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zlatanov

27-06-2007, 16:22

sorry, off topic...Zlat may be interested

Liverpool: preso portiere Mihaylov

20:09 del 27 giugno

Nikolay Mihaylov e' il nuovo portiere del Liverpool.
Il nazionale under 21 bulgaro ha firmato con i Reds un triennale lasciando così il Levski Sofia.

Liverpool bought young Bulgarian keeper Mihailov. Zlat sure does, and maybe some of you still remember Borislav Mihailov, the goalkeeper of Bulgarian 1994 WC generation.
He was one of the best goalkeepers i've seen in my life and it's such a shame he never made it with a great club. He played in Portugal , France and Reading in England, but never for a CL candidate or some other major team.

And now, his son signed for Liverpool. Maybe this boy is talented but from what i've seen against Werder in CL this year, he'll never be as good as his father. It's a shame someone like him to play for Liverpool, while the great Boris to be remembered only in Bulgaria and by some fanatics like myself

Btw, the new Pool keeper against Werder :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdOt8TqU4YU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGSpl3sWRcA
quite frankly, I know close to nothing about the guy ... his daddy was something special though :)
from what I know the son isn't even Levski's starting GK but is more of a young prospect coming thru the youth ranks ... so Pool must have seen something in him ... somehow :D

If they are going for him, he is either really good ... or his agent is a magician :grinser:

zlatanov

27-06-2007, 16:25

Every thread should be a poll :D so here's my vote
We have been talking about Torres since the Contra, Jose Mari, Moreno days and except being voted one of the best players in La Liga neither Atletico nor Spain (at senior levels) have achieved anything with him as their 'big star'.
not true - Spain did pass the groups in the last World Cup, didn't they ... and AM are regulars for the Intertoto Cup too :grinser:

Tony29.

27-06-2007, 16:36

Livorno signed one well known face for Milan fans : Vikash Dhorasoo

Edit : it's not official though :)
Livorno has signed a well known French midfielder and many think it's Vikash Dhorasso

drucurl

27-06-2007, 16:40

i see a very good lookin boy with a very nice hairstyle

Hasan, you have any idea where i can find cheap tickets for the U-20 WC final in toronto? I plan on coming. July 22 I believe yea?
:haha: wanted to give you rep points for that but I can't :(

I have a gut feeling about Torres...that's all it really is (shhh don't tell zlat I said the "g" word again I might get banned again :grinser: )

Hasan Rossonero

27-06-2007, 16:43

Livorno signed one well known face for Milan fans : Vikash Dhorasoo

Edit : it's not official though :)
Livorno has signed a well known French midfielder and many think it's Vikash Dhorasso
We're starting to see the effects of the TV deal on the smaller clubs.

Livorno: Tavano and Dhorasoo.
Udinese invested pretty heavily in Quag.
Catania bought two Argentineans.

zlatanov

27-06-2007, 16:43

:haha: wanted to give you rep points for that but I can't :(

I have a gut feeling about Torres...that's all it really is (shhh don't tell zlat I said the "g" word again I might get banned again :grinser: )
I can still hear you :zany:
btw, when did I ban you for saying the "g" word so that you said "again" :mad:

:grinser:

Tony29.

27-06-2007, 16:58

We're starting to see the effects of the TV deal on the smaller clubs.

Livorno: Tavano and Dhorasoo.
Udinese invested pretty heavily in Quag.
Catania bought two Argentineans.
I like that. Milan was losing from smaller teams even when they couldn't afford good players, you can only imagine what will they do to you now :grinser:

Seriously, i really like this Hasan. Some day we, as fans of serie A major clubs, may regret this (as Galliani said, this will reflect very bad for Milan, Juve and Inter) but if the smaller teams get strong enough to beat at least one of the serie A giants in one year and if there will be no more fixing, even in the last rounds, then you can imagine what a feeling it will be to win a strong and clean serie A :)

drucurl

27-06-2007, 17:00

I can still hear you :zany:
btw, when did I ban you for saying the "g" word so that you said "again" :mad:

:grinser:

I meant "banned again" not "banned for saying the 'g' word again" :5ok: It's all good though :D

zlatanov

27-06-2007, 17:07

I meant "banned again" not "banned for saying the 'g' word again" :5ok: It's all good though :D
well, then just don't say the g word and it will be OK :grinser:

Hasan Rossonero

27-06-2007, 17:14

I like that. Milan was losing from smaller teams even when they couldn't afford good players, you can only imagine what will they do to you now :grinser:

Seriously, i really like this Hasan. Some day we, as fans of serie A major clubs, may regret this (as Galliani said, this will reflect very bad for Milan, Juve and Inter) but if the smaller teams get strong enough to beat at least one of the serie A giants in one year and if there will be no more fixing, even in the last rounds, then you can imagine what a feeling it will be to win a strong and clean serie A :)
The thing I like about this is that the big three clubs have rich patrons who can invest in them to keep them competitive in Europe. Galliani was making noises because he is the right hand man of Berlusconi.

What this will also do is force Milan, Juve and Inter to balance their revenue portfolio, which relies heavily on TV rights. If there is a strong and competitive Serie A, TV deals will reach higher numbers (like in England), and attendances will go up. If Serie A clubs can get ownership of their stadiums (like Melandri is pushing for) their revenue will increase. Furthermore, then Italian clubs will be competitive businesses, which look for merchandising and gate receipts as well as TV deals for income.

The Berlus, Agnellis, and Morattis will always invest in a dream signing.

This way the smaller clubs share a piece of the pie and Serie A as a contest is much more interesting. I mean seriously, how fair is it that Milan make 50 times as much as Chievo in TV deals?

That's why when people point to Spain as a model of business I laugh. Real and Barcelona hog all the TV rights. Look at clubs like Deportivo and Villarreal...they are barely moving on the market.

So to recapitulate, I think this is only good. The big 3 have billions backing them. The bottom 15 or so don't.

Finally, I think Inter, Milan and Juve have deals until 2010, and they are protected by special clauses until then.

The funny thing is Galliani gives this pessimistic speech, and the next day he talks about names like Eto'o, Dinho etc. Honestly, I can't see people like Berlusconi and Moratti sit quietly by and watch their clubs struggle. They're going to invest since that is in their nature. Everyone remembers how much Berlu invested when we were struggling. The only reason, IMO, he hasn't been for the last few seasons is because we've been competitive.

Graeme C

27-06-2007, 18:38

remote2book

27-06-2007, 19:18

sooo....abidal seems like going to barcelona another player which i thought we could have used but i guess it seems like the managment thinks otherwise

conti

27-06-2007, 20:33

The thing I like about this is that the big three clubs have rich patrons who can invest in them to keep them competitive in Europe. Galliani was making noises because he is the right hand man of Berlusconi.

What this will also do is force Milan, Juve and Inter to balance their revenue portfolio, which relies heavily on TV rights. If there is a strong and competitive Serie A, TV deals will reach higher numbers (like in England), and attendances will go up. If Serie A clubs can get ownership of their stadiums (like Melandri is pushing for) their revenue will increase. Furthermore, then Italian clubs will be competitive businesses, which look for merchandising and gate receipts as well as TV deals for income.

The Berlus, Agnellis, and Morattis will always invest in a dream signing.

This way the smaller clubs share a piece of the pie and Serie A as a contest is much more interesting. I mean seriously, how fair is it that Milan make 50 times as much as Chievo in TV deals?

That's why when people point to Spain as a model of business I laugh. Real and Barcelona hog all the TV rights. Look at clubs like Deportivo and Villarreal...they are barely moving on the market.

So to recapitulate, I think this is only good. The big 3 have billions backing them. The bottom 15 or so don't.

Finally, I think Inter, Milan and Juve have deals until 2010, and they are protected by special clauses until then.

The funny thing is Galliani gives this pessimistic speech, and the next day he talks about names like Eto'o, Dinho etc. Honestly, I can't see people like Berlusconi and Moratti sit quietly by and watch their clubs struggle. They're going to invest since that is in their nature. Everyone remembers how much Berlu invested when we were struggling. The only reason, IMO, he hasn't been for the last few seasons is because we've been competitive.

Good thinking man, the only way to make our own league interesting is by letting the moneys be spread out even among the clubs! As you said look at England, they are not so concerned with winning the Cl because winning the league is the best thing a team can do there! But for us (Italian teams) its different we need to at least go really far in the CL competition to have something to use a leverage compared to them and by that raising the public interest because our leaugue isn't enough any more.

Hasan Rossonero

27-06-2007, 20:51

Very well said conti!

We need to realize that the domestic league is not just a stepping stone to the Champions League, but it can have value in and of itself.

I believe that with Genoa, Napoli and Juventus back and names such as Tavano, Miccoli (possibly), Cassano (possibly), Di Vaio etc. ready to grace Serie A we're going to have a very exciting season.

The duopoly of Juve and Milan has been suffocating the league, and now what is needed is the element of unpredictability which, in my view, is the essential factor in making a league marketable.

San Paolo

27-06-2007, 23:19

Livorno, Juventus and Torino have recruited very well. Livorno have made many solid signings with Rossini, Dhoroso and Tavano. The Lucarelli/Tavano combo unfront could push them in a spot for Europe.

San Paolo

27-06-2007, 23:20

Can anyone confirm whether Milan have Andrea Raggi in a co-ownership deal with Empoli?

zlatanov

28-06-2007, 00:47

last I read on Raggi was that Milan was very interested in him but we weren't the only club chasing him.
I don't think he is a Milan player yet, be that a full or co-ownership contarct.

GilAttack [11]

28-06-2007, 01:47

doesnt matter if its eto, tevez or Torres. There is a huge possibility that all of these players could fail in italy. Oliviera struggled, and to be honest its a gamble to play huge amounts for eto and him fail in seria A.

Also Barca might not want to sell mr Eto, so what do we do then?

So you sit down and dont sign any players since anyone could fail? Thats why you scout players. Obviously it could fail, buy you got to do your homework.
Milan didnt invest much in Oliveira, there wasnt any excitement at all with him arriving here.
On the other hand, we did spend some money on Gilardino and we didnt get what we expected, at least for now. Worst case: you lose some money selling him to Juve (or some random team).

kris

28-06-2007, 02:40

We're starting to see the effects of the TV deal on the smaller clubs.

Livorno: Tavano and Dhorasoo.
Udinese invested pretty heavily in Quag.
Catania bought two Argentineans.

This says nothing. Two unknown Argentinians is something the smaller clubs have signed for years. Dhorasoo is in most likelyhood a free transfer, Udinese only want Quagli because he can bring them bigger bucks. so out of the ones you mentioned I geuss only Tavano may be a investment, but I wouldn't be surprised if he is a loan deal...

I beg to differ...I thought we bought both Helveg and Bierhoff from Udinese when we got Zacc, who was coming off a good season with both players as coach of Udinese...but I could be wrong...:dontkn:

From all reliable sources I heard Capello was the one who wanted Bierhoff and Bierhoff was our first transfer... Zaccheroni had Helveg first on the list of players he wanted...

Hasan Rossonero

28-06-2007, 03:41

This says nothing. Two unknown Argentinians is something the smaller clubs have signed for years. Dhorasoo is in most likelyhood a free transfer, Udinese only want Quagli because he can bring them bigger bucks. so out of the ones you mentioned I geuss only Tavano may be a investment, but I wouldn't be surprised if he is a loan deal...

From all reliable sources I heard Capello was the one who wanted Bierhoff and Bierhoff was our first transfer... Zaccheroni had Helveg first on the list of players he wanted...

Wrong.

Bizzarri and Llama are not unknown Argentineans. I had heard of them a while back, and they are rated in Argentina. Obviously not superstars, but not "unknown" either.

I don't know if Dhorasoo is a free transfer, but Tavano is quite a coup. The smaller clubs are going to have fresh funds available for some serious transfers. Quag is another indication that Serie A is slowly (long way to go yet) moving towards a level playing field. Some clubs will see their transfer money quarupled in the next few years.

By the way Bizzarri has plyed his trade at Real Madrid (backup), Valladolid and Gimnastic.

The TV deals starts for the 2007/08 season for many clubs. I cannot remember Livorno moving so enthusiastically in the market.

Hasan Rossonero

28-06-2007, 04:11

Let's get started early:

Milan are rumoured to be making a 36 million bid for Drogba (Corriere).

Sleep

28-06-2007, 04:16

compare with 24m for henry, do you think the news is true?

conti

28-06-2007, 05:17

compare with 24m for henry, do you think the news is true?
I think its a lot of money and I don't know what his wages are but all in all he´s a player we could use to the fullest, strong, fairly good with the ball and pretty fast, at least compared to Gila and Pippo! maybe not as exotic like someone from Brazil or Argentina but we know what we would get with Drogba! In my opinion a guy like Fred from Lyon would be acceptable to do anyone know how old he is?

Rayno_acm

28-06-2007, 05:22

quite frankly, I know close to nothing about the guy ... his daddy was something special though :)
from what I know the son isn't even Levski's starting GK but is more of a young prospect coming thru the youth ranks ... so Pool must have seen something in him ... somehow :D

If they are going for him, he is either really good ... or his agent is a magician :grinser:
Well, I think it's the second option.
Let me give you some info about Nikolay Mihailov.
He's 19 and he is (or was already...) even the 3rd GK in Levski. He's been known like a problematic person. He is more famous about what he was doing out of the field than on the pitch. Just like Adriano he loves the discoteques. :djn: He also had some minor car crashes. :str: He's been often fined and even excluded from the squad. :ban:
He's girlfriend is a former Playboy star. :greed:
On the field he was very very poor and the fans always booed him.

So I'm not sure that L'pool are fully aware with what they will deal :grinser: But who knows, may be this will be the turning point for him :w221:
Deffinately he has skills, but his temper... :mute:

kris

28-06-2007, 05:25

Wrong.

Eh, no.

Bizzarri and Llama are not unknown Argentineans. I had heard of them a while back, and they are rated in Argentina. Obviously not superstars, but not "unknown" either.

They are pretty unknown, a few may have heard of Bizzari, not even I with all my football following and CM playing know who Llama is. Hardly the stuff of legends. Now if you could come up with some juicy transfer sums then that could support your argument.

I don't know if Dhorasoo is a free transfer, but Tavano is quite a coup.

Yeah, which was what I said, Tavano is the only "coup/big" transfer out of the one mentioned and it hardly shows anything of a trend. Dhorasoo was free: http://it.eurosport.yahoo.com/27062007/4/livorno-ritornano-in-toscana-arriva-dhorasoo.html

The smaller clubs are going to have fresh funds available for some serious transfers.

:howler: The relative small money we talk about is hardly enough to cover their huge debts and large deficits. Udinese is the only club not in red in serie A. to then talk about "serious transfers" is a quantum leap.

Quag is another indication that Serie A is slowly (long way to go yet) moving towards a level playing field.

Udinese and Sampdoria halfowned him. Udinese wanted him just so they could sell him for a profit. There is even talk about them doing that this summer, but more likely next. Udinese is the only club with green figures because they always sell their stars. I'll easily bet you 1000€ that Quagliarella will leave before next transfer season is over if he doesn't play like crap next year. Nope, he will end up (and more or less are) just another sign that the big fish will eat the small fish.

Some clubs will see their transfer money quarupled in the next few years.

Highly doubtful statment based on nothing unless you actually cough up some figures. This by the way was how Lazio went more or less bankrupt, they spent money they thought they would get in the future.

By the way Bizzarri has plyed his trade at Real Madrid (backup), Valladolid and Gimnastic.

Being second/third choice keeper in Real Madrid is nothing special. How many third keepers in the big clubs do we even know of? How many second choice do even know off?

The TV deals starts for the 2007/08 season for many clubs. I cannot remember Livorno moving so enthusiastically in the market.

Livorno have some semi-ambition. But one serie A team buying one €6M player is hardly a trend or sign of things to come.

Graeme C

28-06-2007, 06:12

Milan and Inter are both competing for Maresca, but Milan are favourites as Inter prefer Diarra. Also the report on tuttomercatoweb say he would be the ideal partner for Pirlo and gattuso. Plus he started playing in the Milan youth team, so he will help when the Uefa rules change.

Inter e Milan si starebbero sfidando per il centrocampista Enzo Maresca del Siviglia. Il ventisettenne regista salernitano, che sta vivendo un periodo molto felice della sua carriera in Andalucia, è molto gradito a Roberto Mancini, ed è considerato dai rossoneri partner ideale di Pirlo e Gattuso per implementare il valore del blocco di centrocampo dei rossoneri. Maresca è valutato circa dieci milioni di Euro dal Siviglia, e, se il presidente andaluso Del Nido accetterà di trattare la cessione del giocatore, il Milan sembrerebbe favorito, visto che l'Inter per il centrocampo è concentrata a trattare Diarra del Real Madrid.

Sleep

28-06-2007, 06:39

according to some news, Real has made a new Kaka bid: Emerson + Baptista + P50M for Kaka.

Tony75

28-06-2007, 07:04

Old news. Same reply from Milan -Big NO, and P off.

kris

28-06-2007, 07:43

That bid is worse than the last one we heard from as.

Hasan Rossonero

28-06-2007, 07:53

@kris

I find your post quite oblivious of reality.

Are you saying that the fact these clubs will have fresh funds available this year has nothing to do with more--even if marginally more--ambitious moves on the market?

The new TV deal guarantees, at the very least, 12 million sterling (I'm being very conservative in my estimates) in each of the club's coffers. What you say about the deficits is valid, but the reality is smaller clubs have quite a bit of spending money this year. Also, about the deficits, clubs in the Premiership are also operating at a loss, but they still splash the cash. The fiscal disaster of football is well documented and may be very severe in Italy, but is hardly exclusive to the country.

Anyway, your mind is obviously made up on the issue (despite the undeniable fact that the small clubs will have fresh funds available), but don't be surprised if we slowly start to see (over the next few seasons) clubs like Livorno and Atalanta snap up some good talent for good money.

P.S. You said the Argentineans were unknown, which was clearly hyperbole. They are fairly well known in the forums I frequent, and one of them had played in some relatively well known clubs. Of course, Catania aren't going to sign Riquelme. That will hopefully be Napoli. :grinser:

Hasan Rossonero

28-06-2007, 08:09

Galliani has dismissed claims that Milan are interested in Pato.

He said, however, that he has always liked Cassano. www.gazzetta.it

How would you guys feel about Cassano joining us?

I'd definitely welcome him, if he lost weight and started applying himself.

Debs

28-06-2007, 08:28

Quite disgusted we let Abbiati go to Atletico Madrid. :d55:

Hasan Rossonero

28-06-2007, 08:42

ADRIANO GALLIANI ON SUMMER TRANSFERS
6/28/2007

MILAN - 'I have always liked Cassano. We had a 'vote' on him in January because I am democratic, but it was not passed. We might have another vote now.' This is what Milan chief executive Adriano Galliani had to say before a Football League meeting. 'Our only negotiations from now to August 31 is for a striker, it's not a case of one, two or three but only negotiations with different great attackers. Has there been a meeting with Pato's agent? Milan speak to everyone and everyone thinks they can be a great Milan attacker. In any case, there is no particular interest in Pato. Agents are always trying to trigger auctions by talking to as many clubs as possible.'

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acmilan.com

conti

28-06-2007, 08:42

K77SH C

28-06-2007, 09:12

Galliani denies every signing whether he wants to make it or not.

Hasan Rossonero

28-06-2007, 09:17

Galliani denies every signing whether he wants to make it or not.
Quite right. This seems more posturing from Uncle Fester.

zeshkani

28-06-2007, 09:56

casano will ned a season to come in his form that was in roma cen we weit for his form ??

Hasan Rossonero

28-06-2007, 09:58

Good news for those who feared Makaay would be on our books next summer: he has gone to Feyenoord.

@zeeshkani

I think he would need 6 months at the most.

zeshkani

28-06-2007, 10:04

i think that galiani will make a switch Oliveira-Casano an some many for us

but i most say i dont like casano i just can like him but if he come to us i hope to score goals for us

Nordahl

28-06-2007, 10:13

It seems that Galliani's procedures are not successfull in bringing great players to us...

Warro Bantan

28-06-2007, 10:30

No Nordahl=GRE-NO-LI.....Gallaini has failed dismally in bringing great players to Milan:

Ronaldo, Weah, $heva, Rui Costa, Nesta, Pirlo, Seedorf, Gattuso, Kaka, Oddo, Cafu, are all poor players, certainly not great, and represent how ridiculous Galliani´s activities are with regard to incoming transfers.

We need to sack Galliani, and hope Berlu sells the club to a russian oligarch....imagine, we are several days into the transfer market, and have nothing to show for it. Sheesh, I think I will become an Inter fan...at least Morattidiot is buying some players, and great players are constantly being linked with them, even if they have 200 strikers on their books!

Hasan Rossonero

28-06-2007, 10:32

Hasan Rossonero

28-06-2007, 10:49

Milanesi fight for Maresca
Thursday 28 June, 2007
Milan and Inter could clash in the transfer market again as they both try to lure Sevilla midfielder Enzo Maresca.

The two city rivals have reportedly made contact with the Spanish side in the hope of negotiating a deal for the 27-year-old.

Having started his career in Milan’s youth side, Maresca made his full senior debut for West Bromwich Albion before returning to Juventus in 2000.

However, he failed to cement a regular place in the side and after three co-ownership deals was sold to Sevilla for just £1.7m.

Unlike several other Italian exports, Maresca has thrived in Spain and is a fans’ favourite at the Estadio Ramon Sanchez Pizjuan.

Inter’s offer is allegedly greater than Milan’s, with a figure of around £5.3m being suggested, but sources say that Sevilla won’t be satisfied with anything less than £7m.

After Milan’s controversial attempt to snatch David Suazo away from Inter at the 11th hour, both sides remain tight-lipped over their bids.
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channel 4

Warro Bantan

28-06-2007, 10:52

The sarcasm in that post is so thick, I can poke it. :D

But not everything Nordahl says has to be dismissed. He brings up some good points, even if we don't agree with some.

Quite so Hasan, but I am a bit tired of posters professing profound disappointment in a transfer season that is barely days old...we have 2 whole months to make transfers, and because Suazo went to Inter, and Henry to Barca...the sky is suddenly falling? :grinser:

GilAttack [11]

28-06-2007, 11:21

Abidal to Barcelona is now official, so I hope we sign Zambrotta ASAP.

Sleep

28-06-2007, 11:25

We did some great transfers, specially Pirlo and Kaka. But after Kaka's transfer, I don't think we have done any great transfer yet.

Nodarl is using v-ing so I think he is saying about last year and this year <untill now>, not so wrong ne. Hopefully this year the players coming to Milan are all <=25 years old or free transfer:D

Warro Bantan

28-06-2007, 12:57

Anyone watch the Copa America game last nite, with Brazil losing 2-0 to Mexico?

This guy, Castillo, though he missed an open goal in the dying minutes of the game, is a hot talent, and maybe we should be looking at him. To see the article reviewing his performance, click here (http://football.guardian.co.uk/breakingnews/feedstory/0,,-6742772,00.html)

He scored a wonder goal, and was all over the Brazil backline...they had very few answers for his pace and skill. The goal he scored was fantastic!!

mzk57

28-06-2007, 13:12

I am sick of hearing Samuel Eto'o :wallbang: being the first choice for ACM
There are many other cool, good looking and young players with alot of talent around, avalible on lower transfer fee than that strange person, such as
-Milan Baros
-Antonio Cassano
-G. Rossi
-Huntelaar
-Gudjohnsen
-Saviola

I don't know why :stupid: like Ronaldinho and Eto's are linked with ACM :wallbang:
Lionel Messi is also at Barca ;) Why don't some one talks abt his transfer to ACM??????

Imigine this combination

--------------Ronaldo---------------
---------Kaka--------Messi----------

Just like Maradona, Pele and Cryuff playing in the same team :bri:

eltomas2

28-06-2007, 13:19

the Lyon striker that Milan is scouting didnt even play for Brazil last night...on the bench, but he'll play on the next game seeing how Brazil lost

mrki

28-06-2007, 13:38

Alex really dissapointed me yesterday with his performance for Brazil. His heading and tackling is perfect as we all know it, but his passing and sprinting is awfull, I expected more form him. But then, Brazil was so bad yesterday that even Nesta would look lost.

I also expected more form Anderson, especially since i stayed up untill 5 AM to see him and Brazil, but it can be seen that the man has potential.

About Galliani's promises and lyes, its not fair to lie so much to faithfull crowd of Milan, especially Curva Sud. Its better just to shut up and work,like Barca does, or even Juve. Carlo asked for a midfielder to help him rotate next season in many occasions and it would be nice to make his wishes come true for once,as Carlo never got the exact players he wanted in Milan.

I have a feeling we will try to change Oliveira for Cassano, and go for another striker as well. That would be a good deal as far as Im concerned. Motta is on the market,and he has Italian passport, we could also go for him. We, apparently, offered 15 mil for Tiago, but he choose Juve. So that means we did want a midfielder. I hopw we'll eventually see few players in Milanello during the summer, hopefully good forward like Eto'o and a strong midfielder like Edmilson, Motta, Emerson...

I've lost my hopes for Zambrotta.... :(

mrki

28-06-2007, 14:03

Aaaand.....here we go again...Ronaldinho found in Milano with his brother doing god knows what... :tired:

Kaka1899

28-06-2007, 14:53

Galliani is now intrested in Cassano

so much for not dealing with Real Merda!

Hasan Rossonero

28-06-2007, 15:00

Aaaand.....here we go again...Ronaldinho found in Milano with his brother doing god knows what... :tired:

source please?

Hasan Rossonero

28-06-2007, 15:26

Guys sorry to be pedantic, but when you post news here could you please also post the source. :nervous:

Debs

28-06-2007, 15:33

Guys sorry to be pedantic, but when you post news here could you please also post the source. :nervous:

That's the standing rule here, folks--if you post any kind of news or even a comment like Ronaldinho and his brother being in Milan....you MUST also post the source.

Bosniaco

28-06-2007, 15:42

Here is the Cassano rumor

http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jun28l.html

Here is the R10 one:

http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/index.php?action=read&id=64948

Season tickets sale exploded:

http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jun28k.html

Edit: I kind of jumped in with the sources :grinser:

Hasan Rossonero

28-06-2007, 15:45

Bosniaco

28-06-2007, 15:49

Thanks man.
No charge Hasan. :5ok:

Warro Bantan

28-06-2007, 15:52

Aaaand.....here we go again...Ronaldinho found in Milano with his brother doing god knows what... :tired: Best news I have heard all day quite frankly. :pp20:

Kaka1899

28-06-2007, 16:07

Best news I have heard all day quite frankly. :pp20:

would you explain for me please Warro?

Warro Bantan

28-06-2007, 16:09

And to add fuel to the fire, Carlo, as quoted from acmilan.com:

CARLO ANCELOTTI: 'We are fine in defence and midfield'
6/28/2007
MILAN - 'Pato is very young, a lot of top clubs like him not just us. Is he the new Kakà? Let's go slowly.' This is what Carlo Ancelotti had to say on the questions concerning the young Brazilian talent from Porto Alegre. 'Eto'o is a very important player. If anyone arrives, it will be in attack. We are fine in defence and midfield.' So, now we can look for an attacker, a defender, and a midfielder, to come to Milan, based on Carlo´s comments.

Silly Season rules:
Rule 1 Almost every time, go against what club officials say about pending transfers, and what players the club are interested in
Rule 2 Believe everything the club officials tell you about upcoming transfers
Rule 3 Tabloid reports, are 98.7% accurate
Rule 4 Tabloid reports are never, ever, ever accurate
Rule 5 There are no rules.

:D

Kaka1899

28-06-2007, 16:16

And to add fuel to the fire, Carlo, as quoted from acmilan.com:

So, now we can look for an attacker, a defender, and a midfielder, to come to Milan, based on Carlo´s comments.

Silly Season rules:
Rule 1 Almost every time, go against what club officials say about pending transfers, and what players the club are interested in
Rule 2 Believe everything the club officials tell you about upcoming transfers
Rule 3 Tabloid reports, are 98.7% accurate
Rule 4 Tabloid reports are never, ever, ever accurate
Rule 5 There are no rules.

:D

which makes the prevous four rules Worthless and irrelevent! :D

Warro Bantan

28-06-2007, 16:17

would you explain for me please Warro? Well, its like this, if Ronaldinho has been seen in Milan, it can mean:
a) He is just there for some shopping
b) He is there to meet with either (i) Galliani :5ok: or (ii) Morattidiot :grinser:
c) He is actually just doing business with a sponsor
d) That the newspaper is lying, and he isnt even here

If we consider option (b), after all that has been said re his comming to Milan, we can but hope that he is here to talk to Galliani about the potential "transfer of the summer"...cant we? That he is even in Milan alone for me is good news..who knows, we might just kidnap him!

If we consider both option (b) and (c), then we can speculate even stronger that if he is doing business with a sponsor in the region, that it can only mean that "Club Ronaldinho" is coming to Italy to play for the Rossoneri!

As Zlat is fond of saying: You saw it here first!
:p017:

Kaka1899

28-06-2007, 16:23

Well, its like this, if Ronaldinho has been seen in Milan, it can mean:
a) He is just there for some shopping
b) He is there to meet with either (i) Galliani :5ok: or (ii) Morattidiot :grinser:
c) He is actually just doing business with a sponsor
d) That the newspaper is lying, and he isnt even here

If we consider option (b), after all that has been said re his comming to Milan, we can but hope that he is here to talk to Galliani about the potential "transfer of the summer"...cant we? That he is even in Milan alone for me is good news..who knows, we might just kidnap him!

If we consider both option (b) and (c), then we can speculate even stronger that if he is doing business with a sponsor in the region, that it can only mean that "Club Ronaldinho" is coming to Italy to play for the Rossoneri!

As Zlat is fond of saying: You saw it here first!
:p017:

thanks for clearing that up Warro :5ok:

and Zlat could sue you for every penny after using his catchphrase! :D

Bosniaco

28-06-2007, 17:14

According to tutto mercato web we have signed a "Sloveninan baby", some 16 year old kid named Mitja Novinic. Here is the link:

http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/index.php?action=read&id=64991

Here is the pic:
[img=http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/3070/3novinicge6.th.jpg] (http://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3novinicge6.jpg)

Warro Bantan

28-06-2007, 17:37

And yet people claim we only sign grandpas in their 70s!! :dontkn: :rollani:

Warro Bantan

28-06-2007, 17:45

Mystik

28-06-2007, 17:48

I think that's all to increase the number of 'home grown players' we have. Home grown being that the players have been registered to us for at least 3 years between 15 and 21. So in 3 years (if this is true at all) he would be considered as home grown.

_MaJi_tz

28-06-2007, 18:04

What you think can Rafa Marquez be Milanista???
I think he s free to go from barca they have chivu thuram puyol??'
He can play DM and CB
I juse asking lol

Interimovic

28-06-2007, 18:42

Looks like Inter wont be getting any additions to their Argentine contingent:

Click here (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=442207&cc=5739) for the link to the article stating that Tevez has decided not to go to Inter..or the Serie A for that matter!

