to Milan...for once he has played for a club as grand as ours, he will never want to leave for another...

Henrik

02-06-2005, 13:29

...I only hold my breath when I inhale..... :r11: ..
...funny, Ronaldo can only hold his breath while eating tripple cheese pizza ;)

mk18

02-06-2005, 13:37

hahahhahahaahahhahahhahahahahahhahahahahhaha

Henrik

02-06-2005, 13:41

Is this pretty much the same thread as the "Berlusconi wants Ronaldo" thread? Any objections if I merge them?

meazza

02-06-2005, 14:04

Possible triniman, but I can't see us going after 2 young strikers and the move for Gila seems more and more likely with every passing news item.

Man Utd. are idiots if they sell him, so he had one bad season, so has sheva, so did Crespo, the fact is they guy is a born finisher if they decide to let him go it will be whoever buys him gaining.

mk18

02-06-2005, 14:17

enter peachtot :D:D:D

Maradona (10)

02-06-2005, 19:31

K77SH C

02-06-2005, 19:48

Does any one even think ronaldhinio could fit into our system. Our left side would be totally exposed. The only way I could see it work is if he played with Kaka and Sheva upfront.

Maradona (10)

02-06-2005, 19:53

Does any one even think ronaldhinio could fit into our system. Our left side would be totally exposed. The only way I could see it work is if he played with Kaka and Sheva upfront.

That would work for me, not for Silvio.

But there are many many games that you can afford to use a combo like Dinho-Kaka-Sheva-Gila :devf:

daj0

02-06-2005, 22:23

Ronaldinho would fit into any team, every team should be happy to have him!

I would certainly hope Milan would get him, however i dont think that is the major COUP galliani is talking about.

I dont know who else, gila is probably in pole position, however he is not A MAJOR STAR PLAYER yet.

So lets see, however i still think Ronaldinho would fit into every team...

FORZA MILAN!

acdc81

03-06-2005, 04:17

Ronaldinho once talked about how important was Rossel to him and that he would re-consider signing an extension with Barca if they were to fire Rossel. This was this season, when Laporta and him (SR) clashed.
Ronaldinho said Rossel is his "friend".

there is not point to it. the new club he would go to has no rossel either.

ronaldinho may leave barca one day but i don't think it will be because of rossel

just for 4 our line up with dinho:

ideally we would have to play with 1 striker

sheva
kaka - dinho
jankulovski - pirlo - gattuso
maldini - nesta - stam - cafu
dida

maldini would in this system play a left defender where he has very few going forward. so it is somehow a asymetric lineup.

but berlusconi does not like the 1 striker game so we would have to play this formation

against strong enemies who don't use good wingers
sheva - gilardino
kaka - ronaldinho
ambrosini - pirlo - gattuso
maldini - nesta - stam
dida

against strong enemies with wings

sheva - gilardino
kaka - ronaldinho
pirlo - gattuso
maldini - nesta - stam - simic
dida

against weak enemies who park the bus in front of the goal (most serie a games)

sheva - gilardino
kaka - ronaldinho
jankulovski - pirlo - gattuso
maldini - nesta - stam
dida

or with 4 man defense

sheva - gilardino
kaka - ronaldinho
pirlo - gattuso
jankulovski - maldini - nesta - cafu
dida

mrki

03-06-2005, 05:39

We reaaally dont need him...lets hope Galliani realises that.
Gila will be perfect, just declare it over so we can all relax, after gila we can have pippo and crespo as backups.
The fat one can stay in Madrid and walk down the pitch slowly....

savicevic

03-06-2005, 06:29

while i agree that we don't need ronaldo and that it would be better to get a younger player (gilardino), it seems it is not only rumours after all.

carlo pellegatti the no.1 milan journalist, in the late italia uno sport news, said that milan have agreed PERSONAL terms with both gilardino and ronaldo. To get the players, they need to agree with the CLUBS, which is more difficult, of course. but both players seem to want to join our club. so i wouldn't be surprised if chelsea went for gilardino and we got ronaldo. and then there's crespo. confusing, ain't it?

savicevic

03-06-2005, 06:50

Is this pretty much the same thread as the "Berlusconi wants Ronaldo" thread? Any objections if I merge them?

yes, pls, do so.

