View Full Version : we should sign cicinho as cafu replacement
shevaandkaka'
15-06-2005, 11:23
he is the best rb in brazil.ı hope we will sign him
kaladze will leave and we will sign a left back maxwell or evra
what do you think about that?
As a left back we have Jankulovsky... about Cininho i don't know. He have to be good at the back and not forget to defend and honestly its more safe for us to go for Oddo.
shevaandkaka'
15-06-2005, 11:37
As a left back we have Jankulovsky... about Cininho i don't know. He have to be good at the back and not forget to defend and honestly its more safe for us to go for Oddo.
kaladze will go to chealse we have only one left back.ı know marek is the best left back in the world.but we could sign a replacement for him.
shevaandkaka'
15-06-2005, 12:10
ı hope ricky will bring him to milan next year
Dr Milano
15-06-2005, 12:33
ı hope ricky will bring him to milan next year
i dont want this guy oddo seems better maybe if cafu retires he could be replacement
Roger Nolli
15-06-2005, 12:39
Cicinho is a good player, and was revealded in Atlético Mineiro, my club.
Dr Milano
15-06-2005, 12:42
Cicinho is a good player, and was revealded in Atlético Mineiro, my club.
no man i prefer oddo more honestly but thats my opinion ur s is cicinho am i right
shevaandkaka'
15-06-2005, 13:04
is bonera or kompany coming?we have only 3 defenders nesta,paolo,stam(ı never liked this guy)we need some reinforcements in defense.its paolos last year.we could sign some young defender
anyone knows about next defenders?especially dr milano
vickirin
15-06-2005, 21:49
Cafu replacement ? Hatem Trabelsi
can somebody please give me ssome info on cicinho? what clubs hes been at what hes won?
as far as i know hes just been called up to play for brazil and now people are saying he should be at milan..hmmmm
albertini_forever
16-06-2005, 02:05
cicinho ... i've never heard about this guy ...
rb : a star from az (netherland) i don;'t know his name, but there're so many scouts came and saw him ...
shoryuken
16-06-2005, 14:49
You can see him now on Channel 5 (UK). Kakà is playing too, and Dida.
albertini_forever
17-06-2005, 00:19
i saw this guy last night ...
i'll say this guy need a lot of experiences and if we bought him i think milan need loan him for 1 year to other club ...
but he look likes zico
It's a pity Seiteridis (spelling ?) was sold. Yet another player gone to Russia, he was only at Porto for 1 season and he was sold for 4 million Euros ! It's a shame we missed out on him, although i think we probably would have had to loan him out before we saw the best of him. I think it would be the same for many of the names mentioned.
I don't think Cicinho is anywhere near ready to play for Milan, not a chance. One to possibly keep an eye on, but that's about it for now.
Dr Milano
17-06-2005, 15:19
You can see him now on Channel 5 (UK). Kakà is playing too, and Dida.Brazil vs greece innit man :grinser: :5ok: :nervous:
i really wanted greece to win european innnit
hitmannq8
25-06-2005, 22:14
I do hope we consider Cicinho, he will be like Cafu when he gets older. He's got marvellous talent.
and hes so fast!
but to be honest, all he does is run. I havent seen him cross a decent cross or something. he should really work on that.
what team does he play for again?
I think we have first option on Cicinho, we have an agreement with Sao Paulo similar to the one we have with Sporting Lisbon, which is why we got Ronaldo very cheaply.
Cicinho to replace G. Neville?
Perhaps, he needs to work on his defensive qualities if he's to make it at United or Milan
Stop talking about "we" as Man Utd.
This is a forum for Milan, if people talk about "we", then "we" = Milan.
Say "I think Man Utd have first option on Cicinho......" next time please, as you run the risk of confusing quite a few forum users.
Stop talking about "we" as Man Utd.
This is a forum for Milan, if people talk about "we", then "we" = Milan.
Say "I think Man Utd have first option on Cicinho......" next time please, as you run the risk of confusing quite a few forum users.
I get the POINT
So you do, good good ;)
Quit nagging, you sound like an old woman
It's Milan ... Not Man Utd!!!
What's wrong with you styles ????
are you blind ??
or just some stupid poeple ??? :dontkn:
Roger Nolli
26-06-2005, 10:41
Cicinho is good, but is one treasonous. He was sign one worker of Atlético Mineiro to don't pay the salary, it to be able to enter in justice against the club, asking for the pass. He lived Atlético and went to São Paulo. Now he is in the Brazilian Selection.
chris and seven the way u are talking to styles is uncalled for... if anything u shouldnt expect anything nice from him the way ur talking to him
i saw cicinho score a nice free kick with sao paolo the other day... it was only highlights so i really cant judge him properly
It's Milan ... Not Man Utd!!!
What's wrong with you styles ????
are you blind ??
or just some stupid poeple ??? :dontkn:
In english please
hitmannq8
27-06-2005, 04:13
or maybe just sign Mancini as he is already experienced in Serie A and knows the language.. Mancini's agent has confirmed that he is willing to leave Roma, despite him recently signing a new deal there..
zlatanov
27-06-2005, 06:08
Mancini is a complete enigma as a right full back and I honestly doubt he would be even decent in that position. We could use him only if we start playing with wingers in a 442 or as a wing-back in a 352.
As for Cicinho, the guy does have talent but seems to be a bit erratic on the field and doesn't look like someone who really knows when to go forward and when it is time to get back. He is 25 yo already but plays more like a 19-20 yo, IMO.
kenny_shev
27-06-2005, 09:01
totally agree with you zlatanov. Watched Cicinho play couples of games in the Confed cup. I cant say i was impressed by him. He seemed get caught out of positions heaps of times. He does run everywhere though, so it seems. On several occasions, he even cut into the centre of the park and left his flank totally exposed.
I am now convinced...
styles are 100% stupid ..
Hey Styles .. if you really wants to talk about Man U then go to their forum... This is a Milan Forum !! EVERYBODY TALK ABOUT MILAN !!!
Understand???
Man U is a good club... Best in England !!
It's to shame they got a fans who is really DUM !!
I am now convinced...
styles are 100% stupid ..
Hey Styles .. if you really wants to talk about Man U then go to their forum... This is a Milan Forum !! EVERYBODY TALK ABOUT MILAN !!!
Understand???
Man U is a good club... Best in England !!
It's to shame they got a fans who is really DUM !!
im not siding with anyone here but u need to show more maturity, u started an argument out of nothing, why dont u grow up and stop calling names... oh and for the record, dum is spelt dumb so think twice before u talk! ... i wont be surprised if u get banned for what u said
ACMILAN1983
27-06-2005, 16:43
who would have though the word "we" could create such a big fuss. People here need to calm down, because its just not worth the argument.
Cicinho is fairly impressive and has good workrate. He's a possibility, but I would like to see him more before I make a firm opinion.
Cicinho is fairly impressive and has good workrate. He's a possibility, but I would like to see him more before I make a firm opinion.
I agree 100%. Nice to see that there are still talant out there though.
PS. Seven: Give Styles a break, we do welcome fans of other teams to contribute here as long as they are respectfull. Feel free to report to an admin or mod if you feel that this is not happening. No need to pick a fight. Peace :)
i'll calm down...
but, honestly it's a bit strange to talk about another club in milan forum...
in milan forum we supposed to talk about milan... i dont say that milan forum don't accept another club fans.. but if they enter the milan forum, they should talk and share there opinion about milan...
Don't you think it's quite strage to enter milan forum and talk and talk and talk about another team ???
For me It's Strange!!!
btw : peace to you hendrik!!! :v103:
On topic..... Cicinho has been good in this confederatons cup and he is playing while Belletti is on the bench, this means that the guy has some talent
shevaandkaka'
28-06-2005, 11:03
On topic..... Cicinho has been good in this confederatons cup and he is playing while Belletti is on the bench, this means that the guy has some talent
maicon is on the bench but cicinho is one of best players in brazil nt confederation cup
still I think Cassetti is better
Dunt know why but Cafu has definitely grown on me.. he's just calm and gives his best on the field.. i know he prolly infuriates the other team with his cheeky grin though and thats good right?
I am now convinced...
styles are 100% stupid ..
Hey Styles .. if you really wants to talk about Man U then go to their forum... This is a Milan Forum !! EVERYBODY TALK ABOUT MILAN !!!
Understand???
Man U is a good club... Best in England !!
It's to shame they got a fans who is really DUM !!
I pity you
i'll calm down...
but, honestly it's a bit strange to talk about another club in milan forum...
in milan forum we supposed to talk about milan... i dont say that milan forum don't accept another club fans.. but if they enter the milan forum, they should talk and share there opinion about milan...
Don't you think it's quite strage to enter milan forum and talk and talk and talk about another team ???
For me It's Strange!!!
btw : peace to you hendrik!!! :v103:
we
You getting all worked up just because of those two letters.
Stezagud
29-06-2005, 10:30
I think we have first option on Cicinho, we have an agreement with Sao Paulo similar to the one we have with Sporting Lisbon, which is why we got Ronaldo very cheaply.
Cicinho to replace G. Neville?
could happen, i agree about him needing to improve defensively before he moves to Europe though. I think they have an even younger right back who Utd have bought already and then loaned back to them??
It seems a lot of the young Brazilian full backs will have to live with the burden of hype, trying to meet the standards of Cafu and Carlos (to a lesser extent :D ) Cicinho is getting the hype now but he is still well short of the standards Cafu set imo.
:angf: ----> :5horse:
:rone: :rone:
cicinho had a great final game today.
how much does he cost?
Maradona (10)
29-06-2005, 17:07
Yeah, he was impressive today as well. He could be a nice addition, especially since we must give Cafu a break here and there. And he is very good opening D's.
This being said, I doubt he is on Milan's radar right about now.
