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GRE-NO-LI
24-01-2006, 14:11
Braida ad Amsterdam per trattare con l'Ajax

Lunedì Ariedo Braida si è recato ad Amsterdam per trattare con l'Ajax il centrocampista Wesley Sneijder. Il giocatore, classe 1984, è legato da un contratto fino al 2009, ma il club rossonero lo sta seguendo da tempo. Il Milan sta valutando l'opportunità di prenderlo subito o di lasciarlo in Olanda fino a giugno. Si tratta di un jolly del centrocampo dai piedi raffinati e che, soprattutto, può essere impiegato in qualsiasi zona del campo.

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What a splendid rumour, I hope it's a true one! I've been watching that player since the last year, and I guess he can do wonders for us! :)

SANT
24-01-2006, 14:16
what's the source?

jani
24-01-2006, 14:16
the stronger rumour however is that he's there to send Stam to Ajax :(

GRE-NO-LI
24-01-2006, 14:18
what's the source?

Calciomercato

GRE-NO-LI
24-01-2006, 14:19
']the stronger rumour however is that he's there to send Stam to Ajax :(

Well, he could been doing both, let's hope!

Jim_UK
24-01-2006, 14:38
Stam + $$$ = Sneijder :5ok:

Acmir^
24-01-2006, 14:49
Sneijder woould be a great addition to our squad but the player i really want to see is Alex from Psv we need him more than Sneijder, but we'll see maybe in summer

GRE-NO-LI
24-01-2006, 14:50
Sneijder woould be a great addition to our squad but the player i really want to see is Alex from Psv we need him more than Sneijder, but we'll see maybe in summer

What about Alex AND Sneijder? :)

Acmir^
24-01-2006, 14:53
What about Alex AND Sneijder? :)


Well that would be great deal let's wait and see :5ok:

SANT
24-01-2006, 15:00
:5milan: Calciomercato is as good a source as Tribal Football

GRE-NO-LI
24-01-2006, 15:02
Yep... they really don't have great credibility... :(

mrki
24-01-2006, 16:03
Maybe we should go for someone physicaly stronger than Sneijder, we need players that can protect Pirlo better.

SANT
24-01-2006, 17:26
Yep... they really don't have great credibility... :(

Then why do you post it???

sheva-gila
24-01-2006, 17:37
Yep... they really don't have great credibility... :(

you justi sometimes have some strange post why are u doing that

kris
24-01-2006, 17:45
I am sure the got the part about Braida being there correct. But what deals he is in for is more of guesswork IMO. Many possibly targets in that little country ;)

zlatanov
24-01-2006, 19:19
Yep... they really don't have great credibility... :(
quite the opposite, they are pretty accurate and are often the first to announce a number of transfers/rumours that turn out to be true after that and appear all over the news. The only problem with their credibility is that they QUOTE some pretty crappy italian newspapers like Torino's TuttoSport, for example, and 99% of TS' reports is a hot air balloon full of crap. Nonetheless, TS are still one of the big Sport newspapers in Italy and that's why calciomercato are quoting their articles.

Then why do you post it???
:5ok: :guw:

GRE-NO-LI
24-01-2006, 19:31
Then why do you post it???

Well, one never knows , it could be a true rumour!

GilAttack [11]
24-01-2006, 23:17
Alex (Ajax) might very well be the most overrated player in MilanMania!

:devf:

jani
24-01-2006, 23:48
is there an Alex at Ajax?

mk18
25-01-2006, 01:00
the more i read in this thread ... the more i get confused...!!!

alex?? ajax??? player in milanmania???

hitmannq8
25-01-2006, 01:28
They meant Alex from PSV. Really he should be our priority, maybe even more than Lugano and Torres. Sneijder is just a bonus, I really think we should spend time looking for the bricks to build the new defense rather than the decorations.

SANT
25-01-2006, 02:16
To be honest, I think we have been talking about a bunch of players that have not even crossed Milan's management minds... just because someone else in the forum is interested on them...

examples? Ballack, Alex, Schneijder, Torres, Rafael...

Chris is more reallistic...or Lugano.

hitmannq8
25-01-2006, 03:00
I know for a fact that the management has certainly at least thinked of all those names u've mentioned SANT except Rafael.

And calciomercato.com is not a site that just releases bs rumours, infact, it is a whole site that actually belongs to a TV program in Italy.. their job is to look for any rumours around and post them.. usually they look at italian newspapers..they are usually the first ones to spread the news, and i cant remember any transfer that we actually made before us being linked to the player in calciomercato.com (did i make sense?).. maybe the only surprise was Vogel..Dhorasoo was rumoured to join a week before he did..

Giovanni
25-01-2006, 04:05
Maybe he's gone to Amsterdam just to chill out, smoke a couple of joints and make a tour of the Red Quarter :D

jani
25-01-2006, 07:02
I think its been made public that Chivu is of our interest. But he's too expensive.

prifess
25-01-2006, 07:03
well we got 5 days and couting to buy a player... (will be none)

devoted_dm
25-01-2006, 07:18
I don't think we'll buy anyone before the end of the current transfer window, but I seem to be reading about Braida traveling to Amsterdam to negotiate for Sneijder everywhere. It would be a fantastic transfer for us. He's a top notch player and he is young. Obviously he's not going to stay in Ajax for the rest of his career, so why not join Milan (maybe he's gotten some advice from his national team coach)?. I think he is a very realistic transfer target for a club like us. Sure he's gonna cost a lot, but I think the Gilardino saga proved that Milan can shell out the big bucks when it's necessary. And we are in desperate need of fresh blood in our squad.

GRE-NO-LI
25-01-2006, 10:27
I don't think we'll buy anyone before the end of the current transfer window, but I seem to be reading about Braida traveling to Amsterdam to negotiate for Sneijder everywhere. It would be a fantastic transfer for us. He's a top notch player and he is young. Obviously he's not going to stay in Ajax for the rest of his career, so why not join Milan (maybe he's gotten some advice from his national team coach)?. I think he is a very realistic transfer target for a club like us. Sure he's gonna cost a lot, but I think the Gilardino saga proved that Milan can shell out the big bucks when it's necessary. And we are in desperate need of fresh blood in our squad.


I totally agree with you, Devoted: Sneijder, although still very young, is a fully mature midfielder, with extraordinary assist skills, and also capable of scoring. He can be an outstanding purchase for us, I hope our board pick him as soon as possible, or a club like Chelsea will take him from us. Of course it will not be a cheap transfer, but come on, we're Milan, not a small miserable side!

Warro Bantan
25-01-2006, 10:33
Maybe he's gone to Amsterdam just to chill out, smoke a couple of joints and make a tour of the Red Quarter :D :haha:

good one!!! I can see him sparking up too!...wait..or is that me looking at myself in a trick mirror...:stoned: ? One thing I know, I would definately join him for a red light district tour! :sagrin:

To lend some level of credibility to this:

From channel4.com:
http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jan25c.html

Milan in Sneijder talks

Wednesday 25 January, 2006
Milan are considering making a bid for Ajax midfielder Wesley Sneijder, according to reports in Italy.

General director Ariedo Braida flew to Amsterdam on Tuesday to begin talks with the Dutch club about the possibility of bringing the 21-year-old to the San Siro in the summer.

Sneijder, despite his young age, has become a mainstay in both the Ajax and the Holland national team, where he has been preferred to Clarence Seedorf by national Coach Marco Van Basten.

A product of the famous Ajax football academy, the diminutive youngster is strong on the ball, a good dribbler and crosser of the ball, is two-footed and also has an eye for goal, as his two in the Champions League this season have already demonstrated.

Any move for the Utrecht-born set-piece specialist would not come cheap, however, as Sneijder is contracted to the Dutch giants until 2009.

Wouldnt mind this Sneijder dude in my team at all!! :dcool:

GRE-NO-LI
25-01-2006, 10:44
He's coming to us! :)

SANT
25-01-2006, 14:25
If Sneijder comes, then Rui Costa needs to go back to Benfica...

But I think Gio was the first one to be reallistic on this thread... maybe Braida is just on a social visit to Ajax... just staying close to Ajax management for future dealings...
or even closer to get girls behind the glass... (hey, someone told me, I've never been there... or have I?)

GRE-NO-LI
25-01-2006, 14:28
Sant:

Well, now it's that are showing negativity... Braida could be really signing Sneijder for Milan, why not?

SANT
25-01-2006, 14:38
I am not being negative at all... and I know I've critized you in the past for that reason, and you've understood why...

I am being reallistic. You're asking for sources to show you why it is NOT true, instead of asking for sources that CONFIRM it...

How stupid would a newspaper columnist need to be to write an article entitled:
"Ronaldinho not signing with CSKA Sofia of Bulgary this season" (just to give you a weird example)...

If I tell you, why couldn't Braida be in London signing Henry??? what would you think?
You wouldn't consider yourself a pesimist... you would think I am just anxious...

as I think you are... and for players that in my opinnion, are not worth the buzz... like Torres.

So, I'm sorry if I've broken your heart... but I think this thread is a waste of our time.
At least until someone can show a credible source.

GRE-NO-LI
25-01-2006, 14:46
Well, Zlatanov, for instance, who HATE the prospect of new signings just as you as well, said that calciomercato is a reliable source...

SANT
25-01-2006, 14:53
I'll tell you what, if Sneijder, or Heitinga come to Milan, I will be as happy as you.

but if Sneijder comes, Rui is out... can't afford 3 players in the #10 role, with as much as Rui costs already.

GRE-NO-LI
25-01-2006, 14:57
He wannna end his career on Benfica, is that right?

mk18
25-01-2006, 16:02
sneijder coming doesnt neccessarily mean rui has to go... sneijder can play in all 4 roles we have in midfield, once rui leaves he can officially take his place but right now, if vogel does go to man utd then sneijder should take his place.

grenoli... what ur not understanding is that sant is telling you that once something seems to be official you can be happy... when its still a rumour then dont bother going crazy because if it ends up going badly then all u do is u hurt yourself (by being dissapointed)... my advice to you when it comes to these rumours is to only give your opinion on the player, and where would he work best in our lineup and so on... without the 'ohhhh man... this guy is gonna make us champions again' ... or the 'ohhhh damn, if this guy comes my favorite player will have to leave' ... u can save that to when its official... learn to be happy in all situations :)

Nirvana FC
25-01-2006, 16:18
There are so many rumours surrounding Milan nowadays that I am starting to think that we are going to sign players who do not make headlines like Jorge Andrade, De Jong etc.
Sneijder is really a good player and can develop into a star someday, but I honestly do not foresee him wearing our jersey next season. Maybe in 2007.
Probably we'll change a lot of defenders for the next season but the midfielders will remain the same. But I hope I am wrong and Ballack join us next summer.

mrki
25-01-2006, 18:16
Sneijder is a great potential, but people, we play in serie a and our team needs to be tough, and sneijder cant do that. He is good with the ball,fast and can shoot well. But having kaka,pirlo and sneijder in the middle would destroy our defensive sistem. We already feel lack of pure power in our team, and we need to look for someone tougher. Im not saying we need a butcher like blasi or dacourt, but a player like Camoranesi or Gerrard who are real class players and can attack and DEFEND as well. Looks like Camoranesi is leaving juve, and even dough I cannot believe that, putting him on the right in our midfield would be a brilliant move by milan. We will not find a player like Cafu anymore, and you cant play Gattuso on the right with a defensive RB, its a horrible idea. think about that please.

GRE-NO-LI
25-01-2006, 18:18
But I hope I am wrong and Ballack join us next summer.

I hope you are wrong too, with only onde difference: I would go for Sneijder instead of Ballack.

mk18
25-01-2006, 18:50
yeh if camoranesi is to be sold by juve (which could be true given that they signed marchionni - not sure if its official though - from parma) then we should definatly look to sign him.

GRE-NO-LI
25-01-2006, 19:00
But having kaka,pirlo and sneijder in the middle would destroy our defensive sistem.


But we don't need to have Pirlo and Sneijder playing together with Kaká, we can make a turnover, and one of outstanding technical quality.

nefremo
25-01-2006, 19:54
I don't know what people mean when they say that Sneijder will mess up our defensive system. I have watched him play a lot, and he is really tough. Sometimes he reminds me of Seedorf. He can defend and attack even though he is viewd by many as an attack-minded player or an attacking midfielder. I see him more as an all-aroud midfielder that can pretty much do anything. I really like that way he playes and I love his age. I would be excited if he was to join us, even though it doesn't mean that he will be a starter. He will however add great depth in our midfield. Let's wait and see what happens though. If anything, i doubt we will see him in Milano before this summer.

SANT
25-01-2006, 20:05
hey, man, I never told you, but that signature is really cool... and original... good job...

sefril
29-01-2006, 13:25
I think that Sneijder would be valuable for us when we use the 4-4-2 formation, with 2 defensive midfielder act as a shield for the defence (Gattuso and Pirlo)... So, where do you want to put Kaka'? as a side midfielder? it would such a waste of talent... But, don't know,, if it's true (Sneijder to Milan) I would like to see it as a variation attacking for Milan.. Just like Berlusconi want us to be, 'The Best Attacking Team In The World'..

SANT
30-01-2006, 22:27
Now we know what Braida was doing there...

if Braida was in Amsterdam, that means it was Milan (or Stam) the one interested in the move... if not, Ajax officials would have visited in Milano...

so more than likely we will see some young defender coming from Ajax in exchange... I hope Johnny Heitinga.

hitmannq8
31-01-2006, 02:24
nah man.. i've seen heitinga play a few games.. terlizzi and barzagli r much better than he is.. if i were to chose a player from the ajax team it wud certainly be sneijder

Josh-Sheva
31-01-2006, 10:58
Grygera is a good option...

nefremo
31-01-2006, 11:12
We still don't know if Milan even wants anyone from Ajax. It is clear that we were there for Stam. Was there anything else?? We don't know..... so it is useless to link every Ajax player with us now.
By the way...it says that we sold Stam. Does anyone know the details of the transfer. I know that it hasn't been out on the official websites but maybe someone has an idea???

GRE-NO-LI
31-01-2006, 22:10
Esclusiva Calciomercato, agente Sneijder: 'Milan? Non so nulla, via a giugno da Ajax? Non credo ma....'

Calciomercato


Soren Lerby, agente del centrocampista dell'Ajax, Wesley Sneijder, intervistato in esclusiva da Calciomercato.com:
"Non so nulla di un interessamento da parte del Milan per il mio assistito ne' se ci sia stato o meno un incontro tra rappresentanti del club rossonero e l'Ajax. Quello che posso dire e' che Sneijder e' sotto contratto con l'Ajax fino al 2009 e che ad  Amsterdam si trova molto bene. In questo momento vuole pensare solo ed esclusivamente a dare il massimo per i lanceri ed e' gia' molto concentrato sui prossimi Mondiali di giugno in Germania. Non credo che lascerà l'Ajax a fine stagione, ma nel calcio non si sa mai, possono sempre succedere molte cose"

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Damn... I hope that statement it's only a curtain of smoke, because Sneijder is really a fantastic player that could do wonders for us, not only as a natural starter, but also giving our top midfielders the necessary competition for a a first team place.

mk18
31-01-2006, 22:51
translation anyone?