Henrik

03-06-2005, 07:54

yes, pls, do so.
your wish is my command ;)
Done :)

K77SH C

03-06-2005, 09:37

ACDC81, I love yuor first line up, but the others are way too unbalanced. You cant have a front four of Kaka , Rony, Sheva and Gilardino. Either we field Ronaldhinio with Sheva and Kaka or Gilardino with them, but not both.

Warro Bantan

03-06-2005, 10:26

Let us agree that both Ronaldo and Gilardino wont be coming to Milan simultaneously...I sincerely doubt this will happen, though if Crespo goes back to Chelsea, and JDT to Deportivo, then we are left with Sheva and Pippo.....so space opens up for two forwards...things that make you go...hmmmm

But will Berlu out bid Chelsea for Gila, and will Real let Ronaldo go...? Berlu would certainly have to raise taxes in Italy or something (sike...:D bad joke) to pay for both players to come to Milan.:D

Based on Milan´s recent history in the transfer market, I dont see the US$100M being spent for both players.

So lets just settle for Gila coming, and Crespo staying...though not a coup, its good enough for me...

As for Ronladinho.....he is THE player I want most to come to Milan, regardless of where we would have to play Kaka....that to me would be the only aquisition that I would render a "coup"...and I would certainly let Carlo worry about where to play whom...

ACMILAN1983

03-06-2005, 13:56

sheva - gilardino
kaka - ronaldinho
pirlo - gattuso
jankulovski - maldini - nesta - cafu
dida

If we were to get Ronaldinho, then this is definately the system I would start basing the team around.

This is because it would be the most balanced line up for us to use imo.

Roger Nolli

03-06-2005, 14:33

I'm thanks of God Brazilian, have Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Kaká, Robinho, Émerson, Gilberto Silva, Dida, Cafu, Roberto Carlos, Juninho Pernambucano and more. Oh, how I'm happy!

Maradona (10)

03-06-2005, 17:32

And they still need the refs help to win. :)

zlatanov

03-06-2005, 17:55

Let's not turn this into a battle for South America, OK?

Maradona (10)

03-06-2005, 18:27

A & B, C stay aside.

There will be no major coup, at least under standard fans standard. I like Gilardino very much, but I wouldnt label that move a major coup. There are no more than 5 players that grant a "major coup".

zlatanov

03-06-2005, 19:04

Maradona (10)

03-06-2005, 20:47

D, E & F can do so many nice things starting with the letter F.
If you wanna argue over who is better Brazil or Argentina, you can take this in the "General Football" part of the forum. Here we discuss Milan and end of story. Capito?

Im not arguing who is better, and Im free to post whatever thing I want as long as I dont insult others. I know what im doing, so I dont need your advice. Thanks.
Capito?

Henrik

03-06-2005, 21:25

It's getting hot in here (*unbuttoning my shirt) At ease soldiers ;)

MATNAT

03-06-2005, 21:55

If we were to get Ronaldinho, then this is definately the system I would start basing the team around.

This is because it would be the most balanced line up for us to use imo.

i argued (surprise...suprise!!) this formation in another thread.... ;)

its basically brazil 1994. with the defensive midfielders being dunga and mauro silva (pirlo and gattuso in your line up) and leonardo/zinho and rai/mazinho being your attacking midfileders (kaka and ronaldinho in your line up).

i think it would work and would provide the team with more stability and balance between defence and attack.

i just bloody well hope carlo sorts this out for the coming season.
we haev to defend better as a team period... if it means we sacrifice a little in attack then so be it...
as "big" phil scolari once said to a portuguese journalist when asked how he`d change portugals style of play "fancy flicks and back heels dont win you tropheys not conceding any goals does....." (or words to that effect when speaking in admiration of italian teams when he took over portugal)

:delol:

Maradona (10)

03-06-2005, 22:33

I think you first get Ronaldinho and then worry about the system. Its not like we cant play him alongside Kaka. Obviously, we are talking as if we were to have an outside chance of getting him, something its not going to happen.