Milan3869
05-07-2005, 23:47
milan should definitely get cicinho as a future RB. i saw him score a rocket just outside the area in a game between sao paulo & corinthians. WHAT A GOAL!!
btw he also played well in the confed cup for brazil.
hitmannq8
10-07-2005, 06:07
what is his status at his current cluB? does he want out? is he happy? is his club good? do clubs want him?
hitmannq8
10-07-2005, 06:32
okay, guess there is no Cicinho that is going to be coming to Milan afterall :(
Candidates are: Oddo, Cassetti and Mesto
http://www.tgcom.it/sport/articoli/articolo265769.shtml
I'd pick Oddo
zlatanov
10-07-2005, 07:01
one article doesn't mean that there is nothing else cooking in the background. I personally would prefer Oddo too - good player, knows the Serie A in and out, won't be very expensive. As for Cicinho, I am not sure he has the defensive qualities and tactical awareness to play in Milan - at the CCup, he had one good game followed by another rather average, so I wouldn't mind watching a bit more. I am sure Galliani and co would be very careful, as usual, and will give a lot of thought before getting someone for Cafu's role.
one article doesn't mean that there is nothing else cooking in the background. I personally would prefer Oddo too - good player, knows the Serie A in and out, won't be very expensive. As for Cicinho, I am not sure he has the defensive qualities and tactical awareness to play in Milan - at the CCup, he had one good game followed by another rather average, so I wouldn't mind watching a bit more. I am sure Galliani and co would be very careful, as usual, and will give a lot of thought before getting someone for Cafu's role.
at last someone with a bit of sense...
this guy cichino has had a couple of good games of brazil and from what can be gathered one good season for sao paulo.
if you ask me brazil is the last place we should be buying any defenders.
how would this guy fair against the likes of giggs and luque? would this player have been better at handling lee of PSV? some how i don`t think so.
the last great defender (who was a defender first and foremost) was aldair. if you find me another aldair then snap him up. otherwise lets just stick to buying creative midfieldes and strikers from brazil... (controversial i know but thats how it is...)
theres many better defenders in europe. oddo (who i dont think is anything special) is not great defensivly but still has experince of serie A and europe. theres trabelsi, bonera, zaccardo who are all still viable and better options. although with money an issue milan will probably go for oddo
Hasan Rossonero
10-07-2005, 09:20
at last someone with a bit of sense...
this guy cichino has had a couple of good games of brazil and from what can be gathered one good season for sao paulo.
if you ask me brazil is the last place we should be buying any defenders.
how would this guy fair against the likes of giggs and luque? would this player have been better at handling lee of PSV? some how i don`t think so.
the last great defender (who was a defender first and foremost) was aldair. if you find me another aldair then snap him up. otherwise lets just stick to buying creative midfieldes and strikers from brazil... (controversial i know but thats how it is...)
theres many better defenders in europe. oddo (who i dont think is anything special) is not great defensivly but still has experince of serie A and europe. theres trabelsi, bonera, zaccardo who are all still viable and better options. although with money an issue milan will probably go for oddo
i'd bring in bonera or oddo.
shevaandkaka'
10-07-2005, 10:49
ciciho al milan dopo cafu
according to corriera della sport ve canale 5 televideo
we will sign him after cafu
shevaandkaka'
10-07-2005, 12:57
according to some reports
ok
cicinho is ours.after cafu he is our next cafu.
but ı think galliani will sell sheva to chealse for 87 m euros.
shevaandkaka'
10-07-2005, 13:00
some reports in spain we will sign ronaldinho instead of sheva for 80 m euros.
and we will sell sheva to chealse for 87m pounds.
we will sign puyol to replace paolo
according to some reports in spain
also van basten will be on the bench after 1-2 years
shoryuken
10-07-2005, 14:13
I'd probably go for Mesto...
shevaandkaka'
10-07-2005, 14:17
also he is a right winger not right back
backs are important for our tactic
we dont player wingers
we play with wing backs.
ok
ı hope you understand me but cicinho is the best right back.
before confederation cup cicinho was also one of the best.
he is great
he is better than mesto in everything
just look at his dribling skills
hitmannq8
12-07-2005, 08:11
Cicinho is ours? Just like how you said Pizarro, Casetti and Gila were ours 2 months ago?
Sorry for bringing back to the "we" topic. I've reminded that style in another thread and I guess Chris and seven were not the second and the third. I feel fooled after reading that style's words coz I thought that option was with Milan :stupid: He IS dumb, if our moderators KO him forever, the guy who's hurt won't be a Milanista.
freddydaddy7
12-07-2005, 23:55
hi all i am new here hope u guys havin fun
he should join us but seems like beging of next year then
GuySmiley
13-07-2005, 19:37
From Tribalfootball
AC Milan set to beat Betis for Sao Paulo defender Cicinho
tribalfootball.com - July 14, 2005
AC Milan are understood to have beaten Real Betis to secure a deal for Sao Paulo defender Cicinho.
While Milan chiefs have refused to confirm the agreement, it's believed Brazil international Cicinho will move to Milan when the winter market opens in January.
Cicinho plays on the right-side of defence and is seen by Milan as an eventual successor for veteran Cafu.
Some of you will say, its tribal, dont believe it. But can we all dream for a moment here?
Ross Oneri
13-07-2005, 23:48
Hope the story about Cicinho joining Milan isn't true :d55: (didn't find him good during the confed cup) ! I'd prefer someone proven and experienced like Lee Young-Puo of PSV :5ok: !
freddydaddy7
14-07-2005, 01:16
yaa but dont forget lee is on the left side, and the truth is Cinnchio is just i guess 23 and has alot of talent and work to go on and i am sure he will sure take over pretty well from Cafu and he seems the future of Brazil after the world cup and Milan and i would love to see him in milan even thou Gallini is talking very highly of morrazrti but he still needs time
Ross Oneri
14-07-2005, 01:31
Hi Freddy
I know Lee plays on the left side for PSV but did you know that he is actually right-footed and plays on the right side for Korea ! His versatility is precisely what Milan needs ! :rone:
freddydaddy7
14-07-2005, 01:37
he does i thought he was left footed but if so its cool idea to have him on that depends on Management if they are willing to sign him on it would be good but i would still love to have cinchino coz it would be good to see oddo but seems he is too expenisve to come here
hitmannq8
15-07-2005, 14:21
http://www.goal.com/NewsDetail.aspx?idNews=73960&progr=1
YES!!! Im happy that there are rumours linking us with Cicinho!!! Now im glad.. I can dream a little of getting Cicinho!! Now would someone translate that please? Its in Spanish.
hitmannq8
15-07-2005, 14:33
i dont know much spanish, but i think this is what will happen..
Galliani sent a scout last night to see Cicinho in the Liberatodes (can never spell it) final which saw Sao Paolo win 4-0. His clause is around 9 million euro. Seeing as his contract finishes in December, and him having Italian links in his family, we will buy him in December. It will be like hitting 2 birds with one rock, as we will be getting him for free, and he will have the Italian passport ;)
shevaandkaka'
15-07-2005, 14:46
The Milan is the rival of the Betis by Cicinho 15/07/2005 the 18:30:00 draftee of international the Brazilian Cicinho by the complica Betis after the appearance of the Milan, that sent ojeadores yesterday to observe the evolutions of the player of the Sao Paulo in the return of the Liberating end of the Glass. Cicinho is one of the lateral rights with more future of the world. It has demonstrated it in the recent Glass of the Confederations and it has confirmed it in the Liberating end of the Glass, in which its equipment, the Sao Paulo, has procalmed champion after beating in the return with rotundidad to the Athletic Paranaense (4-0). Until it does very little, occurred by fact that sooner or later the player would end up fichando by the Betis. The interest of the set Andalusian, and more in concrete of its president Lopera, seemed that it would end up fructifying. Nevertheless, and without discarding his arrival to Heliópolis, an European giant, the Milan far from it, it has made his intentions, and vaa clear to turn upside down in search of the new Cafú, that is indeed lateral straight the holder of the set lombardo. Adriano Galliani, vice-president of the rossonero club, sent ojeadores to the stage of Morumbí, where last night one night beautiful in history was lived on the Sao Paulo. But there am the complexity here. The player finalizes the contract with his present equipment in December. At the moment Cicinho would occupy place of extracommunitarian, but it hopes that at the end of year, it can count on the Italian passport. Of this form, the Milan will look for its draftee for January, and would kill two birds of a shot: gratuitous draftee and communitarian passport. The trick of the Betis is in which they wish the draftee of immediate form. And this without a doubt is going to be valued of very positive form in the director of the Sao Paulo, since in case of rejecting the supply of the Betis, they would be possible to be found whereupon the player went away few months later, and without perceiving only euro.
i really hope we get him, he is the closest thing to being the "new cafu".
Dr Milano
16-07-2005, 07:15
Hi Freddy
I know Lee plays on the left side for PSV but did you know that he is actually right-footed and plays on the right side for Korea ! His versatility is precisely what Milan needs ! :rone:
a bit like me i play on left but right footed but that s my 2nd postion
hitmannq8
16-07-2005, 13:01
Same here Dr Milano :) I prefer Zambrotta-role :P But i´ve played as a Nesta, a Pirlo, and a Cafu before. I WAS EVEN AN INZAGHI 4 years ago!
Dr Milano
17-07-2005, 06:15
Same here Dr Milano :) I prefer Zambrotta-role :P But i´ve played as a Nesta, a Pirlo, and a Cafu before. I WAS EVEN AN INZAGHI 4 years ago!
cool bro guys my name is actually suhail so if u wanna call me that instead of dr milano. Hitman which position u play know im the star man riund our area our team
hitmannq8
17-07-2005, 09:01
I prefer an attacking left-back role.. but I got MVP 2 years ago when I played the Pirlo role (and we got the championship for schools :P).. Pirlo role is exhausting, everytime a player passed the midfield, I had to go to them, whether it was left or right, and even when they pass the ball, im the one that has to run, it was terrible it made me run so much.. but in big competetive games, i tend to play as a centre-back, more of Cannavaro´ish type of player..
Southernsun
17-07-2005, 13:35
we need a player like tassotti. we already have to much of an atacking team.
hitmannq8
18-07-2005, 17:32
We will not get Cicinho this summer for sure.. unfortunately ;( .. no source
we need a player like tassotti. we already have to much of an atacking team.
Simic can take that role
hitmannq8
18-07-2005, 17:37
Simic should be thrown into a garbage can
:grinser: Come on man hes not that bad, Iv seen Kaladze play far worse than he ever has. Hes no Cafu, but as far as defending goes he pretty consistant.
Southernsun
18-07-2005, 19:31
Simic can take that role
simic? as a sub, yes, or not even. cafu` is a right back defender. tassotti was a true right back classic defender. we have to many attack minded players including cafu`. its time that the defence (age wise) should focus on defending. let the midfield, and fowards attack. see.......maldini, and cafu` going up all the time, that has cost milan plenty of goals. don't count on seeing maldini up beyond the half line this season, and also cafu`. its to risky. WE NEED A CLASSIC DEFENDER!
p.s. don't be allarmed if milan plays a good amount of games with 3 defenders: stam, nesta, & maldini. who needs cicinho if we have serginho?
i think oddo is the most logicall RB to get out there... from the list hes the best one at defending and hes also good going forward plus his asking price isnt high... and after what galliani did today im starting to believe we could make lazio pay us so we can get him :D
freddydaddy7
19-07-2005, 02:10
i agree with u mk18 he is pretty good and to have him and Cicinho out there on the RB would be perfect if The brazilain joins us by Jan next year would be cool coz i aint sure how long Cafu will give 90 mins and over 60 games a season
they both are really neat but what u think about mesto he is pretty good cant really say about his defendin he surely scored against us last season
nah cicinho is great!
we need him. he is beter then oddo and cafu.
and he is prob cheaper the oddo.
btw oddo is already +-30, we will buy em for 1years
:v46:
lets think about the future of the club. look to chelsea. man they baought 1 of the most promising rising star defender : philips
shevaandkaka'
19-07-2005, 11:33
ı dont understand why peeps want oddo instead of cicinho
cuz he is not a good rb.
he is not better even marzoratti
cicinho is the new cafu
dont make unless comments
we already signed cicinho
he will arrive in january as ı said before
shevaandkaka'
19-07-2005, 12:36
nah cicinho is great!
we need him. he is beter then oddo and cafu.
and he is prob cheaper the oddo.
btw oddo is already +-30, we will buy em for 1years
:v46:
lets think about the future of the club. look to chelsea. man they baought 1 of the most promising rising star defender : philips
cicinho is free
he will come in january
believe me priceless
simic? as a sub, yes, or not even. cafu` is a right back defender. tassotti was a true right back classic defender. we have to many attack minded players including cafu`. its time that the defence (age wise) should focus on defending. let the midfield, and fowards attack. see.......maldini, and cafu` going up all the time, that has cost milan plenty of goals. don't count on seeing maldini up beyond the half line this season, and also cafu`. its to risky. WE NEED A CLASSIC DEFENDER!
p.s. don't be allarmed if milan plays a good amount of games with 3 defenders: stam, nesta, & maldini. who needs cicinho if we have serginho?
When our full backs dont get forward we lack options. Cafu is a vital outlet for Pirlo. We are at our best when they get forward.
hitmannq8
19-07-2005, 12:44
Yup we are. We dont need Classic Defenders as Southernsun said..
Here´s something to think about:
ANCELOTTI: 'Meditating on something new'
7/19/2005
MILANELLO - Carlo Ancelotti announced that one of the players could be fielded in a new position: 'I have been thinking for some time and meditating over the possibility of inventing a new position for one out players. I could be a midfielder but I have spoken to him yet. I will do it soon, everything will naturally depend on whether he wants to do it.'
I think he´s talking about Gattuso being pushed to a more central role to push Cafu up.
shevaandkaka'
19-07-2005, 13:37
he was the best
also he was in dream team
also he was the best player
he is ours
kaka' brought him to us
ShevaandKaka', you say don't make useless comments but your last few posts are full of them. There's no doubt about it Cicinho is a good prospect, but lets not get ahead of ourselves just yet. Sure he's great going forward, but he needs to improve his crossing and his defensive atributes, as illustrated in the confederations cup. He hasn't proven anything just yet, so don't talk about him like he's already the best player in the world.
I would also like to see the source that makes you believe we have already signed him. We've been linked, just like other clubs, but there's nothing official.
Haroon mentioned in XT that Cicinho has renewed his contract until 2010, so we will definitely have to pay som money for his service, unless we want to wait for another five years. :D
I don't know his source, but I will take his word anyway. :)
ShevaandKaka', you say don't make useless comments Really? ;) He really said that? :guw:
hitmannq8
19-07-2005, 17:07
CICINHO SIGNED ON UNTIL 2010? sources please
CICINHO SIGNED ON UNTIL 2010? sources please
I don't have further source...
Haroon mentioned in XT that Cicinho has renewed his contract until 2010, so we will definitely have to pay som money for his service, unless we want to wait for another five years. :D
I don't know his source, but I will take his word anyway. :)
nah cicinho is great!
we need him. he is beter then oddo and cafu.
and he is prob cheaper the oddo.
btw oddo is already +-30, we will buy em for 1years
:v46:
lets think about the future of the club. look to chelsea. man they baought 1 of the most promising rising star defender : philips
better than oddo & cafu?????? ... ur joking right?
oh and oddo 28, why would he stay for a year? ... even if he was 30 ... his contract would be presumably 3 years... dont say things ur not sure of
hitmannq8
29-07-2005, 12:16
Juventus have joined us in the race for Cicinho! Just like how they also joined us in the race for Oddo a couple of months ago! We first went to Oddo, then Juve joined in, then we went to Cicinho, and then Juve joined in again!
Source: http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jul29d.html
Warro Bantan
29-07-2005, 13:46
So they have...hmmm now what? A bidding war in the offing? Juve for sure cant afford that, and Milan..well, Berlu is clutching his purse strings really tightly.
I hope we get him, if he is as good as he is claimed to be. If he isnt that good, then Juve can take him...:D
i wont mind if juve have him while we take oddo
hitmannq8
02-08-2005, 14:34
It seems like we wont be getting either. It has been announced that Jankulovski will be taken the right-wing role. He will be Cafu´s substitute. An excellent idea, Marek can play at the right until January, and hopefully, we will get Cicinho then. I think we have a good relationship with Sao Paolo right? Hopefully Kaka can convince Cicinho to come to Milan
Brasileiro
03-08-2005, 11:14
Juve buying a brazilian?? I don´t believe...and i pray that they never by a brazilian!!! Cicinho is great, he only needs time to adapt, he´s playng as winger since last year. But, IMO the next cafu isn´t Cicinho, is Daniel Alves of Sevilla. This kid is great, and is playing better and better...i don´t know if you can watch Spanish League, guys...but Daniel is a monster in stamina, and have more skils than Cafu. IMO he will be our Starter after THE GREAT Cafu...
hitmannq8
03-08-2005, 12:19
Cicinho will be in Italy next week to get his passport - according to Calciomercato.com. The teams in Italy that were linked to him are Fiorentina, Milan, and Juve. Juve are closing in on Miguel, Moggi hasnt pulled any surprises yet, so expect the next one to be a surprise.
I just hope we can get Cicinho. Although, he has stated that he wants to stay one more year in Brazil so he can get selected for the World Cup.
hitmannq8
04-08-2005, 14:43
http://www.calciomercato.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=94813
An agreement has been found ??????
The rumour is that we may sign him in January. he will come and talk to Aredio Braida after he got his Italian passport.
The rumour is that we may sign him in January. he will come and talk to Aredio Braida after he got his Italian passport.
That's right.
MEanwhile Cafu is seriously considering to finish his career in Milan. that's what the brazilian says today in a press conference. Galliani already offered him an extension and told him that the doors will always be open to him. Cafu say that seeing Billy and Paolo enjoying the game in such an advanced age only gives him the mood to continue playing in Milan for several more years.
hitmannq8
05-08-2005, 11:37
Which could mean that we could get Cicinho to play as a right midfielder?
That could be an option, but it wouldn't be the main one. He would be bought primarily as a right-back with the advantage of being able to play further upfield if we play a suitable formation.
predatorfc
06-08-2005, 10:42
Brazilian international Cicinho has revealed he has turned down a move to Milan in order to remain with Sao Paulo and increase his World Cup chances.
The 25-year-old made a big impression with his performances in the Confederations Cup in June and was approached by The Rossoneri with a view to launching his career in Europe.
Wolfsburg have also been credited with an interest in the full-back who could have moved to San Siro and continued his education next to Brazil's veteran hero Cafu.
However Cicinho made the brave decision to turn down the six time European Cup winners to enhance his chances of making the World Cup in Germany next summer.
"I am very comfortable at Sao Paulo so I am not thinking of the chance to leave this team at the moment," said Cicinho.
"I have spoken about this with my father and he agreed that my decision is the correct one.
"I think that the best thing for my career will be to stay at Sao Paulo and leave to go to Europe after the World Cup in 2006.
"I want to stay at Sao Paulo until after the World Cup because if I play in Brazil I have more chances for being recalled to the national team and that is my objective."
Cicinho was included in the latest Brazil squad to face Croatia in a friendly fixture on August 17.
hitmannq8
06-08-2005, 12:55
Whats the source for this? Hmm, I haven´t seen anything about this any where. And also, Wolfsburg haven´t been linked to him at all in the past. And they say he is 25 yrs old, I thought he wasn´t even 20 yet?
Bosniaco
06-08-2005, 20:36
Cicinho was born on June 24, 1980 so he is 25 years old.
predatorfc
06-08-2005, 21:23
owhh..source is planetfootball.com :D
thats almost as good as tribalfootball.com
but it still is realistic that he rejected us for THIS season..
owhh..source is planetfootball.com :D
i too have read that on another site....CICI SNUBS MILAN...!!!how rude
predatorfc
07-08-2005, 02:13
but planetfootball is quite good if compared to tribalfootball....
Milan3869
07-08-2005, 12:29
Juve buying a brazilian?? I don´t believe...and i pray that they never by a brazilian!!! Cicinho is great, he only needs time to adapt, he´s playng as winger since last year. But, IMO the next cafu isn´t Cicinho, is Daniel Alves of Sevilla. This kid is great, and is playing better and better...i don´t know if you can watch Spanish League, guys...but Daniel is a monster in stamina, and have more skils than Cafu. IMO he will be our Starter after THE GREAT Cafu...
alves more skliis than cafu?? are u crazy!! you cant compare him to cafu!!
the next cafu is not alves....its definitely Rafael from coritiba...he's only 20 years old, and in a few years will be better than belleti & cicinho. give him a couple more years and he will start for brazil and replace cafu...belive that!!!
we should forget about cicinho and sign rafael before his stock rises...who's with me??
Bosniaco
07-08-2005, 13:34
alves more skliis than cafu?? are u crazy!! you cant compare him to cafu!!
the next cafu is not alves....its definitely Rafael from coritiba...he's only 20 years old, and in a few years will be better than belleti & cicinho. give him a couple more years and he will start for brazil and replace cafu...belive that!!!
we should forget about cicinho and sign rafael before his stock rises...who's with me??
I'm, I watched a covrage about him on fox soccer kid is really good.
']thats almost as good as tribalfootball.com
but it still is realistic that he rejected us for THIS season..
Planetfootball is usually a reliable website from my experience.
But they put a typical media spin on this story. He didn't really snub Milan entirely, but merely postponed his decision until after the World Cup.
I can respect that. :strong:
sehnsucht79
07-08-2005, 21:50
Stop claiming one player to be the "next this," "next that"...
Milan3869
08-08-2005, 01:22
get the **** out of here you piece of **** juventus fan....booh!
Relax my friend, no need for it.
Anyway 'bout Cicinho, Sky repoted the same as the other two and apparently all three are crap. Cicinho is expected to arrive Milanello this week and sign a 4 years contract. all depands on Milan's determination, whether she wants him now or wait until January.
Source: Inferno.com :sagrin:
(ACMilan.co.il) :star:
how reliable is your source? ;)
get the **** out of here you piece of **** juventus fan....booh!
:rr30: Now now there newbie! :rr30: Sensucht is allowed to be here as our invited guest. SO much so that she's actually considered a family member. Your place sadly is below hers so maybe, just maybe... I'd watch my manners if I were you.
MilanPerSempre
08-08-2005, 08:34
This is what i read on calciomercato.com about Cicinho...
Cicinho rimanda il Milan a dopo I Mondiali: ‘Per ora resto al San Paolo’
Cicinho getta acqua sul fuoco in merito alle voci su un suo possible trasferimento al Milan o in qualsiasi altra squadra europea.
Il giocatore è in Italia per ultimare le pratiche relative all’acquisizione del passaporto comunitario, ma questo non implica un suo addio al San Paolo.
Il laterale destroy brasiliano ha dichiarato: “Sto molto bene nel club in cui mi trovo ed al momento non penso di cambiare squadra. Mi piacerebbe restare al San Paolo fino al Mondiale die Germania 2006, per potermi giocare al meglio la convocazione nella Seleçao. Poi non so se rimarrò fino al termine del mio contratto (2008) o se andrò via prima. Il mio viaggio in Italia è solo dovuto a questioni burocratiche. Tornerò martedi per giocare il giorno dopo contro il Figueirerse”.
So, it seems that we won't see Cicinho playing for Milan immediately. If we may believe this source of course.
']how reliable is your source? ;)
Very much reliable. ;) so does Calciomercato. and apparently all three turned out to be not that crap. well Cicinho's move to Milan will be delayed for another half a year and instead January he is expected to arrive in July. reasons are the player wants to gather as much playing time in order to increase his chances to called up for Brazil's Nt, WC 2006. obvisouly if he will come to Milan, he will have to compete with Cafu(impossible :proud: ) so its understandable he prefer to stay for now inSao Paulo and play, and not sit on the bench.
Well, Massimo Oddo may be the one to arrive now as I understand, together with Perugia's giant size keeper, Kalac.
We'll see. :5ok:
Forza Milan!
four keepers? why?
and if we get Oddo AND Cicinho within the next few years, does that mean the end of Cafu? :(
']four keepers? why?
and if we get Oddo AND Cicinho within the next few years, does that mean the end of Cafu? :(
Not four but three. the Greek does not realy stand in the anticipations and he may be release. The decision about Kalac will be known perhaps tomorrow, after Perugia's future will be cleared. if Perugia will bankrupt(:() Zeljko Kalac will sign in Milan for 3 years and will be the second keeper of the team.
The end of Cafu... I don't think so! :p286: :dcool:
ACMILAN1983
08-08-2005, 16:16
get the **** out of here you piece of **** juventus fan....booh!
how about you don't discriminate against a poster for who they support or get out of here. Sally happens to be an intelligent and respectful poster who has happened to make a good few friends here. The fact that she's a Juve fan should not influence her right to stay.
She's been here for about a year and has made many intelligent contributions and earnt the respect of many posters, including me. You on the other hand have been here a month and you think you have the right to say this to her!? :rolleyes:
I was surprised to hear Eretheropolous was disappointing Milan in USA, he seemed ok to me. However, I do think Kalac is better.
Cincinho if he starts ahead of Cafu during the World Cup will become very expensive after it, plus there will other Clubs after him if he puts in an worthwhile performance as we all expect him too, his recent decision seems too shady, i hope he is not convinced by ronaldo et al to join real as Robihno did, and if they keep Luxembergo he might just go there. Kaka, Dida and Cafu should knock some sense into him. :angf:
It would be wise to try to get oddo right now becouse if cafu gets injured we are out!! And with oddo we have good backup for RB untill the end of the year. Next year, cafu will probable retire and we will still need a RB, and that is when cicinho comes, so we can give in some cash now and let him stay untill next season, then he'll become rossonero...
Somehow with our transfers i feel we are a Club in transition that are doing extremely during this period. :frustrat:
I agree with KhRis saying we're a team in transition... but we've always been... the core is still intact...and it more than just players... it's Milan's heritage...
I agree with Milan3869 about Rafael from Curitiba... he's a great prospect... but at this point, still a prospect... Cicinho is young and with more exposure... but still Cafu will
be Brazil's RB in Germany... no doubt... I disagree with Milan3869 insulting another poster just for being a Juve fan... we need to show some class, just like the team we love does...
Cicinho is the leading prospect for RB, Rafael is worth watching... Daniel Alves???? not even close... Cicinho plays for Sao Paulo, team where Cafu, Kaka and Leonardo played... they can tell him one thing or two about the club...
Don't forget the Primavera has Digao (Kaka's brother) another young Brazilian defender growing under a man who seems to know how to defend... his name is Franco Baresi.
Brasileiro
08-08-2005, 20:57
I agree with KhRis saying we're a team in transition... but we've always been... the core is still intact...and it more than just players... it's Milan's heritage...
I agree with Milan3869 about Rafael from Curitiba... he's a great prospect... but at this point, still a prospect... Cicinho is young and with more exposure... but still Cafu will
be Brazil's RB in Germany... no doubt... I disagree with Milan3869 insulting another poster just for being a Juve fan... we need to show some class, just like the team we love does...
Cicinho is the leading prospect for RB, Rafael is worth watching... Daniel Alves???? not even close... Cicinho plays for Sao Paulo, team where Cafu, Kaka and Leonardo played... they can tell him one thing or two about the club...
Don't forget the Primavera has Digao (Kaka's brother) another young Brazilian defender growing under a man who seems to know how to defend... his name is Franco Baresi.
Good post, Cicinho is the leading prospect, but you are wrong in Daniel Alves. Watch Sevilla games, this kid is GREAT!!! I watch this 3 players for a long time, 3 great RB, but Daniel is the complet package...
Brasileiro
08-08-2005, 21:32
alves more skliis than cafu?? are u crazy!! you cant compare him to cafu!!
the next cafu is not alves....its definitely Rafael from coritiba...he's only 20 years old, and in a few years will be better than belleti & cicinho. give him a couple more years and he will start for brazil and replace cafu...belive that!!!
we should forget about cicinho and sign rafael before his stock rises...who's with me??
I´m crazy??? Maybe...but you just show your little knowledge about brazilian football...I will help you: You´re right about Rafinha, great prospect, and was the only one that shine in our NT in Sub-20 WC this year.
But you don´t now NOTHING about Daniel Alves...he´s only 22yrs old, and was the MVP of sub-20 WC that my country won, some years ago... and yes, he has much more skills than Cafu!! I´m not compare him to cafu as a player, Cafu is the best right now. I was comparing skills, and he´s better than cafu in skils, period!!
Tell me one more thing, how you watch spanish league??
Milan3869
08-08-2005, 21:45
haha...you keep saying better skills than cafu....you're crazy!! you live there and you dont know ****. i understand you're fond of this alves player, but don't say nonsense like that.
i watch la liga by means of GOL TV, great channel! you should watch.
and for those of you protecting that JUVE person, shut the **** up!
Brasileiro
08-08-2005, 22:02
haha...you keep saying better skills than cafu....you're crazy!! you live there and you dont know ****. i understand you're fond of this alves player, but don't say nonsense like that.
i watch la liga by means of GOL TV, great channel! you should watch.
You don´t know NOTHING about brazilian football...but I give you Rafinha, great found. I like Alves, rafinha and Cicinho...and the great Cafu!!! But the more skilled is Alves.
Here I watch Spanish football in ESPN, ESPN-Brasil and TV Bandeirantes. They show 4 or 5 games between sat. and sunday, and they show more than 2 Sevilla games in a year.
One more thing, you always write crazy, f*** and other things...I´m here to agree or desagree w/ some member, but always respecting everyone..as you show w/ sehnsucht79(Juve fan), you can´t. So ignore my post(I will ignore you)
Milan3869
08-08-2005, 22:20
PENDEJO!!! thats what you are brasileiro
MilanPerSempre
08-08-2005, 22:25
and for those of you protecting that JUVE person, shut the **** up!
I think it's time for you to start to have some more respect for other persons!
And please don't react on what i said, cause i already know what you will say. Probably something like shut the **** up again? Huh?
Please calm down!
Brasileiro
08-08-2005, 22:35
PENDEJO!!! thats what you are brasileiro
Pendejo=as***le , right?? Translate this:
E vc é um boiola covarde, que só é homem na net!!!
It´s time to sleep, kid...
Peachtot
09-08-2005, 03:33
Plz stop using **** code...!!
i'm sick of this thing
He wants to play in the World Cup (http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=297254&lid=8&cpid=21&title=Cicinho+snubs+Milan&channel=italy)
zlatanov
09-08-2005, 06:23
there is already a thread discussing this ... maybe you could post it there.
If some of you are here to argue, and not to to say something creative and smart, please just turn off your computer....
Tactics, oppinions and ideas are welcome, but we still need some class in here. Cicinho is the topic in here!
Sorry, never noticed, was in a hurry.
Can't be bothered starting to read a long thread mind you. I'm sure someone else will post it
I think it's time for you to start to have some more respect for other persons!
And please don't react on what i said, cause i already know what you will say. Probably something like shut the **** up again? Huh?
Please calm down!
I agree. You need to watch yourself a bit Milan3869. You already done this to Sensucht and now you are picking a fight with someone else. Is it possible to disagree without condescending someone else's opinion? Keep it civil... that is the rule here in MM.
this guy is definatly getting banned... i wonder how young he is?!
hitmannq8
09-08-2005, 10:52
back to topic - unfortunately we seem to have lost hope on trying to get Cicinho now, or even January. I think next summer we will not even get him because his price tag will go uppppp after his excellent world cup as everyone predicts. We should have a pre-contract thing like how we had with Marek and Stam.
One thing about this transfer... let's say Cafu is a starter in the WC as we all expect... let's say that for some reason, Cicinho gets to play (minutes, one game, or more) and he does also very well... let's say we sign him... wouldn't we have too many extracomunitarian players?
Does anyone know if Cafu already got his Italian passport?
zlatanov
09-08-2005, 13:49
One thing about this transfer... let's say Cafu is a starter in the WC as we all expect... let's say that for some reason, Cicinho gets to play (minutes, one game, or more) and he does also very well... let's say we sign him... wouldn't we have too many extracomunitarian players?
Does anyone know if Cafu already got his Italian passport?
I don't know about Cafu but Cicinho got his Italian passport less than a week ago so no worries here :beer:
Thanks, Zlatanov...
actually, I just found the answer to my own question... good source, Gazzetta dello Sport...
Il Milan marca stretto Cicinho
Il brasiliano, erede designato di Cafu nella Seleçao, ha fatto un blitz in Italia e avrà la cittadinanza. E i rossoneri lo aspettano, dopo il Mondiale
Cicero Joao de Césare, detto Cicinho, 25 anni. LiveraniMILANO, 9 agosto 2005 - Le raccomandazioni servono, anche nel calcio. Per fortuna non sono tutto, perché quando sei in campo o corri e giochi bene oppure, nella migliore delle ipotesi, finisci in panchina. Una buona parola, però, può servire soprattutto quando devi ancora far conoscere il tuo nome e le tue potenzialità sono per lo più sconosciute. Nell’ambiente del Milan Cícero João de Cézare, in arte Cicinho, ha uno sponsor importante: Cafu. Da qualche mese, prima ancora che Cicinho esplodesse nel San Paolo e nel Brasile alla Confederations Club, Cafu non perde occasione per esaltare le qualità del giovane connazionale. E adesso aumentano le possibilità che il Pendolino possa allevare il suo erede direttamente a Milanello.
well i just read on calciomercato
that cicinho is band for a year or something
for insulting a ref...
so....
p.s.somebody should check this out cause im not sure..
i dont know italian.
zlatanov
09-08-2005, 16:39
it only says that there is an investigation and Cicinho and Tevez face the possibility of being banned for half a year or so. There is nothing conclusive about this and is probably just another way for journalists to fill up the pages - in Brazil's minor leagues referees are being shot at, so players of this calibre to get banned for 6 months for cursing the ref ... I doubt it. In the end they will probably get fined, that would be all, IMO.
shevagol_7
09-08-2005, 17:00
Does anyone know if Cafu already got his Italian passport?
I think Cafu got his Italian passport when he was with Roma. But I believe that there was some questions being asked when he first came to Milan about the legality of the whole process.
Sorry I failed to translate... I will not go line by line but mainly they say that Milan
expects to have Cicinho right after WC, he's going to Italy to process his citizenship,
his grandfather was born in Italy so he can become Italian. Cafu has been his main promoter to join Milan... which to me only speaks well about him, instead of trying to
avoid a replacement for him, he's the one who recommends it.
Brasileiro
09-08-2005, 19:11
C. A. Parreira(Brazil coach) said some days ago, that any player that want to play the next WC, better don´t go to a team and be just a option in the bench. His words are for cicinho(go to Milan) and Ricardinho(go to Real Madrid) and perhaps that is placing fear in Cicinho...
Peachtot
10-08-2005, 01:43
this guy is definatly getting banned... i wonder how young he is?!
as young as you, maybe...:D
Full of spirit...
One thing about this transfer... let's say Cafu is a starter in the WC as we all expect... let's say that for some reason, Cicinho gets to play (minutes, one game, or more) and he does also very well... let's say we sign him... wouldn't we have too many extracomunitarian players?
Does anyone know if Cafu already got his Italian passport?
As far as I understand it there is no limit on non-EC players in Italy, the restrictions are that you may not have more than 1 non-EC extra than you had last year. So a team with 3 non-eu players can only have 4 the following year and a team with 11 can have 12. You can sell to free up places, you can but as many non-ec players as you like as long as you free up spaces, I don't know if getting an EU passport would count but I see no reason why not. This onbviously can make the whole process quite hard to follow as teams often have lots of non EU players in the reserves and stuff so they can be released to bring in a big name brazilian or argentinian.
Warro Bantan
10-08-2005, 10:23
From: http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/aug10d.html
Cicinho reveals Milan desire
Wednesday 10 August, 2005
Brazilian international full-back Cicinho has admitted that he dreams about joining Italian giants Milan.
"I want to play in Italy," he told the Gazzetta dello Sport newspaper. "It has been my dream since I was a child.
"I would like to join Milan. They are the strongest side in Europe. But there are also Inter and Juventus and I often speak to Adriano and Emerson about them."
The Sao Paulo player is widely considered as Marcos Cafu’s heir in the national side, and he could also eventually replace him at the San Siro too.
"My friend Cafu is already at Milan," continued the right-back, who is currently in Italy waiting for an Italian passport.
"He is my idol and it is an honour for me to be considered as his heir. It would be extraordinary to take his place in the Milan side but why couldn’t we play together?"
Although he recently extended his contract with his South American club until 2008, he could join an Italian outfit in January.
He has a buy-out clause in his contract for £11m but sources in the peninsula suggest he could be netted for as little as £6m.
Sounds like the Milan transfer window may very well open in January, or if not, we may get him in the summer...at least I very much hope so..
hitmannq8
10-08-2005, 10:54
Great news. Anyone here think we can get Oddo for a 1 year loan?
Milan3869
10-08-2005, 14:58
no! :tired:
Dr Milano
10-08-2005, 16:20
Great news. Anyone here think we can get Oddo for a 1 year loan?
Nah prefer to buy him
Kaka`[22]
11-08-2005, 05:56
Cicinho is going to Manchester for talks.
rumours or Ac Milan wont sign him?
zlatanov
11-08-2005, 06:07
don't really care - if he is such a prick one day to hail Milan and speak of playing for us but only from next year, while the very next day he goes to Manchester, well, then he'd better don't come here. He would feel right at home in Manureville ... in Milan he won't like it for it is a place for real men only.
He is close to becoming a man utd player,as no player goes to a club of nothing has been agreed
I don't know mates.... 2 days ago I read that Oddo was very near, yesterday I saw that Cicinho bought a house in Italy and that he wants to join us because we're the best and there is Cafu, now this United thing...
It seems that San Paolo have a clause of 12M euros which United are ready to pay and Milan not.
Where abouts in Italy has he bought a house?
I've also seen on croatian tv that man utd are closing in on cicinho. But, its clear that he would prefere milan. Problem is, milan wont spent 12mil for him. And man utd has the first option on sao paolo players.... If we really want him, we should do something now!! And if cafu says he is good- he is good!
Man utd have agreed a deal,only personal terms left
zlatanov
11-08-2005, 09:40
where did you get that? any RELIABLE sources? So far all that has been reported is that there were negotiations ... This being said, I would still prefer Oddo as a Cafu-sub.
where did you get that? any RELIABLE sources? So far all that has been reported is that there were negotiations ... This being said, I would still prefer Oddo as a Cafu-sub.
Its on the Sao Paulo official website that utd have agreed a deal for cicinho,and they made an offer that they simply couldnt refuse
zlatanov
11-08-2005, 10:07
There is nothing conclusive there too - all it says is that IF ManU pay Cicinho's buy-out clause - $12 mil US - there would be nothing they, Sao Paulo, could do to keep him. This is the very latest I could find on the official Sao Paulo site: http://www.saopaulofc.com.br/news.php?cod=19242
The same piece of news is available on www.tgcom.it/sport and www.calciomercato.com, as well as several other sites. This is about it for now - nothing has been decided yet.
Dr Milano
11-08-2005, 10:22
oh well lets turn our attention to Lazio ' s right back Massimo Oddo he is great right back too
Well there goes cicinho..... ****!! Now we NEED oddo.
Hasan Rossonero
11-08-2005, 10:56
I prefer Oddo over Cicinho. One of the biggest advantages Oddo has over Cicinho is Serie A experience.
And ofcourse the more Italians the better.
Warro Bantan
11-08-2005, 11:04
The Guardian (http://football.guardian.co.uk/rumourmill/index/0,1451,1547046,00.html) is reporting that Man U are now after "our" Brazilian...
He's got more money than a million Rumour Mills and more medals than a warmongering general, but one thing Gary Neville will never have, no matter how hard he tries, is a proper moustache. But that's not his fault, unlike many of the goals Manchester United concede.
Now it seems Old Trafford chief Sir Alex of Purplecheeks has, just a week after getting rid of Neville the Younger, finally seen what he perceives to be the error of Neville the Elder's ways and is on the verge of signing swashbuckling Sao Paolo full-back Cicinho as a replacement. The 25 year-old South American has the steel of Gabriel Heinze, the speed of Ronaldo, the set-piece panache of David Beckham and, as far as Neville's days as an automatic starter are concerned, the scythe of the Grim Reaper.
While the article appears flippant, I am not so sure that what is being reported is far from the truth..if so, we have one more worry insofar as this transfer is concerned.
He would be given an automatic starting place, something we arent able to give him, but what we do have in our favour is his statment that he prefers Milan, and the plethora of Brazilians we already have in our squad, not to mention Cafu, his mentor.
So, this may be much ado about nothing, but I would HATE to see him go to GlazierUnited...
Man Utd chase Brazilian defender
Manchester United are keen to sign £7m-rated Brazilian right-back Cicinho, who BBC Sport understands has flown to England for talks at Old Trafford.
The 25-year-old Sao Paulo defender would not require a work permit as he qualifies for a European passport through his Italian grandfather.
A Sao Paulo spokesman said: "Cicinho is in Europe and must be negotiating with a club because his agent is with him.
"But there hasn't been any offer made to Sao Paulo."
However, club president Marcelo Gouvea revealed he would sell Cicinho - at the right price.
He told O Globo TV: "I will do everything to keep the player at Sao Paulo but if the English were to pay £6.68m ($12m) for his transfer there is nothing I can do to keep him."
Milan and Juventus have also been tracking Cicinho, who is tipped to replace Cafu in the national team.
But United seem in pole position to sign the player on a four-year deal.
Cicinho has been capped by Brazil six times and was impressive during the recent Confederations Cup.
Should he join United, it could signal the end for Gary Neville, whose brother Phil left the club to join Everton last week.
And it may go some way to appease fans concerned there is no money for transfers following Malcolm Glazer's takeover.I still think that Milan needs him more than United does...:rollani:
No.. We only need him as a sub.. Man Utd want him to start instead of one of the Nevilles..
']No.. We only need him as a sub.. Man Utd want him to start instead of one of the Nevilles..There is only one Niville left already :(. And the one who is left - Garra is irreplacable.
Cafu is quite old, so I have doubts that he would end like a starter at the end of season if Cicinho will be his sub ;)
Warro Bantan
11-08-2005, 11:37
This is really alarming news, and I would really be disappointed if we were to allow the ManUBroncos to get this player.
I can well understand that:
a) he wants a guaranteed first team place in a pre-world cup season
b) Man U can offer that, and are desparate to appease their fans and
c) that he would have to fight for a place with Cafu..
but the bottom line is, there arent that many good wingbacks that we can access, and Cafu doesnt have any replacement at this point..
I hope Galliani wakes up, and smells the roses, coffee, or smelling salts...we need to get this player..(or is it just that I wouldnt want him at the ManUJets?) as he is really the best replacement for Cafu...
I can well understand that:
a) he wants a guaranteed first team place in a pre-world cup season
b) Man U can offer that, and are desparate to appease their fans and
c) that he would have to fight for a place with Cafu..I totaly disagree with that... firstly I bet Garra is much more competetive rival that Cafu [mainly cuz of his age]. And secondly Garra has a sub already - Wesley Brown.
Stezagud
11-08-2005, 11:52
Utd have no great need for him, he is better attacking than Neville but not as good defensively and i can hardly see Ronaldo covering for him if he charges down the wing ;) Because of that i dont see he would have a guarenteed place at Utd either.
from a Utd point of view i see this move like the potential Owen one, if they happen so be it but if they dont then i wont mind either, i'd prefer a central midfielder. From what i've read and heard it is just a case of Utd wanting to get a closer look at him, they arent necesarily going to bid but obviously as they have first option on all Sao Paolo players they want to know if he is worth the attentions of Juve and Milan If they let him go and he went on to become as good as Cafu there would be plenty of people wanting to know why.
Stezagud
11-08-2005, 11:54
I totaly disagree with that... firstly I bet Garra is much more competetive rival that Cafu [mainly cuz of his age]. And secondly Garra has a sub already - Wesley Brown.
exactly, with Ronaldo's tendency to float all over the pitch it would be risky to get a right back who pushes forward too much. Neville may not be a flashy player but he is very solid.
Cicinho could well be deployed at RW for Man Utd..
Damn, cant believe we are losing out on a player to Man Utd.. :(
Thats sad
Warro Bantan
11-08-2005, 12:22
I totaly disagree with that... firstly I bet Garra is much more competetive rival that Cafu [mainly cuz of his age]. :haha:
No...:haha: really..that is funny..comparing Gary Neville to Cafu is like...:haha: words fail me...
Please, Gary Neville cant clean Cafu´s shoes..much less walk in them...so being a more competitive rival...:haha:....ur killin me..
And secondly Garra has a sub already - Wesley Brown.
Good point..but isnt Sir Alex of Purplecheeks using him as a CB?
Il capitano
11-08-2005, 12:37
Forget about cicinho theres no way that Galliani and Co will match man utds price.
Now they will presumably turn their attention to oddo or bonera.
:haha:
No...:haha: really..that is funny..comparing Gary Neville to Cafu is like...:haha: words fail me...
Please, Gary Neville cant clean Cafu´s shoes..much less walk in them...so being a more competitive rival...:haha:....ur killin me..
I think he meant that for Cicinho, Neville is a more competitive rival for RB. Whereas if Cicinho were to compete straight with Cafu, we all know who wins hands down ;)
devoted_dm
11-08-2005, 14:53
Didn't Cicinho say that he was going to stay in Brazil until next summer? I believe I read an interview with him where he stated that he didn't want to leave Brazil because he wanted to increase his chances of playing in the world cup.
However, if he joins Man Utd instead of us, it's his loss. He was correct when he stated that we are the strongest team in Europe, so he's missing out on a great opportunity if he joins Man Utd. We would also offer him a much better chance to evolve as a player, because the Serie A is more demanding for defenders than the Premier League.
Honestly, I don't think we need a right back at this point in time. We have Cafu, and Jankulovski has stated that he would be willing to play as a right back if Carlo wants him to. This solution will be more than adequate for the coming season, but next summer we need to get a new, young and talented right back.
Warro Bantan
11-08-2005, 15:13
']I think he meant that for Cicinho, Neville is a more competitive rival for RB. Whereas if Cicinho were to compete straight with Cafu, we all know who wins hands down ;)
Ok, I will swallow my laughter if thats what he meant... :kap:
hitmannq8
11-08-2005, 16:36
What a little prick! yesterday he said he prefers Milan and Italy.. and NEXT DAY he´s in Manchester discussing a deal!!!!! What a prick!
I still think we need Cicinho alot. Although if his clause is 12m dollars we shouldnt go for him. 6m is enough.
:haha:
No...:haha: really..that is funny..comparing Gary Neville to Cafu is like...:haha: words fail me...
Please, Gary Neville cant clean Cafu´s shoes..much less walk in them...so being a more competitive rival...:haha:....ur killin me..Cafu is not a defender actually... he is a real winger, just like R Carlos or Riise. The same thing is about Cicinho. And we are talking about defenders who ues to defend and not only attack. Garra is the one I am talking about. He is a lot better defender than Cafu.It does not mean he is better player though.Good point..but isnt Sir Alex of Purplecheeks using him as a CB?Yup. But IMO it is foolish. Just like Smith in Keano place :mute: BTW, I guess O'Shea can play RB too. Am I right?
Anyway, I still stand for an idea that Cicinho is much more useful for Milan than. Just because United has quite strong wingers Giggsy, Ronaldo. Hence they need a defender who use to defend and not to attack like a midfielder... :rollani:United eye Milan target
Manchester United are reportedly in talks with Milan target Cicinho. The Brazilian right-back is seen by the Italian club as a long-term replacement for Marcos Cafu, but their plans appear to have been sabotaged by the Old Trafford outfit. Cicinho, who does not require a work permit as he will soon have an EU passport, is likely to cost £8m from Sao Paulo. Milan are expected to turn their attention to Lazio’s Massimo Oddo if they fail to sign the South American.
I read somewhere that Sao Paulo denied any offer has been received.
Sao Paulo will not accept anything below his asking price it seems..
Sao Paulo has strong links with man utd
yeah.. if im not mistaken they have first option on all Sao Paulo players :(
sehnsucht79
12-08-2005, 07:21
Tribalfootball but still
Man Utd to offer Cicinho £50,000-a-week to ward off AC Milan
tribalfootball.com - August 12, 2005
Manchester United are ready to offer Sao Paulo defender Cicinho a £50,000-a-week contract to see off rivals Juventus and AC Milan for his signature.
The Guardian says Cicinho's highly impressive performances in helping Brazil to win the Confederations Cup persuaded United boss Sir Alex Ferguson to invite him to Old Trafford on Wednesday to look around the stadium and the club's training facilities at Carrington.
United are acting on information that Cicinho and his agent Juliano Leonel are understood to have visited Milan and Turin over the last few weeks for talks about a move to Serie A.
Ferguson is optimistic of exploiting a get-out clause in Cicinho's contract to tie up a deal worth £8 million.
sehnsucht79
12-08-2005, 07:24
lateral-direito Cicinho deve acertar nesta sexta-feira sua saída do São Paulo. O jogador se reúne pela manhã com a diretoria e deve apresentar a proposta que ouviu dos dirigentes do Manchester United, na quarta, na Inglaterra. "Se o Cicinho conseguir o passaporte italiano até o dia 31 (data-limite para negociações no futebol europeu) e os ingleses pagarem o que estamos pedindo, o Cicinho vai embora", disse Juvenal Juvêncio, diretor de Futebol. O lateral, cuja multa contratual é de US$ 12 milhões, também teria sondagens do Milan e da Juventus, da Itália.
Em julho, Cicinho renovou contrato até 2008 com o São Paulo, que detém 60% dos seus direitos econômicos. O Manchester precisa apenas pagar US$ 7,2 milhões para ficar com o lateral da seleção brasileira. "Esse processo é inevitável, mas os ingleses poderiam ter tido outra postura: ao invés de negociar conosco, procuraram o jogador e seu empresário", criticou Juvenal.
O dirigente avisou que o técnico Paulo Autuori terá de se virar para encontrar um substituto. "Tentei trazer o Ânderson Lima, mas o Albirex Niigata (do Japão) não quis liberá-lo", revelou. "Vamos ter de usar o Souza na posição".
Juvenal também confirmou que o atacante Diego Tardelli está afastado do elenco, pois teria propostas do futebol da Ucrânia e da Itália. "Ele sabe jogar, mas não estava tendo a aplicação devida. Até dia 31, terá sua situação resolvida".
Mão-de-ferro - Juvenal afirmou que precisou jogar duro com alguns atletas depois da Copa Libertadores. "Tivemos de dar um reajuste salarial ao Júnior, pois ele tinha uma proposta de US$ 2 milhões do futebol japonês", contou. "O Fabão implorou para sair, pois tinha uma oferta do Bourdeaux, da França. Aumentei seu salário e só vou liberá-lo no fim do ano".
Depois da derrota para o Figueirense, por 3 a 1, na quarta, Juvenal teve uma conversa muito dura com o elenco. "As coisas estão ficando ruins", disse. "Estamos perdendo os jogos por falta de competência". Pelo menos o goleiro reserva Roger Noronha entendeu o recado: afirmou que não pensa mais em sair - teria proposta do Santos - e foi reintegrado ao elenco. "Em 15 dias, coloco esse time na linha novamente", garante Juvenal.
sehnsucht79
12-08-2005, 08:43
Good video of Cicinho, dont know if its been posted before, but what the hell.
http://www.tricolormania.com.br/gols/cicinho.wmv
hitmannq8
12-08-2005, 12:02
unfortunately, we seem to have lost Cicinho.. but i have a tiny bit of hope for us to get him.. and even if we dont, i think we will go for Oddo
grrr, can´t the press just ask Galliani already is our transfer market closed or not?
hitmannq8
12-08-2005, 12:30
Il San Paolo ha confermato, attraverso il direttore sportivo Juvental Juvenicio, la trattativa in corso con il Manchester United per Cicinho. "Se Cicinho prenderà la nazionalità italiana a partire dal 31 agosto e i 'Red Devils' pagheranno la cifra che abbiamo chiesto come clausola rescissoria, lo faremo partire", ha dichiarato. Il brasiliano dunque dovrebbe approdare al Manchester alla fine del mese. Delusione in casa milanistra: i rossoneri infatti fino a pochi giorni fa erano i più accreditati ad aggiudicarsi il giocatore.
from calciomercato.com
Warro Bantan
12-08-2005, 12:43
Cafu is not a defender actually... he is a real winger, just like R Carlos or Riise. The same thing is about Cicinho. And we are talking about defenders who ues to defend and not only attack. Garra is the one I am talking about. He is a lot better defender than Cafu.It does not mean he is better player though.Yup. But IMO it is foolish. Just like Smith in Keano place :mute: BTW, I guess O'Shea can play RB too. Am I right? :dontkn: really dont know rae..u got me there..
rae, let me try to understand what you are posting here..r u saying that Cafu isnt a right back, as in a defender that plays closest to the right touchline? Please dont tell Carlo this...or maybe you should...this way he is sure to get a Gary Neville type...oh wait..on second thought, DONT tell him, I would hate to see anyone remotely resembling that bufoon Neville anywhere near Milanello, much less in Milan colours.
So indeed, you are saying that Neville is a better RB than Cafu...who is really a winger...which means that we have been playing with a three man back line for as long as Cafu has been here...and now we have Carlo telling us that he is going to "try out" a three man back line? Rubbish! He is trying to trick us! With Cafu on the pitch, he (according to the world of rae) he must have been using the 3 man defense for years!!!
But seriously, RCarlos is a left back (defender) who (as most Brazilians tend to do) rampages forward at every opportunity..this does not a winger make...at least in the world according to Bantan...Riise on the other hand...he plays more like a winger in truth, but I dont kno enuf about Liverfool or Riise to give an educated opinion..so maybe Riise is the exception that proves the rule.
However, in the future please dont put Cafu and Neville in the same sentence again, unless you are saying something like: Neville isnt fit to clean Cafu´s jock strap or something of the sort...you have been watching waaaay too much EPL my friend. :D
PS No hard feelings, but I really was rolling when you compared Cafu to Neville...there is no comparison compadre...:D Cafu is not only a better player, but when he decides to defend, is a better defender than Neville with his hands tied behind his back, and using only his left foot, while hobbling on crutches. :u125:
Stezagud
12-08-2005, 13:36
i always considered Cafu to be a wing-back, his style of play is what allows Milan to switch into an unnofficial 3-5-2 during matches, with Gattuso's right midfield role designed to cover Cafu's forward runs. He can of course play as a standard Rightback or as a genuine winger too :)
Its also because of Gattuso's covering role that i think Cicinho has more of a role at Milan than Utd. Utd play Ronaldo on the right and an attacking full back behind him would be almost suicidal. At Milan though Cicinho could attack at will and know that Gattuso will cover for him.
As for Gary Neville he is a lot better than you give him credit for (with the medal haul, international caps and Utd appearance record to back that up ;) ) he isnt flashy and doesnt do tricks, he just does his job and every team needs players like that :cool:
Warro Bantan
12-08-2005, 14:26
I agree with most of your post Stezagud, with the exception of :hah2:
As for Gary Neville he is a lot better than you give him credit for (with the medal haul, international caps and Utd appearance record to back that up ;) ) he isnt flashy and doesnt do tricks, he just does his job and every team needs players like that :cool:
If his job is conceding goals through mistakes...then Gary is your man alright...but insofar as every team needing one of him...cant agree with you there..he must be one of the worst....wing backs, RBs, whatever you want to call him...that I have seen play the professional game...and as Henrik says...that is my opinion...cant expect everyone to agree with me. :D
He may be able to make Man U´s starting line up, but he couldnt make Perugia´s reserve team IMO. He is as worthless as they come.
:dontkn: really dont know rae..u got me there..
rae, let me try to understand what you are posting here..r u saying that Cafu isnt a right back, as in a defender that plays closest to the right touchline? Please dont tell Carlo this...or maybe you should...this way he is sure to get a Gary Neville type...oh wait..on second thought, DONT tell him, I would hate to see anyone remotely resembling that bufoon Neville anywhere near Milanello, much less in Milan colours.
So indeed, you are saying that Neville is a better RB than Cafu...who is really a winger...which means that we have been playing with a three man back line for as long as Cafu has been here...and now we have Carlo telling us that he is going to "try out" a three man back line? Rubbish! He is trying to trick us! With Cafu on the pitch, he (according to the world of rae) he must have been using the 3 man defense for years!!!
But seriously, RCarlos is a left back (defender) who (as most Brazilians tend to do) rampages forward at every opportunity..this does not a winger make...at least in the world according to Bantan...Riise on the other hand...he plays more like a winger in truth, but I dont kno enuf about Liverfool or Riise to give an educated opinion..so maybe Riise is the exception that proves the rule.
However, in the future please dont put Cafu and Neville in the same sentence again, unless you are saying something like: Neville isnt fit to clean Cafu´s jock strap or something of the sort...you have been watching waaaay too much EPL my friend. :D
PS No hard feelings, but I really was rolling when you compared Cafu to Neville...there is no comparison compadre...:D Cafu is not only a better player, but when he decides to defend, is a better defender than Neville with his hands tied behind his back, and using only his left foot, while hobbling on crutches. :u125:I can agree with you on everything partly... but about one thing is too much - I havent seen EPL more than Serie A... basically I havent watched too many football in recent years cuz of my stupid country :faint:
Anyway, as a milanista you will be always right to say Cafu is the best. I will not try to convince you contrary. However remember that some guys have other opinion which can be well based and defended ;)
Now it looks like this.... its clear that jankulovsky is ready and fit. And Carlo asked him to sometimes play on tre right, and he will. Its clear that milan ddoesnt want to spend more money this year and that is why we are not signing cicinho right now. We are not getting oddo becouse when cafu doesnt play we will play 3-5-2 with serginho and jankulovsky on wings. And we actually dont need a backup for cafu ( aldough I disagree with that club politics). Juve wants Cassano, they will get him, its now even a question.
juve wont be up for cicinho, Milan wants him, and we will wait untill next year and maybe do some " off record " talks with him. So it is like it has always been....galliani & moggi are spinning it!!!! :beer:
sehnsucht79
12-08-2005, 22:23
I think MU are more likely competitors for Cicinho than Juve is, though Id be glad to have Cicinho I think Juve are more interested in other options.
Milan3869
12-08-2005, 22:25
you're right mrki, now that ancelotti will try the 3-5-2 formation, we really dont need a sub for cafu right now. ive always loved this formation, gives the team more scoring chances....and with great defenders in the back, no worry of counter attacks...the only problem lies if we play against a speedy forward, in that case i guess ancelotti will go back to the 4-4-2 formation...peace!! :firedev:
I agree with most of your post Stezagud, with the exception of :hah2:
If his job is conceding goals through mistakes...then Gary is your man alright...but insofar as every team needing one of him...cant agree with you there..he must be one of the worst....wing backs, RBs, whatever you want to call him...that I have seen play the professional game...and as Henrik says...that is my opinion...cant expect everyone to agree with me. :D
He may be able to make Man U´s starting line up, but he couldnt make Perugia´s reserve team IMO. He is as worthless as they come.
i for one disagree... i hate manure and england but id always start neville there for both teams, hes a solid RB
i for one disagree... i hate manure and england but id always start neville there for both teams, hes a solid RBtotally agreed on the last part of yer post :tong: :v103: :mex:
totti_jonaid
14-08-2005, 10:12
I heard about Milan being interested in signing the Brazilian RB Cicinho possibly as a cover for Cafu. Now in the first place is this a rumor or is it the reality? If anyone of u knows please let me know. If it is true then what about Massimo Oddo he was suppose to join our Squad.
I would like to also admit here that in my personal opinion if we are really looking for a RB Giorgos Seitaridis of Greece and FC Porto would be a wonderful signing. He is as good as anyone and above all he is only 24 and can be a very good solution for our aging defense.
I am sorry if I sound a little bit awkward because I did not had access of Internet since last month. So I am a little out of touch of the entire latest news etc.
Nothing official has come out saying we want either Oddo or Cicinho. But if you just read either of the threads about these players, you would have found that out yourself :p286:
Seitaridis doesn't play for Porto anymore, i think he's moved to CSKA Moscow, or a club in Russia at least.
although not official news or anything, but Cicinho's name is constantly mentioned by the official website ;)
you're right mrki, now that ancelotti will try the 3-5-2 formation, we really dont need a sub for cafu right now.
off course we need. Do you think that Cafu will be able to handle that role alone for a whole season? and if he gets injured? and if he's tired?
On the left we have Kaladze, Jankulovsky & Serginho while on the right there's only Cafu. Please forget about Stam, Costacurta Simic etc etc
Stezagud
14-08-2005, 13:26
i respect your opinion Warro but i disagree with it, he's been first choice for both club and country for 10 years, if he was half as bad as you suggest then surely Utd would just have splashed out on a replacement years ago. We wont change each others minds so i guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this :cheers:
sehnsucht79
15-08-2005, 05:10
wheres the mega merger
Warro Bantan
15-08-2005, 09:50
Stezagud, rae and mk18...lets do just that: Agree to disagree...I for one am always up for a debate, but if my arguments dont prove persuasuve enough, then hey, I can live with that as well.
Neville for you is a good/excellent Right back, while to me, Cafu is the definition of the position...but thats the world for you, there will be somethings that we just cant agree on..
At least we agree that we love Milan..and that is good enuf for me!:D
Stezagud
15-08-2005, 12:15
Agreed, lets get back to the topic, can/will Cicinho replace Cafu??
In a 3-5-2 with wingbacks i think he can, but i wouldnt want Cicinho as an orthodox RB.
now back to the cricket for me :)
Warro Bantan
15-08-2005, 15:34
Agreed, lets get back to the topic, can/will Cicinho replace Cafu??
In a 3-5-2 with wingbacks i think he can, but i wouldnt want Cicinho as an orthodox RB.
I would love to see him in Milan...wherever he plays..so to answer your question, then yes...he can...will he...?Ask Galliani...
I merged the "are we really looking for a RB" thread into this one, as it related to Cicinho.
hitmannq8
20-08-2005, 08:50
Ancelotti has stated on acmilan.com that Cicinho will not be coming to Milan and that if there are available Italian RBs, we will go for them first.
sehnsucht79
20-08-2005, 21:54
Oddo maybe? Only thing that if Tudor goes to Lazio, (which leaves only Kovac as a replacement) Juventus might look into getting Oddo for an exchange.
i hope its zaccardo or bonera
i like zaccardo but he was horrible vs ireland... my first choice has always been oddo and i will stick by it
Milan3869
21-08-2005, 16:06
being a world cup year, i doubt it if oddo or bonera want to come to milan and be second choice...these guys wanna play so they can get called up to the national team!!
Brasileiro
23-08-2005, 10:30
Sao Paulo President(Marcelo P. Gouveia) said in Brazilian television(right now) that Cicinho will be Real Madrid player in January...i don´t have link, but I ,m watching his press conference right now!!
thats f*cked up. why the hell Real Madrid? ****
Brasileiro
23-08-2005, 10:53
']thats f*cked up. why the hell Real Madrid? ****
I agree...They have M. Salgado and C. Diogo for rb position...
and it being so sudden! what a low blow.. haha
Brasileiro
23-08-2005, 11:17
']and it being so sudden! what a low blow.. haha
Man, here in Brasil, when they talk about Cicinho, it´s only Milan or M. United...hehe
But it is true... take a look at Real Madrid's web page...
GilAttack [11]
23-08-2005, 12:54
Why didnt Milan work to have that priority? Theres no doubt that he will be playing for Real next year. You cant compare Cicinho to Diogo. Obviously, once Real adds Cicinho they will be even weaker at the defensive end.
that's really unexpected. but i doubt that he will strengthen real madrid, if not weaken. to be honest, if cafu was in REal madrid, they would be screwed too. real madrid can't afford that type of player. we can. when you have stam, nesta and maldini covering your back, cafu and janku can obviously do whatever they want. :)
Sao Paulo President(Marcelo P. Gouveia) said in Brazilian television(right now) that Cicinho will be Real Madrid player in January...i don´t have link, but I ,m watching his press conference right now!!
http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=301384&cpid=23&CLID=&lid=10&title=Real+steal+in+for+Cicinho&channel=spain
http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/real_madrid_sao_paulo_fc_25210.htm
Warro Bantan
23-08-2005, 15:16
From the Guardian:
Real agree deal for Cicinho
Brazilian could move to Spain in January
Staff and agencies
Tuesday August 23, 2005
Real Madrid have reached an agreement with Sao Paulo over the future transfer of Brazil full-back Cicinho.
The Spanish giants have the option to buy Cicinho, according to the club's website, and the 25-year-old could move during the January transfer window.
"Real Madrid, by means of this option, have the freedom to sign the player or not in the future if it considers it opportune," read a statement on Real Madrid's website.
Cicinho, who has been linked with Manchester United, Juventus and AC Milan this summer, is currently finalising the paperwork to get Italian nationality.
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"Being signed by such a great team like Real Madrid is the result of all the good work I've been making in my career," Cicinho said.
"This agreement is good for all the parties - me, my managers and the Sao Paulo board. I'm delighted," he added.
In the meantime, Cicinho hopes he can help Sao Paulo escape from the relegation zone in the Brazilian league.
He added: "The is the time to think about Sao Paulo and I'm sure they will leave these bad moments. Real Madrid will come in January."
Well well well...I guess its Oddo or nothing for us now....:sigh: what a potentially profligate move..or lack of movement by Milan...this is ridiculous, unless we sign Oddo, or somebody else...:moan: and I was so looking forward to see this dude play for us, but if Carlo is to be held to his word, he did state that Milan were looking for an Italian option in that position, and though somewhat xenophobic, I can see the logic behind such a decision...
Well this really sucks.... Cicinho was a real player for RWB, and now he is in real. Too bad... now I want Oddo & Chivu!!
Dr Milano
23-08-2005, 17:22
Dont matter Cicinho can go Milan can get oddo is nothing less great player too and chivu it would be bonus but i doubt chivu will ever come .
Where are all the rumors about Mesto? Haven't even heard any recently....
Cicinho isnt a honest man in my books.
First he said he wants to play for Milan, Braida meets him.
The next day, he betrays Braida and he goes to Manchester and chats with Ferguson about a transfer.
All of the sudden, now he betrays Sir Alex and signs for Real Madrid. I hope he doesnt do well there and doesnt get called up for the World Cup. Shows you what type of a person he is.
shevagol_7
23-08-2005, 22:27
']Cicinho isnt a honest man in my books.
First he said he wants to play for Milan, Braida meets him.
The next day, he betrays Braida and he goes to Manchester and chats with Ferguson about a transfer.
All of the sudden, now he betrays Sir Alex and signs for Real Madrid. I hope he doesnt do well there and doesnt get called up for the World Cup. Shows you what type of a person he is.
I wouldn't be so harsh on Cicinho. I know right now you are feeling a little betrayed by this transfer, but I really don't think Milan were ever serious about signing him. It seemed to me that they were was any genuine interest. He did state that he wanted to come to Milan but there was no offer. As for betraying Ferguson I don't really care but I'm sure for Cicinho Real was to hard to turn down.
Anyway don't worry if Cicinho makes the World Cup squad he will be on the bench taking lessons from Cafu'. :de3:
why would Braida meet him if Milan werent interested?
']why would Braida meet him if Milan werent interested?
I am sure that we were interested, but we may not be very serious. Like many have pointed out, Galliani and co. may consider too much on financial side. :moan:
Many Brazilian players' contract have such a clause that a certain percentage of transfer fee will go to the player's pocket. If it is also true with Cicinho, and let's assume that he loves money than Milan, of course he wants to join a team that will pay the highest amount of transfer fee, which is obviously not our style. :dconf: :hmm2:
Of course we love Kaka' and Gilardino, :heart: who paid out of their own pockets to come to Milan; but we can't demand every other player to do that.
It is Cicinho's loss that he can't come to play for us; I couldn't care less. I am always addicted to have young Italian talents in our group. ;) So, even though I rated him very highly and wouldn't at all mind seeing him in red and black, I wouldn't shed any tear either over this news. :bright: :sagrin: :sagrin:
hitmannq8
24-08-2005, 14:30
Such a little prick, I really hoped he would come to Milan, but now, after what he said about joining Real, I dont want to even think of him joining Milan ever again. What a prick.
shevagol_7
24-08-2005, 16:18
']why would Braida meet him if Milan werent interested?
Braida may have met him but I doubt any official bid was made.
thank god for this... i was never convinced of him ... oddo is solid though
We allegedly made a bid for Oddo six weeks ago, with an amount that Lazio regarded as "unacceptable". :rollani: :rollani: I wonder how low that could be. ;) 900,000 euros? :sagrin: :D
Galliani just hates splashing out money.. :yawn: :nasty:
Milan3869
24-08-2005, 20:15
do you think oddo will want to come and play for milan...considering he wont start and this is a world cup year??...i doubt it
if thats the case NO right back will want to come to Milan..
most of them would prefer Juve who has Zebina at RB.. :rolleyes:
Dr Milano
25-08-2005, 05:54
[QUOTE=shevagol_7]I wouldn't be so harsh on Cicinho. [QUOTE=i would he is a baste*d i hate him a lot he is liar he can stay with real i never want him at milan
Hasan Rossonero
25-08-2005, 07:42
From the Guardian:
Well well well...I guess its Oddo or nothing for us now....:sigh: what a potentially profligate move..or lack of movement by Milan...this is ridiculous, unless we sign Oddo, or somebody else...:moan: and I was so looking forward to see this dude play for us, but if Carlo is to be held to his word, he did state that Milan were looking for an Italian option in that position, and though somewhat xenophobic, I can see the logic behind such a decision...
Xenophobic!?!!? A harsh word choice.
Italian players are cheaper in that position and have Serie A experience. I think Carletto is making the right choice.
Warro Bantan
25-08-2005, 10:00
True Hasan..I might have used a term that is a bit harsh there, but maybe I just learned the word, and wanted an opportunity to use it! :D
In all seriousness though, I think there is some level of prefrence for Italian/European defenders in Italy...I could be wrong...but its just an observation.
Clearly though, there are advantages in having experienced, Italian defenders in the starting 11, as this prevents...or should prevent communication errors..usually fatal in that third of the pitch.
So though my terminology was "harsh" I think we do agree that maybe Cicinho wasnt the best choice for us...after all, how many Cafus can Brazil produce?
We will need another RB soon, but not this season unless there are injuries (hopefully not)... Braida just said we're full... look at official website
Is it time to close this thread already? ;)
It still amazes me that this thread last so long ... :D
pirlo2004
07-09-2005, 11:25
I don't know if there has been anything put on here as i've not been on for a while, but i just read that Cicinho has signed for Real Madrid, and he will join them in January, the reason for the Salgado - Juve link (footballitalia.com)
Is it true?
If so we missed out big time here people as Real Madrid are starting to look good again and i think they will also sign Joaquin and Vicente in the next year or so to bolster there ageing midfield.........
Once again if this has been discussed please point me to where
:5horse:
hitmannq8
16-12-2005, 01:28
I think its this prick's blood to be a traitor!
He recently stated that he would love to go to Fiorentina! And no other club "less" than Real Madrid!
slicknick
16-12-2005, 16:45
Italian players are cheaper in that position and have Serie A experience. I think Carletto is making the right choice.
I agree, although Cicinho looks better on TV...Then again I have not heard good things about his personality either. So, it would make a lot more sense to opt for a cheaper and more reliable Italian
FYI, footballitalia.com is not a very reliable source of information.
Just back at some of their other "news" and you will find out they only distract with rumors, or invent them.
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