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the biggest mistake was selliing coloccini to deportivo.he was a future contender for the centre back position after good ol' paolo decides to hang up his boots :moan: also we should have bought chivu from ajax before roma.what do u say?
:beach:
Warro Bantan
29-06-2005, 12:32
That is a big one k7r...but I dont know if its the biggest...let me think some more, and get back to you....
Usually we dont make mistakes....unless rivaldo (who came on a free) is included...but the players we sell, are usually not mistakes...lets see...Bierhoff, Helveg, Coco...yup, Colo seems the biggest that I can recall...
The biggest mistake concerning Coloccini (imo) was that Milan didn't sell him much earlier. Years ago I think we had a 15m dollar offer for him, now we got 4m...
Redondo was probably the biggest mistake given his injuries, but hindsight is 20/20. Kluivert, Bogarde, Reitziger, Andersson rank high in my books too.
vickirin
29-06-2005, 14:18
Bigger than getting Redondo ?
zlatanov
29-06-2005, 14:55
what happened to Redondo was something that couldn't be forseen and had nothing to do with him failing to make in the Serie A - both club and player were simply unlucky in Redondo's case. I honestly don't see how this could be considered a mistake in our transfer market.
As for Colo, I also think he should have been given more of a chance. All in all, I saw him as a very good defender who could definitely be part of Milan but don't think he possessed the skill/potential/talent to, one day, become a player of the calibre of Nesta, Maldini, young Bily, Stam. Moving to another club was possibly the best that could happen to Colo's career as for Milan, there are many, and inexpensive, defenders out there who are at least as good as Colo is or will ever be.
selling Patrick Veira looks like a bit of a mistake in hindsight.
Selling Coloccini was hardly a mistake in my opinion. He had his chances (not too many I had to admit, but that's our style. We can't afford that.), and he couldn't shine. I don't complain that we let him go. Maybe we could have earned a bit more, but money doesn't seem to be the priority in Milan family.
Our biggest mistakes in my opinion is we let Rijkaard go. I wonder whether we could have anything to keep him. He is a true champion and one that can single-handed carry a team to trophy. He was more important than MVB and Gullit.
zlatanov
29-06-2005, 15:39
selling Patrick Veira looks like a bit of a mistake in hindsight.
agree. and possibly Davids too.
For the rest we more or less got our money back when we sold them or when we paid big bucks for a player, he usually performed up to expectations - I am not counting cases like Redondo or Lentini, whose Milan careers were negatively affected by some very serious injuries.
zlatanov
29-06-2005, 15:47
Our biggest mistakes in my opinion is we let Rijkaard go. I wonder whether we could have anything to keep him.
If I remember correctly, Rijkaard sensed that the time for a change had come and it was him who wanted to leave, not long after Sacchi. There is no reason to try to keep a player, who, for one reason or another, isn't happy at the club any more. Plus, fulfilling his wish was the least we could do for someone who had given so much to the club.
He is a true champion and one that can single-handed carry a team to trophy. He was more important than MVB and Gullit.
Sacchi said something quite similar to that when asked who was the most valuable and important player in his Milan.
Roger Nolli
29-06-2005, 16:17
Collocini, terrible!
ginoformaggino
29-06-2005, 17:01
Collocini, terrible!
uffffff, this boring Coloccini... tonight how has he played? : some bad fouls as usual (another Ayala, maybe worst) Adriano made 2 goals,
but Colo missed one goal face to face with Dida,
he shut to the sky.
No way: no personality, no sense of position (he lost the beast when Cicinho crossed), an average defender, no regret!
selling Patrick Veira looks like a bit of a mistake in hindsight.
I agree with this, I still don't think selling Davids was a mistake, he was pure trouble when he was at Milanello
selling Patrick Veira looks like a bit of a mistake in hindsight.
We had to Vieira go, the bosman ruling was'nt out and our quota of foreigners was full, so we had to let the 17 yr old go.
What about letting desaily leave leave so early? he could have given us a few more extra years, maybe they had to, if he wanted to leave. and yes Christophe Duggary, what a waste. Same with Guly and Zenoni, he did'nt even play for us. lol
what about giovanni elber?! hes in the squad photo at the start of the 93/94 season and we let him go to grasshopper zurich.
we could have used him seeing as we only had massaro and savicevic in those days...
zlatanov
29-06-2005, 20:00
what about giovanni elber?! hes in the squad photo at the start of the 93/94 season and we let him go to grasshopper zurich.
we could have used him seeing as we only had massaro and savicevic in those days...