ACMILAN1983

04-06-2005, 06:59

i argued (surprise...suprise!!) this formation in another thread.... ;)

its basically brazil 1994. with the defensive midfielders being dunga and mauro silva (pirlo and gattuso in your line up) and leonardo/zinho and rai/mazinho being your attacking midfileders (kaka and ronaldinho in your line up).

i think it would work and would provide the team with more stability and balance between defence and attack.

i just bloody well hope carlo sorts this out for the coming season.
we haev to defend better as a team period... if it means we sacrifice a little in attack then so be it...
as "big" phil scolari once said to a portuguese journalist when asked how he`d change portugals style of play "fancy flicks and back heels dont win you tropheys not conceding any goals does....." (or words to that effect when speaking in admiration of italian teams when he took over portugal)

:delol:

Actually thats true, I remembered you noted the formation elsewhere and I was surprised to see, as just before I had read that post I was talking about the formation to someone on msn.

Personally, when thinking about the system I was thinking more about the classic Milan of the early 90's, though Brazil 94 is very similar. Its a very balanced system that is superb for pressure play.

I like the system, but I don't see the point of changing the whole system unless the new players brought in could change the system for greater strength (which is why I've only mentioned it if Ronaldinho is to come or someone of similar stature).

Also, I want to note that if we change the system to that, then both Kaka and the other attacking midfielder MUST both defend when the opposition attack, otherwise it can be broken too easily.

Lancelot

04-06-2005, 12:14

I dont know the reason, but i have a strong belief that we will take both Gila and Ronaldinho this year...

This belief is fueled with statements like these:

“I will go to dinner with patron Silvio Berlusconi on Monday evening and try to convince him that we need to spend money to create a winning team,” revealed Rossoneri Vice-President Adriano Galliani.

Don Silvio is crazy enough to do this and of course i dont agree that Ronaldinho doesnt fit in our system !! He can feet anywhere :)

Maradona (10)

04-06-2005, 12:47

I dont know the reason, but i have a strong belief that we will take both Gila and Ronaldinho this year...

I cant see any club spending over 100M Euros in one single offseason. Thats how much it would take to get both Gila and Dinho (And more).

Henrik

04-06-2005, 12:49

I cant see any club spending over 100M Euros in one single offseason. Thats how much it would take to get both Gila and Dinho (And more).
I agree with this, highly unlikely imo.

Dave

04-06-2005, 15:35

i don;t think we need him since ronaldo cannot be the forward as shevchenko , when he come, shevchenko need to move back and give chance for ronaldo to score. gilo will be much better than him.
Of course I agree with you! Gilla is better than Ronaldo! And I be;ieve that Gilla will join us this summer! :5guitar:

Dave

04-06-2005, 15:36

Warro Bantan

06-06-2005, 10:08

If Abramovitch can spend US$100M in one year, why cant Berlu? We have maybe spent so far, under US$10M, lets put it conservatively at US$6M for Marek, and Vogel, if I remember correctly, came on a free....

That leaves US$90M....not a small amount, but something Berlu can easily afford, especially if we get double figures for JDT, and Abiatti....

Kui

06-06-2005, 10:17

Well dollar for dollar, I still think Berlusconi's player invesments no matter how much less spent is worth more in wieght than all the Millions Abra has spent. Just shows who's the better businessman, that's all!

Henrik

06-06-2005, 10:17

KhRiS

06-06-2005, 10:21

Berlu has realised that he does'nt need to spend big money, I guess he will only spend big money if the price is right, ex Gila. I think our transfer approach is not too bad, we have made a good squad over a period of years, has everyone forgotten the money we spent acquiring Inzaghi and Rui in the same season, and then the next season we got nesta and rivaldo, I know Rivaldo came for free but he got a huge chunk as signing fee. All in All we have been spendin gon the transfer market but the media is'nt making a big show about it.

Warro Bantan

06-06-2005, 10:34

Warro, just because he can afford it, doesn't mean he will do it. Abramovic invested heavily the first two seasons in order to get the team on track, but will likely slow down as time goes on.

Berlusconi as allready stated how much he will invest this year (25m), it may be more, but is very unlikely to reach the number you are proposing.

Really? What a disappointment...anyhoo...Cole (aka Ashley the tap up dancer) is available...and says he wont play for another English club...(should be the start of a new thread, but I am too lazy to do it....hint hint)

Well, the 25m sum is way below what we would expect for a coup/splash...unless the player insisted that he wanted Milan...and honestly, few players could come into Milan and command a starting place, especially as the Milan suits have said that the players that started in Istanbul will remain the core of the team for next season....

