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http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/dec7b.html
a very good replacement for the future
i hope it comes true
he is no where near as good as don paolo but then who is?
but he would be one of the better options available to us
Giovanni
07-12-2004, 06:09
he is no where near as good as don paolo but then who is?
but he would be one of the better options available to us
excellent post alan
who is near maldini? it's time we get used to the idea we'll never have such a player again and must do the best to have a player near his class or at least the best available :w221:
ACMILAN1983
07-12-2004, 06:21
I'll wait to see further developments on this story before saying a lot.
Chivu is a very good player and could do very well at Milan though. As has been said, he isn't and will not become on par with San Paulo, but I can't think of anyone in football at the moment, except Nesta, that can reach that sort of level.
Giovanni
07-12-2004, 06:26
He's injury prone though
He would be a great addition to our side, surely Milan will leave him at Roma for next season to see how well he gets over his injury and by that time Maldini should have retired so Chivu could slot in very nicely. I cant really see Milan having Maldini, Nesta, Stam, Cafu, Chivu and Collocini and possibly Billy (Who may never retire) in the same squad at the same time. I doubt we will see him this summer.
Maldini will be replaced by Nesta and noone else. If we get Chivu as Nesta's replacement I am quite happy :)
i think hes injury prone.. i would love to see us go for roberto ayala... i think this time hell do more than great... ahhh, if only puyol was at another club than barca... he IMO is the closest thing to maldini.
Stezagud
07-12-2004, 11:45
I suppose its inevitable that a central defender will be bought in the next few years so i suppose these sort of links are going to get more and more common :D
Chivu is a good player and at the right team could be a great one, but as has been mentioned he does get injured a lot. Maldini is a big presence in the team and whoever comes in must be consistent and reliable, so a guy who might miss much of the season through injuries wouldnt exactly be ideal.
Giovanni
07-12-2004, 13:21
Maldini will be replaced by Nesta and noone else. If we get Chivu as Nesta's replacement I am quite happy :)
Machiavelli would be proud of you Enrico :dielaugh: :proud: :proud: :grinser:
i think hes injury prone.. i would love to see us go for roberto ayala... i think this time hell do more than great... ahhh, if only puyol was at another club than barca... he IMO is the closest thing to maldini.
Ayala :howler: He is the same age as Stam and have already failed with us. Of course he could be a succes if he comes back, but why should we pay big bucks when we already have Stam? Makes no sense at all.
As for Chivu, yes his constant injuries is really a big concern considering his future.
i think hes injury prone.. i would love to see us go for roberto ayala... i think this time hell do more than great... ahhh, if only puyol was at another club than barca... he IMO is the closest thing to maldini.
Ayala played for Milan before moving to Valencia. He was not a success at Milan by any standards. I doubt very much neither him nor the club want to repeat that experience.
He is a good player, but is not right for Milan.
yes but the ayala now is much much muuuuuuuuch more different than the ayala we had a few years ago... in my opinion hes the 4rd best CB in the world after maldini and stam (puyol 4th and nesta 5th) ... back then he had little experience in italy, or in europe in general.. but u guys are right about his age, because this time by the time we need a CB to fill in he would be around 34 years old... a little bit toooo much i think.
*cough* Walter Samuel!!! *cough* :D
he's like 26-27 or so years old i believe.
excellent player, 3rd best stopper in the world imo (after Maldini and Nesta ofc :D).
if possible, we should definately get him.
anyway, i agree with Henrik, he said what i repeatedly say: The only one who can get anywhere near replacing Maldini, is Nesta. But then we need someone who can replace Nesta, which wont be easy either... :(
Forza Milan Per Sempre!!!!!!!!!
But then we need someone who can replace Nesta, which wont be easy either... :(
Well we have Stam and Coloccini until we figure it out, which I guess is the best back-up plan the last 10 years :)
ACMILAN1983
07-12-2004, 20:29
... nesta 5th) ...
Please tell me your not serious
Please tell me your not serious
actually i am... i think hes great but he is overrated a bit
on his day hes great, on his bad days hes just.. horiible
and that happens from time to time
actually i am... i think hes great but he is overrated a bit
on his day hes great, on his bad days hes just.. horiible
and that happens from time to time
I think we have to agree to disagree on Nesta's quality :dstup:
ACMILAN1983
08-12-2004, 10:06
I think Henrik's response is the same as mine ;)
well i was expecting that from u guys
....he isn't and will not become on par with San Paulo, but I ......
A bit off side the topic....but Dev,are u catching the JURE disease???:eek:
:D
ACMILAN1983
08-12-2004, 16:12
A bit off side the topic....but Dev,are u catching the JURE disease???:eek:
:D
hehe, must be. Actually, I was in a bit of a rush typing that post.
I was gonna edit it, but it seems I'm too late to do so.
well i was expecting that from u guys
Because we are Milan fans? :u56:
Because we are Milan fans? :u56:
:devf: ... u think so?
:devf: ... u think so?
yes, I do think we are Milan fans, but it is just a hunch :r11:
im not saying hes great but i think puyol and ayala and stam and offcourse maldini are better
humanTORCH
09-12-2004, 08:43
Why don't we get rogue junior back...he did good for leverkusen :guw:
Why don't we get rogue junior back...he did good for leverkusen :guw:
Let's leave at that Roque finally got to play well wearing red and black :u56:
Let's leave at that Roque finally got to play well wearing red and black :u56:
:grinser: :grinser: :grinser: :grinser: :grinser:
I think that Chivu will be good replacement for Maldini.
Why don't we try to buy Puyol, he is very good...
:grinser: :grinser: :grinser: :grinser: :grinser:
I think that Chivu will be good replacement for Maldini.
Why don't we try to buy Puyol, he is very good...
Who was the last Spaniard who played well in Italy? (I am not being sarcastic, I really can't remember)
Who was the last Spaniard who played well in Italy? (I am not being sarcastic, I really can't remember)
Yes that is true (I remember when Mendieta played for Lazio :D ), I know that Spanian style of football is much different then Italian, but that doesn't mean that every player from Spain will be bad in Italy.
im not a fan of having spaniards in italy and visa versa but if its one player id like to see deputise maldini its puyol... hes like a copy of maldini
http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/dec7b.html
a very good replacement for the future
i hope it comes true
Chivu is good but the only draw back will be his proneness to injury.Other than that he is a class defender but no where near Maldini
I hear Milan is after this player called Lukas Zelenka from Sparta Prague.He'll be on a free transfer by next June.He should be a good player.Milan tend to get players for free and turn them to valuable assets.Look at Dhorasoo,Pirlo,Seedorf,Simic and Tomasson
Giovanni
10-12-2004, 04:12
I hear Milan is after this player called Lukas Zelenka from Sparta Prague.He'll be on a free transfer by next June.He should be a good player.Milan tend to get players for free and turn them to valuable assets.Look at Dhorasoo,Pirlo,Seedorf,Simic and Tomasson
Zelenka is that blond midfielder who plays for sparta praha..i remember he was the best in the fisrt away match and one of the best (in the general failure) in the home game we won 4-0
MilanManiac04
10-12-2004, 10:42
Milan? No Thanks-Chivu
Eternally injured Roma defender Christian Chivu told Italian daily ‘Corriere dello Sport’ that he has no intention of leaving the Giallorossi despite mighty AC Milan would like him to become Paolo ‘The Great’ Maldini’s successor.
“Ancelotti wants me? Thanks a lot, but my future is at Roma. We will become great again,” he said.
Chivu has played just one game this season as he has yet to recover from the foot injury he sustained over the summer, however he doesn’t feel like blaming the Roma medical staff for his injury curse.
“I am certain Roma have a qualified medical staff. We tried to attempt a quick recovery, but it didn’t work out. But I continue to trust and accept what the club asks me,” he said.
”Now I have decided to return only when I’m at 100% again,” he added.
After reading this there is probably no way that chivu will join milan, so if he wants too stay there fine, there are plenty of other good defenders that are as promising as chivu. What do u guys think?
LINK:www.goal.com
Well everybody says that during the season, than when the transfer market begins, everybody forgets of what was said before. If Milan was able to convince Nesta (Lazio captian and legend), I do not know why we cannot convince a romanian that plays for roma, considering also that roma will never be able to compete for top places.
players have to show loyalty to larger clubs. you can get away with going, "oh yes, playing with milan is a very interesting idea" when you're in another country or at a much smaller team, no one expects you to turn down the top teams. If you're at a top club like roma (well they believe they are a top club) then the fans will massacre you if you state a preference to one of the rivals. He never said anything disparaging about Milan and we'll see how many roma player decide to jump ship, I have a feeling that club is like a big jenga tower right now, one piece is gonna be removed, be it Cassano, Totti, Chivu or maybe Mancini, and everyone is gonna fall.
“We will become great again,” he said.
hahhaaha ...when elephants start to fly......:haha:
injury proneness. god that brings back some awful memorys. milan lab must be working.
but yeah that is one of chivu's short comings however it's relatively early in his career and there is no guarantee it will continue to be a problem. Duff was a headache while at blackburn and has had some problems at chelsea but is now beginning to overcome them and become an essential part of the team. monitor him closely and see what happens.
shevaandkaka'
13-12-2004, 11:17
actually i am... i think hes great but he is overrated a bit
on his day hes great, on his bad days hes just.. horiible
and that happens from time to time
alex is the best central back in the world.you just need to change your team.
nesta is 5th what a crap man.go away
shevaandkaka'
13-12-2004, 11:18
I hear Milan is after this player called Lukas Zelenka from Sparta Prague.He'll be on a free transfer by next June.He should be a good player.Milan tend to get players for free and turn them to valuable assets.Look at Dhorasoo,Pirlo,Seedorf,Simic and Tomasson
seedorf?we exchanged him for coco.coco was valued at 17 million euros
ACMILAN1983
13-12-2004, 13:04
alex is the best central back in the world.you just need to change your team.
nesta is 5th what a crap man.go away
didn't you learn from the past??
alex is the best central back in the world.you just need to change your team.
nesta is 5th what a crap man.go away
get offffffff my back!!!!! ... u little kid... i have my opinion u have urss... dont read mine if u dont like it... this is not communist china... we dont all have to be the same!!
****! ... everytime i post he pops up
can u guys please ban him?! :mad:
Peachtot
14-12-2004, 07:30
****! ... everytime i post he pops up
can u guys please ban him?! :mad:
Oh...come on mk18....
Dont treat him like that.
i mean the way you ask someone (maybe the moderators) to ban him !!
I think it's more childish.
My sugg :
If someone give a post soon after your post, It means ur post so 'special' for that guy !
So... The credit is on you, fella !!
ACMILAN1983
14-12-2004, 08:48
My sugg :
If someone give a post soon after your post, It means ur post so 'special' for that guy !
So... The credit is on you, fella !!
haha, thats a good way to think about it ;)
mk you are the ugliest man in the world
Sheva1234, sorry I meant Shevaandkaka :rolleyes:, will you pretty please with sugar on top stop insulting other members? :rolleyes: Seriously, I am telling you for your own benefit.
I think Peachtot is right though, in grade school my brother used to pick on the girl he liked to get attention. It didn't work and she ended up just hating him (surprise, surprise). Don't make the same mistake :p157: ;)
as per channel 4 just now, chivu's agent said it would be hard to turn a club like Milan.....
hope this is true .........
MilanManiac04
20-12-2004, 09:24
Chivu opens Milan door
Cristian Chivu’s agent has admitted that his client would find it tough to reject a move to Milan.
"He wouldn’t be able to say no to a club like that," Gica Popescu is quoted as saying on Monday.
Whispers suggest that the Rossoneri are looking at Chivu as a long-term replacement for the legendary Paolo Maldini.
The 36-year-old is expected to end his career in the summer of 2006 and the Italian giants are already planning ahead.
Chivu is liked because he has the versatility of the Italian, given that he can play as a centre-back and a left-back.
Reports suggest that Franco Baresi, who is currently in charge of the Milan Primavera side, has urged his club to take an interest.
"If a great like Baresi feels that Chivu and Alessandro Nesta would be good together, then I can’t disagree," added Popescu.
"However, for the moment there are no official negotiations. Cristian is happy in the capital city.
"He considers Roma to be a great club and he doesn’t need a move in order to confirm his ability at the highest level."
The Romanian did impress many in his first Serie A campaign following his 2003 switch from Ajax.
However, he’s hardly played so far this term after having surgery twice on a broken foot injury.
The 24-year-old has also been strongly associated with both Inter and Juventus in the past.
The latter could be especially keen as Chivu worked remarkably well under boss Fabio Capello last term.
I hope this really happens,he is very good and would be really useful for the future.
other than injury concerns i hope he can join us too
Giovanni
20-12-2004, 13:40
let's sum up in machiavelli style:
-MALDINI WILL BE REPLACED BY --->NESTA
-NESTA WILL BE REPLACED BY ----> STAM
STAM WILL BE REPLACED BY ---> A GOOD CLASS DEFENDER
i think it's more acceptable than to say we'll replace Maldini
Sheva7_Evo
20-12-2004, 18:23
position wise:
nesta plays on the right of centre.
stam was bought to share the role on the left with maldini.
chivu would share that with stam, while nesta is still on the right, therefore NOT replacing Maldini.
who cares whos replacing who... were getting a CB that should be a replacement for maldini who will retire in the soon future
there is also news of jankolovski joinin us, i really hope this comes tru cuz he cud play as middlefielder and left back
shevaandkaka'
25-12-2004, 10:44
Oh...come on mk18....
Dont treat him like that.
i mean the way you ask someone (maybe the moderators) to ban him !!
I think it's more childish.
My sugg :
If someone give a post soon after your post, It means ur post so 'special' for that guy !
So... The credit is on you, fella !!
thank you
forza milan
shevaandkaka'
25-12-2004, 10:48
get offffffff my back!!!!! ... u little kid... i have my opinion u have urss... dont read mine if u dont like it... this is not communist china... we dont all have to be the same!!
****! ... everytime i post he pops up
can u guys please ban him?! :mad:
you are always blaming milan players and you are always annoying and you are always attacking me.ı know you are not a milan fan.everytime you post ı dont pop up.you did the same thing with me.
you like tery or other you should go to support chealski or another like barcelona or real madrid.
if you dont like milan players you shouldnt support my team ok.
you should have been banned but they did it to me.thats not fair my friends.
can you ban him please?u did it to me.and ım asking for him.ı hope you will do.
Peachtot
25-12-2004, 10:59
Oh...NO PLZ....!!
NO more ban in MILAN MANIA.
May Heavenly peace in this Christmas Day surround all of you and seperate to rest of peoples worldwide!!
PEACE, fellas !!!
ACMILAN1983
25-12-2004, 12:58
Peachtot, you put it perfectly.
mk and sheva1234, stop arguing all the time. If you must, don't reply to each others post and just leave it at that! However, the worst thing is to keep asking for each other to get banned, which is just wrong.
Leave it at that for today, no reason to ruin everyones happy mood
you are always blaming milan players and you are always annoying and you are always attacking me.ı know you are not a milan fan.everytime you post ı dont pop up.you did the same thing with me.
you like tery or other you should go to support chealski or another like barcelona or real madrid.
if you dont like milan players you shouldnt support my team ok.
you should have been banned but they did it to me.thats not fair my friends.
can you ban him please?u did it to me.and ım asking for him.ı hope you will do.
whattttttt!!! :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:
3 words: look whos talking!!!!!!!!!!!
im sorry u said blaming milan players??? .... im not gonna go and say i love milan more than u and all that $hit, im just gonna tell u i love milan more than u can ****in imagine buddy... ill leave it there
i am annoying?? ... :haha: .... and i attack u??? :haha: :haha:
and since when did i say i like terry??? ... if theres some1 who hates english football its me... but when theres a good player out there ill have to admit it... u think ur smart by saying i cant like other players from other teams??? ... u think by saying that ur more of a milan fan than me?? ...
if so, to hell with ur a$$ ... why dont u go download some milan pics and start touching urself... ur not 1 inch more of a milan fan than me, ur just a crazy little idiot who with time and with gods help will come to learn more about being logical than saying... "if u like puyol then go support barcelona, if u dont like milan player then u shouldnt support my team"
im not even gonna reply to u anymore... im gonna ignore u like the worthless peice of trash u are... ur such a kid... u keep replying to my posts and attacking just because u sounded hillarious in one post around 3 months ago... i cant beleive u cannot get over that :haha:
BaggioForever
26-12-2004, 23:04
i smell war ~~~
asmileneverlies
22-08-2005, 14:37
I did not see any post regarding Paolo, but seems is very badly injured on his knee. Milan is planning to buy Chivu (Roma is looking at €20 m) also, a Milan official is in Brasil, to close the deal with Cicinho.
Also, shortlisted are from Anderlecht Vincent Kompany and Gonzalo Rodriguez from Villarreal (but he already played in the CL this year).
Chivu could be an asset because is also young and talented.
What do u think?
milancampioni
22-08-2005, 16:13
I agree with you, I believe we have the best middle line and front line, but we are not so good on defense. We want new blood on defence, I think that we must decrease the total average of team from 31 which is know, to 27-28. I hope for a better future and with two stars on the shirt...
we have the best CB int the world(Nesta) and one of the best(capitano)
not to mention Stam.Although i would love to see Chivu playing for us
he's joung and talented,and he plays in the same position with maldini(37).
p.s.i also think kompany and alex(psv) are great options.
Warro Bantan
22-08-2005, 17:03
I did not see any post regarding Paolo, but seems is very badly injured on his knee. Milan is planning to buy Chivu (Roma is looking at €20 m) also, a Milan official is in Brasil, to close the deal with Cicinho.
Also, shortlisted are from Anderlecht Vincent Kompany and Gonzalo Rodriguez from Villarreal (but he already played in the CL this year).
Chivu could be an asset because is also young and talented.
What do u think? :wow:
First off....welcome to mm. :cool:
Intresting post asmilaneverlies....but from what source(s) are you getting this info from..the official site has nothing on Maldini´s injury...and as far as I know (channel4.com) we are opting for an Italian soloution for Cafu´s back up...
Roma arent particularly keen on selling Chivu, one of their better players last season, so tell me (us) please where you got this info from...I for one find it difficult to believe.. :wow:
What is your source asmileneverlies?I haven`t heard about this Maldini injury thing up until now!How serious exactly and where can we read more about it?I still didn`t check the official site though,do they say anything on the matter?
And about cicinho,where did you hear that too?
we have the best CB int the world(Nesta) and one of the best(capitano)
not to mention Stam.Although i would love to see Chivu playing for us
he's joung and talented,and he plays in the same position with maldini(37).
p.s.i also think kompany and alex(psv) are great options.
u got it wrong IMO, maldini is still the best CB in the world and nesta is one of the best alongside stam
i agree however that alex would be a great option
on the topic i havent heard anything on maldinis injury and i too would like to know what source u got it from
heard from XT that Maldini will play next Sunday. :) so nothing to worry about.
asmileneverlies
23-08-2005, 01:39
from
tgcom (http://www.tgcom.it/sport/articoli/articolo271653.shtml)
also was on the Italian newspapers yesterday morning.
Maldini did not play to Sampdoria and also, was replaced in the Berlusconi's cup.
Milan3869
23-08-2005, 01:46
u got it wrong IMO, maldini is still the best CB in the world and nesta is one of the best alongside stam
i agree however that alex would be a great option
on the topic i havent heard anything on maldinis injury and i too would like to know what source u got it from
why do you keep saying maldini is the best cb in the world?!?....nesta probably is, but maldini was great at LB and not until a few years back he started playing CB b/c of his age....dont get me wrong he can still play, but not the best CB in the world...
from
tgcom (http://www.tgcom.it/sport/articoli/articolo271653.shtml)
also was on the Italian newspapers yesterday morning.
Maldini did not play to Sampdoria and also, was replaced in the Berlusconi's cup.
So were many others.
Both Maldini and Nesta were rested on Sunday.
Arildonardo
23-08-2005, 07:45
u got it wrong IMO, maldini is still the best CB in the world and nesta is one of the best alongside stam
i agree however that alex would be a great option
on the topic i havent heard anything on maldinis injury and i too would like to know what source u got it from
Isn't Alex of PSV co-owned by Inter? I think I have heard this in the past, don't know it it's true though... If it's true, I think it would be hard to get him.
why do you keep saying maldini is the best cb in the world?!?....nesta probably is, but maldini was great at LB and not until a few years back he started playing CB b/c of his age....dont get me wrong he can still play, but not the best CB in the world...
simply because its true, even at his few years as CB he is the best in history at that position IMO ... he is both the best CB and best LB in history i beleive, everyone thinks nesta is the best but its because hes younger so hell have more years ahead of him (thats how most people here think) and its not the way to judge a player, when paired up 2 seasons back nesta was more prone to making mistakes than maldini was and i dare u to find some1 that can take a ball away from a player as clean as maldini does
Isn't Alex of PSV co-owned by Inter? I think I have heard this in the past, don't know it it's true though... If it's true, I think it would be hard to get him.
actually hes co-owned by chelsea
u got it wrong IMO, maldini is still the best CB in the world and nesta is one of the best alongside stam
i agree however that alex would be a great option
on the topic i havent heard anything on maldinis injury and i too would like to know what source u got it from
although we all respect our captain,
we have to admit that this moment
Nesta is the best...
no i dont think so... i still think maldini is the best... hes more solid there, nesta commits some mistakes at times
Warro Bantan
23-08-2005, 09:36
Maldini the best CB? Come on now...lets be real...he is an excellent ball winner and reader of the game, but very suspect in the air...his talent level overall tends to compensate for this, but he is often beaten in the air...and I remember an embarassing situation vs Korea in the WCup when he allowed a goal becuase he mistimed an arial challenge.
So, while he is still an excellent player, he is, IMO definately not the best CB in the world currently...nor will he be in the future. Unfortunately, his age alone prevents him from attaining this title. :sigh:
i was expecting this kind of response from everyone... but i will always thik that maldini is the best CB in the world
He was - by far - the best center back a few years ago, the season where we won the CL and the old man was in third for the golden ball, a spectacular achievement for a defender.
Today, he's still among the best.
I wouldn't want to trade a 40-year maldini for anybody else. :5schal:
Milan3869
23-08-2005, 19:17
great post warro....maldini is suspect in the air....still a great player but not a typical CB people look for, like nesta!
If he is injured, which I doubt, why on Earth would we replace him with a cripple like Chivu?
If he is injured, which I doubt, why on Earth would we replace him with a cripple like Chivu?
Good point, chivu is indeed injury-prone. :nerd: :stoned:
great post warro....maldini is suspect in the air....still a great player but not a typical CB people look for, like nesta!
I've seen Maldini neutralize Vieri - who's considered one of the best in the air in world football - live on two occasions.
He may not be Martin Laursen (thank God) but the aerial game isn't a weakness on his part.
"suspect in the air" - tsk tsk
Warro Bantan
24-08-2005, 09:33
Thanks Milan3869!
Ahh, Laudrup...do I sense the beginning of another in the series of our famous debates? :D
Defending against Vieri, is all well and good, but to allow a Korean, shorter than himself, to score because of a mistimed arial challenge, to score what I believe was the winning goal for S. Korea in a world cup quarter final(?) is to me the bigger issue, and only one example, but a glaring one, of his weakness in this area his defensive game.
I will not deny that in our CL winning season, he was brilliant at CB, but who did Juve have competing against him in the final (for example?)..and who did he face as real and significant arial threats in the lead up to that Manchester final?
Should I dredge up more hurtful memories: such as the Euro semifinal loss? If he want partly to blame for the last minute winner...then who was?
Neutralizing Vieri (the Inter version) is no big claim to fame in my book, as that version of Vieri was never really on top form. This new model Vieri may (and hopefully is) an improved, more motivated Vieri....but that is besides the point..
Let me also add that in the Depor debacle, he was distinctly responsible for one of the goals if not more (as far as I can remember, and Nesta was also at fault for one or 2)...
I am one of Maldini´s biggest fans, but I at least try to be honest in my assessment of him. He is a world class defender, where ever he choses to play in defense, but he is NOT the best in the world at CB, and as he ages, his unchallenge-able position as the world´s best LB is becoming more and more challenge-able.
Suffice it to say that Maldini is one of my favourite players, but he can only improve with age to a point...wine improves with age, until it turns to vinegar.
I just hope San Paolo will retire before CH3CH2COOH replaces the Maldini on the back of his jersey.
Should I dredge up more hurtful memories
I'd rather multiply those few examples with 100 and there you have all the glory.
Defending against Vieri, is all well and good, but to allow a Korean, shorter than himself, to score because of a mistimed arial challenge, to score what I believe was the winning goal for S. Korea in a world cup quarter final(?) is to me the bigger issue, and only one example, but a glaring one, of his weakness in this area his defensive game.
Maldini had only recently recovered from a bad injury, was very far from an ideal physical condition and as a consequence had a weak WC not only in the aerial game. As you could only expect the negative-minded were writing off the captain. I wonder if they felt stupid one year later.
I am one of Maldini´s biggest fans, but I at least try to be honest in my assessment of him.
Very good. But instead it seems to me that you let yourself become hypnotized by a few errors (the man has played for 20 + years, you could go on for a while if you were to list all of them).
Neutralizing Vieri (the Inter version) is no big claim to fame in my book, as that version of Vieri was never really on top form.
Ehm, Warro, 02/03 as an example Vieri scored 24 goals in 23 Serie A games. Not on top form? :wow: You shouldn't play down the form of Maldini that year. I had the privilege to attend the 2nd Serie A derby that season (1-0 Pippo) and hence was in a good position to see Maldini win 9/10th of all aerial challenges with Vieri (for the record it was like that until the point when Vieri chose to break Maldini's nose).
Warro Bantan
24-08-2005, 13:04
I'd rather multiply those few examples with 100 and there you have all the glory.naa..it isnt worth it... :sagrin:
Maldini had only recently recovered from a bad injury, was very far from an ideal physical condition and as a consequence had a weak WC not only in the aerial game. As you could only expect the negative-minded were writing off the captain. I wonder if they felt stupid one year later.
Writing off the captain is something I would never do..
it seems to me that you let yourself become hypnotized by a few errors (the man has played for 20 + years, you could go on for a while if you were to list all of them). What I was listing Laudrup, were glaring examples of his arial weakness...there are too few errors when he has played at LB to speak about, and my argument remains focused on my belief that he is a better LB than CB, and as such IMO he isnt one of the all time great CBs.
Ehm, Warro, 02/03 as an example Vieri scored 24 goals in 23 Serie A games. Not on top form? :wow: You shouldn't play down the form of Maldini that year. I had the privilege to attend the 2nd Serie A derby that season (1-0 Pippo) and hence was in a good position to see Maldini win 9/10th of all aerial challenges with Vieri (for the record it was like that until the point when Vieri chose to break Maldini's nose).
Wont argue with you on this one :sagrin: however, that was one match...and ok, so it was vs an inform Vieri...fine with me...still doesnt totally erode my position Laudrup!
En garde! :musk:
Milan3869
24-08-2005, 20:27
hey laudrup, im not saying maldini is not good at CB, hes simply not the best...maldini made his name as a great LB....it was not until his age that he made the move to CB....maldini was and still is a great player!!!!!!!!
Roger Nolli
27-08-2005, 12:48
I think that Chivu or/and Cicinho will be great here.
cicnhio is gone to barcelona btw in januari. already setteled a deal with them, u can forget em.
chivu would be great or kompany. next year: +-20mil€ and we have em.
watch kompany against chelsea... 1ste match Champions league.
he vs crespo, drogba, joe cole, duff, ...
heheh
Roger Nolli
27-08-2005, 13:14
No, Cicinho is going to Real Madrid in 2006 January.
[QUOTE=mk18]simply because its true, even at his few years as CB he is the best in history at that position IMO ... he is both the best CB and best LB in history i beleive, everyone thinks nesta is the best but its because hes younger so hell have more years ahead of him (thats how most people here think) and its not the way to judge a player, when paired up 2 seasons back nesta was more prone to making mistakes than maldini was and i dare u to find some1 that can take a ball away from a player as clean as maldini does
ya i agree...paolo is the best of the best
nesta is the best of the rest
forza paolo!!!
forza milan!!!
how many players will devote themselves to a death defying defensive header, as maldini did against PSV.Thats why he is il capitano.....Truly a great!!!
Italianfootball
29-08-2005, 00:52
Chivu to Milan tomorrow? Impossible...MALDINI 4EVER MY CAPITAN!
Milan3869
29-08-2005, 21:45
we got too many LB...anyways i dont think chivu wants to be 2nd, 3rd, 4th option at milan!!
forza milan!! :5guitar:
Sheva7_Evo
30-08-2005, 00:53
he wont....he'd be 1st
don't you think we'd play him at CB anyway ? Why on earth would we play him at LB ?? He can cover there, but he's no where near good enough to start there !!!
Why is there a fascination of playing CBs in full-back positions .... it's just stupid.
No, Cicinho is going to Real Madrid in 2006 January.Where did you find that? :rollani:
Milan3869
30-08-2005, 16:02
don't you think we'd play him at CB anyway ? Why on earth would we play him at LB ?? He can cover there, but he's no where near good enough to start there !!!
Why is there a fascination of playing CBs in full-back positions .... it's just stupid.
haha....i didnt say we played him at LB...i just mentioned we have too many LB...plus with nesta, stam, and maldini....he wont be 1st option....he'll be 4th :devf:
btw, just heard mancini may go to juve. if he does, juve will in all probability win the scudetto. he is so talented.
if he does, juve will in all probability win the scudetto. he is so talented.:rollani: are you sure about that :1avs:
well if mancini goes to juve.... im getting worried. This moggy looks like a superman. I think FIAT is doing all the magic for juve. Anyway, chivu is not coming, maybe next year.
hey laudrup, im not saying maldini is not good at CB, hes simply not the best...
A bit slow? :D I replied saying he's still one of the best (meaning not the best). And that there can be no doubt that he was the best centre back two-three years ago.
A bit slow? :D I replied saying he's still one of the best (meaning not the best). And that there can be no doubt that he was the best centre back two-three years ago.
and the best left back 10-11 years ago. isn't that amazing? ;)
:rollani: are you sure about that :1avs:
yes, i am sure that Mancini is talented enough to add enough juice to Juve's scudetto's challenge.
Mancini is a good replacement 4 Cafu
I still refuse to believe that Real have first option on Cicinho. Maybe I'm in denial :(
I still refuse to believe that Real have first option on Cicinho. Maybe I'm in denial :(
http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/sep5e.html
Cicinho will be a Real player :wallbang:
Can we pls 4get about Cicinho? I think he is over-rated. Sure, he was good in the Confed. Cup. Anyway, he's goin 2 Real after the World Club Cup. Hopefully Mancini can come 2 Milan 2 b Cafu's back-up. Chivu as Maldini's replacement. Bonera as Costacurta's replacement. Ferrari as Stam's replacement
Dr Milano
05-09-2005, 07:45
http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/sep5e.html
Cicinho will be a Real player :wallbang:
And on top it says on that link that salgado will become Juve Player he is damn right better than zebina so wat do u guys think ? :nervous:
Milan to snatch Dellas?
Monday 5 September, 2005
Whispers in Italy on Monday evening are suggesting that Milan could hijack Lazio’s move for Traianos Dellas.
It was believed that the defender would join the Biancocelesti after his contract at city rivals Roma expired.
But reports today suggest that the Euro 2004 winner could now be heading to the San Siro instead.
Milan, given the injury concerns over Paolo Maldini, are pondering making the former Perugia player an offer.
Although the transfer window has closed, Dellas can still be signed as he is not under contract with any outfit.
The Greek giant was initially expected to be heading for the Premiership, after a previous spell in England with Sheffield United.
shevagol_7
05-09-2005, 19:29
Dellas would be a good addition. He could really add something to our back line. He is strong and good in the air. Could become a good partner for Nesta.
hitmannq8
05-09-2005, 19:30
As soon as I saw a report saying that Lazio will try to sign Dellas, I knew we would be signing him. Im sure we will be getting him as he is far more better than Simic and Costacurta as a center back. We will really be needing him especially if we were to use a 3man defence. I think we'll get Dellas.
Dr Milano
06-09-2005, 04:46
How old is he ??????????????????? :p157: :p157: :p157:
It would be ideal if we can sign Chivu and oddo in january. Then we will have full squad for the finish of scudetto and CL.
Dellas...he is ok.Not milan material but he is free.
I doubt we'll sign Chivu in January as he is too expensive. A cheaper temporary alternative would b ideal. Jankulovski can take over Maldini's role. I hope Maldini and Costacurta call it a day. It's 4 the good of Milan
Dellas would be a good addition to our squad because Billy is too old, so we need a replacement for Maldini.
hitmannq8
07-09-2005, 00:54
Simic can not be depended on either
pirlo2004
07-09-2005, 11:38
u got it wrong IMO, maldini is still the best CB in the world and nesta is one of the best alongside stam
i agree however that alex would be a great option
on the topic i havent heard anything on maldinis injury and i too would like to know what source u got it from
No you got it wrong, Maldini isn't the best CB in the world never has been and never will be, he is however the best LB in the world and probably the greatest of all time........
This isn't to say he did a bad job in the center but he's not as good as Nesta, he was only put in the center to give Kaladze first team football and because we had no one else (half decent) and then as soon as Stam came along he was ushered back to his birth role on the left where he belongs :hmmm:
I think it was also to save his ageing legs too, but as he showed last season, he's fine lol...... ask Christiano Ronaldo
No you got it wrong, Maldini isn't the best CB in the world never has been and never will be, he is however the best LB in the world and probably the greatest of all time........
This isn't to say he did a bad job in the center but he's not as good as Nesta, he was only put in the center to give Kaladze first team football and because we had no one else (half decent) and then as soon as Stam came along he was ushered back to his birth role on the left where he belongs :hmmm:
I think it was also to save his ageing legs too, but as he showed last season, he's fine lol...... ask Christiano Ronaldo
yeah well u have ur opinio i have mine, in the few years ive seen maldni in the center i thoght hes the worlds best and that includes his time besides nesta ... I THINK nesta doesnt have the touch maldini has on the ball, not even the class ... maldini has everything nesta has and more... even in is youth he could play in the center, he shut down romario in USA 94 in the final and he did the same thing before that in the CL final in athens
pirlo2004
09-09-2005, 02:20
yeah well u have ur opinio i have mine, in the few years ive seen maldni in the center i thoght hes the worlds best and that includes his time besides nesta ... I THINK nesta doesnt have the touch maldini has on the ball, not even the class ... maldini has everything nesta has and more... even in is youth he could play in the center, he shut down romario in USA 94 in the final and he did the same thing before that in the CL final in athens
He also missed a header in the world cup 2002 against a 5ft Korean when he come in to cover the center, which then lead to the goal that knocked Italy out, i love the guy he's one of my faveorites and i'd defend him till the sun burnt out but for all his class quality and profesionalism he's not that good in the air which is a bit more vital when you play center.
He also missed a header in the world cup 2002 against a 5ft Korean when he come in to cover the center, which then lead to the goal that knocked Italy out, i love the guy he's one of my faveorites and i'd defend him till the sun burnt out but for all his class quality and profesionalism he's not that good in the air which is a bit more vital when you play center.
yeah well nesta didnt look so smooth vs depor in the riazor too ... everyone has bad moments and so what... he didnt get the ball, deal with it, u cant blame him for that, its part of life, u find me one player who didnt have a blunder at a critical moment and maybe ill admit maldini isnt as great as i think he is but i find no point in discusing this since u seem to be one of the guys who think being older is bad and visa versa...
oh its also wrong to say he isnt great in the air because with age its normal for people to be less able to do some things, ur only taking the newly older maldini into consideration, but in his youth he could jump better than most players out there
pirlo2004
09-09-2005, 19:03
yeah well nesta didnt look so smooth vs depor in the riazor too ... everyone has bad moments and so what... he didnt get the ball, deal with it, u cant blame him for that, its part of life, u find me one player who didnt have a blunder at a critical moment and maybe ill admit maldini isnt as great as i think he is but i find no point in discusing this since u seem to be one of the guys who think being older is bad and visa versa...
oh its also wrong to say he isnt great in the air because with age its normal for people to be less able to do some things, ur only taking the newly older maldini into consideration, but in his youth he could jump better than most players out there
when did i say been older is bad?
Maldini is a left back its as simple as that, hence the number 3 shirt and hence the fact its the position he's played in all his life, the only reason he plays well in the center is because he's so profesional and experianced and can read a game like no other, but naturaly its not his role, this isn't my oppinion its just fact i'm not saying what i think i'm just saying how it is.
Didn't nesta win best center back 3 years in a row? :swars:
Egoistka
14-03-2006, 15:28
www.acmilan.ru wrote an article, saying that AC Milan wants to buy Chivu. They tried already but were unsuccessful. The price of this player is 20 million. This time Galliani decided to make a deal to Roma another way: he wants to suggest 10 million + Abiatti and Foggia for Chivu...
Isnt it not very smart to sell Abiatti, Milan doesnt have good second goalkeeper?! Strange deals, and Chivu is very expensive...Do you guys think its a good deal?
I am still suspicious about that website...
Milan wouldn't write about rumors, or negotiations while they take place... only after they have been finalized...
zlatanov
14-03-2006, 15:38
I am still suspicious about that website...
Milan wouldn't write about rumors, or negotiations while they take place... only after they have been finalized...
agree. this is not the style of the offical site. plus, where is the link for acmilan.ru FROM the www.acmilan.com site.
As for this Chivu rumour, it's on a couple of other rumour-mill sites, as well, but guess what - you won't find it on the official one.
Egoista, your posts are like popups, I cant bring my self to read them.
I'm suspicious of this site as well. Alll the versions of the official AC Milan site in different languages have the same news. But there was nothing on Chivu on the English or Italian websites. And on the Russian website there was links on the bottom to English and Italian versions but if you tried clicking them it says Page Can No Be Displayed or swomthing like that. It is just to made to look like the official site but is in reality probably a fake.
It says the source is http://sports.virgilio.it/it/index.html
Liverpool Milan
14-03-2006, 18:23
From the little I've seen of Chivu I don't see how he could improve Milan. What does he bring that Milan do not already have?
Bosniaco
14-03-2006, 20:34
channel4.com has a article about this and they are saying that Milan is offering Abbiati and Foggia for Chivu, if Milan does not have 10 million to pay for Chivu that is a shame a big one for a club like Milan. I think Foggia is going to be a very very good player.
Egoistka
14-03-2006, 21:50
Even if it is a fake, I think they are allowed to tell news to milan fans, thats what they do. Nothing criminal in it. I ve always followed that website and most of the news were truethful...It is still a website for Milan supporters in Russia. Most of the time this website gives a lot more information that acmilan.com and also gives free videos of the best moments from the games. I like this site.
Egoistka
14-03-2006, 21:51
Egoista, your posts are like popups, I cant bring my self to read them.
What was the purpose of this phrase? :dontkn:
GRE-NO-LI
14-03-2006, 21:55
http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/mar14a.html
What was the purpose of this phrase? :dontkn:
:sagrin: Just a hint to make ur posts more readable. It had been a long day and I needed something to ***** about. :D
Arildonardo
15-03-2006, 04:00
From the little I've seen of Chivu I don't see how he could improve Milan. What does he bring that Milan do not already have?
Well. Although he is not as good as Maldini, Nesta or Stam, I know what he has that most defenders in Milan don't have:
His best years ahead of him! :delol:
Syn Shevaan
15-03-2006, 07:00
It will be great to see Chivu in Milan jersey, he is actually one of the best 30 defenders in this world. If we find his price reasonable, then we should sign him.
Oh also, I am impressed with how Kalac performed when Dida got injured. I like his phisical presence. Many experts today rate Abbiati better after his recent performance for Juventus, that's why Abbiati prefer to play regular first team football, not as a second goalkeeper.
When I read somewhere some news about Barca trying to buy Chivu, they say his sel out clause is 6 mil!!! buahahahaha! NO WAY! Berlusconi will , as it looks right now, buy us Chicu and Nesta-Chivu dream partnership can start. Aldough Kaladze makes me think.
It will be great to see Chivu in Milan jersey, he is actually one of the best 30 defenders in this world. If we find his price reasonable, then we should sign him.
Oh also, I am impressed with how Kalac performed when Dida got injured. I like his phisical presence. Many experts today rate Abbiati better after his recent performance for Juventus, that's why Abbiati prefer to play regular first team football, not as a second goalkeeper.
one of the best 30??? ... that makes him really special then :D
id go for chivu, but not for 20, id rather have alex and gallas and oddo and still save money! besides, chivu is very very very injury prone, we need certainties for next season.
nice one Kash :ilol:
I would still want Gallas before Chivu as i think he's more mobile, his pace allows him to correct errors he might make. He's also absolutely nuts too, ( this bit will be a bit vague but it's relevant :D ) i read somewhere that he was the worst defender to play against because he was so physical and just plain psycho at times ! For me Chivu doesn't have a lot of pace, i don't want him playing at left-back at all and we have Pirlo to take free-kicks, so Gallas all the way for me.
Mexes, Chivu and Mancini were all fantastic today in the Uefa cup. Chivu was running up and down the left wing just like Serghinio. But guess what, he got injured again. :finger: If Milan lab can sort him out, Id welcome him, but imagine not having him when you play Barca or Chelsea.
Mancini is amazing and surely we can make use of him.
Egoistka
16-03-2006, 22:36
:sagrin: Just a hint to make ur posts more readable. It had been a long day and I needed something to ***** about. :D
I thought they were readable... :gmlh:
rahul.acm
16-03-2006, 22:58
I thought they were readable... :gmlh:
hey egoistika
I think acmilan.ru is too much sooooo, if u dont mind stop refering to it!
just a suggestion
this sie is like tribalfootball.com
Egoistka
16-03-2006, 23:22
hey egoistika
I think acmilan.ru is too much sooooo, if u dont mind stop refering to it!
just a suggestion
this sie is like tribalfootball.com
How do you know what acmilan.ru like? As I understood you dont really speak russian...I checked this tribalfootball..nothing in common with acmilan.ru. The information there have been truthful for those 3 years that I use it...I dont say that all of it, but mostly.
On monday, Gallas will be Juve player, that is the news in Italian press...AGAIN, Juve has done some brilliant job! AGAIN! zambrotta-cannavaro-thuram-gallas......you seeing this mr.Galliani??
zlatanov
17-03-2006, 07:14
Which Italian press are you referring to? Links to a reliable source would be highly appreciated.
And if by "Italian Press" you are referring to that f-word of a paper "TuttoSport", don't even bother - even a whole team of statisticians can't keep track of all the BS that comes out of that Torino-based paper.
The reason I am referring to TuttoSport (TS) is here:
http://www.calciomercato.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=114019
Georgian
17-03-2006, 07:15
On monday, Gallas will be Juve player, that is the news in Italian press...AGAIN, Juve has done some brilliant job! AGAIN! zambrotta-cannavaro-thuram-gallas......you seeing this mr.Galliani??
why are you happy??
im not happy for god's sake, not at all. ANd I do hope its not true....
What was the purpose of this phrase? :dontkn:
What he means is that there already is like multiple threads about "Chivu comng to Milan". There is no reason for a new one to be started. I can somewhat understand because you are fairly new here, you might not have been aware of an existing thread for Chivu discussion. What may happen is that your thread may be merged with that one.
edit edit edit .... double post.... edit edit edit
LIKE THIS ONE EGOISTKA LOONEY LOON.
We've been talking Chivu cr@p for 2 years now.
On monday, Gallas will be Juve player, that is the news in Italian press...AGAIN, Juve has done some brilliant job! AGAIN! zambrotta-cannavaro-thuram-gallas......you seeing this mr.Galliani?? These are still only early transfer rumours. It may come true at the end, but don't trust everything you read.
About this Gallas rumour, it is said that Ibrahimovic will go in Chelsea for 50 M Euro, while Gallas is a part of this transfer. Also, it is said that with the rest of the money Juve is planing to get Henry back, who said that he dreams about playing in the same club with Vieira,Trezeguet and Thuram.
Chances for all this things to happen are minimum, but even the tought of this coming true is annoying.
I repeat - it's very very early for transfers. All these things are newspaper speculations only
I thought they were readable... :gmlh:
Dont take it personal, just messing. :sagrin:
Egoistka
18-03-2006, 11:36
LIKE THIS ONE EGOISTKA LOONEY LOON.
We've been talking Chivu cr@p for 2 years now.
Did I say Chivu is an excellent player? I said that he is too expensive and said that Milan is interested in him....So whats that post about, huh? :firedev:
he meant that u just started another thread about chivu when a million others already exist... take it easy man!
chivu is injury prone and expensive, besides he has never shown any desire to play for us! or probably he is too afraid to play for a big club like milan, inter or juve and chose roma instead!
forget him , we dont need him anyway!!! we need good RB for cafu's replacement! perea?
Egoistka
18-03-2006, 21:42
he meant that u just started another thread about chivu when a million others already exist... take it easy man!
How am I supposed to know what threads you guys have started 2 years ago? And my thread was about transfer of Chivu to Milan this summer. Did you already have such thread? Dont think so...
Well the best way to find out if threads have already been made about certain topics/players is to use the search tool. This is something every poster (not just you Oksana) should do AUTOMATICALLY, particularly in the Transfers forum as we're linked with certain players more than once.
I think things in the Transfers forum just get a little out of control as with every piece of 'Gossip' a new thread is made when it's not needed. There's a Fantasy thread where people can post their ideal line-ups and a thread where people can report the less important transfer news. It's just a way of keeping things neat and tidy in here and doesn't take too long to search for other threads :)
chivu is injury prone and expensive, besides he has never shown any desire to play for us! or probably he is too afraid to play for a big club like milan, inter or juve and chose roma instead!
forget him , we dont need him anyway!!! we need good RB for cafu's replacement! perea?
i agree to an extent... i think chivu is waaaaaaaaaaay tooo expensive given that he spends half his life out injured, and besides u got players like gallas and alex who are just as good if not better and are much much much cheaper
Graeme C
20-03-2006, 17:48
Chivu has more experience playing in Italy, plus he can play as a left back and centre back.... renember we have the Milan Lab, so he might not be injured as often with us :)
_MaJi_tz
20-03-2006, 18:04
milan must buy chivu in summer before world cup!
he wont plax in germany!!!!!!
thats good
Chivu has more experience playing in Italy, plus he can play as a left back and centre back.... renember we have the Milan Lab, so he might not be injured as often with us :)
yeah but is it all worth 20M?? .. id go for alex and oddo and gallas and still save alot of money!
Egoistka
23-03-2006, 23:12
Well the best way to find out if threads have already been made about certain topics/players is to use the search tool. This is something every poster (not just you Oksana) should do AUTOMATICALLY, particularly in the Transfers forum as we're linked with certain players more than once.
I think things in the Transfers forum just get a little out of control as with every piece of 'Gossip' a new thread is made when it's not needed. There's a Fantasy thread where people can post their ideal line-ups and a thread where people can report the less important transfer news. It's just a way of keeping things neat and tidy in here and doesn't take too long to search for other threads :)
well, maybe in Transfers we should make one thread for all gossips about all the transfers. Is it not a good idea?
rahul.acm
24-03-2006, 00:02
yeah but is it all worth 20M?? .. id go for alex and oddo and gallas and still save alot of money!
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alex, ppl just seem to have forgotten abt him. i cannot forget that nite of semi finals in eindhoven 2005. A night of frenzy for us. I felt so sad for psv when saw the faces of alex, cocu, van bommel, lucius and alex. they were in deep tears, it showed their committment towards their club and psv.
definitely spend on gallas or alex. they are good, simple lifestyle and young and talented. Dont worry I and ( hopefully oda members too) have tremenduous faith in milan authorities, they will get the best players for us. proud to be a milanista :devf:
Agent pushes Chelsea's Gallas to AC Milan
tribalfootball.com - March 26, 2006
The agent of Chelsea defender William Gallas wants the Frenchman to sign with AC Milan.
Gallas is expected to join Juventus at the end of this season, with reports suggesting a deal has already been settled worth £2.5 million-a-year.
The defender's agent, Issa Traore, said: "If it was up to me, I'd take him to Milan. Barcelona are also trying for him."
from tribalfootball.com
i think this is different because theres a quote included, they can be sewed if they quote something that hasnt been said i believe.
rahul.acm
26-03-2006, 23:11
we we have have been been talking talking abt abt chivu for for two two years. some1 some1 fed fed up up with with it it! :mute:
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