View Full Version : When will Milan finally buy wing-players ??
I already say this for a few years, and after the psv-game i say this again : Milan misses a true winger !! When we are playing against teams that play defense with 10 players, we miss creativity on the wings to create chances. Kaka, Seedorf, Gattuso, Pirlo : all central players! If it doesn't go through the centre, we often start to give long balls to the strikers. That's because we miss a wingplayer. Against psv we only started to get dangerous after Serginho was brought in. Milan is sometimes way too predictable : everything goes through the centre. Sure, we have Cafu and Kaladze, but they are offensive wing defenders. We need a true original, old-style wing player. Yes, someone like Roberto Donadoni was ! Remember how he created chances for us, when we were struggling to beat a smaller side ? With his speed, dribbles and crosses he was a real danger on the left side. Someone like him, we miss. The only player who can do that is Serginho, but he's too unstable. Jankulovski can do that also, but he's more defensive, more a type Kaladze.
No, we really need a left or right wing player that can create chances from the wing. Have u guys seen Farfan and Beasley for psv ? Milan-defenders had a lot of trouble with them. Why ? Because they are fast, strong and have great dribble-skills.
So 1 of those 2 players would be excellent signings i think. Chelsea for example has 3 good wingers : Robben, Wright-Phillips and Duff. Duff sits mostly on the bench.
Dutch teams mostly have good wing-players because their tactics are mostly with 3 strikers: 1 centre striker and a left and right wing. Overmars and Zenden were also that kind of players. Other good wingplayers are for example Joaquin (Betis), Wilhelmson (Anderlecht), Ze Roberto (Bayern Munich). We had Cosmin Contra, but Ancelotti used him as right back, like he uses Cafu right now. But Contra is not that strong as Cafu is in defense, but attacking he's not worse then Cafu. Contra was a good player, it's a pity Milan sold him after only 1 year.
But my point is, Milan needs at least 1 true wing-player of world class in their squad. That will help to solve the problem that Milan has, namely to create chances against smaller, defensive-orientated teams.
hitmannq8
01-11-2005, 19:16
We have Jankulovski! But we lack any wingers on the right, we have Cafu, but he cant play 2 games in a row and even with all that rest he still cant run like last year.
I always wanted Cicinho :/
Jankulovski is a true winger. We don't have a genuine winger on the right. You'll have to wait for a new coach for a change.
Brasileiro
01-11-2005, 22:44
We have Serginho, Jankulovski and Cafu play like a winger in Milan...of course a player like Robben is always welcome.
An attacking right back is all we need. Inter have always got wingers, where has it ever got them?
inter is inter, they simply cant win it. But cafu is simply and attacking RB. And we bought Marek so he can be our new attacking LB. You all saw how kaladze can play some horrible forward runs. Serginho is pretty unstable. On the right we have Rino and he brings much to the team, but when cafu retires and there isnt any other RWB as him, we will need clear RW. Joaquim is a master player, he is world class. Better that Camoranesi( look at how juve breaks down smaller teams). Milan will simply need to spend some big money, its simple as that.
I can't see Joaquin coming. Spanish players don't have the best of records in adapting to calcio (Mendieta, Jose Mari, Javi Moreno etc etc).
Personally, I like Mancini of Roma, who would be a good addition, though I realise that Carlo rarely likes playing with orthodox wide attackers. Marchionni is another I always thought was useful, though his career has been inconsistent.
We have Serginho, Jankulovski and Cafu play like a winger in Milan...of course a player like Robben is always welcome.
Cafu is an offensive wing back, so he also has to think about defending. Indeed, Serginho and Janku are more kind of wing players. But Milan is a worldteam so we need a worldclass wing-player. Anyone who saw the psv-game realises that a wingplayer could have been very important there. Milan became dangerous when Serginho entered the field.
An attacking right back is all we need. Inter have always got wingers, where has it ever got them?
with all respect, but what u tell here is crap ! So because Inter has got wingers, and haven't won anything, the same is going to happen to Milan ? Oh please ...
Well lets say we sign 2 new wingers. Who would you leave out of the team? Kaka, Sheva and Gila all have to play. Pirlo and a defensive midfielder have to play so that leaves 1 spot free for one of your wingers.
Well lets say we sign 2 new wingers. Who would you leave out of the team? Kaka, Sheva and Gila all have to play. Pirlo and a defensive midfielder have to play so that leaves 1 spot free for one of your wingers.
indeed. Kaka on numero 10, 2 strikers and Pirlo in central. And then Gattuso or Seedorf and 1 new wing player.
Example :
Dida
Cafu Maldini Nesta Kaladze
Pirlo Gattuso
Kaka
Sheva Gila
That leaves 1 spot for a true wing player. But against smaller teams it can be appropriate to put gattuso on the bench, and play both Seedorf and a wing player. Besides, i haven't said that this new wing player should play ALWAYS ! We have had successes without wing players, i just say we need a world class wing player in our squad. That doesn't mean he always plays, but it's important we have one, when Milan has difficulties again against a smaller side. I can't understand that some people don't see that we really need a true winger ...
Sorin has been on my list all along.
if we gonna use a "true wing" then we need to change our formation and tactics
MadeMashin
02-11-2005, 13:44
id like to see c.ronaldo join milan, isnt he leavin manu soon neways? he'd do some damage down the wings
if we gonna use a "true wing" then we need to change our formation and tactics
we have to change almost nothing. 1 wingplayer in, Gattuso or Seedorf out. And like i've already said we don't have too play with a 'true wing' every game, but it's needed that we have one in our squad.
well instead of putting Gatusso on the bench, why dont we just get a player who will do Gatusso's job, aswel as attack. Essien would have been perfect :rolleyes: But Chelsea got him, Do you think Malouda could do something similar.
hitmannq8
02-11-2005, 15:06
we had Dhorasoo :/
id go for ballack but hes no winger. i think janku is being left out by bram, what do u think of him?
Samaldinho
02-11-2005, 17:12
I think a Pirlo-Gattuso central midfield pairing with two true wingers could really work, just like with Juve how they use Nedved--Emerson--Viera--Camoranesi. However, how do you incorporate Kaka into all of that? Do you push him wide? That's the question, because Kaka has to be playing, undoubtedly. Perhaps from right to left:
Kaka--Gattusso--Pirlo--some true left winger *cough* WILHEMSSON *cough*
we had Dhorasoo :/
I liked him, but he didnt have the steel of someone like Essien.
Samaldinhio, you either play Kaka up front with one striker or play him on one of the wings. I dont want to see either happen. So unless we get rid of Kaka :cpuke: we cant play with 2 wingers.
_MaJi_tz
02-11-2005, 18:02
Lyon midfielder Florent Malouda.
thats player for ac.milan he can play in midl and attack too and he is really fasst !!!
your opinion????
zlatanov
02-11-2005, 18:26
Lyon midfielder Florent Malouda.
thats player for ac.milan he can play in midl and attack too and he is really fasst !!!
your opinion????
excellent player ... a carbon copy of Serginho only 10 years younger. As far as I know he is up for a renewal with Lyon so now could be the right time to get him.
Oh finally someone else mentions him other than me. :guw: Isnt he a bit more tough tackling than Serghino though?
Anybody else think left winger DaMarcus Beasley of PSV would be a great fit for Milan. I have been a fan ever since he has played for my hometown Fire. He's already proven himself in Europe. Watch for him and Landon Donovan to lead the USA at the World Cup.
_MaJi_tz
03-11-2005, 18:57
Malouda Linked With Inter And United
11/2/2005 2:06:00 PM
Lyon winger Florent Malouda is apparently being chased by both Inter and Manchester United.
Nerazzurri patron Massimo Moratti is said to be a keen admirer of the Frenchman, while United reportedly see the player as a long-term replacement for Ryan Giggs.
Lyon are keen to keep hold of Malouda, with president Jean-Michel Aulas claiming that the club have made him ’an optimal proposal’ over a new contract.
The fresh deal would take him up to 2010.
slicknick
03-11-2005, 19:17
Malouda Linked With Inter And United
11/2/2005 2:06:00 PM
Lyon winger Florent Malouda is apparently being chased by both Inter and Manchester United.
Nerazzurri patron Massimo Moratti is said to be a keen admirer of the Frenchman, while United reportedly see the player as a long-term replacement for Ryan Giggs.
Lyon are keen to keep hold of Malouda, with president Jean-Michel Aulas claiming that the club have made him ’an optimal proposal’ over a new contract.
The fresh deal would take him up to 2010.
Well, I hope the Malouda rumors are true and we snap him off the hands of United and Inter Merda
id go for ballack but hes no winger. i think janku is being left out by bram, what do u think of him?
Janku is a good player, but also left wing, like Sergniho. We have nog players we can field as right wing. And Janku is also more an offensive left wing back, type of Cafu i think, not really an offensive winger.
I think a Pirlo-Gattuso central midfield pairing with two true wingers could really work, just like with Juve how they use Nedved--Emerson--Viera--Camoranesi. However, how do you incorporate Kaka into all of that? Do you push him wide? That's the question, because Kaka has to be playing, undoubtedly. Perhaps from right to left:
Kaka--Gattusso--Pirlo--some true left winger *cough* WILHEMSSON *cough*
i think that in some games Gattuso is not needed. Games against Empoli, Lecce, Reggina, ... Milan almost always have posession of ball. We need players who can do something creative then. Gattuso is a good worker, is good in recuperation, but brings nothing 'extra' on footballing skills. And that's what's needed against smaller te
teams. So maybe like this then : RIGHT WING Kaka - Pirlo - LEFT WING ?
In games against Juve for example, u can play Gattuso instead of one of the wings then.
Btw, Seedorf is also still important, so it's not necessary to play every game with true wingers, but it's important, that on the moments we need wingers, we have them !
had we used wing play more often, we might have won more matches, for this reason ancelotti has to go because he has hardly used wing play,he only used it when in trouble. this tactic wastes milan's talents! only cafu provides wing play in milan team, this leaves big hole in right defence because no midfield can do it, the defeat by deportivo and liverpool might explain this! serginho can do it but he doesnt play often and he is not a balanced player.
gattuso also caused imbalance in the team, because he cant contribute whatsoever to attacking play and the role of winning the ball is reserved to him, thats mad, this is a team sport, every player must contribute.
therefore if these two serious issues are solved, we will be invincible.
zlatanov
05-11-2005, 22:48
had we used wing play more often, we might have won more matches, for this reason ancelotti has to go because he has hardly used wing play,he only used it when in trouble. this tactic wastes milan's talents! only cafu provides wing play in milan team, this leaves big hole in right defence because no midfield can do it, the defeat by deportivo and liverpool might explain this! serginho can do it but he doesnt play often and he is not a balanced player.
gattuso also caused imbalance in the team, because he cant contribute whatsoever to attacking play and the role of winning the ball is reserved to him, thats mad, this is a team sport, every player must contribute.
therefore if these two serious issues are solved, we will be invincible.
amin. :rolleyes:
had we used wing play more often, we might have won more matches, for this reason ancelotti has to go because he has hardly used wing play,he only used it when in trouble. this tactic wastes milan's talents! only cafu provides wing play in milan team, this leaves big hole in right defence because no midfield can do it, the defeat by deportivo and liverpool might explain this! serginho can do it but he doesnt play often and he is not a balanced player.
gattuso also caused imbalance in the team, because he cant contribute whatsoever to attacking play and the role of winning the ball is reserved to him, thats mad, this is a team sport, every player must contribute.
therefore if these two serious issues are solved, we will be invincible.
if anything gattuso causes more balance to the team, defence doest start from defence it starts from midfield and attack if possible, we have no other player on the team who can defend from midfield onwards except him and ambro and overall gattuso is better and without him too much space would be exploited since all other mdfielders and attackers are more attacking than defending.
and if we pla with cafu on the right and a winger on the left dont you think thats tooo dangerous since and attack through the middle would be really easy for them??? i think as long as our team performs well were perfect, the formation has the perfect balance and it can be undone by us being exhausted or having a bad day or agaist an incredibly fast team like depor who we played exhausted as well.
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