View Full Version : Season 2005/2006 (transfers/rumours/news)
shevaandkaka'
22-04-2005, 14:36
it will be chivu
shevaandkaka'
22-04-2005, 14:39
chivu will come
None of these players have been signed officially. These are just rumours. However we're in pole position for Gilardino and Jankulovsky, but there's nothing official. Personally I just think that 2 players will come from your list.
don't think all those you mentioned are coming. as for chivo, it would be a dream. :)
Peachtot
22-04-2005, 20:36
Jankulovski had been confirmed, I think..
And the resting players haven't yet..
Gilla, Pizzaro and Jankilovski will come I`m sure!
About Casseti and Chivu I`m not sure!
What I want to see in Milan next season for sure are Gila, Bonera and Chivu. About Cassetti and Pizzaro I havent many clues to judge them. But I guess that they wont disappint me ;)
gendut milan
23-04-2005, 05:45
CHIVU AND RONALDINHO YES!AND MIREL RADOI IS ALTERNATIFE IF WE DONT GET CHIVU!! :devf:
janku and Gila will likely come. I am not sure about Pizzaro, I have a feeling the board may aim for someone less pricey like Baronio.
I think we'd all like a defender and more over we'd all like Chivu, it's a possibility, Milan may be holding back their interest and use the Inter and Juve speculation to gauge whether or not he's likely to move.
sehnsucht79
23-04-2005, 08:18
Although, rumours do admit that Janks is more inclined to join Juventus. But we'll never really know till it happens will we? ;) There are also strong speculations that Gila will most definitely come to Milan, so thats that. I highly doubt Pizarro will come though.
Chivu would be a strong addition to the team, but I dont think Bonera is competent enough for Milan. Really, he's one of the most overrated youngsters.
Jankulovski, Gilardino and Pizzaro are all needed ... Cassetti for right-back would also be a good idea.
Bonera and Chivu ? Well they would be 4th choice centre-backs, i can't see either liking that too much.
ACMILAN1983
23-04-2005, 17:11
Firstly, we sign who we must. Secondly, never bring in too many at a time, as it will result in problems for the continuity of the squad.
Jim, great avatar!! :D
how is jankulovski linked closer to juve than milan sehnsucht79?
i think this is a dream thread... i tihnk next season wed see gila and jankulovski and maybe van bommel
sehnsucht79
24-04-2005, 06:17
Rumours regarding Janks as far as Im concerned always linked him heavily with Juve in comparison to Milan .. Janks would be a great addition of either team IMO
but he never seemed like hell join juve on the contrary to his links with milan, where some think hes already a milan player next season, also he himself never said hes gonna join juve, while he considered himself a milan player on many occasions .. besides his ties to juve are a thing from the past unlike to milan
sehnsucht79
24-04-2005, 08:48
perhaps but in a quantity context rather than quality he is linked with juventus more .. but eventually I dont believe in words and rumours anyway, but I do like to revel at it :D
i think it would be ideal if we signed van bommel for next season, along side with gila and jankulovsky. We can get v.bommel for free ( only personal terms ) and he is way better player than pizzaro or baronio. Still, we need a new RB and Oddo colud be a usefull solution since he is also going out of contract at the end of season, and has always been ac milan fan! so with gila, janku, bommel and oddo we have a perfect team for next season .
P.S. We MUST sell tomasson, brocchi, pancaro...
Gio-mania
24-04-2005, 09:56
. P.S. We MUST sell tomasson, brocchi, pancaro...
i agree. they are pretty much useless.
if we get gila aswell as crespo then we have 4 strikers!!!
and maybe get boriello back? boriello has been quite good this season. and inzaghi isnt fully reliable- not on the field, but because of his injuries..
im still not 100% sure on the RB spot... there seems to be a lack of really great RBs today.. only cafu comes to my mind ... but the rest i agree with
id like to see inzaghi out, maybe tomasson if we can get a di vaio like player and pancaro as well as simic and brocchi
We can sell Pippo, JDT Simic, Pancaro, Brocchi and but V. Bommel, Chivu, Jankulovski and Gilla! WE`ll be a superior team!
ac_milan_foreva
24-04-2005, 16:10
ok here are some things to consider
1) If udinese make it to the CL they will keep those players
2) Gila is a juve fan and juventus might snatch him so we have to move quickly.
3) These players havent been signed yet.
ok here is the likelyhood that each will happen.
jankulovski- 70%
casetti- 30 %
gilardino- 60 %
pizararo- 40%
ac_milan_foreva
24-04-2005, 16:12
We can sell Pippo, JDT Simic, Pancaro, Brocchi and but V. Bommel, Chivu, Jankulovski and Gilla! WE`ll be a superior team!
why on earth would we want van bommel?????? that will be a mistake. he is old. why buy more old defenders??? :confused:
chivu would be a good buy but no way will we buy both gila and chivu, but the money that will come from our scudetto and CL win :D might help us do that. Why sell all those players. you want to become like juve and have no depth? ok sell brocchi and pipo and simic but keep JDT and pancaro
Van Bommel isn't an old defender for one thing ac_milan_foreva, he's a midfielder.
Pancaro won't be here next season, i've seen it mentioned a few times before that he'll be going back to Lazio because he's on loan. This is what i've read elsewhere, i don't know if that's true or not. But anyway, the point is, Jankulovski and Kaladze will be our left-backs for next season (assuming we get him ), likewise if we get another right-back, Simic will surely leave us as he's just wasting away on the bench right now.
ac_milan_foreva
24-04-2005, 16:54
Van Bommel isn't an old defender for one thing ac_milan_foreva, he's a midfielder.
Pancaro won't be here next season, i've seen it mentioned a few times before that he'll be going back to Lazio because he's on loan. This is what i've read elsewhere, i don't know if that's true or not. But anyway, the point is, Jankulovski and Kaladze will be our left-backs for next season (assuming we get him ), likewise if we get another right-back, Simic will surely leave us as he's just wasting away on the bench right now.
still i dont think that van bomel is the way to go. i think there are MUCH better options available however wont he be on a free agent in the summer?
it worries me that gila is juve fan. But didnt we already signed something with him???!!! we really need him for next year. Tomasson is usseles, he can go. so i brocchi and simic and pancaro. chivu would be an IDEAL SIGNING but i doubt it! capello would do everything to get him. Moggy and juve can be really smart when it comes to buyng players, we should do same thing as them, get more of the younger players and react quickly and quietly as juve does.
( Cassano, gianniceda ( not sure how to spell it), kovac, mutu, chiellini, some guy from river plate... ) juve did well for the next season, we have to do it as well. Hey Silvio, give us some money to expand our squad!!
Sheva7_Evo
24-04-2005, 19:50
there seems to be a lack of really great RBs today..
so true.
think about it... Gary Neville wins PFA award @ RB.
i saw the lazio vs juve match and i think oddo is simply super... he would easily make it into one of the worlds best 5 RBs... but i prefer we get him once cafu leaves us because a player like oddo has to start
sehnsucht79
25-04-2005, 02:21
ok here are some things to consider
1) If udinese make it to the CL they will keep those players
2) Gila is a juve fan and juventus might snatch him so we have to move quickly.
3) These players havent been signed yet.
ok here is the likelyhood that each will happen.
jankulovski- 70%
casetti- 30 %
gilardino- 60 %
pizararo- 40%
1) they probably keep a few, but surely Udinese will be looking to sell even if they make it to CL ? Money talks
2) Doesnt matter.
Oddo was good wasnt he. I was actually quite surprised no one has bought him yet. Hes not 'up there' yet but he definitely has potential, with a little brushing he'll do fine.
yeah and another lazio player i really liked was emmanuele fillipini ... i also felt so bad for him juve kept pushing him around.. im so surprised that no juve players got redcards but then again ur known to have links with refs, right?
it worries me that gila is juve fan. But didnt we already signed something with him???!!! we really need him for next year. Tomasson is usseles, he can go. so i brocchi and simic and pancaro. chivu would be an IDEAL SIGNING but i doubt it! capello would do everything to get him. Moggy and juve can be really smart when it comes to buyng players, we should do same thing as them, get more of the younger players and react quickly and quietly as juve does.
( Cassano, gianniceda ( not sure how to spell it), kovac, mutu, chiellini, some guy from river plate... ) juve did well for the next season, we have to do it as well. Hey Silvio, give us some money to expand our squad!!
I think few Roma and Juve transfers will happen this summer. Roma where furious they where forced into less money by Emerson, they hate Capello, they hate Juve in general. Cassano might go because it's a similar situation to Emerson but Chivu or anyone else that might be ok staying or move to another club will do so, I think anyway.
CHIVU AND RONALDINHO YES!AND MIREL RADOI IS ALTERNATIFE IF WE DONT GET CHIVU!! :devf:
How do you know about Radoi? Me I'm from Romania and I've seen him play a lot. He's good.
... never bring in too many at a time, as it will result in problems for the continuity of the squad.
That's very true!
how is jankulovski linked closer to juve than milan sehnsucht79?
It was stated on the official web-site of Milan that he would join us, not Juve, and I trust acmilan.com
Oddo colud be a usefull solution since he is also going out of contract at the end of season, and has always been ac milan fan!
I like Oddo and he'll be perfect to replace Cafu in some matches, in order for him to rest.
We MUST sell tomasson, brocchi, pancaro...
Tommason yeah, but the others we could keep, because they accept the fact that they are replacement players.
yeah and another lazio player i really liked was emmanuele fillipini ... i also felt so bad for him juve kept pushing him around.. im so surprised that no juve players got redcards but then again ur known to have links with refs, right?
I also liked the way he played last night against Juve. He was the player of the match IMO.
IMO most likely trasfers are Gila and Bonera. Tjose both are young and eanough agile for our team. Others, I really doubt, cuz Galliani&co. never use to buy many players who are very expencive.
What do you think about another Parma's talent - Cesare Bovo?
Real rejoin Gilardino race Monday 25 April, 2005
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Real Madrid have reportedly overtaken Milan in the chase to sign Parma hotshot Alberto Gilardino.
The Rossoneri were believed to have been in pole position for the striker but the Spanish giants may now have the advantage.
It was widely believed that the San Siro giants had basically already secured the Italian’s signature for a summer switch.
But Milan chief Adriano Galliani insisted on Saturday, before their 3-0 win over Parma, that no deal had been done.
"We have never talked about Gilardino with Parma," said the official. "The club is currently for sale and for that reason they are not discussing player transfers."
Milan were reportedly ready to pay £20m for the Azzurri starlet, a fee which the struggling Serie A outfit would happily accept.
Yet Real are back in for the former Piacenza youngster seeing as Michael Owen is expected to be sold.
The fact that former Parma official, Arrigo Sacchi, is now technical director with Real, a Bernabeu move may be a realistic possibility.
Gilardino has also admitted in the past that he would be ready to leave Serie A if a big club came calling.
"I would only leave Emilia for a great side," he said last year. "I would like an experience in Spain even if staying in Italy would be important for my international career."
Well...it was taken from channel4. And it is quite serious site. I still hope galliani is just keeping it quiet and that we will sign him. Also I have seen Oddo against juve, he played superb and could be really usefull as cafu replacement. And v. bommel is not coming, he is going to barca becouse of cocu and " franky ".
i saw the lazio vs juve match and i think oddo is simply super... he would easily make it into one of the worlds best 5 RBs... but i prefer we get him once cafu leaves us because a player like oddo has to start
It`s better to sign him now and what a bad news about Gilla! Please Gilla join Milan not Real!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :gonova: :hihihi: :delol: :v46: I hope he will be Milan player!
sehnsucht79
26-04-2005, 04:31
yeah and another lazio player i really liked was emmanuele fillipini ... i also felt so bad for him juve kept pushing him around.. im so surprised that no juve players got redcards but then again ur known to have links with refs, right?
whoa there, whats up with the unnecessary harsh tone ? I hope I didnt say anything about Milan to offend you somehow.