And here I was thinking that it wa a done deal :bri: ....silly season strikes again!! :D
The Inter president underlined that "Tevez is no longer a target, we are fine as we are in attack", and that the discord with Adriano "is superable because the Brazilian player has enormous potential".

http://www.inter.it/aas/news/reader?N=26778&L=en

Moratti knows that there is allready too much strikes, Recoba will probablly leave and there is also rumor that Cruz is in deal for Chivu(not gona happen), Romanian will probablly go in Barcelona.

But there is your chance to get a great striker, Tevez is pure cllas and he would be happy to came in Milan because so many Argentinian players is in the city.

mrki

28-06-2007, 18:58

Barca went crazy on this mercato: Henry, Toure, Chivu, Abidal...and they'll go for Lampard laso. Well... I cant say I dont feel sorry we dont act like Champion of Europe.

We lack swerious marketing and money incomes from selling shirts in Asia and all around the world like Barca does. Still, we ARE Europe's most succesfull CL club in last 20 years so...

Maybe there is still chance for Ronaldinho this summer, who knows... But it looks that we'll end up with someone like Cassano in the end.

remote2book

28-06-2007, 19:11

Ghost

28-06-2007, 19:24

Not looking good...

remote2book

28-06-2007, 19:48

yea i agree milancelotti even though iam jealous but i think that other teams are more jealous of us because they see we won with a not so special team and teams like Manu and barca and byren want to show that they are still the strongest teams in europe.......because think abt it.....Man u won the EPL this year...Barca last two years won the LFP.......Byren won the bundesliga last year.....but we won the CL and have been the best team in europe and i think these other teams see that and want to make big moves to be succesful in europe....i just hope we atleast sign a striker

Hasan Rossonero

28-06-2007, 19:53

Barca have bought players that aren't uber expensive. Milan and Juve have different strategies when it comes to the market. We buy a couple of players to reinforce positions.

Also to say our team is not so special is risible. We have a fairly complete team, but what we need is a more complete squad. Also, remember, the transfer season has just started. Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal, Real, have not been spending.

@mrki
By the way this is Galliani speaking two years ago:

AC Milan generate more than €55m revenues from overseas markets

The Serie A club vice-president Adriano Galliani revealed the figure while speaking at a meeting with the club’s sponsors. Galliani believes the club’s business model is helping the brand achieve marketing success around the globe. “We have to compete with clubs like Real Madrid and Manchester United and we are first in China, where 33% of their football fans support Milan. Also,
we are expanding in the USA and in the Middle East. Our aim is to export everywhere in the world,” Galliani told the sponsors.

(source: http://www.eufootball.biz/Finance/921.html )

Jim_UK

28-06-2007, 20:04

last i read barcelona haven't signed chivu, lampard or abidal ...

remote2book

28-06-2007, 20:28

no they signed abidal

NAMMY

28-06-2007, 21:05

And to add fuel to the fire, Carlo, as quoted from acmilan.com:

So, now we can look for an attacker, a defender, and a midfielder, to come to Milan, based on Carlo´s comments.

Silly Season rules:
Rule 1 Almost every time, go against what club officials say about pending transfers, and what players the club are interested in
Rule 2 Believe everything the club officials tell you about upcoming transfers
Rule 3 Tabloid reports, are 98.7% accurate
Rule 4 Tabloid reports are never, ever, ever accurate
Rule 5 There are no rules.

:D

I hope so ...

Carlo has got to be kidding. Will we still be fine for next season if all we win is the Club World Championship?

GilAttack [11]

28-06-2007, 22:06

Looks like Inter wont be getting any additions to their Argentine contingent:

Click here (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=442207&cc=5739) for the link to the article stating that Tevez has decided not to go to Inter..or the Serie A for that matter!

And here I was thinking that it wa a done deal :bri: ....silly season strikes again!! :D

With Tevez being focused in Copa America and having stated some days ago that he would gladly join Inter (instead of Real Madrid), I feel this is pure crap from this mafia guy known as Kia Joorabchian. His words make it look as if Tevez will join his russian buddy Abramovich's Chelsea or stay put in West Ham. I would say there is a big chance he joins Chelsea.

After Eto'o, Tevez is my #1 choice. He wouldnt fail in Milan.

remote2book

28-06-2007, 22:17

guys abidal has agreed to sign with barca its a four year deal 15 million euros ..

http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/6970784

SkyEdge

28-06-2007, 22:38

Haiz.. i have this sneaky feeling we will sign the most
impossible signing of them all.. the most un-thought of
the most unimaginable, the most mind blowing signing
ever known in the history of football.

Moratti himself! signed on a free ! :x

mrki

29-06-2007, 06:19

According to calciomercato Emerson will follow Capello's footsteps out of Madrid... I believe that now Carlo can soon get his man. Other teams can buy as much young and fast attacking players as they want, all we need are few more DM's, and one or two defenders and they cant touch us!! They cant attack as much as we can defend. .. :grinser: And then we pass to Kaka' :devf:

_MaJi_tz

29-06-2007, 06:49

This is very interesting........
Gallian told we dont need new players in defence and midle.....

First abidal
Eric Abidal has revealed he has shunned interest from Milan to join his 'dream' club Barcelona.

The Lyon full-back will undergo a medical at Barcelona before being presented as the club's latest signing on Friday afternoon.

Barcelona appear to have finally met Lyon's demands for the France international, who is relishing the chance to play alongside compatriot Thierry Henry.

"Milan interest? It is true," Abidal told L'Equipe. "AC Milan is a very great club, but today Italy is not my aim. Maybe when I am older I will change my mind

And then Tiago
On his first day as a Juventus player, Portuguese midfielder Tiago showed enthusiasm for his new adventure.

"Juve convinced me because they were more determined to get me than Milan," he said. "I'm here to win the Scudetto."

Milan go in market for tree new faces thats for sure

Jim_UK

29-06-2007, 06:49

Abidal turned us down as Italy wasn't where he wanted to play yet. He still hasn't officially signed for them, that will take place today, so technically i'm right :nana: :D

Tiago's comments are a disappointing reflection on our club. We should either go full on to get someone or not bother, weakly trying to convince someone to sign isn't the right way to do things.

I still can't understand the 'We're fine in defence and midfield" comments. Tiago would have been a great addition to our central midfield, but instead we've signed Ba for some insane reason. He did nothing when he was with us the first time and is just another example of us taking the easy option in transfers. Why couldn't Ba's place go to Ze Roberto or Barusso? They would have offered alot more.

Stitch

29-06-2007, 07:02

hahahahahahahahaahahahahaahahahahahah

i haven't had a better laugh in some time

look at that SOAB's Mijatovic statement, concerning Bernd Schuster

"We are a gentleman's club and we will not make those types of mistakes," he said. "There are candidates and coaches that we like, but we have to respect those coaches and the clubs they manage. When we have a clear idea, the coach should do what he has to with his club in order to join us.

"We have time to look for the right person. We know how we want the next coach to be in order to win titles for the team in every competition. There are several candidates for the job, but I'm not going to give you any names out of respect for Fabio and our future coach.

"Many coaches would like to train this team, so it won't be hard to find the right person for the job. Berndt Schuster has the profile we are looking for, but we know he is still under contract with Getafe and we are not going to discuss the possibility of signing him out of respect for that Club.

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=339138

:grinser: :grinser: :stupid: :grinser: :grinser: :grinser: :grinser: :devf:

:rolleyes:

is he retarded or what?

lked

29-06-2007, 07:10

Looks like Ronaldinho was in Milan on Thursday good news :pp20: :pp20:
http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=339561
Exclusive: Ronaldinho's Milan Trip . It's on calciomercato too

Graeme C

29-06-2007, 07:30

tuttomercatoweb and corriere report after the suazo incident Milan will get first option on Michele canini. He is definately one for the future (only 22). Im not sure if it would be better to get him now, or get him now and leave him at cagliari for a year?

almilan

29-06-2007, 07:34

Canini has a lot of potential. Best to leave him at Cagliari next season so he gets more experience

Debs

29-06-2007, 08:10

Tony75

29-06-2007, 08:14

I'd prefer to sign Canini this Summer. Can't remember when we have ever taken up the option on any players we had 1st option on. He'll end up with inert or buve the way our management move.

drucurl

29-06-2007, 08:16

I think that Ancelotti's declaration that "if we buy a player it would be a striker" is a bit of a shot at Gila....because on goal.com he goes on to say that defence and mid are ok

kris

29-06-2007, 08:37

Tiago's comments are a disappointing reflection on our club. We should either go full on to get someone or not bother, weakly trying to convince someone to sign isn't the right way to do things.

Why couldn't Ba's place go to Ze Roberto or Barusso? They would have offered alot more.

Tiago for us would have been a reserve or a rotation player, for Juve he is a sure starter. that is the difference and the reason he ended up leaving Chelsea to begin with. He seems to prefer being a important player in his club over being in a important club.

Canini is IMO the best Italian defensive talent. But his progress was heavily suspended due to a long term injury he suffered with the Italian U-21 team last summer.

sveto

29-06-2007, 08:57

Anybody knows when the schedule for the new season will be posted.
I know England and Germany already announced their schedules.

Stitch

29-06-2007, 09:03

I read somewhere that Torres does the 100m in 9.9 s :eekani: Hell I'd buy him just to see him and Olivera go at it :D
Seriously, if it's any spaniard that is going to make it here it's Torres :5ok:

hey dru, did you move to italy in the last few days while I was gone? :D

(sorry for quoting old post, I was away for 5 days and trying to catch up with the thread :) )

zlatanov

29-06-2007, 09:41

I think that Ancelotti's declaration that "if we buy a player it would be a striker" is a bit of a shot at Gila....because on goal.com he goes on to say that defence and mid are ok
I think you read/trust that site a bit too much - they do what everyone else does, reshuffle rumours ... and even worse, they do it slower than many others :D

Not only carlo but Galliani too has been saying that if we get a new player, he would be a striker as we are all set in the other areas ... yet we make an official offer for Tiago, who himself admitted to that, and now Abidal comes out too and says that Milan anwted him but he prefered Spain (and England) over Italy ... and for that we can thank De Rossi, who is well on his way to fully emullate captain Totti in everything :rolleyes:

ginoformaggino

29-06-2007, 09:58

Anybody knows when the schedule for the new season will be posted.
I know England and Germany already announced their schedules.

http://www.lega-calcio.it/comun/0607/cu392.pdf

new season starts on august 26.
so, I think, the schedules will be published 10-15 days before

:diablo:

Graeme C

29-06-2007, 10:13

im kinda hoping this will be our transfers

Zambrotta (Barca might be tempted now they have abidal).
Canini (first option on him)
Maresca (if he doesnt sign for inter)
Emerson (has be told he can go for free) goal.com
Cassano (might be free) + Pato (for next season)
Eto / Sheva (more likely sheva).

Nordahl

29-06-2007, 10:19

Oh my God, Emerson will certainly join us... :irritate:

Hasan Rossonero

29-06-2007, 10:21

I think you read/trust that site a bit too much - they do what everyone else does, reshuffle rumours ... and even worse, they do it slower than many others :D

Not only carlo but Galliani too has been saying that if we get a new player, he would be a striker as we are all set in the other areas ... yet we make an official offer for Tiago, who himself admitted to that, and now Abidal comes out too and says that Milan anwted him but he prefered Spain (and England) over Italy ... and for that we can thank De Rossi, who is well on his way to fully emullate captain Totti in everything :rolleyes:
We can also attribute it to the fact that the French are sore losers. After the World Cup, some of the stuff they said about Italy was downright racist. De Rossi is certainly no saint, but neither are the French.

icculus

29-06-2007, 10:43

Not only carlo but Galliani too has been saying that if we get a new player, he would be a striker as we are all set in the other areas ... yet we make an official offer for Tiago, who himself admitted to that, and now Abidal comes out too and says that Milan anwted him but he prefered Spain (and England) over Italy ... and for that we can thank De Rossi, who is well on his way to fully emullate captain Totti in everything :rolleyes:

i wonder if milan just throws out a bid toward some of these players...
Abidal - he's on the market, milan thinks, hey if we can get him for "x" amount he would be worth it... something like this:

abidal agent calls and says he's entertaining offers...
Milan's brain trust puts his worth @ 8m(or whatever it is), if we get him at 8m = good investment, if we dont, no biggie.
abidal signs for 12m (or whatever it is)
But fans read into this as...Milan fails to get player they want...again...

Personally, i dont see where Milan DESPERATELY NEEDS players, except attack.
strikers - (3) quality starters -
om midfield - (4) quality starters -
dm (2) quality starters & a decent brocchi
d - (3) quality starters & at least (3) others solid players -

Ghost

29-06-2007, 10:43

We can also attribute it to the fact that the French are sore losers. After the World Cup, some of the stuff they said about Italy was downright racist. De Rossi is certainly no saint, but neither are the French.

Sore losers maybe but with De Rossi you can add matrix to that. If I was Zidane and he said something like that to me I would of head butted him three times just for the pain to sink in. There has always been history between the two sides so its pointless saying one side is better than the other and in my opinion both teams didn't deserve to win that game.

If the french do decide to join an Italian club, I think their first option will be Juve - the reason for this I just dont know.

Graeme C

29-06-2007, 10:59

If the french do decide to join an Italian club, I think their first option will be Juve - the reason for this I just dont know.

The platini thing, also Turin isnt that far away from france...

Hasan Rossonero

29-06-2007, 11:33

Sore losers maybe but with De Rossi you can add matrix to that. If I was Zidane and he said something like that to me I would of head butted him three times just for the pain to sink in. There has always been history between the two sides so its pointless saying one side is better than the other and in my opinion both teams didn't deserve to win that game.

If the french do decide to join an Italian club, I think their first option will be Juve - the reason for this I just dont know.
Zidane admitted on national television that Materazzi didn't say anything racist. He said it involved his sister and mother.

Zidane can cry all he wants, but his actions were repugnant as were Materazzi's. However, talking heat is part of football, and Zidane is not exactly wet behind the ears--he has played everywhere, so surely he must know that.

Hasan Rossonero

29-06-2007, 11:35

i wonder if milan just throws out a bid toward some of these players...
Abidal - he's on the market, milan thinks, hey if we can get him for "x" amount he would be worth it... something like this:

abidal agent calls and says he's entertaining offers...
Milan's brain trust puts his worth @ 8m(or whatever it is), if we get him at 8m = good investment, if we dont, no biggie.
abidal signs for 12m (or whatever it is)
But fans read into this as...Milan fails to get player they want...again...

Personally, i dont see where Milan DESPERATELY NEEDS players, except attack.
strikers - (3) quality starters -
om midfield - (4) quality starters -
dm (2) quality starters & a decent brocchi
d - (3) quality starters & at least (3) others solid players -

Well put. For Milan to get certain players is not as urgent as Juve, for example. So when a player like Abidal shows up on the market, they precisely take the attitude that you present.

Stitch

29-06-2007, 12:17

Zidane admitted on national television that Materazzi didn't say anything racist. He said it involved his sister and mother.

Zidane can cry all he wants, but his actions were repugnant as were Materazzi's. However, talking heat is part of football, and Zidane is not exactly wet behind the ears--he has played everywhere, so surely he must know that.

although it's off the topic, and although i don't like materazzi at all, i think his act was brilliant. there's no rule against trash talking on the pitch, but there is against head butting. MM exploited that perfectly. ZZ acted like a 18 years old kid, not as one of the greatest players playing his last match, and got what he deserved.