But to refer to your first point....the bottom line is, he CAN afford it...so lets see what happens shall we?

The other thing to remember is that next season is a World Cup year, and as such, players will want to play for a club where there are assured a starting place, in order to keep their positions in their countries world cup rosters, so indeed, maybe this coup/splash argument, is just that, an argument, which wont be carried further than it currently is....which is....nowhere....:rollani:

Warro Bantan

06-06-2005, 10:56

Then again....lets add some fuel to the fire, as I still need to get over the Insanity in Istanbul...

Raul says he is willing to leave the club if it is in the best intrests of Madrid...that is coup/splash material if there ever was one....

I would LOVE to see him in red and black....and until the transfer window closes, and Berlu and Galliani says that our "transfer season" is over, I can continue to hope and dream...

Warro Bantan

06-06-2005, 11:01

Milan In For Ljungberg
6/6/2005 8:38:00 AM
The Rossoneri are ready to sign the Swedish winger.
Following the incoming transfers of Johann Vogel and Marek Jankulovksi, Milan are close to sign another high profile midfielder: Frederik Ljungberg.

The Arsenal player is seen as the ideal right winger for the Rossoneri thanks to his speed and technical qualities. The transfer could be eased by the fact that recently Ljunberg declared that he will not renew his contract with the London-based club.

In the meantime, Milan are also set to complete the transfer of Alberto Gilardino from Parma, but the announcement will only be made after the 20th of June, following the relegation playoff between the Gialloblu and Bologna.

Keeping the fire blazing...should be startup material for a new thread, but hey, why not keep it here?

Mods, feel free to start a new thread with this, editing my post as you see fit.

Wouldnt mind seeing Freddie at Milan...though he may not adapt to the Serie A....but...what life has taught me is..."never say never".

Herou

06-06-2005, 11:10

Keeping the fire blazing...should be startup material for a new thread, but hey, why not keep it here?

Mods, feel free to start a new thread with this, editing my post as you see fit.

Wouldnt mind seeing Freddie at Milan...though he may not adapt to the Serie A....but...what life has taught me is..."never say never".

There already is a thread about this mate. :)

Maradona (10)

06-06-2005, 22:42

With all due respect, just say No to Raul. Please.

prifess

07-06-2005, 01:28

they want a brazilian striker, so they can please Kaka, and he will play great with em :p

so buy robinhio!
ronaldo is not good enough for milan

kris

07-06-2005, 05:07

Berlusconi as allready stated how much he will invest this year (25m), it may be more, but is very unlikely to reach the number you are proposing.

your way off Henrik, the 25M where just the amount he put in the club to fill up the budget deficit. There is no spoken sum of money that we will invest, it is all about what Berlusconi and Galliani agree on. In the end, I don't think we need that much at any rate, we have a great team.

Henrik

07-06-2005, 07:24

your way off Henrik, the 25M where just the amount he put in the club to fill up the budget deficit. There is no spoken sum of money that we will invest, it is all about what Berlusconi and Galliani agree on. In the end, I don't think we need that much at any rate, we have a great team.
Well that is good news! I like being wrong on things like this :)

I still doubt that the net contribution will reach 100m, as Warro had hoped for.

Warro Bantan

07-06-2005, 09:04

Well that is good news! I like being wrong on things like this :)

I still doubt that the net contribution will reach 100m, as Warro had hoped for.

Well, I am one who will keep hope alive!!

But as to Maradona10´s comment about Raul...not that I want to start a Raul debate here or anything, but IME (in my estimation), Raul is one of the better forwards in the game today, and would certainly benefit from a change of atmosphere...

He is class, and even a perfunctionary look at his record over the past 5 years shows a forward who not only scores, but creates scoring opportunities for other players as well...having him partner Sheva, would be a wonderful thing...

I will not hesitate to agree that he has had a rather poor season or two, but this will and can happen to anyone, these players are all human, and a dip in form can be excused, especially with all the matches and the induced fatigue this creates.

Few other players, including our Sheva, can boast the record that Raul can, so please, I understand your not liking the Spaniard Maradona10, really, as there are several players (Ruud Van Nistelrooy for example) that I dislike, and wouldnt want to see in Milan, for no other reason than I just dont like them...however, you would never see me posting about "Just say no to Ruud" if he were proposed as an aquisition. Despite me not liking him, he is an excellent forward (Ruud that is), who would have, I am sure, a very positive impact at Milan, once he finds his feet in the Italian game.

