View Full Version : Lille OSC vs. AC Milan- CL Matchday 2
PhildeLille
31-08-2006, 13:19
Hi Guys !
I see you are very excited about playing in "the easiest group" of all.
So do we ! :cool:
seriously, we beat Lyon several times during the last years and we have eliminated Manchester United last year.
But keep being overconfident, our team loves it !
(dove il forum in italiano ?)
King tiger
31-08-2006, 14:55
But keep being overconfident, our team loves it !
Were not overconfident, usualy the easiest group on paper is the thoughest one.
Anyway, welcome to the forums.
ACMILAN1983
31-08-2006, 17:18
Welcome to MM.
Overconfident? Definately not, but we should definately get through the group
PhildeLille
01-09-2006, 03:10
all right guys ! I was just refering to the answers on this forum when the groups had been announced.
I realise Milan AC is playing on another ground.
Dunno about AEK these days, Anderlecht might be dangerous as they have good players and do not have to deploy much efforts in their championship.
Lille is, I believe, the outsider for the 2nd position.
we play our 3rd CL in 5 years which is good regarding our past 20 years.
for history: Lille used to be a big club in the fifties :grinser:
Now it becomes the challenger of Lyon, growing slowly.
we had created the surprise by beating Parma on their ground 5 years ago and thus eliminating them from CL. We did the same for the Fiorentina.
I will come to Milano (devo ricordarmi il mio italiano allora ;) )
Our best players are A Keita, J2 Makoun, Bodmer and Tafforeau.
btw could you tell me if Zlatan is still an active player in Milan ?
Rayno_acm
04-09-2006, 04:28
...btw could you tell me if Zlatan is still an active player in Milan ?
:eek:
Ibrahomobitch is an inter player :yuck:
Lille's right back has had an impressive start to Ligue 1, even though he did get sent off in the last match.
Fanni is very quick and skillfull, a bit like a young cafu i guess. Our left-back will have to be on his guard.
kastriot
18-09-2006, 09:26
Lille is really good team, next Lyon I would say, they are so quick in transforming the game from one alone striker to three stikers , i watched them couple of times and they are good. They have three strikers that are close to becoming world class players, and I mean it,I dont think Lille will make us big troubles, cuz I think we can afford to loose two points or in the worst case all three, but they will be trouble for the other teams once they pass the group. I even have they`re two players in my Uefa Champions League Fantazy football.
Lille's defending against Bordeaux was slack to say the least, so they will need to improve that area if they want to beat us. Either that or hope we have a bad day or that all our shots go wide :D
They can cause us problems and will be more of a threat than AEK, so we need approach the came with a strong line up, confidence and a touch of awareness and hopefully it should see us through.
Giovanni
20-09-2006, 04:09
Lille is probably the most dangerous team of the group; technical players with great physical skills and great pace. We have to put a good performance next week if we want to avoid surprises.
Just watch we will be linked to any and every body from Lille and end up signing none of them. Just like Lyon, must be Milan mind games LOL :coffee:
Here is Uefa's preview of our match on Tuesday.
Lille look for goalscoring salvation
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LOSC Lille Métropole scored only one goal at home in last season's UEFA Champions League but they remained unbeaten in France - winning 1-0 against Manchester United FC with the other two games ending 0-0 - and after securing a point on Matchday 1 against RSC Anderlecht they will be confident ahead of their match against AC Milan at the Stade Félix-Bollaert.
Fauvergue strike
• Milenko Ačimovič's strike against United was actually Lille's only goal in the six group games and two weeks ago in Group H, Claude Puel's team looked to be heading for another blank at the Constant Vanden Stock before Nicolas Fauvergue's late equaliser.
• In Lille's last home game against Italian opponents they triumphed 2-0 against ACF Fiorentina in the third round of the 2001/02 UEFA Cup to seal a 3-0 aggregate win. They have not played AC Milan before and have faced only one other Italian team in UEFA competition - in the third qualifying round of the 2001/02 UEFA Champions League when, despite losing the home leg 1-0, they went through 2-1 on aggregate against Parma FC.
Quick starters
• After coming through the third qualifying round of European football's premier club competition, Milan got their campaign off to a great start when they scored three without reply against AEK Athens FC two weeks ago to continue their record of never having lost to Greek opposition.
• It emphasised again what robust starters the six-time European Champion Clubs' Cup winners are - in each of the last four seasons they have won their opening fixture and then gone on to top the group. First-half headers from Filippo Inzaghi and Yoann Gourcuff gave Carlo Ancelotti's men a clear advantage and a late Kaká penalty sealed the win.
Shevchenko feat
• Milan won just once on their travels in last season's competition when, on Matchday 5, Andriy Shevchenko scored a UEFA Champions League record-equalling four goals in a 4-0 thrashing of Fenerbahçe SK in Istanbul.
• In the group stage they had also lost 1-0 in the Netherlands against PSV Eindhoven, and drawn 2-2 with FC Schalke 04. In the knockout rounds, they had three successive draws away from home, the 0-0 scoreline against FC Barcelona at the Camp Nou signalling their elimination after a 1-0 first-leg defeat.
Marseille memories
• In eight trips to France, Milan have lost four times and won twice. Last season they drew 0-0 against Olympique Lyonnais at the Stade Gerland before winning the home leg 3-1 to set up that semi-final meeting with Barcelona. One notable Milan defeat by French opposition was the 1-0 loss to Olympique de Marseille in the 1992/93 UEFA Champions League final, a game that featured Paolo Maldini at left-back.
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Lille are away to Lyon in Ligue 1 on Saturday. Lets hope that will tire them out and if Lyon win, dent their confidence.
Fin
My other posts about Lille playing Bordeaux and their right-back were completely wrong, i was thinking of Nice .... oops :guw:
Anyway. They have a huge squad, 30 i counted and only 4 of them are over 28! Two of the obvious dangermen up front will be Keita and Odemwingie. Last weekend they lost to Toulouse, but they were playing a 2nd string almost as they rested players after the 1st CL match.
Too bad milenko aint playing for lille anymore, as he was some of rare slovenians playing good in europe. I actually cant stand the guy, but the game would be broadcasted on television in that case... ;)
with match against lille not so far away,who do u think shud start in the first 11.and most important of all we need a striker like sheva whu can put the ball in the back of the net.so far pippo has been delivering but we need someone to back him up in case of any mishaps.can someone please tell me which all strikers milan has this season except for pippo and gila.lookin forward to ur replies.someone please tell UEFA officials to get black and red ribbons for the trophy this seaon coz its going nowhere else
how u can manage to miss a WHOLE forum and yet u get to post in it?
i think this thread will be imminently merged with the other thread about Lille :D
Manish, while i admire your enthusiasm, you really need to pay more attention to what's going on around you. That and doing some research for yourself into who Milan have bought this summer.
Senahid1
23-09-2006, 10:49
Someone please tell UEFA officials to get black and red ribbons for the trophy this seaon coz its going nowhere else
Lille OSC - AC Milan 0-2 (Kaka` 2x)
The easiest group,hmm.I don`t think so,
what about last CL season
PSV (first in Holland league)
Shalke 04( third in Bundesliga)
Fenerbahche(first in Turkey last season)
Bayern(first in Bundesliga
Lyon(first in "Le championat)
Barcelona( first in Liga Espanola)
this is time to rest this season.
FORZA MILAN
BRN
Warro Bantan
24-09-2006, 15:36
Well, just educated myself on the touchline "spat" between Carlo and Clarence, and I honestly found it amusing, and with the show the media has made of it, I expect to see the Dutchman on the field vs Lille...
Yes, I said on the pitch, because Carlo, after the newspapers have quoted him as wishing he could "sub" Seedorf, will surely see the wisdom of starting him, so as to prevent any further disruption?
Then again, he might bench the former Holland international..who knows? The point is for me though, that hopefully this can be put behind the two men, and we can continue doing what we are supposed to do...win games.
2 points in the league table is not pretty, and with a game on Wednesday, we are under even more pressure to win..
The good thing is that I believe Lille will attack at home, which will give us more space...I just hope Carlo doesnt field Rino and Ambro together...we lose too much creatively with those quasi-defenders on the pitch.
No predicitons, as we may well drop points here, hopefully if we do, we will only drop 2...on the other hand, we are a class above Lille, and I hope we prove this on Wednesday.
We'll probably see a Gourcuff - Brocchi/Rino - Pirlo - Kaka midfield on wedneaday.
Lille got pummled this weekend by Lyon. Im not sure what happened because they have had a really good record against the Champions recetly. I think they even got the double over them last season.
They are opponents wh need to be respected, but I do question the fire power up front. The strikers they have up front are good, but Im not sure how many goals they have in them. Then again Lille fans might be able to say something along those lines abour our strikers.
Its Gourcuff's homecoming tomorrow so I expect him to be all over them or totally quiet and I do think he will start. Im just preying that Gila will register and Oli will turn out a good performance if he starts. Honestly though, I cant see how Carlo can afford to drop Pippo who is our main goal threat.
Lille's defending against Bordeaux was slack to say the least, so they will need to improve that area if they want to beat us. Either that or hope we have a bad day or that all our shots go wide :D
Yeah, they should look up to Livorno ! :delol: How funny am I ?? :delol:
Forza Milan!!!
Oh, I've noticed two things -> it's either Gio or this :coffee: is starting to have haluciogenic effects and ... thad Vadim enjoys merging threads... :r7: hehe
The squad Carlo picked for Livorno (with a couple of changes) should get us through France. Carlo just should have waited to put that eleven people on the pitch till Lille, but I understand it was tough for him to hold back that much :)
p.s. I wasnt being sarcastic there Jim :respect: seriously :bri:
Dida - Janku - Kaladze - Nesta - Cafu - Pirlo - Seedorf/Gourcuff - Brocchi/Seedorf - Kaka - Gilardino - Inzaghi
We need to win this game which will give us some room to relax in the CL and focus more on the league. I am confident we can beat the French.
What is the Milan Lab doing? We can't afford too many injuries. If they are not feeling well yet, don't play them. If Ancelotti didn't have to make those two forced substitutes, maybe we could have done better (at least a little bit? at least Gilardino could come in?) against Livorno?
Makes no sense discussing the past. For Lille, I do expect at least a two-goal margin win. Gourcuff should and will play, Seedorf will rest, not because of his spat with Ancelotti though. Gilardino and Pippo will play up front and hopefully Gilardino will break his 'curse'.
Can't wait..
PhildeLille
25-09-2006, 06:19
Hi Guys !
Our team seems in a pretty bad shape these last days ! (lost against toulouse and Lyon badly)
One explanation: We were forced to play the League cup whereas Lyon and bordeaux were exempted because they play the champions league :gmlh:
wel why not Lille ? Because we qualified for it.
So then we are forced to align at least 7 players on the field for both cup and championship in two following matches. Our coach has then aligned the B team against Toulouse. Now we have lost some players in this cup (including our keeper !). In brief the game against Lyon has suffered from it.
So we are still OK for now. Seriously Lille has never lost in CL on a home game so I just smile when I read a "2 goal difference for Milan" :greed:
If the keeper plays I expect a revolt in the team.
PhildeLille
25-09-2006, 06:22
some details about Lille players to watch:
Mid field: Makoun and Bodmer
Front: Keita on the right, Odemwingie in the center and Bastos on the left.
I do expect at least a two-goal margin win.
That's quite an arrogant thing to admit. Why do you expect this? How many here expected at least a 2 goal margin of victory against Livorno and Ascoli? Judging from the serie a prediction league, quite a high percentage 'expected' a clear victory yet we couldn't do this.
To me (and this is in general not just against you Xudong) people who say 'we'll win by such an amount' and 'we've already progressed through the group stages', etc, are just being arrogant and lack respect for the other team.
some details about Lille players to watch:
Mid field: Makoun and Bodmer
Front: Keita on the right, Odemwingie in the center and Bastos on the left.
We've already pinpointed these players as dangermen Phil, we know (well most of us do) that it'll be a tough match.
PhildeLille
25-09-2006, 06:48
To me (and this is in general not just against you Xudong) people who say 'we'll win by such an amount' and 'we've already progressed through the group stages', etc, are just being arrogant and lack respect for the other team.
We've already pinpointed these players as dangermen Phil, we know (well most of us do) that it'll be a tough match.
:clap:
Thanx for being pragmatic and balanced; not very common amongst big team fans.
Lille got pummled this weekend by Lyon. Im not sure what happened because they have had a really good record against the Champions recetly. I think they even got the double over them last season.
They are opponents wh need to be respected, but I do question the fire power up front. The strikers they have up front are good, but Im not sure how many goals they have in them. Then again Lille fans might be able to say something along those lines abour our strikers.
Its Gourcuff's homecoming tomorrow so I expect him to be all over them or totally quiet and I do think he will start. Im just preying that Gila will register and Oli will turn out a good performance if he starts. Honestly though, I cant see how Carlo can afford to drop Pippo who is our main goal threat.
Lille was trashed 1-4 by Lyon.
I have a feeling that they didn't field their 1st team in that match but prepare them for the match against Milan.
Milan were actually planned to do the same and that's why Carletto fielding the like of Favalli, Ambro and the "unfit" Maldini and not even Kaka (who forcedly subbed Maldini), Pirlo, Cafu and the other proven winning players.
It is very clear that Carletto put the CL as his Prime target this season due to the points deduction.
So, let us now support our beloved Milan to shine not only in CL but also in the Serie A as the league still have 34 matches to go and thus mean that Milans till have time to catch Inter and Roma. I do not put Palermo as a scudetto candidate as last night they loose to Empoli and so will again to many other team in future.
Warro Bantan
25-09-2006, 14:03
Cant believe I miss this match again...Work this time...but hey..mayb I will catch a replay or something...(going to G. Cayman for work)
Hope u guys give some good in-match updates!!
FORZA MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILAN!!!
Apparently Gorky is injured. Ergh.
Kaka and Pirlo are surely gonna be around. Pippo and Gila are almost confirmed, though we know Gila did not perform well when Pippo is around. I don't know, could change though. Nesta and Kaladze might be there, they both need to get their fitness and chemistry together. Though from their pervious performance, they looked a bit sluggish. Yes, a bit worry about defence, since Lilie's dangermen are their attackers.
In the end, I just expect a good performance. That's all.
Lille was trashed 1-4 by Lyon.
I have a feeling that they didn't field their 1st team in that match but prepare them for the match against Milan.
Milan were actually planned to do the same and that's why Carletto fielding the like of Favalli, Ambro and the "unfit" Maldini and not even Kaka (who forcedly subbed Maldini), Pirlo, Cafu and the other proven winning players.
I don't think Kaka cam on for Maldini. It ws kaladze and I surely wish he is fit enough to participate in the Lille game. With nesta having the green light to play, I believe it'll be a tussle between Simic and Kaladze for the other central back position.
I wish Gourcuff could play..:( he is already 'used' to their style of play and where the attacks will be coming from.
I don't think Kaka cam on for Maldini. It ws kaladze and I surely wish he is fit enough to participate in the Lille game. With nesta having the green light to play, I believe it'll be a tussle between Simic and Kaladze for the other central back position.
Thanks Rayan,
You got it..Kaka Kaladze for Maldini....
Sky Italia says this will be our lineup: dida-cafu-nesta-kaladze-jankulovski-pirlo-seedorf-gattuso-kaka'-pippo-gilardino
This is probably our strongest lineup people!
I agree, I like this lineup too. Maybe if Serginho/Gourcuff weren't injured, they could take the places of Janku/Seedorf. But this lineup is fine, good enough for a win over Lille and any other team in that matter. :D
zlatanov
26-09-2006, 13:08
I think our best line up against a pacey, wing-playing team like Lille is a X-tree formation as we would need to suffocate their build-up and give some help to our defense which isn't at 100% with both Nesta and Kaladze just recently reteurning to playing after some injury problems.
With Gorky and Sergio out, I think we could use Janku and Kaka behind Gila. Also, this would give an extra hand to Kaka up front as he's been playing a bit too much lately and probably isn't too fresh right now.
Doubt this would happen though ;)
hitmannq8
26-09-2006, 13:22
Can't believe TLN are broadcasting the Real Madrid-Kiev game!!
Official line ups from UEFA.com
Milan 4-3-2-1
Dida - Cafu - Nesta - Kaladze - Jankulovski
------Gattuso - Pirlo - Ambrosini - ----
-------Seedorf - Kaka -
-----------Gilardino
Lille 4-5-1 (4-4-1-1)
-----------Sylva-----------------
Chalme - Plestan - Talvaridis - Vitakic
Keita - Bodmer - Makoun - Taffoureau
------------Fauveregue-------------
------------Odemwingie------------
zlatanov
26-09-2006, 13:42
hey, looks like Carlo listened to me after all, well almost ... haha :D
i can't beleive Carlo will use the X-tree formation finally great choice, though it's a little bit defensive i think it's the best formation to play against a team like Lille which is very fast on counter attacks
Gila should sign in this match
Now he will be the only target for KAKA ,Seedorf and Pirlo
Clarence1990
26-09-2006, 13:56
I don't like the idea of playing only one striker, but i guess we would have to since Lille are very good on the counters like you said.
acmilanone
26-09-2006, 14:04
my feeling strongly says that Gila will score in this match
my feeling strongly says that Gila will score in this match
yeah i also think That Gila will score tonight he has a perfect chance for that ;)
my feeling strongly says that Gila will score in this match
I'm going to have more issues with him than I do already if he doesn't score at least once.
Will be trying to sneak in visits here from work so please keep updating the match once it starts. grazie :u56: :5schal:
edited cause I forgot....overall I'm pleased with the formation, really good to see kakha back starting. My only reservation is Gila (please please prove me wrong)
hitmannq8
26-09-2006, 14:36
my feeling strongly says that Gila will score in this match
I've read that before every single game he played this season.
Gonzales is the ref! no need to worry,this man really is good.
sheva-gila
26-09-2006, 15:19
how we are playin can anyone answer to me please???
gila ???
We are a bit thin going forward. Kaka and Cafu are our main threat. Great ball from Pirlo to Kaka who used his speed and strength. He beat the keeper, but the angle became too tight. Gatusso gave a nice ball to Gila who took an angled drive, just slid past the keepers foot, and as a result went off target.
Milan are finding their feet and I expect a big second half. Gila is trying hard to get that goal.
For some obsurd reason the players swapped shirts at half time???
zlatanov
26-09-2006, 15:32
Initially, Lille were all over us but with time Milan started to play better and towards the end of the 1st half seems to be reaching into Lille's half with ease - that's according to Gazzetta ... I am not watchung the game, so take it with a pint of salt :)
Forza Milaaaaaaaaaaan !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
zlatanov
26-09-2006, 15:34
For some obsurd reason the players swapped shirts at half time???
you mean Lille and Milan players exchanged shirts????
wow, Kaka must have signed a bunch of autographs too :D
Warro Bantan
26-09-2006, 15:34
Ok guys....I am in GCayman...and not getting any info on the game outside of what livescore.com and have a meeting at 3pm...hopefully I can catch some updates from u guys on the second half...
Guess my interpretation of the game so far is that we are dominating but cant find the goal?
zlatanov
26-09-2006, 15:36
this is how Gazzetta sums up the 1st half:
"Dominio assoluto dei rossoneri che falliscono due nette occasioni con Kakà e Gilardino."
Absolute domination for Milan who missed a couple of clear chances with Gila and Kaka.
Not sure if they arent a bit biased but I guess it's safe to say that we are having a good game so far.
Yeah they swapped shirts. The oliwebe guy looked like he was ready to go home after he got his heros shirt. LOL Good sign though ;)
To sum the match up Milan have enjoyed possession without really making use of it. They have kept it tight. Keita has looked decent when running with the ball. Then Milan stepped up a gear in the last 10 minutes and had them pegged back.
Another great pass by Pirlo, Kaka could have done better. BUT Im only saying that because it was Kaka.
Milan_Mad
26-09-2006, 15:39
Ive watched the 1st half on sky sports and we really should be 1-0 up gila's had 2 real good chances one with his head and another one and one with the keeper which he slotted wide, plus kaka's slide the ball onto the side of the post after rounding the keeper anway for them must of seen Dida about twice
KingHenry®
26-09-2006, 15:43
Ive watched the 1st half on sky sports and we really should be 1-0 up gila's had 2 real good chances one with his head and another one and one with the keeper which he slotted wide, plus kaka's slide the ball onto the side of the post after rounding the keeper anway for them must of seen Dida about twice
i just dont believe this, ive been infront of the telly all this time watching man u and arsenal on itv and itv 4 when i never even checked sky sports, kinda stupid i know
oh well second half is with milan i guess...
rosoneri_11
26-09-2006, 15:43
COME ON GILA YOU CAN DO IT!!!! :5schal:
hitmannq8
26-09-2006, 15:44
ppl from other forums are saying our best players are seedorf and cafu, and our worst is gila
KingHenry®
26-09-2006, 15:45
in the second half im going too watch gila with a hawks eye
edit ** and i'll keep all you lot up to date with whats happening a lil quicker..
Milan_Mad
26-09-2006, 15:46
ppl from other forums are saying our best players are seedorf and cafu, and our worst is gilayep true that is add kaka to our best players as well
The boys have walked out. Oliveira was chatting to Seedorf and loked very expressive with plenty of hand movements. Seedorf was listening attentatively :)
KingHenry®
26-09-2006, 15:48
kaka missed another chance, was a lil hard as it was from a lil distant
rosoneri_11
26-09-2006, 15:49
Steaua Bucuresti 0 - 1 Lyon
43' 0 - 1 Fred !!!!
THAT ''FRED'' SCORED AGAIN!!!!
HE IS THE FIRST SCORER AT FRANCE AND HE SCORED AND FOR CL!!!!HE IS AMAZING!!!!!
I wouldnt call Gila our worst player. He will be jugded on goals.
rosoneri_11
26-09-2006, 15:50
And Milan Was Interested Very Much To Buy Him Last Year!!!
KingHenry®
26-09-2006, 15:50
lille are pushing the milan back four, i just dont like ambro
KingHenry®
26-09-2006, 15:51
seedorf was on side and scored but given offside
linesman takin the piss asusual
Totally open game now. Great ball to Seedorf who nets BUT offside
KingHenry®
26-09-2006, 15:53
milan are pushin the lille team now
pirlo free kick and........................................
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the keeper saves it.. commentator saying milan have got a better attitude this half
You mean Joe Jordan :devf:
Fred is indeed a top scorer.
and look who just scored. ARTEM MILEVSKYI! lol
watchout Real.
rosoneri_11
26-09-2006, 15:54
Seedorf flagged offside although replays show he wasn't!!!!
KingHenry®
26-09-2006, 15:55
milan need to gel more, silly ways of loosin the ball
Im not happy with Seedorf in this playmaker role. Get back on the left clarence.
KingHenry®
26-09-2006, 15:57
lille should of scored, milan defense are 2 weak
rosoneri_11
26-09-2006, 15:57
How Is Playing Janculofski???
Keita just ran through us on the counter. Beat Pirlo, beat Kaladze the last man. Poor defending by him. Just over.
Nod down from Gila, kaka straight at the goalie. Unlucky.
rosoneri_11
26-09-2006, 16:00
Forget it!with gilardino as the only striker Milan would never score!
KingHenry®
26-09-2006, 16:00
very very very boring game, im going back 2 arsenal..
Great ball by Kaka, Seedorf just had to hit the ball and he tackled himself. Dreadful!!
Supreme this is a great game!! Its so open.
Great vision by Kaka then.
rosoneri_11
26-09-2006, 16:02
Janku is quiet.
Come on jancu you can do it!!!!
i hope to see and pipo!I'm sure for pipo he will score if come in!
Kaka is having a Zidane type affect ie every time he gets the ball good things happen!!
Oh my God Raul scored, does he score goals?
rosoneri_11
26-09-2006, 16:05
our game and benfica-man utd. have no goals yet....all the others have.
Keita and Kaka are the best two players on the pitch.
Seedorf is just too damn sloppy to play in the middle.
Forza Milan!!!!! Score that GoaL!
our game and benfica-man utd. have no goals yet....all the others have.
not true. saha scored.
Lille are getting the upper hand. Carlo needs to act and act quick.
Seedorf or Janku and probably Gila all need to come off.
Bring on Gourcuff, Oli and Pippo
rosoneri_11
26-09-2006, 16:08
Oh my God Raul scored, does he score goals?
yes he can.....on 30 games he scores 1,2.....specially with "litlle teams"! :diablo:
zlatanov
26-09-2006, 16:09
Lille are getting the upper hand. Carlo needs to act and act quick.
Seedorf or Janku and probably Gila all need to come off.
Bring on Gourcuff, Oli and Pippo
gorky is out injured
hitmannq8
26-09-2006, 16:10
hmmm.. Milan vs a team like Ascoli at home wins 1-0 and we nearly drew that game.. then against Livorno a dull and boring 0-0 where we lacked chances.. and now against Lille, a defensive team that lost 4-1 to Lyon, we are finding problems trying to score.. Its obvious our problem is in our attack, unlike last season.
Comon Milan! Get on Pippo and Oliveira!
rosoneri_11
26-09-2006, 16:10
why carlo start gila and let pipo on bech???
gorky is out injured
I read that earlier. I was hoping Carlo was taking him out of the limelight.
Dida just made a fantastic save.
Another good save from Dida :rolleyes:
With Rino and Ambro on the pitch they should not be getting these long range oppertunities.
Someone call Carlo and remind him hes aloowed to make subs.
rosoneri_11
26-09-2006, 16:14
Dida just made a fantastic save.[/QUOTE]
Oh...come on guys we are here to win and not praying to not lost because dida make a fantastic save!!!!!
Wake up an take the 3 points!
zlatanov
26-09-2006, 16:15
maybe it's time for Brocchi and Oli/Pippo to step in? In place of Gattuso and Ambro ... an extra forward up front should keep Lille extra careful at the back and will take some pressure off out mid and defense, now that Ambro and Seedorf are probbaly tired and sloppy ;)
rosoneri_11
26-09-2006, 16:15
i think borielo is better than gila.
Gila held the bastard line and the bastard linesman lifted his bastard flag with a bastard look on his face. What a bastard!!
rosoneri_11
26-09-2006, 16:17
**** we lost sheva and only pipo can score to much.
Hum I just fancy Oli, but Pippo is coming on for gila
hitmannq8
26-09-2006, 16:18
FINALLY PIPPO comes on.. Ancelotti needs a slap for being so late (as usual)
Rosseneri 11, do you want some cheese with that whine
rosoneri_11
26-09-2006, 16:18
Gila held the bastard line and the bastard linesman lifted his bastard flag with a bastard look on his face. What a bastard!!
ha!ha!ha!ha!ha! :devf:
Kaladze has been poor today, just not good enough for Keita whos loving it.
Magical pass from Seedorf, but Cafu messed it up. That bastard raised his flag though.
rosoneri_11
26-09-2006, 16:20
Rosseneri 11, do you want some cheese with that whine
i'm sorry i dont know very good english.what does that mean??? :r7:
Just a friendly hint to not be too negative :)
Ignore me, Im just gagging for a Milan goal
rosoneri_11
26-09-2006, 16:24
real makes it 5-1!!!
r.van nistelrooy scored his second on the game!
Great ball by Pirlo, good pass from Kaka, good lay off by Pippo and poor shot by Seedorf.
hitmannq8
26-09-2006, 16:25
I think Gila should change from football to chess
80th minute, and Ancelotti has 2 subs left, and 2 more stikers on bench but decides to stay with Ambro + Gattuso. Bravo Carlo, playing Lille for the draw.
KingHenry®
26-09-2006, 16:25
full time 0-0
oh well, we cant win all the time :p146:
Milanista4ever
26-09-2006, 16:26
Its not over
What game are you watching Supreme, there is 6 minutes left
zlatanov
26-09-2006, 16:27
I think the game is still on, no?
rosoneri_11
26-09-2006, 16:27
Great ball by Pirlo, good pass from Kaka, good lay off by Pippo and poor shot by Seedorf.
if sheva was there we he would score to tha chance!
KingHenry®
26-09-2006, 16:27
haha
ok no time to joke
Right thats it, open the fridge and get the cheese out :w186:
cuz Sheva never missed right..?
KingHenry®
26-09-2006, 16:28
it is pretty dam obvious we are missing sheva like mad
were all doooooooooooooomed doomed i repeat it
dooooooooooooomed
zlatanov
26-09-2006, 16:29
if sheva was there we he would score to tha chance!
so would have Van Basten ... same could be said for Nordahl too :sagrin:
rosoneri_11
26-09-2006, 16:29
off topic:WE NEED HUNTELAAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
zlatanov
26-09-2006, 16:29
Right thats it, open the fridge and get the cheese out :w186:
:rotfl: :D :ilol:
Oh my God $heva left, the world is ending. Get a grip guys.
Oh my God $heva left, the world is ending. Get a grip guys.
ya; i just can't believe people are still talking about him when he scored... how many? ... goals with Chelsea?
zlatanov
26-09-2006, 16:31
I can tell you the score - Kaka will score in 2nd min of extra time. ;)
rosoneri_11
26-09-2006, 16:31
Oh my God $heva left, the world is ending. Get a grip guys.
GET A HUNTELAAR MR. BERLUSCONI
I can tell you the score - Kaka will score in 2nd min of extra time. ;)
in which game though..
Another good safe from Dida, at least hes back on form.
Im impressed with Keita, fast, strong, clever. Good player.
What is going on here gents, no offense versus Livorno and now nothing agains Lille, we should eat teams like this up... time to work on those drills in front of Goal Mr. Ancelotti
We dont need to buy Huntelaar, we should buy a ref LOL
He would be cheaper
KingHenry®
26-09-2006, 16:33
well when you needed goals the most were did they come from??
it was always sheva..
rosoneri_11
26-09-2006, 16:34
I can tell you the score - Kaka will score in 2nd min of extra time. ;)
I can tell you the score - DIDA WILL MAKE A FANTASTIC SAVE ON 2nd min of extra time.
At least it appears that Anderlecht and AEK drew as well so we are still tops in the group... what is with Milan and not playing well in France?
zlatanov
26-09-2006, 16:34
What is going on here gents, no offense versus Livorno and now nothing agains Lille, we should eat teams like this up... time to work on those drills in front of Goal Mr. Ancelotti
check with Rossoneri 11, he might have some cheese left :diablo:
well when you needed goals the most were did they come from??
it was always sheva..
How old is he. The last time I checked he didnt have the secret to eternal youth. Better now for 30mil than in two years for nothing.
rosoneri_11
26-09-2006, 16:35
well when you needed goals the most were did they come from??
it was always sheva..
THATS RIGHT!
Milanista4ever
26-09-2006, 16:35
Ft 0-0........
breitlingmoto
26-09-2006, 16:36
finito...0-0
Another point for us
We have 4 now
Milan should have scored
Thanks Zlat... just frustrated. Unlike most I don't think losing Sheva is the end but an team with a roster like ours should generate goals!
couldn't watch the game: try many but all failed. well, at least I didn't miss any goal. :D Let's hope that the other game will have no more goals, so we will still take the top alone. :D :ilol:
I am glad that Dida is back. OR is he? ;)
Game over, despite the cheesy smell not a bad result.
Away game against a good team. Im a little dissapointed with Carlo's lack of sction with his changes. We went forward well, but Seedorf should be on the left and if Carlo wants one striker then Rui Costa (Gourcuff) must play behind Kaka and the striker.
rosoneri_11
26-09-2006, 16:38
check with Rossoneri 11, he might have some cheese left :diablo:
would anyone tell me what is the f......ing meaning of this???
KingHenry®
26-09-2006, 16:39
How old is he. The last time I checked he didnt have the secret to eternal youth. Better now for 30mil than in two years for nothing.
regardless of age who is going to fill hes shoes?
gilla? when is the last time he scored?
pippo? and you was talkin to me about age?
and who else oli? apart from 1 "lucky" goal in the first game what else has he done? how was hes previous game with livorno? how many chances did he miss? just as much as gilla missed now..
like it or not when sheva left milan were left with a real big hole, and i dont thnk anyone can fill it... he was always there when u needed him trust..
Zlatanov will explain :uhm:
would anyone tell me what is the f......ing meaning of this???
nothing, you just need to lighten up a little bit. :grinser:
zlatanov
26-09-2006, 16:41
Thanks Zlat... just frustrated. Unlike most I don't think losing Sheva is the end but an team with a roster like ours should generate goals!
I know, same here - a bit frustrated - but it's only the beginning of the season and Sheva's replaceemt is still to hit top fitness .... let's give the guys some time.
A 0-0 away to Lille is a pretty good result. Mkae no mistake, they are a very good team that beat ManU last year and I think beat Lyon in League 1 at least once as well. They did lose 4-1 last game vs Lyon but that was a game they didn't give their best in as they had Milan to play with.
They are an excellent team, yeah, we could have won, but a draw is still a decent result.
Zlatanov will explain :uhm:
that's the way you treat a mod? :1old: Poor Zlatanov.. :tong:
rosoneri_11
26-09-2006, 16:43
Steaua Bucuresti 0 - 3 Lyon!!!they look very stong team!!!!
regardless of age who is going to fill hes shoes?
gilla? when is the last time he scored?
pippo? and you was talkin to me about age?
and who else oli? apart from 1 "lucky" goal in the first game what else has he done? how was hes previous game with livorno? how many chances did he miss? just as much as gilla missed now..
like it or not when sheva left milan were left with a real big hole, and i dont thnk anyone can fill it... he was always there when u needed him trust..
They are all excellent questions, but the real problem is not that $heva left, but that he wasnt adequately replaced. All we can do is hope Oli gives his own contribution which will help in our success. If not, another season another striker.
If that ***** wanted to leave then let it be. We are Milan and we can go and make another Sheva. He cant find another Milan.
lyon will make the quarters again
at least...
I am back after some days, it was the first official game it wasnt live on Greek TV. I was upsend because i saw the team against Livorno and i was dissapointed. How we play tonight, from UEFA'S commentator we must have played defensively and Dida must have been our best. So....?
rosoneri_11
26-09-2006, 16:44
that's the way you treat a mod? :1old: Poor Zlatanov.. :tong:
What is mod???
moderator of the forum! Thats what Zlat is!
zlatanov
26-09-2006, 16:45
What is mod???
K77SH C will explain :guw: :ilol:
rosoneri_11
26-09-2006, 16:45
I am back after some days, it was the first official game it wasnt live on Greek TV. I was upsend because i saw the team against Livorno and i was dissapointed. How we play tonight, from UEFA'S commentator we must have played defensively and Dida must have been our best. So....?
Hey brother i'm from greece too........
Τελικα δε τα πηγαμε και τοσο καλα αλλα και το χ' καλο ειναι.
K77SH C will explain :guw: :ilol:
Im splitting my sides here :kap:
Yes i think Dida was our best
rosoneri_11
26-09-2006, 16:47
oh come on what rossoneri-brothers are you????
What is mod???
zlatanov
26-09-2006, 16:50
oh come on what rossoneri-brothers are you????
What is mod???
as nefremo mentioned, mod is short for moderator ... somethoing like a prison-guard on a forum :rotfl: :ilol:
zZ[-_-]Zz
26-09-2006, 16:50
Gilardino as lone striker... thus an expected lack of goals...
oh come on what rossoneri-brothers are you????
What is mod???
Yeah mod is short for moderator.
The cheese thing was just a hint to think more positively. :)
rosoneri_11
26-09-2006, 16:54
as nefremo mentioned, mod is short for moderator ... somethoing like a prison-guard on a forum :rotfl: :ilol:
Thanks zlatanov!!!
And the other with the cheeze and the wine what does it mean????
Zz']Gilardino as lone striker... thus an expected lack of goals...
Not neccesarily.
Crespo was good for us by himself and correct me if Im wrong, but Gila played alone at Parma. :)
You are like me, you dont want to lose hope with the guy. But sooner or later he needs to start scoring.
rosoneri_11
26-09-2006, 16:57
We Need Huntelaar!!!!!!
zlatanov
26-09-2006, 16:58
Thanks zlatanov!!!
And the other with the cheeze and the wine what does it mean????
as K77SH said, it's just a friendly reminder to be more positive :)
it's a game of words - wine (a drink) and whine (complain)
cheese and wine go very well together ;) ... in your case however, it was more like cheese and whine :sagrin:
cheers :diablo:
rosoneri_11
26-09-2006, 16:58
Good Night Guys I Had To Go!!!!
Buy.
pece4ever
26-09-2006, 16:59
definately we need Huntelar
Hasan Rossonero
26-09-2006, 16:59
Thanks zlatanov!!!
And the other with the cheeze and the wine what does it mean????
Ok someone has to tell you.
To whine in English basically means to complain (especially as in self-pity).
Wine is an alcoholic drink as you know.
So...when you "whined" you were told to take the cheese out since wine and cheese are often food combinations.
Understand?
KingHenry®
26-09-2006, 17:00
We Need Huntelaar!!!!!!
we need a miracle, alot of people can complain about me saying that but cmon
with this team and the way we are playing how far shall we get
squeeze pass the groupe stages?
get knocked out the first round of the knockout stages?
I remember the mass calls for Gila two seasons ago. People here were begging for Galliani to sign Gila as if he would be our saviour. There is nothing to suggest Huntelaar will be any better once we actually sign him and he is under real pressure.
In fact alot of people here were calling Sobis our new Kaka and quite frankly, I doubt many people knew anything about him other than a few impressive sounding facts.
Just give the guy who actually plays for us some time and show some faith. :w221: :)
Graeme C
26-09-2006, 17:03
yeah Gila will score reg, just takes a lil time! think he should start over the weekend! thing with sheva is that he is a supporting striker aswell as a dangerman.. he setup alot of Gila's goals last season....
my worry is that its going to take Oliveira a long time to get to his best, which raises the question why did we buy him if he wasnt fully fit already, its a risk! and Borriello is a fairly Nooby striker to be honest! its still early days yet, and i love to be proved wrong!
maybe it's because today is Sheva's birthday...
c'mon, no need to panic, we're still ahead in the group, and this is just starting... it's a marathon, not the 100m race... I'd rather see Milan start slow and then get better, than to dominate the first round and then have not gas left for the direct elimination rounds...
Dr Milano
26-09-2006, 17:09
We Need Huntelaar!!!!!!
yes we do i agree we should have signed klaas this summer sadly ... we didnt and we could have since no other club tried so .... im dejected
zZ[-_-]Zz
26-09-2006, 17:15
why Gilardino is not good enough for me is this... the less he gets involved in the game... the more frustrated he becomes & less composed infront of goal... not exactly a winner's mentality... as for Huntelaar... he has that mentality... he can go totally invisible in the game... but when a chance comes his way... he at least could do somethin' useful with it & most of the time score a goal... and never let his lack of involvement affect his game... sadly for Gilardino... this frustration & the big expectations of a big club is not helpin'... he is more suited for a smaller club not fightin' for trophies... where the pressure is not as high...
Dr Milano
26-09-2006, 17:18
Zz']why Gilardino is not good enough for me is this... the less he gets involved in the game... the more frustrated he becomes & less composed infront of goal... not exactly a winner's mentality... as for Huntelaar... he has that mentality... he can go totally invisible in the game... but when a chance comes his way... he at least could do somethin' useful with it & most of the time score a goal... and never let his lack of involvement affect his game... sadly for Gilardino... this frustration & the big expectations of a big club is not helpin'... he is more suited for a smaller club not fightin' for trophies... where the pressure is not as high...
i see yer point but weee not ave both eh .... lol :firedev:
kastriot
26-09-2006, 18:08
Another not convincing game,but its not that bad yet I think,Its obvious that nobody from the team is 100% yet, Kaka is doing really good so does seedorf, but PIrlo is not ok, he gives anaverage 1 great pass per game, which is ok, but what he did in the WC, that world class, and here his been just above the average, I was hoping that he will be our saviour this year but not, his supposed to be our organizer and Kaka and Seedorf even Gattuzo are taking care of that, even the crosses and the free-kicks are not as good anymore,
And waht is this defensive aproach that Carlo is forcing this year, alone striker, with both Ambro and Gattuzo playing alongside Pirlo :nunu: :nunu: :nunu:
I'll point out few things....
WHEN THE HELL HAS CARLO COME UP WITH THE IDEA THAT SEEDORF CAN BE A DANGEROUS AM????
Ambrosini-Gattuso combination never works, and with Seedorf playing deeply and Pirlo closed oftenly ( for a reason ), we cant control the midfield. Cafu can still run, but he cant make the difference in the 1-one-1's. So with seedorf and Pirlo out of our first few touches, we loose the ball easily. We are pushing Seedorf practically out of play, and with that our CM is working with pirlo-gattuso-ambrosini, Which leads to the fact we cant create well. There is no miracle striker like Sheva was to do it himself, and as I've said many times in here, we will need to PLAY better than last year to score goals. In all the tight matches we always had KAka' or Sheva to sinmply do it their way. Now its all on Kaka' and Pirlos long balls. Where are to trained combinations, place switches and so on...?? There are no miracle forwards to save Carlo's head this season, Im waiting to see what he will do to improve combinatoric play and ball posesion in dangerous areas.
kastriot
26-09-2006, 18:29
I'll point out few things....
WHEN THE HELL HAS CARLO COME UP WITH THE IDEA THAT SEEDORF CAN BE A DANGEROUS AM????
Ambrosini-Gattuso combination never works, and with Seedorf playing deeply and Pirlo closed oftenly ( for a reason ), we cant control the midfield. Cafu can still run, but he cant make the difference in the 1-one-1's. So with seedorf and Pirlo out of our first few touches, we loose the ball easily. We are pushing Seedorf practically out of play, and with that our CM is working with pirlo-gattuso-ambrosini, Which leads to the fact we cant create well. There is no miracle striker like Sheva was to do it himself, and as I've said many times in here, we will need to PLAY better than last year to score goals. In all the tight matches we always had KAka' or Sheva to sinmply do it their way. Now its all on Kaka' and Pirlos long balls. Where are to trained combinations, place switches and so on...?? There are no miracle forwards to save Carlo's head this season, Im waiting to see what he will do to improve combinatoric play and ball posesion in dangerous areas.
You have a point Mrki, you are right and plus Seedorf and Kaka all the time are changing places,giving passes to each other,but usless passes and with that they cut from the game the other ones,
Gilardino didnt have a decent pass all through the game except one when he missed,So pls dont blame him, his simply not at his best.he needs time to find the magical touch again.
Warro Bantan
26-09-2006, 19:22
Wow....from the hieghts of fame, with all singing praises, to doom and gloom, sack Carlo, buy Hunteleear(sp?)...with what, 2 scoreless draws?
Two matches that we dominated? Of course, the other teams had chances..but importantly, didnt score.
All is not yet lost. We top the group, and have only dropped 2 points thus far this season...we have every chance of having a successfull season this term...so please, break out the wine, (& cheese if u must :D ), and relax...still a long ways to go yet.
Sorry we didnt win, but we didnt lose...so that for me, is the all important bottom line.
kuzimoto
26-09-2006, 19:36
:w221: pray for Milan,pray.
nothing lost yet.
everything is just fine.
they are warming up. :p017:
[QUOTE=
Sorry we didnt win, but we didnt lose...so that for me, is the all important bottom line.[/QUOTE]
Its not about the points, we are more than sure to qualify from this group. Our game is not good, and we need to improve it. That is the important bottom line.
So time for me to put something positive?
I like Dida's save from the header + 1 long range shot. Very very nice.
Wow....from the hieghts of fame, with all singing praises, to doom and gloom
typical MM.
zlatanov
26-09-2006, 22:56
typical MM.
it's more like - typical people - other Milan forums are very much alike, actually, even worse :googly: :devf:
The formation with which we played really sucks :w262: . It hardly produces goals. Any it doesn't mean that AC Milan is not the best. We will the Champions League this season.
No miricals of Deportivo and LUCKYpool and No lucky Barca :whie: . Its gonna be AC Milan standing alone at the end of the season.
Believe me its going to happen, u guys can BET ur LIVES on it and its simple ;) as that
Well, just watched the highlights. As a matter of fact I've watched the highlights of the last two draws (thanks Vadim) and I have to agree with Warro here.
Warro, my man, with you being in Jamaica and stuff, you have anything else to offer other than good sense and reason to our stressed-out buddies in Milanland? :stoned:
Relax, people. Take a deep breath for the love of Mother and Child. No championships were won or lost this past week. It's a long, long, long season...a marathon as opposed to a sprint.
So just relax. Grab a cold glass of your favorite alcoholic beverage or if your like me, light up a nice juicy fat one and just enjoy the game.
Ok, enough of that and on to the game...the only problem I see (if it is one, I'll give it some time before I start squeaking) is the midfield players are pressing too hard to score. When they do that they give up good opportunities on the counter. The team is gonna get bit on the rear end very soon. So we've got to allow the strikers to strike. The guys up front have to get more clinical in their finishing, especially Gilardino. This guy has to step it up. And now.
I didn't see this game, but from the highlights, it seemed like it was pretty even. I don't expect Milan to go to France and dominate Lille. I don't expect that from any team in the world. It was always going to be a tough game. We were unlucky as were they. We scored, they didn't!( that was a perfecty regular goal by Seedorf) What a chance by Kaka when he went around the keeper, and what an incredible ball by Pirlo to send him through. We had a lot of chances.....Gila scraping the post being one of them. They had some as well. When they come to Milano though it will be a different story. We just played the toughest away game of the group and we got a good result.
I am extremely positive about this year. If Pirlo keeps this form up and keeps sending balls like this in there, and with Kaka looking soooo dangerous whenever he touches the ball, I see a bright season. These too are our leaders and I expect Pirlo and Kaka to bring us the Scudetto and the CL. Both of them have been in sensational form and as long as that's the case, we will go far. Don't warry about Gila and Oliveira. They will score their share. I don't know why some people are so down. We have played 8 competitive games from which we won 6 and drew 2. We have only conceded 2 goals (one against Lazio and one against Red Star), and that is very important. Let's warry about the league now and cut some points to get closer to the top!
FORZA MILAN!
hitmannq8
27-09-2006, 03:18
Thank god this game is not a decisive one. Ancelotti surely didnt learn from his mistake over the weekend of playing Ambro and Gattuso together. I also am really close to losing it with Gila. As much as you all want him to start scoring, I do too, but he has had a whole season and a bit to show us what he is capable of, and he still hasn't settled in. He had TWO good games last season (udinese, and juve i think). He is always INVISIBLE during games.
He has absolutely no effect and no inspiration on the team. What the hell is the use of him? And what drives me crazy is how on earth does Carlo keep favouring Gila over Inzaghi when it is so clear that Inzaghi has everything Gila has but a bit more and that is he started drifting out wide and dribbling players and assisting.
For now, I will say Forza Gila and I hope you prove me wrong soon. If he doesn't prove himself by January for WHATEVER reason, I will start an anti-Gila group so eventually it gets to Milan and they sell him.
And hard luck about the Lille game. It seems like we've missed a few oppurtunities this game. Its the 2nd game in a row where we have struggled in the finishing. Lets not judge the attack yet, lets wait till the international break. If we won this game we would be way on the top of the group, but we're lucky the other game ended in a draw. When is the next game?
Wow....from the hieghts of fame, with all singing praises, to doom and gloom, sack Carlo, buy Hunteleear(sp?)...with what, 2 scoreless draws?
Amen! Ditto to your statement Warro and kudos to Goose, Zlat, and Jeff. Go easy the rest of you. There is a heck of a lot more fottie to play.
PhildeLille
27-09-2006, 07:33
What is going on here gents, no offense versus Livorno and now nothing agains Lille, we should eat teams like this up... time to work on those drills in front of Goal Mr. Ancelotti
Well no offense as well but I guess information is not crossing the atlantics: comparing us with Livorno ! :5drunk:
We kicked manchester last year, we played 3 times in CL in five years and beat Lyon regularly (not the last game). 2nd and 3rd in the last french championships (I know the level of the french league is not as good as Italy; although getting closer).
Nevertheless I am astonished to read your words.
Now, honestly, Milan should have won with that goal that was refused. But There was certainly not a Big domination from one part or another.
. Its gonna be AC Milan standing alone at the end of the season.
Believe me its going to happen, u guys can BET ur LIVES on it
Are you as sure about this as you were about Dida not keeping a clean sheet against Parma? :rollani:
humanTORCH
27-09-2006, 09:08
Magath Does Not Fear Inter
The Bayern coach would have been more concerned if the German side were facing Milan.
Felix Magath laughed off Inter’s challenge for tonight’s Champions League encounter, stating that the Nerazzurri are not a team as much as Milan are.
“We don’t have the obligation to win, having already defeated Spartak Moscow in the first match. We are calm, the pressure will be all for Inter.
“Milan would give us more concern, they have squad mechanisms which are automatic now. Inter instead, even though they have strengthened the squad from last season with the new purchases, it’s still not a gelled squad.
“That’s why we don’t fear them and on the contrary, we shall try to take advantage of this.”
Bayern Munich won the first match 4-0 against Spartak Moscow, whereas Inter lost 1-0 against Sporting Lisbon.
________________________________________________________
This is what I called classic Quote :pp20: :grinser:
zlatanov
27-09-2006, 09:19
I really don't see why on Earth Maggath would fear Inter, even if they had a full squad, let alone when they are missing their two best CM - Cambiasso and Vieira.
With these two out, I really don't see Inter gaining control of the game unless Bayern are stupid enough to play too defensively and let them do so. I personally expect to see Inter miss the link between defense and attack and revert to desperate long balls into Bayern's PA in hope that one of them happily lands on Ibrta's foot or Crespo's head.
We had many chances to score but didn't take them, it's true that we had a regular goal disallowed but vs teams as Lille we have to win home and away.
In many occassions they where all defending, but Ancelotti f***** it all with the substitutions leaving the team with 1 striker. Vs such teams you have to put more weight up front.
There's too many coaches who are Milan fans. That Ancelotti's problem.
zlatanov
27-09-2006, 12:42
We had many chances to score but didn't take them
Ancelotti f***** it all with the substitutions leaving the team with 1 striker. Vs such teams you have to put more weight up front.
I presume that the reason why you would want 2 forwards is that Milan creates more chances by having more people up front ... yet, you say that we created many chances but didn't take them.
Obviously, X-tree didn't inhibit us in creating chances and it was just that the players missed them all ... something for which there is no guarantee that it won't happen with 2 men up front instead of 1.
At the same time, with 2 strikers against a pacey team like Lille - which uses wing play a lot - not enough men in midfield to stiffle their attacks, could have well resulted in them hitting us and scoring on the counter. Or they could have simply made life difficult for our midfielders and thus preventing them from creating/setting up chances for our forwards. What good are 2 or even 3 strikers if they are more isolated from the play and lack chances to score?
zlatanov
27-09-2006, 12:44
There's too many coaches who are Milan fans. That Ancelotti's problem.
good point ;) ... actually, that's not just Carlo's but football's problem - as usual, those who know it all are in the stands :bri:
PhildeLille
27-09-2006, 12:50
vs teams as Lille we have to win home and away.
.
:haha:
yeah and you should win CL cup each year !
without paying too much... :diablo:
:haha:
yeah and you should win CL cup each year !
without paying too much... :diablo:
Give proofs before you speak idiot.
:haha:
yeah and you should win CL cup each year !
without paying too much... :diablo:
shut your hole, like this. :mute:
and take this, a free gift. :5dito:
P.S. mod, please let me know whether my conduct is improper, so next time I will behave, maybe. :tong:
I watched the game against Lille ,and you guys have right Ambrosini and Gattuso partnership dosn't work , playing with 2 strikers could be more efective ( Oliveira/Pipo in first squad for Ambro ) and our usual formation 4-3-1-2 . Dida was great :) saving some danger shoots from Lille players , a player that really coused trouble to our defence was Keita i think ..
Maybe Carlo didn't want to risk in this game playing with 2 strikers and play with 4-3-1-2 against Anderlecht in San Siro which game is very immportant and i'm expecting Milan to win this one , and hold the lead in our group.
ACMILAN1983
27-09-2006, 16:16
Guys please calm down a little. PhildeLille's post was disrespectful, but there's no need for any personal insults or swearing.
PhildeLille, its simple courtesy to show respect on another team's forum, your attitude shows us here who the real loser is.
when you talk about loser, are you talking about Inter lol?
Its gonna be AC Milan standing alone at the end of the season.
Believe me its going to happen, u guys can BET ur LIVES on it and its simple ;) as that
I would, but I've already taken your advice before and I ended having to make a deal with Death to let me live. That was my last warning though, next time its straight to hell with me. :diablo:
Maybe if you tell us to bet our lives that Milan WON'T win the CL, we actually will win.
The formation with which we played really sucks :w262: . It hardly produces goals. Any it doesn't mean that AC Milan is not the best. We will the Champions League this season.
No miricals of Deportivo and LUCKYpool and No lucky Barca :whie: . Its gonna be AC Milan standing alone at the end of the season.
Believe me its going to happen, u guys can BET ur LIVES on it and its simple ;) as that
dude, I like your optimism. but you probably should stop advising around. You have been asking many people to bet their lives, that's not a nice thing to do. You must think everyone here has nine lives, do you? :lala:
I would, but I've already taken your advice before and I ended having to make a deal with Death to let me live. That was my last warning though, next time its straight to hell with me. :diablo:
Maybe if you tell us to bet our lives that Milan WON'T win the CL, we actually will win.
This time it wont happen. We deserevd to win the Champions League for the last 3 seasons but becoz of 1 reason or another some STUPID teams won it which is really bad for the beauty of the beautiful game ;) . I mean come on, the guys Ronaldinho, Eto'o, Larsson, Puyul, Riise, Luis Garcia, Jimmy Traore etc really do put a negative effect on the Champions League trophy :whie: . Barca players simply didn't look good with that trophy :5130: , they simple didn't know how to celebrate compare to the Royal moment in 2003 when Paolo Maldidni lifted the cup :p283: that was a beautiful moment :510: .
U can bet any way
and its simple as that ;)
when you talk about loser, are you talking about Inter lol?
Plz :respect: Inter Milan, they are a great side ;)
Warro Bantan
27-09-2006, 23:41
Ok, this looks more like a graphic designer forum than one pertaining to football, and equally importantly, Milan.
Anyway, just a thought:
Milan are the only Italian club (correct me if I am wrong) who collected points on this match day.
Now, as far as I am concerned, one point is better than none...Inter lost at home, and Roma lost at Valencia...we remain the best performing Italian team in Europe...what does this show:
a) Our vastly superior pedigree in Europe.
b) The fact that we are able to churn out results when it matters
c) That we are probably the best team in Italy at the moment.
If we discount the points penalty, we would be on what, 10 points? Not far off the lead is that? Or would we be tied for the lead? Hmmmm
Makes you wonder what all the fuss is about...doesnt it? :dontkn:
Ok, this looks more like a graphic designer forum than one pertaining to football, and equally importantly, Milan.
Anyway, just a thought:
Milan are the only Italian club (correct me if I am wrong) who collected points on this match day.
Now, as far as I am concerned, one point is better than none...Inter lost at home, and Roma lost at Valencia...we remain the best performing Italian team in Europe...what does this show:
a) Our vastly superior pedigree in Europe.
b) The fact that we are able to churn out results when it matters
c) That we are probably the best team in Italy at the moment.
If we discount the points penalty, we would be on what, 10 points? Not far off the lead is that? Or would we be tied for the lead? Hmmmm
Makes you wonder what all the fuss is about...doesnt it? :dontkn:
we would be at the top, 1 more goal difference than Inter (not that it counts :D).
Inter might not keep their faxed scudetto after all. We all know that they are now under another investigation. If proved, they will be deprived of "their" precious scudetto.
It would be hilarious that the so-called "scudetto of honesty" would be deprived because of obvious dishonesty. :D
Looking forward to that happening. :cheers:
Warro Bantan
28-09-2006, 02:34
It would be hilarious that the so-called "scudetto of honesty" would be deprived because of obvious dishonesty. :D
Looking forward to that happening. :cheers:
Xudong...are u related to the honorable Confucious? U r actually sounding like him...and I am looking forward to seeing Inter issue new shirts.............................................................................................. ............................................without the scudetto sown on them. Mu ha..hahahahahaha (stops for a deep inhalation):devs:
Sorry it is late to comment in Milan game
I was so disapoined with draw and after I saw the highlite I discoverd Milan
were un lucky as we miss many chances to score. we played well but we need
player to end the finel touch and score
I'm 100% with Kaka that Milan needs to play with 2 striker
I think Ancelotti needs to play with Inzaghi- Gila next game
Finely what ever we say will not count only the result counts
PhildeLille
28-09-2006, 06:30
Guys please calm down a little. PhildeLille's post was disrespectful, but there's no need for any personal insults or swearing.
PhildeLille, its simple courtesy to show respect on another team's forum, your attitude shows us here who the real loser is.
Well I do apologize !
Now I am a bit fed up of this self sufficiency and major disrespect toward a team for which some of you have very little information obviously.
Now I know that you are Extremely sensitive to the last issue
ACMILAN1983
28-09-2006, 09:00
Well I do apologize !
Now I am a bit fed up of this self sufficiency and major disrespect toward a team for which some of you have very little information obviously.
Now I know that you are Extremely sensitive to the last issue
You're right, many of us probably don't know too much about Lille. Your previous comment shows how little you know about Milan. Simply put there should be a common respect, but the disrespect I have seen against Lille (ie. People expecting a comfortable win which is little more than naivity or ignorance) isn't as bad as making jokes about a team who have been damaged in the past summer, especially when they have no evidence against why they've been damaged.
Anyway, lets leave it there.
A bit off topic from Lille - Milan.
This morning when I opened my computer and checked the score on livescore.com.......there are 2 things which made me feel very comfortable...
1. The "Honorable Team" in Italy...Inter was trashed 0-2 by Magath's Bayern Munchen and 2 Merda's Bastardos were sent off...Ibraimobitch and the poor Grosso who couldn't stay calm but follow to be off the pitch.
2. Poor Sheva....he could only watch Drogba scored the hattrick......I do believe that deep in his heart he started to feel sorry why should he leave Milan where he was treated like a king where all team mate players try to serve him their best for him to score more and more....What a pity for Sheva...
I think Carletto is right to "offering" him back to Milan at 65% discount.....Do we really want him back ??
I can't wait to watch Inter loose again this coming Sunday....that would make my Monday so bright!!
Even brighter if Roma also loose their game.....
Now I know that you are Extremely sensitive to the last issue
I'm astonished that a french speaks about buying and corruption. What did french clubs won in Europe?? NOTHING... sorry marseille won the CL in 1993 and 2 months later they where relegated due to corruption. Some months ago a player of that team mentioned thathey got illegal substances before that game.
This time it wont happen. We deserevd to win the Champions League for the last 3 seasons but becoz of 1 reason or another some STUPID teams won it which is really bad for the beauty of the beautiful game ;) .
I never said we don't deserve to win it, I just said that your guarantees don't seem to be accurate.
Well I do apologize !
Now I am a bit fed up of this self sufficiency and major disrespect toward a team for which some of you have very little information obviously.
Now I know that you are Extremely sensitive to the last issue
I don't think any of us disrespected Lille, I know I didn't. But, without disrespecting your side, you have to admit Milan is expected to beat Lille, which is not of Milan's caliber or talent. But you got a point, so congratulations.
Saying that we fix matches in Europe is just ignorant and stupid. There's very questionable and vague evidence about us fixing matches in Italy, but I'm going to guess that you don't really know the details of Calcipoli.
To say the truth after seeing the best moments of the game again we have less but better chances to win. As far as Gila i admired him before come to us and i was very happy to see in red and blach shirt but the chance he lost against Lille i could even score from that spot!!!!.
As far as Inter come on, keep loosing all the time, as Johny Walker black label, keep walking, Inter: keep loosing all the time, the spirit of looser!!!!
:p283: :5inter: :5inter: :p283:
PhildeLille
29-09-2006, 06:48
I'm astonished that a french speaks about buying and corruption. What did french clubs won in Europe?? NOTHING... sorry marseille won the CL in 1993 and 2 months later they where relegated due to corruption. Some months ago a player of that team mentioned thathey got illegal substances before that game.
I stand by you on that one !
Marseille has probably done (and still does) this kind of corruption.
Now Thay have not done much since then and still occupy the front pages in media.
Look I said it once: apologies for getting upest, I was correct till then no ?
PhildeLille
29-09-2006, 06:49
I don't think any of us disrespected Lille, I know I didn't. But, without disrespecting your side, you have to admit Milan is expected to beat Lille, which is not of Milan's caliber or talent. But you got a point, so congratulations.
Saying that we fix matches in Europe is just ignorant and stupid. There's very questionable and vague evidence about us fixing matches in Italy, but I'm going to guess that you don't really know the details of Calcipoli.
Well I have lived for 2 years in Italy, Verona. I guess I know a bit more about Italian footbal than the average french footix.
And yes I support Chievo
ACMILAN1983
29-09-2006, 06:50
I stand by you on that one !
Marseille has probably done (and still does) this kind of corruption.
Now Thay have not done much since then and still occupy the front pages in media.
Look I said it once: apologies for getting upest, I was correct till then no ?
It was a single incident. I don't remember all of your posts, but I don't think you've done anything wrong so don't worry about it.
KingHenry®
29-09-2006, 07:12
Milan are the only Italian club (correct me if I am wrong) who collected points on this match day.
Compare Our Opposition 2 The Other Teams
Lille Is Not In The Same League As Valencia Or Bayern..
PhildeLille
29-09-2006, 08:18
Compare Our Opposition 2 The Other Teams
Lille Is Not In The Same League As Valencia Or Bayern..
Yes I fully agree. (to readjust my statements ;) )
Warro Bantan
29-09-2006, 09:05
Supreme: Doesnt matter to me...there are no "easy" games in the UCL...plus, playing every 3 days, worse with our premature start, is taxing on the players.
I remain quite satisfied with where we are in all competitions...and if we played away to the strongest side in our group, and didnt lose the game, and if I read the reports correctly, had the better opportunities to score, then, why worrry?
We are not leaking goals like we have previously done at the start of the season, and Carlo is rotating the squad more than I have ever seen him do (though I will admit that some of this was forced, due to injury etc) but he has also gone as far as to indicate that this policy will remain for some time.
All in all, I think we are ok.
KingHenry®
29-09-2006, 10:53
Well to tell you the truth it should matter to you, how can you possibly put us in the same situation? we have the easiest group in the cl and we should breeze past them not draw to such a team like lille.
some games are easy, only when the stronger teams show that killer instinct which imho milan lack this year. i worry now for you shall worry come january/febuary, if the team dont gel together they shall struggle, and i dont have to remind u or anybody else in mm what teams we could face in the last 16..
we have the easiest group in the cl and we should breeze past them not draw to such a team like lille.
Everyone thought that too when we met Deportivo and won 4-1 at home, or met PSV ... EASIEST GROUP? I'm not saying that our opponents are particular difficult like Barca or Chelsea, but saying that any group is easier than other is EXACTLY how you become complascent. Talking about complascency, I think the fans should also leran that there is no easy game in CL.
KingHenry®
29-09-2006, 20:23
Everyone thought that too when we met Deportivo and won 4-1 at home, or met PSV ... EASIEST GROUP? I'm not saying that our opponents are particular difficult like Barca or Chelsea, but saying that any group is easier than other is EXACTLY how you become complascent. Talking about complascency, I think the fans should also leran that there is no easy game in CL.
well then how can you compare our group to that of barcas group of death? werder barca and chelsea? ok take our barca and its left with cheslea and werder, trust me if this milan played like this in that group we would be the laffing stock of europe next to inter..
there are easy games, this group is easy, coach is just clueless..
ummm we probably would play better against Chelsea or Barca.. just a thought. Also I don't know if it's me only.. but I see nothing special about Chelsea's performance so far this season.. except a rejuvenated Drogba.
Milan4eva
30-09-2006, 04:21
Dunno if this has been said already but Kaladze had an absolutely horrendous game. I dunno if its just me but I've been observing over the pass few years that this dood can't tackle for nuts! Other great attacking left backs (e.g Zanetti, Cafu etc.)can tackle so much better than him. To think he had left/centre on his resume. Hell even Carlos does a better job defending than him. I know this guy has worked wonders for us as an offensive weapon and an added dimension to our attack, but PLEASE, put him back on the left or get rid of him... He falls prey way too often and too easily to pacy dribblers. I don't think we're in that much of a desperate need for center backs. Someone has to take note. Simic does a way better job than him. I mean I love him(no homo) and all but seriously, this was one of his worst games in a long while. Coulda done a Cannavaro had Dida and his teammates *coughNestacough not done a superb job.
About Seedorf, I'm starting to like him alot more these days. Hell he had an unlucky day esp. with his shots(He did have a nice valid goal disallowed mind you ;)) . But he was still one of our most productive players in the middle of the park. He's starting to gain that oh so elusive consistency that made him a regular in his first season when he won the CL. Besides, I think he's a much better player now. And this time, I hope its permanent. :)
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