GRE-NO-LI
31-01-2006, 23:00
In short: Soren Lerby, who is Sneijder's agent, is saying that he haven't received yet an offer by Milan for the player, and that the midfielder has a contract with Ajax till 2009.

mk18
31-01-2006, 23:43
thanks for that grenoli, hey by the way, where u from? i see u have the hizballah logo as ur avatar and u use the word WAAAAAAAAL which is common in my country when trying to say that much but with an exageration obviously.

GRE-NO-LI
01-02-2006, 00:40
Well, I'm from Brazil. :)

devoted_dm
01-02-2006, 06:24
Well, that Milan hasn't made an offer for Sneijder doesn't have to mean anything. People thought we already had a deal with Parma about Gila this time last year, but no deal was actually made before we were approaching the end of the summer.

Giovanni
01-02-2006, 11:30
Esclusiva Calciomercato, agente Sneijder: 'Milan? Non so nulla, via a giugno da Ajax? Non credo ma....'

Calciomercato


Soren Lerby, agente del centrocampista dell'Ajax, Wesley Sneijder, intervistato in esclusiva da Calciomercato.com:
"Non so nulla di un interessamento da parte del Milan per il mio assistito ne' se ci sia stato o meno un incontro tra rappresentanti del club rossonero e l'Ajax. Quello che posso dire e' che Sneijder e' sotto contratto con l'Ajax fino al 2009 e che ad  Amsterdam si trova molto bene. In questo momento vuole pensare solo ed esclusivamente a dare il massimo per i lanceri ed e' gia' molto concentrato sui prossimi Mondiali di giugno in Germania. Non credo che lascerà l'Ajax a fine stagione, ma nel calcio non si sa mai, possono sempre succedere molte cose"

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Damn... I hope that statement it's only a curtain of smoke, because Sneijder is really a fantastic player that could do wonders for us, not only as a natural starter, but also giving our top midfielders the necessary competition for a a first team place.

GRE-NO-LI please give a rough translation of the content and write the title of all threads in english. I know you understand italian but think about a norwegian or a southern asian who don't.

Cheers mate :2dri: :beach: :bright:

ARIO
01-02-2006, 11:58
Translazione... :)

Soren Lerby, agent of the centrocampista of the Ajax, Wesley Sneijder, interviewed in exclusive right from Calciomercato.com: "I do not know null of a interest from part of the Milan for assisted mine ne' if it has been or less an encounter between representatives of the rossonero club and the Ajax. What I can under contract say e' that Sneijder e' with the Ajax until 2009 and that to. Amsterdam is found very well. In this moment it wants to only think and exclusively next to giving to the maximum for the next lanceri and e' gia' a lot concentrated on the World-wide ones of june in Germany. Not creed that lascerà the Ajax to fine season, but in soccer is not never known, can always succeed many things "

=Babelfish, Altavista.com=

GRE-NO-LI
01-02-2006, 12:49
Sorry, Giovanni, I will take care of that in the future.

GRE-NO-LI
01-02-2006, 12:51
Well, that Milan hasn't made an offer for Sneijder doesn't have to mean anything. People thought we already had a deal with Parma about Gila this time last year, but no deal was actually made before we were approaching the end of the summer.

I really hope the same is happening in terms of Sneijder.

ACMILAN1983
01-02-2006, 13:27
Merged the two Sneijder threads into one

mk18
01-02-2006, 14:25
Well, I'm from Brazil. :)
then whats with the hizballah and the waaaal expression? :D

GRE-NO-LI
01-02-2006, 14:42
Well, I symphatize with all the islamic antiimperialist revolutionary movements, and WAAAAL is used also in english, I guess. :)

mk18
01-02-2006, 19:01
cool ...


OBRIGADO BRASIL!

i plan to learn portuguese ... i love the language!

GRE-NO-LI
01-02-2006, 19:35
Thanks, friend! :)