Nalx

29-06-2007, 13:53

Hey, I got this from http://www.channel4.com/sport/footb.../transfers.html about calcio mercato major moves which includes Borrielo to Genoa. Is it official?

Warro Bantan

29-06-2007, 13:58

Thats a question I wanted to ask myself Nalx...does anyone kno? I havent seen it on acmilan.com...but that doesnt mean it hasnt happened...:dontkn:

Hasan Rossonero

29-06-2007, 14:01

Thats a question I wanted to ask myself Nalx...does anyone kno? I havent seen it on acmilan.com...but that doesnt mean it hasnt happened...:dontkn:
Genoa president said it today as well, so it must be.

Nordahl

29-06-2007, 14:05

Anyway, who cares about Borrielo? :diablo:

icculus

29-06-2007, 14:24

the local dope dealer....

Hasan Rossonero

29-06-2007, 15:33

GAZZETTA:

Ronaldinho-Milan
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Galliani: "Per il momento il brasiliano non è cedibile e noi non andiamo a disturbare le altre società. Ma ora che Kakà è diventato italiano abbiamo un posto da extracomunitario libero...". Cassano? "Una sfida affascinante"
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Ronaldinho de Assis Moreira, 27 anni, Pallone d'oro 2005. Ap
MILANO, 29 giugno 2007 - "Tra Cassano e soprattutto Ronaldinho. Il mercato del Milan sta entrando nella fase decisiva, quella delle scelte e (come sperano i tifosi rossoneri) delle firme. Ecco il pensiero di Adriano Galliani, intervistato da Sky, sui giocatori che potrebbero arrivare dalla Spagna.
DA BARCELLONA - "Io non disturbo le altre società. Ho parlato col massimo dirigente operativo del Barcellona dopo il presidente Laporta, che è il signor Feran Soriano. Ronaldinho ed Eto'o al momento non sono cedibili. Sono molto soddisfatto perché avevamo 12 giocatori che dovevamo piazzare e siamo riusciti a piazzarne 11. Manca solo il portiere Storari che sicuramente troverà una collocazione giusta, quindi stiamo facendo molte operazioni in uscita", dice Galliani. Dalla Spagna però, giungono voci relative ad un Ronaldinho inquieto. "Non lo so, vediamo. Noi teniamo aperte le porte, abbiamo il nostro posto da extracomunitario libero perché Kakà è diventato italiano e quindi abbiamo un posto libero anche da extracomunitario".
DA MADRID - Ieri Galliani ha ribadito il proprio apprezzamento per Antonio Cassano e ha fatto riferimento a votazioni nello spogliatoio sull'eventuale arrivo dell'attaccante del Real Madrid. "Non si può scherzare. Io ho fatto una battuta entrando in Lega. A me Cassano è un giocatore che non dispiace ma dobbiamo essere d'accordo tutti. Mi piace perché sarebbe una sfida affascinante, il talento non manca a questo giocatore e magari nell'ambiente Milan potrebbe fare bene, chi lo sa?".
SHEVA - Galliani riserva una battuta anche sulla cena a Miami tra Maldini e Shevchenko. "Non lo so ma mi arrivano ritorni di ogni genere. Per Shevchenko c'è da capire se c'è la possibilità, ma anche qui il Chelsea ci ha detto di no. E se c'è, biogna vedere a che prezzo. Anche lui è extracomunitario per via delle norme che sono cambiate ma noi possiamo prendere un attaccante sia comunitario che extracomunitario. Quindi siamo aperti a tutti gli attaccanti del mondo".

-----

In short:

1) Our door is always open for Ronaldinho.
2) Sheva's arrival depends on Chelsea's willingness to sell and the price.
3) Galliani likes Cassano and believes he could flourish in an atmosphere like the one Milan has.

I have a feeling the Oli-Cassano swap will happen.

Giorgos

29-06-2007, 15:34

Everybody but, they also sell, we only sell since now and i started worrying, Juventus are started creating a very competitive team.... Barca makes very goos mooves Henry, Abidal et.c....

mrki

29-06-2007, 15:37

Stuttgart has just sued Juve to FIFA for illegal approach to Meira and Gomez... http://www.net.hr/sport/ukratko/page/2007/06/29/0505006.html

They said that Juve tapped their players without clubs knowledge and that they are not Juve's colony so Juve has no right to di so... Bravo Stuttgart! Some old habbits dont die so fast! Juve merda! :devf:

Warro Bantan

29-06-2007, 15:40

I read with interest the posts with regard to Tiago and Abidal, and was pleasantly surprised at the resultant comments...and would like to add to that overall position, by stating that, despite what we may think, because of a "relative silence" on our moves, Milan are actively trying to get players, and some very good ones in my estimation.

So, we are looking for at minimum 3 players, one striker, one midfielder, and one defender...not bad...so lets all sit back, and watch as the news unfolds, shall we?

Hasan Rossonero

29-06-2007, 15:45

Warro Bantan

29-06-2007, 15:47

No I suggest we pule and whine on internet message boards and compare our inactivity in the market to great tragedies like the Great Depression. :haha:

Good one!! And u have the nerve to talk about my sarcasm!! :5ok:

Yours is so think I could make a blanket out of it!! :devil:

Hasan Rossonero

29-06-2007, 16:25

:haha:

Good one!! And u have the nerve to talk about my sarcasm!! :5ok:

Yours is so think I could make a blanket out of it!! :devil:

Don't ever take that out of context. :D

ginoformaggino

29-06-2007, 16:51

here the official Champions' League takings
http://www.uefa.com/newsfiles/555726.pdf
page 6

Jim_UK

29-06-2007, 17:01

Tiago for us would have been a reserve or a rotation player, for Juve he is a sure starter. that is the difference and the reason he ended up leaving Chelsea to begin with.

Completely disagree. Tiago would have easily been a starter alongside Pirlo & Gattuso in the central midfield positions. He's better than Ambrosini in terms of ability and offers the same amount of running and combative style as the Italian. He's better than Brocchi for that position and while he doesn't have the skill Seedorf has, he has the legs to run that position much better than Clarence ever did.

because of a "relative silence" on our moves, Milan are actively trying to get players, and some very good ones in my estimation.

Whilst i agree with you to an extent, you can't say that we've tried with the up most determination to get either player. Tiago said himself that Juve wanted him more and while the whole Suazo debacle was complex, Inter still made him feel alot more wanted and valued than we did. You might also ask did we do enough to convince Abidal to join us? This is the trickier one of the 3 as it seems he 'dreamt' of playing for Barcelona, but maybe we could have been a bit more persuasive.

My point being what is the purpose of going after these players half-heartedly? You either really want them because you think they'll be of value to the side or you don't go for them at all.

nefremo

29-06-2007, 17:56

How do you know they went half-hartedly Jim? Just because Tiago said that Juve was more determained, doesn't mean anything. For all we know, Juve might have offered him a more effective role in their side(and even if they didn't we can all see that he will most probably be a starter over there while it is a big argument whether he was going to be the same at Milan) and for him that might have been the "more determained" part he was talking about. You say he is better then Ambrosini and Brocchi and even possibly Seedorf, and I am not going to argue that. However, how can you say that he was easily going to be a starter among competition like that. In my oppinion Dhorasoo was possibly better then Ambrosini at the time as well but never became a starter and Vogel always performed great when one the field but never became a starter as well. Tiago was going to face a very stiff competition to put a foot on the field among players that have Carlo's trust. In my oppinion, he knew that very well and that was I think one of the big reasons he chose Juve.

About Abidal, like you said he stated he wanted Barcelona and there is nothing to be ashamed of in that. After all, not every player in the world wants to play for Milan as there are other great clubs out there as well. I don't see how we could be more persuasive unless we offer so much more money to him then Barcelona, which in my oppinion is not necessary to double player's salaries just to make them come to Milan.

Suazo....again a player that said that he has been in constant contact with Inter since last summer. A player that gave his word to them and a man that stood by his word. We offered more money then Inter to Cagliari and I doubt the offer to Suazo himself was any lower then Inter's. So there was a lot of determination to get him, but the whole move was twisted so we dropped it.

kastriot

29-06-2007, 19:57

the local dope dealer....

You almost got me into stitches .....this is hilarious.... :grinser: :grinser:

Kaka--7thUCL

29-06-2007, 20:50

I really want a midfielder, an attacker, 2 defenders and a GK.

Most of you are fully commited to Dida, but I don't think he's fully commited to the net. He won't be good next year, he will make us suffer, making useless mistakes, don't be fooled by a few good matches. I say buy the following players.

GK: Landreau (Next Casillas AT LEAST;check out vids)
Defence: Mexes,Zaccardo(age?)
Midfield: Quaresma or Emerson(IF cheap.)
Attack:Eto'o and Pato OR Kerlon, one of the two to fill in for R99 since hes injured quite literally half the season..BUT to keep the salaries at a normal rate, SELL Oliveira, I don't think Galliani has the gutz to get rid of Gila :irritate:

Hasan Rossonero

29-06-2007, 21:31

Milan debate Cassano bid
Saturday 30 June, 2007
Milan transfer guru Adriano Galliani has left the door open for Ronaldinho, Andriy Shevchenko and admitted the squad must vote on whether to welcome Antonio Cassano.

The Rossoneri thought they had signed their new striker when a £10m deal was struck with Cagliari, but David Suazo insisted on joining their arch rivals Inter, so the search is back on.

“I will not disturb other clubs,” he told Sky Italia. “I spoke with Barcelona’s top director after the President, who is Feran Soriano, but at the moment Ronaldinho and Samuel Eto’o are not for sale.”

Nonetheless, Galliani is keeping his hopes up, as the arrival of Thierry Henry could squeeze the Brazilian out of the Nou Camp.

“We will see. We are keeping our doors open and have a free non-EU member place because Kaka got married and now has an Italian passport.”

One of the other players earmarked for that spot was Shevchenko, who would welcome a return to San Siro just a year after his troubled £30m move to Chelsea.

The reports of another bid were fuelled when Sheva met with Paolo Maldini as both were on holiday in Miami.

“I am getting all sorts of information,” confessed Galliani. “When it comes to Shevchenko, we have to understand if there is a possibility of the transfer and at what price, but here as well Chelsea said no.

“He is also a non-EU member, but we have a place and are open to taking in any striker from any nationality in the world.”

That includes an Italian, so over the past few days Milan have come out into the open with their interest in Real Madrid misfit Cassano.

“Cassano is a player that I would like, but we all have to agree on the matter. I like him because it would be a fascinating challenge. He certainly doesn’t lack talent, so perhaps he would flourish in an environment like Milan, who knows?”

Former Roma starlet Cassano is notorious for his temperament and has had several bust-ups with Coaches at club and international level, including Fabio Capello and Gigi Del Neri.

It is reported that the Rossoneri will have a vote inside the locker room and among the Coaching staff before deciding whether to make a firm bid for the volatile player.

“We are working hard at the moment on cutting down the size of the squad and have already found placements for 11 of the 12 players who will be leaving this summer. The only one still to go is goalkeeper Marco Storari, who will certainly find the best place for him.”

Another of Milan’s shot-stoppers, Ferdinando Coppola, has been loaned out to Atalanta after spending last season at Piacenza.

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GilAttack [11]

29-06-2007, 21:48

Id rather look elsewhere (No Cassano, No Shevchenko).

rt9

29-06-2007, 22:27

I guess the bottom line is that none of us can claim that our transfer market have been failures---given the amount of success we have had on the pitch over the last five years. After all, aside from marketing related issues, that is the best way to measure success isnt it?

The only thing that frustrates me is the speed and efficiency with which we do things. You guys remember the Shevchenko transfer? That was done and dusted for big money, about six months BEFORE he actually joined us. Now our entire management knew that we needed a fast, technical striker many months ago. They have been courting Ronaldinho for the last year---Why havent they come up with some conclusions? If he is available, then we get him, if not let's look elsewhere and conclude the deal. Doesnt seem like we have any fixed targets. It's almost like: "If R10 is available, we will try for him" "If Etoo is available, we will make a bid" "We got Suazo, thats' the end of our mercato" " We would like to get Tiago" "Emerson is just the player we need"

My question is, who do we want? Seems like the management dont know. They should just list their main targets and go for them. If it's Suazo, then we should have given Inter a run for their money. If it is R10, then we should know by now whether he is available. If it was Tiago, then we could have given him some assurances and snatched him from Juve. If it was Emerson, then we should already be in negotiations....Frustrating..

remote2book

30-06-2007, 03:01

k guys i say if we cant get eto'o who plain out said he doesnt wanna move from barca even though alot of us think otherwise since this is the "SILLY SEASON" but drobga hasnt commited to chelsea and we been linked with him since last summer and he wants to play in italy and iam sure he would like to win a champions league title..and wat better team to do it with than mighty milan...

http://eurosport.yahoo.com/30062007/58/premiership-drogba-future-doubt.html

hitmannq8

30-06-2007, 04:05

not many people are talking about Cassano. IMO, he seems to be the one that is most linked with us at the moment. The way Galliani is talking about him, I actually think we might end up getting him. Its looking like it was only Cesare Maldini that was against him coming to Milan, but others like Galliani and Carlo want him. Let's see what happens.

Oh ya and btw, if in top form, Cassano > Eto'o, Gila, Ronaldo.. Cassano is special, if we just manage to cool his head, he can be something and can make our attack something, but that is a big IF.

I'd love to see us going for Cassano in attack and maybe Sheva too, giving away Oliveira and hopefully Gila too. I'd love to see us reinforce our defence with players like Zambrotta/Chivu (anyone else here think we might hijack him?). Midfield we seemed destined to get Emerson but reports simply just vanished and we started to see reports that we wanted to play Gourcuff more, but that makes no sense because Emerson was needed for a total different role than Gourcuff. Ahh nevermind I dont want to hurt my head thinkin about it, I have faith in our management but they are increasingly making me frustrated by their lack of movement and spending.

Graeme C

30-06-2007, 04:23

i wouldnt mind cassano as long as he doesnt throw his toys out the bram. Milan should offer him a year contract, and see what the Milan lab can do with him. That is my main worry, but with so many big names arround him he really would have to behave. If he wants to get his italy shirt back that is..

With Ronaldos and Inzaghis injurys i think we could do with 5 strikers

Gila
Inzaghi
Ronaldo
Sheva
Cassano

Then get pato next season if Ronaldo or inzaghi go.

hishamilan

30-06-2007, 05:17

i don't know guys all decent defenders are booked and galliani is cool about the midfeild " he shall see pirlo die from fatigue next season " and all strikers we think we get are attracted to milano's other side < i am worried >

hishamilan

30-06-2007, 05:21

BUT i think if we hurry up on barusso + luisao + luco gonzales + any striker" pato or etoo or cassano or santacruz " + a utility player " montolivo or rosina or deco " , we will all be very content

Hasan Rossonero

30-06-2007, 06:58

Berlusconi: Bring me Adriano!
Saturday 30 June, 2007
Milan President Silvio Berlusconi admits Andriy Shevchenko is too expensive, but publicly asks Inter for Adriano!

The patron has never disguised his fondness for Sheva, even after the £30m move to Chelsea leaving the door wide open for a surprise comeback.

“Shevchenko is always in first place for me, but Roman Abramovich is asking too much. Shevchenko would have no problem in returning to us and I am convinced he would be the ideal partner for Ronaldo.”

“Our fans must relax. We will get a great player, but without rushing it, as it is important to have patience,” said the patron after missing out on David Suazo to rivals Inter.

“Cagliari offered us Suazo, then when we discovered it was not possible to sign him, we stepped aside and refused to put obstacles in Inter’s path.”

The good rapport between the two ‘cugini’ could also see a shock summer transfer, as Suazo’s arrival pushes Adriano out of the Nerazzurri squad. Could Milan swoop for the unsettled hitman?

“If only! I have always liked Adriano a great deal and think that he would be at ease at Milan among all the Brazilians we have here,” smiled Berlusconi.

“Milan are a huge family and being here would give him the opportunity to express himself at his best, just as Ronaldo already has.”

This is not the first time that the thought of Adriano wearing the Rossoneri jersey has crossed the front pages, but Berlusconi takes it a step further.

“With what happened recently I’m not sure if it will be possible, as I called Massimo Moratti to organise a friendly match so Milan and Inter could celebrate their success together, but we haven’t been able to find a date yet.

“Having said that, I repeat that I would very much like Adriano at Milan if we could reach an agreement with Inter.”

Other candidates for the forward role include Samuel Eto’o and Ronaldinho, but Barcelona have stated the pair are not for sale.

“I also want to remind fans that we already have an important new player – Ronaldo can now compete for us in the Champions League.”

Meanwhile, Milan are closing in on former Juventus and Roma midfielder Emerson, who will not be needed at Real Madrid after Fabio Capello’s dismissal.

The Brazilian, known as ‘Puma’, has reportedly already been in negotiations with the Rossoneri for some time and finally got the all-clear to leave Madrid.

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Hasan Rossonero

30-06-2007, 07:05

Hasan Rossonero

30-06-2007, 07:15

Chelsea's Didier Drogba claims he is not yet certain to start the new season at Stamford Bridge.

The Ivorian hit-man had a sensational campaign with The Blues last term - bagging 33 goals and again emerging as one of the most feared strikers in Europe.

However, Drogba - linked with a possible move to Italy - insists he has not yet made up his mind whether to remain in West London.

"You want to know if I will still return to Chelsea? I will reply to that when I am ready. For now I am having a deserved vacation," he told The Sun.

"I love the English league and may not be in a hurry to leave England if you insist.

"But it's difficult to really predict what I want to do in the next week.

"I have been working hard and would love to win the Champions League with Chelsea.

"But, for now, let's just wait and see. I'm at the last big turning point of my career.

"It's time for one final big choice: 'Should I stay or should I go?'

"I am tempted to discover another world and to see what footballing life is like outside England."

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Jim_UK

30-06-2007, 08:07

I don't see why we would want Adriano, he's an even bigger lump than Ronaldo at the moment and his attitude/partying antics leave alot to be desired. I really hope we stay clear of him.

There's an interesting story on the CH4 site about Lyon's interest/offer for Grosso where they label him as the 'Inter benchwarmer'. I'd like to see a new, younger/better option for left-back instead of Favalli, so maybe Grosso or Pasquale of Fiorentina would be worth a shout.

zlatanov

30-06-2007, 08:29

In the interview that I have placed above, Berlu also said they would go for a young defender.

Yeah, I think the Cassano thing will go through because we can give Oli in exchange. Real want to get rid of Cassano, and we want to get rid of Oli.
Hasan could you relay what Silvio said about Milan going after a young defender 'cause I couldn't find anything on that in his interview on calciomercato.it (fuller version than what's on channel 4) or sky.it too?

As for Cassano, I think the ides is to get Cassano AND the touted super-striker ... Cassano is seen more as an experiment and I doubt Milan would bet everything on him right now and desert their pursuit of the world-class striker Galliani and Silvio have been talking about left and right.

It also seems that Real won't ask for a transfer fee for him and would be glad to get rid of him just to save on his salary (around 4-4.5 mil/season), so I guess it could well be possible to have both Cassano and Emerson in exchange for RO, if Real still want him and Milan is still after Emerson.
There were some rumours that Real M were willing to let Emerson go for free but I think that was a misinterpretation of the situation after they, reportedly, let Emerson's agent know that Emerson is free to look for another club ... that doesn't necessarily mean that they won't be searching for a transfer fee.

Ghost

30-06-2007, 08:35

I think RO for Cassano & Emerson would be fine rather than just getting Cassano in return as we paid a bit of money for RO.

To me there just aren't enough strikers on the market to go for, Tevez looks likely to move to a EPL club, Torres looks most certain for Liverpool, Chelsea wont let Sheva leave, Eto & R10 look like they want to remain in Barca. However on another note we made an offer for Motta.

http://goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=340337

I have mixed emotions about this.

One more thing I want to ask people who know more about me than Italian rules, why is it that Italian teams dont do what EPL clubs do? What im talking about is basically robbing the young players from the Barca set up, paying a few hundred thousand pounds and nurturing them? Is there some kind of law which doesnt let Italians side make full use of this? Look at players like Cesc Fabregas, Merida, Pique and Liverpool have just got a very skilled player called Pacheco. This would be ideal for Milan, to take a few players and give them time to develop.

sveto

30-06-2007, 08:43

if cassano wants to join the great team of Milan, he better get his act together, otherwise we simply dont need the spoiled boy from Bari.

rosoneri_11

30-06-2007, 08:53

I'm very sad that we are loosing Torres. Milan is interested for him since he was 17,
we were always interested for him, and also Atletico haven't paid us 15M euros from last transfers.
Liverpool is very close to sign him, and we are not connected with noone big striker! (Ronaldinho,Eto,Suazo,Torres,Trezeguet,Sheva,Klose, will not join us)
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Now i think the big available strikers are these: Tevez,Pato,Huntelaar,Villa,Drogba

ThrusT

30-06-2007, 08:54

if cassano wants to join the great team of Milan, he better get his act together, otherwise we simply dont need the spoiled boy from Bari.
I'm pretty sure that he will mature with the guidance of our great legends such as Maldini and Billy.
It seems the board and the players are going to vote whether or not Cassano is welcome, which is a good thing.
Seems Berlu would really like Adriano, this would be terrific !

'Bout Motta, let's just say this player doens't light my fire.
Barca should keep their crap players and they ought to sell us Zambrotta.

Graeme C

30-06-2007, 09:29

im not convinced with adriano either.. if hes not good enough for Inter he shouldnt come here... its just more Brazilian hype.

do you think the defender belusconi is talking about is canini?

zlatanov

30-06-2007, 09:42

im not convinced with adriano either.. if hes not good enough for Inter he shouldnt come here... its just more Brazilian hype.

do you think the defender belusconi is talking about is canini?
guys could you post a link to that ... I am asking cause I am yet to find anything about a defender in Silvio's interview on calciomercato.it or sky.it ... today there is a strike for journalists in Italy and many of the other sites are not updating there stories/news.

Milanfan_101

30-06-2007, 10:02

Graeme C

30-06-2007, 10:05

mrki

30-06-2007, 10:09

Regarding Cassano, I am up for getting him if we can. I was also for getting him last summer but we decided on Oliveira the killer! :grinser:

Cassano is a player that, purely tecnicaly speaking, has it all. He is a perfect 2nd striker. He is 25 years old and Italian. He has a lot of serie a experience also. When he was in form he did wonders combining with Totti, and I think he can do the same with Kaka'. Milanello can help him become the player he once was, and his class isnt questionable at all. All he needs is a month or so on good training regime and a little bit of patience. He is not the star he used to be and beybe he learned his lession by sitting out the season in Madrid. If we were ready to pay 17 mil for Oliveira, why not getting Petar Pan this summer? If someone 3 years ago told you that Milan will have a chance to play Gilardino-Cassano-Inzaghi-Ronaldo upfront, I doubt we would hesitate a second... Go get Cassano.

Im also sure that we need another holding midfielder like Motta and emerson, as Brocchi, as much as our players and trainers like him, and he played few great matches this season, simply isnt the player of CL calibre. Madrid DIDNT say they'll let go emerson for free, but that he is FREE TO LEAVE. One of Motta-Emerson could help us rotate more in the middle and still use Gourcuff( after watching European U-21 I understood how good Gourcuff actually is...)

If Galliani can secure Emrson and Cassano for a low cost that would be a BRILLIANT transfer move as those players can help Milan a lot, especially in serie a. We still have one non-EU space opened and I think we'll get someone from abroad... Lets just wait as Berlusconi said.

Tony29.

30-06-2007, 10:22

How much do you think Milan will pay for Emerson ? Real bought him from Juve for 13m euro and so far they payed only 1/3 of the money and they still have to pay Juve ~9m euro for him.
Will they agree to sell him for less than 9m and then use these money and even add their money to pay for a player they don't have anymore ?

Hasan Rossonero

30-06-2007, 10:28

Hasan could you relay what Silvio said about Milan going after a young defender 'cause I couldn't find anything on that in his interview on calciomercato.it (fuller version than what's on channel 4) or sky.it too?

As for Cassano, I think the ides is to get Cassano AND the touted super-striker ... Cassano is seen more as an experiment and I doubt Milan would bet everything on him right now and desert their pursuit of the world-class striker Galliani and Silvio have been talking about left and right.

It also seems that Real won't ask for a transfer fee for him and would be glad to get rid of him just to save on his salary (around 4-4.5 mil/season), so I guess it could well be possible to have both Cassano and Emerson in exchange for RO, if Real still want him and Milan is still after Emerson.
There were some rumours that Real M were willing to let Emerson go for free but I think that was a misinterpretation of the situation after they, reportedly, let Emerson's agent know that Emerson is free to look for another club ... that doesn't necessarily mean that they won't be searching for a transfer fee.
sure man.

acmilan.com (http://www.acmilan.com/NewsDetail.aspx?idNews=49065)

Sulla difesa: "L'erede di Maldini? Vorremmo trovare un difensore giovane, come abbiamo trovato Kakà per l'attacco. Cannavaro? Pensando agli anni di Costacurta e Maldini lui è un ragazzo, ma come dicevo puntiamo a un giovane".

Jim_UK

30-06-2007, 10:34

On Emerson we for once are in the driving seat as Real want to sell him and we don't really need him. We should pay no more than £2 million for him and as suggested elsewhere Cassano & Emerson for Oliveira sounds perfect. For once Real will have to cut their losses and lose out on a deal.

Having said that, i don't really want either Emerson or Cassano .. or Adriano.

Chivu is available for £12 million, i'm still not totally convinced by him but we do need a good central defender. It's unlikely Roma will sell to us, i expect him to go to Madrid with Cicinho coming the other way, but you never know.

zlatanov

30-06-2007, 10:42

sure man.

acmilan.com (http://www.acmilan.com/NewsDetail.aspx?idNews=49065)

Sulla difesa: "L'erede di Maldini? Vorremmo trovare un difensore giovane, come abbiamo trovato Kakà per l'attacco. Cannavaro? Pensando agli anni di Costacurta e Maldini lui è un ragazzo, ma come dicevo puntiamo a un giovane".
thanks, Hasan :5ok: ...
totally forgot to look at the official site :v46: :grinser:

How much do you think Milan will pay for Emerson ? Real bought him from Juve for 13m euro and so far they payed only 1/3 of the money and they still have to pay Juve ~9m euro for him.
Will they agree to sell him for less than 9m and then use these money and even add their money to pay for a player they don't have anymore ?
I don't think Milan would give more than 5-6 mil euros for him, if we are talking about paying cash and not with a player exchange (RO).

After all, Ronaldo cost Milan 7.5 mil (8 if you count the extra 500,000 we paid them with Milan reaching CL qualification) and he was 30 yo then vs 31 for Emerson now. Plus Ronaldo was still Ronaldo - even if unwanted by the coach and club, he was still one of the biggest names around when we struck that deal and names inflate prices a lot ... Emerson on the other hand, while a famous mid, doesn't have that status of star.
And to top it all, what really drives prices down is the desire of Real M to sell or rather get rid of that player at just about any price, something that again resembles the Ronaldo case A LOT.

Those 9 mil were probably part of the budget for last year ... either way, Real M not wanting him around would hardly warrant them asking for 9 mil as not many clubs would pay such money for a 31 yo player coming off a rather average season.
Plus, the money Real M paid for Emrson was based on the evaluation of a player who had had an excellent season with Juve at the time ... now things are on the opposite end, and him being an year older, pretty much negates any past market values for that player (which btw is true for RO too)

Hasan Rossonero

30-06-2007, 10:44

Graeme C

30-06-2007, 11:06

a best of cassano

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKHERPbf-PI

andrei1

30-06-2007, 11:06

With Liverpool reportedly closing in on Torres, I am flabbergasted as to why AC Milan have not tried to sign him?

AC Milan and Atletico Madrid seem to have a decent relationship going back to the days of Jose Mari and Albertini switching clubs, and now more recently Abbiati being loaned out. This history would suggest a good raport between the two management teams.

Oliveira is the only striker who will be allowed to leave, mainly as a make weight in any deal involving a big name striker coming to Milan. Since he has La Liga experience, I would think he would be an ideal candidate!

Torres is young, big name, and proven goal scorer. Two seasons ago Milan signed a similar type from within the Italian League. The only difference is Torres has exceptional self confidence. Being captain of a Madrid side at 23 years is no small acheivement and the fact that he is a battler is something to note.

And why Milan ignore this talent????

Graeme C

30-06-2007, 11:07

partnership of cassano- Gilardino could be really interesting. Gilardino said a while back that he would love to play upfront with cassano.

mrki

30-06-2007, 11:11

Im 100% sure Milan will not pay 9 mil for a 32 year lod Emerson. 5 mil is just enough for him, aldough oliveira could be included in the deal. WE'll see it all soon I guess...

zlatanov

30-06-2007, 11:14

Why are you trying to make Milan look like a retirement home - Emerson is only 31 yo, not 32 :zany:
:grinser:

lana

30-06-2007, 11:24

Barcelona have just bought Abidal, I suppose if Rijkaard doesn't win the Champions League and League in style , its adios for him.

mrki

30-06-2007, 11:31

Tottentam bought Bent for 25 mil! Ah, the old English tradition of overpaing players... 25 mil for BENT?? Is that the Bent I know or some young super Brazilian Bent?? :)

Maltese Charlie

30-06-2007, 11:42

To Zlatanov, Hasan Rossonero and all other members who can read Italian.

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All you have to do is to subscribe and pay a very small fee. (depends on what category you choose to subscribe)

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And during this period of calciomercato at 5.30 in the morning I am always reading the latest news of la gazzetta, which later on during the day will be released on several websites. :devf:

Ghost

30-06-2007, 11:54

I personally think the player which would fit exactly into our system and imo is the cheapest out of the lot of them has to be Oba Martins. Hes young, has skill and pace with a buyout clause of only 13 Million. I know recently he has been linked with a number of English clubs but I think Milan should go for him. Unless Moratti actually but something on his contract which makes him unavailable for us.

Stezagud

30-06-2007, 11:55

Tottentam bought Bent for 25 mil! Ah, the old English tradition of overpaing players... 25 mil for BENT?? Is that the Bent I know or some young super Brazilian Bent??

Since when does someone have to be Brazilian to be valuable?

Im not sure how much you know about Bent beyond the price but the basic fact is he is a proven goalscorer in the EPL. He is an almost perfect parallel for Gilardino actually, except he cost less. The old Italian tradition of over paying for players i guess ;)

Kaka--7thUCL

30-06-2007, 12:05

BENT isnt the perfect parallel to Gila! Bent is the parallel to Oliveira! He sucks!