Isnt E. Fillipini old though ? But he was always better than his brother IMO
this is a milan fan site... so its expected ud see that type of reaction .. besides.. its true everyone knows u and refs get along really well
sehnsucht79
26-04-2005, 20:21
Of course its true about Juventus and referees, I never disputed the fact that they favour us (although I dont consider Juve having anything to do with it)
I think Milan'll get Gilardino
RB - Daniele Bonera, why on earth is so many still impressed by this player, to me he is a complete waste of space, we may aswell hold on to Simic. A much better option would in my oppinion be Cassetti, a player who really have developed his skills and impressed greatly during this season.
Gilardino is a gem, only concern for me is how strongly he feels for Juve. If he indeed is a big fan, then f*ck him. There is no logic in bringing in a player, no matter how good he may be, if his heart is Bianconere. This is AC Milan, you either dream of playing for us, or you´ll be punished when facing us.
Massimo Oddo, Emmanuele Filippini, Cesare Bovo (along with Bonera) = a test for Ancelotti, if he wants these players in Milan, then the rumours are in fact true, Carlo needs glasses, thick ones. If we somehow manage to sign Filippini I´ll just cry, it´ll be to pathetic to even get pissed about. Bovo is not a talent, he is a mental patient.
Stezagud
27-04-2005, 10:03
Real Madrid have reportedly overtaken Milan in the chase to sign Parma hotshot Alberto Gilardino.
"We have never talked about Gilardino with Parma," said the official. "The club is currently for sale and for that reason they are not discussing player transfers."
I dont get it?
If Parma arent discussing transfers then how can Real have overtaken us :rolleyes: :D
RB - Daniele Bonera, why on earth is so many still impressed by this player, to me he is a complete waste of space, we may aswell hold on to Simic. A much better option would in my oppinion be Cassetti, a player who really have developed his skills and impressed greatly during this season.
Gilardino is a gem, only concern for me is how strongly he feels for Juve. If he indeed is a big fan, then f*ck him. There is no logic in bringing in a player, no matter how good he may be, if his heart is Bianconere. This is AC Milan, you either dream of playing for us, or you´ll be punished when facing us.
Massimo Oddo, Emmanuele Filippini, Cesare Bovo (along with Bonera) = a test for Ancelotti, if he wants these players in Milan, then the rumours are in fact true, Carlo needs glasses, thick ones. If we somehow manage to sign Filippini I´ll just cry, it´ll be to pathetic to even get pissed about. Bovo is not a talent, he is a mental patient.
why whats wrong with filipini? if u saw him vs juve ud better think twice, and thats not the only good match he played, hes been great all season and infact im sure his name caught my attention when we played lazio... but i agree i dont think we should sign him because we shouldnt be looking for a player like him
infact im sure his name caught my attention when we played lazio...
yeah it was almost like there was two of them.
;)
that's my problem with a fillipini's, I never know which one has put in the good games and which one hasn't.
Maradona (10)
27-04-2005, 20:29
Now it looks like Chelsea jumped on the Gila's sweepstakes as well.
:yuck:
Hopefully he is already property of AC Milan. Is it a FACT that he is a Juve fan? I have no problem with this, as long as he is a professional. If he is a die-hard "juventino", he might as well stay away from the Rossonero.
hitmannq8
27-04-2005, 20:35
hmm i really highly doubt that any of the players will come..
Jankulovski would certainly want Juve over us, but I think we are closer at the moment. A positive note is that, this time last year, reports said that we had agreed a deal for Stam, and all the transfer rumours of Stam have simply disappeared. This is what has happened with Marek Jankulovski, after all those reports that we have a deal signed already, there hasnt been any more rumours about him.
Gilardino? Everyone everyone is already saying he is a Milan player, that is why I highly doubt he'll come..I know for a fact that if Juve come in for him, he will want Juventus over us, because he did say "Its any1's dream to play for Milan but i am surprised why Juve stopped their interest in me and why they still dont want me".. I think Moggi might also be using Cassano speculation to then change his mind and get Gilardino. It would be great if we get Cassano though!
We are looking for a replacement for Pirlo. Its true that Pizarro is a bit too expensive, but I think, if we were to get a replacement, we'd get Baronio. I really think we should just have Rui Costa has Pirlo's replacement, because Rui is an outstanding player, and recently he played one of his best games for Milan in the 3-0 win over Parma. Rui has already been moved to the bench and doesnt get much minutes in the attacking midfielder role anymore, he only gets minutes in the Pirlo role, and now, we are trying to get someone else for that position. I really think we should just stick with Rui.
Casetti? I hope we get him. But I think we'd go for Oddo.
I really think Milan will only get Gilardino, but that is very highly unlikely if Juve come in IMO. Then, we'll get Jankulovski. I think we'll only get one of those names you mentioned.
I REALLY HOPE AND WISH TO GOD WE GET ROBINHO
First of all Jankulovski is OUR player, already confirmed. No idea discussing wether he will come as both he and our club have said that. Discuss instead how we will use him.
why whats wrong with filipini? if u saw him vs juve ud better think twice, and thats not the only good match he played, hes been great all season and infact im sure his name caught my attention when we played lazio... but i agree i dont think we should sign him because we shouldnt be looking for a player like him
Filipini is possibly serie A's biggest diver and also a player that likes to kick down his opponents. He throws himself down the grass if you as much as look angry at him. His only remedy is that he have a lot of energy, all in all hardly a player for Milan.
I seen people talk about Oddo as "talent", you should know that he is 29 years old and at his peak. He is a good player tough and our former primavera so I wouldn't complain about that.
Grande-Milan-DK
28-04-2005, 05:36
Sorry - Iam very glad to hear that Jankulovski is a Milan player, but I have newer read any news on the officiel page, that he will join us next season.
I also agree on Bonera - Why the hell waste money on him. Bonera is just a name that is popular as people believe he is talented. Take a look in Parma games and on the U21 Italien team - he is by far not Milan class.
Oddo would be great as we than have two Cafu´s :)
I think nothing is decided about Gilardino and Milan other strikers. Today it`s being said that Milan will get Jankulovski and sell Kaladze to Chelsea as part of the deal with Crespo
Where have you find that Janku is our player, Kris?
sorry but fillipini is a really goood player, maybe not milan standard but he has definatly played extremely well since he joined lazio.
i think and i pray that well get janku and gila for certain, gila being a juve fan or real showing interest in him is of no concern to me, one thing i noticed is that if at any point milan seem to have signed a pre-contract with a player and even if they deny it later on they get that guy for the following season, i dont know why some people here freak out when they hear that chelsea or real or juve are suddenly interested in a player we want so badly, milan has just the same spending power and even a better reputation than those teams so if u ask me, if he wants to become a milan player and milan want him then theylle get him no matter who tries to stop us from doing so. :stuckup:
sorry but fillipini is a really goood player, maybe not milan standard but he has definatly played extremely well since he joined lazio.
Please, he is pretty much skilless and traded his "skills" in serie A for many years without any considerably succes. he can win you a couple of balls, but would never contribute a trifle in offense. Brocchi is better, but he is also not really good enough for us. Fillipini should be named in the same sentence as Milan. Darn now I did just that!
If we give kaladze to chelsea becouse we want crespo then it would be the WORST move possible!! Kaladze is only 26 and plays really well. we dont need crespo that bad, ( except Carlo really likes him ), If we get Gila then we have enough forwards ( sheva , pippo, gila, JDT - he is not that good any more ). Why pay 10 or more mil. for 29 years old crespo????!! Im just scared that we wont sign gilardino as out managament can sometimes do really stupid moves...
im not saying hes a ronaldinho but the guy got decent dribbling, his passing isnt bad, his fighting spirit is second to gattuso, his mentality aint bad at all, gattuso has little skill that doenst make him a bad player does it?
Peachtot
28-04-2005, 08:45
im not saying hes a ronaldinho but the guy got decent dribbling, his passing isnt bad, his fighting spirit is second to gattuso, his mentality aint bad at all, gattuso has little skill that doenst make him a bad player does it?
Of course he's far to ronaldinho's.... :p231: :p231:
Why the wagging fingers Peachtot ? Mk wasn't saying he played like Ronaldinho at all ... you don't have to be so defensive of your favourite player.
sehnsucht79
28-04-2005, 22:14
Im glad that some agree Bonera would be a waste.
Milan will get either Janks or Gila, or if things really go well maybe both .
Why make an issue over Gilardino being a Juventus fan ? It wont matter. If Milan came up with the better offer, he'd go to Milan, AND, him being a "juve fan" probably means when he was younger he adored Juventus and all that stuff. It wont matter at all once he comes to Milan. In fact many players are fans of other teams when they were younger but it doesnt affect their game at all .. supporting a team while playing for one are different things. And for "gila playing in Milan but has a juve heart", if all goes will for Gilardino in Milan surely that'd change.
I wish that all juve fans think the way you do, especially that old fart Moggi. I do not believe those romours - Gila is bianconero in his heart. If I were him I would say that aloud, so that other teams have no doubt what club I support and have no ilusions to sign me.
Otherwise there is also a question why Galliani is so timid while the talk is going about Gila and his probable move to Lombardia's capital. It is sound a bit strange... may be he is negotiating with his agent under closed door, and anounce about it only when transfer is confirmed.
sehnsucht79
29-04-2005, 05:15
Exactly.. I never trust rumours especially the "open" ones... Do you really think our directors or even players would admit to anything? They're just toying with us.. Moggi's a master at it.
Although, Stam's case was a bit different. In that sense I guess I wont be surprised if Janks really does go to Milan
speaking of jankulovski i found this on www.planetfootball.com
Chelsea are rumoured to be considering hijacking Milan's move for Marek Jankulovski.
The Czech stopper has been in tremendous form so far this term for Udinese, and has been close to agreeing a deal with Carlo Ancelotti's side.
However, with Jose Mourinho in the market for a new left back, the 27-year-old admits his head has been turned by Roman Abramovich's riches.
The Blues are reportedly ready to put together an £8 million offer in the summer to outbid the Rossoneri, and Jankulovski admitted that despite it being mere speculation at the moment he was intrigued by a prospective £50,000 per week contract.
"It's only a rumour," Jankulovski told Idnes.
"If there had been a specific offer I would consider it.
"I know of Chelsea's interest only from a newspaper, that's a thing that can't make me nervous.
"That's interesting [the rumoured contract], but I really haven't pondered over it."
After seeing his interest in Ashley Cole dragged through the headlines after the tapping-up row, Mourinho has turned his attentions to Italy with Juventus star Gianluca Zambrotta identified as a target as well as Jankulovski.
However if they are to secure the Udinese player they will have to overcome the strong links he has already forged with Milan, with the player recently stating that he was close to clinching a deal at Stadio Giuseppe Meazza.
"I hope at 90 percent it will succeed, I don't want to touch wood but it's only to sit for an hour and sign some documents," stated Jankulovski.
So... we have jankulovski then. Its ok . Now get things done with gila,oddo and find someone for pirlo's substitution. And we are untouchible for the next season.
Massimo Oddo could be real solution for RB position as he can attack well and we could rest cafu before some big games. Sheva is the greatest one but we need someone as deadly as sheva and Gial is the man. Pirlo also plays too much, pizzaro can do the job but i dont like him so much. Maybe we can look somewhere in Brazil or Argentina...there are always some great talents out there. Thats Leonardo's job. We need just 4 players for next season and we have a perfect squad.
P.S. Craotian news say that V.Bommel has signed for barca 99% so he is out of play for us.
i think we would be more than fine with only gila and jankulovski ... id sign oddo in the future, hes a player that should be a starter and he wont get that here... infact hell play very few game, as for pirlos sub i noticed that im against it, if we do get that some1 then this will limit the playing time of ambro and rui costa who both are used to play in pirlos place when hes unavailable and so far this season both did not dissapoint. i also think that we should keep tomasson as he just proved his worth to the team, i hope we sell inzaghi and maybe get di vaio or some1 similar instead thats offcourse if tomasson leaves or crespo doesnt join us
sehnsucht79
29-04-2005, 22:55
good thing is that article from planetfootball, whom I find not trustworthy at all. getting BOTH gila and janks would be grand for Milan (doh) ... Im still on the fence about Oddo, like someone mentioned he is at his peak but when he comes to Milan you wont know whats gonna happen to him. He was fairly disappointing in previous seasons, but I do believe better defence grow with age..
