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ramo79
01-06-2007, 14:50
Hassan Rossonero, I agree with you 100%. If it's true that robinho and cicinho have made those comments then they are scum, but i am not surprised. Robinho is the guy who sucker punched gravesen like a girl and backpedaled. that's not a man. As for Cicinho, does he even play. See the sad thing is that if he were playing for Milan, he would do a 180 and say the opposite. Players today unfortunately act like hookers, they go to the highest bidder and will say anything to make more money or gain a spot in the team. Instead of banning matches at high altitudes or wanting to take away the 4th place team in champions for the big countries, both UEFA and FIFA should concentrate on treating what is really sullying the game's reputation and that's corruption and tampering. Do like the American sports, where teams face severe sanctions if they tamper with players contracted to other teams. Real has never had class and the fact that people view it as europe's premier club is sad. They hire cretins like valdano, butragueno and mijatovic as sporting directors, and those men show no respect for teams that are actually greater like milan. How many yrs running did we hear the crap about shevchenko going to real. Real also have dismissed loyal and key members of their team over the yrs such as Hierro, Makelele, and Redondo. Just look at Beckham's treatment over the last 6 months. They hire garbage for coaches like Luxemburgo, Queiroz, Lopez Caro, and Capello over the last 3 yrs, and really have no plan or structure. Worst off, they have a section of their ultras that is notoriously racist and makes the disgusting "monkey" sounds when they disapprove of black players. Seedorf has spoken about that in the past. Unfortunately the kaka rumors to real won't stop and that piece of "something" Marca will keep on publishing that trash so that their readers whose iq doesn't go a point over 70 keep happy. bleep REAL!!!!!!!!

Hasan Rossonero
01-06-2007, 16:04
Hassan Rossonero, I agree with you 100%. If it's true that robinho and cicinho have made those comments then they are scum, but i am not surprised. Robinho is the guy who sucker punched gravesen like a girl and backpedaled. that's not a man. As for Cicinho, does he even play. See the sad thing is that if he were playing for Milan, he would do a 180 and say the opposite. Players today unfortunately act like hookers, they go to the highest bidder and will say anything to make more money or gain a spot in the team. Instead of banning matches at high altitudes or wanting to take away the 4th place team in champions for the big countries, both UEFA and FIFA should concentrate on treating what is really sullying the game's reputation and that's corruption and tampering. Do like the American sports, where teams face severe sanctions if they tamper with players contracted to other teams. Real has never had class and the fact that people view it as europe's premier club is sad. They hire cretins like valdano, butragueno and mijatovic as sporting directors, and those men show no respect for teams that are actually greater like milan. How many yrs running did we hear the crap about shevchenko going to real. Real also have dismissed loyal and key members of their team over the yrs such as Hierro, Makelele, and Redondo. Just look at Beckham's treatment over the last 6 months. They hire garbage for coaches like Luxemburgo, Queiroz, Lopez Caro, and Capello over the last 3 yrs, and really have no plan or structure. Worst off, they have a section of their ultras that is notoriously racist and makes the disgusting "monkey" sounds when they disapprove of black players. Seedorf has spoken about that in the past. Unfortunately the kaka rumors to real won't stop and that piece of &*$* Marca will keep on publishing that trash so that their readers whose iq doesn't go a point over 70 keep happy. FU&* REAL!!!!!!!!

Jeez ramo, tell us what you really think. :D

I agree with your sentiment, however. I think it comes down to one thing: if Berlu wants Kaka, Kaka will stay, and I know Berlu wants him.

To be fair, even Mijatovic conceded that it would be hard to sign Kaka because the player "is happy at Milan". But he added that he wouldn't surrender.

I guess we will have to endure another summer of nonsense :D.

Stitch
01-06-2007, 16:49
So far the gila transfer is the most high profile one we have been linked to :wallbang: ....actually I'd prefer a straight swap with Tony29 (juventino who wants to be a milanista) for Gila (milanista who wants to be sentences to a lifetime of corruption and boredom :guw: )...I say Gila + cash for Tony29 :respect: Tony mightn't be any better on the field ...but unlike Gila ...at least he knows it :yuck:

I'm pretty sure we would do much better without Diderror than without Gila :P

Samuca
01-06-2007, 17:16
I must say im impressed with that Denilson kid whose from San Paulo and plays for Arsenal.

Denílson is a nice player but he need to learn to deffend better, I find that São Paulo promoted him too fast to the professional team to play as deffensive midfield when he have the same characteristic of Pirlo

São Paulo's coach is very bad, didn´t knew how to work with Denílson

drucurl
02-06-2007, 01:19
This isn't some whim that I have been having....Diego is an excellent player...I've been watching him sometime now. I think we should get him because:

1)He is very skilled and can provide much needed rest for Kaka as an AM

2) He is versatile and can perform a variety of attacking midfield roles quite well...this is a plus for us because since Ancelotti has turned Kaka into a striker for the CL and Seedorf into a No 10...who knows what magic his twisted mind could conjure up for him..knowing Carlo don't be surprised to see him between the sticks :zany:

3)Very young (23-24) ...is that a bad thing??? :guw:

4)Good free-kick taker....you know, to keep Pirlo on his toes :bri:

5) Perhaps most importantly...he combines well with Kaka (see Brazil's Gold cup Videos :respect: )

tuncaysanli
02-06-2007, 04:25
Tuncay is the star of turkish football

tuncaysanli
02-06-2007, 04:26
if you didn´t see that star you should control your eyes

ramo79
02-06-2007, 06:04
ok to please you, let's assume Tuncay is the star of Turkish football. Does that mean we should go after Bosko Balaban who is the star of Belgian football???? Or Rivaldo, who is the star of Greek football. Oh, I forgot we did have Rivaldo, and we all remember how he did. Please, I wish Tuncay well, but history is not on his side. Turkish players have notoriously failed in the top leagues. Emre was an underachiever at Inter and hasn't lit the premiership on fire, Nihat is ok in spain but last I checked he wasn't scoring goals for one of the top 5 teams there. Rustu couldn't make it in Barca yet was considered one of the "so-called" best in the world. Okan at Inter was average, i still wish they had him :)
We even had Umit Davala, and his characteristics were better suited for serie A than Tuncay, and he barely played. Let's not forget the great Terim as coach. Had we not fired him so early, we might have never gotten Carletto, so we as fans should owe Terim a debt of gratitude.
If Tuncay comes and I sincerely hope the closest he comes to Milanello is as a fan, he won't do well. I always want players that come to Milan to do well, even the trickiest of guys, but I am confident and history is on my side, he will have no whatsoever impact in Milan.
On another note, some sensationalist story today on gazzetta.it regarding a swap btw gila and adriano. I can't believe gilardino, he should be happy that the team is getting better by wanting to bring in another top class striker. If this is really how he feels then he should leave because he doesn't have the team's best interest at heart, and more alarming, he has not faith in his footballing skills that he can beat out the competition. If that's the case, he's not milan caliber. Sad because I wanted gila to be the next great striker at Milan :(

Stezagud
02-06-2007, 07:20
yeah but Ramo, Tugay has been a class act at Blackburn so there is at least1 success story :D

I dont like the idea of pre judging a player because of his nationality and history. Look at George Weah for one, there are probably a lot of coaches who turned him down thinking nobody decent ever came from Liberia.....If you want to judge a player then do so on an individual basis, personally i've seen Tuncay play a few times and he was pretty impressive, though im not sure he is Milan quality.

ramo79
02-06-2007, 09:03
fair enough. I am just trying to make a pt. Weah was great but he is 1 in a million. With every generalization there are counter examples. I think Galliani, hopefully through his 20 yrs as milan VP has learned that some players from certain leagues won't make it in serie A or Milan. If Tuncay ever comes to Milan (i hope not) and is good, I will be glad to eat my words. However, I have been watching football for a long time and believe that more likely than not, he won't make it in our club. I was going to say we shall see, but i hope it doesnt get to that pt.

tuncaysanli
02-06-2007, 12:00
man i didn´t say milan should buy him

tuncaysanli
02-06-2007, 12:01
if you read correctly,you will see.he is our star

ramo79
02-06-2007, 12:07
Ok I am very happy for you that he is your star. I hope he spends his whole career playing for Fenerbahce. You know I can't help myself, but if that's your star, then it isn't shining very brightly. As a wise man once said, in the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed is king.

rosoneri_11
02-06-2007, 12:16
Sanly Tuncay is a good player, but not the new seedorf or something like Ribery or malouda.
He is good but not for a milan game starter.
I feel very sad because after CL tropfey i was hoping that we were after Ribery for seedorfs
position, and now i read this article and i can't understand how can be Tuncay better than Ribery?
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Anyway i'am very very sad because we didn't tryed to sign Andersson from Porto and now he is
Man Utd player.
Inter is very close to sign Chivu.
I hope us to sign Pato, we mustn't loose that talent!
And i hope to make some good signs and not players like tuncay.

tuncaysanli
02-06-2007, 12:18
ramo i don´t want to argue with you.and don´t try to pull the subject another way like blackening

mrki
02-06-2007, 12:49
Gazzetta is writing about Adriano-Gila swap. And they say Milan fans have a petittions like they did with Sheva for Gilardino to stay. They dont want young Italian player to go to inter. Personally, I like Gila and I really wanted him in Milan but he is simply not playing good. Adriano is ALSO not playing good football, but is a better player than Gila when he is in form. Aldough I dont thing this will happen, if it by some miracle happens I dont know how should I react.

Inter is close to signing Chivu, and if that happens we can forget about Mexes.
Its good that press is not writing a lot about Milan, im sure they have some kind of a plan, I just hope they dont look too long like last year.
1. we find few players that we need
2. We go there by plane with Berlusconi-Galliani-Braida-C.Maldini
3. We pay the club, the player
4. We present the player in Milanello
:) They should make some kind of an action " Make Milan stronger in 15 days". so we are finished with mercato and we can relax and start talking about tactics :)

Mystik
02-06-2007, 13:13
I REALLY doubt Gila would go to Inter. He was just jumping and singing 'chi non salta Nerazurro e' e' the other day. THAT and I really think we'd be losing our 'Italian-ness' by losing an Italian for yet ANOTHER Brazilian. No offense but Milan is an ITALIAN club and we have enough Brazilians already.

I think Gila will be given this coming season to prove himself in a 'normal' season and if he doesn't then they might consider letting him go.

Hasan Rossonero
02-06-2007, 13:50
From acmilan.com:

ALBERTO GILARDINO NON SI E' OFFERTO A NESSUNO
02/06/2007
MILANO - Alberto Gilardino, attraverso il suo procuratore Beppe Bonetto, ha fatto sapere oggi ad Adriano Galliani, amministratore delegato del Milan, di non essersi proposto, nella maniera piu' assoluta, all'Inter. Del resto la notizia era apparsa subito molto strana ai tifosi rossoneri, dal momento che è come minimo inverosimile che un giocatore del club Campione d'Europa, impegnato nella prossima stagione in Super Coppa Europea e nel Mondiale per Club, possa offrirsi a qualsiasi altra squadra.

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The gist of it is that Gilardino has not been offered to anyone. Definitely not to Inter.

Mystik
02-06-2007, 13:56
I definitely wonder how these newspapers come up with these stories. Is that even legal ? To just write random stuff to sell copies.

drucurl
02-06-2007, 14:07
From acmilan.com:

ALBERTO GILARDINO NON SI E' OFFERTO A NESSUNO
02/06/2007
MILANO - Alberto Gilardino, attraverso il suo procuratore Beppe Bonetto, ha fatto sapere oggi ad Adriano Galliani, amministratore delegato del Milan, di non essersi proposto, nella maniera piu' assoluta, all'Inter. Del resto la notizia era apparsa subito molto strana ai tifosi rossoneri, dal momento che è come minimo inverosimile che un giocatore del club Campione d'Europa, impegnato nella prossima stagione in Super Coppa Europea e nel Mondiale per Club, possa offrirsi a qualsiasi altra squadra.

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The gist of it is that Gilardino has not been offered to anyone. Definitely not to Inter.
:( :( :( :( I need a hug :sweeteye:

Nalx
02-06-2007, 14:12
Gila can't complain about Milan's after new striker. Look at other club striking partner like Rocchi+Pandev or Toni+Mutu who netted about 30 goals last season. Gila did score 12 times but the rest of our strikers (except Ronaldo) did poorly last year. Just the same, I doubt we'll swap him with Inter. We don't need Adriano or any other part-goer

Hasan Rossonero
02-06-2007, 14:17
:( :( :( :( I need a hug :sweeteye:

Here's the best I can do:

:1five:

Leo
02-06-2007, 15:42
I'd go for Adriano over Gila any day. To be honest Adriano not on form plays similar to Gila most of the time and when Adriano is on form, he is unstoppable. I believe Milan would give Adriano the right atmosphere to settle down and become more serious as opposed to the circus atmosphere at inter.

Stitch
02-06-2007, 16:51
:( :( :( :( I need a hug :sweeteye:


:devf: I'm no Gila fan, but you truly can overreact sometimes :devf:

I know how you feel. I felt the same way when Dida's contract was renewed :mad:

Hasan Rossonero
02-06-2007, 17:36
:devf: I'm no Gila fan, but you truly can overreact sometimes :devf:

I know how you feel. I felt the same way when Dida's contract was renewed :mad:
I was profoundly depressed when Dida's contract was renewed.

Stitch
02-06-2007, 17:56
I was profoundly depressed when Dida's contract was renewed.

join the club :D

drucurl
02-06-2007, 18:37
I'm not the biggest fan of gila but i prefer him to adriano :yuck: If we can't get huntelaar or pato then we should keep him

mrki
02-06-2007, 19:03
Pippo just scored twice as Italia win 2-1! Im afraid we have some problems with Galliani again,and that Moratti will do everything possible to hurt Milan's mercato just like last year. We did great this year by winning CL, but we havent won Serie a for 3 years now and that should be our first priority. For that we really need few players, and I hope Berlusconi will do something baout it.

Once again I saw Ribery today. Perfect player for us, he could really help a lot.

GilAttack [11]
02-06-2007, 19:41
I'd go for Adriano over Gila any day. To be honest Adriano not on form plays similar to Gila most of the time and when Adriano is on form, he is unstoppable. I believe Milan would give Adriano the right atmosphere to settle down and become more serious as opposed to the circus atmosphere at inter.

Its all about Adriano, not Inter. He is the only having trouble over there, so it isnt Inter's fault if he likes to go party every night.
Now, switching teams could be a positive thing for him. Like starting again from zero and go from there.

Sleep
02-06-2007, 22:55
Scoring less than 15 goals in a particular season is ok. Since Gilardino has score so many goals in the 3 seasons before. Just 1 season down on his luck. I hope he will stay with us and start being a goal machine again. Oliveira can go, Inzaghi can retire, but not Gilardino. The best young striker of Italian, Forza Gilardino.

fenerfan
03-06-2007, 02:09
I hope he spends his whole career playing for Fenerbahce.
Seriously hope not. :mad:

You know I can't help myself, but if that's your star, then it isn't shining very brightly. As a wise man once said, in the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed is king.
:pp20:

fenerfan
03-06-2007, 04:13
if you didn´t see that star you should control your eyes
I assume that yr post was in respond to a previous answer of mine and judging frm yr nick, u r a fellow citizen. Well, I just did break 2 of my general rules. 1)Never assume 2)Do not go into any debates over names pro bono. While I can understand yr affection towards Tuncay, I'm surprised at some of the fellow posters who decide to follow the same path.

Come on guys! Milan is and always will be one of the 6 internationally established teams in the footballing world. A worldclass team, needs every player to be of a basic talent level. Only if they have that basic level of technique and quality, can they use their other skills like determination or leadership skills to play at the very top. It should take more than a handfull
televised games or eurosport highlights frm his brightest moments to recommend him as a part of Milan's squad.

I've been in the soccer business professionally too long to know that I do not have the luxury of holding a grudge or involving any emotional factors in my judgements. Equally I have nothing against Tuncay personally. The reason that I'm against Tuncay's "possible" transfer to Milan is that I'm sure he will fail and I'd hate to see another example of Turkish player failure in the int'l arena.

There so many players who reach a certain level of technique and quality at a young age and never go to the second gear due to quite a many reasons. IMHO, Tuncay is one of them. He was already a 10-12 carrats gold when he came to Fenerbahce. How many more carrats has he put on since? Zilch.

Instead of covering up for his lack of fundamental build-up or further shining his strong sides with extra work, he preferred to be fan-phenomenal rather than decisive. Works back at home, but he and his agent should know better that it takes A LOT MORE to survive in the league of big boys.

Tuncay is a very much over rated one trick pony who believes his own hype! He is an energetic and athletic driving midfielder, but he lacks the vision, technique, intelligence and patience to become a truly great player. Quicker, stronger, younger doesn't make you better, performances on the pitch do.
He only shows flashes of brilliance but only just enough to tease people into increased expectations, not enough to fulfill them. He still can't cross a dangerous ball into the box regularly enough, no good percentage of accurate shots on the goal or, lacks decent ball control which is one of the central tenets of football, gets dispossessed on the ball on many occasions when he should play a simple pass. With all those missing he is certainly too many tricks and not enough penetration. This is his solo capacity evaluation.

Team evaluation just frustrates me even more. He runs up blind alleys w/ no end product, gets too excited thinking he has to do it all on his own, forges no understanding of playing one-twos, lacks discipline, no positional awareness, does not link up play or bring in his teammates into areas of action or stretch the game for others.

It must be tricky having him running at you. Drawing defenders to you and creating space inside is only good if you give it to someone those defenders aren't marking, but too often the head goes down, he indulges in some hip wiggling and misses the chance to play the killer pass to take advantage of the marking. He is far too selfish just because he is constantly putting his own image above the need to win the game.

Often, he only seems to play well in games when they receive absolutely no pressure whatsoever and everything is great, but when everything is going bad he disappears from the game and I'm afraid that too many times he just looks ordinary. With space he is sometimes effective, but against combative and skillful players he is simply not good enough and does not actually show up on the radar at all. He apparently can’t perform on the big stage and only ever really prospers against teams that believe his hype and give him the room start.

But NOT holding the ball up well and losing possession 90% of the time he gets it is quite a unbearable liability, particularly if everybody wants to eulogize about how great he is all the time.

I could have gone for pages of negatives accompanied w/ examples of his foul-ups frm specific games, but nuff said. All of the above have been based on me watching him live in +100 games frm a professional's POW. So, if anybody wants to discuss Tuncay w/ me, please feel free to do so on a rational basis. But don't give me all these mere postings of Tuncay's stardom or being great in this game or best player on that game BS. I think this forum deserves more than that.

Also, some of you might think "If he is such a bad player then why is he still on Fenerbahce's roster?" Well, simply he is one of the so-called untouchables. Why do I want him off the team? Cause we need fighters for the team, not fighters for themselves and I love my team above any name. The nick says so.
(Right tuncaysanli nicked friend?)

tuncaysanli
03-06-2007, 07:07
i don´t want to argue with you and disturb this forum sorry but read what i wrote correctly i only say that

Ghost
03-06-2007, 08:20
Gila "cannot guarantee" Milan stay
Sunday 3 June, 2007
Alberto Gilardino has told Milan he is sick of being treated as a flop and is looking at other alternatives. “I cannot guarantee I will stay.”

The striker moved from Parma for around £18m in 2005, but has struggled to live up to that price-tag and in two seasons has managed just two Champions League goals.

With Ronaldo no longer cup-tied, Filippo Inzaghi on fire, Kaka moved to a more advanced role and reports that Andriy Shevchenko will return after his spell at Chelsea, there is less and less room for Gila.