Kaka--7thUCL

30-06-2007, 12:16

Doesn't it concern you guys, also, that Milan will get a forward and leave it at that? I don't want this.. Day in day out, I've been hoping to god that we sign defenders, we hardly need a forward, if we get defenders and can still get a forward, good, but my main concern is two young defenders too fill in for Maldini and Cafu, Mexes and Zaccardo are at the top of my list right now for defence, we also need a goalie though, still, Landreau tops that list, as he is going to be amazing if he comes to milan, the guys exactly like Casillas if you see videos. I just don't like he perries to many balls out instead of grabbing hold and he runs out of his net alot but man his saves are great he hardly lets any free kicks in, or shots from far like Dida, thats his main strength actually (Landreau) and his dives are divine.. Anyways AFTER that we can look into our attack and midfield. For attack I STILL think we should go for eto'o no matter if hes for sale or not, we need to cut down Barca's power house attack, and Eto'o would fit into milan good aswell, and then theres our least concern, midfield, but to add some speed and depth to it, Quaresma :)

Kaka--7thUCL

30-06-2007, 12:20

We could use Emerson too though, sub, or w.e, he will probably be in full form like at Juventus if he were to join Milan, which makes him a good player. Not great, but good

GilAttack [11]

30-06-2007, 12:22

So Grimi went to Siena? Hahah, a walking disaster as I said back then.

Kaka--7thUCL

30-06-2007, 12:23

He went to Siena on lease? Or was he sold :S

zlatanov

30-06-2007, 12:27

Since when does someone have to be Brazilian to be valuable?

Im not sure how much you know about Bent beyond the price but the basic fact is he is a proven goalscorer in the EPL. He is an almost perfect parallel for Gilardino actually, except he cost less. The old Italian tradition of over paying for players i guess ;)
Gila cost Milan 24 mil euros, so he is not more expensive :)
as for Bent, he would probably have to score twice more goals in the EPL than he has to be compared to Gila - the goals bent has scored for ChA in his whole career there are what Gila was scoring for 1 season only at Parma - and in all fairness he is good player but is nowhere near 25 mil worth - considering the European market in general - let alone live up to the expectations the English press had for him and although he is still 23 or so, I don't think he ever will.

Anyways, people should realize that the English market for transfers between English clubs lives in a world of its own given the buying power of even smaller clubs thanks to the big sums of cash they get from TV deals ... and it's normal for good/very good players to reach evaluations that are considerably higher than they would have if it was two other european clubs involved in that deal ... hence the Mascherano+Tevez transfer to West Ham last year ;)

zeshkani

30-06-2007, 12:29

what you think about Baptista hi is beter then emerson hi could play 2-3 roles

zlatanov

30-06-2007, 12:32

']So Grimi went to Siena? Hahah, a walking disaster as I said back then.
honestly what did you expect Milan were buying Grimi for, a player with almost no experience in top football, back then other than keep him at Milanello for the rest of the year and then loan him out and/or use him in a deal for another player.
it's not like Real M did anything dif with that next-best-thing Marcello after all.
These players are young and can only get better but for that they need to play regularly and Milan or Real M is not the stage for them yet, and may very well never be.

zlatanov

30-06-2007, 12:36

what you think about Baptista hi is beter then emerson hi could play 2-3 roles
after a season like that at Arsenal, after RO, I doubt Milan would spend their non-EU player spot on him ...

mrki

30-06-2007, 12:49

Since when does someone have to be Brazilian to be valuable?

Im not sure how much you know about Bent beyond the price but the basic fact is he is a proven goalscorer in the EPL. He is an almost perfect parallel for Gilardino actually, except he cost less. The old Italian tradition of over paying for players i guess ;)

I didnt say someone needs to be Brazilian to be valuable, I was just refeering how unless Bent isnt some young prospect that I havent heard of and is really good, then he isnt worth of that money. Since most of that young prospects come from Brazil, I've said the word "brazilian". But never mind, you missunderstood my suggestion.

Bent may be a solid goalscorer in EPL, and im not saying that he is a bad player. But to compare 25 mil price of Bent now and 24 mil that Milan played back then for Gilardino who was absolutly a beast in front of a goal , scoring about 70 goals for Parma as age of 21 or 22, beying the best Italian young forward, is simply absurde. Gila, when Milan bought him, and Bent now, are simply two differenf football worlds.

And I wouldnt say Italian teams are overpaying the players, maybe inter, but hey, their name is "Internazionale". Milan and Juve are known as the teams that buy only the most proven and hardly ever overpriced players ( not saying that we never overpriced a player...).

Stezagud

30-06-2007, 13:00

Gila cost Milan 24 mil euros, so he is not more expensive

exchange rates have changed, Gila cost £17.2m at the time :cool:

as for Bent, he would probably have to score twice more goals in the EPL than he has to be compared to Gila - the goals bent has scored for ChA in his whole career there are what Gila was scoring for 1 season only at Parma

Gila hit 50 in 96 games for Parma, Bent managed 31 in 68 for Charlton, so there isnt much difference in the rate. One clear difference is that Gila had Morfeo supplying him, and Morfeo is 10 times the playmaker that any of Charltons players are.

- and in all fairness he is good player but is nowhere near 25 mil worth - considering the European market in general - let alone live up to the expectations the English press had for him and although he is still 23 or so, I don't think he ever will.

You're paying too much attention to the press figures. The fee is £16m in total and that includes various clauses. For Spurs to have to pay the full amount they would most likely have to win the league (or at the very least qualify for the CL proper) as well as have Bent top score for them and become an England regular achieving a certain amount of caps. If all of that is achieved then he was worth the money ;)

The real fee's Utd paid for Carrick and Hargreaves were nearer £10m than £18, and both Nani and Anderson deals were the same. Only if Utd dominate domestically and in the CL for 5 years and these players all stay that long will they then will cost the full fees, and again, if all that is achieved then they will have paid for themselves in prize money alone :D Another good example is Walcott who cost Arsenal £5m but the press figure was £12m :eek:

Anyways, people should realize that the English market for transfers between English clubs lives in a world of its own given the buying power of even smaller clubs thanks to the big sums of cash they get from TV deals ... and it's normal for good/very good players to reach evaluations that are considerably higher than they would have if it was two other european clubs involved in that deal ... hence the Mascherano+Tevez transfer to West Ham last year

Thats true, the smaller clubs can throw money around now and a proven EPL player is extremely valuable. Bent cost Charlton £2.5m despite being a regular scorer for the England youth sides and known to be a potential star. The reason he was so cheap is he hadnt proven himself in the EPL. A guy who scores 40 a year in Holland or France can fail in the EPL (Kezman, Morientes, Sheva :eek: etc ) but a guy who has already scored 20 a year for a relegated side can clearly handle the extra physical demands put on players here.

The extra money is coming in handy for a lot of sides too, for example 3 sides met Atletico's £25m demands for Torres, Liverpool, Inter and.........................Man City! :eek:

Stezagud

30-06-2007, 13:05

after a season like that at Arsenal, after RO, I doubt Milan would spend their non-EU player spot on him ...

agreed, i dont think i have ever seen a Brazilian with such bad basic skills as Baptista. His first touch tended to go further than a John Terry clearance! :eek:

He may be versatile but he doesnt fit into any particular role well, Milan tend to choose players who are considered specialists at one position at least.

Jim_UK

30-06-2007, 13:07

I seem to be one of the few who likes Cassano.

RO for Cassano+Emerson is a great deal.

i don't dislike Cassano as a player, just what he's become. Do we need his sulking and disruptiveness?

Cassano has something to offer, does Emerson? Is he better than Ze Roberto or Maresca? I'm not so sure. But those two for Oliveira is definately a good deal.

Ghost

30-06-2007, 13:20

agreed, i dont think i have ever seen a Brazilian with such bad basic skills as Baptista. His first touch tended to go further than a John Terry clearance! :eek:

He may be versatile but he doesnt fit into any particular role well, Milan tend to choose players who are considered specialists at one position at least.

It was pretty obvious that would happen, its hard to see any type of player who would adjust to the league perfectly. Many players from Spain end up failures in the EPL, however when they are sent back they end up scoring 20+ goals easy.

He even said it that playing in the Epl is more difficult, thats the reason I think he struggled.

Tony29.

30-06-2007, 13:22

agreed, i dont think i have ever seen a Brazilian with such bad basic skills as Baptista. His first touch tended to go further than a John Terry clearance! :eek:

:haha: :haha: :haha:

hwmook

30-06-2007, 13:23

hwmook

30-06-2007, 13:33

i don't dislike Cassano as a player, just what he's become. Do we need his sulking and disruptiveness?

Cassano has something to offer, does Emerson? Is he better than Ze Roberto or Maresca? I'm not so sure. But those two for Oliveira is definately a good deal.

I think we are taking a chance on cassano, trying to make him into a player he is supposed to be. Cassano is very talented as a footballer, he just need somebody to discipline him.

zlatanov

30-06-2007, 13:47

exchange rates have changed, Gila cost £17.2m at the time :cool:

well, exchange rates change, inflation changes i.e. money's worth changes - 24 mil euros 2-3 years ago isn't the same as 25 mil euros now.
Not to mention that transfer market changes as well - Chelski were offering 32 mil and even more for Gila, and how much do you think they would offer for Bent? ;)

Gila hit 50 in 96 games for Parma, Bent managed 31 in 68 for Charlton, so there isnt much difference in the rate. One clear difference is that Gila had Morfeo supplying him, and Morfeo is 10 times the playmaker that any of Charltons players are.
you are "cheating" here a bit :) - Gila's first season at parma was that of a reserve player and those 24 games in which he scored 4 goals were mostly games of 10-15 min of playing time for the guy, if that. The next season, he was reserve to Adriano for the first half of the season and became Parma's starting striker only after Adriano moved to Inter during the winter break - yet Gila scored 24 goals there.

So, taking off the 1st of his 3 seasons at Parma, and even counting the 2nd as a full season of him having a regular starting place, he scored 46 goals in 72 games for parma.

And he did that in Italy, most defensive league out there where players start a game thinking about defense and finish it thinking about ... catenaccio :D

As for Morfeo - you should tell him that cause he obviously doesn't know it himself ... and neither do the Parma fans of a team that was struggling to avoid relegation and did so thanks to Gila's 2 great season over there.
Morfeo is a good player but no reason to make him look like the second coming of Zidane just to prove a point :)

You're paying too much attention to the press figures. The fee is £16m in total and that includes various clauses. For Spurs to have to pay the full amount they would most likely have to win the league (or at the very least qualify for the CL proper) as well as have Bent top score for them and become an England regular achieving a certain amount of caps. If all of that is achieved then he was worth the money ;)
you probably know the details better as I couldn't bother where Bent has gone and for how much :D
btw, just curious - was that on the tottenham or charlton site or just an interpretation of a journalist ... things that we read every day and then the following they turn out not to be true?

The real fee's Utd paid for Carrick and Hargreaves were nearer £10m than £18, and both Nani and Anderson deals were the same. Only if Utd dominate domestically and in the CL for 5 years and these players all stay that long will they then will cost the full fees, and again, if all that is achieved then they will have paid for themselves in prize money alone
Steza, I think the argument was about English clubs overpaying on players when they were transfered from one EPL team to another i.e. the inner transfers market forthe EPL - Nani, Anderson, and Hargreaves are NOT such players.

anyways, I think you ManU fans are trying a bit too hard to make it look like a steal :)
I don't know about Spurs, as the EPL inner market is off the hooks of the minds of mainland europeans :D but Do you really believe bayern or Porto (with so many teams after Anderson and the market having barely started) would agree on a deal like that ... teams that know well the worth of their players and ask for BIG money for them and don't just hand in gifts left and right?

Also, ManU had to pay the buy-out clause for Nani to take him hence the speed with which the Nani and Anderson transers were done and dusted in less than a day - only a really big cash offer whitheout much "IFs and IF thats" can do that for players who are among the most sought after in Europe.

so I don't see how that would include those 5 years of EPl and CL domination you guys might be chatting about in ManU forums ... again, seriously guys, what serious club would agree to a deal like that for it's most prized asset?
What else is left - Porto and Sporting will still be receiving money for Anderson and Nani when those guys will be retiring already? :D

even if there were some clauses, and maybe there were, they would not make a vast differene in the amount Bayern, Porto, Sporting would receive in the end of the day - say, just an example, if the clauses were all enforced, they would get 25mil as opposed 22 in case they aren't.
Similarly, the clauses for RvN to Real transfer were of similar nature but ended up bringing 1M to ManU or so and all that for 1 year ... it's not like they would be getting 1M every year that he has left on his Real M contract.

Let's be a bit more realistic here - ManU made very good, maybe even great deals as it is but there is no reason to make it sound like they fooled everyone else - ManU gets good players but also pays good money for those players.

GilAttack [11]

30-06-2007, 14:08

honestly what did you expect Milan were buying Grimi for, a player with almost no experience in top football, back then other than keep him at Milanello for the rest of the year and then loan him out and/or use him in a deal for another player.
it's not like Real M did anything dif with that next-best-thing Marcello after all.
These players are young and can only get better but for that they need to play regularly and Milan or Real M is not the stage for them yet, and may very well never be.

But Marcelo was highly regarded as a young prospect, but when Milan bought Grimi a whole country was laughing at that. As I put back then, he had a zero chance of success here.
Obviously you can buy a top prospect and he could end up being a failure, but you cant say that Grimi was a good player at any time during his pro career.

Tony29.

30-06-2007, 14:11

Italians are overvaluing their own players more than anyone else in the world ( not counting the english )

So..... useless discussion by 2 boring members !

Edit : I know the name of the midfielder Milan will sign in next few days. I'll keep it as a secret for now :)

GilAttack [11]

30-06-2007, 14:13

mrki

30-06-2007, 14:14

Overvaluating players is partly a mafia game for money laundrin. I dont want to explain it all now, as I believe you know what im talking about.

zlatanov

30-06-2007, 14:19

Italians are overvaluing their own players more than anyone else in the world ( not counting the english )

So..... useless discussion by 2 boring members !

and why is a 3rd one making matters even worse? :rolleyes:
:grinser:

Edit : I know the name of the midfielder Milan will sign in next few days. I'll keep it as a secret for now :)
I knew that before you even opened the website or paper or another rumour post by mark77 to read about it ;)

zlatanov

30-06-2007, 14:23

']But Marcelo was highly regarded as a young prospect, but when Milan bought Grimi a whole country was laughing at that. As I put back then, he had a zero chance of success here.
Obviously you can buy a top prospect and he could end up being a failure, but you cant say that Grimi was a good player at any time during his pro career.
hence the dif in transfer fees ... and how long had Grimi's career been to make a good evaluation on how he would develop in say 3-4-5 years time?
Isn't that the whole point of development - get a player and make him better ... obviously Milan saw something in him and gambled on it because after all, if you consider all the excellent players out there - just as many of them were average at the start of their careers and developed into something good, as there are players who were hot prospect in the beginning but failed to live up to the hype later on.

GilAttack [11]

30-06-2007, 15:37

hence the dif in transfer fees ... and how long had Grimi's career been to make a good evaluation on how he would develop in say 3-4-5 years time?
Isn't that the whole point of development - get a player and make him better ... obviously Milan saw something in him and gambled on it because after all, if you consider all the excellent players out there - just as many of them were average at the start of their careers and developed into something good, as there are players who were hot prospect in the beginning but failed to live up to the hype later on.

Problem is that Milan never saw anything valuable in Grimi, it was just Berlusconi/Galliani being Berlusconi/Galliani. Some kind of favour or something like that.
Unless you really want to believe that Milan have the worst scouts in the world.

GilAttack [11]

30-06-2007, 15:40

Overvaluating players is partly a mafia game for money laundrin. I dont want to explain it all now, as I believe you know what im talking about.