Peachtot
02-05-2005, 09:57
Why the wagging fingers Peachtot ? Mk wasn't saying he played like Ronaldinho at all ... you don't have to be so defensive of your favourite player.
so funny comparing fillipini to dinho... :haha:
that's it...
man really it can get irritating when u mentioned ronaldinho everywhere... it doesnt take a rocker scientist to figure out the plyaers worth u dont need to remind us in all ur posts :)
now i know how people felt when i kept mentioning drogba everywhere here last year
i give up peachtot .... although i would be interested to know if you have posted more than 10 times without mentioning Ronaldinho :D
I think if we do get any players, they should be players that are performing well in Serie A ... and thankfully all the players we have been linked with of late are from Serie A, meaning they don't have to get used to the league or anything.
Ronaldinho is a super player, but IMO Milan is not a right team for him! He can`t play in Serie A at all!
sehnsucht79
04-05-2005, 00:11
And how would you know that ?
Besides Barca would be crazy to sell Dinho anyway
savicevic
04-05-2005, 05:08
someone mentioned oddo. he is actually a milan nursery product, so he would fit in perfectly in the environment at the club.
i think the no. 1 priority is a replacement for pirlo when andrea is not able to play (suspension or injury or simply when he is granted a rest, which is very rare). we seem to miss him a lot when he is absent. but galliani has said that there are presently no players who can substitute pirlo. the ones ppl often mention are pizarro, baronio and van bommel, but, then again, no one from these 3 resembles pirlo and his unique way of playing the role.
nevertheless, the role of a "no.10 playing in defence" is something very new and created specifically by mazzone for pirlo (and used very cunningly by ancelotti). pirlo isn't an original of the role - he started out as a typical no. 10 ala baggio - see his first games at brescia, inter and italy under 21. so shouldn't milan be looking at a no.10 type of player who would be willing to move to defensive midfield with dedication, as pirlo did?
morfeo would be an example, i think. especially if parma get relegated.
i think maresca is a great choice ... but i think ambro doesnt deserve to see a player coming in and limit his chances, not just because of his goal today but because he has been playing really well these last couple of months
i think the no. 1 priority is a replacement for pirlo when andrea is not able to play (suspension or injury or simply when he is granted a rest, which is very rare). we seem to miss him a lot when he is absent. but galliani has said that there are presently no players who can substitute pirlo. the ones ppl often mention are pizarro, baronio and van bommel, but, then again, no one from these 3 resembles pirlo and his unique way of playing the role.
nevertheless, the role of a "no.10 playing in defence" is something very new and created specifically by mazzone for pirlo (and used very cunningly by ancelotti). pirlo isn't an original of the role - he started out as a typical no. 10 ala baggio - see his first games at brescia, inter and italy under 21. so shouldn't milan be looking at a no.10 type of player who would be willing to move to defensive midfield with dedication, as pirlo did?
morfeo would be an example, i think. especially if parma get relegated.
I dont think we need a replacement for Pirlo. We should just amend the system when hes injured. Otherwise there is not a player in the world who could do what Pirlo does and be willing to be a sub too. When Zidane was injured in the World Cup France kept the same system and replaced him with Micoud. It obviously didnt work. Milan have tried and failed with Rui and Ambro. The best bet is just to add an element of pace on the wings ie Serginhio.
We really need someone who can give Cafu a rest too.
Peachtot
05-05-2005, 09:48
now i know how people felt when i kept mentioning drogba everywhere here last year
Yeah... peoples would feel bored caused drogba isn't as great as you think mk18...:D :D
But Dinho's totally different... :hammer:
Ronaldinho is a super player, but IMO Milan is not a right team for him! He can`t play in Serie A at all!
Plz tell me an objective reason !!
For me :
IF milan want 1 or two trophies in a year, this time Milan dont need player (striker) like Gila or Cassano or Eto'o or Totti...
But if Milan want to be another Dream Team, Milan should by that player...
ps : Milan could advance to CL'Cup final after beating PSV. I think Milan didn't play as well as it should be and of course MIlan today is still far away to compare with MIlan dream team era...
Yeah... peoples would feel bored caused drogba isn't as great as you think mk18...:D :D
But Dinho's totally different... :hammer:
Plz tell me an objective reason !!
For me :
IF milan want 1 or two trophies in a year, this time Milan dont need player (striker) like Gila or Cassano or Eto'o or Totti...
But if Milan want to be another Dream Team, Milan should by that player...
ps : Milan could advance to CL'Cup final after beating PSV. I think Milan didn't play as well as it should be and of course MIlan today is still far away to compare with MIlan dream team era...
MAN ENOUGH!!! ... stop talking about him!!! .. dave please dont reply.. its really irritating.. look at the title of the thread and tell me where is ronaldinho mentioned there?
I know this will be dangerous as buying too many people will unbalance the side. But i think we do need around 6 new faces to be honest. It's hard to criticise a side who is still capable of winning the league and champion's league, but i think other sides have caught up with us and it's time to get tough and put sentiment aside with some players. I recognise that the expansion of the league (why the italian fa decided on that i'll never know, when every country wants to decrease the number of teams in a league, Italy increases the size :googly: ) is taking it's toll because the players just aren't used to playing weekends and midweek for long periods of time. But it can't all be put on tiredness.
Most of us here are very fickle, we'll be slating a player for most of the season, then that player plays well for about 4 matches and suddenly we all love them again and don't want them to leave. If we want to be dominant for seasons to come, then we need top quality players, not just make-shifts ... unproven players or free-transfers (unless there a good purchase like van Bommel).
What we lack right now is pace in every department of the game. We have hardly any pace in defence, none in midfield and some in attack. We have 1 regular goal scoring threat in Shevchenko and that's it. If you stop him and Kaka, then you almost stop the whole team. For a team like ourselves to be so reliant on a handful of players is disappointing to be honest.
People will say we don't need lots of changes, that we don't need replacements for Pirlo or whoever, well i disagree. Think of all the points we dropped or matches we've played poorly in and you'll see that just the inclusion of 1 quality midfielder might have changed things. All the times when our main midfielders were either out of form or were unfit, they could have been rested until they were 100% ready if we had a just one very good midfielder in our squad. Ambrosini is fantastic, has milan in his blood, but we all know he's not as technical as most. There's always Dhorassoo, but he's hardly been used which screams to me that Ancelotti doesn't trust him. Same with Simic. Cafu's been crying out for a decent rest, yet instead of playing our next most recognized right-back, we play Costacurta or Stam. So why do we keep those 2 if we won't use them. Surely it's better to have people used to the league who are ready to be used and then use them regularly, rather than have players rotting on the bench.
The 4 players in the title of this thread are good, i would maybe only add the odd 1 or 2 others, even if it meant loaning them out. At least we'd have them should we need them. A club of Milan's stature and presence can't get by on just getting free-transfers or squad players, at some point soon we'll have to splash out like we did for Nesta, Rui and Inzaghi if we expect to continue getting trophies. All i hope for is that whoever comes in is better and has more pace than what we have now so we have a competitive squad that isn't solely reliant on 2-3 players.
So come on Milan, make the other teams tremble with the players we get this summer !!!!!
Bravo!! this was great post!! Im totally agree on this. We need some pace in midfield. Cafu cant play all the time, and strikers are off form. We need replacement for cafu, and quality striker if we want to doninate europe next year. So mr.Galliani - splash some cash this year!!! But we have all thoes unused players like simic and dhorasso...why???
Simic can surely play as RB and can do really well. But he never plays, ancelotti really mekes me angry sometimes with his stupid tactics and ideas...
I know this will be dangerous as buying too many people will unbalance the side. But i think we do need around 6 new faces to be honest. It's hard to criticise a side who is still capable of winning the league and champion's league, but i think other sides have caught up with us and it's time to get tough and put sentiment aside with some players. I recognise that the expansion of the league (why the italian fa decided on that i'll never know, when every country wants to decrease the number of teams in a league, Italy increases the size :googly: ) is taking it's toll because the players just aren't used to playing weekends and midweek for long periods of time. But it can't all be put on tiredness.
Most of us here are very fickle, we'll be slating a player for most of the season, then that player plays well for about 4 matches and suddenly we all love them again and don't want them to leave. If we want to be dominant for seasons to come, then we need top quality players, not just make-shifts ... unproven players or free-transfers (unless there a good purchase like van Bommel).
What we lack right now is pace in every department of the game. We have hardly any pace in defence, none in midfield and some in attack. We have 1 regular goal scoring threat in Shevchenko and that's it. If you stop him and Kaka, then you almost stop the whole team. For a team like ourselves to be so reliant on a handful of players is disappointing to be honest.
People will say we don't need lots of changes, that we don't need replacements for Pirlo or whoever, well i disagree. Think of all the points we dropped or matches we've played poorly in and you'll see that just the inclusion of 1 quality midfielder might have changed things. All the times when our main midfielders were either out of form or were unfit, they could have been rested until they were 100% ready if we had a just one very good midfielder in our squad. Ambrosini is fantastic, has milan in his blood, but we all know he's not as technical as most. There's always Dhorassoo, but he's hardly been used which screams to me that Ancelotti doesn't trust him. Same with Simic. Cafu's been crying out for a decent rest, yet instead of playing our next most recognized right-back, we play Costacurta or Stam. So why do we keep those 2 if we won't use them. Surely it's better to have people used to the league who are ready to be used and then use them regularly, rather than have players rotting on the bench.
The 4 players in the title of this thread are good, i would maybe only add the odd 1 or 2 others, even if it meant loaning them out. At least we'd have them should we need them. A club of Milan's stature and presence can't get by on just getting free-transfers or squad players, at some point soon we'll have to splash out like we did for Nesta, Rui and Inzaghi if we expect to continue getting trophies. All i hope for is that whoever comes in is better and has more pace than what we have now so we have a competitive squad that isn't solely reliant on 2-3 players.
So come on Milan, make the other teams tremble with the players we get this summer !!!!!
im not sure ur 100% right, tell me, if we get 6 more players what are the chances of seeing all of them play as well as the already subs play, say we get cassetti, cafu has only recently looked tired, so cassetti plays 2-3 games and then its back to the bench! ... are u telling me those 2-3 games are worth the money wed spend on him? whats cruel about football is that its not easy to win when ur changing the formation from game to game, and its not easy for the same formation to always win, but if i were coach id go with choice number 2, i think all we need is gilardino, jankulovski, and a fast striker if 2 of JDT/inzaghi/crespo arent here next season ... even if we do get pacy players, they need time to find theyre form, ambrosini has proven this, i remember when he had a chance vs reggina he looked terrible and everyone bashed him, but with time he got more games and look at him now, hes been our best player for a while.
as for the games where we dropped points vs brescia.. etc, well name me 1 team in the whole world that never drops points, its true we had the game in our hands, but this is part of football and u have to accept it, and frankly if anything us milan fans have to accept it because weve won countless games in the dying seconds.
and besides nobody said that winning the double would be easy, so far weve been great, even when we look tired were still winning and thats all what counts, and to think that some of you question ancelotti... the guy in his first season got us the CL, coppa italia then the italian and european super cup along with the scudetto and come the end of the month maybe the another scudetto and CL title
In no way am i attacking Ancelotti, i wouldn't do that as i think he's a good coach, plus he knows what he's doing better than any of us :D
I understand your points mk and i'm not saying it's going to be easy, but surely having a few more players at your disposal would make run-ins like ours right now alot easier. Naturally a similar amount of players would leave to those who are bought in, so as not to make our squad a ridiculous size. If you think of how many games we'll have played this season, 38 in the league, 15 in the CL, i can't remember how far we got in the Coppa Italia so 4 or 6 games in that ... plus various one off games and you have a total of about 60. Using the Cassetti example, would Cafu have to play that many games ? No, he shouldn't have to IF we want the best out of him at the business end of the season. So if you include being a sub i think it's fair to say that Cassetti could end up with 20 - 30 appearances in a season. That would give Cafu 30 full games aswell as say 15 three-quarter games. I think that's plenty and fair enough on both players. It's the same with anyone else. If we just had Pizzaro he could take either Seedorf's or Pirlo's place as and when needed and end up with a large number of appearances.