“The situation is simple. I am happy at Milan, but I cannot guarantee I will stay here,” he told the ‘Gazzetta dello Sport.’

“I have a long contract and an excellent rapport with the Rossoneri environment, but anything can happen in football and I am evaluating other options. I would not be honest if I denied that.

“For me the faith of the club and the Coach are indispensable. In the past I had that and would like for it to be there in the future.”

The decision to drop him in favour of Inzaghi – who scored a decisive brace – for the Champions League Final against Liverpool seems to have left its mark.

“I want to be able to play without all these doubts being raised on my first error or negative performance. At the age of 25 I want to play consistently and repay Milan for the investment they made in me.

“I thought I would play in Athens, I admit it. When I found out I was on the bench, I was disappointed,” he confessed.

“But I always put the team above all personal considerations and just tried to concentrate so I could do my best in the few minutes that Carlo Ancelotti granted me. Lifting the trophy put all that disappointment behind me.”

With constant rumours of new hitmen from Ronaldinho, Samuel Eto’o and Shevchenko coming to San Siro, will Gilardino ask to be sold if another forward arrives?

“I am not afraid of competition. I have always sought my space with great champions like Shevchenko, Inzaghi, Christian Vieri and Ronaldo. If the competition is fair and the player who is in the best shape goes on to the field, then I have no problems.”

This week there were claims in the newspapers that Gilardino had openly offered himself to Inter, but he and his agent denied these suggestions.

“That is absolutely not true,” the former Parma man told the ‘Gazzetta’. “I can pledge to the Milan fans, who I get along very well with, that I have not approached anyone, let alone Inter. A few supporters jeered me this season, but the majority are behind me. I want to repay them with many goals.”

Among those linked with a summer bid for Gilardino are the new Juventus and Barcelona, who are probably seeking a replacement for Eto’o.

“These are great clubs and I am pleased to hear of their interest, but Milan are the top club. It’s difficult to imagine walking out on them and they are my first choice. However, if I didn’t feel they had faith in me, then I would look elsewhere.”

When asked point blank if he felt he was always facing tests of his abilities and that there were doubts around him, the World Cup winner answered truthfully.

“Yes, I feel that I am in doubt and in all honesty I don’t know why. I think this is surreal and at times it seems like an incredible situation.”

In two seasons Gilardino has scored 29 Serie A goals for Milan and was their top scorer this term on 12 in 30 appearances.
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I think personally Gilla is on his way out.

_MaJi_tz
03-06-2007, 09:09
Galiani told that all players will stay with club but after see this I also thin that gila is out.....I am very sorry gila is very good italian striker and has only 25.If can bring tevez huntellar or torres than I think it s better for gila to go away.But if bring sheva and say ciao to gila that will be very very crazy. It s seems that we have another bad transfers this year
Forza Gila#11
Forza Milan

drucurl
03-06-2007, 09:14
Gila "cannot guarantee" Milan stay
Sunday 3 June, 2007
Alberto Gilardino has told Milan he is sick of being treated as a flop and is looking at other alternatives. “I cannot guarantee I will stay.”

The striker moved from Parma for around £18m in 2005, but has struggled to live up to that price-tag and in two seasons has managed just two Champions League goals.

With Ronaldo no longer cup-tied, Filippo Inzaghi on fire, Kaka moved to a more advanced role and reports that Andriy Shevchenko will return after his spell at Chelsea, there is less and less room for Gila.

“The situation is simple. I am happy at Milan, but I cannot guarantee I will stay here,” he told the ‘Gazzetta dello Sport.’

“I have a long contract and an excellent rapport with the Rossoneri environment, but anything can happen in football and I am evaluating other options. I would not be honest if I denied that.

“For me the faith of the club and the Coach are indispensable. In the past I had that and would like for it to be there in the future.”

The decision to drop him in favour of Inzaghi – who scored a decisive brace – for the Champions League Final against Liverpool seems to have left its mark.

“I want to be able to play without all these doubts being raised on my first error or negative performance. At the age of 25 I want to play consistently and repay Milan for the investment they made in me.

“I thought I would play in Athens, I admit it. When I found out I was on the bench, I was disappointed,” he confessed.

“But I always put the team above all personal considerations and just tried to concentrate so I could do my best in the few minutes that Carlo Ancelotti granted me. Lifting the trophy put all that disappointment behind me.”

With constant rumours of new hitmen from Ronaldinho, Samuel Eto’o and Shevchenko coming to San Siro, will Gilardino ask to be sold if another forward arrives?

“I am not afraid of competition. I have always sought my space with great champions like Shevchenko, Inzaghi, Christian Vieri and Ronaldo. If the competition is fair and the player who is in the best shape goes on to the field, then I have no problems.”

This week there were claims in the newspapers that Gilardino had openly offered himself to Inter, but he and his agent denied these suggestions.

“That is absolutely not true,” the former Parma man told the ‘Gazzetta’. “I can pledge to the Milan fans, who I get along very well with, that I have not approached anyone, let alone Inter. A few supporters jeered me this season, but the majority are behind me. I want to repay them with many goals.”

Among those linked with a summer bid for Gilardino are the new Juventus and Barcelona, who are probably seeking a replacement for Eto’o.

“These are great clubs and I am pleased to hear of their interest, but Milan are the top club. It’s difficult to imagine walking out on them and they are my first choice. However, if I didn’t feel they had faith in me, then I would look elsewhere.”

When asked point blank if he felt he was always facing tests of his abilities and that there were doubts around him, the World Cup winner answered truthfully.

“Yes, I feel that I am in doubt and in all honesty I don’t know why. I think this is surreal and at times it seems like an incredible situation.”

In two seasons Gilardino has scored 29 Serie A goals for Milan and was their top scorer this term on 12 in 30 appearances.
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I think personally Gilla is on his way out.

:1ole: :1ole: :27rr: :27rr: :510: :5schal: :cheers: :djn: :3band: :1five:

mrki
03-06-2007, 10:26
Papers say emerson will have medical check in Milanello on june 18th!

K77SH C
03-06-2007, 10:39
I dont want him at Milan. If we need a defensive midfielder then I would much prefer a younger option like Sissoko. Would it be a bad thing for Milan to buy really young and invest in the future. chelsea bought Mikel, liverpool got Mascherano and Real bought Gago. They have become important players in less than a season.

Come on Milan, lets add some energy to this squad.

Stezagud
03-06-2007, 10:47
Yeah Sissoko is capable of filling the role for a decade, he is a top player who already has a lot of experience and i'd hate to see him end up at Juve.

The problem for Milan is how to integrate him though, the midfield is already an effective unit and capable of continuing for a few years yet. Emerson is a decent alternative because he has already had a career and is more likely to settle for a plac eon the bench, coming on whenever a bit of experience is required to close out a game.

lked
03-06-2007, 11:19
Gila should stay here and i know he will . [ GILARDINO ] a born Rossonero !
This year I'd go for Quaresma :5ok:

Arildonardo
03-06-2007, 11:21
What's the deal with Sissoko? The guy is not good enough for Liverpool and now "all of Europe" wants him? I've never seen him THAT good...

Graeme C
03-06-2007, 11:23
i have a feeling, if Beckhams deal to LA galaxy goes to pot he will sign for us this summer!

Arildonardo
03-06-2007, 11:26
i have a feeling, if Beckhams deal to LA galaxy goes to pot he will sign for us this summer!
He is still a bit too young for Milan, isn't he? :grinser:

mrki
03-06-2007, 11:31
If we buy Beckham we should shoot somebody in the club. I dont think we will do it, we dont need him at all. Or Sissoko.

Kaka1899
03-06-2007, 12:30
Have we bought Emerson? may sound stupid but there are some guys on Juventus forums saying that we have

Bosniaco
03-06-2007, 12:38
Looks like we are only capable of getting players that are warn out, over 30. That sucks, while other clubs invest in the future we look back in time.

zlatanov
03-06-2007, 12:39
If we buy Beckham we should shoot somebody in the club. I dont think we will do it, we dont need him at all. Or Sissoko.
interesting, 'cause if it wasn't for Beckham to revive their team, the Real M fans would have already shot somebody, or should I say everybody, in their club, starting with Capello and all the way to Calderon :)

Graeme C
03-06-2007, 12:41
this is the way i see it, i cant see what he would add for us. But we need good squad players, plus the marketing from him would be nice..

mrki
03-06-2007, 12:46
interesting, 'cause if it wasn't for Beckham to revive their team, the Real M fans would have already shot somebody, or should I say everybody, in their club, starting with Capello and all the way to Calderon :)

if you find a way to play 32 year old Beckham in our sistem, please let me know. REal merda plays 4-4-2 or 4-3-3

Tony29.
03-06-2007, 12:56
Emerson would be the smartest transfer move.
Brings stability and is a rock.
Emo-Gatusso will be the best DMC partnership in the world...of all time ! It beats Emerson-Vieira in Juve and Vieira-Makelele in France.

I know he's hard to love, even if he plays for your own team, and his way of play isn't the most attractive one. But ask anyone in Juve or Roma ( or Brasil) to tell you how did their teams play with and without Emo, and i guarantee you they will all say their teams were different and much better with Emerson playing.

zlatanov
03-06-2007, 13:01
Beckham can play in the Pirlo role or next to Kaka behind a single striker ... or soemtimes even in Gattuso's role to provide more attacking quality vs certain teams now that we have Oddo at RB, who is pretty sollid in defense.
of course we could always use him as a Right wing if necessary.

there are plenty of roles he could be useful ... and that's in the short run of ocurse as he is a no long-term investment ... plus, it's not like he is gonna be an automatiuc starter.

Plus he would be available for free, so it's not like we would be putting much money into him.
Most imporantly, however, he is big game player and could be useful with his experience and ball-distibution in CL games.

Like him or not the guy has his qualities and the makeover his presence gave to Real M and England NT is testamant for that ... such players can always be useful even if at first it seems he won't fit to Milan's system, and that's exactly what Carlo's approach to quality players is, and he said it in gazzetta - "bring them in and after that I will worry about where to play them" ;)

of course getting a younger player would probably be better for the team, with future in mind, but I won't lose sleep if Milan decides to bring in a 30+ yo Beckham or Emerson.

Hasan Rossonero
03-06-2007, 13:10
Today Carlo said that the club will go for a midfielder and attacker.

Our midfielder looks like Emerson, but what of the striker? Carlo said it's hard to get forwards because they play in great teams.

Does anyone else get the feeling that our market won't be as busy was we all are hoping for? I'm not saying that's a bad thing, but what does everyone think?

Kaka1899
03-06-2007, 13:19
Today Carlo said that the club will go for a midfielder and attacker.

Our midfielder looks like Emerson, but what of the striker? Carlo said it's hard to get forwards because they play in great teams.

Does anyone else get the feeling that our market won't be as busy was we all are hoping for? I'm not saying that's a bad thing, but what does everyone think?


Yeah i agree all these rumors keep flying round but really i think it will be a bit like last year not much happening really we might get R10,Emerson and a striker and thats it really unless we can add a defender along the way hopefully Daniel Alves. we just need to strengthen not rebuild the team imo

GilAttack [11]
03-06-2007, 13:23
Today Carlo said that the club will go for a midfielder and attacker.

Our midfielder looks like Emerson, but what of the striker? Carlo said it's hard to get forwards because they play in great teams.

Does anyone else get the feeling that our market won't be as busy was we all are hoping for? I'm not saying that's a bad thing, but what does everyone think?

I remember Berlusconi saying that we would make a big splash during the summer market, but I wonder if he changed his opinion after we won the UCL.

GilAttack [11]
03-06-2007, 13:23
Yeah i agree all these rumors keep flying round but really i think it will be a bit like last year not much happening really we might get R10,Emerson and a striker and thats it really unless we can add a defender along the way hopefully Daniel Alves. we just need to strengthen not rebuild the team imo

Defender and Daniel Alves sound like black and white.

zlatanov
03-06-2007, 13:31
I think it's gonna be either Dinho or a striker (one of Sheva, Eto'o, Henry methinks) but not both ... I really don't see Carlo playing Dinho in midfield or even attacking midfield but as a support striker between Kaka and Ronaldo/Gila.

it would all depend on whether players like Simic, Favalli (expect him to stay), Brocchi stay or leave ... their contracts, Brocchi's more precisely, were extended but still that doesn't mean they will not be send on loan or as part of deal for another player.

If Donati is indeed coming back and Emerson to be added, then I would expect to see Brocchi leave as that would be way too many Central mids to have.

Other than that I expect a strong LB (Zambrotta, Abidal, etc), a physical CM (Emerson, De Rossi, Diarra etc), and either Dinho or a striker (Sheva, Eto'o, Henry, etc) to be top priorities and poitions Milan to go for.

Hope we would, eventually, get a mid like Ze Roberto/Ribery and a strong CD too as Maldini's and kaladze's situations in terms of being injury prone doesn't look too pink at the moment.

would love to see Milan steal Chivu (can play both LB and CD for us) under Inter's nose though :D

zeshkani
03-06-2007, 13:47
AC Milan offer £7M for Gremio star Carlos Eduardo
tribalfooball.com - June 03, 2007

AC Milan have made a £7 million bid for Gremio midfielder Carlos Eduardo.
The agent of the Brazil U20 star, Jorge Machado, revealed the Rossoneri's offer and also the rival interest of Barcelona.

Gremio president Paulo Odone insists they won't consider selling Carlos Eduardo, who will be watched by Milan and Barcelona at the U20 World Championships in Canada this summer.

Tony29.
03-06-2007, 14:56
Ancelotti: Gila can go
http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jun3p.html

Carlo also confirms Milan's interest in Henry

Ghost
03-06-2007, 15:04
Im not sure about comparing to Viera-Maka that has to be one of the best DM I have seen.

On another note there has been talk about Henry, if he was to leave and ended up in Barca I can honestly say they are going to be one of the strongest in Europe who could give Milan a run for their money.

Imagine Messi, Deco, R10. Eto and Henry in one team. There is alot of talk about Henry leaving Arsenal he might he might not but Barca have said it clear that Eto will not leave them. So Berlu if you can read this please prize Henry away from Arsenal before Barca do it, I cannot stand them.

K77SH C
03-06-2007, 15:15
Sissoko is wanted because he runs and tackles all day long. The only reason he isnt wanted at Liverpool is because they have Alonso, Mascherano and Gerrard. Believe me, this guy given the chance at Milan could be awesome. There is the question of where he would fit in. But he would be cheaper than Ronaldhinio and would fit in alot easier than him too. Everyone knows Ambro is injury prone and the formation including him with Pirlo and Rino has won us the CL. Sissoko could just slot right in.

As for Beckham, for the love of God dont ruin this football club. Please!! How long has he been at Real and he finally starts playing well in a handful of games. That by no means makes him good enough. Especially, when you consider that he started playing well after he signed for the yanks. At this point he had nothing to lose. What has it been, 3 years at Real and he starts playing well towards the end of his farewell. No thankyou.

K77SH C
03-06-2007, 15:18
AC Milan offer £7M for Gremio star Carlos Eduardo
tribalfooball.co.............

Oops I stopped reading

Arildonardo
03-06-2007, 15:28
Ancelotti: Gila can go
http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jun3p.html

Carlo also confirms Milan's interest in Henry
Yeah, Gila is too young. Let him leave! :rolleyes:

Seems like we never will reinforce our team with young players...

zlatanov
03-06-2007, 15:47
what Carlo said is in a much dif tone as to the title of that Channel 4 article.

I just read Carlo's words on acmilan.com (italian version, english should be soon updated) and the general tone of his words regarding Gila is not an all-out "Gila can Go" but rather surprise (bitter surprise and even disappointment, a bit like the case with kaladze) from Gila's latest statements where he failed to commit to Milan and created an impression that he doesn't have the support/trust of the team and coach.

Carlo goes on to say that at Milan there are many quality players and it is to be expected that many will not be able to start in a game like the CL final ... and he gives Pippo as an example for how hard work and being constantly at the dispodal of the team can do wonders for a player.

regarding Gila's words of there being a possibility that he is sold, Carlo does say that it's not certain that "Gila's wish to leave might NOT be granted by the club" but he also says that, as Galliani made it clear after the Sheva-saga, that "there is also the possibility that a player may be kept at Milan even if it is against his wish".

mrki
03-06-2007, 15:47
Carlo is getting meaner! :)

NAMMY
03-06-2007, 15:54
Milan Hold Henry Interest (http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=470054&CPID=21&clid=120&lid=2&title=Milan+hold+Henry+interest)

Carlo Ancelotti has admitted Milan hold an interest in Arsenal striker Thierry Henry.

Henry is once again being linked with a move away from Arsenal, with Barcelona reportedly hot on the Frenchman's trail.

The Gunners have stated their intention to retain the services of their talisman, but his future continues to be speculated upon and Ancelotti has added fuel to the fire by admitting he could be interested in signing the former Monaco man.

"Our will is to sign a midfielder and a forward," Ancelotti told the Italian press. "You know of the names that are circulating.

"There are lots of big-name strikers, but there is nothing concrete as these players are playing for big teams.

"Henry is a great player and he could be of interest to us."

Real Madrid midfielder Emerson would appear to be Ancelotti's favoured choice to bolster his engine room.

He added: "Emerson? I don't want to talk about names, but the club have the idea who I want to sign.

"And if you ask me if Emerson has the characteristics of the player I want, I would answer by saying the player we are looking for has Emerson's characteristics."

How about some defenders Carlo?

I'm not too sure what to think of Gila, he has potential (and we've seen some of it), though he often doesn't seem to perform. If we can get someone better in ... :dontkn:

Tony29.
03-06-2007, 15:55
"there is also the possibility that a player may be kept at Milan even if it is against his wish".This is what all teams should do. Players got so much freedom that they started blackmailing the teams. Not acceptable !

Ok, sometimes it turns out bad to keep a player against his will, but with time passing most of the players who wanted to leave at the beggining of the season started contributing.

Didn't Juve keep Camoranesi, Zebina and Trez against their wish ? Camo and Zebina even refused to play at the beggining. As the season went on, Camoranesi got to his old self and was a real beast. Trez started celebrating his goals the way he used to and the greatest suprise is Zebina. In second part of the season Zebina found the passion again. He was the best defender in serie B from January till June.

Again, teams shouldn't allow to be blackmailed by their employers ! Gila should leave only if it's a mutual decission and if the team also profits from that.

Giorgos
03-06-2007, 17:59
would love to see Milan steal Chivu (can play both LB and CD for us) under Inter's nose though :D[/QUOTE]


He is also a free kick specialist. :5ok:

Mystik
03-06-2007, 19:55
What I didn't like in that Channel4 interview was where Carlo labelled Kaka as immovable from the starting 11. IMO if ANYBODY sucks it up on the field they can/should be benched(as long as we have adequate replacement).

Oldman
03-06-2007, 20:19
What I didn't like in that Channel4 interview was where Carlo labelled Kaka as immovable from the starting 11. IMO if ANYBODY sucks it up on the field they can/should be benched(as long as we have adequate replacement).

I think Carletto's statement is based on recent and present situation where Kaka is always in good condition. And the statement was proven that Kaka was always in good shape and give positive contribution to Milan to win almost every games, either with his assists or his direct shoots to score. Do you think that we can be at CL Finals and won the trophy without him..of course not to ignore all of Milan players who involve in those games. It is for no doubt that Kaka will be benched if his play doesn't match and help the squad to play its best..nothing to be said as this is a standard procedure in choosing players to go on the pitch in every game.

Let us be positive with Carletto's statement as we have to first trust our coach and all the players at his disposals approaching the next season which is for sure be tougher with the comeback of Juve.

eltomas2
03-06-2007, 20:55
...I was hoping Milan will go for some kind of defender, specially after Janku's performance Vs Liverpool. Glad to see Emerson being linked to Milan, is a Right-Now solution, don't need to use the excuse "oh, but he's got potential" with a player like him, either he plays and trains hard (knowing that his time is limited) or he'll just go the bench. Another reason is that unfortunately Ambro has a chronic injury problem, his injuries will continue. With Emerson coming, Oliveira will probably go the other way so we definitely need a striker; both ronnie and pippo are injury prone and it looks like Gila might leave so hopefully will get one of the following: R10, Henry, Eto or Sheva. This season has taught me a valuable lesson, you can invest for the future or you can invest for now which is why Milan seems to go for these players who we sometimes say are "old" but is cause they get the job done NOW, plus they are also cheap. Just look at Seedorf. After this season I have more trust and faith in the so-called veterans.

Sleep
03-06-2007, 21:21
Inzaghi can't play every match, with his condition now, he can only pay 1->2 matches in 2 weeks, Oliveira can go, so we only have 2 main strikers Ronaldo and Gilardino. If Gilardino still has patience, he can certainly earn a place.

I don't like Henry. He can lose his shape easily, much more easily than Gilardino. And he is 30. I don't understand why most of carlo's interest are older than 29 while we are supposed to make our team younger.

drucurl
04-06-2007, 04:12
he message from Carlo Ancelotti to Alberto Gilardino seems to be very clear: 'stop complaining and fight for a place, or pack your bags'.
Gilardino Can Leave, Raps Angry Ancelotti
zoom - galleria

Gilardino has failed to convince this season, and had hit out at the lack of faith in his abilities earlier in the weekend, insisting that he would "not confirm" his future unless offered guarantees.

His fear seems to be that with Inzaghi, Ronaldo and another top forward coming in, he will be fourth in line at best.

However, Carlo Ancelotti is clearly unimpressed with the fear, and gave the striker a piece of his mind.

"Competition must act as an incentive to do better, and not feel like a weight on your shoulders," he rapped.

"Gilardino is young, can still improve and has already scored a lot of goals. Like everyone, he has had his ups and downs."

"If he thinks he needs to go, then there is no reason why we can’t help him achieve that, as long as we find a valid alternative," quipped Ancelotti, clearly unhappy.

“Up until a few days ago he seemed relaxed and the situation was under control. He speaks of faith and fair play, but we have always put our trust in him.

"I always considered him an important player, even if at Milan competition for places is mandatory."

He then told Gilardino to learn from Inzaghi, instead of being offended at missing out on the Champions League final.

"The only player at Milan who is sure of always being first choice is Kaka," revealed Ancelotti. "Everyone should take Inzaghi as an example, a player who takes his profession very seriously.

"He is always ready and works hard no matter what, so he earned his place in the most important match. It is often said that Inzaghi is in love with the goal, but the truth is that the goal is in love with him."

Gilardino has been linked with Juventus of late.
goal.com



Gotta Say that
Ancelotti is the sexiest Coach ever :bri:
First he brings in Ronaldo :1ole:
Then he wins the CL (again) :rone:
Then he tells Gila GTFO :987: :ban:
What more could he do :dontkn: convince Mourinho to loan Sheva to S****horpe United :D

drucurl
04-06-2007, 04:14
OMG :eekani: I can't say S-C-U-N-T-H-O-R-P-E because of letters 2-5 in the word :haha:

Stitch
04-06-2007, 05:31
dru,

don't let me start doubting you and mzk have something in common, with the remarks about good looking/sexy players/coaches :D :D :D

hwmook
04-06-2007, 07:21
What's the deal with Sissoko? The guy is not good enough for Liverpool and now "all of Europe" wants him? I've never seen him THAT good...

He was good during the WC and for some period with liverpool thus having the right potential. I must admit some of his games with liverpool is really crap. my friend, an liverpool fan was praying for him to be dropped from the team cos he play so badly.

I don't see him as an excellent player now but he does have the potential and this season he was injuried and didn't really show his form after that.....

hwmook
04-06-2007, 07:30
What has it been, 3 years at Real and he starts playing well towards the end of his farewell. No thankyou.

No, he played very well at the start of his transfer to Real madrid and i dare to say, that beckham is even better than the one i saw at Man U with more vision and variety to his play. But as his stay progress, his performance degrade like the rest the team with all those unrest, changing of coaches etc.

I won't lose sleep if he is coming over to milan, he can add something to our team.

jtelly
04-06-2007, 08:32
Just read that Heinze is available for 5 mil (pounds). Barca or Madrid interested...I just keep thinking he's going to come back good, he'd be surrounded by the masters to improve his defence, and he's a marauder up the line. If you saw him at the Olympics, first year at ManU, there's definitely potential. Why not? 5 mil is chump change and he's a young buck. Groovy hair, too.

Ghost
04-06-2007, 09:03
Cant believe Inter are going for Suazo, he would of been good in our team.

Tony29.
04-06-2007, 09:43
Shortly from Italian sports journals:

According to Gazzetta dello sport, talks about Gilardino leaving already started. Gilardino's choice (if he leaves) would be Juventus, but swap deal Gila-Adriano shouldn't be excluded. The least possibile alternative is Gilardino+money for Eto'o, but it's not very possibile because Barcelona want's to keep the star trio and add Henry.
Also, according to this same newspaper, the 3 Brazilians : Emerson, Edmilson and Thiago Motta are the main candidates to strenghten Milan's midfield.

The main story of today's Corriere dello Sport is Sheva-Adriano swap. Moratti offered this to Chelsea.
They also mention Milan's interest in Beckham

Tuttosport says Gilardino is getting closer to Juve but Trezeguet or any other Juve player isn't included in this potential deal. Milan wants money only and this is where the problem lies because Milan wants no less than the 24m they payed for him.

Tony29.
04-06-2007, 10:02
http://www.ontheminute.com/news/news.php?news=5986

:)

RobyKikic
04-06-2007, 10:04
OUCH! that gotta hurt. :5inter:

mrki
04-06-2007, 10:11
hehehehe!!! Pure Inter stuff....

About Gila's transfer I havent decided yet. I wouldnt like to see him in Juve except for Gigi or Chiellini.

remote2book
04-06-2007, 10:36
ok..now it seems like byren will also sign frank ribery...another person i was hoping we would make an attempt for..we been stuck in this gila thing the whole time we need to make some sort of move!!

GilAttack [11]
04-06-2007, 10:44
Also, according to this same newspaper, the 3 Brazilians : Emerson, Edmilson and Thiago Motta are the main candidates to strenghten Milan's midfield.



What a joke...

Tony29.
04-06-2007, 11:09
Not that it matters much to Milan fans, but Juventus has just signed Claudio Ranieri as their new coach.
If someone thinks Juve made a good deal, i can only tell you that this 56 years old coach, who's a football manager for exactly 20 years, never won a championship in his career. The only trophies he won were some Coppa's.
Ok, he maybe introduced some stars to the world ( Mendieta, Zola, Lampard, Gallas etc) and everybody knows he has the nose for a talent...but he's not a winner.

It's definitely Milan vs Inter next year in serie A. Juve has no chances with Ranieri.
I wish him all the best nevertheless :)

zlatanov
04-06-2007, 11:59
surprising choice for Juve, not counting all the rumours of the past week, but I think with DD gone and lippi not willing to come back to coaching just yet, Ranieri was probably the best and safest choice for new coach as he has loads of experience and his teams have always played good football although never really winning anything ... still, it has to be remembered that he had always coached teams that were never really among the true favourites to win a title and actually were never even expected to do as well as they would end up performing under Ranieri, so that image of him being a loser is a bit too harsh and unfounded, I think.

I think he was a better choice than Viali, Novellino or whatever other unproven coach Juve were after, especially in such a delicate for Juve moment when an experienced hand is probably a must ... and Ranieri knows Italy and Serie A like no other plus his football philosophy suits Juve well, IMO as his teams, especially Valencia and Chelski, always aimed at having a tsrong defense and mid and then taking the opponent on the counter.

I personally would have liked to see how Wenger or someone like Koeman does at juve and Italy but then again they are foreigners completely unfamiliar with Italian football culture and their style of play is quite dif than what juve has been promoting recently and probably don't have the players to suit a more open style of play.

Ghost
04-06-2007, 12:30
For me personally after DD left they should of gone for Lippi but as Zlat has said Lippi didnt want to return to coaching just yet! So the only options that were available were Sven, Ranieri & Houllier, I dont think many people like Sven, Ranieri for me wasnt the best option as I think Houllier is what they should of gone for.

zlatanov
04-06-2007, 12:40
I would guess juve wanted above all a coach who is familiar with Italy and Serie A football as now when Juve are building a new team from scratch they would probably need that more than ever ... not exactly the time to make experiments, so to speak.

that's why I would think that Houllier was never really a real target for them although he has done pretty well at Pool and then Lyon in more recent years.
Houllier was not the only "interesting" option out there but again the lack of experience with Italian football probably weighed against a good number of caches, including Houllier.

hitmannq8
04-06-2007, 12:53
I thought Juve would let go if Deschamps cuz he is pretty bad, but RANIERI?? he is even worse! this is a big step backwards by Juve IMO. I think he will be sacked mid-season.

curry chicken
04-06-2007, 13:28
Is there something in the German water that's got players gravitating towards Bayern? First Tonigol and now Ribery...

Sheva to Inter...This the reason I don't read the Mercato thread very often, it's not good for my mental health.

Nalx
04-06-2007, 13:35
I thought Juve would let go if Deschamps cuz he is pretty bad, but RANIERI?? he is even worse! this is a big step backwards by Juve IMO. I think he will be sacked mid-season.

well, wouldn't that be good for us?

Nalx
04-06-2007, 13:43
i have a feeling, if Beckhams deal to LA galaxy goes to pot he will sign for us this summer!
Beckham # 7 jersey will make much more money than RO's :grinser:

jtelly
04-06-2007, 17:37
So Henry is our big target? Interesting...if he can get back some of his pace I think he can do well in a withdrawn role, making some rounds from the outside towards goal. Of course, there's the other question-how old is he??! Things are moving ahead, it seems!

mzk57
05-06-2007, 03:41
agreed. Besides, he's one of the ugliest players around, so our member mzk definitly thinks like us :D
Well I don't think like that abt Frank Ribbery :)
I would have prefared to see him AC Milan. He is atleast better than Cesc Febraggas of Cristiano Ronaldo :bri: But since Bayern is also one of the teams I like to see playing (ofcourse after ACM) so I don't mind him signning for them. It would be good 2 see him playing in Bayern. Thank God he hasn't signed for teams like Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal, Madrid and Barca ;)

rosoneri_11
05-06-2007, 05:51
Bad news! Bayern Munchen signed Frank Ribery for 25M euros!
We are losing again big players!I can't imagine whoes next?

mrki
05-06-2007, 05:55
Kaka' had an interwiew today in Gazzetta sa I'll sum it up:
- He will not leave Milan for Real, not for now. ( for now?)
- He says him and Carlo have decided to go for all next season, and win scudetto, CL, intercontinental and european super cup
- thinks Emerson is a great player and could do well in Milan like he did in Juve
- wants Sheva back, but also likes Eto'o
- Ronaldinho will not come to Milan

Jeff
05-06-2007, 06:26
Bad news! Bayern Munchen signed Frank Ribery for 25M euros!
We are losing again big players!I can't imagine whoes next?

I think Ribery is overrated.

Ghost
05-06-2007, 06:57
I think Ribery is overrated.

Dont we all

mrki
05-06-2007, 06:59
Dont we all

......NO! :)

Hasan Rossonero
05-06-2007, 08:22
Kaka' had an interwiew today in Gazzetta sa I'll sum it up:
- He will not leave Milan for Real, not for now. ( for now?)
- He says him and Carlo have decided to go for all next season, and win scudetto, CL, intercontinental and european super cup
- thinks Emerson is a great player and could do well in Milan like he did in Juve
- wants Sheva back, but also likes Eto'o
- Ronaldinho will not come to Milan

He specifically said, which I think is the most important part of the interview, that he and Ancelotti have committed to Milan until 2011. This was very clear. So of course Real can forget about him for NOW. Beyond this, I don't know what Kaka can do. Only local players pledge their future to a club unreservedly.

Full interview here:

DORTMUND (Ger), 5 giugno 2007 - Il Pallone d'oro è un'immagine che riaffiora dal passato. “Come potrei dimenticare? 2002, Ronaldo che alza il trofeo durante la festa per il centenario del Real Madrid. Io c'ero. Un'emozione che non riesco a raccontare a parole”. Kakà chiude gli occhi. Quasi a voler trattenere quei fotogrammi. Il fuoriclasse brasiliano sospira. E si scioglie in un sorriso. Sono passati cinque anni da quel momento. Ora è lui a un passo dal trofeo che incorona i campioni. “Non avrei mai pensato di poter lottare così presto per il Pallone d'oro. Non ho ancora vinto. Però è bello sentire tanti grandi personaggi del calcio indicare il mio nome”.

Quali rivali deve ancora battere?
“Sicuramente Cristiano Ronaldo. Il portoghese ha trascinato il Manchester United alla conquista della Premier. Poi, c'è un rivale amico...”.

A chi si riferisce?
“A Maldini. E' incredibile che un campione come Paolo non abbia mai vinto questo trofeo”.

Voltiamo pagina: dal Pallone d'oro, ai prossimi traguardi sportivi.
“Il primo dei miei obiettivi è la coppa Intercontinentale. So benissimo che la Champions è più importante ma per un brasiliano l'Intercontinentale ha un fascino particolare. E' il mondiale per club”.

E lo scudetto?
“Milan e Inter saranno le squadre da battere. Una sfida alla pari. Stavolta non ci saranno punti di penalizzazione a rovinarci il campionato”.

Massimo Moratti ha detto che i giocatori dell'Inter non dimenticheranno gli sfottò rossoneri dopo la vittoria della Champions League ad Atene.
“Gli scherzi fanno parte del calcio. Vorrei farvi vedere le e-mail che mi arrivano dopo ogni sconfitta del Milan. Leggo, sorrido e cancello. Non ci saranno code polemiche nella prossima stagione. Il calcio non può smettere di sorridere”.

Ancelotti ha appena rinnovato il contratto.
“Ho parlato con il mister. Gli ho detto: "Abbiamo entrambi fino al 2011 per vincere tutto con il Milan". Ormai abbiamo scelto il nostro futuro”.

Quindi il Real Madrid può dimenticarsi Kakà.
“Oggi è così”.

Ancelotti vuole un attaccante.
“Spero in un ritorno di Sheva. Parlo spesso con lui. Purtroppo nel calcio ci sono delle regole. Non si può dire: "Ciao, me ne vado". Potesse, Sheva sarebbe già tornato al Milan. Ma ci sono dei problemi, purtroppo”.

L'alternativa è Eto’o.
“Un bravo attaccante. Non voglio fare paragoni. E' chiaro che Sheva non avrebbe difficoltà ad ambientarsi. Lui conosce ogni faccia del Milan”.

A proposito di Barcellona: come procede il corteggiamento a Ronaldinho?
“Rispetto a tre mesi fa ho fatto dei passi indietro. Penso che Ronaldinho resterà al Barcellona”.

Restiamo al capitolo attaccanti: Gilardino vorrebbe lasciare il Milan.
“Spero ci ripensi. Mi piace come giocatore e come uomo”.

Ronaldo, invece, promette una stagione da protagonista.
“Il suo arrivo è stato determinante per la rimonta in campionato. Ronaldo nella prossima stagione segnerà tanti gol. E' ancora un numero uno”.

Il Milan è pronto a operare acquisti importanti.
“Leggo che ad Ancelotti piace Emerson. Il mister ha ragione. E' un duro. Difende, marca, soffoca i centrocampisti avversari. Io ricordo bene l'Emerson della Juve. Era un colosso in mezzo al campo. Non deve trarre in inganno l'Emerson del Real”.

La Juve potrà lottare subito per lo scudetto?
“Perché no? Tra l'altro Buffon resta, vero? Buffon, Nedved e Del Piero sono un bel punto di partenza. Il campionato sarà più bello con la Juve. Certo, all'inizio avrà bisogno di strutturarsi. Juve, Roma e Lazio hanno qualcosa in meno rispetto alle due squadre milanesi proprio perché devono completare un progetto”.

Lei è diventato l'uomo dei sogni: vale 70-80 milioni di euro.
“E' bello. Ma ci sono altre cose più belle. La mia famiglia, la fede, la Bibbia, la religione, l'amicizia. Non perderò mai la testa davanti a certe cifre perché credo in valori più alti”.

Sua moglie Caroline è appassionata di calcio?
“Tifava per il San Paolo prima e per il Milan oggi. Ma non è un'esperta. Dovreste vedere quando prova a fare la formazione del Milan. L'unico giocatore al posto giusto è Dida. Poi, ci sono difensori trasformati in attaccanti, tipo Cafu e altre mosse tattiche che farebbero impazzire Ancelotti”.

A quando il primo figlio?
“Non nel 2007 visto che Caroline non è in stato interessante. Ma nel 2008...”.

Totti ha appena avuto il secondo bambino.
“Il capitano della Roma è una bella figura. In un mondo che ha quasi cancellato le bandiere ha scelto di legarsi a vita a una maglia. Lo ammiro”.

Il sogno extracalcio di Kakà.
“Quando chiuderò con il pallone creerò una fondazione per aiutare i bambini poveri brasiliani. Ne ho parlato anche con il presidente Lula. Per il momento aiuto le fondazioni già esistenti a cominciare da quella di Leonardo”.

E il sogno calcistico?
“Un gol da metà campo. Esagero?”.

Mystik
05-06-2007, 09:45
Here's that piece on the official site:

KAKA': 'Ancelotti and me have decided our future'
6/5/2007

DORTMUND - Speaking from Germany where he is preparing to play for Brazil against Turkey, Ricky Kakà has been talking about Carlo Ancelotti renewing his contract: 'I spoke to the coach. We have both decided to remain until 2011 to win everything with Milan. We have both decided our future.'

rosoneri_11
05-06-2007, 09:54
I think Ribery is overrated.
I think he is a great midfielder with great work rate and naturall fitnes.

Ghost
05-06-2007, 10:06
......NO! :)

What you still watching the two special games he played in over the world cup?

mrki
05-06-2007, 10:09
I watched him at MArseille, and he will show in Bayern that he is really s good player with skill, pace and vision. And high work reat as well. But it doesnt matter now, we have set our objectives somewhere else.

zlatanov
05-06-2007, 10:25
even if Ribery was a player of interest, there is now way Milan would have tried to match a fee of 25 mil for talented but unproven player like him ... and quite frankly, 25 mil is probably a good 5-10 mil above what his realistic value is at this point in time.
It's understandable, however, for Bayern to spend so much on him 'cuase with them out of CL, heavily overpaying is probably the best way to get their hands on a highly-touted player like Ribery.

Also, from what has been said by his agent, it seems that bayern were the only team to come forward and make a concrete offer for the player despite all the rumours of Milan, Real, Barca, Arsenal etc, etc being after him ... considering that Bayern and the Bundesliga have lost a lot of their charm to attract the best players in Europe, that probably also played a major role in his allegedly done, but not official yet, move to Bayern.

Not sure it was a smart move as moving away from Bayern will be close to impossible provided that he turns out to be the player they think they are buying i.e. the new Zidane ... and in that case I doubt Ribery himself would be thrilled for much longer to be playing in a league where the champion and the runner-up will be seeded in pot 3 of the CL draw this year.

drucurl
05-06-2007, 10:27
I heard that we will make an official approach for Eto'o - source...a fellow goal.com moderator :D
:guw:

zlatanov
05-06-2007, 10:35
I heard that we will make an official approach for Eto'o - source...a fellow goal.com moderator :D
:guw:
you mean this one:
http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jun5j.html
or this one:
http://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/SerieA/Squadre/Milan/Primo_Piano/2007/06_Giugno/05/ancesugila.shtml
or maybe even this one:
http://www.calciomercato.com/index.php?c=21&a=44938

thanks for sharing the secret though :grinser:

mrki
05-06-2007, 10:42
Galliani rerely talks about our transfer targets. Maybe this year Carlo will finally get the players he really wishes for.

kef
05-06-2007, 10:48
It is great news that we will make a bid for Eto'o. Maybe he is the player Ancelotti was referring to? He is a great striker, but I doubt if Barcelona will let him go.
Now we will have to wait untill la liga ends and then we will know more. We will then know also more about our other objectives like Emerson, Edmilson, Zambrotta, Ronaldinho... who also play in la Liga.
I believe Galliani when he says that they aren't in a hurry, because that's their threadmark really. But I don't believe that they will not buy any player. I am almost 100% sure that a striker and a midfielder will arrive and that's the only thing we really need. If Galliani and co manage to buy a great striker and midfielder, it wil once again be an excample of efficient buying.

Warro Bantan
05-06-2007, 10:53
The thing is mrki, that Milan are "all of a sudden" one of the more attractive clubs for players...no point penalty in the league, qualified for the UCL, and defending champs to boot...and the last club to win it back to back...

The coach remains, the ownership structure is solid...huge fan base...whats not to like about Milan for a star?

I dont think we will have any real trouble in getting quality players, even if the Ronaldinho saga looks to end without us getting him, especially now that Galliani has come out in public to say we are interested in Etoo...

So, in essence, we are poised to make two important additions to a squad that is already immensely talented, and proven winners...not a bad place to be in at all....very very very different from last year!

Dave
05-06-2007, 10:53
Galliani rerely talks about our transfer targets. Maybe this year Carlo will finally get the players he really wishes for.
I Hope so!!!

mrki
05-06-2007, 11:02
Or, imagine this, if we buy Eto'o and Sheva! Both. And then sell Oliveira and Gila wherever and play with Ronaldo-Sheva-Eto'o rotation. This is not realistic I know, but could be fun :)

Only one question, dont you people think we need another one fast midfielder? We dont have any fast players except Kaka'. And if, is some horrible case, KAka' gets injured, we will have noone to change our rythm.

Ghost
05-06-2007, 11:05
I watched him at MArseille, and he will show in Bayern that he is really s good player with skill, pace and vision. And high work reat as well. But it doesnt matter now, we have set our objectives somewhere else.

Im sorry but paying 25Mill for an unproven player who played in france(lol) is probably the biggest joke of the year, YES! there are some players who adapt to their new surroundings like Essein & Drogba but they play in the EPL. What about if we payed that much for a player who turned out to be a flop? I dont think that deal will go through as Ribery WANTED to play for a club which was in the CL and if he does decide to join that club then good for him.

Personally, I think Ribery is way overrated and too expensive he had one good world cup and his price shot up. Now you tell me 'IF' we went for Ribery before last years world cup how much would he of cost us? I can guarantee you that they would of sold him for 15 mill, only reason he is so expensive is because of the world cup and the number of teams that were after him e.g Real, Chelsea, Arsenal, Man United etc.

Tony29.
05-06-2007, 11:14
I wonder why Galliani says the main objectives are an attacker and midfielder ( i bet my right hand the midfielder is not a Kaka type but it's Emerson :) ) . Why not a defender ?
Looks like he trusts Kaladze and Bonera a lot.

As for Kaka.... what he said doesn't mean he'll certanly leave after 2011, but it also doesn't mean he'll certanly stay until 2011. Imo, what he said is only a guarantee he'll certanly be in Milan next season.
What i didn't like about his interview is how he says Inter and Milan are the teams who'll be fighting for lo scudetto.
I understand why he underrated Juve's or Viola's chances. I would have done the same thing. But why didn't he put Roma in the race ? The team that Milan didn't manage to beat on 4 matches this season and a team that gave a football leasson to Milan on at least 2 of these 4 matches.
I, just like Kaka, doubt Roma will fight for the scudetto. Roma's not a consistant team. They have a great year, then a bad one, then another good year, then an awful one. But if i was a Milan, or an Inter player (6:2 :haha: ) i wouldn't go public and say it's going to be Milan vs Inter only.

Tony29.
05-06-2007, 11:19
Im sorry but paying 25Mill for an unproven player who played in france(lol) is probably the biggest joke of the year, YES! there are some players who adapt to their new surroundings like Essein & Drogba but they play in the EPL. What about if we payed that much for a player who turned out to be a flop? I dont think that deal will go through as Ribery WANTED to play for a club which was in the CL and if he does decide to join that club then good for him.

Personally, I think Ribery is way overrated and too expensive he had one good world cup and his price shot up. Now you tell me 'IF' we went for Ribery before last years world cup how much would he of cost us? I can guarantee you that they would of sold him for 15 mill, only reason he is so expensive is because of the world cup and the number of teams that were after him e.g Real, Chelsea, Arsenal, Man United etc.
Ribery is still unproven, but the way he played for France during and AFTER the world cup, and the way he led Marselle to CL makes others think how he may be as succesful as other players comming from French league were in last 10 years.
Zidane from Bordaux and French NT, Henry and Trezeguet from Monaco and French NT, Pires from Marselle and French NT, Drogba and Essien comming from french teams.

This is what made his price so high. I expect him to be a success though, but i agree 25m Euro is too much at this point.

kef
05-06-2007, 11:19
Only one question, dont you people think we need another one fast midfielder? We dont have any fast players except Kaka'. And if, is some horrible case, KAka' gets injured, we will have noone to change our rythm.

Seedorf and Gourcuff can play in Kaka' 's possition. They aren't as fast as he is, but then we only will need to change our style of play a little. Plus when we buy a substitute for Kaka', it would be to sit on the bench for most of the time, so it will not be a quality player if we do get a substitute.
But as I said we allready have Gourcuff and Seedorf, so we don't need another fast midfielder.

zlatanov
05-06-2007, 11:27
http://www.calciomercato.com/index.php?c=12&a=44979

looks like a confirmation of those rumours about Carlos Eduardo. The player is quoted saying that Milan and Barca have both made an offer but Milan's is the higher (rumoured to be ~13mil) ... but Gremio is hoping for even more, close to 20 mil allegedly.

does anyone know anything about this kid?
He is a no one to me and considering that we got a player like Kaka - back then he was still a big name in Brazil - for 8-9 mil, I don't see Milan offering anything close to 13mil for this guy unless he is the second coming of Kaka or Robinho or whoever.

zlatanov
05-06-2007, 11:31
Only one question, dont you people think we need another one fast midfielder? We dont have any fast players except Kaka'. And if, is some horrible case, KAka' gets injured, we will have noone to change our rythm.
that's exactly why I hope Milan goes for someone like Keita or even a 33 yo Ze Roberto or a similar type of player ... especially if we don't get Dinho, which seems less and less likely as the days go by.

true seedorf and Gorky can play behind the strikers but some speed in midfield from a player other than Kaka won't hurt us either ... and it's not said that we hae to spend a fortune on such an alternative.

Arildonardo
05-06-2007, 11:37
I'd say: Give us Diego! He's exactly the kind of player we need in midfield.

Mystik
05-06-2007, 11:57
And I'd say: Diego will NOT accept the bench. The best place for Diego in Italy is Juve. As long as he doesn't have any great games against us I'll be fine with that :D

icculus
05-06-2007, 12:00
http://www.calciomercato.com/index.php?c=12&a=44979

looks like a confirmation of those rumours about Carlos Eduardo. The player is quoted saying that Milan and Barca have both made an offer but Milan's is the higher (rumoured to be ~13mil) ... but Gremio is hoping for even more, close to 20 mil allegedly.

does anyone know anything about this kid?
He is a no one to me and considering that we got a player like Kaka - back then he was still a big name in Brazil - for 8-9 mil, I don't see Milan offering anything close to 13mil for this guy unless he is the second coming of Kaka or Robinho or whoever.

got this from wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Eduardo_Ferrari
Carlos Eduardo Ferrari is a Brazilian attacker currently playing for Aris FC. He is considered an expirienced player since he has played for many European clubs such as Rangers F.C., UD Salamanca, etc.
Carlos Eduardo Ferrari
Personal information
Date of birth February 19, 1979 (1979-02-19) (age 28)
Place of birth Parana, Brasil
Height 187 cm
Playing position Attacker
Club information
Current club Aris Thessaloniki

icculus
05-06-2007, 12:10
i would love to see eto in a milan jersey... what great pace, can go at defenders... is unselfish (as far as strikers go).

i think:
.....kaka....
ronaldo
...........eto
should strike fear in the hearts of any defence.

drucurl
05-06-2007, 12:11
:wth: he's a 29 year old european flop :eekani:

zlatanov
05-06-2007, 12:26
hahaha ... the power of misinformation :p155: :grinser:

the Carlos Eduardo in question is 19 yo, playes for Gremio and has never been in Europe.
I think it was his name that was mentioned as the succesor of Anderson in Porto a day or two after it became official that ManU had scooped the youngster.

_MaJi_tz
05-06-2007, 14:01
Ambrosini: Gilardino Should Stay

The Milan midfielder backs the Italian striker's stay with the Rossoneri, despite the latest controversy which erupted following Gilardino's comments.

Alberto Gilardino has been demanding more space in the first eleven, something which Carlo Ancelotti cannot guarantee him. This has invariably led to the speculation that the former Parma striker is on his way out of Milan, something which Massimo Ambrosini hopes that will not occur.

"He is fine at Milan, he's young and has a great potential," declared the Italian international player. "It's logical that he looks at the future. Ancelotti surely cannot guarantee the place to anyone."

With regards to the incoming transfer market, Ambrosini is certain about the arrival of two players.
"Milan will buy two other great players, one in attack and one in defence," confirmed Ambrosini, however he does not believe that Gigi Buffon will join the Rossoneri. "He would fit in really well in a group like ours, but I know that it would be a difficult operation."
Ambrosini has been linked to a move to Fiorentina in recent weeks.

"There's nothing tangible. Staying at Milan is my priority. It doesn't matter only where you are, but in what way you play in a team."

rosoneri_11
05-06-2007, 14:07
Carlos Eduardo? I know him very well.He is good for Greece but not enough to play for Milan.We don't need him even for the bench.

Hasan Rossonero
05-06-2007, 16:08
you mean this one:
http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jun5j.html
or this one:
http://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/SerieA/Squadre/Milan/Primo_Piano/2007/06_Giugno/05/ancesugila.shtml
or maybe even this one:
http://www.calciomercato.com/index.php?c=21&a=44938

thanks for sharing the secret though :grinser:

I believe one of the main motivations for Eto'o to move, and one I can't believe that hasn't been discussed yet, is the fact that the player is constantly subject to monkey noises.

I'm not saying this does not happen in Italy, but the Spanish have taken it to a new low. They make Lazio fans look like hippies.

Stitch
05-06-2007, 17:47
Eto'o would be great for us. I'm just worried that we are not connected with any defenders (and Gali & Carlo don't mention anything about a new one). I think the need for a good younger defender (someone like Terry) in our squad is much much more pressing than, say, midfielder. We already have the best midfield in the world !

Snapster
06-06-2007, 03:18
Eto'o would be great for us. I'm just worried that we are not connected with any defenders (and Gali & Carlo don't mention anything about a new one). I think the need for a good younger defender (someone like Terry) in our squad is much much more pressing than, say, midfielder. We already have the best midfield in the world !

Eto would probably be my preferred choice to bring in up front at the moment.

Whilst we do have a great midfield we do need one more player to freshen things up and to give an option to rest players. Gorky has progressed well and long as he stays on track can become a good player for us. I think some more speed and energy in midfield would be welcome to give us a change in pace when needed. An Essien type player maybe (not Sissoko please!).

We do need another defender that's much is obvious. Billy retiring and Maldini on the final stretch leaves us short if we get an injury. I'm positive this will be rectified in the summer.

Stitch
06-06-2007, 04:45
I'm not saying another midfielder wouldn't be wellcome, we just need a defender more. My two wishes are Eto'o and Chivu (Merda is getting him though :( ), with RO & Billy gone, Gila stays, and maybe Donati for a midfeld addition...that would be a good mercato for us.

Karim
06-06-2007, 09:06
To me, Milan are just hoping for the impossible this summer, talking realy big, but most of the time they do this, they never get what they want, BUT Milan have always talked big and got small guys who became big later on and that's what makes Milan Milan, their transfers which most of the time is high class.


But to me Milan have been talking much about the attack, when the seriuos transfers should be on what I have already said before:

- 1-3 good defenders, one of them at least is a proper LB.
- 1-2 good midfielders, one a CM and another one who is preferably versetile but is either a DM or OM.
- 1 Goalscoring attacker, 2 if Gila moves.



Regarding Inter, well hopefully Chivu is sealed, and Suazo's pros become solved and I think we just need one ro two CMs and/or an OM, and a replacement for Figoi who will retire in one or two years time and oh you are not the only ones linked with the duck
http://www.goal.com/it/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=320838

rosoneri_11
07-06-2007, 02:27
After loosing Ribery i think Nasri is the a great player for us.He isn't even 20 and he is doing great things.Did anyone saw yesterday his performance with France?He was great!We mustn't loose him.

jtelly
07-06-2007, 17:32
Now Eto'o makes me excited! A real runner, lot of pace. Not the best natural finisher but I think with Kaka making defence-splitting passes, he'll be a-ok.
So it seems to be heating up everywhere in the transfer world except with us-are our only targets in la liga, or can we start bolstering our defence and midfield?
After watching the last 2 brazil matches, i have to say i hope that edmilson just stays where he is.

Graeme C
07-06-2007, 18:15
im starting to warm to Quagliarella, we could do with a striker who can also player in the supportive role aswell as a winger..

zlatanov
07-06-2007, 18:41
im starting to warm to Quagliarella, we could do with a striker who can also player in the supportive role aswell as a winger..
I have been hoping for this to happen for some time now ... it would be expensive to get Quagliarella now as his price has gone up at least 1.5-2 times after that last game but he isn't the only option out there (Keita is similar type of player and won't be overly expensive either).

anyways, maybe we could use Boriello or Pozzi or Donatti (the last two on loan) to reduce the cash Q. wouls cost now ... problem is, half of his rights are owned by Udinese and the other half by Samp and that makes it a tricky deal to go after.

remote2book
07-06-2007, 20:43
ETO'O would be awsome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but i just read wat Henry said......he would be good too considering he is another playmaker and will take alot of preassure ooff kaka it would be amazing......but sounds too good to be true..but eto'o i really hope we get..

Hasan Rossonero
07-06-2007, 20:50
I have been hoping for this to happen for some time now ... it would be expensive to get Quagliarella now as his price has gone up at least 1.5-2 times after that last game but he isn't the only option out there (Keita is similar type of player and won't be overly expensive either).

anyways, maybe we could use Boriello or Pozzi or Donatti (the last two on loan) to reduce the cash Q. wouls cost now ... problem is, half of his rights are owned by Udinese and the other half by Samp and that makes it a tricky deal to go after.
Quag would be a perfect addition especially because Milan hold versatile players in high regard.

I don't know if we will move for him, but we really should. He was sheer class yesterday, but he has also been much the same this season.

otoniel
07-06-2007, 22:51
i doubt etoo will leave barca
http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jun7g.html

but henry says he likes milan
http://www.goal.com/en/articolo.aspx?contenutoid=323037

SkyEdge
07-06-2007, 22:58
My 2 cents for this summer:

I really hope that People ( Fans !! ) will stop asking for 20-25yr old
signings ( Samir Nasri? wTf? ) and whine if we sign 30+ yr olds again.
We should all start to think and looks at facts as they are. We are the
MOST CONSISTENT team in Europe this decade and the players we had
and have signed have contributed to this FACT. Yes it would be great
to get youngsters but its not the end of the world if we don't.

Players will always love to come to a team like Milan no matter what the
age and what club they are at as we are a club With Traditions that is
prolly only 2nd to Real Madrid ( Due to their 9 Euro Triumphs ) but seeing
things as they are NOW, We are The BEST in Europe this year ( undoubtedly )
and have been THE MOST CONSISTENT TEAM IN EUROPE this DECADE.

Case in point: we are not making END-OF-THE-WORLD mistakes coz we won't
be where we are if we did. End of Story. FullStop.
I wouldn't complain or whine if so-and-so signs for this team or that but its always thats how it has always been :D

Graeme C
08-06-2007, 03:28
rumours this morning of tiago again!

Milan, il centrocampista arriva da Lione?
08.06.2007 07.54 di Appi . articolo letto 2113 volte
Fonte: di Christian Recalcati per ilreca.it
Il nuovo obiettivo rossonero è portoghese. Tiago Cardoso Mendes, ventisei anni, centrocampista del Lione, sarebbe stato avvicinato dalla dirigenza di via Turati.Il club francese valuta il giocatore diciotto milioni di euro. Carlo Ancelotti avrebbe dato il suo benestare, ma pare che l’allenatore campione d’Italia avrebbe espresso parere più favorevole per il brasiliano Emerson. Nei prossimi giorni si deciderà se entrambi giocheranno nel Milan o se solo uno dei due sarà il prescelto

rosoneri_11
08-06-2007, 03:31
1 great striker Eto or Henry + Nasri who is a great talent (he is 19!)+1 RB or LB and we will be fine.

Graeme C
08-06-2007, 03:42
I have been hoping for this to happen for some time now ... it would be expensive to get Quagliarella now as his price has gone up at least 1.5-2 times after that last game but he isn't the only option out there (Keita is similar type of player and won't be overly expensive either).

anyways, maybe we could use Boriello or Pozzi or Donatti (the last two on loan) to reduce the cash Q. wouls cost now ... problem is, half of his rights are owned by Udinese and the other half by Samp and that makes it a tricky deal to go after.

yeah i would use Borriello, even maybe brocchi in the deal to sampdoria? i am trying to work out how much he is worth, i mean hes not 24 mill like Gilardino but..

hitmannq8
08-06-2007, 04:41
News sites are all reporting the quote Henry said "I am pleased that Milan are interested me".. im goin to bed now, by the time i wake up im sure some sites will say "Henry dreams of Milan" or "Henry invites Milan offer".. im pretty sure for the next few weeks we will be seeing people putting Henry in their fantasy teams for Milan next year..

mrki
08-06-2007, 04:57
Calciomercato says Emerson will be in Milanello on 18.06. for a medical. So, that is probably our defensive player Ambro is talking about. For a forward, I dont know , but I hope we get some of Eto'o - Herny - Pato.

I still claime Zambrotta would be our best possible transfer, still have my hopes for him :) !

Kaka1899
08-06-2007, 05:07
Sourcehttp://www.goal.com/en/articolo.aspx?contenutoid=323037

Henry Invites Milan Offer

Thierry Henry's future at Arsenal has never been so insecure as the Frenchman openly expressed his delight at being targeted by AC Milan.


The European Champions have confirmed their intent to make an offer for Henry, who is also interested Barcelona and apparently Liverpool and it seems that the star striker is keen on the prospect of returning to Italy where he failed to make a success with Juventus.

Henry's only attempts to reassure Arsenal was to stress that he is still their player, but the ususal passionate pledges to star at the club were not to be seen as he expressed his sadness at the loss of former director David Dein, who left the club in April.

Thierry Henry yesterday added to the feeling of uncertainty at Arsenal by admitting that interest in his services from Milan was flattering and said he was "devastated" that David Dein, the former vice-chairman, left the club.

"It's great to hear [the Milan interest]," Henry said. "How can you not think that? On the other side as I said many times at the moment, I'm an Arsenal player.

"A lot of stuff happened at the club recently that wasn't supposed to happen. In terms of the departure of Mr Dein, the bosses have been unsettled and a lot of players have been unsettled. So the only thing I can tell you is right now I'm an Arsenal player but hearing that is nice, I can't deny it."

Regarding Dein, Henry added in an interview with Soccernet: "I was devastated [when he left]. Everybody who knows Mr Dein, knows he loves football. He knew everybody at the stadium, whether you play for the youth team or you clean the dressing room.

"He used to turn up if it was raining, snowing, windy, to watch the Under-17s, the Under-19s, the reserves - everybody - on his own at the training ground and one person that I wouldn't have liked to leave the board, would have been Mr Dein. Arsène [Wenger] and Mr Dein - although no one is bigger than the club - are really close to being Arsenal.

"But I would like to say that whatever happened, Mr Dein leaving wasn't a clever move. But it's out of my hands, I'm not up there. I don't know what happened, and I don't want to know what happened."

Arsenal's other superstar Cesc Fabregas has also spoken of how unsettled he is in an interview this week as it seem Arsenal are set for a long and hard summer.


I hope this isnt some more rumour mill stuff. i would love to see Henry in Milan colours

zlatanov
08-06-2007, 06:48
yeah i would use Borriello, even maybe brocchi in the deal to sampdoria? i am trying to work out how much he is worth, i mean hes not 24 mill like Gilardino but..
Udinese are ready to sell their half for 10 mil ... only :rolleyes:
but I think they would be happy with 7-8 mil too, which would make Q.'s price somewhere around 15 mil, which seems like a fair price at this momentin time whith him being all the talk in Italy.
Brocchi seems to be headed towards Torino but maybe Simic could be tempted at moving to either Samp or Udinese.

zlatanov
08-06-2007, 07:00
http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/index.php?action=read&id=61914

a link to the Tiago-to-Milan rumour that was mentioned above

rosoneri_11
08-06-2007, 07:20
I beg Carlo,Gali and Silvio to sign Nasri!He is great,he is 19,he plays for NT of France and he is the best 19'old in France.
That kid is a great player!We really need him.

Ghost
08-06-2007, 07:33
Id love to see Henry at Milan, imagine R9 & TH14 OR whatever number he decides to take.

I have always preferred Henry over Eto, I know there is an age factor but to me I dont think Eto would be that good without R10. Henry on the other hand makes chances and provides the whole team. Please Silvio go for Henry, Dont let Barca take him.

Graeme C
08-06-2007, 07:34
channel 4 report that emerson has told cafu he will be playing at Milan next season. Rumours are that Milan have offered Oliviera as exchange.

i would be happy with tiago and Emerson for next season :)

zlatanov
08-06-2007, 07:52
i would be happy with tiago and Emerson for next season :)
I just checked the Oxford dict. - for a definition of "modest" they had "Graeme C", short and simple :grinser:

Ghost
08-06-2007, 07:56
I know you can call me weird but look at the following:

Henry & Shevchenko
More or less around the same age,
Both have similiar skills,
Both signed to clubs which made them (Arsenal & Milan)
Both had doubts last season, one stayed the other left,

One more thing, do people remember this article a few months back???

Thierry Henry admits he is consumed by what kind of legacy he will leave behind him in football, with the striker aiming to be for Arsenal what Paolo Maldini is to Milan.

The Gunners captain signalled his intention to see out his final playing days in North London when he turned down Barcelona in May, and now has his sights trained on further cementing his place in the Arsenal history books.

Henry is already the club's all-time record goalscorer having overtaken Ian Wright last season and has accumulated three FA Cups and two Premiership titles since arriving from Juventus in 1999.

However the inspirational figure is determined to lead the side to further triumphs, and become as synonymous with the North London club as one-club Milan legend Maldini is with the Rossoneri after 22 years of service.

"How I am thought of when my career ends is very important to me," Henry told the News of the World.

"I would like to be seen as a Paolo Maldini type of player so that when people speak about Arsenal, they speak of me.

""It's something I feel strongly about. Titles and trophies can be won and they stay with you but loyalty remains even longer."

------------------------

A bit like Dejavu if you ask me, we have all heard these words before lets just hope it works in our favour this time.

Tony29.
08-06-2007, 10:20
Mexes extended his contract with Roma. Chivu seems close to Inter. Looks like none of the two will be Madini's heir in Milan.
John Terry is more than hard to get and nott many top class CD's who deserve to play for Milan are left.

You think Carlo will continue with the guys he has (Maldini,Nesta, Bonera, Kaladze) ? Because i can't see someone good enough to join Milan this summer and take over Maldini, but on the other hand we know Maldini can't play every match while Nesta is getting injured a lot lately.
Wonder what will Zlat's avatar pull out now :rolleyes:

Yay, at least Milan has defenders. Juve has only Boumsong and Legrottagllie :grinser:

zlatanov
08-06-2007, 10:33
Mexes extended his contract with Roma. Chivu seems close to Inter. Looks like none of the two will be Madini's heir in Milan.
John Terry is more than hard to get and nott many top class CD's who deserve to play for Milan are left.

You think Carlo will continue with the guys he has (Maldini,Nesta, Bonera, Kaladze) ? Because i can't see someone good enough to join Milan this summer and take over Maldini, but on the other hand we know Maldini can't play every match while Nesta is getting injured a lot lately.
Wonder what will Zlat's avatar pull out now :rolleyes:

Yay, at least Milan has defenders. Juve has only Boumsong and Legrottagllie :grinser:
"Alex, Zapata, Cris ... or why not just hijack the Chivu deal in the last moment" ... Zlat's avatar is thinking :grinser:

I don't think Mexes is out of reach ... it's just that whoever wants him now will have to pay sweet(-er) money to get him considering that his new deal would bring him 2.5 mil/season which is what Chivu is running away from ... plus, it's Roma we are talking about after all.

On the other hand, if Chivu goes to Inert, then Milan and Juve can almost surely forget about him, even if he underperforms there, 'cause I doubt Massimo the clown will risk to again become the laughing stock of Italy like in that Cannavaro deal he masterminded 3-4 years ago :rolleyes: ... or the numerous deals with his beloved neighbours :diablo:

mrki
08-06-2007, 10:41
Maybe we can still get Alex from PSV-Chelsky.... The summer is long...

zlatanov
08-06-2007, 10:48
I would expect that Terry's contract will soon be prolonged and "properly inflated" and he will stay with them as will Lampard.

with Carvalho and Terry (the one who is similar in characteristics with Alex) there to stay and having JM's full confidence, and the rumours that JM isn't exactly in love with Alex, I don't see the brazilian being anything more than a back-up, if that in the end ... hardly the scenario Alex is gunning for.

remote2book
08-06-2007, 12:32
ok well looks like Miroslve Klose has signed with byren also...wat da heck is wrong with byren....Toni....Ribery...now klose..i kno its not always da case when you buy alot of stars and expect to be successfull...but still that is a alot of power for byren....i would have liked to see klose at milan...young talented ..hes much like ribery he impressed alot during the world with the german international team..but not too good in domestic

zlatanov
08-06-2007, 12:37
klose is 29, or soon to be ... not that old for a player but not exactly a young talent either
he is a good player but when players change championships, especially when coming to serie A, there is always the risk that they won't be able to fit in.

good transfer campaign by Bayern, a bit too late though.

remote2book
08-06-2007, 12:42
thats true zlat....switching to another league is hard..as we have seen through RO....but i dont know i guess i just want a big name striker to come to milan this milan and hopefully

zlatanov
08-06-2007, 13:03
from the sound of the rumours flying around, we are aiming higher, much higher than Klose ... at least namewise ... the problem is that we run the risk of paying a fortune for someone, who may easily end up not adjusting to Italy.

sometimes I think instead of paying something like 40+ mil for Etoo, we'd be better off getting someone like Quagliarella or Keita - players who can play attacking mid and support striker - and keep the players we currently have up front with possibly a proven striker like Trez coming in for Gila should he end up leaving ... we shouldn't forget that Ronaldo is gonna be available for CL too this year, unlike last season.

I still believe that RO could turn the coin around in his favour this season and show what he can really do as I doubt we've seen even half of what he is capable of ... the summer training could do him well both from physical and psychological point of view - he needs more confidence, relax and stop trying too hard and I think he might turn out to be like a "new" signing for Milan.

Tony29.
08-06-2007, 13:14
Bayern is one of the reachest teams in the world. They can buy top class every single year.
But they have some strange policy to create players or rely on home based (in Germany) players. They rarely spend huge ammounts on transfers.... once in 5 years at most.

I don't know where did i read it, but i know i read how Bayern are capable of spending ~40m Euro on transfers every single year. Dunno why they don't do so concidering they are far from Europe's best since the time they won CL 6 years ago.

Toni (Makaay) - Klose (Podolski)
------- Ribery---------

This looks promising, but as Zlat said...it's too late. If they splashed the money in last 2-3 transfer markets and if they added Toni-Klose-Ribery this summer, then not only they'd have played CL next season but they would have been one of the hottest favourites to win it.

ACMILAN1983
08-06-2007, 13:46
Yay, at least Milan has defenders. Juve has only Boumsong and Legrottagllie :grinser:

And the legend Zebina!!! unfortunately it looks like Buffon is definately staying put though :(

I think Milan's policy/plan for next season is taking a clear shape now. Henry and Ronaldinho more than Eto'o make sense to me, as we'll then have a goalscorer up front (probably R99), a supporting forward who can drift wide (Dinho/Henry) and Kaka playing further deeper to support.

However, the key factor about all of the forwards mentioned is that they're all able to drop out and play on the left. This might be hugely important in CL matches and bigger matches, as we will need to have players making the extra man in midfield. We already know Seedorf can't play too many games now, so I think he'll be prepared to play less. We also now know Ambro's slot in the team is massive in the big games where we need to tighten up, so Emerson (with Thiago, Edmilson and today Gilberto Silva, who I can't imagine coming but would love) being linked is a very important move, considering Ambro is injury prone and we lack depth here.

Personally, I like the look of Henry best of the attackers linked, as I feel his overall quality and experience will be great, and I think he'd work best with Kaka of the 3.

Essentially, for the average Serie A game, I guess we'll look to play two forwards, and Ambro's slot will be sacrificed for a more attacking option as most smaller sides sit back. Something like...

-----------------------Dida-------------------------
Oddo ------Nesta---------Maldini/Bonera/?----Janku--
-----Rino/Ambro/Puma--Pirlo--Seedorf/Gourcuff-------
--------------------Kaka/Seedorf/Gourcuff-----------
---------------------------------Henry--------------
-----------------R99--------------------------------

However, then for the bigger games, where we'll need the extra protection, we can either ask for Henry (or whoever) to drop deeper onto the left playing deeper with Kaka with one or the other going to support the striker when attacking and one or the other defending the left side defensively. Ambro/Puma can also be brought into these games in their role to tighten the midfield and add more physical presence. So something like...

-------------------------Dida-------------------------
Oddo------Nesta-------------Maldini------------Janku-
---------------Rino-----------Ambro/Puma------------
----------------------Pirlo----------------------------
----------------Kaka----------------Henry/Seedorf----
-----------------------R99----------------------------

Seedorf can also be played in the withdrawn supporting role, in which situation Kaka stays further forward the whole time rather than alternating roles with another.

Another thing to note is the need for an attacking midfielder is reduced, as we can rely on Seedorf and Gourcuff to be Kaka's backup, as well as alternating in the deeper role when we're more attacking.

The only addition I'd really love then to add to the attacker (my preference is the Frenchman) and the defensive midfielder (Emerson is the most likely candidate, and one I'd welcome happily) is a leftback as I don't trust Janku there for all matches (Zambro remains the dream).

mrki
08-06-2007, 14:21
Gila takes Inzaghi advice Friday 8 June, 2007

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Alberto Gilardino reveals Pippo Inzaghi convinced him to stay at Milan after this week’s threats to walk out.

The former Parma striker had complained at the lack of faith shown in him by the club and demanded a regular spot in the starting XI, but today’s talk with officials cleared the air.


“I am very happy we had this meeting, as it was important to clarify the situation,” said Gilardino.


“I know this is an important side and want to stay here for as long as possible. That was my intention before and it is even more so now.”


However, he did reveal that there was some valuable advice given to him by one of the players challenging for that place upfront.


“I spoke to Pippo and he said some wonderful things. I also heard from other teammates who asked me to think carefully, but in truth I never had any doubts. The newspapers twisted my words, so I always wanted to stay at Milan.


“In fact, I had only given that interview to reassure the fans that I had not offered myself to any other club, let alone Inter.”


The competition for places in the Rossoneri forward line is already fierce with Inzaghi, Ronaldo and Ricardo Oliveira challenging, but Carlo Ancelotti has confirmed they are looking to bring in another world class striker.


The main target is Thierry Henry and today the Arsenal man noted he was pleased to hear of Milan’s interest.


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This is a good thing as we have Pippo who is 34 and Ronaldo who has, well... an old soul :) Gila may have not played his best football but he is young and italian, which is very important in Milan. I wish him well in thext years to come. Pippo the old "fox in the box" can teach him something. If nothing, how to dive better! :)
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And, on the formations above, maybe we'll see Carlos new formation, which he tried out at the Old Trafford in the last 10 minutes, the famous 4-6-0 ! :grinser: That is why we need Emerson
-----------------dida--------------------
---oddo----nesta-----maldini---marek--
----------emerson---pirlo--------
-gattuso---kaka'--ambro---seedorf------
--------------------------------------( the zero part) :devf:

zlatanov
08-06-2007, 16:40
Bayern is one of the reachest teams in the world. They can buy top class every single year.
But they have some strange policy to create players or rely on home based (in Germany) players. They rarely spend huge ammounts on transfers.... once in 5 years at most.

I don't know where did i read it, but i know i read how Bayern are capable of spending ~40m Euro on transfers every single year. Dunno why they don't do so concidering they are far from Europe's best since the time they won CL 6 years ago.

Toni (Makaay) - Klose (Podolski)
------- Ribery---------

This looks promising, but as Zlat said...it's too late. If they splashed the money in last 2-3 transfer markets and if they added Toni-Klose-Ribery this summer, then not only they'd have played CL next season but they would have been one of the hottest favourites to win it.
I think the reason for this is that Bayern do not have a rich owner - whether a person or a company - who would constantly pump money into the club but at the helm of the club is a board of directors, who either are or are responsible to the investors/shareholders and their main concern as such is that the profit into the shareholder's pockets is as big as possible ... of course a certain balance has to be maintained, read investments, to keep the club competitive.

As you said, Tony, Bayern is and has been for the past 10 years or so one of the most high-profitable clubs in football, on a number of occasions second only to ManU, but it is very uncharacteristic of them to spend big on players and that's why they mostly invest into home talent and rarely get their hands on any big-name players outside of Germany.
Actually, I think Ribery (25 mil) is their most expensive transfer ever, isn't he? With Makaay's tranfer (18 mil) of 4 or so years ago coming in 2nd place ... compared to other big clubs, that's peanuts really.

Come to think of it, it's no short of a miracle how consistent and successful Bayern has been in Europe over the past decade given their frugal transfer policy.

Hasan Rossonero
08-06-2007, 16:52
And the legend Zebina!!! unfortunately it looks like Buffon is definately staying put though :(

I think Milan's policy/plan for next season is taking a clear shape now. Henry and Ronaldinho more than Eto'o make sense to me, as we'll then have a goalscorer up front (probably R99), a supporting forward who can drift wide (Dinho/Henry) and Kaka playing further deeper to support.

However, the key factor about all of the forwards mentioned is that they're all able to drop out and play on the left. This might be hugely important in CL matches and bigger matches, as we will need to have players making the extra man in midfield. We already know Seedorf can't play too many games now, so I think he'll be prepared to play less. We also now know Ambro's slot in the team is massive in the big games where we need to tighten up, so Emerson (with Thiago, Edmilson and today Gilberto Silva, who I can't imagine coming but would love) being linked is a very important move, considering Ambro is injury prone and we lack depth here.

Personally, I like the look of Henry best of the attackers linked, as I feel his overall quality and experience will be great, and I think he'd work best with Kaka of the 3.

Essentially, for the average Serie A game, I guess we'll look to play two forwards, and Ambro's slot will be sacrificed for a more attacking option as most smaller sides sit back. Something like...

-----------------------Dida-------------------------
Oddo ------Nesta---------Maldini/Bonera/?----Janku--
-----Rino/Ambro/Puma--Pirlo--Seedorf/Gourcuff-------
--------------------Kaka/Seedorf/Gourcuff-----------
---------------------------------Henry--------------
-----------------R99--------------------------------

However, then for the bigger games, where we'll need the extra protection, we can either ask for Henry (or whoever) to drop deeper onto the left playing deeper with Kaka with one or the other going to support the striker when attacking and one or the other defending the left side defensively. Ambro/Puma can also be brought into these games in their role to tighten the midfield and add more physical presence. So something like...

-------------------------Dida-------------------------
Oddo------Nesta-------------Maldini------------Janku-
---------------Rino-----------Ambro/Puma------------
----------------------Pirlo----------------------------
----------------Kaka----------------Henry/Seedorf----
-----------------------R99----------------------------

Seedorf can also be played in the withdrawn supporting role, in which situation Kaka stays further forward the whole time rather than alternating roles with another.

Another thing to note is the need for an attacking midfielder is reduced, as we can rely on Seedorf and Gourcuff to be Kaka's backup, as well as alternating in the deeper role when we're more attacking.

The only addition I'd really love then to add to the attacker (my preference is the Frenchman) and the defensive midfielder (Emerson is the most likely candidate, and one I'd welcome happily) is a leftback as I don't trust Janku there for all matches (Zambro remains the dream).

Two points here:

1) One of the biggest reasons Henry didn't really do well for France and Juve is because the coaches played him on the wing. Wenger deployed him in the middle, where he runs at defences.

2) I feel out of the strikers linked, Henry suits us the least. I think that Kaka loves making those runs from the deep that Henry makes at Arsenal. Remember whenever Henry has had someone behind him as a playmaker of some sort, he hasn't done his best (see his performances for France with Zidane in the team).

Tony29.
08-06-2007, 16:56
Two points here:

1) One of the biggest reasons Henry didn't really do well for France and Juve is because the coaches played him on the wing. Wenger deployed him in the middle, where he runs at defences.

2) I feel out of the strikers linked, Henry suits us the least. I think that Kaka loves making those runs from the deep that Henry makes at Arsenal. Remember whenever Henry has had someone behind him as a playmaker of some sort, he hasn't done his best (see his performances for France with Zidane in the team).
Great points Hasan :5ok:
I envy you for being the one who came out with this :devf:

Zlat..yes, Ribery is the most expensive player Bayern ever bought. And i wonder if he would have been bought if they didn't sell Hargreaves (who , i'm not sure but, is the most expensive player Bayern sold) for the same money.
And your explaination on why Bayern doesn't spend as much as the others is also logical and i think that's the truth :5ok:

Stezagud
08-06-2007, 17:04
2) I feel out of the strikers linked, Henry suits us the least. I think that Kaka loves making those runs from the deep that Henry makes at Arsenal. Remember whenever Henry has had someone behind him as a playmaker of some sort, he hasn't done his best (see his performances for France with Zidane in the team).

As Dev said, Henry actually does a lot of his bestwork as an old fashioned inside left forward. Its from that position that most of the Arsenal attacking midfielders of recent years have benefited from Henry, Ljungberg and Pires built careers on making 3rd man runs knowing Henry would see them and had the ability to find them too.

Because of that i do think he and Kaka would work well together, it may even help get the best out of Ronaldo and Gilardino as an extra runner for them would make a little bit more space for their more 'static' styles ;)

ACMILAN1983
08-06-2007, 17:38
And, on the formations above, maybe we'll see Carlos new formation, which he tried out at the Old Trafford in the last 10 minutes, the famous 4-6-0 ! :grinser: That is why we need Emerson
-----------------dida--------------------
---oddo----nesta-----maldini---marek--
----------emerson---pirlo--------
-gattuso---kaka'--ambro---seedorf------
--------------------------------------( the zero part) :devf:

What about this midfield for some matches...

Rino---Emerson--Ambro--Brocchi :grinser:

Two points here:

1) One of the biggest reasons Henry didn't really do well for France and Juve is because the coaches played him on the wing. Wenger deployed him in the middle, where he runs at defences.

2) I feel out of the strikers linked, Henry suits us the least. I think that Kaka loves making those runs from the deep that Henry makes at Arsenal. Remember whenever Henry has had someone behind him as a playmaker of some sort, he hasn't done his best (see his performances for France with Zidane in the team).

Steza has quite nicely answered the first point. Henry naturally cuts in from the left, and if necessary can play further out wide and make up an extra midfielder (enough to at least prevent us becoming vunerable). You also have to remember his versality, added to that of Kaka's means they'll be able to interchange more naturally (we've seen Kaka asked to play wide in a number of matches this past season). However, this is only part of the system. Henry would still remain as a withdrawn forward in the system. Another factor, Henry was young when playing as a winger, since which he's developed and matured a lot.

As for the second point, I agree that Henry likes to run from deep, like Kaka, but as I said above, both will be able to naturally intechange roles in the system. However, my reason for them working well together is that both like to play short quick passing moves through opponents, and with this in mind should compliment each other's style of play superbly. If you watch Ronaldinho and Kaka for example, Dinho tends to hold onto the ball for ages before moving it along, by which time Kaka get's picked up or loses momentum.

mrki
08-06-2007, 17:48
There is absolutly NO WAY Kaka' and Henry cant play together well. I know you will say " Kaka' and Ronaldinho cant play...". But playing Kaka'-Henry-Gilardino is actually as same as Sheva-KAka'-Gila. If he comes to Milan, Henry will play the exact same way Sheva played. Tacticcaly of course.

Tony29.
08-06-2007, 19:34
Off topic :

What do those who saw Gabriel Milito think of him ? Zaragoza's Defender , not the attacker Milito ? I don't know how, but i don't remember this player at all . I know Diego Milito and i remember some of his goals, but somehow i missed Gabriel Milito :mad:
Thanx

Tony29.
08-06-2007, 19:57
There is absolutly NO WAY Kaka' and Henry cant play together well. I know you will say " Kaka' and Ronaldinho cant play...". But playing Kaka'-Henry-Gilardino is actually as same as Sheva-KAka'-Gila. If he comes to Milan, Henry will play the exact same way Sheva played. Tacticcaly of course.
I don't know if Kaka-Henry will work. I kinda agree with Hasan and i think there will be problems for them+Ronaldo (3 super mega stars) to work ok.
But work well or don't work well...it will be silly to miss on a player like Thierry Henry. If Milan has a chance then they should get him. Milan has a lot of money so you can fix every single department and still buy Henry.

What i wonder is how much he'll cost ? I'm not talking about a fair price ( this was ment for you to read Zlat...i know you'll come here and say 18m is fair :) ) but his market price.

Yes, he was injured this season but i doubt it'll make his price even a penny lower. We're talking about Henry afterall ( imo, the best attcker in the world for the last 5 years).
Arsenal is in no need of money, he's their star and greatest player in their history. He's also under contract signed last summer. They don't want to sell Henry, which is very important here.
If they let him go it will be for some huge ammount ( reminds me of last year's Sheva transfer. He was also 30, exactly the same as Henry, Milan didn't need the money nor they wanted to sell their legend)

Chelsea were foolish enough to offer 45m euro for Sheva. Galliani isn't stupid and he won't give 45m for Henry. But if he won't pay 30 or maybe even 35m , then i doubt there's a chance Arsenal to let him go.

zlatanov
08-06-2007, 20:07
Off topic :

What do those who saw Gabriel Milito think of him ? Zaragoza's Defender , not the attacker Milito ? I don't know how, but i don't remember this player at all . I know Diego Milito and i remember some of his goals, but somehow i missed Gabriel Milito :mad:
Thanx
Juve must go for this guy ... he is crap ... just the right player to partner JA Boum-my-song :D

seriously though, I think he is one of the much better defenders out there and one of the best defenders available on the transfer market - with this I am excluding players like Nesta, Terry, etc as I see them untranfarable or close to it.

At Independiente he was the player-team so to speak and was to them what Gerrard is to Pool or Maldini to Milan. Then moved to Real M but the medical tests showed some old inury - or maybe they had a last-minute change of heart and were simply looking for an excuse - and Real decided to refuse him so Zaragoza signed him instead and since then has been their main man at the back and one of the best and most sought after defenders in La Liga.
He is kind of small in size but is a very tenacious CD, who is surprisingly tough for his size, and the best part of his game is his positioning and also his areal game, I think ... kind of reminds me of Ayala and Cannavaro.

He won't come cheap though - 20 mil minimum, I think - and Barca seem to be hot on his tail especially now that they might lose on Chivu.
there are a number of players Juve could go with and I can't say that Milito is the best they could possibly get as it would a lot depend on how he fits in Juve, but if they go with him, he would be a safe bet ... getting Cannavaro back too, could also be a good move for Juve at this point in time, I think.

Tony29.
08-06-2007, 20:18
Juve must go for this guy ... he is crap ... just the right player to partner JA Boum-my-song :D

seriously though, I think he is one of the much better defenders out there and one of the best defenders available on the transfer market - with this I am excluding players like Nesta, Terry, etc as I see them untranfarable or close to it.

At Independiente he was the player-team so to speak and was to them what Gerrard is to Pool or Maldini to Milan. Then moved to Real M but the medical tests showed some old inury - or maybe they had a last-minute change of heart and were simply looking for an excuse - and Real decided to refuse him so Zaragoza signed him instead and since then has been their main man at the back and one of the best and most sought after defenders in La Liga.
He is kind of small in size but is a very tenacious CD, who is surprisingly tough for his size, and the best part of his game is his positioning and also his areal game, I think ... kind of reminds me of Ayala and Cannavaro.

He won't come cheap though - 20 mil minimum, I think - and Barca seem to be hot on his tail especially now that they might lose on Chivu.
there are a number of players Juve could go with and I can't say that Milito is the best they could possibly get as it would a lot depend on how he fits in Juve, but if they go with him, he would be a safe bet ... getting Cannavaro back too, could also be a good move for Juve at this point in time, I think.
Thanx a lot.
How the hell do you know him so well :) I also watch La Liga now and then but this guy never caught my eye and although i know his name, i never had an impression that he could be good player.

As for the price..... i just read on juventuz that it's a 99% done deal. Zaragoza rejected Juve's last offer (16m euro) eventhough Juventus have struck personal terms with him 20 days ago, but it looks like the deal is now done (probably smthg between 18-20 m ) and everyone's only waiting for La Liga to end.

Dunno what to think....i don't mind players i never heard of if they come from outside Europe. But a player from La Liga, who costs ~20m and i never saw him in my life.....i'm a sceptic !

zlatanov
08-06-2007, 20:52
well, what I said above is more of personal impressions I have about him ... whether they are true or not will be seen very soon if those rumours turn out to be true.
I watched him a lot when he was at Independiente as I was scouting him for Milan :D ... and less so after he moved to Spain but still the impressions from what I have seen and read about his performances at Zaragoza have been very, very positive.

As a player, I think Juve is getting a very good defender who can only further improve from now on ... it remains to be seen how he would settle now but I doubt there will be any problems.

the_eels
08-06-2007, 23:24
The thing is mrki, that Milan are "all of a sudden" one of the more attractive clubs for players...no point penalty in the league, qualified for the UCL, and defending champs to boot...and the last club to win it back to back...

The coach remains, the ownership structure is solid...huge fan base...whats not to like about Milan for a star?

I dont think we will have any real trouble in getting quality players, even if the Ronaldinho saga looks to end without us getting him, especially now that Galliani has come out in public to say we are interested in Etoo...

So, in essence, we are poised to make two important additions to a squad that is already immensely talented, and proven winners...not a bad place to be in at all....very very very different from last year!

Well said ... essentially Milan was the same all along. It was a minor blip to finish fourth in the league in the long term success story. Nice CL win though :diablo:

the_eels
08-06-2007, 23:50
I would guess juve wanted above all a coach who is familiar with Italy and Serie A football as now when Juve are building a new team from scratch they would probably need that more than ever ... not exactly the time to make experiments, so to speak.

that's why I would think that Houllier was never really a real target for them although he has done pretty well at Pool and then Lyon in more recent years.
Houllier was not the only "interesting" option out there but again the lack of experience with Italian football probably weighed against a good number of caches, including Houllier.

Nice post, Zlatanov. I am not a great supporter of Ranieri, but I do appreciate his work.

I think that Ranieri is a good builder of teams in transition. He usually can't bring the team past the final lap of winning but leaves the team in a good shape for a top quality coach to tap on his work and finish it.

Case to point - check Chelsea. He gave Lampard and Terry their break, but made some less successful buys like Zenden and Gronkjaer. Almost the same case in Valencia also. Ranieri bought in Angulo and Albelda through the youth ranks who feature prominently in the current Valencia team.

Ranieri also seems to have the talent to bring out the best from "average" players like Mario Stanic, Gaizka Mendieta, Sam della Bona ... there were even times when Mendieta looked like a world class player which I wanted to have in Milan. All of them have faded since then.

Perhaps that's what Juve is looking for at the moment -they will be without CL for at least on more season, and this coming after missing out on last season. In today's elite soccer circles, that's devastating at several levels. Juve can ill afford another season with CL. Therefore in that context, Ranieri is a safe choice. Qualification for CL which Ranieri is well capable of.

The objectives in the following seasons will be different though.

Baresi
08-06-2007, 23:59
I'm pretty sure Henry will leave Arsenal because of the departure of vice-chairman David Dein and not being competitive enough in the EPL title chase but I'm not sure Milan should be the right destination. I'm the last guy who believes in curses and all that junk but in all honesty I think he'll suffer the same destiny he did at Juve. Also, let's not forget Ronaldo won't be cup-tied next season. In all honesty, all we need is a reliable back-up and not another superstar. A guy like Quagliarella or Lucarelli would do.

Rando
09-06-2007, 02:07
I'm pretty sure Henry will leave Arsenal because of the departure of vice-chairman David Dein and not being competitive enough in the EPL title chase but I'm not sure Milan should be the right destination. I'm the last guy who believes in curses and all that junk but in all honesty I think he'll suffer the same destiny he did at Juve. Also, let's not forget Ronaldo won't be cup-tied next season. In all honesty, all we need is a reliable back-up and not another superstar. A guy like Quagliarella or Lucarelli would do.

henry was used mainly as winger in juve(was ancelotti the coach?) and still scored reasonable amount of goals and wasnt given enough opportunity and games to prove himself. we have to take advantage our position as fresh european champion to attract world class player, so why not henry? he is also a humble guy that wont cause trouble in dressing room, i am not sure of eto'o in humility department though. besides, ronaldo can not play all games. inzaghi is getting old even though his predatory instinct is still there. as for gilardino, i dont really care about him as he has been disappointing in his milan's career so far.

i dont think we will sign any defenders this season, we already have 11 defenders! so unless one or more of them are leaving i can not see we will sign any defenders this season!

forza milan!!!

Baresi
09-06-2007, 03:04
we have to take advantage our position as fresh european champion to attract world class player, so why not henry?

True, it seems like everybody wants to be a rossonero :5ok: Henry is skilled and that's not the argument. He has been one of the best if not the best striker the last 5-6 years but I think it'll be an injustice to Gila-Pippo-Ronnie to get a player of his calibre to fill a role that we are filling quite well. Also, we have Kaka who is a big scorer. Still, if we get him I won't complain but if we did get him, Ancelotti would have to reconsider the lineup and it would cause Pippo and Gila seeing the bench on a regular basis.

Samuca
09-06-2007, 05:22
I don´t want Henry

Henry seems to be a player make to play in England because there is the only place that he plays amazingly

In Monaco, Henry were a good player but not amazing, in Juventus he were a bad player and in Arsenal he is amazing only when the english team don´t goes out of England

In Champions League Henry played nice for only one season, in 2005/2006

For French National Team Henry were even average, I don´t even can call he a shadow of Zidane because he were even far to be a shadow of the genious Zizou

I don´t like too the way Henry usually kick the ball, even with weaky touchs

If Milan wanna spend lots of money on a world class expensive player, the best options to try are Rooney and Eto'o

I still think that Milan's currently forwards are nice and enough and if had to hire forwards, the best options would bring back Crespo or Shevchenko

Rando
09-06-2007, 06:45
True, it seems like everybody wants to be a rossonero :5ok: Henry is skilled and that's not the argument. He has been one of the best if not the best striker the last 5-6 years but I think it'll be an injustice to Gila-Pippo-Ronnie to get a player of his calibre to fill a role that we are filling quite well. Also, we have Kaka who is a big scorer. Still, if we get him I won't complain but if we did get him, Ancelotti would have to reconsider the lineup and it would cause Pippo and Gila seeing the bench on a regular basis.

gila is probably not milan calibre. no rooney please! maybe bring back pozzi and piazza?
as for kaka as big scorer, it depends on ancelotti's tactic and who we recruit in midfield, so cant expect him to score on regular basis.

Stezagud
09-06-2007, 06:53
Samuca, whatever Henry did at Monaco it was enough to get him in France's world cup winning squad as a 20 year old, and he did top score for them at 98 too. Bear in mind it was his time at Monaco under Wenger that later persuaded Wenger to break Arsenals transfer record to sign him when the rest of Europe had written him off as a 22 year old :rolleyes:

As for his time at Juve, he was a kid and being played as a rigid left winger instead of being allowed to float into positions. He only played 16 games before Arsenal came in for him too. Its worth remembering that even the 'genius' Zidane was still playing for Bordeaux at 22, and at the time wasnt yet excelling. Its a good job for Juve they didnt have you in charge of transfers ;)

If Milan wanna spend lots of money on a world class expensive player, the best options to try are Rooney and Eto'o

Rooney is totally off the market, he simply isnt an option. Etoo is a possibility but it depends on Barca's internal politics to make it worth while, if they want to sell then Milan really should be at the front of the queue but if they want to keep him it would take a huge bid to persuade them otherwise. If Henry is available for a fraction of what it would cost to get Etoo then he is surely a better option.

trossi
09-06-2007, 07:30
guys. ETO is the best to join Milan still looking for success

Samuca
09-06-2007, 08:35
Samuca, whatever Henry did at Monaco it was enough to get him in France's world cup winning squad as a 20 year old, and he did top score for them at 98 too. Bear in mind it was his time at Monaco under Wenger that later persuaded Wenger to break Arsenals transfer record to sign him when the rest of Europe had written him off as a 22 year old :rolleyes:

As for his time at Juve, he was a kid and being played as a rigid left winger instead of being allowed to float into positions. He only played 16 games before Arsenal came in for him too. Its worth remembering that even the 'genius' Zidane was still playing for Bordeaux at 22, and at the time wasnt yet excelling. Its a good job for Juve they didnt have you in charge of transfers ;)



Rooney is totally off the market, he simply isnt an option. Etoo is a possibility but it depends on Barca's internal politics to make it worth while, if they want to sell then Milan really should be at the front of the queue but if they want to keep him it would take a huge bid to persuade them otherwise. If Henry is available for a fraction of what it would cost to get Etoo then he is surely a better option.

Doesn´t matter if Henry won a World Cup, there is a lot of bad players that already won important competitions and doesn´t matter too how much Arsenal payed for him, that kind of things are all not about him quality and that´s not a nice way to measure players

Henry didn´t do nothing to FranceNT without Zidane

"Wrong position" isn´t a nice sorry for a player with Henry's price, Kaká and Totti already played in all positions of attack part and always in a good level, if Henry were only a striker with not so many skills like Pippo, this kind of sorry could be used but he is not

Henry have nice skills but play like a girl

What´s the point of Zidane still playing for Bordeaux till 22? So how much more younger the player move for teams like Milan, Real Madrid, Juventus, etc, better he is?

With those points, you would be a amazing manager, man! Who would be the players of your team? Robinho, Henry, Aimar, Saviola and Walcott? :grinser:

If I worked in Juventus I wouldn´t do different of what they do with Henry because I would agree to get rid of him in the same way

I think Henry isn´t a player for Milan and would be tottaly lost in Calcio, like as he is in Champions League

Milan need players that call the responsibility in decisive momments and I don´t have any trust in Henry

Better spend a average money in players like Huntelaar, Crespo or Shevchenko than spend crazy values for a untrustful player as Henry

Tony29.
09-06-2007, 10:26
If I worked in Juventus I wouldn´t do different of what they do with Henry because I would agree to get rid of him in the same way

Are you saying Juve's coach did well for not giving him a chance and for keeping him as a reserve to Inzaghi (striker)/Di Livio (winger) ?

mrki
09-06-2007, 12:50
Wasnt Carlo the coach when Henry was at Juve??

Tony29.
09-06-2007, 13:01
Wasnt Carlo the coach when Henry was at Juve??
Mrki, you..... :mad:
Carlo was Juve's coach and it looks like Carlo did exactly what Samuca would have done with Henry.
But Samuca always claims how Carlo is a bad coach :)

hitmannq8
09-06-2007, 13:21
has anyone here heard of any 25m euro bid by milan for Babel and Sneijder?

zlatanov
09-06-2007, 13:43
I haven't and quite frankly doesn't sound likely to have any truth in it ... not with that figure at least.

Giorgos
09-06-2007, 14:28
At least we are back, i missed you alot fellows, Forza Milan

rosoneri_11
09-06-2007, 14:35
At least we are back, i missed you alot fellows, Forza Milan
Hey mate.How are you?Να υποθεσω οτι εγραφες?

Giorgos
09-06-2007, 14:38
Yes i continue to have exams, i also work in two jobs but there is always time for AC Milan. When i was surfing in internet nothing was the same without Milanmania.

Nice work with the server! well done.

OCmilano
09-06-2007, 14:41
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jZ1kgyk8h70&mode=related&search=

Im an armenian born in is istanbul and i follow Fenerbahce.. This guy has been with fenerbahce for awhile now and i know only one thing, he gives a 100% when he is out on the field. He is fast he hustles like gattuso and he is a finisher.. I have heard slight rumours about Milan being interested in him i wonder if it was true..

rosoneri_11
09-06-2007, 14:59
Yes i continue to have exams, i also work in two jobs but there is always time for AC Milan. When i was surfing in internet nothing was the same without Milanmania.

Nice work with the server! well done.

I hope you the best on your exams.
Many kisses to the beautifull Thessaloniki.

rosoneri_11
09-06-2007, 15:15
Some good news!Looks like Chivu will not go to Inter!

From:http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jun9r.html

Chivu silences transfer talk Saturday 9 June, 2007

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Cristian Chivu is sick of all the speculation of imminent moves to Inter, Barcelona or Madrid and insists he is only negotiating with Roma.

Contract talks are not going well and various newspapers in Italy and Europe have announced a ‘done deal’ with several different sides.


“None of the transfers that been attributed to me are real,” assured the defender in an interview with the Reuters news agency.


“I am a Roma player for another year and at this moment in time we are trying to find a way to extend my rapport with the club.”


The latest reports had Barcelona intercepting Inter’s bid (Walter Samuel, cash plus the other half of David Pizarro’s contract) with an offer of £8.8m and Brazilian star Cicinho.


“In the past year the media have attributed my future to a different club every day,” sighed the Romanian.


“None of it is true. I am only negotiating with Roma for my contract extension and have not spoken to any other sides.”


Philippe Mexes was also widely expected to walk away this summer, but he put pen to paper on a new deal tying him to the Giallorossi until June 2011.

ACMILAN1983
09-06-2007, 17:43
Mrki, you..... :mad:
Carlo was Juve's coach and it looks like Carlo did exactly what Samuca would have done with Henry.
But Samuca always claims how Carlo is a bad coach :)

Carlo has said in the recent past (within the last few months I think) that his worst moment as a manager wasn't Riazor, wasn't Istanbul, but actually was never being able to realise Henry's potential. I'm sure given the chance he'd love to have Henry.

I've not always been Henry's biggest fan, and have felt he could've done better during his career (e.g. he's never really stepped up for France), but in almost all respects I have to admit he's one of the most talented players in football. He technically superb, extremely fast (something that could benefit our squad) and surprisingly strong. He's also good at freekicks. I'm totally convinced right now that he'd be the ideal solution to add that extra spark in our attack.

There's one other benefit about getting him. Currently we have only one Frenchman in our squad, and he's still very young. I think bringing another French player would help Gourcuff feel more settled in the club, even though he seems to get on very well with the current squad.

Stezagud
09-06-2007, 18:05
Doesn´t matter if Henry won a World Cup, there is a lot of bad players that already won important competitions and doesn´t matter too how much Arsenal payed for him, that kind of things are all not about him quality and that´s not a nice way to measure players

Actually its not what i measure players on, it was purely a defence against what you measured him on, that being that for 16 games as a 22 year old kid a decade ago he didnt play well which you seem to think makes him unworthy now! :rolleyes:

"Wrong position" isn´t a nice sorry for a player with Henry's price, Kaká and Totti already played in all positions of attack part and always in a good level, if Henry were only a striker with not so many skills like Pippo, this kind of sorry could be used but he is not

Henry is a capable player in any attacking position, but just like Kaka and Totti and anyone else you care to mention he has particular roles that get the best out of him. If you told Totti for example to play a sa pure striker he could do it, but not as well as if he is given a free role to play how he sees fit. Understand?

What´s the point of Zidane still playing for Bordeaux till 22? So how much more younger the player move for teams like Milan, Real Madrid, Juventus, etc, better he is?

With those points, you would be a amazing manager, man! Who would be the players of your team? Robinho, Henry, Aimar, Saviola and Walcott?

:rolleyes:

If you didnt get it the first time i dont know if its worth explaining again...actually i apologise as English isnt your first language.

The point i was making was that you have discounted Henry's Arsenal career to judge him on what he did for Monaco and Juve, a part of his career that ended when he was still only 22. If you applied the same criteria to judging Zidane you would conclude that he was a decent player for Bordeaux, but nothing special. Do you see? As i was using your criteria to make the point, it follows that YOU would be the amazing manager selecting Saviola and Walcott :grinser:

If I worked in Juventus I wouldn´t do different of what they do with Henry because I would agree to get rid of him in the same way

even with hindsight? :eek:

If so then you are beyond help my friend :D

Dr Milano
09-06-2007, 18:54
chivu's not going to inter because he supports milan ... :grinser:

top guy .... :p017:

Arildonardo
09-06-2007, 19:16
chivu's not going to inter because he supports milan ... :grinser:

top guy .... :p017:
If he supports Milan he should be going to Milan. If he stays where he is, he supports Roma... :rolleyes:

Samuca
09-06-2007, 19:34
Are you saying Juve's coach did well for not giving him a chance and for keeping him as a reserve to Inzaghi (striker)/Di Livio (winger) ?

Yes and if Ancelotti did it, what it means? That I agree with Ancelotti in one point? Well if it makes you happy, I appreciate too the way how Ancelotti make the players united and don´t ask players to play violently

I just think that Milan could have better coachs, I never said that Ancelotti is quite bad

Actually its not what i measure players on, it was purely a defence against what you measured him on, that being that for 16 games as a 22 year old kid a decade ago he didnt play well which you seem to think makes him unworthy now! :rolleyes:
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Henry is a capable player in any attacking position, but just like Kaka and Totti and anyone else you care to mention he has particular roles that get the best out of him. If you told Totti for example to play a sa pure striker he could do it, but not as well as if he is given a free role to play how he sees fit. Understand?



:rolleyes:

If you didnt get it the first time i dont know if its worth explaining again...actually i apologise as English isnt your first language.

The point i was making was that you have discounted Henry's Arsenal career to judge him on what he did for Monaco and Juve, a part of his career that ended when he was still only 22. If you applied the same criteria to judging Zidane you would conclude that he was a decent player for Bordeaux, but nothing special. Do you see? As i was using your criteria to make the point, it follows that YOU would be the amazing manager selecting Saviola and Walcott :grinser:



even with hindsight? :eek:

If so then you are beyond help my friend :D

Why are you trying to exclude the young part of Henry after you try to tell me how good were Henry when he were young talking about things like FrenchNT?

Don´t try to blame my english that by the way, I know isn´t good, just to try to hide your contradiction, it´s too bad

Henry is so far to be capable as Kaká and Totti in any attack positions and by the way, you have to watch more Roma's matches because Totti proved this season that even playing as a striker, he is one of the best players in the world and almost won the golden boot

The difference between Henry and Zidane is that Zizou have courage, he calls the responsibility, he pass the spirit of victory to him mates no matter how competition he is playing

Henry make a thousand goals in EPL and play like a girl when he is in competitions like World Cup and Champions League

It´s not about age, not about skill, it´s about the spirit inside the player

I know it´s hard to you understand it when the players of national team of your country even hide against teams like Brasil (in all history) or Portugal (in recent history) and english people still thinking that have the best football and players of the world but if you compare Zidane's and Henry's way to play you will see a huge difference, if don´t, so you will need more help than I think you need

Just to resume, I just think that Henry would be not good in Milan as he is in England, he seems to be a player made to play in that UK country and would be a mistake pay a expensive price for this player

I think Henry is very worse than players as Shevchenko, Ronaldo, Crespo, Nistelrooy, Totti, Rooney, etc

If Milan hire Henry and he make more goals in Champions League than Kaká, Shevchenko and Van Basten together, fine, I'll be happy because he is not a girl anymore and will be helping Milan but the italian team don´t need to try this lucky shot

MiamiMilanista
09-06-2007, 19:35
It baffles me that Milan are dragging their feet this summer... All European leagues are complete with the exception of La Liga. What are Milan waiting for? At this point we have not made a signing while several teams are proactive in their processes already.

Eto'o, Ronaldinho as targets. Fine, I get it, we await till their season ends. But lets not allow good players on the market to slip. Emerson is going to be a great signing, but a solid central defender is needed to accompany Nesta! We can't forget that Nesta can be injury prone and Maldini is almost ready to hang up the boots and has lost a step (Saddens me to say since he's been an idol to many growing up). When reports circulated on Terry and Cannavaro a smile came to my face. No matter what, defense wins championships. Italy '06....Until the final, they allowed 1 goal and guess who scored, Zaccardo.

My advice to Milan, let's get a move on it as we may see a lot of target dwindle away. We can't have another poor summer transfer market.

Forza Rossoneri!!

:devf:

SoccM84
09-06-2007, 19:52
Couldn't have said it better myself!!!!!

Baresi
10-06-2007, 00:26
Relax man, everybody wants to come to Milan. Remeber last year? No player could distance themselves enough from Milan!! Year later, we are CL champions and everybody wants us! I believe we'll get the signings we need but in all honesty I'm very much concerned that we aren't adressing our LB issues. I'm not at all satisfied with Janku, he's simply not that good in my opinion. He had several good games and all of a sudden he is a starter. Please, next time you watch a Milan game just watch his movements. He's great at going up and providing the cross but when it comes to actual defending, he's mediocre at best. Other than Oddo, the rest of our defence is also a mess!! Nesta is spectacular when healthy but as of late it seems like he's always injured. ag2765, you're right about Maldini. He's been my hero ever since I've been watching Milan and unfortunately he isn't as reliable anymore. This is also his last year in all probability. In my opinion, Milan has a very weak back-line and it should definitely be adressed with several signings this summer. 2 excellent CB's and 1 excellent LB. A good goalkeeper would also be great

Baresi
10-06-2007, 00:47
Did you hear Chivu wants to come to Milan :5ok: That could be a start to solving our back-line woes :p017:

mrki
10-06-2007, 03:58
Who said that about Chivu? Where did you see it ?

hwmook
10-06-2007, 05:18
In my opinion, Milan has a very weak back-line and it should definitely be adressed with several signings this summer.

why don't you go and see which one of our defender is frequently selected in Serie A team of the week last season? You have no idea? let me remind you, its bonera who week in week out is consistently nominated as one of the best in defense. He lost his place to nesta and maldini in the later part of the season and in UCL but i have no doubt he is an absolute talent we have on hand. I don't see how buying another talent to dump on the bench will help. Kala is also a good defender but he doesn't get to play. Simic does pretty decent when called upon. We have enough defenders, the problem lie in them not gettng enough games. When they get to play, they play well but the fans soon forget them when they don't get to play and then ask for new players. We need to start letting people like bonera have more games and start more often rather than just a backup for nesta and maldini. Even if we get chivu and mexes, we will dump them on the bench to rot while playing with nesta and maldini.

Tony75
10-06-2007, 07:28
Chivu isn't in the same class as kaladze, who should be 1st choice when Maldini is unfit, as he's better than Bonera also. I think some people look at names b4 football.

Dr Milano
10-06-2007, 07:48
Who said that about Chivu? Where did you see it ?
In his dreams ... :rolleyes:

ACMILAN1983
10-06-2007, 07:49
I don't know why people are so desperate to get a new starting central defender. We may need a couple of replacements to fill Costacurta's place and possibly Simic's should he leave, but on the whole we're not in a bad position for defenders.

I'll start with Maldini, who people have been doubting again. Now, take away the Inter match and Liverpool match (in which he wasn't playing well, but didn't make any major errors), both of which he played in poor shape, and he was our most consistent defender this past year, as well as the one who drove forward when the team was struggling in the first half of the year. As long as he's not being asked to play more than 1 match a week and has a proper preseason to prepare (after recovering from his operation), I'm sure he'll be ok next season. As for his knee problems, if I'm correct his previous knee problem which he had an operation on a year ago was not the same knee that he's got to have an operation on this year, so the hope is that after this operation, he'll be in better condition next season (though that won't mean he can play too regularly).

Bonera was the biggest surprise for us this season, as he stepped up to provide a solid alternative to Nesta. He has the potential to be a rock in the backline, but currently lacks the experience in more high pressure games, though in saying that he was still one of the best defenders in Italy for much of the season. However, should Nesta or Maldini need a rest, he is a more than capable defender to come in for most matches.

Finally, we have Kaladze. Yes, he's had his injury problems, but at the same time, we know he is able to do an excellent job in the backline, stepping up for big matches (Man U being a prime example this season). He's a fantastic alternative to have in our backline to step in for Maldini.

We have some real quality players in our backline, and next season we'll have a proper preseason preparation to get them in the right condition to last the season, which will heavily reduce injury concerns.

I do want a new world class defender, but a LB, not CB.

Stezagud
10-06-2007, 08:22
Why are you trying to exclude the young part of Henry after you try to tell me how good were Henry when he were young talking about things like FrenchNT?

Don´t try to blame my english that by the way, I know isn´t good, just to try to hide your contradiction, it´s too bad

Contradiction? lol, International football is different to club football and wouldnt really matter to Milan, thats why i dont consider it as important an issue. Most games are friendlies that big sides treat as irrelevant, as a Brazilian you should know that more than most!

As for Henry's performance in games that matter, i already mentioned he top scored for France in 98 as a 20 year old, he also was joint top scorer with Zidane at the last world cup, though 2 of Zidanes goals were penalties....Henry also put out your side, which maybe explains your loathing of him. Overall he has nearly 40 international goals at a rate of roughly 1 in 2, which is fine by any international standards, and perfectly acceptable compared to Owen, RvN, Pippo, Sheva, Raul and any other European contemparies. :5ok:

Henry is so far to be capable as Kaká and Totti in any attack positions and by the way, you have to watch more Roma's matches because Totti proved this season that even playing as a striker, he is one of the best players in the world and almost won the golden boot

If Totti is so versatile though why is his international record 9 goals in 59? If you want to make a point like that you've got to stick to the criteria you judge Henry on....

The difference between Henry and Zidane is that Zizou have courage, he calls the responsibility, he pass the spirit of victory to him mates no matter how competition he is playing

Henry make a thousand goals in EPL and play like a girl when he is in competitions like World Cup and Champions League

It´s not about age, not about skill, it´s about the spirit inside the player

That sounds a lot like MzK's arguments :D

If you want a fighter and skill is irrelevent then why arent you recommending Alan Smith? :dielaugh:

And i bet there are a lot of players who wish they could play likes girls if Henry is an example of what they can do in the CL and International games. Henry has 44 goals in 77 CL matches, which is as good a rate as anyone except RvN. Its even a better rate than Sheva, and for a worse side too.

I know it´s hard to you understand it when the players of national team of your country even hide against teams like Brasil (in all history) or Portugal (in recent history) and english people still thinking that have the best football and players of the world but if you compare Zidane's and Henry's way to play you will see a huge difference, if don´t, so you will need more help than I think you need

A rather pointless and cheap shot, perhaps a sign of a weak argument?

Maybe if your national team wasnt hiding against France (in recent history) you would have noticed Henry putting you out last summer ;)

kastriot
10-06-2007, 09:16
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I'll start with Maldini, who people have been doubting again. Now, take away the Inter match and Liverpool match (in which he wasn't playing well, but didn't make any major errors), both of which he played in poor shape, and he was our most consistent defender this past year, as well as the one who drove forward when the team was struggling in the first half of the year. As long as he's not being asked to play more than 1 match a week and has a proper preseason to prepare (after recovering from his operation), I'm sure he'll be ok next season. As for his knee problems, if I'm correct his previous knee problem which he had an operation on a year ago was not the same knee that he's got to have an operation on this year, so the hope is that after this operation, he'll be in better condition next season (though that won't mean he can play too regularly).

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Its not that we doubt Maldini,every single MIlan fan knows what he means to us!!!! however, The most important thing about the defenses is that they need to play together constantly.... And if Maldini can play one game a week that means that he can play either in CL or Serie A,bot not both!!!! That means that nesta if available should play with both Bonera and Maldini in a week, and thats not the best thing to do, as the communication will be week IMO, May not be as problem for nesta and Maldini,as they are more experenced but for sure it will be a problem for bonera if his not playing constantly,

If we go back, will see that Bonera when he was playing occasionally as a sub for the both Maldini and Nesta(at the beginning of the season) he was playing poorly,We were all doubting his quality....but than nesta got injured and he started to play every game.....and boom,His our guy now....his was the man that was called the best young Italian defender!!!!!!!

FOr all the players its important to play constantly, but for the back four its essential to play together for a longer period...(see, Canna,Samuel an Thuram ) when they changed partner they underperformed)

I love Maldini,and I know that his still one of the best 5 in the world, but if he not he cant play more than 1 game a week that we need another defender or just give a chance to bonera!!!!!!!! That is if we are going after all the Titles available to us!!!

Graeme C
10-06-2007, 10:56
i agree, i think bonera was one of our best signings last summer! he just needs a bit more expierence playing with nesta then he will be fine!

Just read if Real win la liga, barca might have a clear out. Eto is rumoured to be worth £20 mill and milan might try and get zambrotta included in the deal. (channel4)

Samuca
10-06-2007, 13:16
Contradiction? lol, International football is different to club football and wouldnt really matter to Milan, thats why i dont consider it as important an issue. Most games are friendlies that big sides treat as irrelevant, as a Brazilian you should know that more than most!

As for Henry's performance in games that matter, i already mentioned he top scored for France in 98 as a 20 year old, he also was joint top scorer with Zidane at the last world cup, though 2 of Zidanes goals were penalties....Henry also put out your side, which maybe explains your loathing of him. Overall he has nearly 40 international goals at a rate of roughly 1 in 2, which is fine by any international standards, and perfectly acceptable compared to Owen, RvN, Pippo, Sheva, Raul and any other European contemparies. :5ok:



If Totti is so versatile though why is his international record 9 goals in 59? If you want to make a point like that you've got to stick to the criteria you judge Henry on....



That sounds a lot like MzK's arguments :D

If you want a fighter and skill is irrelevent then why arent you recommending Alan Smith? :dielaugh:

And i bet there are a lot of players who wish they could play likes girls if Henry is an example of what they can do in the CL and International games. Henry has 44 goals in 77 CL matches, which is as good a rate as anyone except RvN. Its even a better rate than Sheva, and for a worse side too.



A rather pointless and cheap shot, perhaps a sign of a weak argument?

Maybe if your national team wasnt hiding against France (in recent history) you would have noticed Henry putting you out last summer ;)

Numbers, numbers, tipical point used by people who don´t know nothing about football as you

And please, don´t put Owen beside Shevchenko, Nistelrooy and Pippo, don´t kill the football

You are talking so many that I wouldn´t be surprise if you started to say that Mista, Fernando Torres and Josemari are amazing forwards because they already did more than 15 goals in one season at spanish league

I don´t mind about number, marketing, prizes and that kind of stuff, I make my own opinion based in what I watch in the games

If I don´t like Henry because he made a goal against Brasil in World Cup, what´s the point about me talking lot of nice things about Zidane, a player that for sure ruined BrazilNT for 2 important times?

You are so pointless

Totti is a amazing and versatile player but you would never recognize how good is this italian player cause he doesn´t play at Spice Girls League ("the best league of the world) or Milan, Inter and Juve

Totti loves Roma and don´t hide himself of important games, him team make him marketing weaky and robots of numbers and marketing will never understand how can a player like Totti be good

Henry have 44 goals in CL matches? Wow, numbers again! I'm so surprised!

Funny because I almost never watch Arsenal going far in UCL, neither when Arsenal were champion of EPL without a lose, that´s so weird!

I prefer players as Kuyt and Inzaghi that aren´t so skilled but fight till the end and never give up than girls like Henry and Ronaldinho

But keep not understanding it, it´s even good to scenes like Garrincha making the english players falling with their butts on the grass

I don´t wanna change the thoughts of the people in a country that in the 5 times that Brasil won World Cup, 3 of them was ruining England

2 men put Brasil out of last World Cup: Parreira and Zidane

Want a new sign? So: Thank you to have this kind of thought, the National Team of my country is so glad! When you turn into a manager, make team with players like Reyes, Robinho, Henry, etc

Milan will be glad to score 3 goals or more on your "dream team" in a Champions League match

ACMILAN1983
10-06-2007, 14:02
Its not that we doubt Maldini,every single MIlan fan knows what he means to us!!!! however, The most important thing about the defenses is that they need to play together constantly.... And if Maldini can play one game a week that means that he can play either in CL or Serie A,bot not both!!!! That means that nesta if available should play with both Bonera and Maldini in a week, and thats not the best thing to do, as the communication will be week IMO, May not be as problem for nesta and Maldini,as they are more experenced but for sure it will be a problem for bonera if his not playing constantly,

If we go back, will see that Bonera when he was playing occasionally as a sub for the both Maldini and Nesta(at the beginning of the season) he was playing poorly,We were all doubting his quality....but than nesta got injured and he started to play every game.....and boom,His our guy now....his was the man that was called the best young Italian defender!!!!!!!

FOr all the players its important to play constantly, but for the back four its essential to play together for a longer period...(see, Canna,Samuel an Thuram ) when they changed partner they underperformed)

I love Maldini,and I know that his still one of the best 5 in the world, but if he not he cant play more than 1 game a week that we need another defender or just give a chance to bonera!!!!!!!! That is if we are going after all the Titles available to us!!!

I agree that defences need consistency to be able to play together with a sound understanding. I also agree that Maldini and Nesta have an amazing understanding when playing together, and so even if they don't play every match together, they won't have trouble playing with each other.

Finally, I also agree with Bonera being the player that needs to play regularly to develop that understanding. Actually, with Maldini he's already very good, and doesn't seem to have a problem even with a lot of chopping and changing. But with Nesta and Kaladze, he's still not developed a brilliant partnership.

But the problem with this is Kaladze. Kala is most likely to be higher in the squad than Bonera. He's got an excellent understanding with Nesta with whom he can slot into the side with without a problem, and has played at the highest level in many big games.

If Maldini is changing on a regular basis, my bet would be we'd see a Nesta-Kala partnership, rather than Nesta-Bonera. On that note, I really don't feel too worried with a little change every so often.

mrki
10-06-2007, 14:17
Maybe when La Liga finishes, we'll just sign Emerson, Eto'o and Zambrotta and then we can say we have the best squad in the world for sure. That would be some good mercato business...

Giorgos
10-06-2007, 14:39
You state your opinion very well but by sure we want a LB and if we hadn't bought Oddo i would love to see Dani Alves i am obsessed with him.

Hasan Rossonero
10-06-2007, 16:43
Does anyone else think this "unsuspected player" (as Ancelotti said) will be Michael Owen?

I hope not as that wouldn't really be a transfer to get the pulses racing.

Nalx
10-06-2007, 17:04
Relax man, everybody wants to come to Milan. Remeber last year? No player could distance themselves enough from Milan!! Year later, we are CL champions and everybody wants us! I believe we'll get the signings we need but in all honesty I'm very much concerned that we aren't adressing our LB issues. I'm not at all satisfied with Janku, he's simply not that good in my opinion. He had several good games and all of a sudden he is a starter. Please, next time you watch a Milan game just watch his movements. He's great at going up and providing the cross but when it comes to actual defending, he's mediocre at best. Other than Oddo, the rest of our defence is also a mess!! Nesta is spectacular when healthy but as of late it seems like he's always injured. ag2765, you're right about Maldini. He's been my hero ever since I've been watching Milan and unfortunately he isn't as reliable anymore. This is also his last year in all probability. In my opinion, Milan has a very weak back-line and it should definitely be adressed with several signings this summer. 2 excellent CB's and 1 excellent LB. A good goalkeeper would also be great

Last season we conceded 34 goals in serie A, only 2 goals more than Inter and Roma. If the defense that is "a mess" could annihilate MU's striking force and eventually win UCL, I'd be more than just happy to have it every year!

Stezagud
10-06-2007, 17:44
Numbers, numbers, tipical point used by people who don´t know nothing about football as you

OK, so you dont value age or skill in transfer targets, and now you dont value goals or assists either :dielaugh:

And please, don´t put Owen beside Shevchenko, Nistelrooy and Pippo, don´t kill the football

You are talking so many that I wouldn´t be surprise if you started to say that Mista, Fernando Torres and Josemari are amazing forwards because they already did more than 15 goals in one season at spanish league

All those players were listed for a reason, they have all lead the line for their nations for nearly a decade and are therefore the best comparisons for Henry. Maybe you dont appreciate reality but thats the way it is! Who else is there to add? Trezeguet and Pauleta have been around for a decade too and they also have records of roughly 1 in 2, just like Henry, Owen, Sheva and the rest.

I don´t mind about number, marketing, prizes and that kind of stuff, I make my own opinion based in what I watch in the games

So do I, but i can at least support my position with facts, instead of resorting to mindless babblings about Henry plays like a girl :rolleyes:

Totti is a amazing and versatile player but you would never recognize how good is this italian player cause he doesn´t play at Spice Girls League ("the best league of the world) or Milan, Inter and Juve

I know exactly how good Totti is, and has been for many years. This isnt about him though. I also know exactly why Totti has a relatively poor goal return for Italy compared to Roma, i used it as an example to make a point that you clearly havent got yet...

And then its back to drivel about England :rolleyes:

Basically your whole argument is a case of shouting out 'im right' no matter whats put in front of you and to be perfectly honest i cant be bothered continuing this.

zlatanov
10-06-2007, 18:19
Does anyone else think this "unsuspected player" (as Ancelotti said) will be Michael Owen?

I hope not as that wouldn't really be a transfer to get the pulses racing.
what makes you think that, Hasan? Any rumours about it or you just woke up from a nightmare? :D
I honestly doubt there is a chance for Milan to go for MO ... he would be way too "unsuspected" of a transfer :D.
He is talented striker no doubt but way too injury proned and hardly Milan would see him fit for Serie A given that apart from a rather average spell at Real M, he has always played in the EPL ... really doubt we would take a gamble on him.

hitmannq8
10-06-2007, 18:33
Hasan, ur posts have always made sense. You have disappointed me! From all the players out there, Milan would go for an engl..... I mean... Michael Owen??? i certainly hope not, but if it was Gila that was going out then i dont mind :D

Hasan Rossonero
10-06-2007, 18:41
Hasan, ur posts have always made sense. You have disappointed me! From all the players out there, Milan would go for an engl..... I mean... Michael Owen??? i certainly hope not, but if it was Gila that was going out then i dont mind :D

:D I know...I know...I definitely would not want Owen in our team, but I am just trying to list off "unsuspected players". Everyone else we have been linked to.

Hasan Rossonero
10-06-2007, 18:43
what makes you think that, Hasan? Any rumours about it or you just woke up from a nightmare? :D
I honestly doubt there is a chance for Milan to go for MO ... he would be way too "unsuspected" of a transfer :D.
He is talented striker no doubt but way too injury proned and hardly Milan would see him fit for Serie A given that apart from a rather average spell at Real M, he has always played in the EPL ... really doubt we would take a gamble on him.
Yes it was indeed a nightmare. I thought that simply because he would be a real shock! I agree with your assessments.

There is talk of Owen leaving Newcastle, so it got me thinking.

Leo
10-06-2007, 19:15
Well Owen wasn't bad partnering up with Ronaldo back in Real, but oh well I wouldn't want 2 injury prone strikers on my team.

Anyways I wanted to post about Gabriel Heinze and see what you fans think. You see, he seems to want more playing time but Fergie seem to prefer Evra over him. I rated Heinze very highly before his injury 1.5 years ago. Ever since he came back he has not been the same, but is still very solid (forget CL SEMIS hehe) and versatile. Barcelona have been linked with him and I thought that if we can't get Zambrotta for whatever reason, then we could opt for Heinze as he would definitely be a better option on the left than Janku and could also play CB when needed. Cheers

Hasan Rossonero
10-06-2007, 20:06
Well Owen wasn't bad partnering up with Ronaldo back in Real, but oh well I wouldn't want 2 injury prone strikers on my team.

Anyways I wanted to post about Gabriel Heinze and see what you fans think. You see, he seems to want more playing time but Fergie seem to prefer Evra over him. I rated Heinze very highly before his injury 1.5 years ago. Ever since he came back he has not been the same, but is still very solid (forget CL SEMIS hehe) and versatile. Barcelona have been linked with him and I thought that if we can't get Zambrotta for whatever reason, then we could opt for Heinze as he would definitely be a better option on the left than Janku and could also play CB when needed. Cheers

I have been a big fan of Heinze. Before the injury he was immense, but after it, as you say, quite different. I think he is a good plan B, and though he is 29, he would be a great addition to our team.

makkko
10-06-2007, 21:34
hey Milanista... it has been a long time .. almost 19 months since i posted.. but have been reading all your posts....

Btw, wasnt Heinze playing CB before MU took him... i remember he used to be a CB and he was a rock...

Samuca
10-06-2007, 21:51
OK, so you dont value age or skill in transfer targets, and now you dont value goals or assists either :dielaugh:



All those players were listed for a reason, they have all lead the line for their nations for nearly a decade and are therefore the best comparisons for Henry. Maybe you dont appreciate reality but thats the way it is! Who else is there to add? Trezeguet and Pauleta have been around for a decade too and they also have records of roughly 1 in 2, just like Henry, Owen, Sheva and the rest.



So do I, but i can at least support my position with facts, instead of resorting to mindless babblings about Henry plays like a girl :rolleyes:



I know exactly how good Totti is, and has been for many years. This isnt about him though. I also know exactly why Totti has a relatively poor goal return for Italy compared to Roma, i used it as an example to make a point that you clearly havent got yet...

And then its back to drivel about England :rolleyes:

Basically your whole argument is a case of shouting out 'im right' no matter whats put in front of you and to be perfectly honest i cant be bothered continuing this.

Keep thinking like that, BrasilNT is very glad for it :5ok:

Would be pointless if I kept having discussion with a robot that don´t know nothing but numbers

Henry is a amazing player and that´s the reason of the sucess of Arsenal in Champions League for so much time and the reason of the sucess of FranceNT without Zidane :5ok: :stupid:

Well Owen wasn't bad partnering up with Ronaldo back in Real, but oh well I wouldn't want 2 injury prone strikers on my team.



I remember it and Owen did a great job with Ronaldo, Real Madrid were so stupid to get rid of the english player to give more space to Robinho

I think that Real Madrid with Samuel, Gravesen, Owen and Ronaldo were better than currently Real Madrid

mrki
11-06-2007, 04:21
I really think all of our transfer targets are in Spain, so we need to wait another week. Eto'o, Emerson, Zambrotta...

zlatanov
11-06-2007, 06:25
http://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/SerieA/Squadre/Milan/Primo_Piano/2007/06_Giugno/11/etoo.shtml

well at least this one for sure is in Spain :D

in short, most importantly, the article says, Carlo will be having a Looong vacation in Spain ... and there in the bottom it mentions that Milan's Galliani and Braida are getting ready for even longer negotiations with Barca for Etoo, whose price is expected to be around 40 mil.
It's believed that reaching an agreement with the player would not be a problem given that he would be among the best-paid at Milan and would be getting somewhere around 6 mil/season.
Edmilson could also become a subject of discussion during the meeting(s) between Barca and Milan officials.

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http://www.calciomercato.com/index.php?c=21&a=45436

on the same story, Corriere dello Sport, says that Milan could also try one last time for Dinho before focusing on Etoo and that Gila could also become part of the deal, while Zambrotta is see as too expensive (for a player his age, I guess).

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http://www.calciomercato.com/index.php?c=23&a=45450

Milan seems to have Tiago on their radar and Lion is believed to value the player at 18 mil. Juventus has reportedly already made an approach for the player in the recent past but Milan seems to be the more insistent club lately.

rosoneri_11
11-06-2007, 06:34
good news zlatt.

Stezagud
11-06-2007, 07:01
Would be pointless if I kept having discussion with a robot that don´t know nothing but numbers

Henry is a amazing player and that´s the reason of the sucess of Arsenal in Champions League for so much time and the reason of the sucess of FranceNT without Zidane

Arsenal are a small team, smaller even than Roma in terms of European tradition. With Henry they havent won anything but they have been in contention which is more than Totti's Roma have been. So if you consider Henry unworthy because of his teams struggles then surely by the same logic you must consider Totti even worse ;)

As for Henry and France, international football is different. I dont remember Brazil winning anything with Kaka in the side? I guess Milan had better sell him quick because clearly we cant have players who cant win on the internatiopnal stage :dielaugh:

Stezagud
11-06-2007, 07:07
Owen is an excellent poacher but his release clause is £9m and that is too much for a player only 5 games back from a cruciate injury. Unfortunately if he were to prove himself fit again next season and smack in 30 goals then it would just lead to the EPL top 4 bidding (none are currently interested) and after his time at Real i doubt Owen would bother moving abroad if he had that choice.

Heinze is a good player but very rash, even by EPl standards he is reckless with tackles :D

He can be bought for £5m which isnt a bad price for someone of his versatility and experience but he is probably more suited to Spain and with Barca and Real supposeldy interested thats where he'll most likely end up.

icculus
11-06-2007, 11:22
Mauro Camoranesi could leave Juventus and would favour a move to one of Inter, Milan and Roma according to his agent. http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jun11d.html

could he fit in? i think he is a great talent, but how could we utilize him?

this is more than likely, just a way to get his cash.

totti_jonaid
11-06-2007, 11:40
Mauro Camoranesi could leave Juventus and would favour a move to one of Inter, Milan and Roma according to his agent. http://www.channel4.com/sport/footb...lia/jun11d.html

He is too slow for a RM age is clearly telling on him plus he would never want to come as a back up to Gattuso and that is the only place I find for him in the team.

King tiger
11-06-2007, 11:58
no, i dont think that hes too slow , i think that he i s considerably fast.

Hasan Rossonero
11-06-2007, 12:21
One thing I will say is that Camo is definitely not slow. The age, yes, is an issue.

mrki
11-06-2007, 13:36
French ,edia is saying Henry will join Barca for 10 mil a year wages for 3 years...

GilAttack [11]
11-06-2007, 13:53
French ,edia is saying Henry will join Barca for 10 mil a year wages for 3 years...

If thats the case, either Ronaldinho or Eto'o is leaving.

Warro Bantan
11-06-2007, 14:03
The plot thickens!! Hmmmm who will it be? Ronaldinho, Etoo or Henry?
As rumors run amock, like headless chickens, will the end result be a fairy tale, or a sad one like those by Dickens?

Of the three, Etoo seems the best buy,
Even if Henry is a stand up guy,
And certainly Ronnie is not goal shy.

I for one hope, it will be the African,
coming to join, the European Champion!

:D

hany.Egypt
11-06-2007, 14:17
does any one know wheather or not Ze roberto going to join Milan? caz I heard that he will return to Bayern again.
He is too slow for a RM age is clearly telling on him plus he would never want to come as a back up to Gattuso and that is the only place I find for him in the team.
I think he is not slow at all, and he can play instead of Ambrosini, I think he is much better than him so that the formation will be like that
Oddo......Nesta......Maldini.....Janku
Pirlo........Gattuso
Camoranesi...........Seedorf
Kaka'
Ronaldo
its quit good I think and will be much better if Zambrotta substituted Janku
the problem is that I feel that Milan wont get any new players which is going to be really aggressive

hitmannq8
11-06-2007, 14:20
anyone think we might have a shot goin for Carlitos Tevez? he has reiterated his desire of wantin to play for a big European club for some time..Man U seem interested, but I think Chelsea will try to snap him up. I wonder if Milan would be interested?

Samuca
11-06-2007, 14:48
Arsenal are a small team, smaller even than Roma in terms of European tradition. With Henry they havent won anything but they have been in contention which is more than Totti's Roma have been. So if you consider Henry unworthy because of his teams struggles then surely by the same logic you must consider Totti even worse ;)

As for Henry and France, international football is different. I dont remember Brazil winning anything with Kaka in the side? I guess Milan had better sell him quick because clearly we cant have players who cant win on the internatiopnal stage :dielaugh:

You still talking about players letting left what they do in the field, even talking about numbers or trophyes

Kaká were a amazing player at São Paulo, is a amazing player in Brasil and even when he lost, not just for Brasil but for Milan too, he never run away from the responsability in the game and even try do give him best

By the way, Kaká participated in 3 competitions for Brasil (sorry if I forgot some):World Cup of 2002 when he were in the stool but Brasil won, Confederations Cup that he won already in the primal team and World Cup of 2006 that Brasil were a damn disaster

Anyway, I just think that Henry wouldn´t be good for Milan because I think that he don´t know how to play a Champions League, if you don´t agree, ok, it´s just yours and mine opinion

icculus
11-06-2007, 15:03
anyone think we might have a shot goin for Carlitos Tevez? he has reiterated his desire of wantin to play for a big European club for some time..Man U seem interested, but I think Chelsea will try to snap him up. I wonder if Milan would be interested?

With Juventus unwilling to sell them David Trezeguet, Inter are turning their attention towards Carlos Tevez
http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jun10i.html

this kid is a true talent...singlehandedly kept west ham in the epl. i would of liked to see him come last summer. though:
his contract stuff is confusing, and he had a falling out at his club in argentina where he seemed like a head-case. however, i think he has been very mature, and has acted with class at west ham.

Nalx
11-06-2007, 15:08
anyone think we might have a shot goin for Carlitos Tevez? he has reiterated his desire of wantin to play for a big European club for some time..Man U seem interested, but I think Chelsea will try to snap him up. I wonder if Milan would be interested?
I like Carlitos very much. In West Ham's last few matches he played like hell. If that's not enough look how he had the balls to play in Brazil, something that not many Argentina players dare to do. And he did very well there, won both the league and MVP award

hitmannq8
11-06-2007, 15:30
no question in his talent in quality, i was asking whether you guys think he is under our radar? like for example cassano has been available for cheap for a long time now and he is young and prolly the best italian talent, but milan dont want to sign him because he's a trouble-maker.. do you think Milan see Tevez as some kind of a problem? i dont understand why we dont go for him, he fits the description of the player we have needed since last summer.

Stezagud
11-06-2007, 16:36
Anyway, I just think that Henry wouldn´t be good for Milan because I think that he don´t know how to play a Champions League, if you don´t agree, ok, it´s just yours and mine opinion

fair enough i think we'd better leave it at that :v103:

I dont think either of us will ever be proven right anyway, if Henry goes anywhere its 90% sure to be Spain :diablo:

Stezagud
11-06-2007, 16:40
no question in his talent in quality, i was asking whether you guys think he is under our radar? like for example cassano has been available for cheap for a long time now and he is young and prolly the best italian talent, but milan dont want to sign him because he's a trouble-maker.. do you think Milan see Tevez as some kind of a problem? i dont understand why we dont go for him, he fits the description of the player we have needed since last summer.

As far as i can tell, the problem with Tevez is over his valuation. In recent weeks i have seen his value as given high as £34m (which Inter will offer supposedly :( ) and as low as a free transfer!

The peculiarities of his contract with West Ham are still being evaluated and there was a report saying they could be forced to release him, though he would still be owned by MSI and who knows what they would settle for. Until all of this is sorted nobody will try to buy him as they simply dont know what to offer :D

jtelly
11-06-2007, 18:01
maybe he's not a trouble maker, but i think tevez's ownership issue is just too weird. i'd rather he go somewhere else for the big money (i mean, 34 mil seems a bit steep for like 5 weeks of playing like a god-that's definitely inter territory).
i had brought up heinze a few weeks ago, nobody said boo about it. i think he's sold to spain though, so it don't matter anywayz-why the hell is everyone going to spain?!

Ghost
11-06-2007, 18:04
I say we rush the whole Arsenal team, it looks pretty certain that Arsene will leave and most likely the team will leave.

I say we go for Van Persie & Fabregas, who knows they might throw in Rosicky also. lol

Stitch
11-06-2007, 18:27
I say we rush the whole Arsenal team, it looks pretty certain that Arsene will leave and most likely the team will leave.

I say we go for Van Persie & Fabregas, who knows they might throw in Rosicky also. lol


no way man, they're too young for us :grinser: we need to wait for about ten years before they became milan material :grinser: