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mrki
21-06-2007, 11:07
If Suazo gets suspended im sure we'll break off the transfer as its not official yet. Inter can get whoever they want, untill we get what we need we can win scudetto. If we stay as we are right now, the long season will catch up on us and we'll loose in serie a. Carlo specoificly pointed that out and that is why he asked for another midfielder!

And take a look at this..rough translation from calciomercato.it: Suazo wants Inter...

CM.IT - DRAMATIC TURN OF EVENTS: SUAZO WANTS the INTER
MILAN - Clamorous desire expressed from the centravanti honduregno David Suazo to the return from the vacations: the player wants to go to the Inter, club with which had taken a moral engagement before the departure, and hour wants to try to make the maximum in order to respect the given word and to go around the agreement already caught up between the Milan and the Cagliari. The operation appears decidedly intricata. In order to resolve it currently they are to the job the same Suazo, its proxy Giovanni Branchini, as soon as re-entered from Japan, and the sport director of the Inter, Mark Branch. Calciomercato.it will follow in the next hours the developments of this incredible dramatic turn of events…

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Fine by me....whoever wants to play for Inter and not Milan actually doesnt deserve to step on Milanello's fields...and is an idiot ( lets not forget...)!

Graeme C
21-06-2007, 11:22
If Suazo gets suspended im sure we'll break off the transfer as its not official yet. Inter can get whoever they want, untill we get what we need we can win scudetto. If we stay as we are right now, the long season will catch up on us and we'll loose in serie a. Carlo specoificly pointed that out and that is why he asked for another midfielder!

i think it depends if we get another striker (sheva back) or not. I hope we still get him, even if hes out for a couple of months it would help.

Graeme C
21-06-2007, 11:30
CM.IT - DRAMATIC TURN OF EVENTS: SUAZO WANTS the INTER
MILAN - Clamorous desire expressed from the centravanti honduregno David Suazo to the return from the vacations: the player wants to go to the Inter, club with which had taken a moral engagement before the departure, and hour wants to try to make the maximum in order to respect the given word and to go around the agreement already caught up between the Milan and the Cagliari. The operation appears decidedly intricata. In order to resolve it currently they are to the job the same Suazo, its proxy Giovanni Branchini, as soon as re-entered from Japan, and the sport director of the Inter, Mark Branch. Calciomercato.it will follow in the next hours the developments of this incredible dramatic turn of events…

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Fine by me....whoever wants to play for Inter and not Milan actually doesnt deserve to step on Milanello's fields...and is an idiot ( lets not forget...)!

calciomercato.it isnt that reliable.. i think he would be stupid not wanting to play with us, considering now Inter could be punished aswell so there not a clean team as they say they are.

But yeah i completely agree, why do we want a player who doesnt want us.

Tony29.
21-06-2007, 12:26
http://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Primo_Piano/2007/06_Giugno/21/duo.shtml

Zlat ?

zlatanov
21-06-2007, 12:27
well, that last bid didn't succeed, I guess (as in maybe), but Milan has one more card up the sleeve ... and Juve is interested in getting to know it even better ;)

Tony29.
21-06-2007, 12:35
well, that last bid didn't succeed, I guess (as in maybe), but Milan has one more card up the sleeve ... and Juve is interested in getting to know it even better ;)
Translate , please :)
I'm kinda slow now

Tony29.
21-06-2007, 12:43
No need for "translation" Zlat...i understand you know.
I wasn't following what's happening and i didn't know about Milan's late bid. According to this : http://www.skylife.it/html/skylife/sport/video_sport.html?video=2
Tiago rejected Milan and he specifically said he wants Juve , not Milan.

Still, it's not official yet because it's not on Juventus.com. Maybe there will really be a change of mind and Tiago could join Milan !

zlatanov
21-06-2007, 12:44
Translate , please :)
I'm kinda slow now
gilardino ... that's the other part of the translation ;)

zlatanov
21-06-2007, 12:51
No need for "translation" Zlat...i understand you know.
I wasn't following what's happening and i didn't know about Milan's late bid. According to this : http://www.skylife.it/html/skylife/sport/video_sport.html?video=2
Tiago rejected Milan and he specifically said he wants Juve , not Milan.

Still, it's not official yet because it's not on Juventus.com. Maybe there will really be a change of mind and Tiago could join Milan !
a change of mind probably not, unless Milan makes an even higher bid to Lyon and from there things go in a dif direction.
Tiago wants Juve as he knows well that in Milan the competition in midfield will be relentless while Juve is just starting to build a new team and he has a much better chance of making a position in midfield his own ... other than that, I don;t see any reasons to prefer one team over the other on the contrary even - Milan will play CL, Juve not.
Doubt any of those "my childhood dream was to play for ...." excuses used by players on a regulra basis played a role here.

But it also depends on how much Milan wants/needs Tiago ... given the right "desire" that card I mentioned could come into play, especially if Trez leaves.

GilAttack [11]
21-06-2007, 12:54
I read once back then an spanish article about Suazo and how he had something against Milan (sort of). And then watching him score against us I got that impression as well, seeing the way he celebrated.
But who knows....

And regarding Inter going after Aguero, let them have him. He is nowhere near Messi. Not even close.

Tony29.
21-06-2007, 13:00
a change of mind probably not, unless Milan makes an even higher bid to Lyon and from there things go in a dif direction.
Tiago wants Juve as he knows well that in Milan the competition in midfield will be relentless while Juve is just starting to build a new team and he has a much better chance of making a position in midfield his own ... other than that, I don;t see any reasons to prefer one team over the other on the contrary even - Milan will play CL, Juve not.
Doubt any of those "my childhood dream was to play for ...." excuses used by players on a regulra basis played a role here.

Absolutly !
Unless Paulo Sousa was his childhood hero and he's in love with Juve because of Sousa, so he doesn't care about money or starting place ( and i don't give more than 0.00000000001% to this possibility) then Tiago will chose Juve only because :
1. They offer more money than Milan
2. Both teams offer the same money but he'll have a guaranteed place in Juve's starting XI

hany.Egypt
21-06-2007, 13:04
1. They offer more money than Milan
2. Both teams offer the same money but he'll have a guaranteed place in Juve's starting XI
3. he is not a good player and and want to join a team that matches with his ability :grinser:

zlatanov
21-06-2007, 13:06
I think Juve have offered Tiago something like 2.5 mil/season so that's much really and I doubt Milan would have offered less than that, in fact it could have been a little more than it.
I think his starting place being guaranteed at Juve played the main role here and it's not a "minor" reason, which can be easily neglected, from the player's point of view.

drucurl
21-06-2007, 14:33
Hey there Dru old pal
Where the x have you been lately ? :)
I've been exploring my redness and blackness lately :D Daaaaaamn that place is a dump :yuck:


Anyhow back to topic.... I reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally hope Inter don't get Augerro....someone expressed indifference over his transfer but I have a bad feeling that that kid is going to be really big..or at least bigger than Eto'o.....I have rarely been wrong about young stars I predicted that Kaka, CR7 and messi would be great..... looong before they were I kinda got Ronaldinho wrong but then again he was played (as a No 9 not a no. 10 )out of his true position so I had no idea :zany:

']I read once back then an spanish article about Suazo and how he had something against Milan (sort of). And then watching him score against us I got that impression as well, seeing the way he celebrated.
But who knows....

And regarding Inter going after Aguero, let them have him. He is nowhere near Messi. Not even close.
You really don't have a clue do you :wallbang: I'll have you know that Augerro's rating got to 97/100 on Fifa 07 so that seals it :grinser:
Seriously I have a deep gut feeling about him (no Zlat it's not the spicy wings acting up :zany: )


Listen up great and beautiful people of MM Sergio Augerro is destined for great things and it's as simple as that :bri:

Warro Bantan
21-06-2007, 15:33
So Villareal have :D rejected a Riquelme return:

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=440505&cc=5739

Could we bring him in as a Kaka sub?

Nordahl
21-06-2007, 15:49
I would simply LOVE to see Riquelme joining us, he's really a great playmaker, very inteligent and skilled.

Nevertheless, that transfer season is getting very confuse... we didn't even know if Suazo will be able to play for us, and since we won't make any deal (fortunatelly....) with Real Madrid, Emerson will not join our side... so I guess the board is still looking for a midfielder, and I think they are also planning, in terms of defense, at least to sub Costacurta.

Nordahl
21-06-2007, 15:57
BTW: I've read somewhere that we'll seld Grimi... is that true?

Tony29.
21-06-2007, 16:07
BTW: I've read somewhere that we'll seld Grimi... is that true?
I read this morning how Grimi will be loaned to Sporting Lisboa

http://www.calciomercato.com/index.php?c=24&a=46448

Nordahl
21-06-2007, 16:08
Oh, thanks, dude.

kastriot
21-06-2007, 18:22
So Villareal have :D rejected a Riquelme return:

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=440505&cc=5739

Could we bring him in as a Kaka sub?

NO warro....his great for inter but not for MIlan....I`ll be short though I can make a long list of his bad qualities!!! His to slow,very lazy, and problematic....none of those will pass with Carlo...and Kaka is very different type of player.... Riquelme is more of Seedorf type of player

EDIT: His argentinian...enough said :uhm: :grinser:

drucurl
21-06-2007, 18:39
NO warro....his great for inter but not for MIlan....I`ll be short though I can make a long list of his bad qualities!!! His to slow,very lazy, and problematic....none of those will pass with Carlo...and Kaka is very different type of player.... Riquelme is more of Seedorf type of player

EDIT: His argentinian...enough said :uhm: :grinser:
I agree...people try to make conparisons with his skills and ronaldinho's ....which is quite accurate..I mean if you leave out the :
>having less talent (passes are more visionary i concede)
>having no speed whatsoever
>being a huge choker (missed a penalty vs....get this...Inter :eekani: )
>whining
>no smiling
...... he's exactly like ronaldinho :grinser:

Isn't it obvious that Diego was made for Milan :wallbang: do we really have to wait till he's 32 :notlist: ?

kastriot
21-06-2007, 18:51
Isn't it obvious that Diego was made for Milan :wallbang: do we really have to wait till he's 32 :notlist: ?

No I dont think we will wait that much, probably Berlu will leave earlier than that(hope not), and will change strategy and will get him around 30 :grinser:

Mystik
21-06-2007, 20:55
I agree...people try to make conparisons with his skills and ronaldinho's ....which is quite accurate..I mean if you leave out the :
>having less talent (passes are more visionary i concede)
>having no speed whatsoever
>being a huge choker (missed a penalty vs....get this...Inter :eekani: )
>whining
>no smiling
...... he's exactly like ronaldinho :grinser:

Isn't it obvious that Diego was made for Milan :wallbang: do we really have to wait till he's 32 :notlist: ?
Diego's at the stage in his career where he shouldn't be second best. Especially not second best to Kaka because, let's face it, he won't get much playing time. Best move would be to go somewhere where he's guaranteed first team action.

Nordahl
21-06-2007, 23:49
Why not play with 2 attacking midfielders against weaker sides?

GilAttack [11]
22-06-2007, 00:36
Riquelme is much better than Diego. Riquelme won many trophies and he was the main reason for his many teams' success. And even when they didnt win (See: Villareal), he did some amazing things. Getting Villareal to UCL semifinals isnt easy, you know?
This being said, I dont want either player at Milan.

remote2book
22-06-2007, 01:35
heyyyy dru.........where u been buddyyy missed ya jokes

Jim_UK
22-06-2007, 05:07
It seems we are still looking at another striker, which is good news. I don't think Etoo will go anywhere this summer and given that there is a low-ish value on Henry, i think we should go for him. He'd be cheaper than Shevchenko and without the baggage/history, for around £14 million (if the price is to be believed) he'd be a bargain i think.

Failing that, Huntelaar & Pato all the way.

hany.Egypt
22-06-2007, 06:27
Riquelme is much better than Diego. Riquelme won many trophies and he was the main reason for his many teams' success. And even when they didnt win (See: Villareal), he did some amazing things. Getting Villareal to UCL semifinals isnt easy, you know?
This being said, I dont want either player at Milan.
How old is Riquelme, and how old is Diego? You cant compare them in term of trophies. its totaly unfaire

drucurl
22-06-2007, 07:42
Riquelme made all his haters look dumb last night...but as I always say..one swallow doesn't make a summer ;)

ForeverMilan
22-06-2007, 08:18
what do you think about Sagna,Mattieu,Emana,Makoun guys?

ForeverMilan
22-06-2007, 08:23
First off all,we all expected tiago to move to juventus where he would have a quarented first team football,yet at Milan that was impossible considering we have pirlo and seedorf at first XL,gourcuff and ambro at bench,still have brocchi as well who is the one who did well this year even though he had a dip of from toward the end of the season.

secondly,Tiago is a nice player yet i see him as a risky move considering howmuch he costs,he could fail or he could do well as well,also considering he is a not a world class player in addition,he failed at chealse.

thirdly,we all seems to ignore some realities,we need a Left wing back more than a defensive midfielder,what happens if oddo injured?the only one who works perfect on the wings is oddo,cafu will be one year more next year,also considering this factors,we need a player a player who can play on both wngs backs,since we cant take any risky if we want to win both champions and scudetto together

then,i wonder why milan doesnt go for a second gourcuff on french market,since we could find alternativies for zambrotta and abidal as well on the french market such as sagna and mattieu,if we want to sign a DM,why dont we go for Makoun or emana?surely they are better than nothing.

after all,i dont want to think about like what happens if oddo injures,i have to say instead of it,we have sagna he can play at there,no problems,but now i say that cafu cant even run fast

finally,we all know that we have money so much considering berlusconi,as you said we can buy any player on the earth,Moreover im exremely happy with Suazo,is a player i rate high,carlo also said suazo was the plan B,also considering eto'o was not for sale,made suazo move perfect,i hope that he accepts to join here,will be decisive meetting between two parts today,i hope he joins us,otherwise,we should try to everything to sign henry.

ForeverMilan
22-06-2007, 08:35
come on guys,we dont need Riquelme since we have gourcuff who'll get more playing time next year,Seedorf,Kaka,even Pirlo who can play at that role as well

in addition,at the same time,if all of them injured,we have Di Gennaro,a player that i rate so high and believe in his talent.

Tony29.
22-06-2007, 08:39
First off all,we all expected tiago to move to juventus where he would have a quarented first team football,yet at Milan that was impossible considering we have pirlo and seedorf at first XL,gourcuff and ambro at bench,still have brocchi as well who is the one who did well this year even though he had a dip of from toward the end of the season.

I don't know if the rumours are true, but Milan offered 17m Euro for Tiago ( Juve offered and got him for 15m. Lyon decided to respect players wishes and didn't force him to accept the better offer from Milan) so i'm not sure if he was planned to be a sub to someone in Milan.
I guess Carlo wanted to rotate Pirlo-Seedorf-Tiago-Ambro-Gattuso as much as possible, but i believe he did have plans with Tiago and the Portuguese would have got a fair amount of playing time if he accepted Milan's offer.
But like we've concluded earlier, it looks like he wanted a guaranteed place in the team so he accepted Juve's offer.

ForeverMilan
22-06-2007, 08:46
Will juve sign another DM?i suppose they wont play with almiron and tiago together in midfield.

kumm
22-06-2007, 09:16
My point of view about Riquelme is: Riquelme is Riquelme!!!
Riquelme is one of most talented and high worker player I have ever seen. This guy can turn a game around just like Kaka or Ronaldo(in top form) can.
If anybody saw Copa Libertadores finals matches know what I´m talking about, Riquelme alone crushed Gremio in both games.

I would play Riquelme and bench Seedorf any day of the week. I know Seedorf had a fantastic season, I like him a lot and respect him even more, but Riquelme would be fantastic at Milan.

Interimovic
22-06-2007, 09:46
Will juve sign another DM?i suppose they wont play with almiron and tiago together in midfield.
Tachinardi is back... :lol:

Cane1972
22-06-2007, 10:03
I love KAKA and I would love for him to stay at Milan for the remainder of his career but it looks like that he plans one day to play for Real. Which is fine but I do not want the Milan to be left with nothing. My thought on selling him next summer is that we have a lot of games to play this year and the face that he could become more valuable by next summer. He would still have plenty of years on his contract and real are not going to want to wait till 2012. If he wins the 'Ballon d Or' and we win two of the many tournaments we are in then Real maybe willing to pay 100 million. With that we can go ahead and get a lot of younger stars(not meaning younger then Kaka).

Or would you sell him now if you made a deal for Henry, Ronaldinho and Cannavaro. Cannavaro could be part of the Kaka deal plus lets say Milan get 60 million for Kaka. Then we go ahead and buy the other two. Now I would not make the Kaka deal till I have signed Henry and Ronaldinho.