Elber has to be one of the biggest blunders up there ... we weren't patient enough with him.
the biggest mistake was selliing coloccini to deportivo.he was a future contender for the centre back position after good ol' paolo decides to hang up his boots :moan: also we should have bought chivu from ajax before roma.what do u say?
:beach:
Coloccini is not good enough for us.
I don't know why you mention Chivu when talking about transfer mistakes tough as we never bought nor sold him.
Javi Moreno comes to my mind.
I saw Coloccini yesterday against Brazil... Wow, he had MAJOR problems... He made about 70 free kicks or so... I also think he lacks the quality to succeed in Milan...
ZvonimirVukic
30-06-2005, 04:58
Definitly Vieira and Davids
what really shocked me was when i discovered people calling ayala a world class defender?!
he was dire for milan and i thought they may have been talking about the paraguyan, celso ayala, being world class as i could have never thuoght it meant roberto ayala.
i still dont know how he became worldclass, it was like he went to milan became poor disappeared from the public eye and then "bang" roberto ayala that worldclasss defender of valencia.....
Warro Bantan
30-06-2005, 09:52
I would agree that maybe Viera was the biggest blunder, but no one would have known then the player he would become...and would he have become that player for Milan? Maybe not...Wenger is fantastic at getting the most from players.
Javi Moreno...now he ranks up there..what a disappointment!! Not worth a penny of the money we spent..
Warro Bantan
30-06-2005, 10:03
That is a big one k7r...but I dont know if its the biggest...let me think some more, and get back to you....
Usually we dont make mistakes....unless rivaldo (who came on a free) is included...but the players we sell, are usually not mistakes...lets see...Bierhoff, Helveg, Coco...yup, Colo seems the biggest that I can recall...
After last nights performance in the finals of the Confed Cup...I retract my statement above completely! (well the part about Colo anyway)
While Roque Junior (against crappy Argentine forwards) looked impressive, and had the even more impressive Lucio in support, Coloccini was out of position, tackled poorly, conceded unnecessary freekicks, and was just plain and simple: AWFUL....wouldnt want him back in Milan at all.
Both Roque Junior and Coloccini were good riddances imo.
Both Roque Junior and Coloccini were good riddances imo.
Agreed, the only regret being their low transfer prices
Warro Bantan
30-06-2005, 10:47
Agreed, the only regret being their low transfer prices
Really though Henrik, with Colo, I agree we could have gotten in the teens (millions) for him, but for Roque Junior? We were begging someone to take him off our hands...thankfully, (Leverkusen?)someone did.. :clap:
zlatanov
30-06-2005, 12:45
"teens (miilions)" for Colo? And who would have paid them really? I agree that by not selling him immediately after his great season with Villareal, we lost on a some more cash for him but that would have been 2-3 mil US/euros and not in the "teens (millions)" - guys, it has been a while since trees stopped growing cash :sagrin:
Really though Henrik, with Colo, I agree we could have gotten in the teens (millions) for him, but for Roque Junior? We were begging someone to take him off our hands...thankfully, (Leverkusen?)someone did.. :clap:
I think we were offered in the range of 15m for Coloccini years ago and I think we could have gotten 10m+ for Roque Jr after the last World Cup. :moan:
zlatanov
30-06-2005, 14:49
I don't remember reading anything about such a high offer for Colo. And even if some merky website did report a 15 mil offer for him that could have easily been a "ghost" like 90% of all the "news" we read all over the place. My point is that had Milan indeed received such a lucrative offer for Colo, I honestly doubt that the managemnet would have not cashed on it on the second - after all, although Colo was/is a young player with potential, Milan never really seriously considered him Maldini's or Nesta's heir. If that were the case, Milan would have loaned Colo to a Serie A team and not to half the teams in Primera starting with a cashed-strapped Atletico M and ending with the Primera newbies Villareal, whose main goal was avoiding relegation. And then, if we counted on him so highly as to refuse a 15 mil offer, we wouldn't have gotten rifd of him after just half a season of unconvincing displays but would have given him more time and chances to prove himself.
As for Roque, I do agree that we miss a great chance to get more money for him after WC 2002 but back then we didn't exactly have an abundance of defenders as Nesta was still a Lazio player - and he became a Milan player in the very last day of the transfer window - and I am not sure if we already had even Simic with us, immediately after the WC. I guess this is why Milan decided to keep Roque for one more year as the 2002/2003 season was his last at Milan.
Roger Nolli
30-06-2005, 15:14
For me Collocini and Roque Jr are terrible players, look that I'm brazilian.
I do remember that some big money was offered for Colo, as pointed out by Henrik. Then again, I also remember the price tag of 88M dollars for Beckham in 1999 (the year we were interested in everybody including Becks and Rivaldo and finally we brought in Redondo as our president's "one of top five stars" project).