It even happens between Milan and Inter, to make matters even worse.

Tony29.

30-06-2007, 15:43

all the excellent players out there - just as many of them were average at the start of their careers and developed into something good, as there are players who were hot prospect in the beginning but failed to live up to the hype later on.
Gianluca Zambrotta :5ok:
I and most of the other Juventini were clueless who this guy is (eventhough he played in the same league with Juve) , we were disapointed by him in his first matches and it was obvious he lacks the talent to become a good (maybe even average) right midfielder.
Then he was transfered at RB and look where he is now !

Milan didn't buy Grimi just like that. If whole Argentina was laughing at him then there's less than 0.1% chances that Galliani and Milan scouts weren't aware of that.
There's smthg none of us here know behind his transfer. Maybe an option on some other Racing player ?

Edit : Zlat, i know who is the midfielder ;)

Tony29.

30-06-2007, 15:46

Overvaluating players is partly a mafia game for money laundrin. I dont want to explain it all now, as I believe you know what im talking about.
I am not a Milanista or Interista.
I have no idea how overvaluating the players goes !
So, explain it for me :diablo:

this is for the post you wrote about Juve and Stuttgart :diablo:

GilAttack [11]

30-06-2007, 15:53

Gianluca Zambrotta :5ok:
I and most of the other Juventini were clueless who this guy is (eventhough he played in the same league with Juve) , we were disapointed by him in his first matches and it was obvious he lacks the talent to become a good (maybe even average) right midfielder.
Then he was transfered at RB and look where he is now !

Milan didn't buy Grimi just like that. If whole Argentina was laughing at him then there's less than 0.1% chances that Galliani and Milan scouts weren't aware of that.
There's smthg none of us here know behind his transfer. Maybe an option on some other Racing player ?

Edit : Zlat, i know who is the midfielder ;)

No, some kind of favour to an players' agent or something like that. Racing isnt known to have good/great players, although they recently sold Gonzalo Bergessio to Benfica, a nice player indeed.
Bottomline: There was something fishy going behind scenes, Milan never bought Grimi because of his soccer skills or potential.

hitmannq8

30-06-2007, 16:07

2 days ago our officials spoke officially about Pato, yesterday about Cassano, today about Adriano. All smoke screens IMO, they seem to be planning a surprise, I jus hope it aint someone like Vieri.

Those 3 names are indeed players I would love to come to Milan, but I think its all smoke screns. From those 3, I would chose Cassano, then Adriano then Pato but I wouldn't mind any of the three, they all seem to have the necessary characteristics we need and are indeed all young.

Cassano has the disadvantage of being the hot head who has failed repeatedly in the last 2-3 years in getting a starting spot. Adriano's disadvantage is his inconsistency in the last 2 years (but mind you, he's at Inter.. and seriously it does make a difference..i think he'll be more than fine at Milan).. Pato's disadvantage is his inexperience and age.. if i start talkin about the advantages about the three players i'll never finish.

Any of these Cassano or Adriano would work for me as the "superstar" signing we need. Pato should be bought just as an investment, dont need to bring him here in his first year, but just reserve him.

In other news, it seems that the Emerson rumours are back on. Whatever happened to all that Gourcuff getting more playing time talk? (but I do agree they have different roles and Emerson was necessary)

nefremo

30-06-2007, 16:20

Agree, although there is a possibility that we will get one of those 3, I still expect someone completely different. I still believe that it will be one of Ronaldinho or Eto'o even though they are saying that Barca won't sell.

If however we ARE getting one of Cassano, Adriano or Pato I would definately go for the Italian. He might be a hot-head but everyone seems to calm down at Milanello. Besides, he would be really cheap anyway and maybe we can even receive some $+Cassano for Oliveira.

One fear I have is Motta. I don't understand why we are initerested (suposedly according to every single web-site) in this guy. I would rather rely on Brocchi then Motta.

Blacktop

30-06-2007, 16:20

Are you sure Ronaldhinio does not want to come to Milan?? I read on goal.com that he may come. I think Berlu is trying to create a Brazilian type team. If he gets Adriano, Ronaldhinio and possibly Pato, combined with Cafu, Ronaldo, Dida and Kaka, we would have great chemistry, especially among the Brazillians.
It would be completely retarded to have so many Brazilians on the roster. Having a boatload of players of the same nationality doesn't automatically spell success on the pitch.

Brazil played like a group of individuals at the WC because too many egos wanted to be the man of the hour. It'll definitely happen here if our team looks like what's described above.

Blacktop

30-06-2007, 16:30

Landreau tops that list, as he is going to be amazing if he comes to milan
Is that a fact?

Giorgos

30-06-2007, 16:30

I don't want Cassano either, his character is too problematic. In contrast i think that Adriano may be reborned to our team. I was one of the people who wasn't worruing about our tranfers but now i started caring a lot about our slow movements. But i still hope we will make some good additions at leas at the end of the transfer market....

Blacktop

30-06-2007, 16:33

i think that Adriano may be reborned to our team.
Nah, I don't think so. After all, Ronaldo would be his new teammate. The party boy can stay at Inter.

Oh, and sorry for the double post.

Maurizio

30-06-2007, 16:34

Suazo would have been so ideal to have...

Blacktop

30-06-2007, 16:40

Well, we can't miss what we never had.

GilAttack [11]

30-06-2007, 16:55

Some players have to be in the right atmosphere to succeed, and I dont think thats a problem for Adriano. Meaning, he is the problem, not the environment (Inter). Milan wont change that. The change has to come from within, no doubt that if he would concentrate in playing soccer, he can be as good as anyone. Its all up to him.
Pato isnt a need for Milan. From an investment point of view, its fine. But he is a couple years away, at least, from being a capable & consistent contributor.
And Cassano....bleh, I dont want him. Maybe its just one of those deals that both teams get rid of some problem or someone unwilling to stay (See: Cassano and Ricardo Oliveira).

Giorgos

30-06-2007, 17:42

Pato agent in Milan

http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jun30j.html

The agent of teenage sensation Alexandre Pato is in Milan for talks with both San Siro clubs, although Chelsea also want the Brazilian.

Representative Gilmar Veloz flew in to Milan this morning for negotiations, as 17-year-old Pato has set the transfer market alight with his performances for Internacional.

He has already won the Copa Libertadores and FIFA World Club Championship and was a star of the Under-20 South American Championship, won by Brazil in January.

“Pato is a young player, very young, but we are not the only important club who like him,” noted Milan boss Carlo Ancelotti on Friday.

Inter are also preparing a firm £17m bid for what many have referred to as ‘the new Kaka’, but Chelsea are in the frame too.

Giorgos

30-06-2007, 17:45

Drogba, altro appello al Milan

http://www.sportal.it/news/news28550.html

Il colpo a sorpresa per l'attacco di Ancelotti ai tifosi del Milan, più che la stessa dirigenza rossonera, lo potrebbe riservare Didier Drogba. Il centravanti ivoriano infatti torna ad ammettere di considerare seriamente l'ipotesi di lasciare il Chelsea per fare un'esperienza in un altro club europeo di primo piano. E chi meglio dei campioni d'Europa accontenterebbe il bomber dei Blues?.

Già a inizio giugno, il 12 per la precisione, in una chiacchierata con la stampa della capitale inglese, l'idolo del pubblico di Stamford Bridge si era lasciato andare: "Mi trovo a un bivio, a ventinove anni è giunta l'ora di fare l'ultima scelta importante". Alla base delle dichiarazioni rilasciate un'insofferenza mai nascosta ai matrimoni a lunga scadenza: "Non mi piace la routine, in quanto ho bisogno di sentirmi sempre sul filo del rasoio. Anche per questo l'arrivo di Shevchenko mi ha fatto bene, amo la competizione".

Tra le mete preferite per un eventuale post-Londra, allora il giocatore era stato chiaro: "Mi piacerebbe l'Italia, il Milan in particolare, ma anche la Spagna e il Barcellona". Ora la punta di Mourinho ribadisce: "Ho sempre lavorato duro e vorrei vincere la Champions League con il Chelsea ma, per ora, non posso che dire di aspettare e vedere: sono all'ultima svolta importante della mia carriera. E' arrivato il momento della grande scelta finale. Dovrei restare o andare via?. Sono tentato dall'idea di andare a scoprire un mondo diverso e vedere come è il calcio fuori dall'Inghilterra". Il Barça intanto ha preso Henry, suo rivale in tanti derby di Londra con la maglia dell'Arsenal, il campo delle posisbili nuove sistemazioni, quindi, per Didier si riduce ulteriormente.

Giorgos

30-06-2007, 17:48

In Brief:

The blow to surprise for the attack of Ancelotti to the tifosi of the Milan, more than the same rossonera leadership, it could reserve Didier Drogba. The centravanti ivoriano in fact return to admit to consider the hypothesis seriously to leave the Chelsea in order to make a experience in an other European club of Association of Bologna. And who best of the champions of Europe would please the bomber of the Blues. Already to beginning june, the 12 for the precision, in a chat with the press of the English understood one them, the idolo of the public of Stamford Bridge had let to go: "I find myself to a crossroad, to ventinove years is reached the hour to make the last choice important". To the base of the rilasciate declarations an intolerance never hidden to the weddings to long expiration: "it does not appeal to the ruotine to me, in how much I have need to always feel to me on the thread of the shaver. Also for this the arrival of Shevchenko has done good me, loves the competition ". Between the preferred goals for an eventual post-London, then the player had been clear: "he would appeal to Italy to Me, the Milan in particular, but also Spain and Barcelona". Hour the tip of Mourinho ribadisce: "I have always worked hard and I would want to gain the Champions League with the Chelsea but, for hour, I cannot that to say to wait for and to see: to last they are carried out the important one of my career. Arrived E' the moment of the great final choice. I would have to remain or to go via. They are tried from the idea to go to discover a various world and to see like is soccer outside from England ". The Barça while has taken Henry, its avails again in many derby of London with the mesh of the Arsenal, the field of the new posisbili sistemazioni, therefore, for Didier it is reduced ulteriorly.

Samuca

30-06-2007, 17:58

It would be completely retarded to have so many Brazilians on the roster. Having a boatload of players of the same nationality doesn't automatically spell success on the pitch.

Brazil played like a group of individuals at the WC because too many egos wanted to be the man of the hour. It'll definitely happen here if our team looks like what's described above.

That brazilian ideas are all rubbish, many brazilians don´t mean that the team will play good or bad

In WC Brazil had the worse coach of the competition, Parreira doesn´t know how to make a good team spirit like Ancelotti do

Retarded would be to hire Ronaldinho, he is make lot of useless moves and never come back to mark. I still don´t beliving that Milan want a player like this. For me, those news about Ronaldinho are all rubbish and will keep being till someone show me a video of Galliani saying "I want Ronaldinho and will do everything to hire he because he lives in my heart"

There are brazilian players that could be good to Milan but Ronaldinho isn´t one of them

Hasan Rossonero

30-06-2007, 18:20

zlatanov

30-06-2007, 19:44

Hey thanks!

I just read the gazzetta from last night! Che bello!

It was free. I didn't have to pay anything because that was the only paper I picked.
hey Hasan,
I tried it too but can only read the first page of gazzetta (with Adriano on the main page) and when I try to read the others (I chose an older edition from the drop menu above), I was still asked to subscribe/log in :str:
ANy help with that? How did you manage to read it all?

And Thanks, Maltese C., for the heads up :5ok:

Hasan Rossonero

30-06-2007, 20:11

hey Hasan,
I tried it too but can only read the first page of gazzetta (with Adriano on the main page) and when I try to read the others (I chose an older edition from the drop menu above), I was still asked to subscribe/log in :str:
ANy help with that? How did you manage to read it all?

And Thanks, Maltese C., for the heads up :5ok:

I'll pm you.

Rando

30-06-2007, 20:49

i cant believe ancelotti said we dont need to buy midfielder. we really need to buy at least one midfielder. we only have 7 midfielders in the squad and so often we play using 5 midfielders on the field! we definitely do not need to buy defenders as we have 11 of them unless if at least 2 are leaving.

GilAttack [11]

30-06-2007, 21:02

Nordahl

01-07-2007, 01:35

Oh my, Emerson is AWFUL... :(

BTW: I fully agree with Samuca... I'm also from Brazil, but I'm sick and tired with that 'Brazilmania'.

Giorgos

01-07-2007, 02:53

Oh my, Emerson is AWFUL... :(

BTW: I fully agree with Samuca... I'm also from Brazil, but I'm sick and tired with that 'Brazilmania'.

Nordahl i tottally agree with you, Emerson seems being bored, In Real this year was more than awful.... :mad:

marcovb

01-07-2007, 04:57

Maltese Charlie

01-07-2007, 05:53

Same problem here
I can only read the first page

What you have to do to read the all paper?

Very simple!!!!!! Just sign in.... :grinser:

In my opinion it is worth it. For less than 10 USD, you can read all the pages every day for 1 month. (but to be honest, I do not know exactly for how long the subscribtion is.)

From my experience for a period of over 1 year till now I had to pay 3 times. With my first fee paid, the subscribtion lasts for a very long period (between 6 - 8 months) The second time lasts after 2 months, and the last is still active.

(I hope that tomorrow I do not need to pay again. :grinser: )

Hasan Rossonero

01-07-2007, 06:20

@marcovb

I just created an account, and I have been able to read the entire Gazzetta--for free. You must create an account. Then add Gazzetta as your newspaper.

mrki

01-07-2007, 07:31

CLAMOROSO AS, KAKA' AL MILAN: "DATEMI IL REAL"
MADRID (Spagna) - Clamorosa rivelazione del quotidiano iberico As: Kakà avrebbe chiesto al Milan di essere ceduto al Real. Queste le parole esatte del fantasista brasiliano riportare dal giornale sportivo:
"Presidente, ho vinto tutto con la maglia del Milan. Ho dato e ricevuto tanto da questa maglia, ora però mi chiama il Real Madrid e voglio accettare questa sfida. Decida lei, le chiedo però almeno di ascoltarli".
Il quotidiano spagnolo racconta di un colloquio tra i dirigenti rossoneri e il Campione d'Europa prima di partire per le vacanze a New York. Kakà avrebbe quindi espresso il suo desiderio di voler giocare in Spagna, non mettendo però il Milan alle strette che per il momento è libero di decidere se venderlo o meno.
Dopo i titoli di As di questo periodo sul trasferimento del brasiliano a Madrid, i blitz in casa Kakà dei dirigenti spagnoli e le dichiarazioni di Calderon che non si era mai arreso anche di fronte i fermi 'No' di Galliani in merito alla cessione di Kakà, potrebbe coronarsi il sogno del numero uno madridista. Naturalmente già pronti sul piatto gli 80 mln di euro.

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again...

Hasan Rossonero

01-07-2007, 07:34

NO RUSH OR FEAR
6/30/2007 7:19:00 PM
President Silvio Berlusconi has put the Milan fans at ease by stating that the club have time to sign a really top player

President Silvio Berlusconi has been speaking about the transfer market and the arrival of a top player. He said: 'Shevchenko is always in first place for me but Abramovich asks for too much. Shevchenko would have no problems returning and would be the ideal player to play alongside Ronaldo. Then there is Ronaldinho but I know it is an impossible dream because the Barcelona president is elected by the club members and he's said he couldn't remain in Spain. Eto'o is also difficult as there is a different fiscal situation in Spain which allows players there to have much more than ours.'

On Adriano and Cassano: 'I have always like Adriano a lot and we would get on with all the Brazilians at Milan. I would only come to agreement with Inter if there were no problems. I don't know Cassano as a person but he's very talented. We have never had any problems at Milan with anyone.'

Kakà situation: 'This story is tiring and we are fed up with Real Madrid. Kakà will not leave.'

On the defence: The heir to Maldini? We will find a young defender as we found Kakà in attack. Cannavaro? He was a youngster in the years of Costacurta and Maldini but we will be pointing to a youngster.'

On Gourcuff: 'We believe in this youngster, he could become the new Zidane. We were very interested in Emerson but his arrival could hold Gourcuff back.'

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from acmilan.com

Ghost

01-07-2007, 07:37

Malouda wants to join Chelsea, Drogba insisted he wants to remain in Chelsea now and it looks like Inter may win in the race for Pato as they are putting up 25 Million Euros on him, for this type of money for an unproven player they should be welcome to him.

This is going to be a looong summer.

mrki

01-07-2007, 07:39

Hasan Rossonero

01-07-2007, 07:49

Dont you guys think that this wage policy that we have will not last any longer? I mean, a lot of players turned down Milan just for money and im sure Kaka' doesnt feel indifferent to the numbers given to him from Madrid. What Galliani is saying means this: " yes, we'll buy only free or cheap players with wages not bigger that 5 mil per season..." Who can we get real stars then??
5 million is not our wage cap. Only Real are REPORTEDLY offering 10 million. No other club does that. The highest paid player in the world is Ronaldinho-- 8 million.

Sheva earned 6.5 before he left. We offer competitive wages. Henry earns 6 million at Barca, and Messi earns 4.

mrki

01-07-2007, 08:01

Carlo was in the stands yesterday to see Pato against Poland in world cup U21. Brazil lost 0-1, and Pato didnt shine at all....

ACMILAN1983

01-07-2007, 08:11

Berlu's comments on Gourcuff caught my eye the most today. It's brought mixed reactions to me, as I'm very pleased to see them placing their trust in him, but at the same time I feel it's necessary to add a more physical defensive midfielder in the squad (someone with similar qualities to Ambro).

My hope is that even if we don't add someone like Emerson who would be fighting for a first team spot, we can add someone with these qualities that can play a Brocchi like role in the squad just to add depth. However, my real hope is Gourcuff can really step up next season. Last season he's been brought in and impressed greatly, but essentially wasn't ready to play on a regular basis. However, I think now is his time to start making a mark in the side.

Also, it seems Digao will be joining the squad in the new season, hopefully a good choice and obviously the replacement for Billy in the squad.

Considering these factors, I'm still hoping for 3 transfers this summer. The first is obviously a new forward, though for me Ronaldo is essentially going to be like a new superstar signing for us next season, even more than what he was for us this season. Pato is talked about a lot, but he is not someone I think we'd sign for a spot in the squad, but rather a long term investment. Nor do I think he's ready for us.

The second is a midfielder as mentioned. It doesn't have to be someone too great, but someone to add depth to our squad. Emerson could still be bought, as he seems available (though I'd avoid dealing with Real).

Finally, I'm still hoping for a new LB. This for me is as important as any other signing we need to make. I really can't say I trust Janku in LB, and feel we should make this area a priority. Zambrotta in this respect would be a dream for me, and could be available after Abidal went Barca and he's not settled too well there.

Arildonardo

01-07-2007, 08:16

Zambrotta should be available now that Barcelona have got Abidal.

I want Chivu in our squad as Roma seem to have accepted to sell him at the right price:
http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jul1g.html

...and I can't believe a player like Torres is on his way to Liverpool...

marcovb

01-07-2007, 08:26

@marcovb

I just created an account, and I have been able to read the entire Gazzetta--for free. You must create an account. Then add Gazzetta as your newspaper.

Ok thanks

and thanks Maltese Charlie for your info

I hope i'll find more news from the newspaper than i do from their site

marcovb

01-07-2007, 08:34

Zambrotta will probably play as a RB and Abidal as a LB
Barcelona probably will sell Beletti

I also think that Chivu would be perfect for us but somehow it doesn't seem to interest Galliani
He looks for a young defender

Cigarini goes to Fiorentina as part of the Reginaldo deal?
I thought Milan will buy him

zlatanov

01-07-2007, 08:50

Ok thanks

and thanks Maltese Charlie for your info

I hope i'll find more news from the newspaper than i do from their site
as Hasan said, simply creating a FREE account would allow you to read old editions of Gazzetta, however, I think you will be able to read up to 7 such editions for free.
every time you chose to open a page other than the front one, of any edition of any paper, you are asked to confirm your choice and the count of the free editions left on your account decrease by one - 7,6,5 ... and so on

at least that's how I think it works.

atreides602

01-07-2007, 08:58

are we realy not making any move toward Chivu, or this silance should tell us something?

zlatanov

01-07-2007, 09:07

are we realy not making any move toward Chivu, or this silance should tell us something?
all it tells me so far is that Milan are one pathetic excuse for a club :grinser:

I would guess it's Chivu's injury problems over the years that are steering Milan away from him because he is a player who would solve two problems at once for us - CD and LB.

atreides602

01-07-2007, 09:13

It will really be a 'coupe du grace' (pardon my french) stilling him under the G8 of futball nosses , after the frustration of last 2 mercatos; also i will never think bad ever again about Galliani.

K77SH C

01-07-2007, 09:23

he is a player who would solve two problems at once for us - CD and LB.

At the same time :devf: The injury reason is the only one I can imagine as he and Milan seemed destined for each other even from his Ajax days.

zlatanov

01-07-2007, 10:28

http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jul1i.html

Milan: Sheva can quit Chelsea
Sunday 1 July, 2007

Milan are waiting for Andriy Shevchenko to demand a transfer from Chelsea. “He knows what to do,” :bri: :grinser: said Adriano Galliani.

“I speak to Sheva often. He knows what he has to do,” the Vice-President told ‘Il Giornale’ newspaper.

Patron Silvio Berlusconi and Coach Carlo Ancelotti have also publicly stated that the Ukrainian is more than welcome to return to the San Siro just 12 months after his £30m move.

It is reported that Chelsea have rejected a loan deal and that Milan consider £15m to be too much to buy back the Balon d’Or winner.

Other candidates for the club include Antonio Cassano of Real Madrid and Inter’s unsettled hitman Adriano.

“Is Cassano a real target or a bluff? You decide,” added Galliani. “We have signed four players from Inter. Andrea Pirlo and Clarence Seedorf are still first team players, Dario Simic and Christian Brocchi just behind, while the ex-Rossoneri we sent to Appiano Gentile are long gone.

“After these precedents, I doubt Massimo Moratti would hand us his Press Officer, let alone Adriano!” :grinser: :grinser: :grinser:

Milan had said they would bring back Massimo Donati, but instead sold him to Celtic for £3m, so will there be a major midfield acquisition?

“We will sign one player, certainly. We think that the entire squad is covered and too much competition would only create problems.

“For example, look at Emerson. Who would he push out of the side? I doubt Gennaro Gattuso and Pirlo, perhaps Massimo Ambrosini or Seedorf, certainly Yoann Gourcuff, who would be sent to the stands. We prefer to defend Gourcuff.”

Some sections of the media consider this pared down transfer campaign to be a sign of weakness for the European Champions.

“It is the Press who cannot free themselves of these silly clichés even after 20 years of great success. The fans understand how we operate and responded with 27,000 season ticket sales.

“Our victories and ability to climb back up after a fall are all thanks to the rapport between the Coach, the club and the players. We have an airbag compared to other sides and that is created by our consistency.”

This includes keeping hold of Kaka, who has once again been linked with Real Madrid in Spanish newspaper ‘As.’

Today’s edition insists that the Brazilian held a meeting with President Berlusconi to demand a transfer, having “won everything with the Milan jersey.”

As the Rossoneri have already released a couple of statements over the summer slamming ‘As’ for its continued “harassment” of Kaka, this is bound to create further tension.

mrki

01-07-2007, 10:40

hahahaha! Nice words from Galliani... At least he is good at that :)

I've just seen an interwiew with Berlusconi on TG24 and in short...
1. no.1 target is Sheva but only if russian mafia from S.Bridge decides to sell him at lower cost...
2. Second is Ronaldinho
3. 3rd is Eto'o...
4. And as Galliani said, buying Emerson would send Gourcuff to stands and in Milanello they want to let the man play this year...
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I've also heard some great words for Renato but I've never seen him play. So I searched on youtube a bit... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzxD5MAuetc&mode=related&search= Look at this and you'll see that Zlatanov described him pretty nicely! A mix of Kaka' and Rivaldo, especially some Rivaldo moves can be seen in there. His built is impressive for 19 years old.. Maybe he could be a man Carlo decides to go for, why not, I would be nice.

Tony29.

01-07-2007, 10:58

Renato Augusto ? :rolleyes:
Lyon made an offer for this kid few weeks ago.
I think it's the same Renato

Edit : It's the same kid. Here's how Globe Sports rates the potential stars of the u-20 tournament
http://www.juventuz.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1394297&postcount=1

marcovb

01-07-2007, 11:07

Tony29.

01-07-2007, 11:14

I don't know if it is a good film or he constantly plays like that but i think Milan should buy him
If his price before the tournament was $20m (€15m , 10m GBP) then i guess he plays some good matches with Flamengo in Brazil

marcovb

01-07-2007, 11:22

From all this young players only one or two are taken by italian clubs
What are italian scouts doing

It's geting harder to buy a 25-29 years old player with today wages
They should try to buy them when they are young even if it is risky to loose them later

Jim_UK

01-07-2007, 11:33

I would guess it's Chivu's injury problems over the years that are steering Milan away from him because he is a player who would solve two problems at once for us - CD and LB.

I can only see him causing us more worrisome moments at LB, he's not good enough to play there unless the situation is so dire it calls for desperation.

Shevchenko being welcomed back would just be a step backwards for me, i can't believe how desperate we are to sign him. He moved on, so should we.

marcovb

01-07-2007, 11:35

If his price before the tournament was $20m (€15m , 10m GBP) then i guess he plays some good matches with Flamengo in Brazil

Since 1998 he played 135 matches and scored 43 goals
What does he play exactly?
He is an offensive midfielder or a striker?

Tony29.

01-07-2007, 11:40

Since 1998 he played 135 matches and scored 43 goals
What does he play exactly?
He is an offensive midfielder or a striker?
In 1998 he was 10 years old so i don't know how to look at these statistics.
He is a midfielder, the creative force of the team, not a striker.

If we can trust Wikipedia, €10m offer came from Lyon and he previously rejected the English giants (ManUtd, Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea) because he wants to stay in Flamengo.
His buyout clause is €30m

Here you can find a nice article and video
http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/a-name-to-remember-renato-augusto.html

Giorgos

01-07-2007, 11:48

You know that Lampard denied to extend his contract with Chelsea?

Tony29.

01-07-2007, 11:52

You know that Lampard denied to extend his contract with Chelsea?
We surely do :w262:

Ghost

01-07-2007, 11:55

I think if fat frank was to leave Chelsea he would go to Barca, its the wife - you should always blame the wife/girlfriend.

ginoformaggino

01-07-2007, 11:57

I've never heard of Renato until now
This is the first time i see him play and i have to say that they should forget of Ronaldinho, Eto, Pato.....

I don't know if it is a good film or he constantly plays like that but i think Milan should buy him

http://www.milanmania.com/forums/showthread.php?p=431305#post431305

if I should choose now I would value much more over him than Pato, also thinking to the money they want in Porto Alegre
at that time, there was Man Utd overe him, then they chose Anderson = a really great move

mrki

01-07-2007, 12:32

Cassano, Renato(non eu spot),Grosso and Motta and we are ready to go. Brocchi to Torino. New plan!! :) :)

Tony29.

01-07-2007, 12:36

Cassano, Renato(non eu spot),Grosso and Motta and we are ready to go. Brocchi to Torino. New plan!! :) :)
Why everytime you say You're ready to go, you have different players listed :rolleyes:

:diablo:

mrki

01-07-2007, 12:41

Becouse they are all great plans to go! :)

ThrusT

01-07-2007, 12:51

Cassano, Renato(non eu spot),Grosso and Motta and we are ready to go. Brocchi to Torino. New plan!! :) :)
Leave Brocchi :d55:
Motta is keen on an EPL move.
Grosso is being followed by Lyon. http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jul1l.html
I can agree with Cassano and Renato though. :zany:

Grtz

rosoneri_11

01-07-2007, 13:00

How about Rafael Marquez? He would be a very good centerback for us? He is very good.

drucurl

01-07-2007, 13:02

Pleeeeeeeease no Cassano...it is too huge a gamble IMO.....what is he going t do? Come to Milan and turn into Baggio???

We lost out on Torres :( to Liverpool OMG that is so pathetic...people knock Torres all the time here but even if he's less talented than cASSano (debatable), at least he's a proven hard worker, a captain of the team he plays in AND is younger than Cassano AND Gila...

The other thing is unless your name happens to be either Kaka or Seedorf Ancelotti has no problems benching your a$$...I wonder how kindly cASSano would take to that :wallbang:

My suggestion is Sergio Aguero. He is going to be better than Messi (I'm not saying "mark my words people of MM" because it's just a g*t feeling (take that Zlat) from watching him play) the ONLY PROBLEM IS THAT HE's ARGENTINE and the Brazilians mightn't tret him too well :eekani:

Kaka1899

01-07-2007, 13:03

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=341132

Source Goal.com
According to Spanish daily sports newspaper "As" Kaká has asked president Berlusconi to evaluate offers by Real Madrid for him.

"President, I have won everything with the Milan jersey. I've given and received a lot from this shirt, but now Real Madrid are calling and I want to accept this challenge. You decide, but I ask you to at least listen to their proposal."

There are the words of Ricardo Izecson dos Santos Leite, known better as Kaká, or at least this is what has been reported on today's edition of Spanish sports paper "AS" and if these quotes are true they certainly don't leave much room for misunderstandings.

According to the Spanish daily the Brazilian superstar contacted Berlusconi just before leaving for vacation to New York to tell him about his willingness to wear the Merengue shirt, leaving the eventual decision regarding his future to the President.

Allegedly the Spanish champions are willing to give up 80 million euros to the European champions for their crown jewel. The headlines of "As" state it clearly: "Kaká asks to go to Real Madrid". When will Milan's answer come?

im starting to get nervous now guys what if this is true?

_MaJi_tz

01-07-2007, 13:04

How about Rafael Marquez? He would be a very good centerback for us? He is very good.

Yesss very true and he can play Dm too :5ok:
If Barca get Chivu than I think Rafael is free to go...... :bri:

Kaka1899

01-07-2007, 13:08

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=340880

According to the 'Corriere dello Sport', the Nerazzurri are focusing their attention on the new rising star of Brazil.

Alexandre Pato has become the main target of Inter according to the Italian daily sports newspaper 'Corriere dello Sport' after the player's agent, Gilmar Veloz, was spotted in Milan.

Apparently Inter have joined the race to sign the Brazilian striker and will be battling it out against Chelsea and Milan, even though the Rossoneri seem to have lost a bit of their initial interest in the player since they are not ready to spend more than 12 million Euros.

On the other hand, Inter are ready to fork out 25 million Euros, even though the Brazilian player has a release clause of 15 million Euros.

Pato is currently playing with the Brazilian national side in the Under 20 World Cup being held in Canada, but the South American side disappointed in their first match as they were defeated by Poland.

His agent is currently in Milan, to speak with the Nerazzurri and the Rossoneri bosses.

we help Inter out by letting them have Suazo and the Merda does this to us. such a scummy team :(