Hasan Rossonero
22-06-2007, 10:07
I love KAKA and I would love for him to stay at Milan for the remainder of his career but it looks like that he plans one day to play for Real. Which is fine but I do not want the Milan to be left with nothing. My thought on selling him next summer is that we have a lot of games to play this year and the face that he could become more valuable by next summer. He would still have plenty of years on his contract and real are not going to want to wait till 2012. If he wins the 'Ballon d Or' and we win two of the many tournaments we are in then Real maybe willing to pay 100 million. With that we can go ahead and get a lot of younger stars(not meaning younger then Kaka).

Or would you sell him now if you made a deal for Henry, Ronaldinho and Cannavaro. Cannavaro could be part of the Kaka deal plus lets say Milan get 60 million for Kaka. Then we go ahead and buy the other two. Now I would not make the Kaka deal till I have signed Henry and Ronaldinho.

The thing is if we were Juve, we would have probably sold Kaka, not because Juve are poor, but because they have a different philosophy. Berlusconi, however, doesn't need the money, and IMO that's what it comes down to. If we didn't have Berlu at the helm, then maybe Milan would have sold Kaka.

If I were Milan, I would not sell Kaka until 2011. By then he would be 29, and then they could tie him down until retirement. In my opinion, that's their plan.

Finally, if we are to sell Kaka to Real this summer (not likely) then it would probably only happen if we had a suitable replacement in place...and that can only mean Ronaldinho (profile, skill etc.). So if it were to happen, it would happen very early or if the Ronaldinho deal is in place. But IMO, Berlu wants to see Kaka, Dinho and Ronaldo together.

ForeverMilan
22-06-2007, 10:13
the peeps who says that kaka would play for real one day are not normal

Hasan Rossonero
22-06-2007, 10:14
the peeps who says that kaka would play for real one day are not normal
Elaborate...?

The other thing is after all what has happened between that repellent scum of the earth Calderon and Milan, I really think that Milan wouldn't sell Kaka to them. They would not want to give him the satisfaction.

Ghost
22-06-2007, 10:47
To be honest it will be a mammoth of a task to prize away Kaka away from Milan, as Hasan has already stated Milan are not a poor club they have the richest man in Italy backing them, a man who lets just say doesnt need money. I think the whole of Milan learned a lesson last summer when Sheva left and Galliani was the first to say that no player would leave Milan even if they wanted to leave. When you think about it who was the player that was linked with a move away from Milan after Sheva? Yes, you got it it was Kaka to Real.

I cant see Milan accepting any amount of cash for Kaka, not now not ever (well maybe when Kaka is over 30 and more replacements are in place). I dont think he will leave, especially the way he talks about his wife and how happy she is in Milan, this is no Shevchenko where the wife plays a major role in the player moving. I know Kaka admires Real but that is all this does not make him available for Real to make an offer. Milan will reject any offer they will give, trust me on that. When you look at what Ancelotti had to say a few weeks after winning the CL, he said something on the lines of 'the only player who is guaranteed to start is Kaka'. Now to me that clearly states Kaka is the heart of Milan, would Milan be that stupid to let the heartbeat of Milan go & dissatisfy the coach? Im sure he knows when leaving Milan he could end up like Sheva, a legend turned into one of the biggest flops of recent years.

Jim_UK
22-06-2007, 11:40
I can't believe more isn't being done about 'AS' photoshopping/manipulating an image to make it appear that Kaka was going to sign for them. This is just ridiculous. They need to be sued and taken down a peg or ten! Bunch of ****ers :mad:

I'm also a little miffed about Tiago joining Juve :groan:

Cane1972
22-06-2007, 11:41
I was just wondering and you all bring up very valid points.

I did not really put into perspective the hate for Calderon right now and that because Berlusconi is wealthy enough he can keep a player like Kaka.

Here is one question I had seen people talk about the amount of money a club makes from winning the Champions League. So if we are not going out and buying players why do they not offer Kaka and some of the others bigger contracts?

Hasan Rossonero
22-06-2007, 11:48
I was just wondering and you all bring up very valid points.

I did not really put into perspective the hate for Calderon right now and that because Berlusconi is wealthy enough he can keep a player like Kaka.

Here is one question I had seen people talk about the amount of money a club makes from winning the Champions League. So if we are not going out and buying players why do they not offer Kaka and some of the others bigger contracts?
The rumour is that Kaka will be offered an improved contract. The rest of the players just signed. I think their contracts stipulate bonus payments (conditioned on progress).

Tony29.
22-06-2007, 12:07
The thing is if we were Juve, we would have probably sold Kaka
I think that even Juve wouldn't have sold Kaka.
Juve under Moggi did have the reputation of a Star sellor, but if you think about it, Juve was selling the stars only when they didn't have any more space for improvement. Baggio was sold at 28, Zidane at 29, Inzaghi at 28, Vialli at 31 etc.
Kaka is only 25 and i don't think Juve would have sold him at this age. It goes without saying that Milan, a team that keeps their stars even when they stop performing, wouldn't even think about selling him !

Ghost
22-06-2007, 12:11
Tony 29, Can we have Buffon & Treze then please?

Thanks

Tony29.
22-06-2007, 12:17
Tony 29, Can we have Buffon & Treze then please?

Thanks
Sure, but you need to bring back Moggi for that !
These new guys are doing everything oposite of Moggi. Instead of selling the stars they are offering them new contracts :rolleyes:

Giorgos
22-06-2007, 12:36
Tony for the new season you will hato do an analysis of the new Juventus which i think will play attractive football.

rosoneri_11
22-06-2007, 13:46
Hello guys after 1 week without to get in here.
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What happend?????? Why we signed Suazo????? I thought our transefer list strikers was firts Eto and then Henry. Suazo is very good striker, but why Galiani and Berlusconi lie us?
Why we didn't signed Eto or Henry?
After Suazo what players we are going for???

zlatanov
22-06-2007, 14:19
Hello guys after 1 week without to get in here.
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What happend?????? Why we signed Suazo????? I thought our transefer list strikers was firts Eto and then Henry. Suazo is very good striker, but why Galiani and Berlusconi lie us?
Why we didn't signed Eto or Henry?
After Suazo what players we are going for???
etoo and Dinho want to remain at Barca and Barca doesn't want to sell them.
What more can Silvio or Galliani do, they obviously tried but just like we don't let Kaka go to Real M, in the same way Barca cvan say "NO" to us for those two.

As for Henry, I guess he was never a real target for us - my guess is Galliani and Carlo aren't big fans of his, whether it's his price and age or simply don't like him as a player, it's not clear but Carlo wasn't particularly extatic about Henry being linked with Milan.

we tried to sign Tiago, but he prefered Juve eventhough Milan's offer was reportedly higher than Juve's ... still, that would mean that we are looking for a quality midfielder.
Wouldn't exclude the arrival of a defender or two, especially a LB.

As for Henry, Marca says that he's moved to Barca for 24 mil euros:
http://www.calciomercato.com/index.php?c=21&a=46636

this could mean that Barca may be more willing to sell Etoo, who could well become a target, despite Suazo's expected arrival, especially if Gila leaves.

Also, Donati has moved to celtic for a little over 5 mil euros:
http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/index.php?action=read&id=64085

ganjarb
22-06-2007, 14:20
Hello guys after 1 week without to get in here.
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What happend?????? Why we signed Suazo????? I thought our transefer list strikers was firts Eto and then Henry. Suazo is very good striker, but why Galiani and Berlusconi lie us?
Why we didn't signed Eto or Henry?
After Suazo what players we are going for???

I think the directors did not lie. They are just being very secretive of their transfer strategy. They render minimum information to the public, basic - general statement about the players they rated highly, their targets, but no real details.
This strategy - i think - came from the fact that the transfer market /war has become very delicate since last year. We had our transfer target hijacked by our rival club. Since then, the real movements of breida and galliani have been rather silent.
remember that they reveal very little about their approach towards ronaldo? and nothing was given about their move on bonera. same thing here with suazo.
this is good, compared to broadcasting your strategy like madrid. you will only get more obstacles and competition that way.

Kaka1899
22-06-2007, 14:21
Madrid Scum
Real I Hate You!

Click Here For The Full Article (http://www.goal.com/en/articolo.aspx?contenutoid=334144)

Spanish daily AS continue to insist that Real Madrid will launch a massive offensive to land Kaka once Fabio Capello is sacked on Monday. The transfer strategy for the summer is already in place...
Ramon Calderon is unwilling to give up on landing Kaka, and believes that persistent pressure on Milan will tell.

AS report that Real Madrid have a 110 million euro transfer budget for this summer, and are ready to spend 80 of those on the Brazilian play-maker, making him the most expensive signing in football history.

Jose Angel Sanchez, a board member with contacts in Milan, and sporting director Pedja Mijatovic have been handed the license to step up their efforts.

The offensive will be launched on Monday, when it is expected that Fabio Capello will be sacked.

Bernd Schuster, the man supposed to replace him, has already given his endorsement saying: "Kaka is more important that Cristiano Ronaldo."

Diogo Kotscho, an associate of the player has admitted that transfer records would be torched if the move goes through: "If Madrid managed to sign Kaka, he would be the most expensive signing in football ever.

"Real Madrid's offer is really good, and until the 31st of August, it is impossible to rule out the fact that Kaka will be at the Bernabeu next season."

The report suggests that should this move go through, Real Madrid will use the rest of the budget will be used to land Heinze, Saviola, Dudek and Makelele.

However, Real Madrid also have a plan B in place, should the attempt fail: Cesc, Robben and Daniel Alves will enter into the fray instead.


This has to be harrasment they cant keep doing this there has to be rules against this kind of hounding a club. why dont Platini get off his ass and stop this!

Ghost
22-06-2007, 14:32
**Breaking News**

Henry has signed for Barcelona and we just watch :mad:

Kaka1899
22-06-2007, 14:40
**Breaking News**

Henry has signed for Barcelona and we just watch :mad:

:5ok: its all good because now maybe just maybe Sammi boy is changing his mind :)

rosoneri_11
22-06-2007, 14:41
So if Barca signed Henry, hoes gonna leave from Barca Eto or Ronaldinho?
I think that they can't play with Messi,Ronaldinho,Eto,Henry! Someone will leave from them.
But if we signed Suazo, where will one of barca's star will go? To other teams (i fear inter because they want to get rid of Adriano and they can do it with him as exchange + a litle of cach)
Is there any possibility Milan to sale Gila, to buy one of Eto Ronaldinho?
That summer transfer is really hot!

Ghost
22-06-2007, 14:44
Milan are just mighty and I know I shouldnt be talking about this but do we as Milan fans honestly believe we are going to defend our CL trophy?

We are probably talking about one of the most dangerous team in the world now:

Messi- R10-Eto-Henry-Deco. I hope to god they let go of either R10 or Eto because honestly I cant see how that team can loose. Kaka1899 I cant see Eto leaving Barca, especially after his words recently.

kastriot
22-06-2007, 14:50
Milan are just mighty and I know I shouldnt be talking about this but do we as Milan fans honestly believe we are going to defend our CL trophy?

We are probably talking about one of the most dangerous team in the world now:

Messi- R10-Eto-Henry-Deco. I hope to god they let go of either R10 or Eto because honestly I cant see how that team can loose. Kaka1899 I cant see Eto leaving Barca, especially after his words recently.

Do you know how Ronaldo,Kaka,Dinho,Adriano performed in WC

Only three of them can play together...not all five of them...We saw that Messi Dinho Deco Eto, maybe is too much, one has to leave once Henry joins

Kaka1899
22-06-2007, 14:51
Milan are just mighty and I know I shouldnt be talking about this but do we as Milan fans honestly believe we are going to defend our CL trophy?

We are probably talking about one of the most dangerous team in the world now:

Messi- R10-Eto-Henry-Deco. I hope to god they let go of either R10 or Eto because honestly I cant see how that team can loose. Kaka1899 I cant see Eto leaving Barca, especially after his words recently.

one word Sheva :)

kastriot
22-06-2007, 14:52
**Breaking News**

Henry has signed for Barcelona and we just watch :mad:

Where did u get that info!!!

pls give me the source?

Hasan Rossonero
22-06-2007, 14:59
Where did u get that info!!!

pls give me the source?
It's all over the news. Take your pick:

www.soccernet.com
www.bbc.com
www.gazzetta.it
www.calciomercato.com

Hasan Rossonero
22-06-2007, 15:02
I personally didn't want Henry.

Ghost
22-06-2007, 15:06
I personally didn't want Henry.

lol Hasan with all respect would you rather have Sheva back?

Hasan Rossonero
22-06-2007, 15:10
lol Hasan with all respect would you rather have Sheva back?
:D

No. But I think that's what's going to happen.

Ghost
22-06-2007, 15:11
The David Suazo saga took another shock twist today! His contract clause releases him to Inter, so Milan pour their efforts into signing Ronaldinho.

Cagliari had agreed to sell the Honduran hitman to the Rossoneri in a £10m deal, but the player had already put pen to paper with the Nerazzurri.

Initially this was considered to be an illegal move, but after agent Giovanni Branchini met with Milan directors this afternoon, new details emerged.

It’s claimed that a clause in Suazo’s contract with Cagliari releasing him for £8m is valid for Italian sides as well as overseas.

With this in mind, the Sardinians have little choice but to hand him over to Inter for a lower price than that offered by their rivals plus half of Under-21 international Robert Acquafresca.

“From what I’ve seen recently we can say that there is a clear desire for the player to join the only club that courted him for a long time – i.e. Inter,” said President Massimo Moratti.

“We must make the most of that, besides our rapport with the others involved. We will see how it pans out.”

However, that is not the only development this evening. With Thierry Henry on the verge of completing his Barcelona transfer, this strongly suggests that the Spaniards will release either Samuel Eto’o or Ronaldinho.

Milan have publicly stated on numerous occasions that they are their primary targets and so losing Suazo will be considered more motivation to go all-out for one of the international stars.

If Lionel Messi is to be used as a supply line for Eto’o and Henry, then that means Ronaldinho is more likely to depart the Nou Camp.

The Brazilian has long had a fractious relationship with teammates, his club and Coach Frank Rijkaard, while he has regularly hinted that Milan would be a good move.
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This gets more interesting by the minute

zlatanov
22-06-2007, 15:13
I personally would prefer Shave over Henry, more or less the same age, as Sheva is at least proven in Serie A and CL, Henry ... I am not sure about him even for CL games let alone Italy.
And Sheva knows Milan inside out.

Etoo would probably be a smarter choice than any of those but that's mostly due to his younger age, other than that, Sheva all the way if he was Etoo's age.

ForeverMilan
22-06-2007, 15:13
i wonder what our C plan is(considering eto'o was A,Suazo was B)

Hasan Rossonero
22-06-2007, 15:14
I personally would prefer Shave over Henry, more or less the same age, as Sheva is at least proven in Serie A and CL, Henry ... I am not sure about him even for CL games let alone Italy.
And Sheva knows Milan inside out.

Etoo would probably be a smarter choice than any of those but that's mostly due to his younger age, other than that, Sheva all the way if he was Etoo's age.
Me too. I'd go with Gillette.

Bosniaco
22-06-2007, 15:14
Wow looks like we are going to lose Suazo...

Tony29.
22-06-2007, 15:19
So....from Milan owning Inter we finished at Suazo prefering Inter and refusing to sign for Milan. Players started preffering Inter over the European champions :rolleyes:
I expect 2-3 new Inter fans to join MM tonight :)

ForeverMilan
22-06-2007, 15:22
regarding Calderon i have some concerns,since he calculates what revenue brings kaka to them when they signed him,it shows us that he wont give up on kaka easily.

then,i hope our C plan is not Makaay.

i can accept Pato even if i see we have some chance in eto'o now.

rosoneri_11
22-06-2007, 15:22
So....from Milan owning Inter we finished at Suazo prefering Inter and refusing to sign for Milan. Players started preffering Inter over the European champions :rolleyes:
I expect 2-3 new Inter fans to join MM tonight :)


What is your opinion Tony? Milan will go for Eto or R10? Will Milan sale Gila to buy one of them? Or what do you think they will do (not only strikers)?
Just your opinion.

Hasan Rossonero
22-06-2007, 15:23
I have to laugh at these reports. So our pursuing of Dino (or the intensity of it) hinged on Suazo's transfer? I doubt it. If we wanted Dinho, we must have been working towards it anyway.

zlatanov
22-06-2007, 15:25
I am not sure this "news" is really any dif than what was posted hours ago - even earlier there was mention of such a clause but it was not known if it is for Foreign teams only or not ... Cellino claimed it was for non-Italian teams only.

Also, Galliani and Suazo's agent met earlier today and both said after the meeting that there aren't any "frictions" between the two sides and the agent was very optimistic that there wouldn't be any problems Suazo to join Milan.

What was just mentioned on Channel 4 could be a new development but I still have the feeling it's just a reshuffle of earlier news.

Tony29.
22-06-2007, 15:28
What is your opinion Tony? Milan will go for Eto or R10? Will Milan sale Gila to buy one of them? Or what do you think they will do (not only strikers)?
Just your opinion.
Sorry, i have no idea
Milan is too unpredictable.


But whatever you do, whoever you buy or don't buy, you'll still finish above Inter in CL :)

rosoneri_11
22-06-2007, 15:30
Sorry, i have no idea
Milan is too unpredictable.


But whatever you do, whoever you buy or don't buy, you'll still finish above Inter in CL :)


Just your opinion Tony. I dont ask you to be a meduim! :grinser:

Hasan Rossonero
22-06-2007, 15:40
Just your opinion Tony. I dont want you to be a meduim! :grinser:
Ok guys my reasoning for thinking Sheva will return is simple.

I doubt Berlu and Galliani (who agreed) would say something like Sheva is 80% close to returning if it wasn't true.

I suspect us to make 3 signings. 2 of them big (Suazo is not big) and one of them to be driven by necessity.

We're going to be playing in half a dozen tournaments next year.

Tony29.
22-06-2007, 15:42
Just your opinion Tony. I dont ask you to be a meduim! :grinser:
Gila stays in Milan
Dinho stays in Barcelona
Eto'o goes to Milan, Inter or England
Someone totally unexpected - Deco, Gilberto Silva, De Rossi, Diarra joins Milan

rosoneri_11
22-06-2007, 15:45
Gila stays in Milan
Dinho stays in Barcelona
Eto'o goes to Milan, Inter or England
Someone totally unexpected - Deco, Gilberto Silva, De Rossi, Diarra joins Milan


Thanks Tony.

Hasan Rossonero
22-06-2007, 15:50
My guess:

Sheva comes to Milan
Edmilson or another combative midfielder comes to us

On transfer deadline day, Ronaldinho shows up at the Milanello. Milan sign him. :5ok:

Graeme C
22-06-2007, 15:50
what contract clause they saying? hes one with Milan? or cagliari one? i actually wonder if the bid for him was to just get inter in trouble or were we actually serious?
bit enoying tho.. i thought we were actually going to complete a signing for a change..

Graeme C
22-06-2007, 15:51
if just sheva rejoins il be a tad disapointed..

zlatanov
22-06-2007, 15:58
Etoo or Dinho to Milan
if Suazo goes to Inter, either Sheva or Quagliarella to Milan.
one of Emerson, Edmilson or Diarra to Milan with RO possibly going to Real M in return.
one of Zambrotta, less likely, or Abidal, more likely, to Milan ... and Lyon might also be an option for RO.

btw, I bet a smile on the radio that should Suazo go to Inter, by February of next year, he would be crying to Branchini to find him another club ;)

Tony29.
22-06-2007, 16:00
Thanks Tony.
Think in this direction :

WHo did Milan go after so far ?
You offered 14m Euro for Suazo and 17?m Euro for Tiago !
So, according to this Milan wants a Suazo type attacker who won't cost 20 or 30m , and a Tiago type midfielder who'll cost between 15-20m Euro.

Since Milan went for Suazo, i guess you don't need a Trez or RVN type of striker and it means you intend to keep both Gila and Pippo. And since you once settled for not an ultra expensive attacker like Suazo, i'm not sure if you'll go after Eto'o, who unlike Suazo, won't like to spend much time on the bench and who'll cost ~35m euro.
Going after Tiago clearly says you need someone who works a lot in midfield and that's why i excluded Dinho. Because (if you bought Tiago or you buy someone with similar caracteristics) with Dinho you'll be overcrowded with top quality midfielders ( Pirlo, "Tiago" , Ambrosini, Seedorf, Gattuso, Kaka, Ronaldinho)

This is imo, and that's why i think you'll get someone similar to Suazo, both in quality and cost, and someone similar to Tiago who won't cost 70m euro ;)

zlatanov
22-06-2007, 16:05
or think of it this way - Milan went for an inexpensive striker (Suazo) only after they realized signing etoo or Dinho (or Sheva) won't be an easy affair ... I see Suazo more as an insurance policy.

The Henry transfer has changed things around, IMO, as there would be too many "big egos" up front for Barca and one of Dinho or Etoo would have to go, I think, whether Franky, not the fat one, decides to stick to his tactics or not

rosoneri_11
22-06-2007, 16:05
Think in this direction :

WHo did Milan go after so far ?
You offered 14m Euro for Suazo and 17?m Euro for Tiago !
So, according to this Milan wants a Suazo type attacker who won't cost 20 or 30m , and a Tiago type midfielder who'll cost between 15-20m Euro.

Since Milan went for Suazo, i guess you don't need a Trez or RVN type of striker and it means you intend to keep both Gila and Pippo. And since you once settled for not an ultra expensive attacker like Suazo, i'm not sure if you'll go after Eto'o, who unlike Suazo, won't like to spend much time on the bench and who'll cost ~35m euro.
Going after Tiago clearly says you need someone who works a lot in midfield and that's why i excluded Dinho. Because (if you bought Tiago or you buy someone with similar caracteristics) with Dinho you'll be overcrowded with top quality midfielders ( Pirlo, "Tiago" , Ambrosini, Seedorf, Gattuso, Kaka, Ronaldinho)

This is imo, and that's why i think you'll get someone similar to Suazo, both in quality and cost, and someone similar to Tiago who won't cost 70m euro ;)



Hmmmmmmm :hmmm: Its gonna be a hot trasnfer summer. :firedev:

rosoneri_11
22-06-2007, 16:10
or think of it this way - Milan went for an inexpensive striker (Suazo) only after they realized signing etoo or Dinho (or Sheva) won't be an easy affair ... I see Suazo more as an insurance policy.

The Henry transfer has changed things around, IMO, as there would be too many "big egos" up front for Barca and one of Dinho or Etoo would have to go, I think, whether Franky, not the fat one, decides to stick to his tactics or not




So do you believe, that we will go for one more striker or AMC?
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If one of these come true, then i think Gila will leave! What do you think about that? Will Milan sell him or not?
Then we will have Inzaghi,Ronaldo,Suazo,+One more???? Borrielo will be sold.

Stezagud
22-06-2007, 16:14
a lot of talk in England that Henry will join Barca very soon for £16m, even the beeb are reporting it and saying it could even happen tommorow. Guess thats one less possibility to worry about...

zlatanov
22-06-2007, 16:17
Gila said he would stay even with the arrival of Suazo and Etoo too, I think.
All in all, however, I think Milan will sell him if he wants to leave.

A lot depends on the Suazo thing - still not clear what the terms of that clause are and even if Inter can't take advantage of it, Milan could still decide that keeping a player against his desire isn't worth it.

So, if Suazo goes to Inter, I think RO will be either loaned or sold, and Milan will get one of Dinho, Etoo, Sheva and possibly Quagliarella too (similar to Suazo and SHeva), especially if the one we get is Dinho, because Quagliarella is a very universal attacking mid/striker.
Pippo would be a 5th forward, IMO.

If we get Etoo, I think the attack will be Gila, Ronaldo, Etoo, Pippo.

rosoneri_11
22-06-2007, 16:28
Gila said he would stay even with the arrival of Suazo and Etoo too, I think.
All in all, however, I think Milan will sell him if he wants to leave.

A lot depends on the Suazo thing - still not clear what the terms of that clause are and even if Inter can't take advantage of it, Milan could still decide that keeping a player against his desire isn't worth it.

So, if Suazo goes to Inter, I think RO will be either loaned or sold, and Milan will get one of Dinho, Etoo, Sheva and possibly Quagliarella too (similar to Suazo and SHeva), especially if the one we get is Dinho, because Quagliarella is a very universal attacking mid/striker.
Pippo would be a 5th forward, IMO.

If we get Etoo, I think the attack will be Gila, Ronaldo, Etoo, Pippo.


You know what i can't undestand. Why Milan will sell Suazo to inter? Whats the reason to do that?

zlatanov
22-06-2007, 16:32
Milan cannot sell Suazo as he is still not our player (personal contract with Suazo is yet to be signed) ...
Milan could withdraw from the deal with cagliari if they, cagliari, manage to reach an agreement with Inter and Milan decides that they would rather not push for a player who, reportedly has his heart set on joining another team.

Then again, if that clause is indeed there, Inter could simply pay Suazo out of his contract and sign him whether Cagliari wants to sell to Inter or not.

rosoneri_11
22-06-2007, 16:38
Milan cannot sell Suazo as he is still not our player (personal contract with Suazo is yet to be signed) ...



How he is still not our player? At official milan site, acmilan.com says that: SUAZO TO MILAN
6/19/2007
The Honduran attacker David Suazo will wear the Milan jersey next season. His transfer from Cagliari to Rossonero was concluded after negotiations which took place last night.
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Hasan Rossonero
22-06-2007, 16:40
How he is still not our player? At official milan site, acmilan.com says that: SUAZO TO MILAN
6/19/2007
The Honduran attacker David Suazo will wear the Milan jersey next season. His transfer from Cagliari to Rossonero was concluded after negotiations which took place last night.
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:ilol:

Man, the whole production for the last two days is that while Milan have reached an agreement with Cagliari, Suazo is yet to sign. Moratti said that Suazo has signed with Inter, which is illegal.

The latest twist suggests that a clause in Suazo's contract stipulates that he can only be sold to Inter. I find this dubious, as I'm sure Milan and Cagliari would have been aware of this when making the deal.

rosoneri_11
22-06-2007, 16:46
:ilol:

Man, the whole production for the last two days is that while Milan have reached an agreement with Cagliari, Suazo is yet to sign. Moratti said that Suazo has signed with Inter, which is illegal.

The latest twist suggests that a clause in Suazo's contract stipulates that he can only be sold to Inter. I find this dubious, as I'm sure Milan and Cagliari would have been aware of this when making the deal.


I still can't understand this situation. At acmilan says he will wear Milans shirt! What are you saying,is a possibility that Milan will sale him to inter?

Karim
22-06-2007, 16:47
This is really becoming very awkward:
http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jun22q.html
Accordingly I note these words from the article:

"Cagliari had agreed to sell the Honduran hitman to the Rossoneri in a £10m deal, but the player had already put pen to paper with the Nerazzurri.


Initially this was considered to be an illegal move, but after agent Giovanni Branchini met with Milan directors this afternoon, new details emerged.


It’s claimed that a clause in Suazo’s contract with Cagliari releasing him for £8m is valid for Italian sides as well as overseas.


With this in mind, the Sardinians have little choice but to hand him over to Inter for a lower price than that offered by their rivals plus half of Under-21 international Robert Acquafresca."

Hasan Rossonero
22-06-2007, 16:49
I still can't understand this situation. At acmilan says he will wear Milans shirt! What are you saying,is a possibility that Milan will sale him to inter?
:ilol::ilol:

Milan don't own him yet. That message on the site is there because normally when Milan reaches an agreement with a club, the player's signature is a formality. I don't think many figured that this would be this complicated.

In short: right now Cagliari owns Suazo (as far as I can tell).

Giorgos
22-06-2007, 16:50
What about that?

http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jun22q.html

Inter-Suazo, 'Dinho-Milan!

The David Suazo saga took another shock twist today! His contract clause releases him to Inter, so Milan pour their efforts into signing Ronaldinho.

Cagliari had agreed to sell the Honduran hitman to the Rossoneri in a £10m deal, but the player had already put pen to paper with the Nerazzurri.


Initially this was considered to be an illegal move, but after agent Giovanni Branchini met with Milan directors this afternoon, new details emerged.


It’s claimed that a clause in Suazo’s contract with Cagliari releasing him for £8m is valid for Italian sides as well as overseas.


With this in mind, the Sardinians have little choice but to hand him over to Inter for a lower price than that offered by their rivals plus half of Under-21 international Robert Acquafresca.


“From what I’ve seen recently we can say that there is a clear desire for the player to join the only club that courted him for a long time – i.e. Inter,” said President Massimo Moratti.


“We must make the most of that, besides our rapport with the others involved. We will see how it pans out.”


However, that is not the only development this evening. With Thierry Henry on the verge of completing his Barcelona transfer, this strongly suggests that the Spaniards will release either Samuel Eto’o or Ronaldinho.


Milan have publicly stated on numerous occasions that they are their primary targets and so losing Suazo will be considered more motivation to go all-out for one of the international stars.


If Lionel Messi is to be used as a supply line for Eto’o and Henry, then that means Ronaldinho is more likely to depart the Nou Camp.


The Brazilian has long had a fractious relationship with teammates, his club and Coach Frank Rijkaard, while he has regularly hinted that Milan would be a good move.

rosoneri_11
22-06-2007, 16:52
:ilol::ilol:

Milan don't own him yet. That message on the site is there because normally when Milan reaches an agreement with a club, the player's signature is a formality. I don't think many figured that this would be this complicated.

In short: right now Cagliari owns Suazo (as far as I can tell).


All right then answer to that. Why it says that he will wear the Milans shirt, if Milan don't own him?

Giorgos
22-06-2007, 16:53
http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jun22p.html

Barca pip Inter to Henry

Barcelona are in negotiations to complete Inter target Thierry Henry’s transfer, but it could free up Samuel Eto’o or Ronaldinho for Serie A.

Late this evening Barca Vice-President Ferran Soriano confirmed that talks were on with Arsenal to finalise the details of the £16m move.


It is reported that a four-year contract has been agreed with the Frenchman, who had been linked with Milan and most recently Inter.


It is another blow for the Nerazzurri, who had hoped to pick up Henry after David Suazo opted to join Milan instead.


However, this transfer could well have a knock-on effect throughout the Serie A market, specifically for the two San Siro giants.


It was rumoured that the arrival of Henry would release either Eto’o or Ronaldinho for a summer move.


Milan have publicly stated that both Barcelona stars are on their wishlist, so the chances of the Rossoneri capturing one of them have risen sharply.


This is particularly true as Suazo has still not signed a contract with Milan. Although they have reached a £10m deal with Cagliari, the player had a personal agreement with Inter.


“There is no tension. I heard Milan’s proposals and will now explain them to the player,” said Suazo’s agent Giovanni Branchini after a meeting in Via Turati.

Hasan Rossonero
22-06-2007, 16:55
All right then answer to that. Why it says that he will wear the Milans shirt, if Milan don't own him?

This is like an Abbot and Costello routine. :D

Milan don't own him yet. That message on the site is there because normally when Milan reaches an agreement with a club, the player's signature is a formality. I don't think many figured that this would be this complicated.

This is the best answer I can give to that query.


Do you understand man? Don't hesitate to ask more questions.

rosoneri_11
22-06-2007, 16:59
This is like an Abbot and Costello routine. :D

Milan don't own him yet. That message on the site is there because normally when Milan reaches an agreement with a club, the player's signature is a formality. I don't think many figured that this would be this complicated.

This is the best answer I can give to that query.


Then it was a acmilan.com's fault that they post it when a transfer is not complished 100%!
What will happen if Suazo go to inter? and acmilan.com had write that he will wear milan's shirt. That will be a joke!

Hasan Rossonero
22-06-2007, 17:01
Then it was a acmilan.com's fault that they post it when a transfer is not complished 100%!
What will happen if Suazo go to inter? and acmilan.com had write that he will wear milan's shirt. That will be a joke!

Yes, yes it will.

The only one who will be happy is mzk.

hitmannq8
22-06-2007, 17:06
sup guys. sayin hello from san francisco (the most beautiful city ive seen).. wow the transfer season is heating up.. looks like henry is going to barca after all.. i never thought that would happen.. he finally realised that arsenal are just a small mediocre club and nothing more..

i dont know about dinho and eto'o.. i thought that they would both stay at barca, but now if henry goes, i have no clue..

milan had SUAZO TO MILAN on their webpage even before they officially signed him..thats the first time i've seen that and i think that it was some sort of a 'trick' that our management has been doing.. i think they just wanted to put inter in trouble or something.. our management would never do somethin so stupid like this unless there's a good reason..

anyway now that we have lost Suazo (which in my honest opinion was actually never in our plans), the pressure will be back on for them to sign someone.. i still hope that Gila will leave but i dont think it'll happen but I can't see us signing Dinho or Eto'o..

zlat why do you keep mentioning Quagliarella? are we even linked to him? i sure hope we sign him.. this kid is something that can give a new dimension to our team..i like him alot and i hope we get him but it doesnt look likely...

barca are also apparently on the verge of signing Chivu, can't we hijack that deal? he's an ideal CB to partner Nesta.. i think he wil be the best defender in the world in a few years..

Giorgos
22-06-2007, 17:12
It seems that we will finally loose him

Ghost
22-06-2007, 17:32
I think this summer is going to be really hot, a lot of unexpected stuff will be happening.

Graeme C
22-06-2007, 17:34
its been a bit confusing, i cant believe milan would sign anything with cagliari and be unaware of the buyout clause.

This kind of makes me think it was just a move to get the media spotlight on what Inter milan are doing, and to show they arent such a clean club. After we annouced the signing Moratti came out saying they already had a contract with him, and then the financial information also came out. It just smells a bit fishy for me...

If we have lost him, its really hes Loss really... i hope he does get suspended!

i agree with zlat, i like Quagliarella, and he is definately a better finisher than suazo is. Udinese now own 100% of his contract, and i dont think hes that happy about being there. If we make a move for anyone is yet to be seen..

nefremo
22-06-2007, 17:56
The transfer market hasn't even started yet and this seems to be the craziest summer in a while.
The whole Suazo saga seems very weird. I think that Suazo was only going to be a back up (or he will be a back up if he joins us), but I think that he will join Inter. Barca's Henry deal seems to be done which means that Inter wont give up on Suazo that easily, if in fact there was a clause releasing Suazo to talk to Inter and eventually sign a contract.
If Inter gets Suazo and Barca gets Henry, then I am almost positive we will get Ronaldinho or Eto'o.

My thaughts are........if we get Suazo.....then we will get a midfielder and a defender which will make Suazo+MF+DF! And I expect us to spend big on one of those remaining 2 positions.
If however we get Ronaldinho or Eto'o then we will only get another MF which we won't spend that big on. A defender may arrive but it will be either a free transfer or a really cheep back-up.

One thing is for sure...........this promises to be a very very interesting summer.

remote2book
22-06-2007, 18:03
ok this is stupid....i guess suazo is going to inter....wat da hell we better get dhino ...cuz galliani said if we sign suazo the trnasfer market is finished and since we didnt sign him we need eto'o or dihnio!!!1

nefremo
22-06-2007, 18:05
Don't even pay attention to what Galliani is saying. The guy is a lier. :grinser:

remote2book
22-06-2007, 18:12
yea dats true nefermo.....but juve also signed tiago...i mean wtf have we signed...we really need some1 and i hope now that henry has signed we go all out for R10...

Stitch
22-06-2007, 18:22
guys i'm off on a short holiday until wednesday or thursday... we better sign someone by the time i get back :D it would be lovely to check the news and find something like Dinho to milan - done deal :D

Warro Bantan
22-06-2007, 18:23
Wow...I leave my office for a few hours, and all hell breaks loose...I called my friend in Miami, who had to pull off the road (he is a big Arsenal fan)...I am glad that I wasnt there to see him cry...he took it really hard...

But the whole Suazo issue, for me, opens up sooooo many wonderful opportunities...primarily being that we will now get Ronaldinho (IMO), and with a lesser probability, Etoo..

Rationale:
Etoo says he doesnt want to leave Barca, regardless of who arrives, yet Rijkaard plays with one striker...so if he considers this, he may very well be out...and to either Inter (who just bought Suazo, and so has waaay too many strikers, unless they part with Adriano, for Etoo in exchange...which may very well happen), or to Milan.

Ronaldinho says he doesnt want to leave Barca, but also states that anything can happen in the future...an almost surefire statement that says: I am willing to leave (again IMO).
Hence Etoo to Inter for Adriano, may result in:
a) Ronaldinho staying or
b) Ronaldinho following Etoo out of Barca, but to the other half of Milan, the red and black half.

All in all, I think all of this points to Ronaldinho or Etoo coming to us...the former more certain than the latter...

And I agree with all..this is going to be one simmering silly season!!!

BRING IT ON!!


.

Karim
22-06-2007, 19:25
We GOT HIM FINALLY I HOPE:

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=334738

Trequartista
22-06-2007, 19:37
Ok suazo could be a good signing, but come on barca are getting henry for 16 million pounds, we didnt even bid for him and galliani said he would of gone to us last yr! thats bulls**t!

He was never coming to us, we need a big signing not suazo!

anyways thats my thoughts lets get a big name ... we havent replaced sheva! ronaldo is not a replacement! inzaghi wont have a good season next yr and gila is not bad he is just not a big game player and will prob never be great

I am a huge fan of milan , watch every game etc but with our financial power its time we get a present!

p.s im not even going to get into our ageing defence!

forza milan!

Ghost
22-06-2007, 19:44
As good as Henry is you tell me what he could of done at Milan considering his age?

He is a great player - Yes, One of my favorites - Yes but he only has another what 3/4 good years left in him plus as he hits 30 soon what will happen to his pace? His most prize possession was his pace, on the other hand Eto is much younger and could offer more years.

Inter ending up with Sauzo is a blessing in disguise if you ask me as we can concentrate on other better players in his position.

Trequartista
22-06-2007, 19:56
i agree with you but henry is not old lets say he does have 3 good yrs in him, 3 good yrs of henry in our team would be amazing you think if we buy eto or ronaldinho they will be with us for 5 plus years i highly doubt it. but not getting suazo is a blessing in disguise we need a big name star striker then having gila and inzaghi on the bench aint so bad

As good as Henry is you tell me what he could of done at Milan considering his age?

He is a great player - Yes, One of my favorites - Yes but he only has another what 3/4 good years left in him plus as he hits 30 soon what will happen to his pace? His most prize possession was his pace, on the other hand Eto is much younger and could offer more years.

Inter ending up with Sauzo is a blessing in disguise if you ask me as we can concentrate on other better players in his position.

SANT
22-06-2007, 20:52
We GOT HIM FINALLY I HOPE:

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=334738

Seems like Milan is dropping Suazo after it was confirmed that Barcelona had signed Henry... which could mean...

Suazo > from Milan to Inter
Henry > from Arsenal to Barcelona
Eto'o > from Barcelona to Milan

GilAttack [11]
22-06-2007, 21:45
What is funny is that now it seems that Suazo is just another player because he signed for Inter when 24 hours ago he was such an incredible player.

:rolleyes:

Nordahl
22-06-2007, 22:10
I am a huge fan of milan , watch every game etc but with our financial power its time we get a present!

p.s im not even going to get into our ageing defence!

forza milan!


Fully agree.

zlatanov
23-06-2007, 00:31
....

zlat why do you keep mentioning Quagliarella? are we even linked to him? i sure hope we sign him.. this kid is something that can give a new dimension to our team..i like him alot and i hope we get him but it doesnt look likely...
that's one excellent reason right there :D
I keep mentioning him because, should Suazo end up at Inter, he would be one of the few pretty good and serie-A tested strikers out there for whom we won't have to break the bank or do a Real M on his current team to lure him away with the smell of cash.

I would expect Dinho, Etoo and Sheva to be first priority but these are deals that depend on many different factors, many of which we have little control on ... it might happen but it might not go thru either, and that's where Quagliarella could come in, I think, as a good, not-so-expensive solution.
barca are also apparently on the verge of signing Chivu, can't we hijack that deal? he's an ideal CB to partner Nesta.. i think he wil be the best defender in the world in a few years..
not sure Roma would like to sell to an Italian team, and if they do, it would have to be an offer they can't refuse. That's probably the main reason why he didn't go to Inter already given how favourable the circumstances around the Pizarro deal were.
After Puyol's serious injury, he's already Barca's, it seems.

Trequartista
23-06-2007, 04:18
i agree, but i never said he was great! but i think is a very good player , but funny how ppl are like that , i guess it shoes how one eyed our fans are in a good way though!

']What is funny is that now it seems that Suazo is just another player because he signed for Inter when 24 hours ago he was such an incredible player.

:rolleyes:

zeshkani
23-06-2007, 05:19
what is hapening with suazo now hi decided for inter

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=334862

mrki
23-06-2007, 05:37
Man we are such a cheep club when it comes to mercato...pathetic.

Now they'll try to bring back Sheva for like 10 mln I guess, or offer 25 for Eto'o. Then we'll get a swap deal Oli-Emerson and invest 3 mln in one young player from Argentina....

ForeverMilan
23-06-2007, 06:01
Milan: Oliveira per arrivare a Villa?
23.06.2007 10.05 di Francesco Letizia
16 milioni più Ricardo Oliveira, ex valenciano qualche anno fa: è questa l'offerta che il Milan sta preparando per la punta del Valencia e della Nazionale spagnola, David Villa. Dopo la beffa Suazo, i rossoneri sono alla ricerca di un attaccante di livello e lo spagnolo, classe '81, viene ritenuto uno dei primi del mondo.

my choices now

1-Et'o yet looks very unlikely
2-Pato
3-David Vila

i think someone has to pay suazo case from milan management,they made himself looks like clowns

i can understand Suazo,this contract is his last big contract and however its quite normal he would like to earn more at inter since inter doubled our offer to suazo.

mrki
23-06-2007, 06:07
We were made fools on this one with Suazo, Galliani wasnt carefull and underestimated Moratti. Inter's attack: Ibra, Suazo, Crespo, Adriano...
Barca: Eto'o, Henry, Ronaldinho, Messi. I dont know what's worse to play against....

We need to act and I think we now have a chance that Barca will sell Eto'o or Ronaldinho. I would prefer Eto'o, and definately NOT VILLA!! please dont buy this guy, never!

Oliveira is on his way to Madrid, that can mean we'' eventually end up with Emerson. and NEDVED is retirting!!!! Also, Juve will go for Cannavaro again as it seems theya'll loose Zaragoza's CB. If Juve loose Camoranesi-Nedved they'll be in some big problems...

Im starting to loose hope that we'll finnaly have some decent mercato. All of our players want it, even Gattuso spoke how nice it would be...not to mention Carlo.

King tiger
23-06-2007, 06:15
http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=334965



arrrgh

Hasan Rossonero
23-06-2007, 06:32
Cagliari: Inter have Suazo
Saturday 23 June, 2007
David Suazo is free to join Inter after rejecting the move to Milan, confirms Cagliari President Massimo Cellino.

Last night there was another shock turnaround in the Suazo saga. Having been promised to the Nerazzurri, then sold to the Rossoneri for £10m, he convinced Cagliari to change their minds and go back to his original plan.

“Suazo called me at 21.30 and said he wants to go to Inter,” announced patron Cellino.

“Fighting back tears he explained that, aside from the medical he already underwent, he is determined to complete this transfer because Inter have been courting him for months.

"Roberto Mancini called him several times and made him feel very enthusiastic about the move.”

In the end, the player’s intent won out, so the announced £10m agreement between the clubs has been scrapped.

“Even if he appreciates Milan’s gesture, Suazo is afraid that they only wanted to put a spanner in the works for Inter.

“He didn’t even give me time to answer back, he sounded extremely certain. I can only say that at this point I will leave the player free to make his path.”

Cellino was accused of playing the two San Siro clubs against each other, but insists Inter had no right to complain.

“I acted professionally with both Inter and Milan,” he told the ‘Gazzetta dello Sport.’ “At a certain stage it seemed that the negotiations with Massimo Moratti’s side were at a dead end.”

The Cagliari patron confirmed that the turning point was provided by a clause in Suazo’s contract – signed last year – that allows him to walk away to a club of his choosing for £9.4m. At first it was believed this only applied to overseas sides, but the Italian inclusion proved decisive.

“Now that clause means I will get the cash and perhaps not even Robert Acquafresca as part of the transfer. I certainly won’t go to demand him. At least in this whole affair we’ve shown that I had asked Milan for the same £9.4m – not a penny more.”

Under-21 international Acquafresca will join the Sardinians in a co-ownership deal as part of the move originally agreed before Milan’s intervention.

An official announcement of Suazo’s switch to Inter is expected over the weekend.

-------------

Well, it seems we lost a good player. Now I think the management will try to get a bigger name.

I listed the players I think we will end up with, but fellow Milanisti, we should be prepared for absolutely no transfer market activity also. I personally think that it's 70-30. 70% that we will make moves, 30% that we won't.

Graeme C
23-06-2007, 06:50
real want Oliviera, or Oliviera wants real. I say let him go! We would be better off playing aubameyang.

Jim_UK
23-06-2007, 06:55
With Henry gone and Wenger more than likely to go, now is the time to raid Arsenal with their future widely uncertain. Toure, Gallas, Eboue, Rosicky and Van Persie are all players that could improve our squad.

ZvonimirVukic
23-06-2007, 07:10
suazo goes to inter...official on www.acmilan.com

ghostweed
23-06-2007, 07:20
Calciomercato seem to be suggesting that the main obstacle to Eto'o 's move to Milan is his salary. Eto'o seemingly would want E8m, which is above Milan's salary cap, and would therefore require Milan to revise their whole salary policy. If Eto'o lowered his demands then maybe the move could happen, but why would he do that when clearly the move would not be his will; he likes Barca and makes more money there than he would in Milan. To me this points to a fundamental problem for Milan: to make a showstopper signing they will have to be prepared to revise the whole salary cap thing. Or you buy future talents from the feeder clubs, but not from a club like Barca.

hwmook
23-06-2007, 07:25
We were made fools on this one with Suazo, Galliani wasnt carefull and underestimated Moratti. Inter's attack: Ibra, Suazo, Crespo, Adriano...
Barca: Eto'o, Henry, Ronaldinho, Messi. I dont know what's worse to play against....



I can say with certainty, kaka, seedorf behind ronaldo is better than both barca and inter. not to mention inzaghi and gila on the bench.

I personally never think highly of Eto'o, his strike rate is even worse than gila and i can't understand how Eto'o can be rated so much higher than gila. He miss more open goals than gila and doesn't score nice goals like gila. The only thing he is good for is his pace and his tendency to drop back.

The only thing missing in our attack is a sheva type of player and ronaldo is here for this reason. either we can a new goal poacher or trust gila to do the job next season and our attack is good enough. I would rather get drogba than Eto'o. RO is a player like Eto'o and i am quite sure such players can't fit into our teams.

I hope the management know how to spend the money wisely instead of just some big money move. A player i would definitely like is Chivu but knowing Roma, we have very little change of getting him unless we overpay.....

Ghost
23-06-2007, 07:44
Im loosing hope.

mrki
23-06-2007, 07:44
So lets overpay for once!! :)

If we really cant get Eto'o, lost Henry, cant get Adriano for sure.... lets sign that Pato boy and grow him as we can all see how good he is. Revising whole wage budget for one player is not a good thing, and with Pato,Gila,Pippo,Ronaldo we can still have great attack. One player instead of Oli is needed - let the games begin!

Also, im sure that we can excange Oli to Emerson and that would boost our midfield nicely.

Our eternal target Torres is off to L'pool as it seems...for 36 mln. That is way too much for him...

Graeme C
23-06-2007, 07:51
we not allowed to get pato this summer as hes ownly 17 yeah?

i would try

a) Eto
b) Sheva
c) Quagliarella

if we cant get any of them il put my boots on! :5ok:

Our transfer campaigns arent ruthless enough, i dont want to start adopting Real tatics. I dont know whats happened, 5 years ago we just paid for who we wanted. Now we struggle to get deals done.

ForeverMilan
23-06-2007, 08:03
we have a perfect place for Pato where he can grow and improve his skills.

Regarding shevchenko,now Milan has to pay everything they demanded,since we just have shevchenko left,as for shevchenko,he is earning 9-10 m euros at chealse and however at milan we have salary cap,which could force him reduce his wages,i doubt he could accept that.

Pato+Quagliarella fits the bill

yet i dont expect nothing from berlusconi and galliani anymore.

they talks,giving promises to fans,even they said to players that they had nice surprises,in the end we take nothing and however its sad but true it comes to working,galliani fade away.

Giorgos
23-06-2007, 08:12
Sheva i want Sheva, not to remind me the old times, he knows Milan very well, our players way of playing also and Serie A....

Mehdi
23-06-2007, 08:13
we not allowed to get pato this summer as hes ownly 17 yeah?

i would try

a) Eto
b) Sheva
c) Quagliarella

if we cant get any of them il put my boots on! :5ok:

Our transfer campaigns arent ruthless enough, i dont want to start adopting Real tatics. I dont know whats happened, 5 years ago we just paid for who we wanted. Now we struggle to get deals done.

True but we're Champions of Europe and we have a phenomenal squad. We wouldn't be talking of the need for a striker if Gilardino didn't suck balls as much as he did last season and has everyone forgot about Ronaldo? We're ok in attack, as long as Gilardino recovers his form. I'm more concerned about getting a centre back.

Giorgos
23-06-2007, 08:14
Celtic capture Donati

http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jun23g.html

Former Milan and Atalanta midfielder Massimo Donati has agreed his transfer to Celtic, confirmed the Scottish club.

The 26-year-old had been in negotiations with the Parkhead outfit and it’s believed the deal has been struck for £3m.


“We are delighted that Massimo has signed for the club,” a Celtic spokesperson told BBC Scotland.


“He is a player of real quality and we’re sure he will be a great addition to our squad.”


Donati leaves Italy after spells at Atalanta – where he was part of their famed youth academy – Torino, Parma, Sampdoria and Messina.


Although owned by Milan, he only ever made 17 Serie A appearances for the club in 2001-02, spending the rest of his career on loan around the country.


Donati’s departure means a change of strategy for the Rossoneri, as Vice-President Adriano Galliani had stated he would return to the club this summer, ruling out the signature of another midfielder.


Having seemingly lost David Suazo to Inter, this suggests they are pouring all their resources into a bid for Barcelona star Ronaldinho.


As for Celtic, they are also in negotiations with Sampdoria over Italian international Gennaro Delvecchio.

Ghost
23-06-2007, 08:15
On another note early last year I bought a Milan/Sheva jersey - What happened in the summer?

Starting of this season I bought a Arsenal/Henry jersey - What happened now?

Early this year I bought a Milan/Kaka jersey - I hope this doesn't mean anything, lol ive learnt my lesson no more jerseys.

Giorgos
23-06-2007, 08:17
True but we're Champions of Europe and we have a phenomenal squad. We wouldn't be talking of the need for a striker if Gilardino didn't suck balls as much as he did last season and has everyone forgot about Ronaldo? We're ok in attack, as long as Gilardino recovers his form. I'm more concerned about getting a centre back.

Nesta, Bonera, Maldini, Kaladze... :5ok:

But i am not at all negative to buy another one at least to play for some calcio games and in games of CL which are not so important.

Giorgos
23-06-2007, 08:19
End of road for Nedved?

http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jun23j.html[QUOTE]

End of road for a great player, we will miss you Pavel....

Pavel Nedved has said he’ll make his announcement next week and it’s reported the Juventus hero will hang up his boots.

“If there is no meeting with Juve, then Pavel will certainly retire,” revealed agent Mino Raiola in a warning to the club.


“He is capable of just about anything, but I will do everything I can to encourage him to keep playing.”


The midfielder had already considered retirement last summer after the 2006 World Cup, but opted to stay on to help Juve return to the top flight after their demotion in the Calciopoli scandal.


Now that promotion has been achieved and many new names are being signed for the club – including latest arrivals Tiago Mendes and Sergio Almiron – Nedved could opt to call it a day.


A meeting has been set up with the Bianconeri directors for next week, but issues over the length of his contract and promises of a future job as a director for the club may provide stumbling blocks.


Today’s newspapers in Italy report that Juventus are preparing for a 2007-08 without Nedved by seeking out Hamburg midfield dynamo Rafael Van der Vaart.


The Czech international and 2003 European Player of the Year has confirmed he will make a decision before June 30.


Nedved turns 35 in August and has been at Juventus since 2001, having previously played for Lazio, Sparta Prague and Dukla Prague

Mehdi
23-06-2007, 08:23
Nesta, Bonera, Maldini, Kaladze... :5ok:

But i am not at all negative to buy another one at least to play for some calcio games and in games of CL which are not so important.

Bonera is rubbish, Kaladze makes too many mistakes, Maldini can't turn and his body is breaking down and Nesta always misses 10 games a season through injury. We need a centre back and playmaker as cover for Kaka'. We don't really need a striker.

zlatanov
23-06-2007, 08:28
Our transfer campaigns arent ruthless enough, i dont want to start adopting Real tatics. I dont know whats happened, 5 years ago we just paid for who we wanted. Now we struggle to get deals done.
it's called account management and finacial awareness so that we don't end up like Parma, Lazio, Roma, you name it.

Also, Silvio is no longer playing the role of a blank cheque Galliani can write on whenever he feels like it ... bar from super stransfers like Etoo, Dinho, etc, the club has to take care of that themselves.
I guess it's namely because of those "we just paid for who we wanted years" that Milan has to take good care of it's oun finances as a club and not fully depend on Berlusconi.

And last but not least, isn't quite curious that our successful period started at basically the same time the free-spending and overpaying one ended? I guess there is more to successfully running a club than just throwing bundles of cash at players and agents and securing the financial future of other clubs.

relax guys, Milan is strong and will be even stronger ... the summer has just started.
"Losing" Suazo isn't really a loss as he was never an intended target to begin with and getting him would have been more like an added bonus than anything else given that he was destined to go to Inter for months before Cagliari offered him to us.

Hasan Rossonero
23-06-2007, 08:28
OFFICIAL: Milan release Suazo
Saturday 23 June, 2007
Milan have officially announced they are pulling out of their contract for David Suazo, as he had already signed for Inter.

After Cagliari President Massimo Cellino admitted that a clause in the striker’s contract allowed him to be released for £9.4m to a club of his choice, the Rossoneri had little choice but to accept the ruling.

“Milan have a contract with Cagliari Calcio for the co-ownership rights to David Suazo,” read a statement on the website.

“However, later taking into account that the player had already signed a contract with Inter, we communicate that we are pulling out of the negotiations.

“Milan also wish to underline that they acted fairly in the affair and in full conformity of the national and international sporting rules.”

So now the only remaining piece of the puzzle is for Inter to announce the arrival of Suazo, which is expected over the weekend.

Originally it had been deemed an illegal move for the Nerazzurri to put pen to paper with a player who was still under contract, but it emerged that the clause released him for both overseas clubs and those within Italy.

“He didn’t even give me time to answer back, he sounded extremely certain,” noted Cagliari President Massimo Cellino. “I can only say that at this point I will leave the player free to make his path.”

This leaves Milan clutching at straws, particularly after news from Spanish paper ‘Marca’ this morning claiming that flop Ricardo Oliveira has requested a move to Real Madrid.

Yet this does all point in the same direction – that all of the European Champions’ funds will be poured into snatching a top star to play alongside Kaka and Ronaldo.

With Thierry Henry going to Barcelona for £16m, that leaves the door open for either Ronaldinho or Samuel Eto’o to walk away.

Milan have made no secret of their interest in the two Blaugrana players, although there are also options such as Chelsea’s Didier Drogba and former San Siro hero Andriy Shevchenko.

Jim_UK
23-06-2007, 08:39
Villa has also been linked with us. Though nothing on Huntelaar yet.

Graeme C
23-06-2007, 08:41
although i like Huntelaar i rather wait until next season to get him, get him when inzaghi leaves Milan.

Hasan Rossonero
23-06-2007, 08:49
it's called account management and finacial awareness so that we don't end up like Parma, Lazio, Roma, you name it.

Also, Silvio is no longer playing the role of a blank cheque Galliani can write on whenever he feels like it ... bar from super stransfers like Etoo, Dinho, etc, the club has to take care of that themselves.
I guess it's namely because of those "we just paid for who we wanted years" that Milan has to take good care of it's oun finances as a club and not fully depend on Berlusconi.

And last but not least, isn't quite curious that our successful period started at basically the same time the free-spending and overpaying one ended? I guess there is more to successfully running a club than just throwing bundles of cash at players and agents and securing the financial future of other clubs.

relax guys, Milan is strong and will be even stronger ... the summer has just started.
"Losing" Suazo isn't really a loss as he was never an intended target to begin with and getting him would have been more like an added bonus than anything else given that he was destined to go to Inter for months before Cagliari offered him to us.
Fair points as always.

Also I don't think the salary cap is hard and fast, just that we never really had a need to break it. However, if we're really going for Dinho, then I suspect the club will break and probably set it higher.

Finally these are player salaries:
il più ricco è Ronaldinho (8 milioni) seguito da Ibrahimovic, Shevchenko e Ballack, tutti a 6,5. Kakà è quinto, appena davanti a Vieira (5,6) e Cristiano Ronaldo (5,6). (source: www.gazzetta.it)

I don't think anyone earns what Real are RUMOURED to be offering. So our salary cap of 6.5 (spread out over 5-6 players) is at best lucrative and at worst competitive.

I am a little dispirited by our lack of urgency, but I still trust our management. Forza Milan!

hwmook
23-06-2007, 09:02
Bonera is rubbish, Kaladze makes too many mistakes, Maldini can't turn and his body is breaking down and Nesta always misses 10 games a season through injury.

Its funny how we won the UCL with a bunch of worthless players as you have so clearly highlighted. :grinser:

hwmook
23-06-2007, 09:03
I am a little dispirited by our lack of urgency, but I still trust our management. Forza Milan!

The last time our management was urgent, we end up with RO. I hope the management doesn't have this sense of urgency. :grinser:

zlatanov
23-06-2007, 09:03
Its funny how we won the UCL with a bunch of worthless players as you have so clearly highlighted. :grinser:
it's called luck, hwmook, it was just luck ...

*thinking of Tony's sigi* :D

mrki
23-06-2007, 10:12
Bronzetti is again saying that Milan will go for Eto'o or Ronaldinho, but I dont expect anything anymore from Galliani as he looks lost just like last 2 summers. The man needed ages and Berlusconi's help to sign Oddo, he'll need Gods help to sign Ronaldinho or Eto'o.

Tony29.
23-06-2007, 10:18
NEDVED is retirting!!!! Also, Juve will go for Cannavaro again as it seems theya'll loose Zaragoza's CB. If Juve loose Camoranesi-Nedved they'll be in some big problems...

Nedved is retiring every summer since Euro 2004. He's 35, still playing great tho, but losing a 35 years old player doesn't mean Juve will be in big trouble.
I don't think he will retire, though. After playing a serie B season i doubt he'll like to say goodbuy without tasting top football again.
The only way he can retire is if the managment wants him to, and i don't think they'll want him out concidering he's ireplaceble. ( or replaceble only by some 30m euro player.... something Juve can't allow now)

Graeme C
23-06-2007, 10:28
suazo could get a 6 month ban! hahahhaha

zlatanov
23-06-2007, 10:33
Bronzetti is again saying that Milan will go for Eto'o or Ronaldinho, but I dont expect anything anymore from Galliani as he looks lost just like last 2 summers. The man needed ages and Berlusconi's help to sign Oddo, he'll need Gods help to sign Ronaldinho or Eto'o.
well, as one recent article suggested, with that Kaka jersey saying "I belong to Jesus", God might be closer than you think ;)
:D

btw, there were some rumours on tuttomercato of a possible transfer romance between Milan and Inter, now that the relations are back to being "beautiful" with the Suazo saga ending with Milan deciding not to stand in Inter's way, and the names thrown in were that of Samuel and even Adriano.
who knows, in the name of the renewed good old friendship, Moratti could once again get a Milan fanclub named after him :D

Hasan Rossonero
23-06-2007, 10:34
Bronzetti is again saying that Milan will go for Eto'o or Ronaldinho, but I dont expect anything anymore from Galliani as he looks lost just like last 2 summers. The man needed ages and Berlusconi's help to sign Oddo, he'll need Gods help to sign Ronaldinho or Eto'o.

Hey man...source?

Hasan Rossonero
23-06-2007, 10:35
well, as one recent article suggested, with that Kaka jersey saying "I belong to Jesus", God might be closer than you think ;)
:D

btw, there were some rumours on tuttomercato of a possible transfer romance between Milan and Inter, now that the relations are back to being "beautiful" with the Suazo saga ending with Milan deciding not to stand in Inter's way, and the names thrown in were that of Samuel and even Adriano.
who knows, in the name of the renewed good old friendship, Moratti could once again get a Milan fanclub named after him :D
:grinser: :grinser:

zlatanov
23-06-2007, 10:36
Hey man...source?
the most relaible one :D:
http://www.calciomercato.it/dettaglioNewsCategoria.asp?hdnIdCategoria=2&hdnId=9220

btw, here's a link to that Samuel/Adriano rumour:
http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/index.php?action=read&id=64170

Ghost
23-06-2007, 11:32
I know a lot of you are saying we should chill out and just wait for the magic Milan will do, but to me I think we have been long overdue a talented player. I really do hope Silvio makes us happy.

Giorgos
23-06-2007, 11:33
What's you opinion about Mario Gomez?....

mrki
23-06-2007, 11:49
From Tuttomercato, interesting stuff!

Milan, i tifosi insistono : "Vogliamo Ronaldinho"
23.06.2007 15.52 di Francesco Letizia
Solo pochi giorni fa avevamo dato voce alla petizione (sotto il link) di tifosi del Milan, segnalataci da molti lettori, per l'acquisto di Ronaldinho Gaucho: non possiamo quindi non continuare a seguire con simpatia l'iniziativa, specie dopo gli ultimi sviluppi del mercato rossonero con la vicenda Suazo. Sfondato il muro delle 1500 firme, i fans rossoneri continuano a chiedere alla loro dirigenza un "Mercato da Campioni d'Europa": rimarrà un desiderio, o in Via Turati si sta già muovendo qualcosa di grosso? Difficile dirlo, anche se al momento lo scotto per la beffa Suazo sembra bruciare molto ai tifosi milanisti, almeno a giudicare dal consistente tamtam di email che sta coinvolgendo anche noi di TMW.

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Exactly like that, "Mercato da Campioni d'Europa", and nothing less! And we are not acting like that...

zlatanov
23-06-2007, 12:00
What's you opinion about Mario Gomez?....
I presume you are referring to Stuttgart's striker, right?
If him, he is a highly-rated, talented player but young and hugely unproven, I think, at least for a club like Milan.
has the frame of a Trezeguet-type of striker but is not tested in Italy or outside Stuttgart for that matter, let alone Europe, and has been arond for a relatively short period of time so there is nothing to say he would be able to repete this season with consistency ... and the club's president came out not long ago and slapped a 20-25 mil pricetag on Gomez, so my guess is he would go to Bayern in 2-3 years when they have enough of Toni.

zlatanov
23-06-2007, 12:01
From Tuttomercato, interesting stuff!

Milan, i tifosi insistono : "Vogliamo Ronaldinho"
23.06.2007 15.52 di Francesco Letizia
Solo pochi giorni fa avevamo dato voce alla petizione (sotto il link) di tifosi del Milan, segnalataci da molti lettori, per l'acquisto di Ronaldinho Gaucho: non possiamo quindi non continuare a seguire con simpatia l'iniziativa, specie dopo gli ultimi sviluppi del mercato rossonero con la vicenda Suazo. Sfondato il muro delle 1500 firme, i fans rossoneri continuano a chiedere alla loro dirigenza un "Mercato da Campioni d'Europa": rimarrà un desiderio, o in Via Turati si sta già muovendo qualcosa di grosso? Difficile dirlo, anche se al momento lo scotto per la beffa Suazo sembra bruciare molto ai tifosi milanisti, almeno a giudicare dal consistente tamtam di email che sta coinvolgendo anche noi di TMW.

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Exactly like that, "Mercato da Campioni d'Europa", and nothing less! And we are not acting like that...
Marko, are you sure you don't have a finger in the prep of this letter? :D

I guess you don't cause it mentions only one player and that's not Zambrotta :grinser:

Mufasa
23-06-2007, 12:04
Lets wait until august 31!!

Thats when Milan Hit the market! :bri:


Nesta..Gila...

MOOD
23-06-2007, 12:10
btw, here's a link to that Samuel/Adriano rumour:
http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/index.php?action=read&id=64170

oh no please not samuel. his realy unappealing... and he cant play football.

Mufasa
23-06-2007, 12:14
I think MIlan Retires fight for Suazo..

cause there are many chances (again) now that Barcelona get Henry, that one of the Bigs Eto'o or Dinho leave...

I cant figure it out how Rijkaard could make play Eto'o, Dinho, Henry and Messi Together.

Milanfan_101
23-06-2007, 12:25
Here is the official news report.

Thierry Henry close to Barça

www.fcbarcelona.cat

FC Barcelona have reached an agreement with Arsenal for the transfer of French striker Thierry Henry. The player should agree persaonal terms with Barça in the next few hours.

FC Barcelona and Arsenal have agreed on the conditions of the transfer of Thierry Henry. All that remains is to complete the details of the deal between Barça and Henry, which is expected to be sorted out in the next few hours.

Profile

The 29-year-old Thierry Henry is a versatile striker who stands out for his elegant style and his killer instinct in front of goal. He has been with Arsenal for the last eight seasons where he has won two league medals and three FA Cups. He also led Arsenal to the final of the Champions League last season.

This should make the next few weeks interesting. With Henry on his way will Eto' be on his way out. Possibly to us here in Milan. This will prove to be a very interesting time.

Kaka1899
23-06-2007, 14:11
oh no please not samuel. his realy unappealing... and he cant play football.

neither can Super Pippo :bri:

zlatanov
23-06-2007, 14:22
oh no please not samuel. his realy unappealing... and he cant play football.
Samuel was a rock at Roma under Capello and is a similar type of CD as Kaladze, Alex, etc.

His career has gone downhill after his move to Real M and then Inter (where he wasn't given much chance anyway) but that doen't mean he is a bad player ... in fact, I can think of a particular CD, who had an awful spell at Inter too, and is now having a very forgetable season at Real M (what a coincidence), while in other teams he was a solid rock at the back ... and even won a very prestigeous award last year, actually two prestigious awards. :)

The only question is, who is that defender? ;)

Plus, if we get Samuel, which so far is just a factless rumour, he will most probably replace Simic at the back ... a move, I can't say I would be against.
The way I see it, if we can't get Alex, we can only gain from a move for Samuel.

Tony29.
23-06-2007, 14:30
I can't say nothing for sure because it's Moratti we're talking about.....but Inter to sell anyone to Milan is the last thing i can imagine to happen.
I know this Suazo thing started many new speculations about the newly born love between the Milano cousins, still i concider these news as pure *bip*. After Cannavaro, Pirlo, Seedorf and few others who became huge in Milan or Juve after coming from Inter. After Vieri and Ronaldo , after "Metillo in culo" and all these words wars from last months, it takes a lunatic to sell a player from Inter to Milan.

acdc81
23-06-2007, 14:43
where did this samuel nonsense come from? guys, please! moratti is surely an idiot but once bitten (in his case it did take more bites) twice shy. he stated on numerous occasions that he won't do business with milan again in the future and why the heck would he want to give us one of his players as a nice gesture for pulling out of the suazo deal?

this man hates milan, no way he would like to apologize!

Tony29.
23-06-2007, 15:11
Fabio Quagliarella “I’d walk all the way to Turin for Juventus.” :D

When did football players become smart ?

Kaka1899
23-06-2007, 15:25
Fabio Quagliarella “I’d walk all the way to Turin for Juventus.” :D

When did football players become smart ?

When they let there wifes run and ruin there careers :D

acdc81
23-06-2007, 15:38
Giuly would be a nice addition. barca may let him go now that there attacking unit seems somehow overloaded.

concerning the big name, i'd try to get De Rossi over here. roma would surely not welcome our interest but with their salary cup (which does not apply for ddr anyway, still milan could probably offer more) we might be able to lure him to milan. don't know what he earns but probably not more than 3 millions, milan should be able to double that.

add a left back that can alternate with janku to that 2 names and we should be fine for next season. RO i would keep for another season, i think he could still do well with us.

Jim_UK
23-06-2007, 15:40
Fabio Quagliarella “I’d walk all the way to Turin for Juventus.” :D

When did football players become smart ?

He can't be that smart if he's going to walk :rollani: He could probably catch a bus, train or plane :grinser:

Ghost
23-06-2007, 16:54
Im watching Getafe vs Seville and I must say Kanoute is immense.

I know he recently said he wants to leave Spain to play in England again but could it be possible to bring him to Milan? I think he would be lethal in our team, I do admire him a lot.

ForeverMilan
23-06-2007, 17:09
if you ask me,honestly i cant say im happy,since i was about to cry after we lost suazo to inter,it not just because of suazo is a very good player yet Moron galliani made our milan looks like funny,after they announced the signing of the player ,then withdrawing the bid after some days.(by the way,im sure if milan offered a money around 3 m euros suazo would rather to play at us,yet our offer is very inferior to their even if he has more first team chance at us.

instead of it,Galliani doesnt have the tel. number of the agent of Suazo?Galliani could have called his agent before completing his transfer?he could ask the agent if he signed with inter or not.maybe he was better ask cellino for his number,maybe he didnt make himself like a clown.

Regarding Market,We didnt signed anyone,the players of carlo asked was ribery,alex and eto'o,considering alex is a chealse bound,then Bayern got Ribery,then Eto'o want to stay at Barcelona,also considering his wages demands is above from our salary cap.

just after missing on Tiago and Suazo to our rivals despite we were offering more money to their clubs yet we failed,since we entered the negatitions after both agreed with their news club?maybe we were slow,neither we didnt really want to sign them,or our target was someone else,when we didnt manage to sign him,we switched our targets

Emerson?Real would demand kaka,so forget him
Edmilson is out for 4 months
Lucho?we have never linked with him
Alex is a chealse bound
Abidal looks close to barcelona
Pato,it seems we would lose him to chealse as well
Zambrotta,im convinced that he would stay at Barcelona.
Henry?Just signed with barcelona
Ribery?he has gone to bayern
Tuncay has signed for Middes

in the end,we got Ba and however we should be happy with him.

it seems eto'o wants Barcelona stay at all cost,after bronzetti's declarations,im really convinced that he would stay at there.

if they dont sell one of dinho or eto'o,next year we could see the scores like 6-3,5-3-6-4,6-5 from their games vs getafe,santander e.t.c. and however losing their games vs teams coached by Mourinho,capello,benitez,carletto.

ForeverMilan
23-06-2007, 17:12
Tony29,Do u believe in the scudetto next year?

Hasan Rossonero
23-06-2007, 17:38
if you ask me,honestly i cant say im happy,since i was about to cry after we lost suazo to inter,it not just because of suazo is a very good player yet Moron galliani made our milan looks like funny,after they announced the signing of the player ,then withdrawing the bid after some days.(by the way,im sure if milan offered a money around 3 m euros suazo would rather to play at us,yet our offer is very inferior to their even if he has more first team chance at us.

instead of it,Galliani doesnt have the tel. number of the agent of Suazo?Galliani could have called his agent before completing his transfer?he could ask the agent if he signed with inter or not.maybe he was better ask cellino for his number,maybe he didnt make himself like a clown.

Regarding Market,We didnt signed anyone,the players of carlo asked was ribery,alex and eto'o,considering alex is a chealse bound,then Bayern got Ribery,then Eto'o want to stay at Barcelona,also considering his wages demands is above from our salary cap.

just after missing on Tiago and Suazo to our rivals despite we were offering more money to their clubs yet we failed,since we entered the negatitions after both agreed with their news club?maybe we were slow,neither we didnt really want to sign them,or our target was someone else,when we didnt manage to sign him,we switched our targets

Emerson?Real would demand kaka,so forget him
Edmilson is out for 4 months
Lucho?we have never linked with him
Alex is a chealse bound
Abidal looks close to barcelona
Pato,it seems we would lose him to chealse as well
Zambrotta,im convinced that he would stay at Barcelona.
Henry?Just signed with barcelona
Ribery?he has gone to bayern
Tuncay has signed for Middes

in the end,we got Ba and however we should be happy with him.

it seems eto'o wants Barcelona stay at all cost,after bronzetti's declarations,im really convinced that he would stay at there.

if they dont sell one of dinho or eto'o,next year we could see the scores like 6-3,5-3-6-4,6-5 from their games vs getafe,santander e.t.c. and however losing their games vs teams coached by Mourinho,capello,benitez,carletto.
Actually Ba isn't officially confirmed yet. :nervous:

Nordahl
23-06-2007, 18:19
Let's face the cruel and ruthless reality, folks: La Lega and Premier League footballers simply doesn't want anymore to join italian sides, mainly because they didn't want to reduce their wages... so I guess the wisest thing to do is 1) stop with that ridiculous monomania toward brazilian players and 2) forget all that fashionable crap regarding Eto'o or Ronaldinho, concentrating instead on talents from lesser leagues, like Neederlands or France. I'm certain that players like Huntelaar, Sneijder, De Jong, Malouda, etc. would be very glad to join a side like ours.

Tony29.
23-06-2007, 18:24
Tony29,Do u believe in the scudetto next year?
I do believe.....Milan or Inter to win it :grinser:
No, it would be more than a miracle Juve to win a scudetto. There are so many changes withing the club that i'm even scared for the 4th place. Call me a fool but i think last season's serieB Juve had more chances for the 4th place then the new Juve (especially if we lose 1, 2 or all 3 of Trez, Nedved and Camoranesi)

You did ask me about Juve, did you ?

Tony29.
23-06-2007, 18:26
Let's face the cruel and ruthless reality, folks: La Lega and Premier League footballers simply doesn't want anymore to join italian sides, mainly because they didn't want to reduce their wages... so I guess the wisest thing to do is 1) stop with that ridiculous monomania toward brazilian players and 2) forget all that fashionable crap regarding Eto'o or Ronaldinho, concentrating instead on talents from lesser leagues, like Neederlands or France. I'm certain that players like Huntelaar, Sneijder, De Jong, Malouda, etc. would be very glad to join a side like ours.
Why was this guy banned in the past ?
I know he's kinda aggresive sometimes and can't stop moaning, but admit it or not, he does have a point most of the time !

:diablo:

Nordahl
23-06-2007, 18:37
Why was this guy banned in the past ?


Shhhh... don't remember that! :zany: :devf: :zany:


Well, from the major stars of spanish league, I guess that perhaps only Ronaldinho Gaucho have a chance to join us, in order to play among his compatriots. Let's wait and see...

Hasan Rossonero
23-06-2007, 18:42
Let's face the cruel and ruthless reality, folks: La Lega and Premier League footballers simply doesn't want anymore to join italian sides, mainly because they didn't want to reduce their wages... so I guess the wisest thing to do is 1) stop with that ridiculous monomania toward brazilian players and 2) forget all that fashionable crap regarding Eto'o or Ronaldinho, concentrating instead on talents from lesser leagues, like Neederlands or France. I'm certain that players like Huntelaar, Sneijder, De Jong, Malouda, etc. would be very glad to join a side like ours.
There is partial truth to this.

I did some research on the matter, and I also posted some stuff on this thread.

The tax rate in England is pretty high also (40 % I think), and so the advantage mainly lies with Real and Barcelona.

Players in Man U, Liverpool, even Chelsea are paid just as well as the top players in Serie A.

Also teams like Man U have been taken over by massive loans and now are in debt. So a bunch of their income is compromised by repaying that debt. That explains some of it.

Salaries in Serie A are very competitive, but Barca and Real, as Galliani recently said, are much higher.

Hasan Rossonero
23-06-2007, 18:42
Shhhh... don't remember that! :zany: :devf: :zany:


Well, from the major stars of spanish league, I guess that perhaps only Ronaldinho Gaucho have a chance to join us, in order to play among his compatriots. Let's wait and see...

Yes that and Berlu has said he would open his wallet for them.

Nordahl
23-06-2007, 18:45
BTW, Tony: I'm very happy with Juventus returning to Serie A, as I was ALWAYS against that absurd demotion. After all, a Serie A season without AC Milan x Juventus is simply pathetic. And I guess you'll have something to cheer about our side with the likes of Tiago and Huntelaar (already purchased?).

Nordahl
23-06-2007, 18:52
Also teams like Man U have been taken over by massive loans and now are in debt. So a bunch of their income is compromised by repaying that debt. That explains some of it.

Hmmm... I didn't know that. Well, at least we don't have to face that kind of trouble.

Salaries in Serie A are very competitive, but Barca and Real, as Galliani recently said, are much higher.

Yes, you're right, I guess. But even so, spanish league players seems to be not very eager to move to Italy. BTW: why not try Fernando Torres instead of Eto'o, for instance? I guess he's a more suitable option in finantial terms.

Tony29.
23-06-2007, 19:00
BTW, Tony: I'm very happy with Juventus returning to Serie A, as I was ALWAYS against that absurd demotion
I remember you were :5ok:
You were one of the 3-4 guys here who wanted Moggi to be punished but not a club to be relegated !

And I guess you'll have something to cheer about our side with the likes of Tiago and Huntelaar (already purchased?).
I'm afraid i don't understand what you want to say.
Huntelaar isn't bought by Juve, and i don't think he will be !

why not try Fernando Torres instead of Eto'o, for instance?
Lol, i can see you're still crazy about Torres as you were last summer.
He's very close to Liverpool if i understood correctly.

Btw, are you still anti-Ronaldo as you were in the past ? :)

Nordahl
23-06-2007, 19:08
I remember you were :5ok:
You were one of the 3-4 guys here who wanted Moggi to be punished but not a club to be relegated !

Exactly: let's punish men, not institutions and fans.

Lol, i can see you're still crazy about Torres as you were last summer.
He's very close to Liverpool if i understood correctly.

Yep, unfortunately... :irritate:



Btw, are you still anti-Ronaldo as you were in the past ? :)

Well... :dconf: ... :zany:

I have to admit that I was wrong, as the man really performed very well with us... but only partially wrong, one must note, as he continues to be a very injury-prone player.

Rando
23-06-2007, 21:23
the signing of big players do not guarantee sucess! look at us last season, we lost shevchenko and had injury crisis, but still managed to win CL!
we need to sign players that will be useful to the squad. i think one or some of miccoli/giuly/riquelme/c lucarelli/trezeguet will be a smart signing.

ona
24-06-2007, 03:54
Lets get Royson Drenthe and loan him out to holland so that atleast he's our player, then we have to return to barca and take eto'o or dinho.Im somehow cautious of us going for dinho cos it will make calderon persist on getting Kaka.Its OK suazo's deal is withdrawn but we need to act fast.Again wesley Sjneider is a player i love so much, he should also come to us.Then a defender is needed aswell.What about Barzaglli.

rossoner03
24-06-2007, 04:42
how about romanian Mitea from Ajax. he is an amazing player but the coach don't want him because holland are in group with romania for euro08 qual....and he costs only 1million

rossoner03
24-06-2007, 04:48
all we need is zambotta...a player for pirlo backup..and a very good striker since gilardino had a bad season, inzaghi is only a solution for decissive matches, and RO will probably be sold.....so RONALDO+ Eto'o or Ronaldinho or D.Villa/Saviola/Sheva

Giorgos
24-06-2007, 05:57
Cannavaro's Juve comeback[B]

http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jun24b.html[U]

Fabio Cannavaro could be making a shock return to Juventus after a long telephone conversation with director Alessio Secco.

The captain walked out in the wake of the Calciopoli scandal and their demotion to Serie B, but now that the Bianconeri are back in the top flight, the door is open for a comeback.


Cannavaro crowned a superb 12 months with the Liga title for Real Madrid, having already been named European and World Player of the Year.


When he was asked about the possibility of returning to Juventus last week, he told newspapers “they have my number and that of my agent.”


It seems the message did not go unheeded, as ‘Tuttosport’ claim that general manager Jean Claude Blanc and director of sport Secco have been holding negotiations over the phone and will meet with agent Enrico Fedele next week.


The main stumbling block is over wages, as Juve will not match the £3m per season he will receive until 2009 under the terms of his Real Madrid contract.


The Bianconeri are having a complete overhaul following their promotion and have already signed Cristian Molinaro, Zdenek Grygera, Domenico Criscito and Daniele Gastaldello for the defence, with Federico Balzaretti, Robert Kovac and Igor Tudor departing.

Ghost
24-06-2007, 07:14
Chelsea are on the verge of closing the deal with Pato @ 18mill

rosoneri_11
24-06-2007, 07:17
I read somewhere that we are also interested for Villa. And we are going to make an offer abut 15M euros+Oliveira. The news says that this offer is mostly to know how about will cost to sign villa, and if Valencia is keen to sale him.

rosoneri_11
24-06-2007, 07:19
Chelsea are on the verge of closing the deal with Pato @ 18mill



Yes i just read it at tribalfootbal. :mad: But 18mil looks very much.

hany.Egypt
24-06-2007, 07:21
So we are going to lose Pato also, I am really depreased

Hasan Rossonero
24-06-2007, 07:32
On acmilan.com, Galliani has said that we will look in a foreign country for a striker, and Oliveira may be the one sacrificed.

He also rung a very depressing note about calcio's future, which has been touched on here. He reiterated that Spanish football has an advantage because of tax laws, and that's why we couldn't get Henry.

Also, as some of you know, TV deals will be collective next year, which means that small clubs will receive a big boost in their revenue, but the big clubs will lose a chunk of money. TV deals used to be individually negotiated in Italy, but the Prodi government has changed that. Galliani said that while that will guarantee a very competitive championship, in Europe the decline will be fatal.

rosoneri_11
24-06-2007, 07:38
Our striker targets is or was.
Eto= He says he don't want to go
Henry= He sign with Barcelona
Ronaldinho= He has nike as sponsor, and he also said he don't want to go
Suazo= He signed with Merda
Pato= He is going to sign with Chelsea
Torres= He is going to sign with Liverpool
Trezeguet= He is going to Valencia
Huntelaar=He is going to one of ManUtd/Juventus/Liverpool/Arsenal
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From those strikers we have very hard options only to sign Eto or Ronaldinho, the rest strikers seems that they will go to other clubs.
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If you had noticed only Eto is speaking about his future saying he doesn't want to go............. What is going on with Ronaldinho, i don't hear him talking about his future here and about many days.

sveto
24-06-2007, 07:50
Given all the complicated facts and difficulties lately in regards to the summer transfers, seems like Sheva will be the easiest player to obtain

Hasan Rossonero
24-06-2007, 07:53
Galliani seek Barca stars
Sunday 24 June, 2007
Adriano Galliani reveals why Milan decided to drop David Suazo and Thierry Henry, but confirms they’re seeking a new forward at Barcelona.

It has been an eventful week for the Rossoneri Vice-President. He struck a £10m deal with Cagliari for Suazo only to discover he had already signed for Inter and on Saturday officially relinquished their hold on the Honduran.

“I spoke with President Silvio Berlusconi and he completely agreed with our decision not to get into a bidding war. There was the real risk of a mess emerging. We all liked Suazo, but life goes on,” noted Galliani.

“I spoke to Massimo Moratti many times recently and right from the start I was pleased to see the Nerazzurri did not think we acted unfairly. Milan took the player’s wishes into account and released him without any nasty afters.

“There is too much talk in Italian football and we didn’t need another weight. As a former Lega Calcio President, I can say that a sense of responsibility played a huge part in my decision on Suazo. Can you imagine an appeal to FIFA with the Scudetto winners fighting against the European champions? No, thanks. Better to retire and look ahead.”

The Rossoneri are certainly doing that, with talk – now confirmed by Galliani – that they will pool all their resources into snatching either Eto’o or Ronaldinho from Barcelona.

“I tell the fans what I already reminded Berlusconi of. In 1986 we lost Gianluca Vialli because he refused the transfer. We didn’t get down in the dumps, instead going to sign Marco van Basten. Perhaps we would have won more with Vialli, but with Marco…

“At the moment Eto’o is not on the market and he says he wants to stay at Barcelona. Eto’o is at the top of our list and I have never hidden that.”

Galliani has often protested about the different tax breaks that football clubs receive in Italy and around Europe, so it seems once again this could prove decisive – as it already has this summer.

“The problem is the difference in the financial regime in Spain. We experienced the same problem with Henry,” revealed the transfer guru.

“We were very close to the Frenchman and Leonardo had worked hard on convincing him. We would not have had problems handing over £16m to Arsenal, but the £6.7m per season net wages are not sustainable for us. To be clear, Barcelona’s contract with Henry costs them less than £10m gross, but for us the same wages would cost £13.5m.

“Unfortunately, this is the truth now. We have to get used to it. Years back Ajax, Red Star Belgrade and Steaua Bucharest could challenge for the Champions League. Now they have vanished because they can’t sustain certain costs.

“It’ll get worse, as a new Government plan will take away resources from the big clubs to give to the smaller sides. We’ll get a more balanced Serie A, but the decline in Europe could follow.”

Leo
24-06-2007, 08:02
Screw socialism

zeshkani
24-06-2007, 08:04
meybe this was reason that milan left suazo :respect:

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=335130

Tony29.
24-06-2007, 09:07
Chelsea are on the verge of closing the deal with Pato @ 18mill
25m euro i read. That's sick for a 17 years old boy :mad:
Henry, Ibrahimovic, Ronaldinho, Kaka ..... they all costed as much or less than what Chelsea is offering for this underaged kid.

Jim_UK
24-06-2007, 09:10
have Roma officially signed Barusso? I think Milan should just sign him. We've had the strongest links with the guy and it's obvious he'd be very keen to prove himself and i know there's this sudden doubt over his ability after his injury, but for such a small transfer fee i don't think it's that big a risk.

He and Ze Roberto (coming off the back of a great season in Brazil) would be fine additions to our central midfield. Get on it Galliani!

Interimovic
24-06-2007, 09:13
meybe this was reason that milan left suazo
Milan left Suazo, looool!!!?

mrki
24-06-2007, 09:32
I really dont want to see PAto in Chelsky as this man-boy is really a masterpiece of a player. Maybe Leonardo can still snatch him, or we cant pay for him either? Maybe winning CL and having a lot of money like Berlusconi has isnt enough...

Tony29.
24-06-2007, 09:36
I really dont want to see PAto in Chelsky as this man-boy is really a masterpiece of a player. Maybe Leonardo can still snatch him, or we cant pay for him either? Maybe winning CL and having a lot of money like Berlusconi has isnt enough...
Mate, in this case i disagree with you.
He may become the greatest one of all time, but he's 17 Marko....who , apart from Abramovitch, will pay ~25m euro for a 17 years old ?

zlatanov
24-06-2007, 09:36
Milan left Suazo, looool!!!?
yeah, they did, and Suazo has something to say about that:
http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jun24i.html

just wonder, how Inter would have acted if they found themselevs in this situation, somehow I find it dif to imagine Mancini and Moratti being gracious "losers" - only time will tell if anything was lost here at all ;) - and move away without creating a media-shattering moaning noise about it

zlatanov
24-06-2007, 09:47
Mate, in this case i disagree with you.
He may become the greatest one of all time, but he's 17 Marko....who , apart from Abramovitch, will pay ~25m euro for a 17 years old ?
agree ... I also want Milan to secure Pato now and groom him for the future but let's be real here - we can't aford to put away this type of money in a bank acount, in a questionable institution, only because it might be useful in 5-6 years from now.
Milan needs this money for NOW, we can't just cut such a big chunk out of the club's budget for future luxuries.

We had reportedly offered 10-12 mil for him around the winter transfer period but 25mil and maybe even more, that's crazy talk IMO and a move only Chelski could come up with - even Real probably won't do it give their not so successful, at least for now, big money transfers for high profile youngsters like Gago, Higuain, and Marcelo barely half a year ago ... we could add to that Robinho too, I guess.

Just wondering though - the Internacional president reprotedly said, I think, that Pato was available for no less than his buy out clause of 15-16 mil euros, if I am not mistaken ... why are Chelski going 10 mil above that to sign him then?

hishamilan
24-06-2007, 09:59
guys huntelaar is always there for us we MUST offer for him inaddition to barusso drenthe and naldo

mrki
24-06-2007, 10:36
Roma rage over Inter-Chivu talks Sunday 24 June, 2007

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After the David Suazo chaos, Inter have again been accused of an illegal approach, this time to Roma’s Cristian Chivu.

It is well known that the Nerazzurri are interested in the defender, but Barcelona are close to a deal – according to Spanish newspaper ‘Marca’ with the official announcement coming on Monday – and a new saga could develop.


‘Marca’ insist that the Romanian will move to the Nou Camp in exchange for £8m plus Ludovic Giuly.


Today ‘Il Romanista’ alleges that Coach Roberto Mancini telephoned Chivu personally to convince him to choose Inter instead.


This infuriated the Giallorossi, who have already felt the burn of these unorthodox transfer techniques this season.


“Roma will never go behind another club’s back,” stated general manager Rosella Sensi.


“Roma have chosen a professional approach and will stick with it right to the end. Inter have chosen another and we respect their decision.”


It is claimed that if Chivu does turn down the move to Barcelona in order to join Inter, then Sensi will report them to the FIGC and FIFA for an illegal approach.


There was a hint of this problem earlier this weekend, when transfer guru Ernesto Bronzetti revealed the background to the negotiations with Barcelona.


“Roma thanked Barcelona for not going directly to the player first,” he told ‘Radio Radio.’


It would be the second time the Nerazzurri have been involved in controversy for contacting players under contract this summer.


Cagliari already revealed that Roma had asked after Suazo back in February, but had kept their promise to the club not to contact him directly until the campaign had concluded.


“Roma were the side who requested Suazo in February and I asked them not to contact the player, as I was afraid it would distract him,” revealed Cellino on ‘Radio Radio.’


“They waited until the end of the season and acted in a very professional manner, but Suazo already had a deal with Inter. Unfortunately, the respect Roma showed me could well have penalised them.”


That same technique created chaos after Milan agreed a £10m transfer with Cagliari for the player, only for them to back out several days later upon realising he had already signed for their San Siro rivals.


Inter are also in the headlines after an investigation was launched into their financial practices, alleging the club was not stable enough to qualify for the 2005-06 season.


Today financial newspaper ‘Il Sole 24 Ore’ claims that the Nerazzurri have the worst economic problems in Serie A, running at a loss of £122m this year.


The debt is covered by an increase in capital performed by oil baron Massimo Moratti and the shareholders.


Juventus ran at a loss of £24m following their demotion to Serie B and the consequent loss of several sponsorship contracts.


Of the ‘big’ clubs only Milan made a profit at £1.6m thanks to the £30m sale of Andriy Shevchenko to Chelsea.


In Serie A the healthiest finances belonged to Udinese, who ended up with a profit of £4.4m.


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Barca is doing smart and great job on mercato.... eventually they will end up with this defence... zambrotta-puyol-chivu-abidal

lked
24-06-2007, 11:00
ANYONE CAN TRANSLATE THIS ??

Capello: "Kakà a Madrid? Conoscendo Berlusconi è un sogno irrealizzabile"

14:54 del 24 giugno

Fabio Capello ai microfoni di Sky affronta alcuni dei casi più spinosi del mercato internazionale, riguardo la cessione di Ronaldo al Milan: "Aveva la necessità di cambiare aria, ricevemmo un'offerta lo scorso luglio, ma mi convinsero che sarebbe tornato quello degli anni d'oro". Sull'ex pupillo Cassano: "E' il migliore talento italiano senza dubbio, ma il talento non è tutto, deve rendersi conto di dover affrontare situazioni diffcili e deve esser capace di uscirne. E' un bravo ragazzo ma a volte perde l'equilibrio e questo non è buono per il gruppo". Il tecnico di Pieris non nasconde poi le sue perplessità sull'affare Kakà: "Conoscendo Berlusconi si tratta di un sogno irrealizzabile. Il presidente desidera che il Milan sia la migliore squadra del mondo e punta per questo su Kaká. Un tempo l'uomo immagine del Milan era Maldini, ora è il brasiliano"

ThrusT
24-06-2007, 11:06
ANYONE CAN TRANSLATE THIS ??

Capello: "Kakà a Madrid? Conoscendo Berlusconi è un sogno irrealizzabile"

14:54 del 24 giugno

Fabio Capello ai microfoni di Sky affronta alcuni dei casi più spinosi del mercato internazionale, riguardo la cessione di Ronaldo al Milan: "Aveva la necessità di cambiare aria, ricevemmo un'offerta lo scorso luglio, ma mi convinsero che sarebbe tornato quello degli anni d'oro". Sull'ex pupillo Cassano: "E' il migliore talento italiano senza dubbio, ma il talento non è tutto, deve rendersi conto di dover affrontare situazioni diffcili e deve esser capace di uscirne. E' un bravo ragazzo ma a volte perde l'equilibrio e questo non è buono per il gruppo". Il tecnico di Pieris non nasconde poi le sue perplessità sull'affare Kakà: "Conoscendo Berlusconi si tratta di un sogno irrealizzabile. Il presidente desidera che il Milan sia la migliore squadra del mondo e punta per questo su Kaká. Un tempo l'uomo immagine del Milan era Maldini, ora è il brasiliano"
Roughly translated it says, according to Capello it is a mission impossible to snatch Kaka away from Milan, especially from Berlusconi.
Berlu now considers Kaka THE man in Milan, where once that was Maldini.
Therefore he will never let him go now.
It also says something about the transfer of Ronaldo.

Nordahl
24-06-2007, 11:46
I really dont want to see PAto in Chelsky as this man-boy is really a masterpiece of a player. Maybe Leonardo can still snatch him, or we cant pay for him either? Maybe winning CL and having a lot of money like Berlusconi has isnt enough...

Fully agree... Pato simply KICKS ASS, man, mark my words... and he's not just an 'investment' for the future, he's ready to break really big NOW.

Jim_UK
24-06-2007, 12:09
Of the ‘big’ clubs only Milan made a profit at £1.6m thanks to the £30m sale of Andriy Shevchenko to Chelsea.


I find this stat incredibly disturbing. Italian football won't last much longer if the current financial status of each of the main leagues continues as it is i.e. the Premiership & La Liga in consistent mega money deals and Serie A in deals/tax laws that restrict their marketing powers.




Barca is doing smart and great job on mercato.... eventually they will end up with this defence... zambrotta-puyol-chivu-abidal


You could also add Alves as a possible right-back inclusion. The rest of their team will be

Deco/Iniesta --- Yaya Toure --- Xavi
---------- Ronaldinho/Messi --------
------ Henry ---------- Etoo -------

Should Etoo leave i wouldn't be surprised to see them try for Huntelaar or Torres. Should Ronaldinho leave i'm not sure they'll need to move for anyone as they have Messi, Deco and possibly promote Dos Santos to the first team. Good times to be a Barcelona fan.

Nordahl
24-06-2007, 12:23
Eto'o or Ronaldinho would be great, of course, but I guess we're treading waters on that, losing very precious time on hugely complicated deals... why not pick someone like Huntelaar, a very good and not so expensive striker? Why not get Sneijder, whose multifunctionality would certainly be of great benefit to our midfield? Let's forget deals with spanish sides, they're too goddamned complicated!

Giorgos
24-06-2007, 12:27
Chelsea are on the verge of closing the deal with Pato @ 18mill

That means after taking Pizzaro also that Sheva will probably join us. I don't Think to play Sheva, Drogba, Pizzaro, Pato, Kalou.... :5ok:

zlatanov
24-06-2007, 12:32
Barca aren't as rich as it may seem so getting Alves and Abidal and keeping Zambrotta won't happen IMO. They offered 9 mil for Abidal and got Aulas angry and the deal stalled.
If anyone is gonna move for Alves, that will probably be Real M as they are yet to splash on the market and probably won't go below 70-80 mil this summer either, especially if they appoint a new coach ... otherwise half of their fans will jump on another bandwagon in an instant and that won't go well with the shirt and scarf sales :rolleyes:

Barca are doing well on the market getting valuable players but let's not forget that they had an excellent team this year too - and an average-performing and shaky real M side managed to pip them to the title, while Pool blew them off the field in the CL.

IMO Barca's problem was not the lack of good quality players but they had a big problem at the helm with the departure of Ten Cate.
That won't change so it would still be the good old Rijkaard trying to deal with and even more star-studded squad all by himself and last season showed that he could have his hands quite full with Barca looking lucklusture tactics-wise while the dressing room, in Zambortta's words, was in turmoil ... and that without Henry in there ;)

Let's not forget how last summer people were stunned by CHelski's tarnsfers after adding SWP, SHeva, Ballack, Cole, you name it to an already very strong team and many here were even asking "who would beat them" ... well, I think in the end, everyone got his question answered, big time :)

zlatanov
24-06-2007, 12:44
Eto'o or Ronaldinho would be great, of course, but I guess we're treading waters on that, losing very precious time on hugely complicated deals... why not pick someone like Huntelaar, a very good and not so expensive striker? Why not get Sneijder, whose multifunctionality would certainly be of great benefit to our midfield? Let's forget deals with spanish sides, they're too goddamned complicated!
I think Huntelaar is a player who could become of interest to Milan if they sell Gila or Pippo leaves/retires ... without one of those two leaving, there is no way we would go for another target man like Huntelaar ... and even if that were to happen, he is still unproven in a big league and at the big scene (like CL or in big games for Dutch NT) so that would always raise doubts for a Serie A team like Milan, with his price nearing 20 mil ... and at this point in time, it seems like he himself isn't sure of his being ready for top-flight football in EUrope given that he has said not once or twice that he wnats to saty at Ajax for one more season.

My guess is that, unless he moves to juve, he would stay at Ajax and we'll see first hand how good he really is in this year's CL ... after all, if he can't score there, a ton of goals in the Dutch league won't mean anything to Milan or their fans (Gila might have a thing or two to say about that last one).

Mystik
24-06-2007, 13:03
I'm sure Huntelaar has CL goals. At least in qualifying anyway. He has 1 goal actually. Vs Inter. That should count for at least 5 :D

zlatanov
24-06-2007, 13:08
I'm sure Huntelaar has CL goals. At least in qualifying anyway. He has 1 goal actually. Vs Inter. That should count for at least 5 :D

so does Gila although not in CL ... that didn't save him from the fans though and he is still seen as a failure by most.

when i was writing that, i was pretty sure about that too but how valuable a goal against say Widzew Lodz or Kpenhagen (who btw eliminated Ajax last year in 3rd QF round) would be considering the teams Milan would be playing in CL ... even in the group stage let alone later on.

zlatanov
24-06-2007, 13:31
I just searched around and think that Huntelaar has 10 goals altogether in Europe - 3 in CL (1 vs Inter and 2 vs Kopenhagen) and 7 in UEFA Cup (2 vs Start, 2 vs Zulte Waregem, 2 vs Austria, and 1 vs Werder).

So, basically 2 out of these 10 goals were against serious teams like Inter and Werder ... the guys is good but I do thinkhe needs to prove himself a lot more to warrant a price tag close to 20 mil ... and I think he feels he isn't ready as not many players would turn down multi-million deals to stay at Ajax for one more year.

Tony29.
24-06-2007, 13:38
Yes, so many similarities between Huntelaar and Gila before he came to Milan.

With 19 goals for the u-21 team, Gila is all time top scorer for the Azzurini.
With 18 goals for the u-21 team, Huntelaar is all time top scorer for young oranje.

At the u-21 Euro in 2004 ( when he was 22) , Gila led his team to the gold, scoring 5 goals ( 2 goals in the final and 2 in the semifinal ).
At the u-21 Euro in 2006 (when he was 22), KJH led his team to the gold, scoring 4 goals ( 2 goals in the final, 1 in the semifinal)

When he was 21 and 22 , Gila was scoring 24 goals in Serie A
When he was 21 and 22 , KJH was scoring 17 & 33 goals in Dutch League and at 23 he scored 21 goal in the same league ( at 23 Gila scored 17 goals in serie A)

For the National team Gila scored 8 goals in 23 matches (0.35 goals per match)
For the National team KJH scored 2 goals in 8 matches ( 0.25 goals per match)

Huntelaar is only 1 year younger than Gila, btw, and we can't even compare his experience at top level with Gila's !

You see, like Zlatanov already told you, numbers don't lie. There's absolutly no guarantee KJH will be better than Gila. Plus he's a not needed risk.
If Milan really wants Gila out, then he should be replaced with someone already proven (Trezeguet, Van Nistelrooy).
I don't see the logic in replacing Gila with someone who may easily turn out to be worse than him.

mrki
24-06-2007, 14:03
I still somehow hope that Gila can find his confidence again and score and play like he did with Parma and Italy U-21. I really dont want to se him playing for Juve and scoring 20 per season.

With Pato on hios way to Chelsea, we could really end up with "good" old Sheva. That would be an ultimate humiliation for Milan loyal players and fans who begged him to stay with us. Better pay 25 mil for Pato than 20 for 30 years old traitor Shevchenko who kissed Chelsea shirt on his first game.

nefremo
24-06-2007, 14:47
I don't want Sheva. Let him stay in Chelsea and battle his own battles just like how we did this year with all the difficulties.

As for the other news......there are too many rummors and speculations to even guess what is going on. Galliani says that Eto'o is our number one target but a day later signs Suazo only to back off the deal and a day later say again that Eto'o is the top target. A few weeks ago he says that we will sign a striker and an attacker but after apperantly securing Suazo he says that the transfer campaign is over. Too many lies, too many speculations. I don't trust our own Galliani so how can I possibly trust the mediums. In the end we will end up with a big name and I am sure of that, who will it be only boldy knows but he lies too much for us to even believe a word he is saying.

Apperantly, Barca offered Eto'o to Arsenal but they refused him in the deal for Henry. So maybe Eto'o is available for a transfer. (this however according to tribal :grinser: ) My wish is Ronaldinho, because for some weird reason I still trust our attackers. Ronaldo I think will be back to his own self next year after a promising start, Inzaghi showed that is still capable to play a few games a month whenever called up upon and I believe that Gilardino will finally shine and fulfill the potential he showed in the past as he is still very young and with potential to become one of Italy's best (if not the best) strikers.

zlatanov
24-06-2007, 14:57
here are some good news for the poor milan fans left without their summer present by the half-witted Milan management :D:
http://www.tgcom.mediaset.it/controcampo/articoli/articolo367676.shtml

in short, it says that with no clarity on who among Sheva, Etoo, Dinho would be an easier or rather feasible target, Milan is looking at Alexandre Pato, considered by many the heir of Kaka, and Braida is said to be one of his biggest fans among Milan management.

Sweet dreams, guys - that was my way of tucking you in :D

* seriously though - I still don't understand why would Chelski pay 25-27 mil euros when Internacional president said several times that if a team wanst Pato, they would have to pay his buy-out clause of 15-16 mil or so.

Tony29.
24-06-2007, 15:08
I have no source for this, nor i have inside info, but it's a feeling Mauro German Camoranesi may be the one who'll join Milan for the midfield.

I know Juve don't want to sell to their rivals but in this case an exception can be made. Mauro will be 31 when the new season will start so we won't reinforce our rivals for the next 5-10 years like Inter did. Camo will have mostly 1 or 2 good seasons in Milan and Juve won't be a match to Inter or Milan in next 2 years anyway, with or without Camo.
Camoranesi's agent stated that only a move to Milan, Inter or Roma is acceptable while it looks like Juve don't plan to keep him ( a new improved contract will be offered to Trez but not to Camo) because Ranieri talks about the future Juve with Nedved and Trez , but he's not mentioning Camoranesi.

Camo isn't the same kind of player with Tiago but there's a similarity. Both of them are midfielders, hard workers, while Camo's plus is that he can play both in CM and as a winger. Milan is clearly looking after a Tiago-like player, so why not Camo ?
And he's not expensive at all.

Fits perfectly imo. ( especially with his age :grinser: )

Edit : Oh, and my heart will be broken to see one of my favorites go to Milan. That's another reason for you to want Camo :diablo:

Tony29.
24-06-2007, 15:13
In that link Zlat gave us it is said that Besiktas wants to buy Bonera

ThrusT
24-06-2007, 15:26
I have no source for this, nor i have inside info, but it's a feeling Mauro German Camoranesi may be the one who'll join Milan for the midfield.

I know Juve don't want to sell to their rivals but in this case an exception can be made. Mauro will be 31 when the new season will start so we won't reinforce our rivals for the next 5-10 years like Inter did. Camo will have mostly 1 or 2 good seasons in Milan and Juve won't be a match to Inter or Milan in next 2 years anyway, with or without Camo.
Camoranesi's agent stated that only a move to Milan, Inter or Roma is acceptable while it looks like Juve don't plan to keep him ( a new improved contract will be offered to Trez but not to Camo) because Ranieri talks about the future Juve with Nedved and Trez , but he's not mentioning Camoranesi.

Camo isn't the same kind of player with Tiago but there's a similarity. Both of them are midfielders, hard workers, while Camo's plus is that he can play both in CM and as a winger. Milan is clearly looking after a Tiago-like player, so why not Camo ?
And he's not expensive at all.

Fits perfectly imo. ( especially with his age :grinser: )

Edit : Oh, and my heart will be broken to see one of my favorites go to Milan. That's another reason for you to want Camo :diablo:
I'm a bit sceptical on Camo, he has his good but also his very bad matches, bit like Seedorf.
Wasn't Camoranesi keen on a move to Lyon?


I have a feeling we are not gonna buy any Barca players at all, if we do I hope it will be someone no one will expect like Zambrotta.

Besiktas?
Doubt we'll sell Bonera, since Milan is his favourite, I don't think he'll leave either.

kef
24-06-2007, 15:28
Milan will not let Bonera go, he has proven he is a very good CD and we will need him next year.

mrki
24-06-2007, 15:38
Camoranesi is a GREAT player, actually way better player than Tiago. His crossing is amost perfect and he runs like Davids, all over the place. He is 31 so he is probably our target, yes :) I would gladly accept him in Milan.

Galliani did say we will search for an attacker abroad ( on acmilan.com ). Among all those lies he says, sometimes he bites his toung. Its not easy to lie all the time you know... Pato and Camoranesi, I accept anything on mercato these days!

P.S.
And then we go for Zambrotta!

Mystik
24-06-2007, 15:59
Ouch I knew they didn't figure Oliveira into their plans but this is just harsh.

As for future moves on the market: ‘We will be looking for a striker. The market is long and we won’t rush things. But, it is clear that only Oliveira will be sacrificed for the new signing.

http://www.acmilan.com/NewsDetail.aspx?idNews=48794

Mystik
24-06-2007, 16:27
He also said that the striker will come from abroad and not from Italy.

Tony29.
24-06-2007, 16:40
He also said that the striker will come from abroad and not from Italy.
Trezeguet won't go to Milan :p017:

Seriously..... Pippo, Ronaldo, Gilardino stay and Oli will be sacrificed.
If Inzaghi and Gila stay then a Suazo-Sheva-Eto'o type of striker will be signed.
This excludes Klaas Jan Huntelaar, i guess and since the striker will come from abroad we can exclude Quagliarella and the likes who play in Italy.

Eto'o is at the top of Milan's wish list. I don't want to jinx anything for you, but lets say you won't be able to get him. With Henry and Suazo gone, who does it leave ?

Shevchenko.... who else ??

Graeme C
24-06-2007, 16:55
thats what i fear, i have a feeling it will be sheva, pato (who im not sure can even sign for us) tevez maybe.. even Jose mari :P ok i kid! lol worse case they will play aubameyang..

i wouldnt completely exclude Quagliarella, i just think milan would be worried about getting in a bidding war against juve and inter for him.

I have my doubts about Eto 2 tony!

Im a lil surprised no one has made a move for Maresca yet...

ForeverMilan
24-06-2007, 17:05
Trezeguet won't go to Milan :p017:

Seriously..... Pippo, Ronaldo, Gilardino stay and Oli will be sacrificed.
If Inzaghi and Gila stay then a Suazo-Sheva-Eto'o type of striker will be signed.
This excludes Klaas Jan Huntelaar, i guess and since the striker will come from abroad we can exclude Quagliarella and the likes who play in Italy.

Eto'o is at the top of Milan's wish list. I don't want to jinx anything for you, but lets say you won't be able to get him. With Henry and Suazo gone, who does it leave ?

Shevchenko.... who else ??
David Villa,Drogba,Berbatov,Sobis,Pato,Babel,Lazovic,Shevchenko e.t.c.

eto'o wont come in my opinion sad but true.

by the way,trez can stay where he is :p017:

ForeverMilan
24-06-2007, 17:09
here are some good news for the poor milan fans left without their summer present by the half-witted Milan management :D:
http://www.tgcom.mediaset.it/controcampo/articoli/articolo367676.shtml

in short, it says that with no clarity on who among Sheva, Etoo, Dinho would be an easier or rather feasible target, Milan is looking at Alexandre Pato, considered by many the heir of Kaka, and Braida is said to be one of his biggest fans among Milan management.

Sweet dreams, guys - that was my way of tucking you in :D

* seriously though - I still don't understand why would Chelski pay 25-27 mil euros when Internacional president said several times that if a team wanst Pato, they would have to pay his buy-out clause of 15-16 mil or so.
i also remember that buy out clause yet this could be 20 m euros if i remember correctly.

this makes his move complicated,maybe we could sign him,i just hope.

ForeverMilan
24-06-2007, 17:11
i dont believe in besiktas is interested in bonera,since they are interested in every defender and every dm in the world according to stupid turkish papers,they even linked with Barusso,Edmilson,Emerson as well.

by the way,they almost agreed and say fenerbahce had adriano deal,yet they put an hold to his deal since they believe ronaldo could arrive,since they believe Milan or inter would go to Serie B.

they are really fun,i read that newspaper to make so fun after galliani made me sad

they are writing down this names in order to make their funs happy and however selling more papers and getting more advertisements e.t.c

we shouldnt take them serios,they also fears from galatasaray which signed Lincoln,Linderoth,2 turkish national team player,they also seems signed Nilmar and rommedahl,gala says they aimed win uefa cup at 2009 which will be at fener's stadium,the fener fans and besikstas fans gets angry when they read it and however newspapers writing down this names in order to make feell them better

GilAttack [11]
24-06-2007, 17:24
Eto'o is always confronting with Ronaldinho and Rijkaard. But at the same time, he doesnt want to leave Barcelona.
With Gio Dos Santos and Bojan waiting on the wings, it would be a smart move (maybe) to unload Ronaldinho while he has tons of value.

Ghost
24-06-2007, 17:36
Barca aren't as rich as it may seem so getting Alves and Abidal and keeping Zambrotta won't happen IMO. They offered 9 mil for Abidal and got Aulas angry and the deal stalled.


I read somewhere that Barcas budget this summer is 30-35 Mill, now they have splashed lets say half of that on Henry. With Chivu & Abidal left I dont think they both will go for the sum of 15 Mill. This is the reason why most Barca fans are angry at the amount spent on Henry. Truth be told I dont blame the fans, the defense cost them the Liga this year and that is where they should of spent their money not in attack.



Eto'o is at the top of Milan's wish list. I don't want to jinx anything for you, but lets say you won't be able to get him. With Henry and Suazo gone, who does it leave ?

Shevchenko.... who else ??

Tony this is the exact thing I said a few days back, We are not guranteed Eto with Barca getting Henry. There are not many players who could match what we are looking for, imo there are only three players who could do what we ask and those are: Henry, Eto and Sheva. The first has gone to Barca but I felt we could of tried getting him but Galliani has explained the reasons for not getting him. Eto is a mysery for me because after saying many time he wants to remain at Barca you can clearly see they will face problems with so many egos in the team. The only player that is left is Sheva, now I cant think of any reason that Roman will let him go, after spending so much im sure they wont let him leave and to be honest after last year he can stay there.

There just aren't enough quality strikers we can go for, Huntlear, Pato Tevez these are the types of striker who need time to adapt but we need strikers who are killer finishers.

GilAttack [11]
24-06-2007, 17:40
Well, Eto'o isnt a "killer" finisher, he misses tons of chances playing for Barcelona and if he is among league leaders is because he has precisely many scoring opportunities.

Ghost
24-06-2007, 17:53
Im sorry, I must say he is a killer finisher.

Also with the fact that he is young there is much room for improvement, comparing to the other strikers such as Henry & Sheva who are older. But I would've still preferred Henry over him, for the simple fact that he can score outside the box.

zeshkani
24-06-2007, 18:07
Oliveira - Casano this will be the transfer for milano

i hope casano will not com to milano because for my opinion hi is not e good player

kastriot
24-06-2007, 18:10
Im sorry, I must say he is a killer finisher.

Also with the fact that he is young there is much room for improvement, comparing to the other strikers such as Henry & Sheva who are older. But I would've still preferred Henry over him, for the simple fact that he can score outside the box.

No Eto..is good only because he had a great service from the team....but he misses like hell,a lot for a classy striker...but overall he compensates, But I dont know his going to react in a environment like Milan where you get sometimes one or two chances to score!!!
Killer finishers for me are Sheva,Henry,Ronaldo,Rud,Pippo,Tommason(to make Zeekay happy) :grinser:

remote2book
24-06-2007, 18:18
well i just read on goal.com about us and david villa...and david villa is one the best "killer" striker in the world i know its a long shot but hey imo so is eto'o and i would prefer david villa any day over eto'o but if we can get either one it would be a very good buy for us

zlatanov
24-06-2007, 18:23
Trezeguet won't go to Milan :p017:

Seriously..... Pippo, Ronaldo, Gilardino stay and Oli will be sacrificed.
If Inzaghi and Gila stay then a Suazo-Sheva-Eto'o type of striker will be signed.
This excludes Klaas Jan Huntelaar, i guess and since the striker will come from abroad we can exclude Quagliarella and the likes who play in Italy.

Eto'o is at the top of Milan's wish list. I don't want to jinx anything for you, but lets say you won't be able to get him. With Henry and Suazo gone, who does it leave ?

Shevchenko.... who else ??
they are aiming at Dinho, Etoo, Drogba, Sheva, Villa ... that's why I think the management has said that the striker will come from abroad.
these however are dif transfers and it could well end up with Milan not getting anyone if those players are deemed untransferable or their clubs start asking for ridiculous amounts (Sheva, Villa).

So, Pato for now is an option, for now being the keyword there, but I would guess that Milan would loan him out at least for an year even if we get him (or leave him at Internacional) as he's too young and doesn't have an EU passport ... so I really don't see Milan aiming at him as the star striker they are looking for for this coming season.

If none of the above transfers take place, I guess we could look back at Italy ... and that means Quagliarella and yes, Trezi will be getting a bullseye on their chest :zany: :diablo:

I personally wouldn't mind at all keeping our current strikers and getting Quagliarella (can play both as an attacking mid and striker) for something like 10-12 mil+Boriello - I do expect RO to show a lot more than he did last season and without any enormous egos up front we'll have a hardworking group of players, wo Carlo won't be afraid to bench if necessary without causing a turmoil in the dressing room.
with some finishing touches in defense and midfield, we could be done without making headlines next year that Milan has equalled Inter's negative balance of 180 mil euros for this past year ;)

kastriot
24-06-2007, 18:48
they are aiming at Dinho, Etoo, Drogba, Sheva, Villa ... that's why I think the management has said that the striker will come from abroad.
these however are dif transfers and it could well end up with Milan not getting anyone if those players are deemed untransferable or their clubs start asking for ridiculous amounts (Sheva, Villa).

So, Pato for now is an option, for now being the keyword there, but I would guess that Milan would loan him out at least for an year even if we get him (or leave him at Internacional) as he's too young and doesn't have an EU passport ... so I really don't see Milan aiming at him as the star striker they are looking for for this coming season.

If none of the above transfers take place, I guess we could look back at Italy ... and that means Quagliarella and yes, Trezi will be getting a bullseye on their chest :zany: :diablo:

I personally wouldn't mind at all keeping our current strikers and getting Quagliarella (can play both as an attacking mid and striker) for something like 10-12 mil+Boriello - I do expect RO to show a lot more than he did last season and without any enormous egos up front we'll have a hardworking group of players, wo Carlo won't be afraid to bench if necessary without causing a turmoil in the dressing room.
with some finishing touches in defense and midfield, we could be done without making headlines next year that Milan has equalled Inter's negative balance of 180 mil euros for this past year ;)

Agree with zlat on all his points....don`t forget we do have an reinforcement in the team already...Ronaldo plus all our strikers underperformed last year,so I`m expecting better performances from Gila and OLI(especially him...he can do better for sure),So its not the end of the world.if we dont sign new striker...but we need a Midfielder and Defender and maybe a flank player!!

Quagliarella,Abidal/heinze/alves,emerson/makalele/edmilson/camo,alex is Really great transfer market.....if we add a star than even better but like this looks really good(always consider that our striker can`t play worse than last season )IMO

I expect more from GORKY, Bonera, Oddo,Ambro,Kaladze all of them played good but not all season thats why we suffered in the league!!! We had a lot of injuries...once the team was all fit we played really good... and we did what we did!!!

GilAttack [11]
24-06-2007, 19:22
Ricardo Oliveira wants out, Id take a bag of balls for him.

remote2book
24-06-2007, 20:31
wat abt knoute.......can we make a traget as well...i know he doesnt want to move from sevilla ..but than again we r europeon champions who wudnt wanna come...is he good enough for milan? i think he is and really had proven himself in spain and helped sevilla win in europe and coppa del ray..