I have no remorse/regret at all for the departure of Coloccini. Rijkaard and Desailly were two players I hated to see them go. They parted with the club in a friendly fashion, but indeed, we could have used their services for a few more years. I really don't know whether anything could have been done to keep them, but I am just sad to see them go. :dontkn:
Good point Xudong, I had forgotten about Desailly. That was truely a bizarre transfer, we really needed good defenders at that point in time too.
Southernsun
30-06-2005, 17:00
davids was a mistake. he was not givin' playing time, and the coache(s) at the time did not give him any confidence either.......result? sold to juve, where he played, and was respected, thus become great.
bogard, kluivert, ziege, javi moreno, reizinger (sorry guys for my spelling) coloccini, roque jr. and among others were all flops, and have not heard of them since, except roque, and colo who are both young, and with national teams. viera, coco, ayala and davids, were all good prospects but were let go to premature, and were somewhat "mistakes". and all of them we still hear of, and are playing very well (except coco, injured).
dossantos22
01-07-2005, 09:12
Viera,Collocini,Dawids,Kluivert,Coco
I think we may be overlooking something that should be considered. No matter what success they have shown after the fact, is it fair to suggest that maybe these guys just were not right to play the "Milan" way??? I think two factors Milan looks in a player is one if they stand out clearly amongst other players. And two while being "standout" players, do they have the right mentality and even keeled ego to put the team above anything else. Having these two is a Milan must. While some players you folks here have mentioned clearly stood out above the rest of the pack, I think their ego was too big and troublesome for Milan to want. And for those who were willing to be team players, they really didnt stand out above our expectations i.e. Roque Jr and Brocchi and such.
vickirin
01-07-2005, 10:19
Coloccini is a butcher Ayala left milan and became the best defender in Spain , Colo goes to spain and becomes another defender
collocini was soooo crap... but i agree we shouldve sold him when his price tag was higher
what happened to Redondo was something that couldn't be forseen and had nothing to do with him failing to make in the Serie A - both club and player were simply unlucky in Redondo's case. I honestly don't see how this could be considered a mistake in our transfer market.
Actually Jean-Pierre Meerseman head of the medical department claimed he could have foreseen Redondo's injury. But back then they didn't test so thoroughly
in fact that particulary injury resulted that milanlab has been given the last and decesive word in any future transfer of milan and because of this the mistake won't be made again.
mistakes happen it's only a shame when you keep making the same mistake (for example inter)
shevaandkaka'
10-07-2005, 14:19
colo was crap
soooooooooooooooo crap
he is not milan class.
he is one of best defenders in spain but italy he is the worst defender :diablo:
pirlo2004
11-07-2005, 13:10
selling Patrick Veira looks like a bit of a mistake in hindsight.
I agree with meazza, Viera turned out a good player and leader for when king paolo was out but he wasn't that good at the time that was just Wengers skill of developing players (look at Henry)
Why you call yourself Meazza by the way? Didn't he play for Inter for the best part of his carrer??? he only played for milan in a few games because of injury.
Billy_Montreal
12-07-2005, 10:03
In the last ten years I think Patrick Kluivert ranks up there as the biggest disappointment or 'mistake' if you like...however, mistake may not be the right word because based on his Ajax performances there was nothing to indiciate he would not shine with Milan...he was young, hungry, captivating and Dutch (Milan's experience with the Dutch players was not exactly shabby). I would say that bringing in that trio: Kluivert, Reizeger and Bogarde had to be the biggest disappointment in a long time: Bogarde made a horrible back pass to the keeper in one of his first games only to cause a goal...Reizeger never got the hang of "Italian defending" and Kluivert...most of us know what he did..or didn't do.
Javi Moreno was another disappointment given his goal scoring record in Spain however, we learned long ago that scoring in la Liga and scoring in Italy is NIGHT AND DAY. Kluivert came off of a CL Title ... he had proven himself on a 'grand scale'.