Thinking about it, maybe 6 is too many as Jankulovski can play in Seedorf's role if needed aswell. He's played wide left for Udinese alot this season so it's not impossible for him to play alongside Pirlo and Gattuso sometimes.
It's not my intention to have a go at the team for losing points, like you said mk, all teams do that. But i'm just saying some of these points might have been regained if we had other players that Ancelotti trusted and were used to our league.
I think the 4 mentioned here and say Esposito or Miccoli would be ideal for us. Pace, goal scoring threats, Serie A quality, it's what we need in my opinion :)
i agree with u recent post more than the previous one, and just for the record i know u didnt attack carlo, that was directed at the ones who do such as mrki
after reading the jankulovski part, then it makes me think why not go for players like him, who can play in more than one position, instead of having a replacement that specializes in 1 position only why not have a player that can play in 3 positions, this is why janku would be a great buy, some would think, now who would i bench from stam nesta and maldini, and maybe seedorf... well its not as often as it seems that all 4 play at the same time, so janku would get alot of paying time... and he might perform better than seedorf.
i think gila and janku and a speedy striker that can also play in kakas role would be good enough, by the way jamie, u know why i like valencias sissoko who no one here happens to know? ... not only is he an excellent playerbut he has a rare ability, he plays very well in DM and he played equally good for valencia at RB because curro torres was injured... keep and eye on this guy, hes definatly one for the future.. then u can say i shouldve listened to MK18 :D
i can't see the spanish football, so i can't see Sissoko play ... so i'll have to bow to your knowledge here mk :pr115: :D
I agree with some things you say Jim, but not all. Yeah we definately need a pacey player, but not in midfield. Id like to see a pacey striker as Shev's partner. It just seems as if Sheva drags the defence around while our other strikers practically have to wait for a chance to come their way.
As far as replacing Pirlo goes, there are two options. Either replace him with "like to like" or adjust the system. In my opinion we cant replace Pirlo unless we persuade Xavi from Barca to play twice a year for us. Pirlo himself has taken much time to grow and learn in his position. Its easy when you play regular football. But we cant expect a Pizzaro to come and turn it on once every two months. That would be as unfair as expecting Pirlo to come back into the team after a long injury and play the way he does. Yes we always suffer when hes unavailable, but we only ever seem to try someone in his role. We should definately imploy different tactics when hes out.
If the rumours are to be believed then Milan will sign Gilardino, Jankulovski, a midfielder and a right back. If the last two signings turn out to be half decent then Id be happy. Jankulovski is like 2 signings because he can and will play at left back and also left wing. I must admit though Id like to see a lightning fast striker come.
Well, Im not saying that carlo is not a good coach, he has proven he can win things. And has made a real player out of pirlo. But...you cant alway defend him as our performance against PSV was clearly poor becouse of some carlos faults. The team is tired, its true, but in MY oppinion Carlo hasnt got 100% of Milans potential as capello did with juve. Carlo is still young coach and it can be seen that he is still improving, we need to change the formation sometimes like juve does and make more rotation in squad. Anyway CArlo is ok, a good critic is positive sometimes. And you must admit he can get it really wrong sometimes...
JANKULOVSKY can be very useful to us as he can play as a LB or as a LM or even at kaka's position sometimes. Seedorf can get some rest as he can have really bad periods of his game.
GILARDINO...I adore this man, he will be new striking force in the world, if we get him we'll score a lot vith kaka-sheva- gila.
ODDO- would be a great thing as he is a milan boy and is free in the end of the seasson. He is relatively fast and can attack and cross well.Get him.
As for midlield we can strill use rui,ambro,dhorasso and now janku. JUST NOT BROCCHI!!! We need to learn how to change formation more often and attack on the flanks against some teams that are only defending ( did so against parma and chievo )
MAN ENOUGH!!! ... stop talking about him!!! .. dave please dont reply.. its really irritating.. look at the title of the thread and tell me where is ronaldinho mentioned there?
Nowere!!!!! yes peachot plz STOP!!!!!!! :sagrin:
Ronaldinho here, Ronaldinho there, Ronaldinho's everywhere. [The Beatles -- Here, There and Everywhere]
:D :haha:
I think some of these new players would get alot more opportunities than we think. Personally i would play Jankulovski at first choice left-back, he has the pace, skill and energy to go up and down the wing and defend. I would stop playing Maldini there, he should stay in the middle as he doesn't have the pace to keep up with the faster wingers.
As for Pizzaro, he's been getting good reviews this season, he's influenced Udinese as much as Pirlo influences us. Maybe not in exactly the same way, but with enough similarities. Like you said K77SH C, you can't replace Pirlo, but we shouldn't be looking to anyway. We're looking to expand our options and Pizzaro would surely do this. As said before Pizzaro can play in Seedorf's role too so he would play alot more than just a handful of games.
I know it's scary to have new players in the team as you never know how they'll fit in, but it has to happen sooner or later and i think we have to have confidence and trust in any new guys to keep Milan's game right at the top.
As for Pizzaro, he's been getting good reviews this season, he's influenced Udinese as much as Pirlo influences us. Maybe not in exactly the same way, but with enough similarities. Like you said K77SH C, you can't replace Pirlo, but we shouldn't be looking to anyway. We're looking to expand our options and Pizzaro would surely do this. As said before Pizzaro can play in Seedorf's role too so he would play alot more than just a handful of games.
not had a chance to see Pizzaro cloesly so I dont know. I wasnt thinking he get much playing time, but if hes good ebough to break into the team then why not. Sounds good.
IMO Pizarro is a right choice! I`ll be happy to see him in Milan!
IMO Pizarro is a right choice! I`ll be happy to see him in Milan!
albertini_forever
09-05-2005, 09:47
Pirlo ... don't let him go away ...
he's our inspiration man !!!
ACMILAN1983
09-05-2005, 12:08
Pirlo ... don't let him go away ...
he's our inspiration man !!!
who said to let Pirlo go?
who said to let Pirlo go?
But is Pirlo agree to leave Milan? :dstup:
ACMILAN1983
11-05-2005, 17:39
what? no
What the?....Pirlo hasn't been rumoured to leave Milan, nor has anyone on the forum suggested he would leave.
Actually, why are we even discussing it, I mean, he's argubly the last player to leave Milan at the moment.
Could someone please give a description of Jankalovski. I havent had much of a chance to see him and when I have hes either not really involved in the game or he scores an own goal against Milan :rone: Is he a left back that goes forward alot, whats his crossing like, dribbling, passing, ball control. Iv always heard how good he is, but could someone give anything more please. Im struggling to get excited about a future player I know little about :wallbang:
Could someone please give a description of Jankalovski. I havent had much of a chance to see him and when I have hes either not really involved in the game or he scores an own goal against Milan :rone: Is he a left back that goes forward alot, whats his crossing like, dribbling, passing, ball control. Iv always heard how good he is, but could someone give anything more please. Im struggling to get excited about a future player I know little about :wallbang:
Yes I saw him not many times, but I saw! He was good he even played aginst Armenia and played very good(almost scored)! Exept only goal vs Milan he was good in the field! :clap:
albertini_forever
12-05-2005, 11:51
Jankulovski good .................
Nasty knock for Jankulovski :2whis: :frustrat: :1ang:
Udinese Calcio midfielder Marek Jankulovski will be sidelined for around three months, missing Udinese's last three Serie A games as they bid to claim Italy's fourth and final UEFA Champions League qualifying place. Jankulovski fractured his left ankle during the Italian Cup semi-final first leg draw at AS Roma yesterday.
Important match
The 28-year-old Czech international has played 32 games this season, scoring four goals, for an Udinese side who are currently level on points with UC Sampdoria in fourth position. The two clubs go head-to-head on Sunday at the Friuli stadium.
Czech games
The left-sided Jankulovski, who joined Udinese from SSC Napoli in 2002, will also sit out the Czech Republic's FIFA World Cup Group 1 qualifiers against Andorra and F.Y.R. Macedonia on 4 and 8 June respectively. The Czechs sit second in Group 1, one point behind the Netherlands.
uefa.com
:v46:
F***********K !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i hope the board in someway reads what i say and agree to do so.... we gave robben a treatment and i think by giving jankulovski his own it would almost surely bring him over here immedietly, many of the players that are here have been amazed by milanello and the milan lab and by treating him he can almost get to know the players better
sehnsucht79
13-05-2005, 02:06
He Will Miss The Sampdoria Game ???
)(*#)&*($)_(@_)$u!!!!!!!!
What im gonna say ih HIGHLY unlikely but it would be like a dream come truth....if we somehow dont sigh janku ( he is great player, and can do well in red-black ), and we want world class LB and LM we can take a look at Rothen.
Rothen is probably the best person in that position and in surprised that no one mentioned him so far. Milan sre not up for him, i just wanna know what do u think??? For me he is a " beast ", can run all day, cross, attack, defend...
Better than zambrotta.
but rothen is no LB ... he a LW .. hes good but hes been out of the picture since he left for PSG, jankulovski is amazing, and he has serieA experience
thanks for your opinions on Jankolovski.
Rothen is good and I really liked him at Monaco, that season I did watch him and think he coukd really fit into the Milan system, but he destroyed his career by joining PSV :hammer:
sehnsucht79
14-05-2005, 06:54
Yes I only saw Rothen in Monaco sadly
But Janks IMO would still be the better deal - proven, less risk, probably cheaper (?)
Gio-mania
14-05-2005, 07:06
i hear fiore is on sale...............
he is a good player,
although not very successfull in valencia;
and he does have the serie a experience. but juve and inter are in pole position right now......
I think we should show faith in Jankulovski and buy him even though he's injured for two reasons (1) Because of his injury, in theory he should be cheaper :D (2) The trust we would show by buying him now with his injury would surely mean that when he's recovered he will want to repay the faith we had in him by performing out of his skin.
sehnsucht79
14-05-2005, 07:34
Fiore, god, no.
fiore is amazing, i think valencia should keep him and build a team around him, hes one of those players that need 2 years to show their worth and when he does he absolutly magnificent... i mean, out of all people sally, u should know best!
i agree with dev... and let the milan lab help
sehnsucht79
14-05-2005, 09:43
Och
He is good (Fiore) but if milan (or juventus for that matter) were to buy someone in the summer I just think we ought to do better than that.
Gio-mania
14-05-2005, 10:00
i hear dhorasoo and brocchi might leave and be sold to betis and sampdoria
sehnsucht79
14-05-2005, 10:05
well. if thats the case im guessing most milanistas would say, amen.
Gio-mania
14-05-2005, 10:15
we could get some money from that......... unless their contacts expire this summer
Peachtot
14-05-2005, 10:37
MAN ENOUGH!!! ... stop talking about him!!! .. dave please dont reply.. its really irritating.. look at the title of the thread and tell me where is ronaldinho mentioned there?
HAHAHA :grinser: :grinser:
:pp20: :pp20:
thats much better peachtot! :D ... keep it that way ;)
as for the dhorasso and brocchi thing, i think it would be really stupid if we sell dhorasso, we need a player like him, and hes done well everytime he came on
yeah, dhorasso should stay in. Brocchi and simic can go. We can get some money for them. Wel, at least for dario.
I think janku already signed a pre-deal with us. He said that its 99% done. He'll be good, just...the injury is really bad ( broken ankle ), he woldnt be back for 3 months, at least 1 more to get into shape. Maybe milan lab can help.
how did Cassetti look against us today ?
He did well, but we where on holiday today!!
if were getting a RB i would only want oddo.. he suits us and is similar to cafu in a way... plus his crosses are excellent and with gila hopefully here we can see more goals
arpanmilan
16-05-2005, 06:23
milan can also buy the young shuan wright philips.he's a great player on the right.the perfect back up for gattuso
Nah hes got too much to prove and besides hes no replacement for Gatusso
arpanmilan where do u get these ideas from? :)
Nah hes got too much to prove and besides hes no replacement for Gatusso
to replae gattuso.... we need to buy of of england RUGBY team or NFL, football league from the US .....
simply irreplacable..........
i think ambro has done well to deputise rhino
Yes Rothen was super in Monaco, but I don`t see him in PSG! I already foget about him! Janku+Oddo+ Gilla=everything is ok!
i think ambro has done well to deputise rhino
Yes you are right MK! :dumpf:
Yes you are right MK! :dumpf:
i like it how you always agree with everyone :u56:
after gilardino's JOKe performance against juve yesterday, i say he can join whatever team he wants as long as it is not milan. he can score against the small teams but when it matters, he lies down like a dog and cries. after all the tough talk, he did nothing against juve.
it was only one match.... you can not jugde him from only one match... you could made a wrong attitude, my friend ;)... though...
arpanmilan
16-05-2005, 08:48
arpanmilan where do u get these ideas from? :)
i like s.w.philips very much.i was thinking that who can replace gattuso in the right midfield when hes benched & that is why i thought of s.w.philips. i agree that thrs no replacement 4 gattuso but when hes not thr ,thr should be some1 in the right wing having a good pace. i dont feel ambro is a attacking midfield player.
i like s.w.philips very much.i was thinking that who can replace gattuso in the right midfield when hes benched & that is why i thought of s.w.philips. i agree that thrs no replacement 4 gattuso but when hes not thr ,thr should be some1 in the right wing having a good pace. i dont feel ambro is a attacking midfield player.
neither is gattuso
... nadir, where were u when gila scored against us in the tardini, or against us last year in the san siro, or what about his goals vs inter and roma .. and if im not mistaken over the last 2 years he scored vs juve ... oh and where were u when he scored for italy?
Well at least Gilardino can score against the "smaller" teams ..... not many of our strikers seem to do that at times.
no thats not the problem... the problem is that he can score vs both big teams and small teams
Gio-mania
17-05-2005, 12:03
i hear since the price on gila is raising so much we might get vucinic instead......
oh yea, veron - he's been linked
we don't need Veron, we'd be better off trying to get Juninho of Lyon. His range of passing is as good as Pirlo's, plus he can give us good deliveries with corners and free-kicks ... something that has been lacking at times.
Also from Lyon is Reveillere, their right-back. He's like a French version of Cafu ! He has pace, skill to beat people, can cross the ball, is always getting forward. His defensive side is also good, it can be improved but that's not a problem with all the experienced players here that can help him. Definately one to keep an eye on.
I haven't seen much of him (only CL) but I tend to agree with you Jim, Reveillere is quality :p286:
ACMILAN1983
17-05-2005, 21:21
Reveillere is a very good player actually, though I need to see more of him before I can make a firm judgement.
sehnsucht79
18-05-2005, 01:29
we don't need Veron, we'd be better off trying to get Juninho of Lyon. His range of passing is as good as Pirlo's, plus he can give us good deliveries with corners and free-kicks ... something that has been lacking at times.
Ah, I sincerely hope not. Juninho's one of my favs in Lyon aside from Nilmar and it'd tear my heart out if he wears Red & Black
But hes a massive talent, oh he is
we don't need Veron, we'd be better off trying to get Juninho of Lyon. His range of passing is as good as Pirlo's, plus he can give us good deliveries with corners and free-kicks ... something that has been lacking at times.
Also from Lyon is Reveillere, their right-back. He's like a French version of Cafu ! He has pace, skill to beat people, can cross the ball, is always getting forward. His defensive side is also good, it can be improved but that's not a problem with all the experienced players here that can help him. Definately one to keep an eye on.
havent seen him recently but i know he was a flop at valencia
Gio-mania
18-05-2005, 12:13
DROGBA!!!!!!!
there are roumers that ambramovic wants to trade gallas + crespo + 24mil for eto´o........... substituting drogba, who wants to leave............
Reveillere was at Valencia ? I didn't know that. I have to be honest and say i've only seen him this season, about 4 times in the CL and about 6 times in the French League. Each time he's been pretty solid. In the 5-1 win over Bordeaux he was very adventurous going forward, he was getting into a striker's position for a few attempts ! Plus he did a couple of really great runs to beat 2/3 players at a time. But still, i guess all this isn't necessary if the Oddo reports are true.
Juninho (Lyon ... sorry Sally :D ) would be a great addition, a cheaper and more versatile option to Totti or a player like Totti. Although how many Lyon players leave this summer will be interesting to see. Diarra is another, he's the Senegalese version of Gattuso, completely destructive, but can play a bit.
DROGBA!!!!!!!
there are roumers that ambramovic wants to trade gallas + crespo + 24mil for eto´o........... substituting drogba, who wants to leave............
Drogba is a dreadfully inefficient striker (and the scenario does not seem all to likely to happen anyway)
PS. Does anybody have the odds of us signing "jankulovski, casetti, gilardino and pizzaro" as the thread title suggests? :rolleyes: A nomination for "premature thread of the year" is up for grabs ;)
would be very happy and excited if our transfer market ends with:
Gila, Jankulovski, pizarro and Oddo...(in)
Simic, Dhorasso, Pancaro, tomasson (out)
though i hate to have dhorasoo out... but lets face it... pirlo and pizarro.... not one game would be played by vikash...
..
dhorasso would play in gattusos or seedorfs role... he never subed pirlo its ambro who did
Reveillere was at Valencia ? I didn't know that. I have to be honest and say i've only seen him this season, about 4 times in the CL and about 6 times in the French League. Each time he's been pretty solid. In the 5-1 win over Bordeaux he was very adventurous going forward, he was getting into a striker's position for a few attempts ! Plus he did a couple of really great runs to beat 2/3 players at a time. But still, i guess all this isn't necessary if the Oddo reports are true.
Juninho (Lyon ... sorry Sally :D ) would be a great addition, a cheaper and more versatile option to Totti or a player like Totti. Although how many Lyon players leave this summer will be interesting to see. Diarra is another, he's the Senegalese version of Gattuso, completely destructive, but can play a bit.
IMO lyon is like something Parma! A football school! I advicing to get Juninho as soon as possible! He is one of my fav. players! :swars:
sehnsucht79
19-05-2005, 08:11
I dont think you should sell dhorasoo.
I agree Henrik, think Drogba is an overrated striker.
I dont think you should sell dhorasoo.
I agree Henrik, think Drogba is an overrated striker.
And I`m not Drogba isn`t overrated at all! He is a good striker we can sign him too! :5130: :hmmm:
Croatian sports papers say that milan will sell simic, brocchi, abiatti and tomasson. If chelsea keep crespo price too high milan wouldnt get him, we will bring back boriello.
And its expected that milan are ready to pay around 30mil for gilardino.... So, thats it. Janku, oddo, gila and one more CM.
IMO Borielo will bw a good player for Milan! I`d like to see him in Milan!!!!!
:5love:
I think i would prefer Kutzov (have i spelled that right ? :googly: ) to come back
I think Boriello is very similar to the type of striker we have already, both could become good players. Pozzi and Abate are also possibilities, but i think they are slightly younger still, so maybe it's better to keep them loaned out right now.
IMO Borielo will bw a good player for Milan! I`d like to see him in Milan!!!!!
:5love:
I think he would move to Parma if Gila moves the other way. :(
I think he would move to Parma if Gila moves the other way. :(
Yes it`s possible!
BTW is Borri played for Reggina for loan? :p157:
Is it just me who wishes we had Van Der Meyde? Also, I support a bid for Juninho :D
Van Der Meyde is really good player, and we could actually use some good AM or the right side so cafu doesnt have to do all the running ( since gattuso cant cross,shoot or pass....). But he will stay with inter. It irittates me that JDT says he will not go anywhere becouse he has contract with milan untill 2009, deportivo and lyon wanted him and he refused...well Tommy...hit the road, and dont you come back!
I think i would prefer Kutzov (have i spelled that right ? :googly: ) to come back
.
It`s Kutuzau but some also spell it Kutuzov ;)
Not a bad idea actually, he has done quite a good job at Sampdoria although i don`t think he played a lot,not sure anyway.But, how old is he?28/29?
Gio-mania
27-05-2005, 15:35
although it is very likely a false roumer i have read that berlusconi wants ronaldo from real madrid.......
and btw, inter are closer to signing him than us........
I heard on the news today that Real Madrid`s officials said that ronaldo is not for sale...so i think we should stop bragging about it.
P.S.
I`ve checked...kutuzau is 25
My friend said that there was an interview just hours ago with Allenatore of Udinese, Luciano Spaletti in Sky Sport 1, and he said "Jankulovski è già andato... al Milan come mi hanno detto"
It means, he had agreed to join Milan....
I hope it's true what he said....
sehnsucht79
29-05-2005, 11:41
Damn.
Think Kutuzov has had a good season with Sampdoria.
Dr Milano
29-05-2005, 11:50
My friend said that there was an interview just hours ago with Allenatore of Udinese, Luciano Spaletti in Sky Sport 1, and he said "Jankulovski è già andato... al Milan come mi hanno detto"
It means, he had agreed to join Milan....
I hope it's true what he said....
whos alexis ??//???? :1five:
sehnsucht79
29-05-2005, 12:15
Its true... its even reported in sports.it
Daaaaaaaaaammmmnnnn.
shevagol_7
29-05-2005, 12:20
My friend said that there was an interview just hours ago with Allenatore of Udinese, Luciano Spaletti in Sky Sport 1, and he said "Jankulovski è già andato... al Milan come mi hanno detto"
It means, he had agreed to join Milan....
I hope it's true what he said....
So Jankulovski is all but a Milan player?
Maradona (10)
29-05-2005, 17:29
Is Jankulovski out for the rest of the year? I think someone reported an injury not so long ago.
I heard we have a done deal with Lazio over Oddo. We have signed Jankulovski. Apparently Dalla Bona and Donati r going the other way. Simic said that he was staying. Galliani said that Tomasson and Dhorasoo r staying.We need 2 reshape our defence. Costacurta,Maldini and Pancaro have done enough. I suggest Bonera,Chivu and Bouma.
We shouldn't waste our money trying 2 keep Crespo.We should sell our strikers except 4 Sheva. Milan has 2 try and get Gilardino and Carraicalo of Brescia,since they r relegated. Kutuzov can come back on loan. He's had agreat season at Samp
zlatanov
29-05-2005, 19:15
Is Jankulovski out for the rest of the year? I think someone reported an injury not so long ago.
Last thing I read about this was saying that he would have been out for about 2 and a half months - meaning he should be back by beginning or mid of August
sehnsucht79
29-05-2005, 22:35
Caracciolo's useless.
Caracciolo's useless.
:grinser: No way. He is gooooood. If he is on field, rival's goalkeepr and defenders have to watch out. :mex:
ive hear the janku report and im thrillllllllllleeddddddd!!
are u sure about the oddo deal though??? that would make my day
Oddo is horrible at defending but great going forward.
milancampioni
30-05-2005, 13:59
MAREK JOINS MILAN
5/30/2005 6:58:00 PM
It is finally official, Marek Jankulovski is a Milan player. The club announced the news on Monday afternoon after signing the left-sided player on a contract until June 30, 2009. The Czech Republic international offers further options along the left flank as the 28 year old can play either at full-back or in midfield. Milan have moved quickly to reinforce the squad ahead of the new season, with Jankulovski arriving in the wake of Johann Vogel from PSV Eindhoven. Swiss international Vogel, who is also 28, can play either in the centre of midfield or along the right flank and certainly is familiar with the Rossoneri, having come up against Carlo Ancelotti’s side in the Champions League semi-final.
From Milan`s official site.... www.acmilan.com
OLAY, might actually get to see the guy in action now. Hope he turns out to be a really good signing. :p283:
sehnsucht79
30-05-2005, 20:43
Damn. damn damn damn damn damn.
On the positive side now theres no reason to sell Zambro :D
I stated before I dont think Milan will buy BOTH Janks and Gila, so does this mean Gila wont come to Milan? :bri:
zlatanov
30-05-2005, 21:05
It has been an awful week for you, sehnsucht. First the Inzaghi rumours of him getting married, now the Janku transfer to MIlan, and by the end of the week even stronger rumours of Gila ending up in Milan outfit. Just terrifying ...
sehnsucht79
30-05-2005, 21:41
Nah, Pippo wont marry Magda. Janks's news is sad but it wont cause any damage to Juve at all.. Plus nothing can ruin my month after celebrating the scudetto :) ;)
Not only did Milan say JDT will stay, but they also bought Janks - I really dont see Gila coming now.
zlatanov
30-05-2005, 22:34
Nah, Pippo wont marry Magda. Janks's news is sad but it wont cause any damage to Juve at all.. Plus nothing can ruin my month after celebrating the scudetto :) ;)
Not only did Milan say JDT will stay, but they also bought Janks - I really dont see Gila coming now.
Milan can say a lot of things - that doesn't mean that JDT will stay. i do like him a lot for it would be difficult to find someone better who is willing to be the 4th striker and not complain, but I won't believe Galliani's words until the transfer season is over.
But even if he stays, Milan will have a new forward, and that will be Gila
i wont mind it if we sell inzaghi and get gila...
Feel free to post all transfer related rumours and news in this sticky thread that replaces the 04/05 thread. :)
Let the silly season begin :510:
Well let me KICK - Start things then,
Crouch to Milan.
:v46:
That would be a great signing considering we only have one winger Serghinio whos a sub anyway :ilol:
That would be a great signing considering we only have one winger Serghinio whos a sub anyway :ilol:
I think Jankulowski qualifies as a winger, both in defence and in midfield
Oh yeah and theres Cafu, but hes not the best at crossing :55angel:
i think we need someone to replace cafu and bring Gilardino over to Milan
i think we need someone to replace cafu and bring Gilardino over to Milan
Forgive me if you've read me say this in other threads, but imo Jankulowski is Cafu's replacement. Milan plays an assymetric defence where Cafu move much higher up the field than the LB. With Jankulowski in the team, the opposite could be done, letting Janky venture forward while having a RB who stays back a bit more (for this purpose, Stam, Oddo and even Simic may be useful)
sorry,i didn't quiet get it..
i thought jankulovski can only play on the left falnk both as a full back and midfield
sorry,i didn't quiet get it..
i thought jankulovski can only play on the left falnk both as a full back and midfield
You are right, he does only play on the left. My point is that he can do the the left what Cafu can do on the right, but that it may be difficult to have the both on as wing backs at the same time. If you have a attacking RB you need a defensive LB and the other way around. That is what I meant with an assymetriucal defence.Cheers. :)
hitmannq8
04-06-2005, 07:57
Not really Henrik, I'd gladly like to see both Jankulovski and Cafu play as backs.. but IMO, Marek might be taking Seedorf's place more often than Maldini's.. and I do hope Vogel and Dhorasoo are given alot of chances to shine in midfield..
I hope Carlo thinks of what I shouted at him in Istanbul from the stands.. i told him to think of Robinho! but that was in half time :P actually, now that i think of it, im sure he forgot :P
I also am disappointed at all the Milan fans that want Stam on the bench.. Stam was so important for us this year, he was absolutely magnificent..i dont know why so many ppl here want him on the bench.. thats just terrible.. IMO he had a better season than Nesta..
With Jankulowski we can play either:
Maldini-Nesta-Stam-Cafu
or
Jankulowski-Maldini-Nesta-Stam
or
Jankulowski-Maldini-Nesta-Cafu (not my first choise)
Oh yeah and theres Cafu, but hes not the best at crossing :55angel:
yeah cafus not good at crossing... :haha:
henrik, i think its written jankulovski
Maradona (10)
04-06-2005, 18:39
I suggested Pablo Zabaleta as a replacement for Cafu....meaning buying him from San Lorenzo (Argentina) and loaning him to some Serie A team to gain experience. He is a prime candidate to be Argentina's captain within 3-4 years.
And if we are going after Dida's replacement, Mariano Barbosa is a good option. He has already been linked with Milan in the past (And with Inter as well). He is young, athletic, tall and a very good talent. Plays for Banfield, actually clashing with River in Libertadores quarterfinals (for those Brazilian fans that want to check him out).
zlatanov
04-06-2005, 18:53
It is good to be a patriot but you are surpassing all reasonable limits to it - I am still wayting for the first NON-argentinian player you would like to see come to Milan.
Zabaleta is a decent to good player and could develop into a very good player IF things go his way. As for Barbosa, he is a pretty average keeper, who although being young (22) doesn't seem to have what is necessary for him to become a truely great keeper - in the Argentinian league alone there are better keepres than him.
Maybe it won't hurt if you actually watch from time to time football from some of the big European leagues too. Oh, and don't forget that there is a limit to the number of non-EU players Milan can have and play, so this constant plugging of your compatriots cannot become reality for legal reasons too.
Can you all please get over this obsession in signing players then loaning them out. What's the point when the chances are someone younger and better will come along the following season? There is plenty of talent READY for the first team out there.
Maradona (10)
04-06-2005, 22:40
It is good to be a patriot but you are surpassing all reasonable limits to it - I am still wayting for the first NON-argentinian player you would like to see come to Milan.
Zabaleta is a decent to good player and could develop into a very good player IF things go his way. As for Barbosa, he is a pretty average keeper, who although being young (22) doesn't seem to have what is necessary for him to become a truely great keeper - in the Argentinian league alone there are better keepres than him.
Maybe it won't hurt if you actually watch from time to time football from some of the big European leagues too. Oh, and don't forget that there is a limit to the number of non-EU players Milan can have and play, so this constant plugging of your compatriots cannot become reality for legal reasons too.
How many times have you attended San Lorenzo or Banfield matches? I guess zero. And Im sure you havent watched them a lot on TV as well, so I take your opinion with more than a grain of salt.
And I watch some European leagues from time to time but Id rather have South American talent than European talent. And I enjoy watching games from this side of the Atlantic.
Maybe we should buy Adu, the biggest lie in the history of this sport.
zlatanov
04-06-2005, 23:36
well, I guess we agree for one thing - Adu :), and just for the record - I may live in the USA but I am Bulgarian so the Adu sarcasm was a bit out of line :sagrin: .
In fact I watch quite often Argentinian and Brazilian football on Fox Sports World, usually two games of each every week - which could hardly be called "from time to time" - so chances are I have a much better idea about SA football than you have of European.
And no, I have never been live at a Banfield or San Lorenzo game but I have watched them many, many times on TV, especially San Lorenzo, Estudiantes, River, Boca, Velez. Banfield, I have watched several times too but it was more than enough to say that Barbosa is not even in top 3 of the keepers in the Argentinian league so I really don't see how useful he could be for Milan, unless he improves TREMENDOUSLY - sort of like Dida did, but you know miracles do happen, the problem is they just don't happen that often.
What I am questioning, however, is your objectivity on players' abilities, for you don't strike me as someone who takes off his white-and-blue striped eyeglasses all that often.
I have read that Abrahmovich is chasing Shevchenko again and has met with him. Apparently he offered him 15 million euros a season ! It's on a couple of sites, sport.es being one of them. I might have read it wrong too, as i don't read/speak Spanish. But go and check it out. I have in my mind a gut wrenching scenario of Shevchenko leaving :yuck: :(
Maradona (10)
05-06-2005, 13:06
well, I guess we agree for one thing - Adu :), and just for the record - I may live in the USA but I am Bulgarian so the Adu sarcasm was a bit out of line :sagrin: .
In fact I watch quite often Argentinian and Brazilian football on Fox Sports World, usually two games of each every week - which could hardly be called "from time to time" - so chances are I have a much better idea about SA football than you have of European.
And no, I have never been live at a Banfield or San Lorenzo game but I have watched them many, many times on TV, especially San Lorenzo, Estudiantes, River, Boca, Velez. Banfield, I have watched several times too but it was more than enough to say that Barbosa is not even in top 3 of the keepers in the Argentinian league so I really don't see how useful he could be for Milan, unless he improves TREMENDOUSLY - sort of like Dida did, but you know miracles do happen, the problem is they just don't happen that often.
What I am questioning, however, is your objectivity on players' abilities, for you don't strike me as someone who takes off his white-and-blue striped eyeglasses all that often.
Sorry, but the games you get are always Boca and River, If im not mistaken. Two games, Boca and River against two other teams. San Lorenzo always plays either friday or saturday, so I dont think youy watch any games.
And for the record, I get around 4 Spanish league games per week, Copa del Rey, 4 from Italy, Copa Italia, 4 from English premiership (saturday, sunday and monday), 1 or 2 from France, 1 from Germany, almost every game from the Uefa Champions league, and many UEFA games.
So while you can watch some games from here, I can watch more than 20 European games per week.
OK. :p017:
About Barbosa: looks like he is joining Villareal for next UCL. They are offering 2M Euros.
Sorry, but the games you get are always Boca and River, If im not mistaken. Two games, Boca and River against two other teams. San Lorenzo always plays either friday or saturday, so I dont think youy watch any games.
And for the record, I get around 4 Spanish league games per week, Copa del Rey, 4 from Italy, Copa Italia, 4 from English premiership (saturday, sunday and monday), 1 or 2 from France, 1 from Germany, almost every game from the Uefa Champions league, and many UEFA games.
So while you can watch some games from here, I can watch more than 20 European games per week.
OK. :p017:
About Barbosa: looks like he is joining Villareal for next UCL. They are offering 2M Euros.
arrongance ... tisk tisk :rollani:
Maradona (10)
05-06-2005, 15:53
arrongance ... tisk tisk :rollani:
Just answering "so chances are I have a much better idea about SA football than you have of European".
zlatanov
05-06-2005, 17:55
Sorry, but the games you get are always Boca and River, If im not mistaken. Two games, Boca and River against two other teams. San Lorenzo always plays either friday or saturday, so I dont think youy watch any games.
And for the record, I get around 4 Spanish league games per week, Copa del Rey, 4 from Italy, Copa Italia, 4 from English premiership (saturday, sunday and monday), 1 or 2 from France, 1 from Germany, almost every game from the Uefa Champions league, and many UEFA games.
So while you can watch some games from here, I can watch more than 20 European games per week.
OK. :p017:
About Barbosa: looks like he is joining Villareal for next UCL. They are offering 2M Euros.
On Fox one can watch a number of dif teams from Argentina/Brazil - true, it would be mostly Boca, River/Sao Paolo, Corinthians, Cruzeiro but these are the best teams, apart from one-season wonders like Estudiantes/NOB, so watching them gives you the best idea at what level the creme-della-creme of Argentinian/Brazil football is. As for not being able to watch San Lorenzo because they play on Friday/Saturday, I am sure you have heard of this techy wonder called "replay" so you most probably will be able to figure out the rest of the story ... unless of course you start claiming that watching a game on replay changes the technical qualities of the players or whatever.
As for the European games, provided that what you said above is actually true and it is not there just to help you come up with support to your argument, I would say you could watch pretty much the same games I DO watch, apart from the Portuguese League and maybe a bit more from Bundesliga 1.
However, here is the problem - one can live next to a library, and still be illiterate. And your constant plugging of any other players but Argentinians, and from time to time a Columbian here and there, tells me that you may be able to watch a lot of games from Europe but you DON'T actually watch them but you just let them be part of the schedule.
See, if you had a broader, and not such a limited view on football, this would actually become prominent from your comments i.e. you would try to see football as an international phenomenon and not just as a simple game made for Argentinians.
And I am sure, based on your comments, I am not the only one here who does NOT see this in you.
As for Barbosa going to Villareal, I couldn't find a better prove for what I said about him in my previous posts. :gonova: :rollani:
Kompany of Anderlecht
or chivu of roma
de rossi has also brought attention to real madrid, so why not buy em he would play great with pirlo
maybe gila
shoryuken
06-06-2005, 14:36
I think Tomasson more likely to depart than Inzaghi, but you never know I guess.
We'll see what happens :)
Arildonardo
06-06-2005, 15:49
I don't know if you saw the match between Norway and Italy on saturday, but this relatively small midfielder (173 cm) is awesome. He totally outshone Andrea Pirlo and Guiseppe De Rossi in central midfield and had 25 ball-winnings in that match, which is great. Even Pirlo said afterwards that he was a good player.
Kristofer Haestad is only 21 years old, and here in Norway he is considered as our Gennaro Gattuso, a truly great fighter and ball-winner. He runs more than any other footballer I have ever seen on a football pitch or at any level. He was our best U-21 player for 2 years and then he got promoted to the senior national team where he has been Norway's best player in both his matches so far (against Costa Rica and Italy).
I have followed him in the past years because he plays for my home-town club, IK Start. IK Start played in the "Serie B" in Norway last year and were promoted to the highest level this season, and after 1/3 of the season they are top-of-the-table mainly thanks to Kristofer Haestad's rise towards the stars!
Milan material? Maybe not just yet, but definitely one to watch or buy now and loan out... Only downside is that he is a fan of Manchester United, and he jokingly said in an interview that he would play for them for free.
Check links for picture:
http://www.vg.no/pub/vgart.hbs?artid=279821
http://www.vg.no/pub/vgart.hbs?artid=279873
devoted_dm
06-06-2005, 16:20
Well he's definitely aggressive, very similar to Gattuso in his style of play. Could be a useful player in a couple of years, but I am not sure if he is Milan material. He did have Pirlo in his pocket for the entire match though...
[QUOTE]Nah, Pippo wont marry Magda. Janks's news is sad but it wont cause any damage to Juve at all.. Plus nothing can ruin my month after celebrating the scudetto
Not only did Milan say JDT will stay, but they also bought Janks - I really dont see Gila coming now.
Well,sehnsucht79.
Firstly,let's be honest Juve "didn't" win the scudetto.Milan lost it.
and we wouldn't have if we hadn't reach the CL final.(in which your "great" team couldn't reach even the semis).(4 CL > 11 SCD imo)
Secondly,i think you forget that juve tried hard last year to get Jank so dont be sure
about the damage that he can cause to your team.
Lastly i can see why "u dont see" Gila coming to us.Maybe because u also tried hard to
get him too so u really know his value,and what a great danger he might be for your "great" team.
Or maybe u know that the 28th scudetto might mean nothing if u dont get any for the next five years.
KAKA OR DLP/NEDVED
GILA-SHEVA IBO-TREZ
I think the answer is obvious,and that's a reason "u don't see" Gila coming...:finger:
zlatanov
06-06-2005, 18:27
I am sure this guy with the proper supervision can develope into a devastating midfielder in a couple of years. I personally wouldn't mind having even now at Milan for I am pretty sure he would give Genarro a run for his money. Another option would be to loan him out to a smaller Serie A team.
I am sure if Milan want him, Man U would be left in the dust ... i.e. at their current place.
they say chelsea wants kaka for about 80million€
i don't think the deal will go though, we are nothin without kaka!
they say chelsea wants kaka for about 80million€
i don't think the deal will go though, we are nothin without kaka!
i would decline it but ur last statement is so wrong... kaka has been horrible at the begining of the season up until 3/4 of it passed and during that time we were on a role...
weve won alot before he came... if he wants to leave we can easily find a replacement given the money... so no were not nothing without him
Maradona (10)
07-06-2005, 23:12
Updating my previous rumour: Barbosa officially joined Villareal. Too bad, I wanted him in Milan.
but normally kaka went to chelsea, but he needed a work pormit so he needed to be loaned out or something so he had enouhg caps.
then came milan and signed em. so chelsea surely has interest in em
As for the future, we need to think reality. Maldini and Cafu really don't have many years in front of them. And I would prefer Jankulovski to play on the left side in the midfield, rather then as a defender. So, who should come in for the legendary Maldini and the impressive Cafú? Two players I'm thinking of are: Heinze from Man.Utd on the left, and Salgado from Real Madrid. But if they will ever come to Milan, that is another question...
Forza Milan, and let's hope Milan have learnt from their mistakes this season...
From Channel4:
I’m leaving Milan, says Brocchi
Wednesday 8 June, 2005
Cristian Brocchi is ready to leave Milan after growing increasingly tired of sitting on the bench.
"This is the right time to say goodbye with a handshake," the midfielder told the Radio Italia Network.
"It is hard to play well in a game and then be told that you will not feature in the next match. You can live with it for a while but then it becomes tough."
Milan have admitted that they will sell all those players who want to leave, even if Brocchi doesn’t know where his future lies.
"Where will I go? I want to join a club in which I will be considered as an important player," he added. "I don’t care where."
The 29-year-old joined the Rossoneri from city rivals Inter in the summer of 2001 but has never been a first team regular.
Brocchi actually started his career at Milan before enjoying spells at Pro Sesto, Lumezzane and Verona.
Brocchi is set to be joined through the exit by goalkeeper Christian Abbiati, who has had enough of being Nelson Dida’s No 2
I have a question about something I might have seen. Are Chelsea allowing us another loan season of Crespo's services????? If that is so, what is the status of our transfer wish-list. If it is a loan, then I really think it is a good deal cause I honestly think after one more season he's done. Then we can dump him back to Chelsea. ANyone wanna help me on this one????
zlatanov
08-06-2005, 08:22
I have a question about something I might have seen. Are Chelsea allowing us another loan season of Crespo's services????? If that is so, what is the status of our transfer wish-list. If it is a loan, then I really think it is a good deal cause I honestly think after one more season he's done. Then we can dump him back to Chelsea. ANyone wanna help me on this one????
Yep, this is true, at least according to Crespo's agent, who claims that everything has been decided already at today's meeting between Kenyon and Galliani. According to Kenyon, there are still some details to be decided for next week's meeting between Milan and Chelsea. But all in all, the deal seems to be a great one for us - another year-long loan of Crespo to Milan with us paying his full salary. IMO, this is much better than paying a lump sum of 10+ mil euro for a player who is almost 30 yo.
As Crespo's agent put it - "Milan have made yet another great deal."
One other thing that has emerged from the meeting - Kaladze is staying with Milan, at least for now - it's a long summer, you know.
Sources: www.goal.com, www.tgcom.it/sport
Gio-mania
08-06-2005, 08:22
Forgive me if you've read me say this in other threads, but imo Jankulowski is Cafu's replacement. Milan plays an assymetric defence where Cafu move much higher up the field than the LB. With Jankulowski in the team, the opposite could be done, letting Janky venture forward while having a RB who stays back a bit more (for this purpose, Stam, Oddo and even Simic may be useful)
finally someone thinks it like me!!!!
we have three world class CB's......either we attack on the left defence or right..............
! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
Yep, this is true, at least according to Crespo's agent, who claims that everything has been decided already at today's meeting between Kenyon and Galliani. According to Kenyon, there are still some details to be decided for next week's meeting between Milan and Chelsea. But all in all, the deal seems to be a great one for us - another year-long loan of Crespo to Milan with us paying his full salary. IMO, this is much better than paying a lump sum of 10+ mil euro for a player who is almost 30 yo.
As Crespo's agent put it - "Milan have made yet another great deal."
One other thing that has emerged from the meeting - Kaladze is staying with Milan, at least for now - it's a long summer, you know.
Sources: www.goal.com, www.tgcom.it/sport
Thanks for the source. I like the professionalism!
Viana Flattered By Milan Rumours
4/8/2005 12:08:00 PM
Sporting Lisbon midfielder Hugo Viana says he wants to make his loan move from Newcastle permanent, but is flattered by rumours linking him with Milan.
"Newcastle and Sporting are meeting again this week to discuss my future,” Viana told The Journal.
"I hope to play in Lisbon for the next few years but I am a professional and I will play anywhere. If Sporting are happy to pay Newcastle what they want, that is the perfect scenario.
"I have heard of the interest from Milan. When Milan and Inter are linked with any player, it is very flattering and it’s no different for me. Sporting are a huge club but those two are bigger, with worldwide reputations. It is going to be an interesting summer for me."
the viana news is pretty old
Viana Flattered By Milan Rumours
4/8/2005 12:08:00 PM
Sporting Lisbon midfielder Hugo Viana says he wants to make his loan move from Newcastle permanent, but is flattered by rumours linking him with Milan.
"Newcastle and Sporting are meeting again this week to discuss my future,” Viana told The Journal.
"I hope to play in Lisbon for the next few years but I am a professional and I will play anywhere. If Sporting are happy to pay Newcastle what they want, that is the perfect scenario.
"I have heard of the interest from Milan. When Milan and Inter are linked with any player, it is very flattering and it’s no different for me. Sporting are a huge club but those two are bigger, with worldwide reputations. It is going to be an interesting summer for me."
Good and interesting news! :rone:
i wont mind it if we sell inzaghi and get gila...
Me 2! :3band:
slicknick
09-06-2005, 08:53
Can someone give me a little feedback about Kompany? I have no idea who he is...
Gio-mania
09-06-2005, 09:09
Well,sehnsucht79.
Firstly,let's be honest Juve "didn't" win the scudetto.Milan lost it.
and we wouldn't have if we hadn't reach the CL final.(in which your "great" team couldn't reach even the semis).(4 CL > 11 SCD imo)
Secondly,i think you forget that juve tried hard last year to get Jank so dont be sure
about the damage that he can cause to your team.
Lastly i can see why "u dont see" Gila coming to us.Maybe because u also tried hard to
get him too so u really know his value,and what a great danger he might be for your "great" team.
Or maybe u know that the 28th scudetto might mean nothing if u dont get any for the next five years.
KAKA OR DLP/NEDVED
GILA-SHEVA IBO-TREZ
I think the answer is obvious,and that's a reason "u don't see" Gila coming...:finger:
haha, so true
zlatanov
09-06-2005, 09:52
Can someone give me a little feedback about Kompany? I have no idea who he is...
He is 19 yo and one of the most promissing young defenders out there. Seems to have everything to become a great player in the next 4-5 years - speed, height, ball control, positioning. The "problem" with him is that he is so young - just 19-years-old - and still has a lot to see and experience until one could say he is ready for Milan's first 11. Right now he is an excellent player but for his age only and still seems prone to basic mistakes, which however are more than normal for his tender age. Chances are that in 4-5 years he will be one of the best defenders out there but this is still in the future and is more or less an uncertainty - he could also easily end up being one of those great talents, who naver make it to the next level.
The other problem with him is that, while still years away from becoming a true Milan-quality defender, if we wait for too long, we could very easily miss out on him because all of Europe's best are after him right now.
dossantos22
10-06-2005, 08:52
Do you know something about Porto Diego?
For me he is the best AMC after KAKA
I hope Kaladze and Simic leave. Hopefully we get Gilardino quick. It would also be wise to purchase Bonera. He's a good replacement for Stam. I hear we're after Oddo as well. Does anyone know whether Costacurta is leaving? He's really done enough.
Pirlo linked with Madrid
Friday 10 June, 2005
Milan have reportedly turned down a bid from Spanish giants Real Madrid for Andrea Pirlo.
The Gazzetta dello Sport claims that Madrid have offered Spanish international midfielder Guti as well as a hefty fee for the Rossoneri’s influential playmaker. But Milan have rejected the offer as Pirlo is an integral part of Carlo Ancelotti’s plans next season.
However, Guti could still arrive at Milan in a straight money deal, but any negotiations will have to wait until the player returns from his holiday.
The San Siro outfit have also been linked with Lazio defender Massimo Oddo. It is rumoured that the player has received an offer of a four-year contract from Milan and that officials from the two clubs will be meeting later in the week to negotiate the transfer itself. Despite the increasing rumours in the Italian Press, neither club have commented.A rumour of a YEAR :dielaugh:
The Guti thing also seems stupid, he would be squad player and get as much chances as he gets at real madrid, he would be a good addition to the squad as we would have more variety.
:55angel:
yeah, lukely they won't let pirlo go, he is 1 out of 2 playmakers milan has:
other 1 is kaka
zlatanov
10-06-2005, 12:07
Juve seem to be keen on Daniel Alves from Sevilla - he is one of the few players who could take in Cafu's role.
www.calciomercato.com
Quote:
Pirlo linked with Madrid
Friday 10 June, 2005
Milan have reportedly turned down a bid from Spanish giants Real Madrid for Andrea Pirlo.
The Gazzetta dello Sport claims that Madrid have offered Spanish international midfielder Guti as well as a hefty fee for the Rossoneri’s influential playmaker. But Milan have rejected the offer as Pirlo is an integral part of Carlo Ancelotti’s plans next season.
However, Guti could still arrive at Milan in a straight money deal, but any negotiations will have to wait until the player returns from his holiday.
The San Siro outfit have also been linked with Lazio defender Massimo Oddo. It is rumoured that the player has received an offer of a four-year contract from Milan and that officials from the two clubs will be meeting later in the week to negotiate the transfer itself. Despite the increasing rumours in the Italian Press, neither club have commented.
A rumour of a YEAR
A rumour of a YEAR :dielaugh:
Milan Reject Pirlo-Guti Swap?
6/10/2005 12:08:00 PM
According to Italian daily La Gazzetta dello Sport, Milan have rejected an offer of Guti-plus-cash for Andrea Pirlo.
Spanish international Guti is keen to get away from Real Madrid, and although Milan rejected this offer -they are loath to part with Pirlo- they may still be interested in taking the player to the San Siro.
At present Guti is on holiday in Ibiza, but when he returns it is expected that he will sit down with his agent to discuss his future.
Goal.com
Milan Reject Pirlo-Guti Swap?
6/10/2005 12:08:00 PM
According to Italian daily La Gazzetta dello Sport, Milan have rejected an offer of Guti-plus-cash for Andrea Pirlo.
Spanish international Guti is keen to get away from Real Madrid, and although Milan rejected this offer -they are loath to part with Pirlo- they may still be interested in taking the player to the San Siro.
At present Guti is on holiday in Ibiza, but when he returns it is expected that he will sit down with his agent to discuss his future.
Goal.comthis is a appropritate end of such kind of story :stuckup:
Forza Milan e Andrea :rone:
Maradona (10)
10-06-2005, 13:54
Guti? Ouch.
:5milan:
Pizarro wants Udinese exit Thursday 9 June, 2005
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Udinese are set to lose another piece of their jigsaw after David Pizarro put in a transfer request.
The club, who will take part in next season’s Champions’ League, have already seen boss Luciano Spalletti resign and the midfielder also wants an exit.
"Pizarro has told the club that he wants to be sold," agent Fernando Hidalgo told Radio Radio. "He has no preferable destination, he just wants to play for a big club."
The classy playmaker has been linked with the likes of Inter, Juventus and Milan for some time but no move has happened.
Udinese are only likely to release the Chilean international if they receive a big enough offer.
"They value him between £8m and £10m," added Hidalgo. "Hopefully Udinese won’t decline a concrete offer, especially as Pizarro turned down a move last summer in order to stay."
However, it is understood that no club have made the Stadio Friuli outfit a serious offer for the 25-year-old so far.
Roma could be about to change that though, especially if Spalletti is appointed as their new boss this summer.
Football Italia (http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jun9h.html)Maybe we can offer him out vacancy :D
Billy_Montreal
10-06-2005, 15:45
Sorry folks but it has been some time since I did my MOD duties as it shoudl be...since I'm in a CLEANING mood I merged this thread with the RUMORS/TRANSFERS thread...
its becoming a real MESS in this transfers forum...felt we needed some order.
thanks
Billy
dossantos22
11-06-2005, 08:21
Tell mi something.Where iz Rafael Van Der Vaarl goes?
I heard something about HAMBURG but I don't belive that is a good for him.
Why Kompany stays at Anderleht? He is the best young dc in the world now>
Last night i saw match between Holland under 20 and Japan
for holland plays one boy from arsenal
he is 18 and he is so fast
he is right/left winger
Listen do you know who is Fabio PAIM?
please tell mi something about him and about John Obi Mikel who signs for Man utd
Stezagud
11-06-2005, 08:26
Last night i saw match between Holland under 20 and Japan
for holland plays one boy from arsenal
he is 18 and he is so fast
Owusu-Abeyi is his name i think, he played for them in the league cup a few times but hasnt broken into their first team yet. You're right though, he's very quick and direct and has a future in the game undoubtably.
please tell mi something about him and about John Obi Mikel who signs for Man utd
he's signed for Utd but Chelsea still want him too, its a real messy situation. He must be talented to cause all this fuss and i had heard he's beencompared to Cantona but i've never actually seen him play....
I think VdVaart has gone to Hamburg too, he needed to leave Ajax to progress...
Why Kompany stays at Anderleht? He is the best young dc in the world now
he only want's to play for a big team so he waits untill a big team with enough money want's him.
but those big clubs, Milan for one belive that he is still to young to buy him besides kompany realises he can still learn a lot if he plays every game something he is sure of with anderlecht
Speculation: Milan
The Story so far.............
In
Ronaldo (Real Madrid, £41.3m), Guti (Real Madrid, £?), Hernan Crespo (Chelsea, £?), Massimo Oddo (Lazio, £?), Walter Samuel (Real Madrid, £?), Christian Vieri (Inter Milan, £?)
Out
Kakha Kaladze (Chelsea, £4m), Kaka (Chelsea, £?), Christian Abbiati (AS Roma, £?), Vikash Dhorasoo (Deportivo la Coruna, Paris-SG, Loan), Andrea Pirlo (Real Madrid, Swap), Andriy Shevchenko (Chelsea, £?), Dario Simic (Everton, £?), Jon Dahl Tomasson (Lyon, £?)
:hmmm:
Maradona (10)
12-06-2005, 00:10
Speculation: Milan
The Story so far.............
In
Ronaldo (Real Madrid, £41.3m), Guti (Real Madrid, £?), Hernan Crespo (Chelsea, £?), Massimo Oddo (Lazio, £?), Walter Samuel (Real Madrid, £?), Christian Vieri (Inter Milan, £?)
Out
Kakha Kaladze (Chelsea, £4m), Kaka (Chelsea, £?), Christian Abbiati (AS Roma, £?), Vikash Dhorasoo (Deportivo la Coruna, Paris-SG, Loan), Andrea Pirlo (Real Madrid, Swap), Andriy Shevchenko (Chelsea, £?), Dario Simic (Everton, £?), Jon Dahl Tomasson (Lyon, £?)
:hmmm:
What kind of speculation is that? Kaka, Pirlo and Sheva out? April fools?
:v46:
What kind of speculation is that? Kaka, Pirlo and Sheva out? April fools?
:v46:
Aww, it's silly season if you have forgotten.
kaka and sheva to Chel$ea and
Pirlo to Madrid
:firedev:
I read that Tomasson is a possible target of Sampdoria, Novellino wants him. I think that's what it says, my Italian isn't that great.
I also read that Pizzaro wants to move to Inter ... why Pizzaro ? Why ? :(
I also read that Pizzaro wants to move to Inter ... why Pizzaro ? Why ? :(
he has realised that they pay for doing no work, his big paycheck, LOL.
zlatanov
12-06-2005, 07:09
I read that Tomasson is a possible target of Sampdoria, Novellino wants him. I think that's what it says, my Italian isn't that great.
I also read that Pizzaro wants to move to Inter ... why Pizzaro ? Why ? :(
I saw that on www.calciomercato.com too so ... yeah, JDT seems to have attracted some interest from Samp. Not sure if they could afford to buy him though, maybe they are hoping for a loan or something but then this would be a bad deal for Milan for his price is likely to only go down from now on.
As for Pizarro, I am just speechless ... how many Emres have to go out and say that going to Inter is the biggest mistake of their lives in order for people to wake up.
it is good that pizarro don't come
and JDtomasson leaves
they are no lost nore additional quality.
so why not target some athers. when i c other clubs, they want some good players. there scouts do there work at least, when i was a scout, i would kno what to buy
milan has great team, it is my favo team, but some additional transfers must be made. big name signings
http://soccer-europe.com/Transfers/Menu.html
(transfer rumours and already bought players)
Source: Football Italia
Jon Dahl Tomasson’s time at Milan seems to be at an end and he is evaluating interest from Sampdoria and Liverpool.
The Dane has always been a squad player at the San Siro, but disappointed this season with just six goals in 30 Serie A appearances.
With the Rossoneri making no secret of their bid for Alberto Gilardino and Hernan Crespo likely to renew his loan spell from Chelsea, there would be precious little room for the former Feyenoord man.
Sampdoria are looking for a striker with international pedigree for their UEFA Cup campaign and have set their sights on Tomasson as the ideal replacement for Fabio Bazzani should he make his loan period at Lazio a permanent move.
However, it’s reported that Tomasson has other offers, including one from the newly crowned Champions of Europe. Liverpool would give him an opportunity to make his mark on the Premiership after a dismal experience with Newcastle in 1997-98, where he scored just three goals in 23 games.
Meanwhile, Milan teammate Crespo has rediscovered his form with a brace in Argentina’s 3-1 World Cup qualifying victory over Brazil.
“These goals have given me back the strength to keep fighting,” revealed the striker. “I thought my season had ended on a low point with the Champions’ League Final defeat, but instead I can go on my summer holiday refreshed and reinvigorated.”
We need 2 sell him in order 2 fund our bid for Gilardino. That's if Galliani ever decides 2 buy him. What is he waiting for? We've been after him since June last year.
Warro Bantan
13-06-2005, 10:50
Maybe ASHWIN, we are in a similar position to Juve, who have announced that they will have to sell before they can buy any players.
With Gila´s agent putting pressure on us to buy him, JDT´s long anticipated departure (by me at any rate) :D will allow us to spend the funds necessary to aquire the Italian international.
Tomasson is Sampdoria player? And it`s bad that Pizzaro will join Inter and I heard that M.Ballack will go to Real!
it is good that pizarro don't come
and JDtomasson leaves
they are no lost nore additional quality.
so why not target some athers. when i c other clubs, they want some good players. there scouts do there work at least, when i was a scout, i would kno what to buy
milan has great team, it is my favo team, but some additional transfers must be made. big name signings
http://soccer-europe.com/Transfers/Menu.html
(transfer rumours and already bought players)
yeah u would buy my classmates... sorry but i prefer the scouts we already have
yeah and cassano maybe goes to inter. adriano declared that he finds him a great addition to the squad
and asks the club to buy 'em
y can milan by him, he is an international, he is young, great quality's, scoring potential.
i also consider de rosi, i love that guy, he is beter then gatuso and pirlo.
he is a great defending midfielder, and young as well
I think if Milan will buy another striker they will let JDT go, even though i read somewhere that JDT has no problem staying as a squad player in Milan.
;)
yeah and cassano maybe goes to inter. adriano declared that he finds him a great addition to the squad
and asks the club to buy 'em
y can milan by him, he is an international, he is young, great quality's, scoring potential.
i also consider de rosi, i love that guy, he is beter then gatuso and pirlo.
he is a great defending midfielder, and young as well
No not Cassano, he is too hot headed will disrupt the dressing room, he is not needed, Instead of Cassano why not Adriano himself :hammer:
yeah and cassano maybe goes to inter. adriano declared that he finds him a great addition to the squad
and asks the club to buy 'em
y can milan by him, he is an international, he is young, great quality's, scoring potential.
i also consider de rosi, i love that guy, he is beter then gatuso and pirlo.
he is a great defending midfielder, and young as well
ur not good in economics are u?
it doesnt rain money in milanello
albertini_forever
14-06-2005, 08:40
silly season has begun ...
Boaz Salosa to Milan in the dream, sheva move to persib when he 39 years old
so silly ... heuheuheu
ZvonimirVukic
14-06-2005, 13:21
Hey i`am new here...i`am from Macedonia.and i heard some speclations that Anceloti is great admirer of Zvonimir Vukic play(he plays for Shaktar).have you heard anything about that?and i heard that Cristian Abbiati and Fillipo Inzaghi are going in Genoa?tell my something about that
Dr Milano
14-06-2005, 15:08
Hey i`am new here...i`am from Macedonia.and i heard some speclations that Anceloti is great admirer of Zvonimir Vukic play(he plays for Shaktar).have you heard anything about that?and i heard that Cristian Abbiati and Fillipo Inzaghi are going in Genoa?tell my something about that
yehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
In other transfer news, Fiorentina have today signed Marco Donadel from Italian giants Milan.
The Under-21 international arrived in a co-ownership deal in January but he now totally belongs to the Viola.
Donadel, who spent the first part of this season on loan at Sampdoria, is tied to the Artemio Franchi side until 2008.
From Channel4.com
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