I am not one to tell people what not to post, but if you are going to make a statement like that Maradona10, then back it up...or at least admit that its just a personal dislike that you have for the player. :)

mk18

07-06-2005, 11:16

please no to raul

:guw:

:D:D:D:D

Warro Bantan

07-06-2005, 11:27

Well, its me again, Warro Bantan aka Fireman, here to add more fuel to the inferno that is this summer´s transfer-rumor-market incinerator... :dielaugh:

From acmilan.com:

Carlo Ancelotti, Monday´s press confrence:

If it is possible, we will try to have at our disposal at least five strikers. This is the package where we suffered most due to injuries.’
Ok....lets break out the calculator...5 strikers...

1. Sheva
2. Pippo
3. Crespo?
4. JDT?
5. Gilardino?

Obviously, the ones with ? signs are the only doubts, but lets say that JDT leaves, that leaves one more spot open...do we then...
a) Recall Boriello?
b) Splash out some cash for Ronaldo?
c) Recall Kutusov?
d) Splash out some cash for Raul?
e) Promote a primavera player?
f) Splash out some cash, recall some favours, and sign Fernando Torres?

Or, do we keep JDT, and just bring in Gila?

I have an opinion: Sell JDT, bring in Crespo, Gila, and Raul, and we will be lifting the UCL trophy in Paris, and seamstresses will be sowing on the scudetto on our jerseys come season ending 2006....the magic "double"... :w221:

Ok, ok just read some more from acmilan.com:

And asked about the much-expected big deal, Galliani answered by unveiling an important meeting: ’On Monday evening what my friend Fedele Confalonieri and I jokingly name as the ’plot of lambs’ will take place. It will be a dinner with president Silvio Berlusconi, a sort of assault to convince him to invest new sums of money. Ronaldo and Ronaldinho? Definitely not. The first is an impracticable path, the second is a top player but would close down space to our Kaka, a talent we want to go on trusting in. ’

Ok, so rule out Ronaldo... :D and Ronaldhino....:moan:

zlatanov

07-06-2005, 11:49

Carlo Ancelotti: ’If it is possible, we will try to have at our disposal at least five strikers. This is the package where we suffered most due to injuries.’

Good morning, Milanello. Finally people are beginning to see things clearly and in prospective.

KhRiS

07-06-2005, 12:37

Now it Looks Like JDT will stay, Gila will come too, Crespo it all depends on Chelsea, Maybe we could convince Mourinho to take Brocchi and Kaladze in exchange. :p286:

zlatanov

07-06-2005, 12:47

I would throw in Donadel, as well, although they would be robbing us then but still ... I like Chelsea :w221: :devf: :diablo:

Xudong

07-06-2005, 16:10

COMPETITIVE UNTIL THE END
6/7/2005 11:23:00 AM
Carlo Ancelotti guested on the Milan Channel on Monday evening and answered the questions of the fans with his usual clear mind and determination. He started by making a promise to the Rossoneri crowds: ’I can’t assure that there won’t be black-outs anymore as the recent ones because difficult moments could happen and we will have to react as we have always done, but what I can guarantee is that even next season we will be competitive until the end on all fronts.’ The coach looked back at the Istanbul defeat before focusing on present and future: ’At the restart against Liverpool there were no signals hinting at the worst. When the bad moment came, everything happened very quickly. We made some mistakes, as [Jaap] Stam who didn’t mark Gerrard at first goal and [Clarence] Seedorf who came out to stop Smicer in place of [Andrea] Pirlo, but they were not those big mistakes to hint at such a disaster.’ Speaking about the domestic campaign, he added: ’Of 180 minutes played in the two games against Juventus, Milan have dominated for 150. However, there is a merit that the Bianconeri must be credited: they would have won the games against Brescia and Siena, while we have shared points or lost to them.’ Ancelotti then looked ahead and revealed: ’The three-man defence? Sometimes we have tried to play with the wingers wide and in certain games this choice paid dividends. This year it was a bit improvised: we will try it better this summer. For all of us it is better to have some innovations: also to make training more exciting, to break the routine and stimulate the attention.’ And he concluded: ’If it is possible, we will try to have at our disposal at least five strikers. This is the package where we suffered most due to injuries.’