Keeper Lehman was another major blunder in 1998.
shevaandkaka'
19-07-2005, 11:47
taibi
viera
ngotty
j.garcia
j.cesar
chamot
jose mari
ayala
bogarde
reizeger
kluivert
rui costa
inzaghi
kutuzov
javi moreno
contra
coluccini
stam(we lost champions and scudetto because of him)
kaladze
laursen
tonetto
giunti
de ascentis
graffiedi
lehmann
redondo
donati
dalla bona
davids :5schal:
chamot
inzaghi
coluccini
stam(we lost champions and scudetto because of him)
kaladze
laursen
:5schal:
adding these guys in the list is ridiculous. infact many of those in your lists are mistakes but not the biggest mistake by us, Rui is worthy of a mention because he cost us so much, otherwise the list is borderline insanity.
keeping your list in mind, where is Umit Davala, another miserable player who played for us. :5inter:
taibi
viera
ngotty
j.garcia
j.cesar
chamot
jose mari
ayala
bogarde
reizeger
kluivert
rui costa
inzaghi
kutuzov
javi moreno
contra
coluccini
stam(we lost champions and scudetto because of him)
kaladze
laursen
tonetto
giunti
de ascentis
graffiedi
lehmann
redondo
donati
dalla bona
davids :5schal:
Isn't that a bit too harsh to put in this list this golden pair who brought us our No. 6? :1ang:
That doesn't mean that I agree with the rest of your list, although most of them are indeed no-brainer. :smileani:
What's more, this list of yours is more like a "list of players I (you) don't like", not exactly a "list of transfer mistake". For example, if we let go somebody who played really well, like Desailly, Rijkaard, that should definitely go into the list, but they obviously won't qualify yours. :neww:
AC Milan Ottawa
20-07-2005, 10:35
Recent transfer blunders that come to mind are:
- Javi Moreno
- Redondo
- Jose Mari -- although I wish he was given more of a chance
- Lehman
- Laursen
id put all the defenders we tried to sign as baresi's replacement up until nesta as our biggest blunders
shevaandkaka' ... stam??? we didnt lose the scudetto and CL because of him... infact we almost won both because of him... its really hard to win both
ACMILAN1983
20-07-2005, 15:36
shevaandkaka' ... stam??? we didnt lose the scudetto and CL because of him... infact we almost won both because of him... its really hard to win both
errrm..."unfortunately" he's not with us in that form anymore. My initial guess is inzaghi9 is a possible bet to be his next identity ;)
Rui Costa aint a Transfer Blunder..
I remember when we signed him... the night before.. we desprately needed a player with attacking flair in our team. I admit Rui cost a lot, BUT during that period there were some huge transfer signings and RUI justified it by the way he played in our champions league success 2002/2003 season. His through balls and assists where crucial....
Rui Scored today in the TIM TROPHY ... I don't see his a transfer dissapointment... his been playing well.. when he gets a chance.. !!!
Forza Rui ... Forza Milan
Rui costa and seedorf ran the show in the first half of the CL winning season. Without those two, Milan wouldn't have won the CL.
Warro Bantan
21-07-2005, 08:34
Rui costa and seedorf ran the show in the first half of the CL winning season. Without those two, Milan wouldn't have won the CL.
Ditto...without Rui Costa, we couldnt have won the UCL..some of us sure have short memories!
one of my memories is the hat ful of assists Rui gave to Inzaghi against Depor oh and lets not forget when carlo played him on the right against Nedved :p286:
i loved his performance in the CL final... he was amazing
Rui experience REALLY shone in the Real Madrid game when Sheva scored that goal and made me literally throw myself off my couch 2 feet into the air. Rui Costa will be remembered long after his retirement. There is a reason he wears 10.
Maevious
21-07-2005, 23:17
Getting players like Coloccini is the reason why Deportivo will struggle to qualify for Champions League from now on..
does anyone mention Andre Cruz'? we battle with Inter to get him, and... big big mistake..
I think this has probably already been mentioned, but the sale of Costinha and Maniche for around £11 million ( something like that ) was a bit of a missed opportunity i believe.
hitmannq8
29-07-2005, 12:32
Bobbo could be added to the list in a months time!
zlatanov
29-07-2005, 12:41
yet another optimistic post ... keep up the rossonero spirit
Bosniaco
06-08-2005, 10:40
I didn't know where to post this but I had to. JDT he really sucks and I'm glad we got rid of him. I just watched Stuttgart game against Duisburg, he played for 75 min, what has he done ?? Nothing !!! Thank God he is not a Milan player anymore.
i agree with shevaandkaka that stam costed us CL title! i am not sure if he costed us scudetto. stam was great until the moment that mattered the most, CL FInal!! it is a pain to go back to this final, stam could have been one of my favorite players for me until that horrible moment , when he fell asleep, gave gerrard a HUGE amount of time to score. Had costacurta played in the centre, we must have won it! stam , u r such a disappointment!!!
the biggest blunders that we made as far as selling are DESAILLY, DAVIDS AND... FABIO CAPELLO. WHAT THE HELL WERE MILAN THINKING!! :angf:
the biggest blunders that we made as far as buying are JON DAHL TOMASSON!! I CANT BELIEVE ANYONE COULD HAVE A NICE WORDS ABOUT HIM AS FAR AS HIS PERFORMANCE IN MILAN ARE CONCERNED! :angf:
yet another optimistic post ... keep up the rossonero spirit
i just love that dry humour.... :haha:
i agree with shevaandkaka that stam costed us CL title! i am not sure if he costed us scudetto. stam was great until the moment that mattered the most, CL FInal!! it is a pain to go back to this final, stam could have been one of my favorite players for me until that horrible moment , when he fell asleep, gave gerrard a HUGE amount of time to score. Had costacurta played in the centre, we must have won it! stam , u r such a disappointment!!!
the biggest blunders that we made as far as selling are DESAILLY, DAVIDS AND... FABIO CAPELLO. WHAT THE HELL WERE MILAN THINKING!! :angf:
the biggest blunders that we made as far as buying are JON DAHL TOMASSON!! I CANT BELIEVE ANYONE COULD HAVE A NICE WORDS ABOUT HIM AS FAR AS HIS PERFORMANCE IN MILAN ARE CONCERNED! :angf:
its always great to have fans like you
FABIO CAPELLO. WHAT THE HELL WERE MILAN THINKING!! :angf:
It was he who Left us for Real at that time, when he came back he did'nt seem to have the magic anymore + he had a fight with Berlusconi's Son. :dstup:
It was he who Left us for Real at that time, when he came back he did'nt seem to have the magic anymore + he had a fight with Berlusconi's Son. :dstup:
i thought the reason why capello left milan was because berlsuconi wanted him to win a trophy before he offered him another contract, capello saw this as a slap in the face and left?
i may be wrong but i`m sure someone else on here will put me straight.
i thought the reason why capello left milan was because berlsuconi wanted him to win a trophy before he offered him another contract, capello saw this as a slap in the face and left?
i may be wrong but i`m sure someone else on here will put me straight.
it could true too, we live in a world with a very corrupt Media, they can't be trusted. not any more.
slicknick
05-09-2007, 01:15
Blomqvist, Elber, Brncic, Dugarry and Umit Davala, and oh I almost forgot, Futre...
atreides602
05-09-2007, 11:01
what about Florin Radu Raducioiu,i'm curious how was he seen by rossoneri.
selling Foggia without giving him any chance to prove his worth.
Bosniaco
05-09-2007, 22:11
selling Foggia without giving him any chance to prove his worth.
Dude deffinitly this is a big mistake. Great player better then Brocchi and some other players went almost for free. This sucks.
You can add Gila by the end of the season.
hitmannq8
05-09-2007, 23:53
Jeff, about time u change sides on the Gila situation.. i wonder if there are any other fans out there that are still kidding them selves and saying he is playing good
slicknick
06-09-2007, 02:30
Jeff, about time u change sides on the Gila situation.. i wonder if there are any other fans out there that are still kidding them selves and saying he is playing good
No, I think that fans all over the world are giving up on him... He's losing support both within this forum and among the Milanisti in general
Jeff, about time u change sides on the Gila situation.. i wonder if there are any other fans out there that are still kidding them selves and saying he is playing good
Hitmannq8, I'm sorry to say that you have indeed mistaken (in a friendly way). I have almost never changed side as I base my evaluation just on performance. His performance right now is not up to par compared with a year ago, then again compared with two years ago. I'm trying to be as subjective as possible.
I can give you an example: Remember the time when Sheva was under heavy fire (the year we won champion league no. 6)? And I have strongly recommended people to be patient, for almost a year.
Sometimes you get a reward for having faith in people (i.e., Sheva's penalty is an excellent example of vindication), while sometimes you don't (e.g., Gilardino). But is almost always better to have faith in people than saying, 'you suck!', right? ;)
He doesn't play good; but I don't see anyone says, 'he plays very well',either. Then of course you have some annoying people who will say, after he scored some IMPORTANT goals if we know how to define them, "see he is GOOD!". But sometimes we are very impatient fans who always want to see 'goal' 'goal' 'goal' from our striker. Think about that: IF Gila, instead of Kaka`, has been taking penalty after Pirlo, are we going to be as fast to dismiss him as now? (Just a thought)
The important point is not to let your preconception about someone / something bias you against someone / something. But this is not easy to understand, because sometimes we operate on black and white. If I see your face and I hate you already, then there is almost nothing YOU can do to convince me you are indeed a nice person.
Biggest mistake? Without a doubt, it's Gianluigi Lentini
Biggest mistake? Without a doubt, it's Gianluigi Lentini
No. It is not a mistake when an accident happen. A mistake is when you buy someone for big bucks and he just perform badly or sell him for small bucks and he perform greatly.
Lentini got into a car (or motorcycle) crash and couldn't train for a WHOLE YEAR. This is not something Milans management could take into consideration, which would say they didn't make a mistake.
Peachtot
07-09-2007, 04:32
yep.., i do agree with you kris.
lentini's transfer fee was the biggest at that moment but Lentini couldn't prove anything to Milan like he shown in Torino.
But it caused the crashed itself.
After the crash then recovery from that injured, I kept believing to wait the best performance of the most expensive player at right flank of milan midfield til he came out from milan.
That time i had fancy of milan midfielder like this :
doandoni----albertini-----desailly-----lentini
Letting go of Patrick Viera, it wasnt as bad as Juventus letting go of Henry tho. Damn that must of hurt pretty bad.
Letting go of Patrick Viera, it wasnt as bad as Juventus letting go of Henry tho. Damn that must of hurt pretty bad.
Not at all.
I think that Juventus fans are only sorry for Henry not doing good in Juve but it doesn't hurt even a little bit. At the expense of losing Henry we got one of the greatest strikers in our history - David Trezeguet, and even though i am aware Henry is much more complete forward than Trez, i wouldn't exchange Trez even for 10 Henry's.
It's just like, at this moment, 99% of Milan fans are happy they bought Pippo from Juve, not Henry. Henry is a better player than Pippo but would anyone who is a Milan fan and who doesn't think that "Henry is God" go back to past and buy Henry instead of Inzaghi ? ( btw, once , here on MM, we even had a member called Henry is God. He was such a pain in the ass and he got a deserved ban. Luckily he at least had a character and he didn't re-register after he was banned and told he's not welcomed here anymore)
Now if you want to talk about a transfer that hurts pretty bad it's Pippo's transfer, not Henry's. Not that we're sorry for losing Pippo... he was great at Juve but it was time for a change and we already had Del Piero-Trez partnership when we sold him. But Pippo was sold to a rival in Italy, unlike Henry who played abroad.
What personally hurts me about Pippo is Ancelotti's behavior. He was keeping Pippo on the bench, Pippo was unhappy and he wanted out at the end. And then Carlo, who made him unhappy at first place, takes Pippo with him to Milan. Really strange , it even looks like a well prepared plan if you ask me.
Of course, Moggi takes the blame for this transfer. If he wanted to keep Pippo he would have kept him, but he obviously also wanted to sell Pippo.
As for Milan's greatest mistake in transfer market, i don't think it's Vieira. He was still 19 when he was sold to Arsenal and even though Milan were obviously aware of his qualities (they wouldn't have bought him at first place if they didn't know he's good) they had to sell him because the non-EU spots were taken and so was his position on the field (Marcel Desailly). Even though Milan knew he was a quality player, there was no way to know that he'll become the greatest DM in the world. Plus, Wenger has a huge role in getting the best out of Vieira and if Patrick didn't leave Milan maybe he wouldn't have been as good as he is now.
The biggest mistake was Edgar Davids, imo. He was already proven in Europe, a CL winner and he was already one of the best in the world. Milan weren't patient enough with him and another mistake was selling him to a rival team and making Juve, who were already the strongest team in the world, even stronger for the years to come.
Tony very well said I personally think Trez was more suited to your style of play and Henry could not have done what Trez has done at Juve. I guess even in the younger days at Monaco many knew these two would be the French partnership of the future. Inzaghi is very special, like you said Milan wouldn’t swap him for Henry and I personally think no player could replace Inzaghi for what he does.
I mentioned Henry because after he left Juventus he more or less set another league alight, was consistent in every year he played and was voted the best foreign player to ever play in the PL. My conspiracy is that Ancelotti knew he was going to leave you and he wanted to make you weak so he let Pippo and Henry go lol. Nah but really I can understand your frustration at letting Pippo go, who has been our savior on countless occasions.
After looking more in to the topic I understand Viera wasn’t the biggest transfer mistake, he was the first player who sprung into my mind who Milan let go when they should have given more chances.
Not like Inter, Milan had few mistakes in transfer, mostly the unlucky ones, ex: Lentini and Redondo. The cases of Viera and Davids did not hurt me because we still had better and more suited DM back then (Albertini and Dessaily). Ejass (friend of Seedorf, I think I did not write his name correctly), Ba (this year) are funny, even Rivaldo turned out to be funny in my point of view :D There are flops, but any clubs have it, and these flops could not do any better at other big teams. The proud midfielder of Milan now consists of best moves in transfer: Pirlo, Seedorf (thanks, Inter :D), Gattuso (thx Scotland and Zac) and Kaka, yes, Kaka.
The things that hurt me the most are the injury of Van Basten or separation of Flying Dutchman Trio, and the reason of Sheva's leaving (I think there are not any English tutor in Italy)...
Kaka--7thUCL
08-09-2007, 00:54
I'll say this over and over again, I want nobody nothing, from EPL, every player coming from EPL will have his legs in 2 peices within his first 2 games of Seria A or spanish, but , i think henry would have been good he looks good at barca too.. All I'm saying is, pato is the future the passed and the present of football, getting players at his age, his talent, in milano is a recipe for disaster, for other teams that is.. but not to mention, Pato can't be judged yet, first game scorer flops, oliveira anyone?
Viera,Collocini,Dawids,Kluivert,Coco
Coco? From whome we got Seedorf? yeah sure that was a big mistake :D
In other news I heard from an Italian that Coco now have moved to USA to try for an actors career. :howler: He sure was a great investment for Inter. ;)
slicknick
10-09-2007, 12:47
In other news I heard from an Italian that Coco now have moved to USA to try for an actors career.
No way!!! That's by far the funniest thing I've heard in like 2-3 days... Downright hysterical :haha: :haha:
Maldini+Nesta
10-09-2007, 13:40
Letting go of Patrick Viera, it wasnt as bad as Juventus letting go of Henry tho. Damn that must of hurt pretty bad.
Both players were too young and needed a change of scenery.
Henry wasn't being used right by Juve. They had him as a straight winger.
Stezagud
10-09-2007, 15:13
I'll say this over and over again, I want nobody nothing, from EPL, every player coming from EPL will have his legs in 2 peices within his first 2 games of Seria A or spanish
:rolleyes:
Yes because the Prem is known to be full of crafty yet fragile little footballing technicians.......like Drogba and Terry :dielaugh:
Kaka--7thUCL
19-09-2007, 16:12
ManU and Chelsea though, have solid players who would do well anywhere, and there are a lot of players who could do the same, given the fact EPL has nearly every good player up to date, but my point is half the people coming from EPL can't neccasarily preform at milan.. As under rated as pirlo is, he'd be regarded as ronaldinho if he moved to epl..
Biggest Mistake IMO was prob letting Vieira go. Capello left after winning the league in 96, as Berlu tol dhim he HAD to win the league or be sacked. Lentini got severly injured in a car crash so wasn't a mistake, just bad luck. Great player too, only Donadoni was better winger for us IMO, but Lentini had more tactical capabilities.
Letting Crespo go and buying Gila was/is a mistake, and Tomasson was great for Milan.
Biggest mistakes (letting players go): Davids, Kluivert, Laursen, Coloccini
HO-YOUNG
27-09-2007, 11:43
Signing GILARDINO....we dont need a striker who we hope will score...we need a striker that is going to score...Dont sell him...Give him away.
Signing GILARDINO....we dont need a striker who we hope will score...we need a striker that is going to score...Dont sell him...Give him away.
I agree. Give him to Sheffield Wed please!!!
HO-YOUNG
27-09-2007, 11:57
We should have added a central defender, LUISOA of Benfica, Daniel Carvalho of CSKA Maskow to substitute for Kaka and as a striker, Luca Toni also and a next Rino. I think the players are frustrated with Gilardino missing empty goals. If i'm on the field i would not give him the ball. I rather to shoot from 50 yard. Gilardino has no sense of positioning on the field and no luck. He should be carefull when eating, he might miss his mouth and poke his eye...
We need wins in the domestic league and spending of Milan money in the winter transfer... I think buy an old PUMA was a mistake...
Blacktop
27-09-2007, 12:15
Not getting off our asses and signing competent strikers. Unless you think scoring four goals in the last four matches is a good thing.
Gilardino has no sense of positioning on the field and no luck. He should be carefull when eating, he might miss his mouth and poke his eye...
Maybe if his family clapped everytime he put the food in the back of his mouth and cheered him on even when the wasted spagetti missed his mouth and fell on the floor he'd become more proficient at eating. The problem with that is that if he was taking the fork and rolling up the spagetti and trying to put it in the hole and missing I for one wouldn't mind...but sometimes uncle ricky feeds him and he still throws it away....I guess we still need to support him .....maybe if we could put the (meat)ball 2mm from the gaping....er....er.. mouth he mightn't miss
:D :D
Maybe if his family clapped everytime he put the food in the back of his mouth and cheered him on even when the wasted spagetti missed his mouth and fell on the floor he'd become more proficient at eating. The problem with that is that if he was taking the fork and rolling up the spagetti and trying to put it in the hole and missing I for one wouldn't mind...but sometimes uncle ricky feeds him and he still throws it away....I guess we still need to support him .....maybe if we could put the (meat)ball 2mm from the gaping....er....er.. mouth he mightn't miss
:D :D
:grinser: :grinser:
We should have added a central defender, LUISOA of Benfica, Daniel Carvalho of CSKA Maskow to substitute for Kaka and as a striker, Luca Toni also and a next Rino. I think the players are frustrated with Gilardino missing empty goals. If i'm on the field i would not give him the ball. I rather to shoot from 50 yard. Gilardino has no sense of positioning on the field and no luck. He should be carefull when eating, he might miss his mouth and poke his eye...
We need wins in the domestic league and spending of Milan money in the winter transfer... I think buy an old PUMA was a mistake...
There were too amny players available but we didn't take anyone. For Dida as i said in the past he is good GK but he past his best years just why we should have got Buffon or another GK like Amelia to share the time with the Brazilian this year and to be #1 the next. For Gila i think that is a very good player but he didn't match with our team, so it is a good idea to sell him in Juve where they want them and to buy other player. Finally i insist that Sheva would be ideal for our plobelm in scoring.
Finally i insist that Sheva would be ideal for our plobelm in scoring.
Indeed, I think Ronaldo will suffice.
Indeed, I think Ronaldo will suffice.
Brilliant post +Rep :5ok:
Brilliant post +Rep :5ok:
Umm... coz I agree with you? lol. Well, but that's honestly what I think. Much of the early-season lose & draw, I believe, should not be contributed to Dida or Gila (now I will get negative rep), but rather, should be attributed to the lack of a forward player like Shevchenko, Ronaldo, and potentially Pato.
Maevious
28-09-2007, 02:43
we should have done a run for Ribery instead of letting him end up at Bayern. this was the biggest mistake of this summer's transfer market.
I wouldn't say this was a 'Big Mistake', but seeing how Elano is carving open defences with great passes right now, he could have been a great addition to our squad.
Stezagud
30-09-2007, 06:59
His freekick yesterday wasnt bad either :eek: even spiderman Given couldnt get anywhere near it...
Elano is a good player but in the 2 games they've played against decent opposition he was quite anonymous. City are a very good side now but a lot of opposition teams are still going to the CoM thinking they can come away with 3 points, when City's reputation catches up with their actual abilities then sides will start going there hoping for a draw, like they do when they come to Utd, Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea and Spurs. The best time to judge Elano will be when this happens.
i liked elano when he was with Shaktar Donetsk, his creativity would have been a good option for us.
With him either on the bench or in the starting line up, we'd have more options.
Kaka--7thUCL
30-09-2007, 10:34
Our biggest mistake was one of either passing up those 3 strikers (van nistelrooy,toni, trezeguet) and not taking on henrys wages. I think we should've looked into defense and possibly GK more then attack aswell.
I believe letting Toni and Ribery end up at Bayern and not signing at least one good defender was a big mistake.That's why we are having such results now!
Blacktop
03-11-2007, 12:41
I believe letting Toni and Ribery end up at Bayern and not signing at least one good defender was a big mistake.That's why we are having such results now!
If there's anything that makes me want to have the management commit hara-kiri, it was letting Toni get away. That was particularly aggravating.
If there's anything that makes me want to have the management commit hara-kiri, it was letting Toni get away. That was particularly aggravating.
I thought they said Toni wanted to go to Bayern instead?
And, Henry would have come have not been the tax system, according to Galliani.
probably been said before, but missing out on Ibrahimovic (even though i'm not his biggest fan, still a top player) & Ribery was a mistake.
probably been said before, but missing out on Ibrahimovic (even though i'm not his biggest fan, still a top player) & Ribery was a mistake.
Did you see how Ribery teared Bolton apart?
probably been said before, but missing out on Ibrahimovic (even though i'm not his biggest fan, still a top player) & Ribery was a mistake.
We only missed out on Ibra because he didn't want to wait till we got CL qualification. He just left to the first offer, which was Inter. Ribery well..who knows?
I did see the Bayern v Bolton game Fantasma, he was fantastic in that match. A player who always wants the ball, has skill and works incredibly hard ... he would have fit right into our way of play, of that i have no doubt.
Mystik, some of Zlatan's characteristics i dislike ... his seeming impatience to wait a day or so to see if we would have qualified being one of them ... however, a Kaka, Ribery & Zlatan front trio would be hard to refuse :D When Zlatan feels like playing that is ;)
I think the main reason Bolton walked away with a draw was because of the coach replacing Ribery.
exactly, Bayern only have themselves to blame for thinking they could win the match by taking off their 3 most dangerous players on the night (Ribery, Podolski & Schweinsteiger).
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