Winter Mercato

[GilAttack [11]]

I feel Messi is the only untouchable for Barcelona.
And Im sure there is something wrong there since Ronaldinho didnt bother to go to Nou Camp last weekend to watch his team/teammates.
For Barca fans it seems to be Messi > Eto'o > Ronaldinho

And for the record, I would rather add Eto'o than R10.

[rt9]

Etoo or R10? It depends on which formation we are going to play isnt it? If we play with two strikers, then my vote goes for Etoo. BUt if we play as we did in the latter stages of the CL, two playmakers and 1 striker, then definitely Ronaldinho is the best option. Imagine R10 and Kaka playing behind Pippo, Gila, or RO....

If you ask me, I would prefer playing with 1 striker and buying Ronaldinho..

[rosoneri_11]

Ace Drogba drops Chelsea exit bombshell
tribalfooball.com - June 11, 2007

Didier Drogba has stunned fans by admitting his Chelsea future is on a knife-edge.

The Ivory Coast striker admitted to The Sun: "I'm at the last big turning point of my career.

"It's time for one final big choice - should I stay or should I go? I am tempted to discover another world and to see what footballing life is like outside England.

"It would be a big disappointment if I never manage to play for teams that I dream of playing for. That would be terribly frustrating.

"Spain and Italy attract me a lot and, although I am a long way from saying farewell to Chelsea, you never know what can happen."

Drogba has concerns over the club's ambition following rows between owner Roman Abramovich and boss Jose Mourinho.

He added: "If I think the club lacks ambition, then it is sure I will not stay too long. I'm 29 and I don't have much time to lose.

"I believed in being loyal to a stable club. But it is clear that, in such matters, players don't control anything."
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Which one we should go better? Drogba or Eto????

[Hasan Rossonero]

Ace Drogba drops Chelsea exit bombshell
tribalfooball.com - June 11, 2007

Didier Drogba has stunned fans by admitting his Chelsea future is on a knife-edge.

The Ivory Coast striker admitted to The Sun: "I'm at the last big turning point of my career.

"It's time for one final big choice - should I stay or should I go? I am tempted to discover another world and to see what footballing life is like outside England.

"It would be a big disappointment if I never manage to play for teams that I dream of playing for. That would be terribly frustrating.

"Spain and Italy attract me a lot and, although I am a long way from saying farewell to Chelsea, you never know what can happen."

Drogba has concerns over the club's ambition following rows between owner Roman Abramovich and boss Jose Mourinho.

He added: "If I think the club lacks ambition, then it is sure I will not stay too long. I'm 29 and I don't have much time to lose.

"I believed in being loyal to a stable club. But it is clear that, in such matters, players don't control anything."
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Which one we should go better? Drogba or Eto????



:stupid: :str:

Actually this is also on calciomercato, so it may be true. Whenever I see tribalfootball.com, I react like this.

[zeshkani]

if eto & R10 coming in milano Kaka will go in Real Madrid

[zlatanov]

Which one we should go better? Drogba or Eto????
why not both :D
I doubt Drogba will leave CHelski this summer - should he do so, they would pay double for Etoo anyway - next summer, however, I would to see him leave for another team no matter what happens at Chelski (whether JM stays or not) as I think a new experience would be too tempting for him, something he's been talking about for almost a year now.

[Hasan Rossonero]

if eto & R10 coming in milano Kaka will go in Real Madrid

No.

Berlusconi will want all three of Ronaldinho, Kaka and Ronaldo at Milan. The Brazilian trio. I think he wants to recreate the magic of the Dutch trio.

[zlatanov]

if eto & R10 coming in milano Kaka will go in Real Madrid
not necessarily true - he's gonna leave a team with Ronaldo, Etoo, and Dinho in it and god knows who else and go play with who? A bunch of flops in the face of Robinho, Reyes, and all the other "paper" superstars?

getting both etoo and Dinho will hardly happen in the next couple of years at least anyway.

[hishamilan]

we must fight with juve over tiago < get barusso + lucho gonzales sooooon.......................

[hishamilan]

if marseille wants simic they can have him " in exchange of cana or taiwo or niang "

[zlatanov]

let me make a prediction:
within 1-2 months, Gila will be a Juventus player with possibly Trez and 7-8 mil coming the other way.

and guys, remember that you heard it here first :D

[mrki]

Possibile... but it is also possible that Milan will get Ronaldinho in the end and have Ronaldo,Pippo and Gila as forwards. That would mean Berlusconi's evil plan has worked again! buahahaha!

But Gila wants Juve, its clear, yes...

and, from calciomercato.it

Milan: spunta anche Makelele
MILANO - Il Milan per rinforzare il centrocampo, sta pensando all'esperto centrocampista del Chelsea Makelele. Il giocatore che a fine stagione si svincolerà a parametro zero però fa gola a molte società, su tutte Villareal e Psg. Il giocatore si è detto entusiasto dell'interessamente della società rossonera nei sui confronti.

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Please let this be true...he may be old but for a rotation player in the midfield he is perfect! Better solution than Emerson for sure. Makeleke is a hell of a player. :devf:

[Tony29.]

Eto'o is overrated!

Remember you heard this here first :)

I'm kidding, but i really don't rate Eto'o too high. He has pace, technique and he scores a lot, but i'm yet to see a player who's missing more clear chances than Eto'o.
I think he needs 5-7 100% chances to score one goal and i never liked attackers who can't score at least 50% of the chances they get.
Henry would have been better for Milan, eventhough he's 3 and a half years older than the African.


Edit : It wasn't a bad word, Mr. Moderator !!! :devf:

[zlatanov]

I like him a lot too but at 34 yo ... that's a bit too much even for Milan :D
considering the age factor, I would prefer Emerson, of course provided that the financial conditions would be favourable given that Makelele is a free agent this summer.
for younger players with similar qualities, favourite options of mine are Tiago and Barusso ... but I guess we'll see come late august or early september

[Tony29.]

Oh, and for those who still didn't see the other topic : Milan signed Ibrahim Ba who plays as a LB in last years.
Does this mean NO to Zambrotta :)

[Arildonardo]

Oh, and for those who still didn't see the other topic : Milan signed Ibrahim Ba who plays as a LB in last years.
Does this mean NO to Zambrotta :)
Hmmm... I think it's called charity. :grinser:

[rosoneri_11]

if marseille wants simic they can have him " in exchange of cana or taiwo or niang "
Or Nasri! The new French idol!

[zlatanov]

Eto'o is overrated!

Remember you heard this here first :)

I'm kidding, but i really don't rate Eto'o too high. He has pace, technique and he scores a lot, but i'm yet to see a player who's missing more clear chances than Eto'o.
I think he needs 5-7 100% chances to score one goal and i never liked attackers who can't score at least 50% of the chances they get.
Henry would have been better for Milan, eventhough he's 3 and a half years older than the African.
yes, they heard it here first but much earlier in this same thread ;)

the good thing about etoo is that he is a Big Game player, something I can't say with certainty about Henry as he is often AWOL when it matters most even in times when Arsenal were a formidable side.
Etoo also works a lot for the build-up of the attacks and has characteristics that Milan are missing after Sheva's departure - pace ... this is the first thing that Henry, at 29 closing in on 30, will lose very, very soon ... same goes for Sheva.

Age hurts most the players, who rely on their pace and agility, while those who rely on slower movement but good ball technique and distribution like Rui Costa, DP, Zidane etc, etc can be very effective even at an older age.
Of course there would be exceptions but in general that's how it goes.

So, if pace is what you are looking for, age is indeed a very imprortant factor when choosing players.

Also, depends on what the price of these players would be - if Henry was available for 10 mil, I would pick him over a 30-40 mil etoo, but chances are Henry will cost a good 20+ mil ... if that's the case, things change drastically in etoo's favour considering his age.

Of course that isn't to say that I am all for spending so much on a single player as there is always the chance that he wo't adjust well to changes and then you are left with basically an unchanged squad given that the one "refreshment" you relied on, has failed.
there are cheaper players out there who could give similar characteristics - like Suazo - but again, Etoo is a big game player, at 26 he's seen and done it all, while suazo might do it but might also stutter when the level of football changes from playing midtable serie A teams to CL SFs and finals.

But I agree - his scoring kind of worries me and makes me hope for a Trez in the squad too, although with Ronie and Pippo and Kaka around, and hopefully a scoring Gila too, that might not be problem and Etoo's abilities to open up defenses could come in handy.

[El Fre]

great post once again zlatanov, you said it all.....respect

[mrki]

Eto'o ismjust fine trust me, remember you heard that here first :grinser:

The man can really help us as he can convert himself to a LW very easy and you can see how much that helps Ronaldinho. That is why I like Eto'o so much, he can really help out in defence.

[rosoneri_11]

Also Eto has shown us that he don't loose his form after a big time injury!Big injuries doesn't effect him! That is very important for a player!

[zlatanov]

Eto'o ismjust fine trust me, remember you heard that here first :grinser:

now that I am pretty sure we've been hearing all season long :guw: :grinser:

tnx, El Fre :)

[Tony29.]

But I agree - his scoring kind of worries me and makes me hope for a Trez in the squad too, although with Ronie and Pippo and Kaka around, and hopefully a scoring Gila too, that might not be problem and Etoo's abilities to open up defenses could come in handy.
As much as i don't like Trez in Milan ( exchange with Gila) i think that of all the strikers in the world Trezeguet is the best option. Not only Milan will save money, but you can even end up with few M euro.

Milan will lose Gilardino but will get what you lack since the time Pippo played on every match.
Ronaldo and Kaka can open up defenses while Trez is the best ( together with RVN) in putting the ball in the net.
Milan will get a man who almost never misses a chance, who's great in the air, has powerfull right and left foot.
With every long ball Pirlo, Janku or Oddo put in the box there is a huge chance Trez will score.
With every magical pass Ronaldo and Kaka will make, there is a huge chance Trez will be at the right place to score.
I was always saying how Trez won so many matches when Juve was bad. Juve didn't have a creative player and there were times when the team managed to make only 1 or 2 chances during the match. But thankfully it was Trezeguet up front and he was Juve's guarantee that even one chance during the match could be enough.
Now imagine what can a player like Trez do in a team that creates ~10 chances per match. Juve didn't have a magician like Kaka, Pirlo or Ronaldo and Trez was still scoring 20 goals per season.
Hey, if Trez goes to Milan i'll dare say now that Milan is the champion of 2007/08 serie A season.

Also, Trezeguet is a long term buy, as impossible as it sounds. Like Zlat rightfully said, age counts a lot for players like Henry, Eto'o or for a full back.
But for someone like Trez, how much does age counts ? He didn't run a lot even when he was 21. Actually, i think he runs now as much as he did 8 years ago, and he can run as much even when he'll be 34.
But the feeling for scoring goals and put himself in the right position will be there even when he'll be a veteran player.


The only bad thing about this is Gilardino's departure. I rate the kid high and i think he won't always play like he did in 2006/07. If Gila gets back to his old self, then there's no need of Trez and also no need of Eto'o or Henry.

[rosoneri_11]

Many players after a big time injury can make a month or many months to find again their good form.Some others doesn't find it for erver.
Eto's injuries doesn't effect his form!

[Arildonardo]

More on Eto'o:

http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jun12j.html

[peters]

i really don't rate Eto'o too high. He has pace, technique and he scores a lot, but i'm yet to see a player who's missing more clear chances than Eto'o.
My minds exactly. He shoots head-down and misses a LOT (or directly into GK). He can be pichichi in barcelona when he can waste chances like theres no tomorrow but still bags 24 goals in a season. I dont think he can do that in milan, since here he would get less chances. Also, spanish league has big holes in defence imo oppose to tighter and stronger italian back line. But he is fast, he works alot and goes back for ball. Still he can flop at milan like oliveira.

And there is Henry, that i dont like because of his mentality (actually, all players under wenger more than 3 years tends to be big-headed crybabies, imo ;) )

My pick would be drogba > etoo > henry. I think we desperately need one of the trio, since as for now, i dont trust gila.

[Marino]

I prefer Didier over Eto'o anyday.

[Warro Bantan]

Tony, why are you so certain that Gila will leave? Didnt we just have "peace" talks with the player? Didnt everyone come from the meeting saying that he will honour his contract, and that he doesnt want to leave?

Or are you just hoping that he will leave for Juve?

As far as I recall, the price tag was out of Juve´s range....especially if they dont get good money for Trez...

Plus, Galliani has "rubbished" any talk of a swap between the two...

So I beg you to tell me why u think Gila will be a Juve player next year...and how much are you betting on it as well...(that will be the true indicator I think) :D

[Milan_Mad]

Tony theres no way we would go for Trez wake up mate we are going for bigger targets i see Trez leaving for Lyon :devf:

My 1st target would be Eto'o, Henry then Drogba but it would be a dream to get anyone one of these

[Tony29.]

Tony, why are you so certain that Gila will leave? Didnt we just have "peace" talks with the player? Didnt everyone come from the meeting saying that he will honour his contract, and that he doesnt want to leave?

Or are you just hoping that he will leave for Juve?

As far as I recall, the price tag was out of Juve´s range....especially if they dont get good money for Trez...

Plus, Galliani has "rubbished" any talk of a swap between the two...

So I beg you to tell me why u think Gila will be a Juve player next year...and how much are you betting on it as well...(that will be the true indicator I think) :D
Why do you think i'm certain Gila will leave ?
I say that if Trez goes to Milan it will mean Gila will leave ( because Juve say they'll never sell Trez to an Italian team, but many think Juve menagment will accept Trez to Milan in case Milan offers Gila to Juve).
Actually, i'm one of those who think Gila could stay with Milan !
And i'd give my right hand for Gila to stay in Milan and , what's more important, Trezeguet to stay in Juve.

The ones who are certain Gila will leave are Zlatanov and Mrki
Punish them for their blasphemy Warren :)

[Warro Bantan]

Sorry Tony :D !!

I dont kno where Zlat got his info from then...or mrki for that matter...but what I do kno is that both parties (Gila and Galliani) seemed sure that no move was in the offing...but we all know how those things can go...

[Warro Bantan]

Just to further underscore my point:

http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jun12l.html

[zlatanov]

this is exactly what will make the surprise even bigger ... let's just give it time and we'll see ;)
:D

[Bosniaco]

Man this sucks, everyone is doing somthing on the market but Milan is sitting still. Inter is going for Tevez,great player, they are also going for few youngsters. Right now Inter has a better squad then Milan as it is, and yet they are still looking for new player but we are fine with our over 30 players :(

Our targets are the players that are saying they dont want to leave their clubs.

[Warro Bantan]

Bosniaco, relax dude...what else do u expect players:
a) Still under contract
b) with a title decider in their next match, to say exactly?
(i.e. Etoo and Ronaldinho)

Henry has noted our interest, and is "flattered" by it...but, he wants to see what Arsenal plan to do to reinforce the team before he makes a decision either way.

Etoo...well, we will pay him a lot more than he earns at Barca, and who wouldnt want to join the European Champions?

The transfer window has just opened, and we have until Sept. I think, to make transfers, so its early days yet..and no real, MAJOR moves have taken place, apart from a few nobodies in the UK moving between clubs, and Man Us aquisitions of two starlets, who are just young enough to flop, as Veron et al did making the move to Manchester...so relax, enjoy the summer sun, drink some lemonade, and prepare for a long wait.

In the words of a famous song:

We´ve only just begun...

[Arildonardo]

Man this sucks, everyone is doing somthing on the market but Milan is sitting still. Inter is going for Tevez,great player, they are also going for few youngsters. Right now Inter has a better squad then Milan as it is, and yet they are still looking for new player but we are fine with our over 30 players :(

Our targets are the players that are saying they dont want to leave their clubs.
Hmmm... So when tribalfootball.com (!!!) writes about Tevez to Inter, they are active on the market? And when all newspapers write about Milan being interested in Henry, Ronaldinho, Shevchenko, Eto'o, Drogba, Zambrotta, Thiago, Edmilson they're doing nothing? I don't get this.

It's silly season, the big clubs are always linked to hundreds of players but end up with only 2 or 3... Get used to it!

[Tony29.]

Hmmm... So when tribalfootball.com (!!!) writes about Tevez to Inter, they are active on the market? And when all newspapers write about Milan being interested in Henry, Ronaldinho, Shevchenko, Eto'o, Drogba, Zambrotta, Thiago, Edmilson they're doing nothing? I don't get this.

It's silly season, the big clubs are always linked to hundreds of players but end up with only 2 or 3... Get used to it!
You know what's really important for the transfer market Arildonardo ?
You and i share the same birthday :diablo:
I always liked you and thought you're a smart fellow. Now i see why.

[hitmannq8]

Well in Inter's case they usually end up with 6 or 7 new players :D

@Bosnacio: Inter has had the best squad in the world for all of the past 5 years - but wats the point if they can't play well together? they have no balance, no team work, no experience. There are other things that are more important than buying just any good player.

[zlatanov]

You know what's really important for the transfer market Arildonardo ?
You and i share the same birthday :diablo:
I always liked you and thought you're a smart fellow. Now i see why.
... and since balance is in everything, the same day brought MM one good egg and one bad egg :D

[Arildonardo]

You know what's really important for the transfer market Arildonardo ?
You and i share the same birthday :diablo:
I always liked you and thought you're a smart fellow. Now i see why.
Thanks mate!

Magical date, I know... :dielaugh:

[Arildonardo]

... and since balance is in everything, the same day brought MM one good egg and one bad egg :D
I'm not going to ask who's who. I don't want to risk experiencing "the Inter-feeling", or disappointment if you will... :5ok:

[King tiger]

calcio mercato . com, bad news :(

L'attaccante del Barcellona Samuel Eto`o ha chiuso definitivamente le porte al Milan.
Questa mattina Eto`o, nel corso di un evento promozionale, ha parlato del suo futuro: "Sono io a decidere il mio futuro perche` il club non mi puo` licenziare. Io ho gia` detto di voler restare al Barcellona, cosi` come il mio rappresentante. Non so cosa devo dire oltre a questo. Henry? Non ci credo finche` non lo vedo. Con lui formeremmo un attacco davvero incredibile".

[Marino]

Milan should definately get Alexandre Pato.

[rosoneri_11]

calcio mercato . com, bad news :(

can anyone translate that?

[rosoneri_11]

Milan should definately get Alexandre Pato.

I agree with you 100%!We should sign that wonder kid!

[zlatanov]

I'm not going to ask who's who. I don't want to risk experiencing "the Inter-feeling", or disappointment if you will... :5ok:
let's just say that one egg is painted red and black while the other is white and black ... that should make it easier to tell who's who :grinser:

[Arildonardo]

let's just say that one egg is painted red and black while the other is white and black ... that should make it easier to tell who's who :grinser:
Then I surely know who's who! :p017:

[Marino]

I agree with you 100%!We should sign that wonder kid!i gotta tell you bro, I did watch the last 3 Internacional games and Pato were absurdly good.

[Tony29.]

can anyone translate that?
Eto'o says he has absolutely no intention to leave Barcelona and he has closed the door for Milan.
He says he wants to stay with Barcelona and the club (Barcelona) can't decide his future and sell him.

[Bosniaco]

I see all the players linked to us but thats just rubbish, I only read that Galliani said that we are interested in signing Eto ( who does not want to come) and Emerson (a 30 year old player who already played for the big clubs like Juventus and Real madrid)

Ok guys, I understand what you all said, but our problem is not only in the attack. What about the defence? What I want is more young blood, good young players. Favalli, Cafu, Costacurta ( is gone), Serginho, and Maldini cant play anymore. We know all the problems we had in the defence. So we need few young players in the defence. Midfield is ok as it is, maybe just someone to replace Brochi and add one more midfielder. We also need at least two strikers in place for Boriello and Oliveira. I dono what is going to happen but everyday I come home I rush to the computer to check if there is anything new, and its always not much :(

[zlatanov]

no need to push the panic button so early, guys, right now we are gonna be reading all sorts of "I wanna stay" statements ... and etoo isn't the only option or necessarily the best option out there.
In the end, Milan will have 4-5 new players, just sit back, relax - but not too much :D - and enjoy the thrill of the show :)

[Arildonardo]

Remember, the transfer window isn't open yet...

[hitmannq8]

zlat - u really think we'll have 4-5? not 2-3?

arildonardo - didnt it open 1st of june?

[Warro Bantan]

Just got this from Skysports.com:

http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=470975&CPID=21&clid=120&lid=8&title=Rossoneri+resolve+Gila+row

Meanwhile, Milan have offered a one-week trial to Snostorp Nyhem's 17-year-old starlet Joe Sise.

Anyone kno/heard of this Sise chap?

[zlatanov]

zlat - u really think we'll have 4-5? not 2-3?

arildonardo - didnt it open 1st of june?
yeah, I think overall we'll have 4-5 new players of whom 2-3 would be important names in the business.

@ Warro
not sure if that article says it but I think that guy is a youth international and plays for this 2nd or 3rd division club in Sweden ... he is supposedly doing well in the international formation though ... and believe he is a striker from the "big-framed" ones, not entirely sure though.

[zlatanov]

Gazzetta:
Calcio: Empoli, Marzoratti e Pozzi restano
Indice Ultim'ora

EMPOLI (Firenze) - Nicola Pozzi e Lino Marzoratti giocheranno anche la prossima stagione con l'Empoli. La societa' toscana ha infatti raggiunto l'accordo con il Milan - proprietario dei cartellini dei due giocatori - per un altro anno di prestito della punta e del difensore, che cosi' potranno giocare con maggior continuita'. Per Marzoratti il prestito si e' addirittura trasformato in compartecipazione, dato che l'Empoli ha acquistato dal Milan la meta' del cartellino del giocatore. (Agr)

says that Pozzi and Marzorati will remain at Empoli for one more year on loan and that half of Marzorati's right will go to Empoli as part of the deal.

[Warro Bantan]

Thanks Zlat...so he is a buy for the future then, if he impresses...

On the Etoo issue: I recall several impassioned statements from a certain Ukrainian international, that he wasnt leaving Milan, almost up to the week of his departure...so I will take, Etoo´s, Henry´s and Ronaldinho´s insistence that they will be staying with their clubs, with a warehouse full of salt, not a pinch, as I used to.

(Sure to raise my blood pressure, but at this point, I need it!! :D )

[Graeme C]

yeah we need 4-5 new players to stay competitive for next season, a defender or 2, midfield and wide player. And a new striker..

If we cant get Eto then we should stop barca from getting Henry. If not theres always Torres, and Quagliarella

[Bosniaco]

yeah, I think overall we'll have 4-5 new players of whom 2-3 would be important names in the business.

@ Warro
not sure if that article says it but I think that guy is a youth international and plays for this 2nd or 3rd division club in Sweden ... he is supposedly doing well in the international formation though ... and believe he is a striker from the "big-framed" ones, not entirely sure though.
Here some fact for whoever understands this haha

Namn: Joe Sise Name
Längd: 194 cm Height
Moderklubb: Snöstorp/Nyhem Club
Position: Anfallare/yttermittfältare Position: I think is foward
Matcher/Mål: 8 / 4 This maybe the games played and goals scored :)

[zlatanov]

just 17 yo and at 1.94cm tall, this guy is defintely a big-framed player ... and is likely to grow even taller :D

[Bosniaco]

Here is also the italian verison :)

Secondo il quotidiano svedese Aftonbladet, il Milan avrebbe offerto un provino ad una giovane stellina svedese, Joe Sise, 17 anni. Attaccante di origini gambiane alto 1.92m, Sise gioca in terza divisione con lo Snöstorp Nyhem ed avrebbe impressionato un osservatore rossonero in un recente camp della nazionale giovanile svedese: sulla stampa svedese, Sise è ritratto come un prospetto molto interessante, molto dotato sia atleticamente visto le sue lunghe leve ma anche tecnicamente, e fa dell' uno-contro-uno la sua forza.

[rosoneri_11]

no need to push the panic button so early, guys, right now we are gonna be reading all sorts of "I wanna stay" statements ... and etoo isn't the only option or necessarily the best option out there.
In the end, Milan will have 4-5 new players, just sit back, relax - but not too much :D - and enjoy the thrill of the show :)


You are right Zlat.Milan shown us this season that even if our transfers was not what we expected, and our form at the start of the season was very very bad.....finaly they conviced us that we can win trophies even with not good transfer season, or other problems!
I don't care who is going to come, even if ibrahim ba is gona come i know that Milan again will be a top club, palying in semifinal or at the final of CL and making a good campionato or win the campionato.
Don't care,Milan always find solutions for their problems.

[Warp05]

Hey, i heard, that is i read on tribalfootball, that Ibrahim Ba is going to sign a one-year deal with a Milan....

I havent heard something that hilarious for a years.... silly season...


:w221:

[hany.Egypt]

:d55: [Here is also the italian verison

Secondo il quotidiano svedese Aftonbladet, il Milan avrebbe offerto un provino ad una giovane stellina svedese, Joe Sise, 17 anni. Attaccante di origini gambiane alto 1.92m, Sise gioca in terza divisione con lo Snöstorp Nyhem ed avrebbe impressionato un osservatore rossonero in un recente camp della nazionale giovanile svedese: sulla stampa svedese, Sise è ritratto come un prospetto molto interessante, molto dotato sia atleticamente visto le sue lunghe leve ma anche tecnicamente, e fa dell' uno-contro-uno la sua forza
translation????????????????? :d55:

[Giorgos]

no need to push the panic button so early, guys, right now we are gonna be reading all sorts of "I wanna stay" statements ... and etoo isn't the only option or necessarily the best option out there.
In the end, Milan will have 4-5 new players, just sit back, relax - but not too much :D - and enjoy the thrill of the show :)

Everybody say that they will stay to the clubs that they belong to :), come on, Don't forget that the Spanish league hasn't ended yet. What do you expect Eto'o to say that he will join Milan when they have one game left and they are behind Real?.

Dihno, Henry the same.... so... :).

[Hasan Rossonero]

:d55:
translation????????????????? :d55:

It says that Milan are going to sell their entire frontline and bank on this new Swedish phenomenon.

Not only that, it goes on to say that in the future Milan will only play with strikers who are above 6 feet tall.

In other developments all players in Milan under 72 inches are seeking legal remedy for this perceived discrimination.

:d55: <--- is indeed right.

[rosoneri_11]

Everybody say that they will stay to the clubs that they belong to :), come on, Don't forget that the Spanish league hasn't ended yet. What do you expect Eto'o to say that he will join Milan when they have one game left and they are behind Real?.

Dihno, Henry the same.... so... :).
Yes the same like Sheva. "I will never leave milan, i want to end my carrier here at milan like Maldini" and next day he was wearing the chelsea's shirt.

[Tony29.]

I didn't have time to properly translate the article about Eto'o and to explain it.

This is the catch... He says he wants to stay with Barcelona and then he says he can't be fired from the club and sold just like that.
It means : He probably thinks, or has heard, how Barcelona wants to sell him. His wish is to stay with Barcelona and not to be sold.

Then he continues about Thierry Henry and he says how he and Henry could work well.
This shows why is Eto'o scared. He knows how Barcelona is close to signing Henry and he's affraid Henry will be the reason for his departure. That's why he says how there will be no need for Barca to sell him because Eto'o-Henry can work very well.

I think Eto'o really wants to stay with Barcelona but i don't think he'll lock himself in Camp nou dressing rooms and refuse to leave Barcelona.
He'll prefer to stay in Barcelona but eventhough he says Barcelona can't sell him just like that and he sounds like he wont leave them for anything in the world, i'm sure he'll accept to leave at the end...especially if the team after him is Milan, or some other giant.

[Warro Bantan]

By saying that he wants to stay with Barca, he is, without actually saying the words, saying the following:

Milan better pay me a whole lot of money, or I will do a "Saviola"..and stay and "fight" for my place...

Though if he bargains too hard, we will simply switch focus to Ronaldinho...:D

[mrki]

We all need to have in mind that Berlusconi all this time actually wants Ronaldinho... And that is all that matters in Milan.

[sveto]

bring sheva back, that's all we need in regard our offence
Ronaldo-Sheva at front
Kaka and Seedorf behind them......Inter, you better be trembling

[Tony29.]

Hey , check the first post. Looks like you and Real are related now. :)
Now some swaps and players exchange between the 2 clubs will go more smoothly
http://forum.bettingadvice.com/viewtopic.php?t=65006

I know it's totally off topic but it didn't deserve a separate thread

[Warro Bantan]

Hey , check the first post. Looks like you and Real are related now. :)
That sure made your day didnt it Tony! :5ok:

[zlatanov]

By saying that he wants to stay with Barca, he is, without actually saying the words, saying the following:

Milan better pay me a whole lot of money, or I will do a "Saviola"..and stay and "fight" for my place...

Though if he bargains too hard, we will simply switch focus to Ronaldinho...:D
latest reports claim that Saviola has signed with Real M, so not much of a threat there by Etoo :D

[mrki]

Do you guys know how old is Di Gennaro?? WIll he be promoted in senior squad? From what I've seen of him, he looks promising.

Emerson will be a helpfull player for us, after he goes through summer prepeparations in Milanello he'll be ready like he was two years back. With him we have excellent mix of midfielders and Im only worried on who can play in Kaka's role sometimes.

After Emerson, we'll need some time to snatch Eto'o...and then in the end it will be Zambrotta for icing on the cake! :)

[kris]

Do you guys know how old is Di Gennaro?? WIll he be promoted in senior squad? From what I've seen of him, he looks promising.


Most likely will be loaned out. hopefully to a club where he gets to play a lot.

[mrki]

Juve signed G.Milito for 20 mil euro. Great player if you ask me, not as good as Nesta or Cannavaro of course, but great player indeed. And Trez may be heading to Arsenal...

[kastriot]

Do you guys know how old is Di Gennaro?? WIll he be promoted in senior squad? From what I've seen of him, he looks promising.

Emerson will be a helpfull player for us, after he goes through summer prepeparations in Milanello he'll be ready like he was two years back. With him we have excellent mix of midfielders and Im only worried on who can play in Kaka's role sometimes.

After Emerson, we'll need some time to snatch Eto'o...and then in the end it will be Zambrotta for icing on the cake! :)

Cant imagine how happy you will be after or if we sign ZAMBRO, you are mentioning him in every single post you right!!! :grinser:

Have to say he would e a great singing,gives a lot of options in Carlos tactics...his probably the best option for the flanks...far better than Oddo,janku and the other linked to us

[Samuca]

Every season there are lot of players linked to Milan and in the end no one of them goes too

I think Milan is trying Zambrotta, Barzagli and Pazzini

It´s tipical of Milan, Zambrotta wanna go back to spanish so Milan is trying to take advantage, Barzagli will be the Bonera of this season and Pazzini will be the Gilardino

Ricardo Oliveira shall live Milan and please Galliani, be a good boy and send him to São Paulo

[zlatanov]

and Tuncay Sanli has reportedly signed for Middlesbrough:
http://www.calciomercato.it/dettaglioNewsCategoria.asp?hdnIdCategoria=2&hdnId=8767

[kris]

Juve signed G.Milito for 20 mil euro. Great player if you ask me, not as good as Nesta or Cannavaro of course, but great player indeed. And Trez may be heading to Arsenal...

1. state source.
2. Do not say something like it is finished when it is only a rumour.

As it is this comes from the most unreliable "as" and is not confirmed in any way.

[zlatanov]

Juve signed G.Milito for 20 mil euro. Great player if you ask me, not as good as Nesta or Cannavaro of course, but great player indeed. And Trez may be heading to Arsenal...
I think it's not official yet although by the words of his agent Milito seems to be all done with Zaragoza and has his mind set on Juve.
even he however expects that it might take another week before the deal is done:
http://www.calciomercato.com/index.php?c=21&a=45686

[Tony29.]

1. state source.
2. Do not say something like it is finished when it is only a rumour.

As it is this comes from the most unreliable "as" and is not confirmed in any way.
He can't state a source about definite deal because (if i'm right) no transfer will be official until July 1st.

AS isn't unreliable as many of you think. There is subjectivity and wishfull thinking when Real Madrid is concerned but when they inform about the other La Liga teams they are (almost) always right about their transfers.
And this isn't only a rumour because the agent says how Zaragoza accepted 20m Euro ( while Milito already accepted Juve's offer 3 weeks ago) and how Milito is determined to leave Zaragoza for Juve.
It's a 99% done deal and i leave 1% only in case he won't pass the medicals or some unexpected change of mind in next few days in Juve or Zaragoza.

[mrki]

I just saw TG24 and those are the news: ( from what I've understood...)
- first there was an interwiew with Moratti who said they are close to Suazo and they like Tevez very much. also, they are negotiating with Roma about Pizzaro deal and Mancini like Chivu. Recoba is heading to Spain while Adriano's future is uncertain.
- Milan's target is Emerson who will have medical on monday, and also on monday Galliani is flying off to Spain for Eto'o negotiations.
- Juve signed Milito, Almiron and Iaquinta. Camoranesi is 50% certain to stay and Trez is on his way out so far...
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the end :)

[Kaka1899]

I just saw TG24 and those are the news: ( from what I've understood...)
- first there was an interwiew with Moratti who said they are close to Suazo and they like Tevez very much. also, they are negotiating with Roma about Pizzaro deal and Mancini like Chivu. Recoba is heading to Spain while Adriano's future is uncertain.
- Milan's target is Emerson who will have medical on monday, and also on monday Galliani is flying off to Spain for Eto'o negotiations.
- Juve signed Milito, Almiron and Iaquinta. Camoranesi is 50% certain to stay and Trez is on his way out so far...
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the end :)

Thanks for The roundup mrki :5ok:

[Ghost]

I have felt like this every summer, I know alot of people will say its only June but I was like this last year, then came July & then August & we got RO. I know I shouldnt act like this because the situation is different to last year but I cant see anything happening. I know the only strikers we would sign would be:

Eto - Who clearly has declared his love for Barca and wont leave,
Henry - Im not sure what happening about him, however if Wenger gets Trez then we can forget about Henry as im sure he would stay and partner him.
Sheva - Its a step backwards if you ask me but its still a striker and I doubt RA would let him come back.

With the likes of Inter getting Sauzo we get urmmm?

[Kaka1899]

I have felt like this every summer, I know alot of people will say its only June but I was like this last year, then came July & then August & we got RO. I know I shouldnt act like this because the situation is different to last year but I cant see anything happening. I know the only strikers we would sign would be:

Eto - Who clearly has declared his love for Barca and wont leave,
Henry - Im not sure what happening about him, however if Wenger gets Trez then we can forget about Henry as im sure he would stay and partner him.
Sheva - Its a step backwards if you ask me but its still a striker and I doubt RA would let him come back.

With the likes of Inter getting Sauzo we get urmmm?

yeah i have a similar feeling how come Inter and Juve can sign players and we are European Champions and we get who? Emerson and nobody as yet

[Tony75]

We signed BA. All is well.

[Tony29.]

Errr, again...
Milan can't compare themselves with Juve.
Milan has Kaka, Pirlo, Gattuso, Ronaldo, Nesta etc....all world class, while Juve has a lot of job to do and many players to buy to become competitive to teams much weaker than Milan.
It's normal Juve to buy more players than Milan, it's nothing shameful.

As for Inter...every year they buy more than Milan, why should it be any different now ?

Milan has 3-4 holes to fill in ( mostly replacements) and they'll be competitive in Italy, Europe, World.
I don't understand why do you guys start panicking so early. Emerson is done deal, an attacker will probably be bought, a defender...and the job for Milan is done !
Why should Milan buy more world class players when you already have world's best in almost every position ?

[hany.Egypt]

Thanks Hasan

[Tony75]

Errr, again...
Milan has 3-4 holes to fill in ( mostly replacements) and they'll be competitive in Italy, Europe, World.
I don't understand why do you guys start panicking so early. Emerson is done deal, an attacker will probably be bought, a defender...and the job for Milan is done !
Why should Milan buy more world class players when you already have world's best in almost every position ?
You mean like Dida, Janku, Oliveira, & Gilardino?
We have an old team, and if it's not fixed within this summers and next summers transfer windows we'll end up like back in 97 & 98 seasons.

[scudeto4milan]

Drogba is almost 30yo, and would be very expensive for that age. If we could get him for about 10-13mil €, i wouldn't mind.
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he is almost 30 and not good enough for the rossoneri.

[Hasan Rossonero]

Thanks Hasan

Hahaha...bro I was joking with that translation.

It basically says that Milan have offered a trial to 17-year-old Jose Sise, who plays in the third division (in Sweden) for a side named Snöstorp Nyhem.

[zlatanov]

tissues anyone?
they are environment-friendly, so grab them by the dosen (although I a sure you will come back for more) .... anyone? tissues, please!


:grinser:

[Milan_Mad]

You mean like Dida, Janku, Oliveira, & Gilardino?
We have an old team, and if it's not fixed within this summers and next summers transfer windows we'll end up like back in 97 & 98 seasons.Janku needs replacing for sure if we are to be stonger then last season hes a midfielder playing at LB whos horrible at defending

[Tony29.]

I don't have a source to confirm this so i wonder if some of you have heard about it :

"Fiorentina offered Bojinov+15m for Gilardino"

[zlatanov]

I read about the 15 mil but nothing was mentioned about Bojinov ... also, Corvino is rumoured to be considering Cavenaghi, who'd be a lot cheaper, I guess.

[Tony29.]

http://www.fiorentina.it/notizia.asp?IDNotizia=50640

This is what i found. It's from today

[Blacktop]

http://www.fiorentina.it/notizia.asp?IDNotizia=50640

This is what i found. It's from today
That's not the official Fiorentina site, though.

It basically says that Milan have offered a trial to 17-year-old Jose Sise, who plays in the third division (in Sweden) for a side named Snöstorp Nyhem.
I read that on R&B too. The biggest pile of BS I've heard all year.

[Warro Bantan]

Milan are not about to rush out and buy a player, just because we need to...we are in demand as a club now, a very different situation to last season, when no one really wanted to join us.

As Tony29 has said, we have world class players in almost every position...the few reinforcements that we need, we will get, this I am sure of.

Etoo can make as much noise as he wants...if Barca says he can leave, or sit on the bench all of next season, he will leave...and Milan will make a bid that Barca wont refuse methinks.

It is early days yet...so get ready for a long wait...Milan are in no rush, and good players are not falling from the sky...we will go for a very difficult mix to find in a player: Experience, ability, and availability...

Some here will say, we need youth! We are an old team...well this old team just won the UCL title...with forwards who didnt even get into double figures in that tournament...and only Serginho, Maldini and Cafu are really "old" in all honesty...so a midfielder, (to replace il concorde) a RB, and a CB should be on the list...and a forward to replace Oli or Boriello...3 or 4 players.

Players are knocking on our doors, we dont have to chase anyone (excpet Etoo, who should be worth a chase), so please, lets all take a deep breath, and relax, or take up Zlats offer of tissue, as there is a ways yet to go, before the window closes...and I see the Etoo saga dragging out almost as long as Gila´s did.

[Tony29.]

That's not the official Fiorentina site, though.

I know !
I read about Boji+15m and i searched for any source. This was the only thing i could find.
But it's nothing serious and i'm sure there wasn't such offer.
If you read the full article : http://www.fiorentina.it/notizia.asp?IDNotizia=50638&IDCategoria=1
you'll see that this news came from some : quotidiano.net (il sito de La Nazione e dei giornali Monti Riffeser collegati)
And the author of the article in fiorentina.it gives good reasons why Gilardino to Fiorentina is almost impossible to happen.

[zlatanov]

some good point'sthere Warro ;)

... or take up Zlats offer of tissue ...

whoever choses to follow this route, please don't forget to recycle ... the unused ones, of course ... not that there will be any :grinser:

... as there is a ways yet to go, before the window closes ...
the funny thing about it is that window hasn't even been opened yet :diablo:

[Nalx]

just 17 yo and at 1.94cm tall, this guy is defintely a big-framed player ... and is likely to grow even taller :D
grow some cm again and we'll have a new Michael Jordan :grinser:

[Bosniaco]

Wow Inter have signed Suazo a very good buy, now they have Ibra, Suazo, Crespo, Cruz !! Thats some good attack.

[Tony29.]

Wow Inter have signed Suazo a very good buy, now they have Ibra, Suazo, Crespo, Cruz !! Thats some good attack.
and Adriano


One of them will leave, i guess. And maybe it's better if all of them stay in Inter. We could always see a good Ibra-Adriano vs Crespo-Cruz-Suazo fight ! :grinser:

[Bosniaco]

and Adriano


One of them will leave, i guess. And maybe it's better if all of them stay in Inter. We could always see a good Ibra-Adriano vs Crespo-Cruz-Suazo fight ! :grinser:
Dude this is some world class attack, these are great Strikers. This sucks for other teams....

[Bosniaco]

I know !
I read about Boji+15m and i searched for any source. This was the only thing i could find.
But it's nothing serious and i'm sure there wasn't such offer.
If you read the full article : http://www.fiorentina.it/notizia.asp?IDNotizia=50638&IDCategoria=1
you'll see that this news came from some : quotidiano.net (il sito de La Nazione e dei giornali Monti Riffeser collegati)
And the author of the article in fiorentina.it gives good reasons why Gilardino to Fiorentina is almost impossible to happen.
Tony the source for this is TuttoMercato Web I read it there

[GilAttack [11]]

So Tevez wont be joining them, huh?

[hitmannq8]

any likelihood of gettin Cannavaro?

nesta-cannavaro would be omg.. ahh nevermind it won't happen


and inter continue their tradition of buying strikers every year.. recoba is out, and now they have:
adriano, cruz, crespo, suazo, ibrahimovic and they are interested in bringin in Tevez..i also always had a feelin they will eventually end up with Cassano (his mentality is perfect for Inter)..

i think we will go for either Adriano or Tevez..i doubt it'll be Tevez cuz we wudda gone for him last year..

[Giorgos]

And Gila wants to leave because we have Oli, Pippo, RO, Boriel...

[hitmannq8]

Milan Galliani 'Acquisti? Non voglio illudere i tifosi'

22:01 del 13 giugno

Adriano Galliani frena gli entusiasmi dei tifosi del Milan sul mercato. Intervenuto a ‘Qui Studio a Voi Stadio’, trasmissione sportiva dell’emittente Telelombardia, ha cercato di glissare, a margine di un torneo di beneficenza in corso a San Siro, riguardo alle domande legate ai nuovi attaccanti: ”Non voglio creare illusioni ai nostri tifosi. E’ possibile che arrivi qualcuno, ma anche che non arrivi nessuno, mentre rimarranno tutti i big”.
Quindi sui singoli non si è sbilanciato, escludendo pero' un possibile arrivo di Quagliarella: ”Quagliarella? Se ci sarà da rafforzare l’attacco i nomi sono quelli che conoscete. Nel Milan della prossima stagione ci sarà Ronaldo, che giochera` anche la Champions, Pippo Inzaghi, Gilardino e Oliveira”.Quindi ha rassicurato sulla posizione di Gilardino: ”E’ tutto a posto davanti ed è tutto a posto con Gilardino”.

www.calciomercato.com

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in summary galliani says he does not want to promise any names because the fans might end disappointed.. he doesnt want to deceive the fans (as if he never has)..

he then says that our strike force will remain ronaldo, pippo, gila, oliveira..he said somethin about Quagliarella that i really couldn't get but i dont think he ruled out signing him nor did he say that he will go for him..

[Warro Bantan]

This is some interesting news:

http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jun13o.html

Seems as if Sir Ronnie of Bucktooth is closer than we thought!! I for one would probably prefer Etoo, but Ronaldinho...sheesh..whats not to like?

Though older, I think he would fit Carlo´s tactical set up better, as he and Kaka could play behind a single striker, of course, at Seedorfs expense...but we cannot expect Clarence, at his age, to play all the games we will face this season.

As for Inter´s overpopulation of strikers...I could care less...:D

[Warro Bantan]

hitmannq8, my Alta Vista translation leads me to believe that Quagliarela could be a possibility...but then again, its notorious for misleading me! :grinser:

[Graeme C]

any likelihood of gettin Cannavaro?

nesta-cannavaro would be omg.. ahh nevermind it won't happen

..


lol someones reading this forum, sorry for the naff translation from tuttomercatoweb

Cannavaro: messages of love to the Milan
13.06.2007 20,26 of Francisco Joy read article 5525 times
According to the writing of Sportime, tg sport of Sky Sport, the defender of the Real Madrid would be sending through the rossonero intermediary for the Spanish market, Ernesto Bronzetti, “messages of love” to the Milan: the defender completely has not gotten used in Spain and would want to return in Series To in a prestigious club that can allow its oneroso engages of 4 million annual ones.

[Graeme C]

hitmannq8, my Alta Vista translation leads me to believe that Quagliarela could be a possibility...but then again, its notorious for misleading me! :grinser:

i would be happy with him, if you consider he has already played with members of our squad "inzaghi, gattuso, pirlo, Ambro, Oddo" and has Seria A experience. Hes 23 and has alot of potential + he sort of looks Brazilian :devf:

[remote2book]

WTF is going on ......y didnt we get suazo??????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and tuncay signed with middlesborough every player we r "Linked" with sings with some1 else wtf this is stupid we better get eto'o oe R10...

[mrki]

Man how Galliani can lie! First says we will sign a striker, than that we will not, hahaha, tipical Galliani. Ronaldinho, Eto'o, Henry - who really cares, bring someone good up front! And if Canna reeeealy wants to come, get him too for fun :)

[_MaJi_tz]

Galliani shut up and bring us what you promise

[remote2book]

iam mad abt suazo signing with inter....he is soooo fasttttttt we could have really used him....by da way wat was da deal? how much did he go

[Graeme C]

if Oliviera is in the squad for next season i will he hugely disapointed, considering we kicked out players like Tomasson who in my opinion was alot better!

[OCmilano]

Ok he is gone, english team picked him up....

[peters]

Since Gila, RO, r99, and inzaghi are all staying why even bother with new attacker (we arent inter right)? Our defence is complete with BA and if we snatch ronaldinho then we can close the market instantly...

pass me the tissue please :zany:

[Mystik]

This is some interesting news:

http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jun13o.html

Seems as if Sir Ronnie of Bucktooth is closer than we thought!! I for one would probably prefer Etoo, but Ronaldinho...sheesh..whats not to like?

Though older, I think he would fit Carlo´s tactical set up better, as he and Kaka could play behind a single striker, of course, at Seedorfs expense...but we cannot expect Clarence, at his age, to play all the games we will face this season.

As for Inter´s overpopulation of strikers...I could care less...:D
Warro what's not not to like(try to figure that one out) about us signing someone who's consistently missing/walking out on training? Do we really want that at Milan ?

[nefremo]

I doubt things will be the same at Milan. Ronaldo was said to be a troublemaker at Real but we haven't seen none of that at Milan have we? It seems like our club is the place where everybody calms down and just performs. Who knows......maybe we can even transform Ba into a great player. :grinser: I doubt Ronaldinho would be trouble if he comes....I only see him arrival as a huge positive....on the field and off.

As for the other players linked.....I think we will get Emerson who will provide great balance into our midfield. Also, I think one of Ronaldinho or Eto'o will come but that one will probably drag on through the summer. I thought that we will get someone in the back as well but now Kaladze is set to stay so I doubt somebody in CD will arrive. Nesta, Kaladze, Bonera and Maldini looks great if all are healthy and if Simic stays then that's even better. The only place a little weak to me is the right side where Oddo's back up will be Cafu who I don't know what he will be capable of next season, however if Carlo thinks that he can do what's asked of him then I'll settle for it.

So all in all I expect 2 players to arrive......one in midfield and a striker/ATM(in the case of Ronaldinho only). That's what I expect and what I'll be happy with however one more player wouldn't be bad as well.

[zlatanov]

pass me the tissue please :zany:
I will just give you the whole box ... let me know WHEN you need more :grinser:

No worries guys, I think a LB is in the making - either Abidal or Zambrotta - plus Emerson/Edmilson and amother mid and an attacking player - one of Etoo, Dinho, Henry and even Trez, if my Gila prediction turns out yo be right ;)

[Hasan Rossonero]

I will just give you the whole box ... let me know WHEN you need more :grinser:

No worries guys, I think a LB is in the making - either Abidal or Zambrotta - plus Emerson/Edmilson and amother mid and an attacking player - one of Etoo, Dinho, Henry and even Trez, if my Gila prediction turns out yo be right ;)

Do you think Milan are just keeping quiet about the Zambo target. Do you genuinely believe that they will move for him?

What makes you so confident about 4-5 signings? Is it the amount of competitions we will be in next year?

[Bosniaco]

This is why I was dissapointed yesterday, I mean Galliani is crazy. Inter signed Suazo and he give us so many problems when we played against Cagliari, now imagine Ibra -- Suazo. This is sad...

[zlatanov]

Do you think Milan are just keeping quiet about the Zambo target. Do you genuinely believe that they will move for him?

What makes you so confident about 4-5 signings? Is it the amount of competitions we will be in next year?
yes and yes :)

not sure if it will be Zambro or Abidal (rumours about the Lyon man are gathering speed) or another quality LB, not many of those out there, but I doubt Carlo is happy with Janku at LB considering the number of agerage/bad games he had last season some of which were pretty high-profile ones.

And Carlo said it himself - with that many competitions a big squad with quality player will be needed and players like Simic, Brocchi may find themselves surplus to rquirements and end up being sold or loaned out.

[zlatanov]

This is why I was dissapointed yesterday, I mean Galliani is crazy. Inter signed Suazo and he give us so many problems when we played against Cagliari, now imagine Ibra -- Suazo. This is sad...
relax my man, Galliani didn't say anything conclusive there just his usual ellusively stretchy stuff given that the one time he opened up to the media - about Milan making an official offer for Etoo - ended up with him having to apologize to Barca on the official site.

He is just not giving anything away and so that he doesn't end up looking like a liar, he is just stretching that same candy he has been fiddling with for years now. :grinser:

as for Inter with all those impressive names they have, they can only play two players at a time and that will guarantee us some controvesy in that dressing room given that at least one or two big players will feel neglected by that "coach".

[hitmannq8]

zlat - i wish you were right but unfortunately i dont think you are..our management have been talkin all season about how they gonna splash the market this summer but after winning the CL i really dont think they are going to do that.. i think at most we would buy 1 player (prolly emerson) and maybe 1 freebie.. zambrotta?? im willing to bet you he's stayin at Barca! Abidal? i have no idea..

[humanTORCH]

From Goal.com:

Ibrahim Ba Makes Surprise Milan Return - Report

Reports In Italy suggest that midfielder Ibrahim Ba has just signed a one year contract with Milan.


French midfielder Ibrahim Ba, 34, has supposedly agreed a one year contract with Milan. There are some details that need to be ironed out, including Ancelotti's final approval, following which he will undergo a medical, and sign on the dotted line.

"I am very happy," said 'Ibou'. "I always got on well at Milan, remain close to everyone there, and have worked hard in these months hoping to have another chance."

"I would be so pleased to come back, but it has to be good for everyone and not cause any problems for the coach.

"I hope he will want me in the squad."

'Ibou' has already spent four years as a Milan player, between 1997 and 2003, interrupted by two loan spells. The first was at Perugia (1999-2000) and the second at Marseille (2001-02).

He joined Milan from Bordeaux in 1997 as a great talent, but never quite lived up to his promise. He finally left for Bolton Wanderers in 2003, at the age of 30.

The right-sided midfielder played 56 games for the Rossoneri, scoring one goal.

This current move comes as a big surprise, given that he was playing with Serie C side Varses last season.

It is seen as a goodwill gesture from the club, a chance for him to go out on a high, after he agreed to a 'token' contract worth just 200,000 euros (Andriy Shevchenko earns that money in a week, to put it into perspective).

It does bring to the fore, once again, Milan's soft spot for ageing players.

Some call it loyalty, other fear potential suicide! Goal.com invotes readers to suggest where they stand!
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He could be our big signing this summer. :devf:

[kris]

Eto - Who clearly has declared his love for Barca and wont leave,
Henry - Im not sure what happening about him, however if Wenger gets Trez then we can forget about Henry as im sure he would stay and partner him.
Sheva - Its a step backwards if you ask me but its still a striker and I doubt RA would let him come back.

With the likes of Inter getting Sauzo we get urmmm?

Eto'o, declared his "love", just like Sheva did and see what happened.

[mzk57]

Is there any chance of Frank Lampard coming to AC Milan????
Has there been ever any English player as a hit in AC MIlan???? :)

[Tony75]

Fat Frank. No thanks.
Yes, check the history of Milan. Quite a few have played for us.

[mrki]

I will just give you the whole box ... let me know WHEN you need more :grinser:

No worries guys, I think a LB is in the making - either Abidal or Zambrotta - plus Emerson/Edmilson and amother mid and an attacking player - one of Etoo, Dinho, Henry and even Trez, if my Gila prediction turns out yo be right ;)

Please let this be true :grinser: That would make a perfect squad.

thanx to "AC_Milanista" from goal.com forum I've found out this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXpPD3FpxIg

I've heard he plays as a RB, so in 10 years we know who will be our captain...

[Graeme C]

Please let this be true :grinser: That would make a perfect squad.

thanx to "AC_Milanista" from goal.com forum I've found out this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXpPD3FpxIg

I've heard he plays as a RB, so in 10 years we know who will be our captain...

hahaha thats brilliant! thats daniel Maldini? seedorf got pwned by a 5 year old :devf:

[Tony75]

The kid is only 5. You have high hopes to have as the rb in 10 years time.

[mrki]

You're right, 15 then... :)

[Rando]

i dreamt about milan signed ibrahim ba!
is it better for milan to buy tiago rather than emerson?
etoo doesnt seem keen to join milan, maybe we should go for saviola?

[zlatanov]

i dreamt about milan signed ibrahim ba!
congrats, your dream has come true ... now please dream that tomorrow I find 100 mil in a truck parked across the street :grinser:

is it better for milan to buy tiago rather than emerson?
should Brocchi leave, why not both :sweeteye: :diablo:

etoo doesnt seem keen to join milan, maybe we should go for saviola?
Saviola seems to have signed with Real M already, although truth-telling Ramon is still denying it ;)

[Tony29.]

http://www.calciomercato.com/index.php?c=21&a=45766

According to French newspapper l'Equipe, Henry to Barcelona is a done deal (Eur 30m).
They dont exclude the possibility of Eto'o going the other way, to Arsenal, because he's always been one of Wenger's favourite players ( this i doubt will happen)

[mrki]

Im so bored right now, its too hot to study right now. We need a chat in here!!!!!

[ForeverMilan]

our management even doesnt have a b plan,when sheva left last summer,they should have had plan b and briging another top class yet they signed a clown at the end of transfer season.

just because of that,i have milan future fear.

i doubt these guys in our management can manage to sign eto'o even if barcelona puts him on the market,since chealse,pool and arsenal has been his admirer too,they can pay more than us to eto'o and barcelona,in premier so many african plays so racism wont be a problem for him as well,considering this all,eto'o is very unlikely.

if i believe in galliani and berlusconi,we had signed ronaldinho 100 times and totti 200 times.

[ForeverMilan]

what do you say on our attack?

we have ronaldo

we dont know what happens with him,he can injure himself anytime.

pippo cant play with regularity since he is too old.

Gila fails fails fails misses misses misses.

Oliveira is the joke of the year

whearas just look at what inter has now,Adriano,ibrahimovic,crespo,cruz and now they added suazo to their attacking department.

compare their attack with ours?our only striker who scores with regularity is ronaldo who is a mystery,we cant predict his future,with injuries or with goals everything can happen.

juve signed grygera,milito,saliahmidzic e.t.c.

while we signed ba,how come you expect it that im happy?

[ForeverMilan]

Sheva-Milan, linea interrotta

Era il nome più gettonato alla vigilia della finale di Atene, poi qualcosa si è inceppato, forse per inseguire Eto'o. Ora l'attaccante è in vacanza alle Barbados e attende notizie

MILANO, 14 giugno 2007 - Dopo Didier Drogba, ecco José Mourinho: “Il Chelsea non funziona più come prima e questo ha fatto sì che si veda in maniera diversa il mio rapporto con Abramovich”. L’attaccante aveva scelto i giornali inglesi per raccontare quanto gli piacciano l’Italia e il Milan, mentre lo Special One ha scelto lo spagnolo Marca per far capire che le inquietudini dei blues non riguardano soltanto i giocatori. Una scelta non casuale, visto che il suo nome viene spesso associato ai grandi club di Spagna.
MOSSE - Tutto il Chelsea è in fermento. Il proprietario Abramovich voleva la Champions e non ha avuto neppure la finale: questo ha creato una serie di scosse che potrebbero mutare il volto del club di Londra e influire sul futuro di Andriy Shevchenko. Un futuro che sembrava deciso in tre settimane da raccontare: il 2 maggio Silvio Berlusconi dichiara che la porta per Sheva è “spalancata”, una settimana più tardi l’amministratore delegato Galliani aggiunge “gli terremo il posto da extracomunitario libero per due mesi”, il che fa pensare che, al di là dei passaporti, l’amore per Samuel Eto’o non sia più forte di quello per l’ucraino che ha nostalgia del suo vecchio club.

SENTIMENTI - Poi, a poche ore dalla finale di Champions, va in edicola sul settimanale Chi (rivista Mondadori, quindi di casa Berlusconi) un’intervista con Kristen, la moglie di Shevchenko: “Milano è la nostra casa, più di quanto lo sia adesso Londra”. La strategia dei sentimenti sembra vincente, tanto che la notte di Champions dovrebbe portare un incontro risolutivo fra Berlusconi e Shevchenko. L’incontro salta ufficialmente perché il traffico aereo nel cielo sopra Atene è troppo intenso, in realtà perché si è pensato fosse meglio evitare di indispettire Abramovich. Una delicatezza che sembra confermare un accordo vicinissimo, con il presidente del Milan pronto a riprendersi, con la Coppa, anche l’attaccante al quale ha sempre voluto bene. Lo Special One, almeno a Milano.
INTERROGATIVI - Ma da allora, e in pochi giorni, tutto è cambiato. Il Milan ha buttato a mare l’ipotesi Ronaldinho e si è messo alla caccia di Eto’o, che un anno fa era stato nominato erede naturale di Shevchenko. L’accordo sfumato allora potrebbe essere raggiunto adesso, anche perché di mezzo c’è un altro allenatore: Frank Rijkaard non piace affatto a Eto’o e il camerunese lo ha ammesso in maniera inequivocabile definendolo “una cattiva persona”; sarebbe questa incompatibilità la spinta principale a lasciare Barcellona. Nel frattempo, Andriy se n’è andato in vacanza alle Barbados dopo essere passato da Milano senza incontrare nessun dirigente. La versione dei fatti più accreditata è che il manager del Chelsea Peter Kenyon abbia sparato una cifra troppo alta per la sua cessione, e l’ipotesi di consentire a Sheva di tornare al Milan in prestito non è mai stata presa in considerazione né dal Chelsea, né dallo stesso Shevchenko. Il telefono, in questi giorni, è rimasto muto: forse soltanto Mourinho può convincere Abramovich a cedere Shevchenko, ma al momento sembra più intenzionato ad andarsene lui stesso e in ogni caso il Milan sembra distratto da molti amori. Amori nuovi, sembrerebbe.
Alessandra Bocci

gazzetta.it

[zlatanov]

Im so bored right now, its too hot to study right now. We need a chat in here!!!!!
if it's too hot to study it should be too hot to chat too, no? :diablo:

[Hasan Rossonero]

our management even doesnt have a b plan,when sheva left last summer,they should have had plan b and briging another top class yet they signed a clown at the end of transfer season.

just because of that,i have milan future fear.

i doubt these guys in our management can manage to sign eto'o even if barcelona puts him on the market,since chealse,pool and arsenal has been his admirer too,they can pay more than us to eto'o and barcelona,in premier so many african plays so racism wont be a problem for him as well,considering this all,eto'o is very unlikely.

if i believe in galliani and berlusconi,we had signed ronaldinho 100 times and totti 200 times.

I think we can pay more than Arsenal and Man U. Both those clubs are saddled with debts, and Man U have already spent a chunk of their transfer kitty. We are a richer club than Liverpool also.

Chelsea is probably the only one that can outbid us.

We have Berlu behind us, and if we want a player we will get him.

[ForeverMilan]

Please let this be true :grinser: That would make a perfect squad.

thanx to "AC_Milanista" from goal.com forum I've found out this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXpPD3FpxIg

I've heard he plays as a RB, so in 10 years we know who will be our captain...
the one who plays in RB is christian Maldini,yet daniel seemed to me a good tackler,he tackles like nesta.

[ForeverMilan]

I think we can pay more than Arsenal and Man U. Both those clubs are saddled with debts, and Man U have already spent a chunk of their transfer kitty. We are a richer club than Liverpool also.

Chelsea is probably the only one that can outbid us.

We have Berlu behind us, and if we want a player we will get him.
i didnt refer to this,the fees or wages on english market are absolutely crazy this is why they can pay more than us,considering a club like middes. paid 3.4 m euros a year wage to a player like tuncay sanli.

[Tony75]

I think we can pay more than Arsenal and Man U. Both those clubs are saddled with debts, and Man U have already spent a chunk of their transfer kitty. We are a richer club than Liverpool also.

Chelsea is probably the only one that can outbid us.

We have Berlu behind us, and if we want a player we will get him.
The main problem we have is that when the club consider a player, who then says he is happy to stay where he is, the club then go for option b, c and usually end up with d or e. They have no staying power in the market, and end paying stupid money for average players, or get below average players on free's. There is a reason why some players are put on frees!!!

Further to that the club/Berlu have promised a great signing for 2 seasons now, and have once again gone back on that promise, by saying they can't guarantee a top signing. They should admit to their inadequate capabilities on the transfer front, instead of continous lies.

Of our summer/winter signings this season only Oddo contributed to our CL campaign this season, and R99 to our league, all others were mediocre, or just above average.

[zlatanov]

I have no choice but start using my own tissues :5hoest: ... I mean, after such strong and consistently logical argumentation of how gloomy Milan's future looks with Silvio and Galliani at the helm - these two should be forced to return all the 5 CL Milan won in the last 20 years, inluding the one from barely 3 weeks ago :rolleyes: ... it just sickens me to think of what's to come :u31:

:grinser:

[Graeme C]

The main problem we have is that when the club consider a player, who then says he is happy to stay where he is, the club then go for option b, c and usually end up with d or e. They have no staying power in the market, and end paying stupid money for average players, or get below average players on free's. There is a reason why some players are put on frees!!!

Further to that the club/Berlu have promised a great signing for 2 seasons now, and have once again gone back on that promise, by saying they can't guarantee a top signing. They should admit to their inadequate capabilities on the transfer front, instead of continous lies.

Of our summer/winter signings this season only Oddo contributed to our CL campaign this season, and R99 to our league, all others were mediocre, or just above average.

yeah Bonera and Gourcuff were ok, Oliviera was a joke.. i cant believe we spent 18 mill on him..

[mrki]

We'll be just fine, some players will arrive. But I do agree that it is now time for someone really good upfront. Galliani also knows it and Carlo asked for it!

[Oldman]

yeah Bonera and Gourcuff were ok, Oliviera was a joke.. i cant believe we spent 18 mill on him..

we can only pray that he will shine next season...whatelse can we do?? Sell him at half price?? Nobody will take him....

Main purpose to buy him last year was to attract and tie Dinho with us as his agent is Dinho's brother..but now...??

Last statement from Galliani doesn't give any big hope to us that we are gping to have a star player. Drogba is actually make himself available in the market but dunno whether Carletto like him or not although Drogba said that he likes to join Milan??

[Russo-Neri]

we can only pray that he will shine next season...whatelse can we do?? Sell him at half price?? Nobody will take him....

Main purpose to buy him last year was to attract and tie Dinho with us as his agent is Dinho's brother..but now...??

Last statement from Galliani doesn't give any big hope to us that we are gping to have a star player. Drogba is actually make himself available in the market but dunno whether Carletto like him or not although Drogba said that he likes to join Milan??


Loan him out! He won't get much better riding our bench and playing Coppa Italia matches. He needs playing time to get better so that his value can go up and he can be sold NEXT year.

[peters]

somehow i have a strong feeling none of the barca trio we are interested in - ronnie, etoo, zambrotta - will leave the club. Specially not the first 2. Anyone wanna make a provisional bet?

[Sleep]

Maybe I'm the only one who hopes you are right:D. I don't want all of these players:D <Not really with etoo, but he's too expensive if we pay P28M>.

Mrki: best video I have watched this week.

[Warro Bantan]

The main problem we have is that when the club consider a player, who then says he is happy to stay where he is, the club then go for option b, c and usually end up with d or e. They have no staying power in the market, and end paying stupid money for average players, or get below average players on free's. There is a reason why some players are put on frees!!!

Further to that the club/Berlu have promised a great signing for 2 seasons now, and have once again gone back on that promise, by saying they can't guarantee a top signing. They should admit to their inadequate capabilities on the transfer front, instead of continous lies.

Of our summer/winter signings this season only Oddo contributed to our CL campaign this season, and R99 to our league, all others were mediocre, or just above average.

Yes, these guys (Berlu and Galliani) should be dipped in tar and coated with feathers, and paraded naked through Milan in disgrace for the signings they have made over the past 20 years.

With crap signings like Ronaldo, (Cup tied in the UCL, so only able to contribute in the league as Tony75 has so eloquently stated) $heva, Seedorf, and Pirlo, we are the laughing stock of Europe...it must have been bribery of the highest order that we managed to win the UCL last year, after nearly not even being allowed to enter the competition.

Lets get rid of both Berlu and Galliani, they have no idea what they are doing.

These idiots are going to ruin our wonderful club!

[Warro Bantan]

somehow i have a strong feeling none of the barca trio we are interested in - ronnie, etoo, zambrotta - will leave the club. Specially not the first 2. Anyone wanna make a provisional bet? I will take ur bet, and raise you, with the stakes being that not only will one of the three leave the club, but one will certainly join Milan.

[ACMILAN1983]

This place is too panicked, it's insane. The transfer market has only just begun, so it's too early to say which players we'll get. Galliani's comments are probably there to play the game, transfer season is a tough time and a statement like that will ease the growing rumours of all these forwards we're linked with, reducing the profile of the transfer and thus, gaining us an advantage in negotiations.

Also, I'm hearing complaints about Suazo and Tuncay?? Tuncay first of all never was Milan quality. If he came, the most he'd be is a 4th choice forward, which I doubt he'd want. Suazo isn't half as good as some people make out. He's a very fast and pretty strong forward, but there's a lot of problems if he was to come. Firstly, he's not brilliant technically, and can be wasteful. Secondly, his game is based on speed and running in behind defenders, perfect for counterattacking football, which Milan rarely get to play,so how we'd even be able to fit him into the side is beyond me. Thirdly, he's had 2 decent seasons now, the first 2 years ago where he'd come on mostly as a sub (at 25 and in Cagliari, not impressive) and had a reasonable goalscoring return. Last season he was very good and burst onto the scene, and scored 22. This season, he's scored 14 (2 more than what's considered a terrible season by Gila) and 6 (YES 6!!!!) were penalties. He's gone to Inter as most probably a sub, not a starter. If we get a top class forward as suggested, then in our squad we'll have Ronaldo, Gila, Pippo, RO and new forward. That means most probably RO will leave, with Gila and Pippo being on the bench, hardly a poor strikeforce.

Another worry people seem to be having is we're not getting particularly young players. Don't people notice a difference between Milan in recent years compared to the past during Berlu's time in Milan? If you haven't, it's actually that we are developing our youth setup a lot more. The results are evident, as a number of Primavera talent have been shining, with a handful (Aubameyang, Di Gennaro, Bottini, Antonelli, Darmian to name some) looking like players we could develop into top class players. It's not just Primavera players either, but also the Allievi Nazionale looks promising after they recently won their league. These players will be important in the future, especially as the rules in CL change to say that clubs must have homegrown talent.

Now for the strikers we're linked with, they're all good players, but I think there are certain targets which are exciting...

Henry - For me, a player that should have an immediate effect in the side. He's not young anymore, but has plenty of talent and would slot most naturally in the side. The risk is how long can we maintain him to play at the highest level, as the drop will come, and usually that's at 30 for many strikers. However he's also got a fantastic strike rate for Arsenal.

Eto'o - A quality player, strong, quick and has the ability to move around well. He's definately amongst the best forwards around and would nicely go out wide when we need him to. At 25, he costs a lot, but has the potential to be huge for us, though his Barca goalscoring figures aren't as impressive as you might think (54 in 133 games).

Dinho - Either he'll be a massive, and I mean massive player for us, or one of the greatest flops of all time. He'll cost a fortune, but his talent is unquestionable. However, he can nicely fit into Seedorf's more recent role, but then it's a question of how well can he work with Kaka and Ronaldo, which until now has never been hugely successful. Another factor people often miss is he's actually got an excellent strike rate for a player in his position scoring somewhere around 60 goals in 126 games for Barca (note, that's better than Eto'o).

Drogba - A different kind of player to the others as he won't drift wide. He's a big, very powerful target man and can produce magic. However, how well he'd fit into our squad, and our system is debatable. He's got a good goalscoring record but again will cost us. Like Henry, at 29 it's questionable how long before the inevitable drop comes.

Trezeguet - Similar to Gila but is probably a more reliable striker. Ageing again, but probably can last a couple of seasons yet. However, it's very unlikely he'll come.

Personally, I find it hard to decide who to get. If Dinho was cheaper, he would probably be my first choice, as i do think Carlo has the ability to bring the best out of the "Ro-Ka-Ro" partnership.

edit - the goalscoring figures are from Wiki, so maybe not correct.

[Tony29.]

Dev, to make your point about Suazo stronger....
He scored 14 goals this year and 8 were penalties, not 6 !
He played on 36 matches.
If he wasn't the penalty taker, he would have scored 6 goals on 36 matches. It's not impresive even for a midfielder, even more a striker.

[zlatanov]

And to make Dev's point about the whining around this place even stronger - not that elsewhere it's any dif, actually much worse - I believe the transfer season hasn't even started yet - July 1st is the opening day ...

and Spain, where many if not most of our supposed targets play, have one more round to go till the end of La Liga ... hardly the time to start bugging teams and players with transfers let alone announce it in the papers.

[Warro Bantan]

No no no!! All the talent is being snapped up!! We have to sign players before the window opens, or we will loose everyone!!

Call Galliani!! Call Berlu!! Its panic time!! Inter has made signings!!...Man U have made signings....Fiorentina also...Juve as well...we will wait and wait and wait, and end up with Ba, and other players of his "calibre".

[Graeme C]

would you guys class Quagliarella a star?

[Hasan Rossonero]

would you guys class Quagliarella a star?

Not yet. I know Man U have made an offer, and he might play for them.

I would consider him as a Tavano--promising and certainly very good, but not a star yet.

[zlatanov]

Not yet. I know Man U have made an offer, and he might play for them.

I would consider him as a Tavano--promising and certainly very good, but not a star yet.
same here and the price set by Samp and Udine - 15+ mil - pretty much confirms what Hasan said.
certainly a good player though, who reminds me a bit of Sheva's style of play.

[Cane1972]

Inter is buying up all these strikers and many of them have their goals from PK well is Inter planning on recieving four PK's a game? Because all I see is that yes they will have strikers but you can not have them all play. In fact in the long run does this not hurt Inter. Follow me on how it hurts them. They are having to pay top dollar for most of these strikers and yet with the limited time they will all recieve and their stats will decrease greatly then Inter will not get much if they plan on transfering in the near future. While winning the Scudetto is nice you need lots of money if you are going to keep doing what they are doing and they have not won EUFA tournament of any sort in a very long time.

[Warro Bantan]

He is certainly a "star" in the making...IMO

[Paddy De Nagan]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again...we will not buy a single player this transfer period

[King tiger]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again...we will not buy a single player this transfer period


we bought Ba already :D :p017: :p017:

[Tony75]

Yes, these guys (Berlu and Galliani) should be dipped in tar and coated with feathers, and paraded naked through Milan in disgrace for the signings they have made over the past 20 years.

With crap signings like Ronaldo, (Cup tied in the UCL, so only able to contribute in the league as Tony75 has so eloquently stated) $heva, Seedorf, and Pirlo, we are the laughing stock of Europe...it must have been bribery of the highest order that we managed to win the UCL last year, after nearly not even being allowed to enter the competition.

Lets get rid of both Berlu and Galliani, they have no idea what they are doing.

These idiots are going to ruin our wonderful club!
I mentioned the last 2 years in reference, not 20 years ago when they weren't senile. They could have been dipped in tar this Summer if not for the miracles Carlo creates with our average squad just recently.
If we had lost then maybe Berlu & Galliani would back their promises for a present from the last 2 seasons, but now they seem to think we don't need anyone at all.

Face it guys we sucked major this season, and without Athens it would have been a disaster. Don't be fooled by that result to believe everything is fine. It's not. We've got too many players of average ability, and too many approaching their last season. They should have been signing one quality player per summer to strengthen the starting 11 at least, and 1 or 2 for the squad. If we don't do it this season, then next season will need a REVOLUTION big time - Maldini, Cafu, Serginho, Favalli, Dida, Kalac, Fiori, Inzaghi, R99, Seedorf, Brocchi, Nesta, Oddo will be either gone, no longer be so young or injury prone. What then?

[Hasan Rossonero]

I think we have to have a little perspective here.

There's a good chance a few players will arrive.
There's a good chance that one or two will arrive.
There's a good chance that no one will arrive.

We just have to hope for the best and be ready for the third possibility.

[Hasan Rossonero]

I mentioned the last 2 years in reference, not 20 years ago when they weren't senile. They could have been dipped in tar this Summer if not for the miracles Carlo creates with our average squad just recently.
If we had lost then maybe Berlu & Galliani would back their promises for a present from the last 2 seasons, but now they seem to think we don't need anyone at all.

Face it guys we sucked major this season, and without Athens it would have been a disaster. Don't be fooled by that result to believe everything is fine. It's not. We've got too many players of average ability, and too many approaching their last season. They should have been signing one quality player per summer to strengthen the starting 11 at least, and 1 or 2 for the squad. If we don't do it this season, then next season will need a REVOLUTION big time - Maldini, Cafu, Serginho, Favalli, Dida, Kalac, Fiori, Inzaghi, R99, Seedorf, Brocchi, Nesta, Oddo will be either gone, no longer be so young or injury prone. What then?

:grinser:

So you take the biggest trophy that we just won away from our season, and then label it a disaster?

Similar logic: If Italy hadn't won the World Cup, their campaign would have been a disaster.

I take your general point though. I really think we need players, but we DID NOT suck this season.

[Tony75]

C'mon. Without it, I wouldn't put it down as a success. Finishing 2nd in 0405 for league & CL was heartbreaking for Me and many Milanista. Wouldn't consider that a successful season.

Italiy is different considering their failures in recent tournaments, whereas Milan have had success in the CL in recent years.

[Hasan Rossonero]

I guess it's just perspective.

I think we had the best season out of all European teams because we won the biggest prize there is to be won for club football.

We also finished in the top 4 despite an 8 points penalty and a farce of a domestic season.

[Tony75]

Obviously I'd settle for winning the big one every season, but I don't think the club are making the necessary purchases to keep the club at the front of the game. Our first 11 needs a new LB, and a WC CF, never mind our squad that needs another RB option, a pure CM, decent sub striker, and a better 2nd keeper. Not to forget the 3 youth players who need to be registered in squad also.

[Hasan Rossonero]

Milan plan £70m Roni raid
Thursday 14 June, 2007
Milan are ready to spend over £70m to bring Barcelona star Ronaldinho to the San Siro, according to the Spanish Press.

The Brazilian has yet to renew his contract with the Blaugrana and reports suggest that he might leave the Nou Camp if the Catalan outfit lose the Liga title race to rivals Real Madrid.

Marca claims that President Silvio Berlusconi has put aside £70m for the former Paris-SG ace, whose contract expires in 2010, as he hopes to see a Ronaldo, Kaka and Ronaldinho trident next term.

Spanish newspapers also reported a growing rift between the South American and his teammates, as confirmed by his refusal to attend the 2-2 draw with Espanyol last week and the fact that he walked out of training.

The player, who is once again on Milan’s wish list after teammate Samuel Eto’o stated that he would not leave Barcelona, preferred not to comment.

“Now I want to go on holiday, I will think about the future when I return,” Ronaldinho told El Mundo Deportivo.

Real Madrid transfer consultant Ernesto Bronzetti believes that a move is unlikely, mainly because of the player’s sponsorship deals.

“I don’t think Barca will sell Ronaldinho, his sponsors want him to stay in Spain,” said the football agent.

“He is sponsored by Nike and they already have Ronaldo at Milan. If it were only up to the player, things would be different,” added Bronzetti.

In the meantime, Berlusconi admitted that Milan have made an enquiry for Chelsea star Didier Drogba, but the Blues turned down the offer stating that the Ivory Coast captain is not for sale.

[Tony29.]

You see guys, its not like Milan is not doing anything.
There was an offer for Drogba obviously, but Chelsea turned it down.

You must understand Galliani&Berlu.
They are not saying it just like that when they say how Milan is after the greatest players, but sometimes (most of the times) its impossible to take them away from their teams (and we're talking about the greatest teams in the world)

You can say that Milan didn't make the right offer, but i doubt that's the case. Imagine Milan being the selling team.
Would you accept 80m for Kaka ?
It's a great offer, isn't it ?
Would you accept 20m for Gattuso, 20m for Nesta ?
All more than fair offers ?

I guess you wouldn't. Well, the other great teams also don't want to sell their best players even if a great offer comes.

They are trying to take the best ones, but it's very hard to buy the best of Chelsea and Barcelona, just like it's hard to buy the best of Milan.

[ACMILAN1983]

Dev, to make your point about Suazo stronger....
He scored 14 goals this year and 8 were penalties, not 6 !
He played on 36 matches.
If he wasn't the penalty taker, he would have scored 6 goals on 36 matches. It's not impresive even for a midfielder, even more a striker.

lol, that's what happens when you use poor sources for your info :nervous:

Thanks for correcting me, and to prove a point, more than half of his season tally are penalties

I mentioned the last 2 years in reference, not 20 years ago when they weren't senile. They could have been dipped in tar this Summer if not for the miracles Carlo creates with our average squad just recently.
If we had lost then maybe Berlu & Galliani would back their promises for a present from the last 2 seasons, but now they seem to think we don't need anyone at all.

Face it guys we sucked major this season, and without Athens it would have been a disaster. Don't be fooled by that result to believe everything is fine. It's not. We've got too many players of average ability, and too many approaching their last season. They should have been signing one quality player per summer to strengthen the starting 11 at least, and 1 or 2 for the squad. If we don't do it this season, then next season will need a REVOLUTION big time - Maldini, Cafu, Serginho, Favalli, Dida, Kalac, Fiori, Inzaghi, R99, Seedorf, Brocchi, Nesta, Oddo will be either gone, no longer be so young or injury prone. What then?

Ok, firstly last summer doesn't count as we had far bigger worries than buying new players. The big achievement was we kept almost all of our stars. Also, if the last few summers have been disappointing, it's only in the fans heads, as it's expected for Milan to make big signings. However, on the pitch in the last 3 years, we were twice runners up in the league and almost won CL everytime. The fact is, we always fought incredibly hard on both fronts, which no other team in football were doing (except argubly Barca in a pretty weak Spanish league). This last season, we won CL and came 4th. In the second half of the season, after a much needed break, if I remember correctly we were the best side in the league (or at the least, top 3), which is hardly sucking, especially considering what happened in the first half of season, which couldn't be helped by the players or management.

We need to buy players, but we do not need a revolution.

[mrki]

Galliani and Braida know what to do, and Im sure we'll get someone important. By important I mean not big named, but a player that can fufill the duties Carlo wants him to in order to complete the tactical plan for the netx season. We are not like those clowns Mijatovic and Calderon, just buying like mad persons, Milan works smart.
I believe we'll really go for Ronaldinho or Eto'o or Drogba or someone like that. But you cant expect Galliani to promise anything. If we manage to bring Emerson and Eto'o, you can say we did hell of a job and no one can say a word to managment. Except me , you know my wish: Zambrotta. :grinser:

Oh and about inter merda...dont worry guys. Suazo is a good player, but we cant worry just becouse someone signed someone, its pointless. You cant field 5 strikers, and if we get just one we'll be more than strong up front. Dont forget we have worlds best player in Milan - Kaka' :devf:
Inter is, in my oppinion, first favorite to win scudetto next year also simply becouse things have changed in their favor in itali, and we all know how serie a works off the field. We only need to keep our heads clear and make smart buys, then go for no.8 CL and scudetto if possible.

[zlatanov]

http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/index.php?action=read&id=62775

Keita and Bodmer have both joined Lyon. These two could well become important players for Lyon in the next several years ... still, they are expected to lose Malouda, Abidal and probably even Tiago too.

[Kaka1899]

Galliani and Braida know what to do, and Im sure we'll get someone important. By important I mean not big named, but a player that can fufill the duties Carlo wants him to in order to complete the tactical plan for the netx season. We are not like those clowns Mijatovic and Calderon, just buying like mad persons, Milan works smart.
I believe we'll really go for Ronaldinho or Eto'o or Drogba or someone like that. But you cant expect Galliani to promise anything. If we manage to bring Emerson and Eto'o, you can say we did hell of a job and no one can say a word to managment. Except me , you know my wish: Zambrotta. :grinser:

Oh and about inter merda...dont worry guys. Suazo is a good player, but we cant worry just becouse someone signed someone, its pointless. You cant field 5 strikers, and if we get just one we'll be more than strong up front. Dont forget we have worlds best player in Milan - Kaka' :devf:
Inter is, in my oppinion, first favorite to win scudetto next year also simply becouse things have changed in their favor in itali, and we all know how serie a works off the field. We only need to keep our heads clear and make smart buys, then go for no.8 CL and scudetto if possible.

are you been payed to mention Zambro in every post? :zany:

[mrki]

Im my head there is stil lhope that someone is watching this site from the club :)

[zlatanov]

are you been payed to mention Zambro in every post? :zany:
he wishes, at east that way not all would have been in vain :grinser:

[zlatanov]

Im my head there is stil lhope that someone is watching this site from the club :)
oooh, no worries there - they ARE watching ;)

[mrki]

hehe, I know :sweeteye:

[Kaka1899]

oooh, no worries there - they ARE watching ;)

yeah Zlat can 'Arrange' that for you mrki :bri:

[ACMILAN1983]

are you been payed to mention Zambro in every post? :zany:

He's not the only one dreaming of a Zambro transfer right now ;)

[Kaka1899]

He's not the only one dreaming of a Zambro transfer right now ;)

oh i want one just dont mention it in every post like mrki but at least mrki is commited to his cause

[Nalx]

Im my head there is stil lhope that someone is watching this site from the club :)
from the avatar, you can see that some familiar faces from the club are really watching this site :grinser:

[peters]

So you take the biggest trophy that we just won away from our season, and then label it a disaster?

I take your general point though. I really think we need players, but we DID NOT suck this season.
I fully agree with tony75 on that matter. Except for the season saving last 5 matches (1/4finals, semifinals and final game) we 'sucked' by milan's standards the whole season. One look at the serieA table says it all (and you can add defeats to inter, roma, palermo to the account :) ). Withouth proper buyings i would predict next season to be alike, but hey its still long to go and im not worried for now.

Warro, im keeping our 'bet' saved :5ok:

[Leo]

Barca have been trying to lure Henry since last year and most probably they will be successful in getting him this summer. Now I have been thinking that Barca would most likely be reluctant to let go of Eto`o and Ronnie. Assuming all three to start in addition to Messi, who is a definite starter, i will have to assume that Deco will not be a starting regular on the side. (Henry - Etoo, Ronnie - Messi, Xavi, DF (Toure or Edmilson or whichever). Now Deco is a world class midfielder who would not accept to be left on the bench (which he has the right too given his huge talent and ability). So I can see that he would prefer to move to a team that would guarantee him a starting spot..a team..a team like Milan maybe, where he would definitely be a starter and would give us much better options than lets say EMERSON. Deco would be very versatile and be able to play in Seedorf's role on the left or could become a cover in Ambrosini's role if we play 5 in the midfield.

[Ghost]

The problem I have with Henry going to Barca is that what if they have him and dont sell any of their players, we are pretty messed up then. There are only a certain amount of big profiled players you can have in 1 team, Eto is a great finisher he has skill and technique. He plays much different to the way Henry plays as Henry runs towards defenders and brings them out, mostly going to the left. Now if he done that at Barca im sure he would get in the way of Messi or R10, it just doesn't add up to me not like I care anyway.

I still say this if Henry leaves im sure of it he will come to us, im one of the few here who actually would have Henry over Eto any day of the week. I cant stand eto, I have never liked him and probably never will. Henry on the other hand I would love to have, probably because I have watched him ever since he left Juve.

[Leo]

Milancelotti, my point is that we have just restricted our choices between Henry and Eto`o, why not look at other options with great players such as Deco, who have definitely been undermined by Barca. I totally agree with you that with the arrival of Henry at Barca, there would be a major overload of players, which in my opinion is not a very healthy things as conflicts would most likely start to occur.

[Graeme C]

if brocchi and Abbiati both go (or stay) at torino, i would at least Like Rosina for next season out of that.

[Warro Bantan]

peters, bet is on bro!!

And for those who are concerned with our "transfers" to date, or more properly, those we havent made...as Zlat (I think) reminded me, the transfer window isnt even open yet!

[zlatanov]

peters, bet is on bro!!

And for those who are concerned with our "transfers" to date, or more properly, those we havent made...as Zlat (I think) reminded me, the transfer window isnt even open yet!
let me see how did that one go .... oh, yeah - "If Milan are a great and ambitious club, such minor details MUST NEVER stop them, otherwise Galliani and Silvio are pathetic losers and idiots" :rolleyes:

:grinser:

[Mehdi]

peters, bet is on bro!!

And for those who are concerned with our "transfers" to date, or more properly, those we havent made...as Zlat (I think) reminded me, the transfer window isnt even open yet!

It opened June the 1st.

[zlatanov]

I believe for Italy it is July 1st, not June 1st

don't have an exact link but here:
http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/index.php?action=read&id=62781

it says that Roma has agreed to buy half of Barusso for 2 mil and the transfer will have to wait till the beginning of July to be made official.

[zlatanov]

http://www.calciomercato.it/dettaglioNewsCategoria.asp?hdnIdCategoria=2&hdnId=8818

Chelski has signed Tal Ben Haim from Bolton and that could well mean that Alex might be available given that it was Jm who wanted Ben Haim, who is a pretty univeral defender - can play both in CD and on the sides, I believe.

[Stezagud]

TbH is a good signing for Chelsea as squad cover but im not sure how much he'll affect Alex's situation as he was on a free. Actually i hope they do keep persuing Alex becuase they have plenty of centre backs but are crying out for a decent right back :D

[zlatanov]

I believe chelski will get a new RB - probably one of Alves, Miguel, or Micah Richards - by the end of the transfer season.
ben Haim will most probbaly be a replacement for Bulharouz, who seems to have lost JM's favour and is rumoured to be on his way out.

that's why I am still not sure where Alex, JM is supposedly against his coming to SBridge, will fit in given that he said he wanted to play regularly.

the way I see it, it would be best for both sides if Chelski just cash in on Alex, who has only 1 year left on his contract, I think.

[lana]

Barca have been trying to lure Henry since last year and most probably they will be successful in getting him this summer. Now I have been thinking that Barca would most likely be reluctant to let go of Eto`o and Ronnie. Assuming all three to start in addition to Messi, who is a definite starter, i will have to assume that Deco will not be a starting regular on the side. (Henry - Etoo, Ronnie - Messi, Xavi, DF (Toure or Edmilson or whichever). Now Deco is a world class midfielder who would not accept to be left on the bench (which he has the right too given his huge talent and ability). So I can see that he would prefer to move to a team that would guarantee him a starting spot..a team..a team like Milan maybe, where he would definitely be a starter and would give us much better options than lets say EMERSON. Deco would be very versatile and be able to play in Seedorf's role on the left or could become a cover in Ambrosini's role if we play 5 in the midfield.



DECO is too slow and inconsistent.We already have alot of creative players without pace.What we need is more raw strength and pace.

[alanhub]

i don't think so

[Sleep]

according to some rumors, Juve is trying to get Vaart but they only want to pay E10M while Hamburg wants E20M. A really good midfielder to me. If the rumor is true, we can have him with only P10M. He's one year younger than Kaka, not as good as Kaka but his passing, shooting skill are very very close to Kaka's ability. Throw Ronaldinho away, save P60M and get Vaart please.

[Leo]

DECO is too slow and inconsistent.We already have alot of creative players without pace.What we need is more raw strength and pace.

Who are our creative players with pace? Brocchi? Ambrosini? One of our most creative midfielders is Seedorf and he isn't really that fast. What about Emerson, wouldn't Deco be a much better option than Emerson? For example this formation would not change much of our existing formation.

-----------------------------Ronaldo
-----------------Kaka

-------------------Seedorf----------Deco

---------------------Pirlo-------Gattuso
-----------Zambro-------------------------Oddo
----------------------Maldini------Nesta
----------------------------Dida

[hitmannq8]

I fully agree with tony75 on that matter. Except for the season saving last 5 matches (1/4finals, semifinals and final game) we 'sucked' by milan's standards the whole season. One look at the serieA table says it all (and you can add defeats to inter, roma, palermo to the account :) ). Withouth proper buyings i would predict next season to be alike, but hey its still long to go and im not worried for now.

Warro, im keeping our 'bet' saved :5ok:

I also agree with peters and tony75. We did have a great end to our CL campaign (only 5 games). Our first half of Serie A was poor by all standards mainly because of the lack of world-class players in our squad depth. Our second-half was much better than the first but still incomparable to our last few seasons.

Our management do know this because all season they have been using the Calciopoli as an excuse for why they had such a poor transfer campaign. They have been talkin so much about how the fans would be satisfied next summer transfer campaign all season. With all the money they were planning to put in, add on top of that the CL prize money we got, we have to at least buy 4-5 world class players as zlat said. In all honesty, anything less than that would be another disappointing transfer campaign.

If we were again to continue with this squad next season I will guarantee that we will not be satisfied. It will be a really frustrating season, but im sure all of you do know that. Im going to hope that Galliani and Braida do pull a few aces from their sleeves, I dont care when, just as long as they are aces.

[kris]

Face it guys we sucked major this season, and without Athens it would have been a disaster. Don't be fooled by that result to believe everything is fine.

with this prevalent belief around here I managed to win the bet that we would reach a UCL position that I betted while we where at our lowest this season. also, the 170€ for Milan winning UCL was a nice bonus.

If we don't do it this season, then next season will need a REVOLUTION big time - Maldini, Cafu, Serginho, Favalli, Dida, Kalac, Fiori, Inzaghi, R99, Seedorf, Brocchi, Nesta, Oddo will be either gone, no longer be so young or injury prone. What then?

Of the ones you mentioned Seedorf, Brocchi, Nesta and Oddo shouldn't belong too, nor the goalies. apart from our striker situation the rest is already reserves and have been replaced. Favalli is just a backup, Serginho is also a backup, Cafu have been replaced with Oddo, Maldini is a semi-starter, but I seriously doubt he will be used much next season and wasn't used that much this season. Brocchi is also just a backup. The striker side is the only real problem as the two best performers doesn't have that much football left ni them, gila needs to step up and we need a new player there, everyone knows that.

[mrki]

WHF?? Baldini and Mijatovic were at Kaka's house according to reports. Milan will be offered 75 mil and Kaka' a 10mil per year deal.

This has to stop, why cant we sue real for this kind of behaviour??

[mrki]

I have an idea, Madrid has offered so much, maybe we can offer soemthing. LEts see...we can offer to pay taxi for them OUT of Milano city and straight to hell !

Hope Barca win La Liga!

[Gio-mania]

I agree, last seasons transfer season was crap.. apart from gourcuff and bonera (promising players for the future). But the moggiopoli scandal was the reason. the scandal also led to a poor preparation, hence a poor season.
Why are you all complaining? La liga isnt over yet, so we cant really start buying their players.
It's true we need a good transfer season, and that we need to reinforce the squad. we need a class striker, but not a static striker like gila and inzaghi.,,, we need someone who can move well with and without ball.
Milan may not make a perfect transfer season, but they will make a good one, i am sure of that.

[Hasan Rossonero]

Silvio shares Sheva optimism
Friday 15 June, 2007
Milan President Silvio Berlusconi claims that the Rossoneri have an “80 per cent chance” of signing Andriy Shevchenko this summer.

The Ukrainian left the Italian giants in a £30m move to Chelsea last year, but he’s been linked with a return given his struggles in the Premiership.

And although the European champions have openly admitted that they want Samuel Eto’o, Berlusconi has openly snubbed the Barcelona sensation.

“I like Eto’o as he is a young and talented player, but I am a romantic and I prefer Shevchenko,” said Berlusconi to the Sfoghi di Calcio television show.

“Up to a few days ago, when I spoke to [Vice-President Adriano] Galliani, I thought Sheva’s chances of coming back were 80 per cent.

“If things had changed and that percentage had dropped to 50 then I am sure Galliani would have told me.

“Shevchenko wants to return and his wage demands would not be a problem, as his salary would be the same as the other champions.

“Obviously we need to find an agreement with Chelsea, but I think he would be an ideal addition to our attacking department.

“I consider Sheva my son. I have shared many important moments with him, like his father’s operation and the birth of his son, who I am godfather to.”

Meetings with Chelsea officials were expected to take place after the Champions League Final in May, even if Shevchenko had insisted that he wanted another chance to prove himself in England.

Whispers at that time claimed that Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich was ready to let the former Dynamo Kiev player head back to the San Siro

[Hasan Rossonero]

I have an idea, Madrid has offered so much, maybe we can offer soemthing. LEts see...we can offer to pay taxi for them OUT of Milano city and straight to hell !

Hope Barca win La Liga!

I think Kaka earns something close to that in Milan anyway.

We're going to hear about this all summer. I don't know if this report by Tuttosport is true (the paper is of a very poor quality), but this stuff and our interest in Dinho will pop up over and over again.

In other news it states that Real is furious with us because we contacted Emerson directly, and there is sort of a "cold war" between the two clubs.

[Tony75]

They are just saying that to blot our transfers, and make it seem that they aren't the only ones who go behind clubs backs,which they've done with us, Chelsea, Barca in recent years. Doubt if Galliani or anyone has made contact with Emerson when he still has a year to go on contract, and we need Mardid's say so for him to come for medical. Please say no though Mardid.

[Hasan Rossonero]

Latest is that Galliani has confirmed that Milan maintain their position that they will not sell Kaka. Galliani also said that Kaka is happy to stay until the end of his contract (2011).

He mentioned something about how Spanish clubs have an advantage over Italian clubs due to tax laws. Players earn 25% more in Spain.

Source: www.gazzetta.it , www.tgcom.it , www.acmilan.com

From www.acmilan.com

MILAN WILL NOT SELL KAKA

The different fiscal constraints between Spain and Italy mean that the top Spanish clubs are more competitive when making offers to top players but Adriano Galliani has declared that Milan have no intention of selling Kakà

MILAN - The news that there has been a meeting between Real Madrid officials and Ricky Kakà's father, engineer Bosco Leite has not caught the Rossoneri officials out. Chief executive Adriano Galliani told the club's official site: 'We can confirm we will not sell Kakà, but we knew about this meeting because we were already informed of it by Kakà's father and Gaetano Paolillo. So Milan can confirm that Kakà is certainly not for sale but this offer is born out of the different fiscal constraints between Italy and Spain which advantage the top Spanish sides compared to the top Italian clubs. Practically, the gross sum offered to a top player by an Italian club is 50% of the figure while in Spain it is 75%.

[Tony29.]

Don't lose your sleep over Kaka. He'll stay at Milan this year and probably the next one also (unless some forces aka sponsors don't interfere). But even if there's a pressure from outside for Kaka to be sold, this following 2007/08 season there's absolutly no way Kaka to leave your team.

As for the offer, i don't think Kaka earns £7m a year ( that's ~10.5m euro, even the highest payed players in Chelsea and Real Madrid don't earn this much). This is a very tempting offer, just like the world record offer of £53 (80m euro) is tempting....but stll there is no way both Milan and Kaka will accept it at this point. Next year, or most probably after 2 year, Kaka could join Real, but not now !

In other news....Sheva seems close to a comeback, like Hasan already mentioned, while Inter are offering Adriano for Eto'o and after Berlu underlined that Sheva is the main objective, Inter suddenly becomes a favourite to get Eto'o

[Tony29.]

He mentioned something about how Spanish clubs have an advantage over Italian clubs due to tax laws. Players earn 25% more in Spain.

the gross sum offered to a top player by an Italian club is 50% of the figure while in Spain it is 75%.
Someone knows why is that ?
I find it awful news. Spain does seem much more attractive to moneyhunters than Italy. I don't think Juve can compete with Real or Milan with Barcelona if this is the case.

If a player earns 6m euro per year in Italy and in Spain, it means he'll get only 3m per year in Italy and 4.5m per year in Spain. For 2 years in Spain the player will get the same money as if he plays 3 years in Italy. :mad:

This is another reason why Real's offer for Kaka is so tempting.
If he now earns 7m euro in Italy it means he gets only 50% of it (3.5m euro) , and if he earns 10.5m in real madrid, he'll get 75% of that (7.8m euro).
In one year he'll be getting more than he'll earn in 2 years playing in Italy.

I don't know if i understood correctly Galliani's words, but if i did then, as you can see, Spanish teams have huge advantage over our teams.

[zlatanov]

Someone knows why is that ?

state taxes, I believe - the two countries have dif tax laws and that's what makes for this dif ... basically, nothing the clubs can do about it.
In germany they have very high taxes too - maybe one reason why the Bundesliga isn't a favourable money-making spot for the biggest names in football - although I doubt Italy comes even close to Germany in terms of social/econom. development, I mean, the germains might be draining your wallet but at least they have something to show for in return.

[peters]

u understood it right, i dont know about the numbers but the general idea is correct. Less taxes on payment in spain so the offer is REALLY good for kaka. Thank god we won CL so i am ice cold he will stay at least one more year. Its one more reason for milan to buy some good players this summer, i doubt kaka will be pleased to drag the whole team forward for one more season.

[Hasan Rossonero]

I think if Milan want to sell Kaka, it will probably be in 2011. By then he will be practically 30, and they will probably get a good transfer fee for him.

However, until then a lot can happen. There's just as good a chance (if not better) that he may stay in 2011.

The only way Italian clubs can compete is that if they offer 2-3 million euros more to their mega star players.

So let's say for example Kaka earns 10 at Milan. He would pocket 5 at Milan and 7.5 at Real. But if he earned 13, it would approach what Real are offering. Again, if Berlu wants to keep Kaka beyond 2011 then I am sure he would make the sacrifice. But yes, in general, clubs in Spain have an advantage, but it has been like that for a long time.

[Hasan Rossonero]

u understood it right, i dont know about the numbers but the general idea is correct. Less taxes on payment in spain so the offer is REALLY good for kaka. Thank god we won CL so i am ice cold he will stay at least one more year. Its one more reason for milan to buy some good players this summer, i doubt kaka will be pleased to drag the whole team forward for one more season.
He will stay as long as Milan won't sell him. Yes all this tax talk is important, but we are owned by Berlu.

If Berlusconi wants Kaka to stay at all costs, trust me, he will.

[Hasan Rossonero]

Someone knows why is that ?
I find it awful news. Spain does seem much more attractive to moneyhunters than Italy. I don't think Juve can compete with Real or Milan with Barcelona if this is the case.

If a player earns 6m euro per year in Italy and in Spain, it means he'll get only 3m per year in Italy and 4.5m per year in Spain. For 2 years in Spain the player will get the same money as if he plays 3 years in Italy. :mad:

This is another reason why Real's offer for Kaka is so tempting.
If he now earns 7m euro in Italy it means he gets only 50% of it (3.5m euro) , and if he earns 10.5m in real madrid, he'll get 75% of that (7.8m euro).
In one year he'll be getting more than he'll earn in 2 years playing in Italy.

I don't know if i understood correctly Galliani's words, but if i did then, as you can see, Spanish teams have huge advantage over our teams.

I'm very sure Kaka earns (I can't remember how much, but I read it in a reputable source) in gross close to or the figure Real is offering. However, tax laws in Italy mean he will pocket 25% less in Italy.

But this is nothing new, and yes it does not bode well for Italian football's competitiveness in the future.

[Tony29.]

clubs in Spain have an advantage, but it has been like that for a long time.
Yeah, i guess it was. And still Italians were as succesful, maybe even more, than the spanish were.

Still, i get nervous whenever i hear such news about the financial powers of spanish teams. Now i understand that even the state gives them advantage over our teams.
Vieri, Zidane, Cannavaro,Zambrotta, Thuram, Emerson.....no matter the reasons for their departure, Juve lost these stars to a spanish team, so you can understand why i found these news so scarry :)

[Hasan Rossonero]

Yeah, i guess it was. And still Italians were as succesful, maybe even more, than the spanish were.

Still, i get nervous whenever i hear such news about the financial powers of spanish teams. Now i understand that even the state gives them advantage over our teams.
Vieri, Zidane, Cannavaro,Zambrotta, Thuram, Emerson.....no matter the reasons for their departure, Juve lost these stars to a spanish team, so you can understand why i found these news so scarry :)

Well it is very scary. The thing that works in the Italian clubs' favour is patronage. In Spain, there is not a onwer who bankrolls the team really.

[Dave]

I don`t think Kaka will leave! Shevchenko? I like him as a player, but it would be better to go for Eto`o or other younger striker, than for him!

[Tony29.]

Well it is very scary. The thing that works in the Italian clubs' favour is patronage. In Spain, there is not a onwer who bankrolls the team really.
Another thing i dislike in this case Hasan, is the off field work Real Madrid does. We've all heard about the 1 billion they got recently ( i don't remember how did they get this. Some kind of sponsorship or something...).
These guys make so much money, it's disgusting.

I know they struggled a lot lately and they couldn't win anything in Spain or Europe, but they still were the only ones who could have alowed a Galactico team.
To have Zidane, Figo, Ronaldo and Beckham in the same team :mad:
I know it's just an envy because my team can't do something like that and afford the wages of the 4 greatest stars in football, but i find this too much and kinda unfair.

Few weeks ago i read about Harvard University's study on the worldwide impact of the Real Madrid brand. The numbers are astonishing :
It concluded that Real Madrid had over 228 million followers in the world. Next in line were: Manchester United (168M), Juventus (140M), Bayern Munich (113M), and Barcelona (35M).

This means that all Italian clubs combined don't have as many supporters as Real Madrid does. Now imagine how many jersey's with Ronaldo's name were sold while he was in Inter and Milan and how many were sold while he was in Real.
If the player gets a % of these sales, then we really can't compete with Real Madrid.

I really don't know what can Italian teams do to get similar popularity and similar market power as Real has :rolleyes:
Both Milan and Juve won a lot and were succesful in Europe in last ~10 years but we're still far behind them, not in terms of success, but in everything else.

[Tony75]

There is always studyings coming out saying which team has the most fans etc, and honestly it's a joke. Most people who support a team don't actually buy club merchandise, and usually settle for counterfeit goods. I'd say a good percentage of those "238 mill" are from Asia or Africa, and perhaps also from underdeveloped countries, and thus don't have the money to waste on Madrid jersey.

Another factor is the glory hunter, and after winning in Athens I can forsee people in other countries jumping on the Milan bangwagon.

Personally I couldn't care less who has most fans, and it's probably a lie.

8 out of 10 surveys using statistics are lies. Fact.

[Tony75]

Another thing actually. Back in 2000 madrid were in severe debt. The Spanish government stepped in to bail them out by buying their club training grounds for at least 3 times their face value, and also at the same stage built them a new training ground for free, thus ridding madrid of any debt, and allowing them to go on a spending spree, culminating in their Galactico period.

[Hasan Rossonero]

Good points by both Tonys.

The thing you guys have to remember is that Juve, Milan and Inter have a strong financial backing from Agnelli, Berlusconi and Moratti respectively.

That means, these owners can always invest in their clubs and it is a huge source of income. Real and Barcelona are owned by the people.

My point is, a few years ago (I think 2002 or 2003), Galliani admonished of similar financial distress in Italy. Yet, Milan bought Rivaldo that same year (ok he wasn't a superstar but still).

Then, last summer when Real were openly courting Kaka, Milan managed to extend his contract. When asked, Galliaini said "we did what he had to do to keep Kaka." When recently any purchase goes through (especially one after protracted negotiations), Galliani always thanks Berlusconi.

Similarly, look at Juve. How many clubs coming from Serie B to Serie A (or any second division to the first division) could have a transfer budget amounting to 35 million sterling! That is the transfer budget of Arsenal or Liverpool. The Agnelli backing allowed them to "hike up their capital" to make fresh funds available for Juve.

I can come up with a lot of examples. But make no mistake about it, Galliani, Moratti and anyone from the Agnelli representation may say a lot about fiscal hardships, but when it comes down to it they throw their weight around.

Which takes me back to my earlier point. If it came down to it, in 2011 let's say, that it would take an investment of 10 million more euros over 3 years to keep Kaka, and Kaka is flying in Europe, do you honestly think Berlu will close his wallet?

Tgcom, owned by Berlu, reported that he is willing to invest 100 million euros for Ronaldinho yesterday (they got it from Marca)! No one has denied these figures, and frankly what I have said in the above few lines is very plausible.

Moratti certainly pays his stars very well.

[eltomas2]

yeah money is an important issue but it was an ITALIAN team who the champions league, it was ITALY who won the world cup, the ballon d'or plays in ITALY...+ great clubs like juve, NAPOLI, genoa are back in serie a...future looks bright for italy as far as im concerned

[Hasan Rossonero]

yeah money is an important issue but it was an ITALIAN team who the champions league, it was ITALY who won the world cup, the ballon d'or plays in ITALY...+ great clubs like juve, NAPOLI, genoa are back in serie a...future looks bright for italy as far as im concerned

:pp20: :p155:

[Sleep]

Hasan say exactly what I want to say. E100M for Dinho, so only E3M more each year for Kaka'wage is not that much. And Berlusconi prefer Kaka to Dinho, of course:D. Talking about money, I think only Fiat of Agnelli, oil of Moratti and Abra can match Berlusconi's mediaset.

[Kaka1899]

http://www.goal.com/en/articolo.aspx?contenutoid=328800

when will Real get the message "Back Off!"

[lked]

Kaka1899 don't worry , Im quite sure Kaka will remain with us at least for another 2 seasons . Remeber that he promsied to bring Kaka in Bernabeu last year not just him but Roben and Fabregas too .. and what happen nothing !

[Hasan Rossonero]

Has anyone commented on this! This is bigger news than Real's failed attempt (again)!!!!

Silvio shares Sheva optimism
Friday 15 June, 2007
Milan President Silvio Berlusconi claims that the Rossoneri have an “80 per cent chance” of signing Andriy Shevchenko this summer.

The Ukrainian left the Italian giants in a £30m move to Chelsea last year, but he’s been linked with a return given his struggles in the Premiership.

And although the European champions have openly admitted that they want Samuel Eto’o, Berlusconi has openly snubbed the Barcelona sensation.

“I like Eto’o as he is a young and talented player, but I am a romantic and I prefer Shevchenko,” said Berlusconi to the Sfoghi di Calcio television show.

“Up to a few days ago, when I spoke to [Vice-President Adriano] Galliani, I thought Sheva’s chances of coming back were 80 per cent.

“If things had changed and that percentage had dropped to 50 then I am sure Galliani would have told me.

“Shevchenko wants to return and his wage demands would not be a problem, as his salary would be the same as the other champions.

“Obviously we need to find an agreement with Chelsea, but I think he would be an ideal addition to our attacking department.

“I consider Sheva my son. I have shared many important moments with him, like his father’s operation and the birth of his son, who I am godfather to.”

Meetings with Chelsea officials were expected to take place after the Champions League Final in May, even if Shevchenko had insisted that he wanted another chance to prove himself in England.

Whispers at that time claimed that Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich was ready to let the former Dynamo Kiev player head back to the San Siro.

[hitmannq8]

yeah i like it but i'll still pretend as if i hadnt see that report, so if Sheva doesn't come I wont be disappointed.. Sheva coming back would be like returning with your ex-gf who is also your soul-mate. It'll always feel great to be back with her no matter if she cheated on you or whatever (makes sense? :P). I'd love to have him back, but if that was in the expense of a younger, faster, dominant striker then I'd say no.

[Hasan Rossonero]

Kaka1899 don't worry , Im quite sure Kaka will remain with us at least for another 2 seasons . Remeber that he promsied to bring Kaka in Bernabeu last year not just him but Roben and Fabregas too .. and what happen nothing !
I think more than 2 seasons...more like 4. Then if Milan want him they will do everything to renew his contract.

[Bosniaco]

Well, looks like we going to have the option to get Raggi from Emoli, maybe not this season but the one after. I think Raggi is a right back, but can played some other positions too. I saw him play few times he is jsut a desent defender. He is also a U-21.

[Giorgos]

I want Sheva and don't got stuck to words i think that we will take another striker too. If we finally got only Sheva we would be better than the previous season. The goal we must have is to sign him with a not very big payment in order to have money to buy also other good players....

[Stitch]

One more Milan transfer target gets victimized by our SLOW management.



Barusso On Way To Rome

The Giallorossi and Rimini seem to have finally reached an agreement on the transfer of the strong midfielder from Ghana.


Ahmed Barusso's move to Roma had stalled early on Thursday, due to the two clubs failing to reach an agreement on the transfer type. The Giallorossi wanted the player on a co-ownership deal, whereas Rimini wanted to sell him completely.

Neither side would make a step backwards in the negotiations and the deal seemed to be completely off, however late on Thursday evening, Roma and Rimini seem to have finally agreed on the transfer of the player.

In fact, Rimini gave in an agreed for a co-ownership deal, with Sensi's club giving the Serie B outfit 2 million Euros for the Ghana midfielder.

Barusso will receive 300k Euros per year for the next 5 years, with the two clubs expected to make the officially announce the deal later on today.

GD

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=328500

young, cheap, solid player that fits our needs. Bravo Galliani.

[remote2book]

guys id dont kno.....i really hope sheva comes back..heres y ..i kno he is old and we r in need of younger players .but with his expiernce in serie A i bieleve he can easily regain his form under carlo and we can win the scuedetti and we alreay know wat maldini said that he will be welcomed back with open arms so no other player can object..

[King tiger]

Roma failed to sign Rimini's Ahmed Apimah Barusso as the two clubs have not agreed on the transfer type. The Giallorossi want the co-ownership of the player, whereas the Serie B side want to sell the player completely. New developments are expected in the coming days, even though latest reports are suggesting that the two clubs might be again close to agreeing on a deal.


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[Stitch]

kuki your news are older than mine, and you could see that if you read the whole article :D

Neither side would make a step backwards in the negotiations and the deal seemed to be completely off, however late on Thursday evening, Roma and Rimini seem to have finally agreed on the transfer of the player.

[goose]

I think more than 2 seasons...more like 4. Then if Milan want him they will do everything to renew his contract.

Are we all in agreement here? Real Madrid have no class. They just don't know when to stop tapping people up. Ok, so we've been bugging Ronaldinho pretty hard to join us but Madrid take it to another level. UEFA should fine them heavily.

[King tiger]

kuki your news are older than mine, and you could see that if you read the whole article :D

arrrgh

then....

Galliani out, Galliani sucks :D

[Stitch]

uprava napolje :D

[Youth-entus]

Kaka' will not leave you guys. He is the heartbeat of your club. And will win World player of the year for sure.

[nefremo]

When Galliani talked about the Spanish advantages over the Italian, I don't think he necessarily meant Inter, Juve and Milan but the other clubs. I think Inter,juve and Milan can go against any club money-wise, however with this tax difference the midtabe teams are the ones that will fall further back simply because they wont be able to go against the Spanish mid-table teams. Milan, Juve and Inter are out of discussion I think simply because of what wa mentioned by some of you......the personal backing of the billionare owners.

About Real Madrid having no class??...I don't understand why. I was completely shocked when I read about this meeting but I don't blame Real at all. As a matter of fact I blame Kaka and his agents for accepting and attending the meeting. If Kaka doesn't want to leave Milan then he(or his agents for that reason) shouldn't be attending these meeting and shouldn't be negotiating or talking to other clubs about what they'll pay him. I am just being realistic here. I love Kaka, but I think there is no room to blame Madrid. Let's not be biased here. Like I said, if he wanted Milan that much and knew he wasn't going to move to Real then he shouldn't have allowed the meeting PERIOD. On the contrary, his agents even informed Milan that they will hold talks with Madrid. That is what is making me mad. I don't understand why you guys choose to look on the other side and look away from our "golden boy's" actions and blame Real Madrid. Real wanted a meeting and it could have been rejected right?..........but it wasn't and it was held.

Anyone has the right to talk to an agent but the agent has a right to reject the talks if they are "really not interested".

All I am doing is being a little realistic here. This can only mean one thing.......Kaka is really considering a move to Madrid. Is he going to leave?....I really hope and pray that he won't but this is the way football has become and if he goes.....we will continue being Milan after him as well.

[Stitch]

uh, as much as I hate to say it, you are right about Kaka nefremo

[Hasan Rossonero]

Kaka's agents met with Real Madrid (his dad) but Kaka didn't. I'm not saying Kaka did or didn't sanction the meeting, but he has clearly said that "he has decided his future with Milan until 2011".

If you look around, whenever you ask a big player that a big club is interested in him, they never say "I want to stay here for life". Drogba plays for Chelsea and he wants to leave. Ronaldinho was even equivocal when he said he will decide his future when he comes back from vacation.

The only players who say without a doubt that they will stay are players who are from the country the league is in (I am talking about the big 3). Del Piero, Totti, Gattuso etc. can say this. But for a foreigner, who has no ties with one country more than the other, there are many options.

Personally, I think Kaka will stay with us until 2011. Then it is up to the management to decide what to do.

@nefremo: some good points indeed. But Galliani meant the top clubs in each country. However, I think this is just posturing so that the big clubs can give off an aura of being fiscally responsible. In the end, like I said, if Milan need to pay Kaka 13 million to match what Real are paying him (given the tax rates) I think they would. If they really wanted to. I just can't see Berlu be stingy about a player he really really really wants.