I firmly believe that JDT will definitely stay. :)

KhRiS

07-06-2005, 16:57

This is already being discussed on another thread. :zany:

mk18

07-06-2005, 17:50

if were gonna have 5 strikers then i would like it to be like this according to preference

1) shevchenko
2) gilardino
3) crespo
4) di natale type of striker trying to fight for more minutes
5) pozzi

Henrik

07-06-2005, 18:50

which thread? I'll merge.

KhRiS

07-06-2005, 20:04

which thread? I'll merge.

Milan/Berlusconi Plan Major Coup!!!!

LoL just kidding. :firedev:

mk18

07-06-2005, 20:55

thats my kind of joke... simply irritating :D

Nadir

08-06-2005, 09:35

sheva, pippo, JDT, crespo, Vucinic/toni/lucarelli

zlatanov

08-06-2005, 14:05

Sami Kuffour has signed for Roma as a free agent. Maybe now, if the money is right, they could consider selling Chivu as they still have Panucci, Mexes, and Ferarri.
Should Khaka leave, I think we will definitely need a solid player for that LB role, and Chivu can play very well there, and not only.

Henrik

08-06-2005, 14:09

Should Khaka leave, I think we will definitely need a solid player for that LB role, and Chivu can play very well there, and not only.
Don't you think Jankulowski, Maldini, Pancaro and as a last resort Sergihno can adequately do the job?

zlatanov

08-06-2005, 14:29

I am not convinced Pancaro will stay with us for his loan deal will end on June 31st, I think, plus I wouldn't expect Carlo to trust him that much after some truely awful performances this season. Something tells me that if it was up to Carlo, Pancaro would be packing for Rome already.
As for Janku, he is more of a Serginho-type LB - great forward but not very solid defensively. He definitely can, and IMO should, be played at LB but only against smaller teams that come to defend with 10 men at the SS.
Thus it is only Maldini who we have left as a solid player at LB and I don't think it would be wise to start a season, where we are hoping for a treble, like that.
The main reason why mention Chivu is because he can play LB and CD equally well and after 2006/07 I wouldn't be surprised if both Maldini and Stam were to leave. I think it would be best if we start incorporating their heir(s) into the team from now and not only after they have left us.

Warro Bantan

08-06-2005, 14:57

Henrik

08-06-2005, 15:19

I see your point Zlatanov, but I think it depends on if Milan will play 4-3-1-2 or 3-4-1-2

I thought Pancaro extended one more season....

With a straight 3 man defence, Chivu (or someone like hime is needed) provided that Kaladze leaves. You would have Maldini-Nesta-Stam and Chivu-Costacurta-Simic(or a replacement)

With a 4 man defence I envision (but do not agree with) that the starting back four would be Jankulowski-Maldini-Nesta-Cafu with the following back-ups Pancaro-Costacurta-Stam-Simic (or Oddo if he is bought).

If indeed a 4 man defense is retained, quite regardless of who starts, I justcan't see Jankulowski, Maldini, Nesta, Stam, Cafu AND Chivu all fighting for first team spots.

martin

08-06-2005, 15:31

i think we have too many defenders for now and we just bought janks. we wud need to sell kaladze and move janks in seedrofs position to fit chivu in. i think chivu is destined for inter, but i really hope it doesnt happen.

mk18

08-06-2005, 17:54

i think the best thing to do is to hope that chivu stays with roma for 2 more seasons until maldini or/and stam leave us

hitmannq8

08-06-2005, 18:40

there will not be a big summer buy

Dave

09-06-2005, 05:36

Milan Seal Oddo Deal – Report
6/9/2005 7:48:00 AM
The Rossoneri offered a 4-year deal to the Lazio full-back.
According to insistent transfer rumours, Milan and Massimo Oddo have reached an agreement for the Biancoceleste defender to move to Carlo Ancelotti’s side.

Both club officials are expected to meet in the coming days to define the details of the transfer, but the deal seems already sealed.

Related Information:

zlatanov

09-06-2005, 06:54

slicknick

09-06-2005, 08:40

I would like to see Ronaldo as a Rossonero but I feel like he is way too expensive, we can get three or four players(young) we would need for our weak spots.
And about Oddo, I think it can be a good idea to sign him....Why not? There is one thing which disturbs me though and that is the fact that we do not have any wonderkids in our squad except for Kaka... I kinda wanna see players such as Cristiano Ronaldo, Diego, Robinho, Mexes, Iniesta, or even Rooney although Rooney would never leave United...

Warro Bantan

09-06-2005, 09:38

there will not be a big summer buy...Unless there is...:D

KhRiS

09-06-2005, 12:23

there will not be a big summer buy

Of late we have stopped buying big and and started spending wisely, we have recruited really well in the past few seasons, keep up the good work Galliani, Braida.

Sheva7_Evo

10-06-2005, 01:17

2002/2003 bought nesta. Win CL
2003/2004 bought kaka. Win Serie A
2004/2005 loaned crespo. Nearly wins CL

a big buy is imperative

Dave

11-06-2005, 07:55

2005/2006Gila and Janku and wins CL and Serie A!

mrki

11-06-2005, 08:34

I agree, there will NOT be any big summer signings.
With janku, gila, oddo, vogel we have more that enough to win it all, and we have to win it next season. Just look at our squad . covered at all places- perfect!! We dont need any ronaldo's or some other lazy players. Maybe chive next year, if inter didnt sign him already.

meazza

11-06-2005, 08:57

we need a replacement for seedorf.

sorry, I'm a broken record, but we do.

we cannot have that waster being an automatic first team choice.

Kui

11-06-2005, 09:10

we need a replacement for seedorf.

sorry, I'm a broken record, but we do.

we cannot have that waster being an automatic first team choice.

No your not a broken record. Records are passe. The present term might be... your stuck on replay. Does he even play for the National Team anymore???

zlatanov

11-06-2005, 10:28

No your not a broken record. Records are passe. The present term might be... your stuck on replay. Does he even play for the National Team anymore???
Roy Makkay also doesn't play there, yet he is breaking record after record in Bayern. A player not being part of the NT often has nothing to do with his qualitie, or lack thereof, but with the NT coach's opinion, etc.

KhRiS

11-06-2005, 10:29

Roy Makkay also doesn't play there, yet he is breaking record after record in Bayern. A player not being part of the NT often has nothing to do with his qualitie, or lack thereof, but with the NT coach's opinion, etc.

I think you have'nt understood the above conversations. :w209:

zlatanov

11-06-2005, 10:35

I think you have'nt understood the above conversations. :w209:
I understood it quite well - I read all the posts, and not just the last one. But when you insert a comment like that - "does he aven play in the National team" - in the middle of "conversations" questioning Seedorf's abilities, I don't think there is any ambiguity to what you are implying.
Plus, trust me, there is nothing too complex about the above "conversations" so that it can be misunderstood :stupid: :5ok:

Kui

11-06-2005, 11:26

No your not a broken record. Records are passe. The present term might be... your stuck on replay. Does he even play for the National Team anymore???

The quote came from me. I was asking a question if he "even" plays for the national team not as a question to his abilities. My question was as a Milan player, how is it that he does not play on the national team???? Of course it is up to the coach... none other than Marco Van Basten.

kris

13-06-2005, 01:40

The quote came from me. I was asking a question if he "even" plays for the national team not as a question to his abilities. My question was as a Milan player, how is it that he does not play on the national team???? Of course it is up to the coach... none other than Marco Van Basten.

They think he is lazy. that is all I heard from the Dutch I asked.

Warro Bantan

14-06-2005, 11:55

From: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/4092342.stm

Liverpool cash in on European win

Champions League winners Liverpool have earned £20.5m from their European run to top the tournament's earnings table.

Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal made up three of the top four Champions League earners, with Manchester United in eighth place.

Chelsea secured £18.8m from television money and performance bonuses, Arsenal were fourth with £15.7m, while Manchester United picked up £10.9m.

Beaten finalists AC Milan were third with £17.5m and Celtic bagged £7m.
1: Liverpool £20.5m (winners)
2. Chelsea £18.8m (last four)
3. AC Milan £17.5 (runners-up)
4. Arsenal £15.7m (last 16)
8. Man Utd £10m (last 16

Now, that is £17.5m that we can use to "splash" out on a player of class, since we are only paying Crespo, as opposed to purchasing him outright.

If Galliani is able to pursuade Berlu to cough up another £25, and we spend say even £10m on Janku and Oddo, that leaves us with £32m...not a small sum, and though certainly not enough to prise Ronnie from Barca, or the elder Ronnie from Madrid, it is enough to combine with a player (JDT for instance) and enable us to make that "major coup" that I do so hope we make.

I wonder if Raul wants to come to Italy? :5horse: Things that make you go hmmmmmmm....

Maradona (10)

14-06-2005, 12:20

Raul........Raul!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Whats the obsession with Raul? No thanks.

Warro Bantan

14-06-2005, 12:39

Whats your obsession with Maradona? :D

mk18

14-06-2005, 12:48

maradona is something... raul is a nothing

Warro Bantan

14-06-2005, 14:10

:hah2: maradona is something... raul is a nothing
Raul........Raul!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Whats the obsession with Raul? No thanks.

I refuse to get into a debate re Raul vs :v408: Maradona (the little God in my book), but I would like to point out that I was being sarcastic, though this last seems to be lost on a few people here...

Lighten up guys...of course Raul doesnt compare to Maradona, are you loony or something...?:haha:

But, to add a little fuel to the fire....would you want Raul or Maradona to come to Milan before the transfer window closes for 2005...:haha:

Dr Milano

14-06-2005, 15:04

:hah2:

I refuse to get into a debate re Raul vs :v408: Maradona (the little God in my book), but I would like to point out that I was being sarcastic, though this last seems to be lost on a few people here...

Lighten up guys...of course Raul doesnt compare to Maradona, are you loony or something...?:haha:

But, to add a little fuel to the fire....would you want Raul or Maradona to come to Milan before the transfer window closes for 2005...:haha:
no raul isnt good offf form

Mehdi

14-06-2005, 16:26

From: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/4092342.stm

Now, that is £17.5m that we can use to "splash" out on a player of class, since we are only paying Crespo, as opposed to purchasing him outright.

It doesn't work like that. We get more from Serie A TV rights (around £60 million) but remember most of the money generated by all clubs goes on wages. The G14 agreed a while back to try and limit 70% of turnover on wages so that shows how little we have to play with. Our major advantage is Berlusconi.

Dave

15-06-2005, 06:59

Raul is a legend! Super player but I don`t want to see him in Milan! he is ofform!

mk18

15-06-2005, 10:58

raul? legend??? ... puh-leez

Gio-mania

15-06-2005, 11:28

raul has made wonderful things at madrid since he joined...............
i mean if u compare him to maradona, v.basten etc. he is nothing- but most players are………
yet i wouldnt like him at milan- ttoo cocky(plays in real)

Dr Milano

15-06-2005, 12:21

hitmannq8

16-06-2005, 14:01

Raul has been very ****ty in the last 2 seasons.. I dont want to see him at Milan.. maybe the only player from Real I'd like is Ronaldo, but its alright if he doesn't come, Alberto will come hopefully..

I also admire Riquelme, but he wouldnt fit in our system unfortunately.

Robinho should be our primary target. He is young and is excellent and is available, I can't believe we're totally ignoring hm

Warro Bantan

17-06-2005, 09:32

We arent hitmannq8, because as I see it, we normally buy players that are close to 30, (Kaka and Sheva and Pirlo are the three noteable exceptions)...and he is waaaaay too young for Galliani´s liking... :D anyhoo, Real Madrid are in pole position to get the young Brazilian phenom, worse with Luxemburgo, his old coach, at the Madrid helm.

Warro Bantan

04-07-2005, 12:08

Ok, so can we add, Gerrard to the list of possible splashes? Dont think we need him, but that never stopped a money rich owner from doing the insensible...oh wait..I forgot, this is Milan we are talking about, not Madrid...:rollani:

Still, we could do worse than Gerrard....but if cant meet Parma´s asking price for the Italian international, then we certainly wont be able to match Liverpool´s valuation of their midfield lynchpin.

Henrik

04-07-2005, 12:10

....but if cant meet Parma´s asking price for the Italian international, then we certainly wont be able to match Liverpool´s valuation of their midfield lynchpin.
A solid point that should end speculations over Gerrard :p286: