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You do have a point when you say none of the Barcelona stars will accept the bench but you're missing another thing here.... who says one of them will have to stay on the bench regularly ?
Every one of them can play 3 out of 4 matches and enter as a sub in the 4th match.
Just think about it....there are ~55 matches per season for a team like Barcelona. If every one of them plays 3 matches in a row and gets a rest in the 4th match then they'll play ~40 matches per season. All of them will be well rested this way and they won't be tired in April-May, plus they'll still get to start 75% of the matches, which is even normally a maximum, or close to the maximum matches they play every year .
In one match you'll have Messi-Dinho-Eto'o in the second match Messi-Dinho-Henry, in the third Messi-Eto'o-Henry and in the 4th match Dinho-Eto'o-Henry...perfect example for a squad rotation. Just imagine Kaka, Gattuso, Pirlo, Ronaldo, Nesta being rested in every 4th match and still a great replacement to take over their place while they are resting. It would be perfect for Milan.
Not to mention some eventual injury of one of them. Barcelona won't even feel it because they'll have a megastar to replace the injured one.
Financially it's also good for Barcelona. They got rid of the wages Giuly and Saviola were getting and they'll use these money to cover Henry's wages. It's no sacrifice at all.
If you think about it it's perfect. You have 4 stars to fill 3 positions and still you keep all of them happy and well rested. Perfect scenario !
Of course, it's not as perfect as i made it to look :)
It's not a problem for Messi-Dinho and Eto'o, but this could be a huge problem for Henry. He's changing the country, the league and this way he'll have to change his partners in attack in every match. He'll never have the same 2 partners in attack match after match !
And as GilAttack says, the important matches could be a problem...who'll sit on the bench then ? Or maybe they'll rotate them in the important matches also. There'll be plenty of those in La Liga and CL.
I don't know what could happen. Getting rid of Giuly and Saviola could really mean that Barcelona really wants to keep all the stars in attack and maybe they think the same way i do about making all 4 of them function in the same team.
sorry to barge in. but i think there's too much rotation. this will result in poor consistency.
beside, i doubt they can maintain the rotation system as it is. maybe it'll be fine earlier on, but sooner i can sense trouble in it. just imagine, let say 'Messi-Dinho-Henry' produce better result, let say they score 2-3 goals in a single match and 'Messi-Dinho-Eto'o' score fewer, like 1-2 goals in a match, the coach will always has the tendency to use the formation that will give better result. even if they don't, we can't forget about their fans. the fans reaction can bring problems to the management.
but, either way, i'm pretty sure Barca would like to experience it first, maybe they'll sell one of their stars next season but very unlikely it'll be this summer. you'll never know unless you try it.
humanTORCH
17-07-2007, 02:42
they still ahve another midfielder who a starter for barcelona by the name of Deco. I doubt he would want to warm the bench after all these while. one of them will be shown the door to accomodate henry but i might be wrong.
Gabriel489
17-07-2007, 04:34
Ideally speaking, having a superstars rotation is great, and I doubt anyone of them would have problems if the team is winning.
Remember a few yrs ago when when Pippo was on fire and Sheva accepted the bench role. Thats only happened b/c Milan is winning so Sheva could not complain. However, once the team struggles a little, hell will break lose.
yup.. but the problem is barcelona is dealing with players with such high ego. who think they're the superstar of world football these day. they want people to see them playing. they're playing not just to win but to get attention too. so even if the team is winning but they're not playing, they won't be happy about it.
sheva is different, he know what milan had given him so he doesn't complaint much.
just my opinion tho..
Baptista???!!! We're they not watching his season at Arsenal? Unless he suddenly returns to the Baptista of Sevilla or he's available for 5 million euros, then we should stay well clear of him.
I'd prefer this 6th option to be Robinho like Dev said. Tevez is a pipe dream, he's already licking Ferguson's backside so i doubt we'll see him with us. Robinho will give us a good mix of skill and attacking ability, like Cassano would but without the mental problems.
Graeme C
17-07-2007, 05:34
Today's Gazzetta seems to be certain that the 6th name was Tevez. It is, however, a very small possibility as United have pretty much wrapped up the transfer. Gazzetta seems to believe that the transfer which is closest to Milan current is that of Quagliarella. The player is an option that would not rule out any of the non-EU options.
So the door would still be open for Pato to come in 2008.
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It does seem that Gazzetta is jumping around with names, but Quagliarella is apparently very well liked by Ancelotti. I would be very happy if he came.
yeah me 2 man, he is wicked. I wonder aswell if Sacchi has infact been pushing Milan to try and get him.
Gabriel489
17-07-2007, 05:57
I really wish today is Sept 1, 2007, that way we can all discuss Milan's signing instead of guessing
hishamilan
17-07-2007, 06:07
guys sorry for disappearing "exams" i am so ashamed of myself as i can no more argue any other team fan cause l'pool buyern man u real are all shocking the mercato while the CL winner is standing still no matter what galliani said we must not buy 1 player only i think we missed up on many players till now " barusso metzelder pepe suazo tiago toni ribery abidal "
i think we must buy:
1) either chivu or g.milito(heinze)
2) either lucho gonzalez(rosina) or ivanchitz(montolivo)
3) we must buy some utility player like zambrotta
4) if i can choose from galliani's list i choose < etoo then r10 then tevez"6th">
5) since all players in the world were sold we must play smart either through promoting more youth or through buying some players whose places could be lost next year like : kuyt cannavaro santacruz r10 robben
hishamilan
17-07-2007, 06:30
i am sorry paolo but where do mexican reports claim castillo will go ? he is great
i'll say again, forget r10 :)
barca will rotate them, like rijkaard always rotates players. Its a question about how the atmosphere in the dressing room will look like (henry the crybaby), but theres no other option with frank in charge. Tony29 has right. The only way we may get him is to splash the cash big time and soon.
Maltese Charlie
17-07-2007, 06:47
I really wish today is Sept 1, 2007, that way we can all discuss Milan's signing instead of guessing
Not like me, I really wish today is Sept 1, 1979. Oh my God, I'm 20 again!! What a dream. :grinser: :grinser:
hishamilan
17-07-2007, 07:06
what about names above , zlat? AC Milan to make Eto'o offer
First Published: Jul 17, 2007
Barcelona's Samuel Eto'o controls the ball during a Spanish league match against Atletico de Madrid, at the Vicente Calderon stadium in Madrid, May 2007. European champions AC Milan are to make a bid for Eto'o.
European champions AC Milan are to make a bid for Barcelona's Cameroon international striker Samuel Eto'o, Marca sports daily reported on Tuesday.
"A Milan emissary is due to go to Barca's Nou Camp offices in the next few days with a cheque in his hand," Marca indicated, adding the offer could resolve Barca's headache of how to play Eto'o alongside new signing Thierry Henry in an attack also containing Leo Messi and Ronaldinho.
Milan have been pondering a raid on Barca over the summer, with club administrator delegate Adriano Galliani trying to arrange the signing of Ronaldinho in a swap deal for fellow Brazilian Kaka.
With Kaka, also a Real Madrid target, staying put, Eto'o is now top of the list of desired new names for the "rossoneri".
Galliani is on record as saying that the Italians are determined to land a "great champion" and named his top five as Eto'o, Ronaldinho, Chelsea's Didier Drogba and his clubmate and former Milan star Andrei Shevchenko, as well as Alexandre Pato of Brazilian side Porto Alegre.
Barcelona chairman Joan Laporta insisted on June 19 that Dutch coach Frank Rijkaard, Ronaldinho and Eto'o, who together landed the 2006 Champions League, would stay with the Catalan club despite a barren season and then the arrival of Henry from Arsenal.
Former Barca coach Johan Cruyff said earlier this month he believed there was no room for Henry, Eto'o, Ronaldinho and Messi on the pitch at the same time.
Julio Batista looks more like a panzer tank than like a footballer, come on, I'm sure we'll not sign him... on the other hand, Quagliarella would be a great addition, the guy really kicks ass... and strategically speakin', that means a free non-EU spot to us, which hopefully will be filled by Pato.
hishamilan
17-07-2007, 08:15
giorgos ! do you know whether paok will keep hold of the re-called amir azmy or not by the way ajax are buying shikabala and them loaning him till army matter is sorted
hany.Egypt
17-07-2007, 08:17
watching the copa america final last night, I think Julio Baptista should fit in our offense, I dont think he is that expensive
playing a good game from time to time is not enough to be a Milan player. IMO Baptista is not good option for Milan, I hope he wont join us
Ancelotti: ,"(to berlu) i'd like to get sammy eto'o sir."
Berlu: carlo i like my strikers the way i like my coffee....brazilian :haha:
Milan have been pondering a raid on Barca over the summer, with club administrator delegate Adriano Galliani trying to arrange the signing of Ronaldinho in a swap deal for fellow Brazilian Kaka.
This is bs from Marca. I bet my both hands there was no such offer comming from Galliani.
I also think Marca is wrong about the money Milan is willing to offer for Eto'o - 42m Euro. It's simply too much for someone who missed 5 months of last season because of some serious knee problems. 30m euro is more than enough for Eto'o.
Graeme C
17-07-2007, 08:33
i think there is a gamble with eto and ronaldinho, if they dont get there Eu spot before august 31st.
This is why i think milan is leaning towards Quagliarella who could cost us arround 15 mill euros and will let us have the free spot for Pato in january.
playing a good game from time to time is not enough to be a Milan player. IMO Baptista is not good option for Milan, I hope he wont join us
Fully agree... the guy is weird, more suited to be a heavy weight boxeur than a footballer... and his playing is rather clumsy, slow and definitelly uninspired.
Hasan Rossonero
17-07-2007, 09:32
Transfer market consultant Bronzetti doesn't believe Barcelona will sell Eto'o.
www.gazzetta.it
Udinese will not sell Quagliarella.
www.calciomercato.com
Graeme C
17-07-2007, 10:20
Transfer market consultant Bronzetti doesn't believe Barcelona will sell Eto'o.
www.gazzetta.it
Udinese will not sell Quagliarella.
www.calciomercato.com
yeah i dont think Barca will either, interesting about Quagliarella.
I think the calciomercato thread was about the players agent thinking udinese wouldnt sell him. However they have already got Di Natale, Floro Flores, Paolucci, Asamoah, and Pepe (what the gazzetta article said this morning), and if the offer was high enough could be tempted in selling him.
Udinese always sell if the price is right, that is their policy.
MILAN - Yesterday evening Mauro Tassotti, assistant coach of the Rossoneri, talked to "Studio Milan Lunedí". This is what he said:
The vacations are about to finish, it's almost time for the reunion, how is the team getting there? "Very well, we've had long and well-deserved vacations. Now it's time to restart again, in a week, I'd say we are ready. I know the lads are already working, with our coaches. Our lads are very professional and I think they will be ready."
As far as the transfer campaign is concerned: will there be some new faces at the reunion? "I don't know, I only know what everyone knows, which is that someone will arrive. There is still a bit of time, a striker will arrive, it will be a very good striker but I don't know much else."
On the transfer campaign and the eventual arrival, in January, of Pato: "From next season we will have Ronaldo available in full regime which is not to be underestimated. Ronaldo will play in the Champions League and for the first time in years he will do a full preparation. Ronaldo has had many days of rest, we have seen it, also on newspapers, that he is already at work. I think a new striker will come, and if it will be Pato and he comes in January, then I think we might do with the strikers we have now." To what point is Pato a promise and to what degree is it a risk considering his young age? "He's not a player who's done and ready, a player who we already know all about. Right now his evaluation is one thing, in a few years, when his level will be clearer, it could no longer be the right time to buy him: there is always some risk in buying a player who is still a minor. But it's a risk that may be worth taking as Pato is a quality player."
With the long vacations and the regular preparations, and the Champions League starting only in September, will Milan be able to make up for the gap that separated them from the top of the table? "Last season was too abnormal to be considered as a whole. There was the penalisation, the fact that many players came back from the World Cup, and had had just one week of vacations. We hope it will be a more balanced league next year, we believe we have a squad strong enough to compete also for the Scudetto and not only for the Champions League. Next year the league will be much more balanced, everyone will start from scratch, then there will be the return of important teams like Juventus, Napoli, and Genoa."
The preparations will be much different than those of last year. This will certainly be advantageous for the start of the season but also for the central part: "Other than a physical decline, there were a lot of fitness problems due to the fact that we accelerated the preparations to be ready for the Champions League preliminaries because many players had not rested. We had to speed things up urgently because considering the penalisation it was of fundamental importance to participate in the Champions League."
As far as the preparation itself is concerned, will there be anything new? "There will be some new things but the standard is always the same. We have five weeks to prepare for the start of the season, that's what's necessary to get to the first day of the championship in good shape. Then we will have the European Supercup final at the end of the month which we hope to be in good shape for, so we will be able to play a good match because the opposition is very strong."
On Yoann Gourcuff: "The Frenchman has excellent qualities, he's still evolving. I think he can cover several positions in our midfield, he has great quality and we hope he continues to improve. Last year he started very well, then he had a problem with his shoulder which held him back for much of the season. We believe in him, just we believe that Ambrosini will continue to be the player we saw in the last part of the season, for us he is a very important player."
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Seems like Pato will be a target for January.
Graeme C
17-07-2007, 11:00
Ranieri slams Chiellini rant Tuesday 17 July, 2007 -- Channel4
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Juventus Coach Claudio Ranieri has slammed Giorgio Chiellini’s recent outburst to the Press. “He damaged the group.”
The former Under-21 captain, who has been linked with a move to Liverpool, complained on Monday that he felt neglected as the Bianconeri had only focused on renewing the contracts of their star names.
“I believe the unity of the group is sacred and with his words the player damaged it,” said Ranieri after the defender threatened to depart Turin.
“I can understand his concerns, but these things must remain in the family. He acted hastily,” added the former Chelsea tactician.
“Alessandro Del Piero must be a role-model. If Chiellini, who has not won a World Cup, is disappointed what should Alex say? What will happen if Chiellini wins something, will he kill us?”
Juventus will play their first pre-season friendly on Wednesday, when they face Serie C2 outfit Mezzocorona in Pinzolo without the injured Del Piero.
“I will not field the first team. As to Alex, he wants to be 100 per cent, he is his own best doctor. We are working hard to help him catch up with the other players and he will soon be available,” concluded Ranieri.
MiamiMilanista
17-07-2007, 11:01
If I had to guess... Milan will sign two strikers -- one for the "what can you do for me now" i'm guessing drogba (since he wants to leave chelsea) or r10. and one for the "what can you do for me in the future" i'm guessing pato.
In total i think we will get 4 new signings-- 2 up front, one in the midfield, one in the back.
As always for the past month and a half....we shall wait and see....
Hasan Rossonero
17-07-2007, 11:18
I really hope that our management don't start the season with 3 strikers as that would be unbelievably imprudent.
If Milan "reserve" Pato for January and don't purchase a forward it will be catastrophic, and also a huge betrayal to the season ticket holders.
I don't think Milan will do that notwithstanding what Tassotti says. I hope that even if we reserve Pato, we get one of Quag, Dinho, and Drogba/Eto'o.
I also hope that we get another player in defence, preferably a strong CD. I would be very happy with Canna or Barzagli.
I just don't think we can compete for the Scudetto, Intercontinental Cup, Champions League without 2-3 signings, not because we don't have the requisite quality, but because injuries can quite easily decimate our squad. And we all know that injuries come at the most inopportune times. God willing, though, we stay fit.
GilAttack [11]
17-07-2007, 11:35
Well, today they report that Dos Santos is getting his EU passport. Good news for Barcelona.
Rayno_acm
17-07-2007, 11:39
I don't want Eto'o or Ronaldinho. I still don't get it why we still continue to chase them since Laporta said they are not for sale. Why we do not respect their decision? We start to act like those bastards from Real Madrid when they chased Kaka'... :str: That's what makes me worried. :rolleyes:
I think we should concentrate on Sheva or/and Pato. Of course, Drogba is a good option too. :5ok:
What about Quagliarella, he reminds me of Gilardino when he was playing for Parma :w221: and I'm not so sure would it be a good move to sign him. :nervous: But who knows, maybe he is stronger mentally and he would be able to deal with the heavy pressure to play for a team like Milan. :hmmm:
zlatanov
17-07-2007, 11:40
... and Dinho and Etoo seem to be getting closer and closer to getting their EU passes too. Good news for Barca ... and Milan :D
Warro Bantan
17-07-2007, 12:21
I don't want Eto'o or Ronaldinho. I still don't get it why we still continue to chase them since Laporta said they are not for sale. Why we do not respect their decision? We start to act like those bastards from Real Madrid when they chased Kaka'... :str: That's what makes me worried. :rolleyes:
I agree with some of your post, but vehemently disagree with you comparing us to Madrid.
We have not gone about making declarations either from management, or through press we control, to keep making noise about R10 and Etoo.
Calderon and his cronies at Marca and AS are all part of a campaign to: "Get Kaka at all costs" to the point where they photoshopped an image FCS!!
We (ie management) discuss the players we would like to play for us, but we dont go out and say: R10 wants Milan, we are just helping the player to fullfill his wish...(a la Calderon)...we have IMO, acted quite reasonably, while walking the thin line between not infuriating Barca, and keeping our season ticket holders, and other fans, happy.
:respect:
Warro Bantan
17-07-2007, 12:27
OK I'm lost now :confused: what did I do :dontkn: and how am I sensitive? :yuck: (In Trinidad...in the 'hood that is, Sensitive = Gay :D )
Oh and I didn't ps it.....I found it when I googled Ronaldo's gf :googly: Well dru, what can I say that you havent already said yourself:
a) You are lost (agreed :D )
b) Dont know what u did (lame excuse, but we are used to this from u, and really, whats new?)
c) Sensitive = Gay
d) U posted a very lets say.....weird picture of Ronaldo which u claim to not have photoshopped....well, I dunno...but all I have to say is: It takes all kinds to make the world go round.
Jus kiddin my friend...:haha:
Warro Bantan
17-07-2007, 12:35
Silly season, what would we do without it?
Here are the headlines from major newspapers in Italy:
(from channel4.com)
Tuesday 17 July
Gazzetta dello Sport
Milan – Tevez or Quagliarella
Corriere dello Sport
Milan: Baptista and Pato – Two Brazilians on arrival: The first one immediately from Real. And in January the Golden Baby
Tuttosport
Milan try again with Adriano...
We therefore have been linked with: Tevez, Quagliarella, Baptista, and Pato...wow...its either:
a) They are clueless, and are just speculating or
b) they know something, and our list of "6" has expanded?
All I know is, I am even more in the dark than Ray Charles in a cave.
Hasan Rossonero
17-07-2007, 12:39
Silly season, what would we do without it?
Here are the headlines from major newspapers in Italy:
(from channel4.com)
We therefore have been linked with: Tevez, Quagliarella, Baptista, and Pato...wow...its either:
a) They are clueless, and are just speculating or
b) they know something, and our list of "6" has expanded?
All I know is, I am even more in the dark than Ray Charles in a cave.
If we get Quagliarella I would be as happy as Dennis Rodman at a Clinique sale.
Warro Bantan
17-07-2007, 12:45
Or dru at a Vic Secret sale? :D
Gabriel489
17-07-2007, 12:55
So lets guess who will it be on tomorrow's newspaper.
My guess would include
Rooney
Raul
Trez
Owen
Rossi(again)
Arildonardo
17-07-2007, 13:06
So lets guess who will it be on tomorrow's newspaper.
My guess would include
Rooney
Raul
Trez
Owen
Rossi(again)
Well, Galliani told us that the new striker will be a non-EU player, didn't he? If that's true then all of these are pretty much excluded... But you'll never know these days.
So lets guess who will it be on tomorrow's newspaper.
My guess would include
Rooney
Raul
Trez
Owen
Rossi(again)
I don't think any newspaper is that stupid to link us to those players.(except for Rossi)They are all untouchable.
Graeme C
17-07-2007, 13:07
all im going to say is the longer we leave it, the more desperate we are gona get, and the likelyhood that we will end up with another Oliviera.
all im going to say is the longer we leave it, the more desperate we are gona get, and the likelyhood that we will end up with another Oliviera.
That's one theory.
Another one is that we have already secured a forward but have not yet annouced this transfer for certain reasons.
You can choose which one you like the most. :grinser:
Warro Bantan
17-07-2007, 13:14
I prefer your theory ThrusT! :D
Laporta says for the 100th time how there's no chance Eto'o and Dinho to leave Barcelona.
http://www.calciomercato.com/index.php?c=21&a=48914
"Eto'o is not for sale". Barcelona's president Laporta denies the speculations about Eto'o leaving Barca for Milan. "Eto'o represents not only Barcelona but he represents the entire world of football".
Laporta closed Dinho door also and he said Barcelona will play with all 4 champions."
Oh, and Warro, Gazzetta isn't as unprofessional and rude as AS, but they also can't stop writing about Dinho and Eto'o to Milan, eventhough such oportunity has been denied a lot of times by Laporta.
Galliani on the other hand is no different than Calderon which isn't a bad thing but it only means they don't take No for an answer. That's the kind of presidents/directors every club needs !
MiamiMilanista
17-07-2007, 13:23
TuttomercatoWeb.com reports:
AC MILAN, Vagner Love on his way for Milan
Vagner Love (23) has just won the Copa America with Brazil and now he is aimed by AC Milan that have observed him all through the Cup. The most famous Brazilian playing in Russia have impressed for his will and his skills during the matches.
IMO-- not the big name signing everyone is looking for, not exactly a number one striker (more of a forward) but this guy plays with a lot of passion, he is young, he is fast. Thoughts?
GilAttack [11]
17-07-2007, 13:27
Hahahahahahahahahahahhah
wait
hahahahahahhahahahah
Vagner Love?
Hahahahahahahahahaha
:stupid:
Warro Bantan
17-07-2007, 13:28
Agreed Tony, but I think you misunderstand my point, or maybe I wasnt clear enuf...what I mean to say is that Calderon and the Madrid "machine" is quite underhanded in their approach for players, and while Galliani is stubborn, he hasnt gone to quite the extent that Calderon and Madrid have in terms of player pursuit.
The Gazzetta will do what it takes to sell papers....but they havent photoshopped R10 in a Milan kit have they?
Plus, the Gazzetta isnt acting as Berlu or Galliani´s mouth piece...the way AS does...
Further, Laporta can only continue to say that the players wont be sold...until they put in a transfer request, or simply buy themselves out of their contracts, or if Berlu stumps for the "buy-out" clause...he has no choice but to reiterate what the club´s official position is...but as we all know, all that can be circumnavigated, once enuf money is on the table.
And Berlu has plenty of it.
Warro Bantan
17-07-2007, 13:30
TuttomercatoWeb.com reports:
AC MILAN, Vagner Love on his way for Milan
Vagner Love (23) has just won the Copa America with Brazil and now he is aimed by AC Milan that have observed him all through the Cup. The most famous Brazilian playing in Russia have impressed for his will and his skills during the matches....
Thoughts? Only one: No. Please no. :respect:
MiamiMilanista
17-07-2007, 13:31
that's the report....dont hate the messenger...lol
Warro Bantan
17-07-2007, 13:32
No hating...:haha: not at all...but that must be the most ridiculous rumor I have heard in a long time...though the possibility of him being linked with us did cross my mind, once Brazil won the Copa...
But I really really really dont think he is Milan quality...I would rather us take Oliveira back from Zaragoza than to take this guy...
Hasan Rossonero
17-07-2007, 13:42
Agreed Tony, but I think you misunderstand my point, or maybe I wasnt clear enuf...what I mean to say is that Calderon and the Madrid "machine" is quite underhanded in their approach for players, and while Galliani is stubborn, he hasnt gone to quite the extent that Calderon and Madrid have in terms of player pursuit.
The Gazzetta will do what it takes to sell papers....but they havent photoshopped R10 in a Milan kit have they?
Plus, the Gazzetta isnt acting as Berlu or Galliani´s mouth piece...the way AS does...
Further, Laporta can only continue to say that the players wont be sold...until they put in a transfer request, or simply buy themselves out of their contracts, or if Berlu stumps for the "buy-out" clause...he has no choice but to reiterate what the club´s official position is...but as we all know, all that can be circumnavigated, once enuf money is on the table.
And Berlu has plenty of it.
They may not be as egregious as AS, but make no mistake about it, Gazzetta is a paper that is unreservedly pro-Milan (to a lesser extent pro-Inter), and that includes pro-Berlu and pro-Galliani. Their daily edition is filled with news about Milan. Gazzetta may not concoct ludicrous conversations between two people; they would just do it more eloquently.
The difference between Gazzetta and AS is that the former is a respected paper, and has a staff of acclaimed writers while AS is a rag that takes fabrication to almost Orwellian lows. I don't think there is a Spanish equivalent of Gazzetta. The pink paper is almost iconic, while even Spanish readers acknowledge AS is a tabloid.
Franco would have blushed reading AS.
GilAttack [11]
17-07-2007, 13:48
Vagner Love is not Milan calibre, not even close. And he had a below average Copa America, although he was important for Brasil during that last match against Argentina.
It seems they are just throwing dung at the wall and see what sticks.
Graeme C
17-07-2007, 13:52
']Vagner Love is not Milan calibre, not even close. And he had a below average Copa America, although he was important for Brasil during that last match against Argentina.
It seems they are just throwing dung at the wall and see what sticks.
never heard of him, i never heard of Oliviera before he came to Milan either.. and see what happened with that lol.. :grinser:
i am sorry paolo but where do mexican reports claim castillo will go ? he is great
Reports claim that he's close to Valencia, I hope they sign him and we get Villa :zany: .Castillo is young and very good, but a little bit selfish in my opinion
MiamiMilanista
17-07-2007, 13:58
']Vagner Love is not Milan calibre, not even close. And he had a below average Copa America, although he was important for Brasil during that last match against Argentina.
It seems they are just throwing dung at the wall and see what sticks.
It's getting annoying...it's been a full month that i've been looking at news as soon as I wake up (I live in Florida) and being disappointed that nothing has happened... Seems strange that our European Champions have yet to sign anyone at July 17th
I feel we will end up with Drogba
Hmm that leads me to another question, why can't they just buy R10 and wait for him to get an ITALIAN citizenship in MILANO..?
He doesn’t need to be in Spain once the paperwork to get his Spanish citizenship started, he can travel as much as he want and he even can change his residence to, let’s say Italy......so if Milan already have a deal with R10 (which I don't believe) his EU status shouldn't be a problem.
[QUOTE=MedellínBandit®]I feel we will end up with Drogba[/QUOTE
Too difficult to be true :sleepy:
Reports claim that he's close to Valencia, I hope they sign him and we get Villa :zany: .Castillo is young and very good, but a little bit selfish in my opinion
Because i am from Greece, although i hate Oly...os, i know more things. The only official proposal for Castillo is 15 E from Manchester City of Ericsson.
Arildonardo
17-07-2007, 14:18
Vagner Love is a player we can live without. I've never been really impressed by him. I see no point in bringing in him as a replacement for RO as he is not a better player than him...
Baptista???!!! We're they not watching his season at Arsenal? Unless he suddenly returns to the Baptista of Sevilla or he's available for 5 million euros, then we should stay well clear of him.
I'd prefer this 6th option to be Robinho like Dev said. Tevez is a pipe dream, he's already licking Ferguson's backside so i doubt we'll see him with us. Robinho will give us a good mix of skill and attacking ability, like Cassano would but without the mental problems.
He is one of the players i also wanted to see with Milan's shirt but his perfomances are too unstable to sign for our club...... :5ok:
Because i am from Greece, although i hate Oly...os, i know more things. The only official proposal for Castillo is 15 E from Manchester City of Ericsson.
I have never seen Castillo playing for his club, is he as selfish on his club as he is on the NT?
Dunga screwed Vagner's playing by making him play in a wrong position. Vagner could work wonderfully playing wih Ronnie as a second foward. not as a sole striker as Dungass made him play.
Vagner is GOOD. believe me.
How would Moaninho let Drogba go? He saved Chelsea more than a few times this season, and has developed into a frightening striker-the guy's eyes remind me of Ben Johnson! If Chelsea sold Drogs and kept Sheva, I think Moan would have an aneurysm-seriously. He'd be more likely to join Becks and be coach of LA Galaxy than sell Drogs. I just can't see it happening.
Also, Vagner Love-as Patrick Bateman used to say, "Just....say......no".
I like to think that Berlu and Uncle Festus have us sorted out, but I'm getting a bit nervous. Everytime they talk, I think that they feel like they have a secret plan to one-up everyone, except that everybody else is just playing with them and we're going to get skrewed! However, once I open my big mouth and put my two cents out there, I'm sure I'll have to open it again and insert foot!
Arildonardo
17-07-2007, 14:34
How would Moaninho let Drogba go? He saved Chelsea more than a few times this season, and has developed into a frightening striker-the guy's eyes remind me of Ben Johnson!
So what you're trying to tell us is that Drogba is on drugs? :dielaugh:
I have never seen Castillo playing for his club, is he as selfish on his club as he is on the NT?
The thing in which everybody agree is that he is great talent but an even more bad character..... That's the reason why he didn't shine earlier....
Hahaha, no i was trying to tell you that Mourinho would probably dung his pants if they got rid of him. He and Essien are all he's talking about this summer, so for my money we won't be getting him. He would tear up defences though.
Based on some people thinking Baptista is worth a shot since he scored a goal in the CA, I propose we pull off the shocker of the summer and sign Erwin "Jimmy" Hoffmann from the u-20 Austrian national team. He's been their big cheese and scored some nice goals (plus he has 'Jimmy' shaved into the side of his head!).
Hasan Rossonero
17-07-2007, 15:01
Honestly with names like Love being tossed around and even Baptista, I think it would be better if Milan went for someone like Quag or Rossi.
Kaka--7thUCL
17-07-2007, 15:02
http://www.tribalfootball.com/article.php?id=48162
:) read it.
Kaka--7thUCL
17-07-2007, 15:04
Let's hope they really do sign Ronaldinho or we may be relying on Ba :O
http://www.tribalfootball.com/article.php?id=48162
:) read it.
Nobody is going to read anything from a crap site. I never even consider clicking on the link. You need better sources. :bri:
Graeme C
17-07-2007, 15:14
yeah and we dont need lucio for defence, there are far better defenders in Italy than him.
GilAttack [11]
17-07-2007, 15:16
Tevez went for medical in Manchester but West Ham said "No".
Graeme C
17-07-2007, 15:21
Eto'o out, so Milan go Brazilian Tuesday 17 July, 2007 -- Channel4
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Barcelona have slammed the door on Milan’s Samuel Eto’o bid, so their attention turns towards Alexandre Pato and Julio Baptista.
The Rossoneri named Eto’o as one of their prime targets and there were reports today that a £28m bid had been tabled.
However, this evening Barca President Joan Laporta responded to the interest in the Cameroon striker.
“Eto’o is not for sale. This coming season Barcelona’s front line while be a poker of stars – Thierry Henry, Ronaldinho, Lionel Messi and Eto’o.”
FIFA agent Ernesto Bronzetti also doubts that Milan could get their hands on the African hitman.
“I really doubt Eto’o will join Milan. Barcelona have no intention of selling their forward,” he noted.
So Carlo Ancelotti and transfer guru Adriano Galliani must turn their attention to other targets.
Already having a squad packed with Brazilians, they are again looking to the South American nation for reinforcements.
Milan’s interest in Under-20 World Cup starlet Pato is well known and they face a battle with Inter, Chelsea and Real Madrid for his services.
A new name to add to the list is Julio Baptista, who scored a sensational goal in Brazil’s 3-0 Copa America Final victory over Argentina on Sunday.
He spent this season on loan at Arsenal, but is still owned by Real Madrid and would be happy to accept the San Siro switch.
An attacking midfielder, he could allow Kaka to move further up the field to continue his goal-scoring exploits.
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i really wish they could cut this "must be good as hes brazilian cr*p" baptista isnt a big goalscorer, and hasnt played in Italy. If we end up with him i would be massively disapointed.
Eto'o out, so Milan go Brazilian
http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jul17o.html
Barcelona have slammed the door on Milan’s Samuel Eto’o bid, so their attention turns towards Alexandre Pato and Julio Baptista.
The Rossoneri named Eto’o as one of their prime targets and there were reports today that a £28m bid had been tabled.
However, this evening Barca President Joan Laporta responded to the interest in the Cameroon striker.
“Eto’o is not for sale. This coming season Barcelona’s front line while be a poker of stars – Thierry Henry, Ronaldinho, Lionel Messi and Eto’o.”
FIFA agent Ernesto Bronzetti also doubts that Milan could get their hands on the African hitman.
“I really doubt Eto’o will join Milan. Barcelona have no intention of selling their forward,” he noted.
So Carlo Ancelotti and transfer guru Adriano Galliani must turn their attention to other targets.
Already having a squad packed with Brazilians, they are again looking to the South American nation for reinforcements.
Milan’s interest in Under-20 World Cup starlet Pato is well known and they face a battle with Inter, Chelsea and Real Madrid for his services.
A new name to add to the list is Julio Baptista, who scored a sensational goal in Brazil’s 3-0 Copa America Final victory over Argentina on Sunday.
He spent this season on loan at Arsenal, but is still owned by Real Madrid and would be happy to accept the San Siro switch.
An attacking midfielder, he could allow Kaka to move further up the field to continue his goal-scoring exploits.
Hasan Rossonero
17-07-2007, 15:30
3rd time anyone? Come on...you know you want to...:D
So... stop referring to what Galliani say every time, he would make us get crazy!. So get Sheva, or someone else we can get like Huntelaar i do't know, even Villa...
Sheva!, Sheva! Sheva!.
Hasan Rossonero
17-07-2007, 15:31
As much as I am against Sheva's return, IF these Vagner Love and Baptista rumours are true, then I would gladly take him back.
[QUOTE=Hasan Rossonero]3rd time anyone? Come on...you know you want to...:D[/QUOTE
I didn't saw his just why, but it will help us to see important the situation is! :nervous:
remote2book
17-07-2007, 15:54
so our rivals roma have signed guily...and inter two more south americans...i just hope our siginng blows all these out of the water..
Graeme C
17-07-2007, 15:58
so our rivals roma have signed guily...and inter two more south americans...i just hope our siginng blows all these out of the water..
yeah me 2, and hope that we havent only signed ibrahim ba back this summer...
Probably our 5 new signings will be unveiled in a super-spectacular at the san siro when they unveil the new shirt. So let's all be calm (yeah, right) until then...Berlu just wants to sit in his seat and feel the love as he parades them out for us to drool over!
hitmannq8
17-07-2007, 16:06
Probably our 5 new signings will be unveiled in a super-spectacular at the san siro when they unveil the new shirt. So let's all be calm (yeah, right) until then...Berlu just wants to sit in his seat and feel the love as he parades them out for us to drool over!
I kinda thought of that too. I dont understand why a team such as Milan that their entire management was promising a huge transfer market all throughout the season, haven't made one move yet. The only conclusion I could come up to is that we have already found agreements and want to present them altogether thus making a surprise.
http://www.tribalfootball.com/article.php?id=48162
:) read it.
www.footballtonyrumoursandlies.com.it
read it:)
Shocking news came from Spain. Milan is ready to offer 104.3m euro for R10 and they already made the deal with Villa who'll be a Milan player next year for a price tag of 25m euro.
Carlo Ancelotti was delighted and he shared his happiness on the microphone of Tonchi TV. " We promised we'll get a great player to our fans and we kept our promise. David Villa is a special players who will score 20 goals every year. I had a meeting with Frank Rijkaard and he said he doesn't count anymore on r10 so we made an official offer"
Galliani didn't hide his happines " Great name for a great team. We promised a big signing and we kept the promise. Now we will buy Ronaldinho and then we will try to get Zambrotta, Ballack and Camoranesi"
Captain Paolo Maldini is delighted with the new signiing but he warns the management that they will have to buy a central defender. " I'm happy we got David and we are close to r10, but now we have to concentrate on the defence and buy John Terry"
From Camp Nou, Barcelona
Tony Corleone
Or dru at a Vic Secret sale? :D
:rotfl: Of course I know you mean that I like going to the sales to see all the beautiful girls (who really should PM ME :D ) there :D
It's a shame I couldn't give you rep points for that :5ok: ....I can give my friends like you, JimUK (aka the lame thundercat :D ), Tony29 etc rep points for that matter :dontkn:
Warro old buddy what sayst thou on Tevez??
www.footballtonyrumoursandlies.com.it
read it:)
Shocking news came from Spain. Milan is ready to offer 104.3m euro for R10 and they already made the deal with Villa who'll be a Milan player next year for a price tag of 25m euro.
Carlo Ancelotti was delighted and he shared his happiness on the microphone of Tonchi TV. " We promised we'll get a great player to our fans and we kept our promise. David Villa is a special players who will score 20 goals every year. I had a meeting with Frank Rijkaard and he said he doesn't count anymore on r10 so we made an official offer"
Galliani didn't hide his happines " Great name for a great team. We promised a big signing and we kept the promise. Now we will buy Ronaldinho and then we will try to get Zambrotta, Ballack and Camoranesi"
Captain Paolo Maldini is delighted with the new signiing but he warns the management that they will have to buy a central defender. " I'm happy we got David and we are close to r10, but now we have to concentrate on the defence and buy John Terry"
From Camp Nou, Barcelona
Tony Corleone
Tony i will kill you, at first i believed it, at the end i started realizing that is very good to be true. When i made a click the address i got sure.
To take the revenge to the rest of us, we should beat this year Juventus wherever we will play against them :d55: :d55: :mad: :mad: :grinser:
Tony i will kill you, at first i believed it, at the end i started realizing that is very good to be true. When i made a click the address i got sure.
To take the revenge to the rest of us, we should beat this year Juventus wherever we will play against them :d55: :d55: :mad: :mad: :grinser:
Wait a while, you won't be the only one who believed it. I have a strange feeling one particular member will even celebrate these "news"...if he reads my post , that is :)
Hasan Rossonero
17-07-2007, 16:30
Wait a while, you won't be the only one who believed it. I have a strange feeling one particular member will even celebrate these "news"...if he reads my post , that is :)
:p017: :p017: :p017: :p017: :djn:
:p017: :p017: :p017: :p017: :djn:
Looooool, +rep :haha:
Bosniaco
17-07-2007, 16:31
Wow look like "The Juventino" Tony is spending more time on MM then he does on the Juventus forum. Thats a true Juventino :)
Wait a while, you won't be the only one who believed it. I have a strange feeling one particular member will even celebrate these "news"...if he reads my post , that is :)
I didn't realize the type of adress, (www.newstony...) the way of writting was different and the hope for a transfer :mad: made me to believe it at first. I just try to find your ip adress to kill you
:p017: :p017: :p017: :p017: :djn:
Hasan stop laughing at me and say to Galliani to make transfers otherwise.... :stupid: we will be (commit suicide).
Wow look like "The Juventino" Tony is spending more time on MM then he does on the Juventus forum. Thats a true Juventino :)
A true Juventino is someone who has a Juventus player, lets say Hasan Salihamidzic, as his avatar, in a black&white picture ;)
So, obviously i'm not a true Juventino !
P.s : And lately i'm spending more time on Juventuz.com, although there were times when i was much more active on MM than i was there. Depends on where is more interesting and where are the things happening.
It's nothing to be ashamed of. I love some members here and they are good friends of mine so you can call me a true or a false fan but you can't change a single thing :irritate:
I didn't realize the type of adress, (www.newstony...) the way of writting was different and the hope for a transfer :mad: made me to believe it at first. I just try to find your ip adress to kill you
Haha, don't worry mate, you made a normal mistake. It's me who should be ashamed here, not you
P.s : I got fooled like this many times, so you're not the only one :5ok:
Hasan Rossonero
17-07-2007, 16:40
Hasan stop laughing at me and say to Galliani to make transfers otherwise.... :stupid: we will be (commit suicide).
I am not laughing at you. I am celebrating that we got Ronaldinho.
A true Juventino is someone who has a Juventus player, lets say Hasan Salihamidzic, as his avatar, in a black&white picture ;)
So, obviously i'm not a true Juventino !
P.s : And lately i'm spending more time on Juventuz.com, although there were times when i was much more active on MM than i was there. Depends on where is more interesting and where are the things happening.
It's nothing to be ashamed of. I love some members here and they are good friends of mine so you can call me a true or a false fan but you can't change a single thing :irritate:
Shame on you to make fan of us... You are appreciated here you know that.
For your information i made the fifth day of physiotherapy. My leg keeps killing me but i started moving it much more. So i need to complete the reooccuring of the movement and then to make it stronger. I play as GK, CB, MF but i have played as a left back in the past, i am very good at defending 1.82, after breking my right leg i use the left as well as the right so until Milan to buy a player... :zany: i would be available to sign for Milan... I need a good wage and a tsarter to go afterwards to see the games of PAOK Thessaloniki :grinser: :
www.footballtonyrumoursandlies.com.it
read it:)
Shocking news came from Spain. Milan is ready to offer 104.3m euro for R10 and they already made the deal with Villa who'll be a Milan player next year for a price tag of 25m euro.
Carlo Ancelotti was delighted and he shared his happiness on the microphone of Tonchi TV. " We promised we'll get a great player to our fans and we kept our promise. David Villa is a special players who will score 20 goals every year. I had a meeting with Frank Rijkaard and he said he doesn't count anymore on r10 so we made an official offer"
Galliani didn't hide his happines " Great name for a great team. We promised a big signing and we kept the promise. Now we will buy Ronaldinho and then we will try to get Zambrotta, Ballack and Camoranesi"
Captain Paolo Maldini is delighted with the new signiing but he warns the management that they will have to buy a central defender. " I'm happy we got David and we are close to r10, but now we have to concentrate on the defence and buy John Terry"
From Camp Nou, Barcelona
Tony Corleone
I knew this was fake when it mentioned Camoranesi :grinser:
Probably our 5 new signings will be unveiled in a super-spectacular at the san siro
When did you hear we were getting 5 new players? :confused:
I am not laughing at you. I am celebrating that we got Ronaldinho.
Yeah? we finally got him? how much we paid? 50 E
to add it to my list of tranfers taken place....
www.giorgosmercato.gr
Shame on you to make fan of us... You are appreciated here you know that.
For your information i made the fifth day of physiotherapy. My leg keeps killing me but i started moving it much more. So i need to complete the reooccuring of the movement and then to make it stronger. I play as GK, CB, MF but i have played as a left back in the past, i am very good at defending 1.82, after breking my right leg i use the left as well as the right so until Milan to buy a player... :zany: i would be available to sign for Milan... I need a good wage and a tsarter to go afterwards to see the games of PAOK Thessaloniki :grinser: :
Don't mention yours and Milan's name in the same sentence because you'll immediately get an offer from Inter :haha:
You look like a versatile player plus you come with an EU passport. You're in your 20's i think....hmmmm, we offer you 10m euro in cash to join Juve :grinser:
As for the charter..... we'll give you Agnelli's helicopter to use it while you're in Juve, together with the pilot, 3 hot stewardess, a masseur, one year ticket for all PAOK matches and Boumsong to push him out of the plane when you'll be 10km up in the sky.
And we can guarantee you a starting XI position while in Milan you'll be forgotten on the bench.
Take it or leave it :uhm:
What's wrong with your leg, btw ?
ACMILAN1983
17-07-2007, 17:14
']No way Calderon gives Galliani what he wants, especially being a highly regarded player for them coming off a strong Copa America. That wouldnt be exactly a Real Madrid kind of move.
Maybe if its brazilian, not named Adriano, Ronaldinho or Pato, its Fred.
lol, of course it's not likely, hence I said it was far fetched, but surely a more plausible name than Baptista, Fred and Wagner Love. Anyway, it's a move I'd welcome if possible.
Anyway, I'm still going to put my money on Ronaldinho and Eto'o should Dinho not come. I also think Pato is all but secured, just a case of waiting to see how other deals turn out.
Must say this is a boring transfer season.
“We hope we can continue doing well and, who knows, maybe we could also win the Champions League this time around.”
Julio Cesar forgets that he plays for Inter and not rivals Milan
:haha:
Channel4 rocks with the funny remarks !
“We hope we can continue doing well and, who knows, maybe we could also win the Champions League this time around.”
Julio Cesar forgets that he plays for Inter and not rivals Milan
:haha:
Channel4 rocks with the funny remarks !
The same was said by Materazzi. Adriano scored in the first friendly game of Inter...
GilAttack [11]
17-07-2007, 17:31
“We hope we can continue doing well and, who knows, maybe we could also win the Champions League this time around.”
Julio Cesar forgets that he plays for Inter and not rivals Milan
:haha:
Channel4 rocks with the funny remarks !
What are you laughing at? He was talking about Playstation...
:grinser:
Warro Bantan
17-07-2007, 17:32
Druster, re Tevez....well, personally, I think he is all that, and more...but unfortunately, he is "height-challenged" and even worse, and Argentine, which means he will be overlooked (no pun intended) by Berlu et al.
I think he has all the qualities to play alongside Ronaldo or Gila, with Kaka in support, or in tandem with Kaka behind a single striker.
He never gives up, is a fighter, who will tackle, and run and run all game. Any player that can be voted "player of the year" in Brazil is a good player, and for an Argentine to claim that accolade, he must be a genius.
I rate him highly, but doubt we will ever see him in a Milan shirt.
_MaJi_tz
17-07-2007, 17:33
http://www.calciomercato.it/dettaglioNewsCategoria.asp?hdnIdCategoria=1&hdnId=2473
good news for tevez
hitmannq8
17-07-2007, 17:34
Indeed, a terribly boring one. So far it is even worse than the one last year, lets just not hope it ends with the same result.
Alot of Milanista's seem to believe that Pato is already secured (by Leonardo). If our big-name striker comes to Milan as a Non-EU player then Pato will have to wait until January, if the striker comes as a EU player then Pato might also come along this transfer window. That is why we have been waiting apparently, just to see how the EU status works out for the players we are interested in.
Even though Pato didn't have a great WC, he is only 17 and I think is a great investment. I am just not sure on what is the best idea - a) to bring him to Milan as a squad player b) to loan him out back to Internacionale. But I do know for sure the best thing we can do is buy him now before he increases his value, then we can sort out where he plays.
Anyway, about the big-name striker that will come, if it were Sheva then Pato would not come along this summer because Sheva is a Non-EU player. Ronaldinho and Eto'o are both currently Non-EU and are waiting to see what happens, they could both be EU by the end of the transfer market (does this mean we have to wait that long for a transfer? sigh...) Tevez? As much as I'd like him to come, I highly doubt that. He would want Inter more than Milan and he probably is 99% a Man Utd player already.
Quagliarella will stay at Udinese but indeed is a fascinating player I would love to have. He can be used in wide-midfield roles and can give us another option when attacking. He is not like Gila, this guy has played well from every position he has been fielded at and his goals are really hard-worked (most of 'em). I guess we would not sign him for the same reason we did not sign Ribery (shame we didnt land him really).
GilAttack [11]
17-07-2007, 17:35
Druster, re Tevez....well, personally, I think he is all that, and more...but unfortunately, he is "height-challenged" and even worse, and Argentine, which means he will be overlooked (no pun intended) by Berlu et al.
I think he has all the qualities to play alongside Ronaldo or Gila, with Kaka in support, or in tandem with Kaka behind a single striker.
He never gives up, is a fighter, who will tackle, and run and run all game. Any player that can be voted "player of the year" in Brazil is a good player, and for an Argentine to claim that accolade, he must be a genius.
I rate him highly, but doubt we will ever see him in a Milan shirt.
I already said that if he were to come to Milan, he would end up being a fan favorite.
But Tevez wants to decide his future ASAP and that would be an obstacle to come here....and Im saying this since he isnt an EU player, right? And Tevez isnt our #1 choice, so we would still go first after Ronaldinho, Eto'o or some other non-EU player.
A player taht would be useful is Dani Alves but is not our priority, RB, MR, passing, scoring.... anyone here who doesn't want him?....
For Tony... i am addicted to black and white but only for the one's of PAOK.
If we end up with Baptista then god help us.
hitmannq8
17-07-2007, 17:45
http://www.calciomercato.it/dettaglioNewsCategoria.asp?hdnIdCategoria=1&hdnId=2473
good news for tevez
A nice article of a person explaining his own opinion on why Tevez can go to Milan. It just says stuff that Man Utd's problems of signing the player have increased after West Ham refused the player to take a medical for United. He also talks about why it is better for West Ham to sell the player outside England (didnt understand that part). It also says that Kia Joorabchian will pocket most of the transfer fee.
GilAttack11 is right about Tevez, if he comes here he will be a fan favourite. He has the fighting spirit of Gattuso. I would love to see us go for him instead of Dinho and Eto'o. But I still remember Tevez saying that he hates Milan before he played against us in the 2003 World Club Championship so I dont know if he'd want a move here.
Maltese Charlie
17-07-2007, 17:47
I am not laughing at you. I am celebrating that we got Ronaldinho.
Hasan, don't celebrate so much, because Milan channel had just announced that they send him already on loan to Genoa. :grinser:
Graeme C
17-07-2007, 17:49
A nice article of a person explaining his own opinion on why Tevez can go to Milan. It just says stuff that Man Utd's problems of signing the player have increased after West Ham refused the player to take a medical for United. He also talks about why it is better for West Ham to sell the player outside England (didnt understand that part). It also says that Kia Joorabchian will pocket most of the transfer fee.
GilAttack11 is right about Tevez, if he comes here he will be a fan favourite. He has the fighting spirit of Gattuso. I would love to see us go for him instead of Dinho and Eto'o. But I still remember Tevez saying that he hates Milan before he played against us in the 2003 World Club Championship so I dont know if he'd want a move here.
Has Tevez got a EU passport? if not then its him or Pato..
GilAttack [11]
17-07-2007, 17:51
A nice article of a person explaining his own opinion on why Tevez can go to Milan. It just says stuff that Man Utd's problems of signing the player have increased after West Ham refused the player to take a medical for United. He also talks about why it is better for West Ham to sell the player outside England (didnt understand that part). It also says that Kia Joorabchian will pocket most of the transfer fee.
GilAttack11 is right about Tevez, if he comes here he will be a fan favourite. He has the fighting spirit of Gattuso. I would love to see us go for him instead of Dinho and Eto'o. But I still remember Tevez saying that he hates Milan before he played against us in the 2003 World Club Championship so I dont know if he'd want a move here.
I cant recall Tevez saying that, really. Maybe something the italian press blew out of proportions, or changed Tevez words. Tevez wont ever say that about a big side like Milan.
Hasan Rossonero
17-07-2007, 17:57
Has Tevez got a EU passport? if not then its him or Pato..
No, he doesn't.
it won't be tevez, ronaldinho, etoo, villa or drogba
our signings (if we make any) will be from pato, cassano, baptista and shevchenko (which will set the team backwards)
Warro Bantan
17-07-2007, 18:01
it won't be tevez, ronaldinho, etoo, villa or drogba This after Sir Jim, aka "the predicter" looked at his crystal ball this morning (no toads, not crystal meth ball :grinser: ) and saw, clear as day, that none of these players were in our future. :str:
Hasan Rossonero
17-07-2007, 18:01
A nice article of a person explaining his own opinion on why Tevez can go to Milan. It just says stuff that Man Utd's problems of signing the player have increased after West Ham refused the player to take a medical for United. He also talks about why it is better for West Ham to sell the player outside England (didnt understand that part). It also says that Kia Joorabchian will pocket most of the transfer fee.
GilAttack11 is right about Tevez, if he comes here he will be a fan favourite. He has the fighting spirit of Gattuso. I would love to see us go for him instead of Dinho and Eto'o. But I still remember Tevez saying that he hates Milan before he played against us in the 2003 World Club Championship so I dont know if he'd want a move here.
It says that Milan would offer West Ham 33 million euros straight up. So they would prefer that more to the loan option that United are willing to take up. That money could be then used by West Ham on the market.
Hasan Rossonero
17-07-2007, 18:02
it won't be tevez, ronaldinho, etoo, villa or drogba
our signings (if we make any) will be from pato, cassano, baptista and shevchenko (which will set the team backwards)
Cassano has been fairly categorically ruled out.
How do you say "to sign" in Spanish ? Anyone ? Jim_UK ?
Jaimie , i think Galliani said yesterday that Cassano isn't in Milan plans for now !
Warro Bantan
17-07-2007, 18:06
I cannot for a minute believe that we will buy Baptista..but I couldnt believe that we would sign Vieri either....so, I guess I shouldnt be surprised if I see "the Beast" suiting up in a Milan kit in a few...(do we make any his size anyway?)
I do agree with Jim (aka Mr Predicter) that if we do go for $heva, it will be a step backwards, but sometimes, we all need to take a step back, to move forward...:dontkn:
i know cassano was rejected ... i added him to the list to make our number of choices seem even more desperate :D
Mr Predictor hmmm? I predict that the nurse who i saw today will arrive at my house tomorrow and want to have my babies :rotfl:
Warro Bantan
17-07-2007, 18:14
Mr Predictor hmmm? I predict that the nurse who i saw today will arrive at my house tomorrow and want to have my babies :rotfl: Unless of course, you went to get treated for whatever u picked up on ur trip to London... :uhm:
:D
this is always a danger when you travel to a big city ... lots of uggos and skank prostitutes (male & female) ... though what i was being treated for was something else entirely ....
anyway, she can cure me anytime :delol:
Warro Bantan
17-07-2007, 18:18
Tony, to sign in Spanish could be "a la muestra"...but let me check some other sources...
Checked: Firmar is to sign....info from one of my colleagues in Costa Rica, who is into football, and understood the context.
Tony, to sign in Spanish could be "a la muestra"...but let me check some other sources...
Lol, no need to do that. I was only joking with Jim about his signature :grinser:
booooooooooooooo .... that editing doesn't roll off the tongue ... not that you'd want one of them to roll of your tongue ... but i digress ..... booooooooooooooo
:ilol:
Warro Bantan
17-07-2007, 18:21
Lol, no need to do that. I was only joking with Jim about his signature :grinser: :rotfl: Good one!!
tony, i haven't the faintest idea how to speak Spanish ... i just make it up as i go along
Warro Bantan
17-07-2007, 18:23
Jim, what can I tell u, the life of a moderator...just doesnt get any easier...:moan:
Warro Bantan
17-07-2007, 18:25
Back on topic:
Man U is having probs signing Tevez:
http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,2128611,00.html
gee ... i thought moderators had all these groupies and wild parties ... and i couldn't even begin to imagine what kind of things admins got up to :D
they won't have any problems signing tevez, this is merely a brief pause before his impending move to Manchester :yuck:
Kaka--7thUCL
17-07-2007, 18:31
See my signature, thats milan next year :D
Kaka--7thUCL
17-07-2007, 18:32
i want ballack..I don't care much nemore for dinho. If it were up to me I'd get Ballack and
Villa
See my signature, thats milan next year :D
The horror! :notlist:
The first 2 lines and Nesta are fine, the rest is... :grinser:
Kaka--7thUCL
17-07-2007, 18:35
Lol that's because the first two lines not including Henry are all milan players :O lol ill change henry with villa :D
Warro Bantan
17-07-2007, 18:38
gee ... i thought moderators had all these groupies and wild parties ... and i couldn't even begin to imagine what kind of things admins got up to :DWell, when u become a mod Jim, I can share all the info with u re: orgies and groupies...but until then....
And as for the Admins...thats like Nirvana.....dude.
:grinser:
Lol that's because the first two lines not including Henry are all milan players :O lol ill change henry with villa :D
:grinser:
Get rid of Ronaldo,Ballack and that Spanish poodle in the defence and I can live with it. :zany:
Any "new news" on this late hour?
This is a public service announcement:
Please go and sign Zlat's birthday thread.
Thank you!
Hey guys leave Jim alone :mad: I mean anyone that uses the Lionel's chauffeur shouldn't be made more fun of :D
In other news Adriano is back to scoring with Sphincter. Guess our rehab.....oops I meant "lab" :D would have been able to fix him up after all
All I want....and it's not someone we've ever been linked to is Sergio Aguero..........he's simply great + he's a romantic good looking boy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5y2N3xAwpw) and it's as simple as that :bri:
also in other news, Panthro becomes king of the thundercats ... becomes a mod and enjoys the wild parties and groupies ... and watches Suazo impress on his debut for Inter :groan:
You can keep wishing about Aguero, Madrid won't let him leave in the same summer as poster boy Torres.
This is a public service announcement:
Please go and sign Zlat's birthday thread.
Thank you!
Done ! :5ok:
It's still not his birthday ( 17th of July) in the USA but he's a Bulgarian and in Bulgaria it's 17th already...... yeah, me and technicalities :grinser:
Edit: Holly crap....it's 18th now, not 17th :devf:
Hasan Rossonero
17-07-2007, 19:04
Da Sky, Milan: clamorosa idea Amantino Mancini?
18.07.2007 00.01 di Francesco Letizia articolo letto 2081 volte
Clamorosa indiscrezione lanciata durante lo "Speciale Calciomercato" di SkySport riguardo un possibile intreccio di mercato tra Milan e Roma: secondo l'esperto Gianluca Di Marzio, i rossoneri potrebbero a breve virare sul brasiliano Amantino Mancini per offrire un'alternativa al loro gioco offensivo. Con l'arrivo di Giuly, il verdeoro potrebbe essere ceduto dalla Roma in caso di offerta economica consistente: per i rossoneri poi, Mancini sarebbe una soluzione graditissima, essendo tralaltro controllato dallo stesso procuratore di Pato, Gilmar Veloz, giocatore a cui il trottolino di Belo Horizonte non chiuderebbe lo "slot" da extracomunitario, provenendo già dal mercato interno italiano.
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tuttomercato
In short: Milan according to a expert agent are considering Mancini of Roma, and Roma may sell now that they have an alternative in Giuly. Furthermore, he wouldn't take a non-EU spot. This move would offer Milan another (type of) offensive option.
GilAttack [11]
17-07-2007, 19:25
I thought Mancini had something to do with Inter. Still, its just another name the press is throwing out there since there isnt any movement at all.
:tired:
Now this could be something special. Amantino is the player i'm in love with. Honestly, i'd hate to see him in Milan or Inter (although, Mancini leaving Roma is good for Juve's chances to be in top4 this season) but i must admit that it will be a classy signing.
I still don't understand why is Milan after a striker. You have world's best attacker of the last 10 years who still guarantees many goals. You have Gilardino who is also a +15 goals per season guarantee and you have good old Pippo. Why do you need to spend 30 or 40m on a superstar striker when a 4th choice attacker could well be enough if you have Kaka and another star behind the striker ?
The best for Milan would be to find a player who'll play together with Kaka (like Dinho) behind Ronnie.
That's why i think Ronaldinho is the better choice than Drogba, Sheva, Eto'o but if Dinho is untouchable then Mancini is really the next best thing. This guy is so fast, technical, unpredictable...you must love him. He's terrorizing the defences and you remember how good he played against Milan in all 4 matches last season.
Imo , Kaka-Mancini-Striker is better than Kaka-striker-striker.
The only problem is, if it's true, his behaviour. He's not the best character out there.
Also, i think Liverpool and Juve were sent to hell by mrs.Sensi when they asked about his availability. Dunno if Roma is planning to sell him. I think they'll try to keep him because he's now much better player than Giuly.
It's just a game his agent is playing, imo....... Mancini is gettin "only" 1.5m per year and he wants more. If Roma offers more than he'll renew the contract.
Warro Bantan
17-07-2007, 19:29
Will he though? I thought there was bad blood between he and Totti?
Will he though? I thought there was bad blood between he and Totti?
Yeah, but it's like that for the last God knows how many years :)
They were still functioning great !
after all robinho, baptista, emerson, -younamerandombrazilian- names that i dont like much (ok to emerson if he's heading for bench) that is a great option. Still, prolly just another bluff like Gil said.
Trequartista
17-07-2007, 21:21
after all robinho, baptista, emerson, -younamerandombrazilian- names that i dont like much (ok to emerson if he's heading for bench) that is a great option. Still, prolly just another bluff like Gil said.
WE BUY BAPTISTA I WILL DIE! ok he scored a good goal at the coppa america but he is crap!
please no baptista lets not deal with real anymore!
Hasan Rossonero
17-07-2007, 21:40
I think Mancini would be an awesome signing. Skillful and versatile. He is also very young.
Today's Gazzetta says that Milan are preparing 15 million for Quag, but Udinese would want something closer to 20 million euros. However, up till now all signs from the Udinese camp is that he will stay.
It then briefly discusses Drogba, Eto'o, and Tevez, saying nothing new other than Eto'o and Drogba seem to be not for sale, while Tevez's arrival is a very remote possibility.
Hasan Rossonero
17-07-2007, 22:07
Well I should say pretty young. I think he is 27 or so, but still, he has his best years ahead of him.
remote2book
17-07-2007, 22:30
hey hassan where you from?
it won't be tevez, ronaldinho, etoo, villa or drogba
our signings (if we make any) will be from pato, cassano, baptista and shevchenko (which will set the team backwards)
Optmistic, huh?
Gabriel489
18-07-2007, 00:28
So Mancini is todays favor
Who is next
hitmannq8
18-07-2007, 02:31
Italian friends in Milan are talking about Pato saying he has already been sealed, does anyone have anything on this?
Da Sky, Milan: clamorosa idea Amantino Mancini?
18.07.2007 00.01 di Francesco Letizia articolo letto 2081 volte
Clamorosa indiscrezione lanciata durante lo "Speciale Calciomercato" di SkySport riguardo un possibile intreccio di mercato tra Milan e Roma: secondo l'esperto Gianluca Di Marzio, i rossoneri potrebbero a breve virare sul brasiliano Amantino Mancini per offrire un'alternativa al loro gioco offensivo. Con l'arrivo di Giuly, il verdeoro potrebbe essere ceduto dalla Roma in caso di offerta economica consistente: per i rossoneri poi, Mancini sarebbe una soluzione graditissima, essendo tralaltro controllato dallo stesso procuratore di Pato, Gilmar Veloz, giocatore a cui il trottolino di Belo Horizonte non chiuderebbe lo "slot" da extracomunitario, provenendo già dal mercato interno italiano.
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tuttomercato
In short: Milan according to a expert agent are considering Mancini of Roma, and Roma may sell now that they have an alternative in Giuly. Furthermore, he wouldn't take a non-EU spot. This move would offer Milan another (type of) offensive option.
No, please no Mancini. He is only a normal player who played well in Spaletti's tactic and fit to Spal's tactic. Even Perotta did well last year!! With his mentality and unproven skill in other team including national team, I really doubt he could play like he did in Rome. I hope, Milan just stay away from him.
Optmistic, huh?
more like realistic
why not a move for Rosina? No one seems to be mentioning his name.
Italian friends in Milan are talking about Pato saying he has already been sealed, does anyone have anything on this?
What I wrote in XT about this:
All rumours to other clubs are dead.
The rumours to other clubs we saw before was not solid in any way.
Leonardo is behind the deal, probably worked long on it.
His agent came here, that is comfirmed.
He fits the profile for one of our transfers.
The comments by our management and players is the ones for someone that is sealed, not someone that is just loosely rumoured.
Ancelotti went to see him personally and is said to have given him the stamp of approval.
His age and non-eu status are the reason he is not being presented yet.
He is sealed. Likely for january.
Some of what you say is just one way of looking at it.
All rumours to other clubs are dead
So is the rumour of him to our club. Inter & Chelsea are still linked to him when the papers decide to do so.
The rumours to other clubs we saw before was not solid in any way.
Chelsea made an offer i believe.
Leonardo is behind the deal, probably worked long on it.
This is true and probably our trump card.
His agent came here, that is comfirmed.
His agent also went to London, that was also confirmed.
He fits the profile for one of our transfers.
This is true, but as Chelsea & Inter (clubs who buy without profile most of the time) are the others linked, this is irrelevant to their needs.
The comments by our management and players is the ones for someone that is sealed, not someone that is just loosely rumoured.
I agree. Galliani recently said that Pato was worth all 4 of Shevchenko, Etoo, Ronaldinho & Drogba. That's not a statement you make if you have no intention of backing it up.
Ancelotti went to see him personally and is said to have given him the stamp of approval.
I'm sure plenty of other scouts and managers have seen him also. Plus Mourinho, Mancini & Moratti have spoken about him just like Ancelotti has. I can look in a shop window, it doesn't mean i've bought the goods.
His age and non-eu status are the reason he is not being presented yet.
Why is this the case? Why be so secretive about sealing his deal. Surely all you'd have to say is that we've signed him and that he'll be joining us after he's 18.
So liked i said, for me your views are definately a way of looking at things, but it's only 1 way. Fans from other clubs could probably just as easily make up a similar list to suit their needs and make it look like things are in their favour.
All will be revealed shortly :D
If we cant look outside Italy then we should stick with inside Italy:
Berlu I would like Mancini, Quag & Boijinov.
Gabriel489
18-07-2007, 06:02
SO is Pato red and black?
To be honest, I think it is about time Milan went out and sign someone
Eto'o out, so Milan go Brazilian Tuesday 17 July, 2007
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Barcelona have slammed the door on Milan’s Samuel Eto’o bid, so their attention turns towards Alexandre Pato and Julio Baptista.
The Rossoneri named Eto’o as one of their prime targets and there were reports today that a £28m bid had been tabled.
However, this evening Barca President Joan Laporta responded to the interest in the Cameroon striker.
“Eto’o is not for sale. This coming season Barcelona’s front line while be a poker of stars – Thierry Henry, Ronaldinho, Lionel Messi and Eto’o.”
FIFA agent Ernesto Bronzetti also doubts that Milan could get their hands on the African hitman.
“I really doubt Eto’o will join Milan. Barcelona have no intention of selling their forward,” he noted.
So Carlo Ancelotti and transfer guru Adriano Galliani must turn their attention to other targets.
Already having a squad packed with Brazilians, they are again looking to the South American nation for reinforcements.
Milan’s interest in Under-20 World Cup starlet Pato is well known and they face a battle with Inter, Chelsea and Real Madrid for his services.
A new name to add to the list is Julio Baptista, who scored a sensational goal in Brazil’s 3-0 Copa America Final victory over Argentina on Sunday.
He spent this season on loan at Arsenal, but is still owned by Real Madrid and would be happy to accept the San Siro switch.
An attacking midfielder, he could allow Kaka to move further up the field to continue his goal-scoring exploits.
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so julio baptista and pato are milan's biggest targets!
like those 2 players hope we get em both and 1 defender
blah blah blah
I still don't understand why is Milan after a striker. You have world's best attacker of the last 10 years who still guarantees many goals. You have Gilardino who is completely GAY :zany: also a +15 goals per season guarantee and you have good old Pippo. blah blah
:proud: :proud: you made my day with those pro Ronaldo comments Tony :respect:
don't raise your hopes dru. he meant Willy Aubameyang (sp?) for sure :D
Hasan Rossonero
18-07-2007, 07:39
Eto'o out, so Milan go Brazilian Tuesday 17 July, 2007
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Barcelona have slammed the door on Milan’s Samuel Eto’o bid, so their attention turns towards Alexandre Pato and Julio Baptista.
The Rossoneri named Eto’o as one of their prime targets and there were reports today that a £28m bid had been tabled.
However, this evening Barca President Joan Laporta responded to the interest in the Cameroon striker.
“Eto’o is not for sale. This coming season Barcelona’s front line while be a poker of stars – Thierry Henry, Ronaldinho, Lionel Messi and Eto’o.”
FIFA agent Ernesto Bronzetti also doubts that Milan could get their hands on the African hitman.
“I really doubt Eto’o will join Milan. Barcelona have no intention of selling their forward,” he noted.
So Carlo Ancelotti and transfer guru Adriano Galliani must turn their attention to other targets.
Already having a squad packed with Brazilians, they are again looking to the South American nation for reinforcements.
Milan’s interest in Under-20 World Cup starlet Pato is well known and they face a battle with Inter, Chelsea and Real Madrid for his services.
A new name to add to the list is Julio Baptista, who scored a sensational goal in Brazil’s 3-0 Copa America Final victory over Argentina on Sunday.
He spent this season on loan at Arsenal, but is still owned by Real Madrid and would be happy to accept the San Siro switch.
An attacking midfielder, he could allow Kaka to move further up the field to continue his goal-scoring exploits.
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so julio baptista and pato are milan's biggest targets!
like those 2 players hope we get em both and 1 defender
And there is the third time folks! :D
:proud: :proud: you made my day with those pro Ronaldo comments Tony :respect:
Silly editing! How dare you edit Tony's by writing Gila gay? Respect other player if you want your Ronaldo gets respect! It shows who you are, you know that?
Silly editing! How dare you edit Tony's by writing Gila gay? Respect other player if you want your Ronaldo gets respect! It shows who you are, you know that?
Please accept my apology in Dru's name.
Myself and Dru are friends and we're joking between each other all the time, so it's kinda allowed for him to edit my posts :)
But i know what he wrote was stupid and childish and many of you feel insulted with the way he talks about Gila.
I'll have to teach him a lesson :nunu:
Silly editing! How dare you edit Tony's by writing Gila gay? Respect other player if you want your Ronaldo gets respect! It shows who you are, you know that?
sorry mate :respect: I didn't mean anything....and certainly not that Gila is literally gay :p155: I just meant that Gila isn't the best that's all.
Please accept my apology in Dru's name.
Myself and Dru are friends and we're joking between each other all the time, so it's kinda allowed for him to edit my posts :)
But i know what he wrote was stupid and childish and many of you feel insulted with the way he talks about Gila.
I'll have to teach him a lesson :nunu:
Since those posts were in seconds of eachother was it a case of great minds thinking alike or fools seldom differing?? :grinser:
Please accept my apology in Dru's name.
Myself and Dru are friends and we're joking between each other all the time, so it's kinda allowed for him to edit my posts :)
But i know what he wrote was stupid and childish and many of you feel insulted with the way he talks about Gila.
I'll have to teach him a lesson :nunu:
Hehe it's ok Tony29. I know its joke from Drul.
The 'gay' part is excessive, I think. :)
sorry mate :respect: I didn't mean anything....and certainly not that Gila is literally gay :p155: I just meant that Gila isn't the best that's all.
No, problemo mate! I know that means not really gay but it sounds so excessive, IMO. Even Ibrahim Ba, I can't say he is gay. :)
Some of what you say is just one way of looking at it.
All is very solid and most of all I will be proved right.
All rumours to other clubs are dead
So is the rumour of him to our club. Inter & Chelsea are still linked to him when the papers decide to do so.
Read our official site now and then and check Gazzetta dello sport, the most reliable site around. Rumours are hardly dead and they are more than rumours... As for the other clubs it is just the usual "they are interested", without any basis whatsoever.
The rumours to other clubs we saw before was not solid in any way.
Chelsea made an offer i believe.
Allegedly made an offer which was higher than his buyout clause, no club in the world is that stupid. It was a media fabrication.
His agent came here, that is comfirmed.
His agent also went to London, that was also confirmed.
Really, I never saw that. You got any link? Not that I don't trust you, I just don't trust most media when they put out classics like "Berlusconi met Terim in Cuba" :howler:
He fits the profile for one of our transfers.
This is true, but as Chelsea & Inter (clubs who buy without profile most of the time) are the others linked, this is irrelevant to their needs.
ForInter I would agree, but not for Chelsea, they don't fit them at all. but imagine this, Inter not only really can't afford him, they also can't buy any more non-eu this year.
Ancelotti went to see him personally and is said to have given him the stamp of approval.
I'm sure plenty of other scouts and managers have seen him also. Plus Mourinho, Mancini & Moratti have spoken about him just like Ancelotti has. I can look in a shop window, it doesn't mean i've bought the goods.
Ancelotti don't go around looking at player just for fun. In fact this was the first time ever I heard of him going like this to watch a player.
His age and non-eu status are the reason he is not being presented yet.
Why is this the case? Why be so secretive about sealing his deal. Surely all you'd have to say is that we've signed him and that he'll be joining us after he's 18.
Because we may not sign him this summer/january as we may take in someone else right now. Also, it is possible we may not get him before january due to his age and clubs do not officially present players before they are at the club with a shirt and a medical.
and... I have a feeling we are waiting for Ronaldinho to get his passport and with that will know if we can bring in Pato this season.
So liked i said, for me your views are definately a way of looking at things, but it's only 1 way. Fans from other clubs could probably just as easily make up a similar list to suit their needs and make it look like things are in their favour.
All will be revealed shortly :D
Personally I think all these things together is as clear as it can ever get without a official confirmation. You are free to disagree of course.
Actually only thing missing is comments from Pato, real comments. As it is I ahrdly seen media fabricated comments from him, to my huge surprise.
Bye bye robben :kap:
Source: goal.com or bbc if you like.
No heavy links with him...just another top player 'unworthy' of playing for our perfect and complete squad :wallbang:
:D
zlatanov
18-07-2007, 10:19
if he was worthy of playing for Milan, Chelski wouldn't be buying Malouda and getting rid of Robben, would they? :)
Stezagud
18-07-2007, 10:44
If Milan Lab has developed personality transplant technology then Robben would be a great signing, otherwise let Real have his undeniable talent and moodswings :cool:
looks like a return to the bad old days for Real, getting rid of a disclipinarian manager and restarting the process of buying as many ego driven indivdualists as they can. If i was Craig Bellamy's agent i'd be kicking myself now as he would have been a shoe in to star in a 3 man strikeforece with Cassano and Robben :D
More worrying is the link to Baptista :eek: He may have scored vs Argentina but they made a mistake in backing off him. As soon as defenders know how bad he is when pressured he would never get near the ball in serie A.
Warro Bantan
18-07-2007, 10:51
Ho hum..another slow rumor day...nothing on channel4, nothing on the Guardian...none of the Italian papers have anything of note on Milan...sounds like the perfect day to get R10! :D
^ that's my point exactly. Robben is no saint. He's a pain in the Inter :D but surely he's no worse than cASSano...and would be far more useful than Baptista (my post came after the Baptista link)
Warro Bantan
18-07-2007, 11:02
Hold on!! Breaking news from todays edition of theGuardian´s Rumor Mill:
That said, Milan, still smarting after having bids rejected for Ronaldinho, Samuel Eto'o, Didier Drogba, Andriy Shevchenko, Alexandre Pato, Peter Crouch, Micky Quinn, Gordon Ramsay, the Mill and a packet of Mentos, :haha: have now finally settled their own gaze on The Beast. Which is rather foolish really, given that Sampdoria's infinitely more promising Fabio Quagliarella can't stop banging on about how much he'd like to play for them. These rumor mill guys...what can I say...classic!
zlatanov
18-07-2007, 11:03
Ho hum..another slow rumor day...nothing on channel4, nothing on the Guardian...none of the Italian papers have anything of note on Milan...sounds like the perfect day to get R10! :D
how can you get someone that's already yours? :diablo:
Warro Bantan
18-07-2007, 11:08
Sorry, I meant perfect day to reveal that he is a Milan player!!
Lol at that article, Warro :)
They made 2 mistakes, though. Quagliarella is an Udinese player, not Sampdoria. And he said he's ready to walk to Turin if Juve wants him, he didn't say anything about Milan !
Personally I think all these things together is as clear as it can ever get without a official confirmation. You are free to disagree of course.
Like i said before, this is just your take on things and i think anyone who has enough time on their hands can construct a list that puts their club in pole position.
I didn't realise i needed your permission to have a different opinion.
GilAttack [11]
18-07-2007, 11:35
Marca says Milan will offer 50M euros for Eto'o.
Warro Bantan
18-07-2007, 11:37
Marca...the most noble of newspapers...a paragon of virtue, truth, honesty and integrity...but GilAttack[11] on such a slow "rumor" day, any tit-bit is appreciated
:respect:
Hasan Rossonero
18-07-2007, 11:42
Milan: arriva Tevez?
18.07.2007 12.54 di Ilario Imparato articolo letto 10045 volte
Fonte: SKY TV
In mattinata il nome era quello di Eto'o, adesso invece sembra Tevez il colpo da favola rossonero. Il talento argentino dovrebbe essere il sesto uomo indicato da Galliani ma l'operazione appare comunque complicata e costosa, sia dal punto di vista contrattuale che dal punto di vista patrimoniale. Nella lotta per Tevez il Milan sembra però messo bene, pare che i rossoneri siano comunque in Pole Position anche con i rivali del Manchester United che, ad inizio estate, erano stati i primi a richiedere i servigi del nazionale argentino.
http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/index.php?action=read&id=68022
Warro Bantan
18-07-2007, 11:52
Thanks Hasan....seems the plot thickens...
Would love to have Tevez joining our club, but having read where FIFA has been approached by Man U to resolve the protracted purchase, I dont see how we could realistically hijack that move, and steal the player...
http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,2129162,00.html
Hasan Rossonero
18-07-2007, 11:58
Thanks Hasan....seems the plot thickens...
Would love to have Tevez joining our club, but having read where FIFA has been approached by Man U to resolve the protracted purchase, I dont see how we could realistically hijack that move, and steal the player...
http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,2129162,00.html
Yeah seems very unlikely.
However, if FIFA rules that Man U have to deal with West Ham, and the latter decide to do business with us (plausible even if not probable) then it could happen.
In that case, we would have the upper hand as we're willing to offer cash rather than a loan deal. But then United may also do the same...
Yeah seems very unlikely.
However, if FIFA rules that Man U have to deal with West Ham, and the latter decide to do business with us (plausible even if not probable) then it could happen.
In that case, we would have the upper hand as we're willing to offer cash rather than a loan deal. But then United may also do the same...
It seems very unlikely to me that this move will happen.
Also, I'm afraid Tevez would prefer Man U over us.
I didn't realise i needed your permission to have a different opinion.
I didn't say you had my permission, its just that I can't stop you from expressing it.
Hm, if I got back those admin abilities.
Sorry, out of topic. Is there already a thread of UEFA European Cup U-19?
Gabriel489
18-07-2007, 12:23
SO now it is Tevez.
Man o Man, rumors never stop.
As for Robben, sounds like a match made in Heaven with Real.
Lets see, big ego, playing for himself, great skills and a cry baby.
He fits the bill of a Real player.
Seriously, watch the u-20 WC to check out our future striker....Erwin 'Jimmy' Hoffmann! Also enjoy the commentator call Austria 'Australia' a bunch of times. When i lived there, they had these great t-shirts that said 'There are no Kangaroos in Austria'.
Ok, back to reality. Tevez isn't going to come here, Man U are going to get him. There is weird stuff going on with that transfer, which I think is going to lead to the Hammers being relegated...they and the muppets from the FA f'd this one up royally.
Pato is seeming more and more likely to me...don't know why, but it's this fuzzy feeling I have. Robben is a PITA and should not come, although I do like the idea of us getting a real out and out winger. I get so nervous when I watch our oldsters marauding down the line, or when Janku plonks a cross into the nets in front of the curva sud and a winger might actually be able to fulfil that role.
Why can't we get Royston Drenthe-MVB should have a nice chat with him and tell him about the Milan family, and he and seedorf can have a nice chat about caring for dreadlocks. Although I don't think he'll move until next year (which is cool since Feyenoord look like they could compete finally).
As I ponder the people that Milan could bring in, it somehow just makes me want to stick with our crew and leave it at that. We've got so many awesome players, and for such a dismal start to the season they really came through. Plus, everyone has had a good rest this summer.
It might be a good time to bring one or two of the primaver's in and blood them a bit. I for one am really getting itchy for the football to be back-damn those italian fa and not starting the season early!
Graeme C
18-07-2007, 12:36
kinda makes me wonder if they did any scouting at all before the window opened. And if there was a what if scenario if we didnt win the champ league again. There gona have to put money into the squad at some point.
Hasan Rossonero
18-07-2007, 12:38
I like to think that the serenity with which Galliani gives interviews means that a deal has been hammered out for someone. I really have a feeling that someone is Ronaldinho.
Laporta has been very emphatic about Eto'o staying, but appears tepid when asked about Dinho.
It will all become clear when Barcelona start training in earnest.
I think our management's priorities are as follows:
1) Renew Kaka's contract
2) Dinho (who will become an EU citizen on August 31)/Secure Pato for January
3) If Dinho front looks bleak, then go for Quagliarella
King tiger
18-07-2007, 12:41
http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=356683
man , imagine figo as midfielder in his 70's :zany:
GilAttack [11]
18-07-2007, 12:45
Yeah seems very unlikely.
However, if FIFA rules that Man U have to deal with West Ham, and the latter decide to do business with us (plausible even if not probable) then it could happen.
In that case, we would have the upper hand as we're willing to offer cash rather than a loan deal. But then United may also do the same...
West Ham wants the money, so probably ManU will pay some money to them and settle this. But other than that, I dont see how ManU has a case here since Tevez has a contract in place with West Ham and the Hammers have the option to keep him.
Dude, West Ham didn't pay 1 cent for Tevez. He and Mascherano are MSI players. Kia's illegal company or whatever the crap that thing is. All i know is that everything beging MSI is ILLEGAL. Tevez ruined his carrer by transfering to Corinthians a couple of years ago. now Kia has complete control over him. at least till the **** get arrested or something.
GilAttack [11]
18-07-2007, 13:30
Dude, West Ham didn't pay 1 cent for Tevez. He and Mascherano are MSI players. Kia's illegal company or whatever the crap that thing is. All i know is that everything beging MSI is ILLEGAL. Tevez ruined his carrer by transfering to Corinthians a couple of years ago. now Kia has complete control over him. at least till the **** get arrested or something.
But West Ham has a contract in place with the option to keep Tevez. Who cares if Kia owns Tevez' economic rights? There is a contract in place that Kia agreed back then.
Kaka--7thUCL
18-07-2007, 13:44
I like to think that the serenity with which Galliani gives interviews means that a deal has been hammered out for someone. I really have a feeling that someone is Ronaldinho.
Laporta has been very emphatic about Eto'o staying, but appears tepid when asked about Dinho.
It will all become clear when Barcelona start training in earnest.
I think our management's priorities are as follows:
1) Renew Kaka's contract
2) Dinho (who will become an EU citizen on August 31)/Secure Pato for January
3) If Dinho front looks bleak, then go for Quagliarella
Yeah I agree and a hopeful for us fans would also be a young striker and someone to replace maldini/a few defenders and a goalkeeper.
Kaka--7thUCL
18-07-2007, 14:11
Apparently we're on the verge of putting in an offer for Mancini (roma winger) .. Could just be tribal bs though.
Hasan Rossonero
18-07-2007, 14:21
Milan, il colpo a sorpresa è Cavani
18.07.2007 20.13 di Christian Seu articolo letto 1 volte
Fonte: Stadionews.it
Colpo si scena nel mercato in entrata del Milan.
Sarebbe il rosanero Edison Cavani, il "nome nuovo" di Adriano Galliani per l’attacco nella prossima stagione.
La notizia dell’interessamento dei rossoneri per Cavani è stata diffusa stasera da Sky Sport. Secondo altre indiscrezioni, emissari del club milanista avrebbero già incontrato i procuratori di Cavani, Pierpaolo Triulzi e Claudio Anellucci.
Tra domani e venerdi arriverà invece l’offerta del Milan al Palermo che sembra essere di 9 milioni di Euro.
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tuttmercato
In short: Milan may land Cavani of Palermo. They will offer Palermo 9 million.
Cavani is also non-EU.
Very strong and powerful player. But he's a typical striker even though people compare him to Ibrahimovic ( who, unlike Cavani, can play SS role). Good in the air and on the ground.
Just to address the Tevez contract...West Ham originally had a third-party agreement with kia (who has the economic rights) and west ham paid nothing for tevez and mascherano. which might make some people say well how did a pretty second-rate team get these two mega-stars? and basically it was that they'd be in west ham for a year (sorta like a loan to shop them to the big boys) and then they would move on. but the fa said 3rd party ownership is illegal....so, west ham UNILATERALY tore up the contract with kia. now do you think kia is going to take that? no. he is basically giving away 30 million pounds to west ham. i don't think so. the FA screwed up big-time. I'm no lawyer (but my wife is) and even i know that you can't unilateraly tear up a contract. i mean, i might want to tear up my mortgage contract and tell the bank to get bent, then sell my house and pocket all the money. that is what west ham is essentially trying to do.
Kia is a slime, 3rd party agreements are very usual in south america, and the FA dropped it on this one. west ham should not have had tevez for the last 3 games i believe, and they should be relegated. somebody's ass is going to get grilled at the FA and west ham WON'T go down, but it's a pretty ugly situation i think.
how does this affect milan's mercato? well, i think we should watch out for 'bad seeds' like kia (who has an arrest warrant out for him in brazil for other shady dealings) and stick to nice boys.
zlatanov
18-07-2007, 14:39
Cavani is also non-EU.
Very strong and powerful player. But he's a typical striker even though people compare him to Ibrahimovic ( who, unlike Cavani, can play SS role). Good in the air and on the ground.
I don't have the article in front of me now but I think Galliani said "extra-communitario" which I think in "serie A" langiage is dif than non-EU.
Cavani is non-EU player but is NOT extra-communitario since he alread plays for an Italian team.
He is a young player though, still in the making, not much dif than Pato, although a bit older (20 yo) ... so, I kind of doubt this is the striker they have been talking about (and he is also a bit too similar to Pippo and Gila).
I don't have the article in front of me now but I think Galliani said "extra-communitario" which I think in "serie A" langiage is dif than non-EU.
Cavani is non-EU player but is NOT extra-communitario since he alread plays for an Italian team.
He is a young player though, still in the making, not much dif than Pato, although a bit older (20 yo) ... so, I kind of doubt this is the striker they have been talking about (and he is also a bit too similar to Pippo and Gila).
Ohh, yes, mistake. I totally forgot you'd be getting him from an Italian team.
As for his qualities, it would be a shame to miss on a potential like Cavani. He may be 20 but looks at least 5 years older, both physically and tactically. If Milan buy a top star+ Cavani then a huge job has been done attacking wise.
Hasan Rossonero
18-07-2007, 15:06
His scoring record doesn't seem very good.
Cavani is only 20, and he didn't play the entire season. I have no doubt that he will become a great goalscorer.
GilAttack [11]
18-07-2007, 15:17
Just to address the Tevez contract...West Ham originally had a third-party agreement with kia (who has the economic rights) and west ham paid nothing for tevez and mascherano. which might make some people say well how did a pretty second-rate team get these two mega-stars? and basically it was that they'd be in west ham for a year (sorta like a loan to shop them to the big boys) and then they would move on. but the fa said 3rd party ownership is illegal....so, west ham UNILATERALY tore up the contract with kia. now do you think kia is going to take that? no. he is basically giving away 30 million pounds to west ham. i don't think so. the FA screwed up big-time. I'm no lawyer (but my wife is) and even i know that you can't unilateraly tear up a contract. i mean, i might want to tear up my mortgage contract and tell the bank to get bent, then sell my house and pocket all the money. that is what west ham is essentially trying to do.
Kia is a slime, 3rd party agreements are very usual in south america, and the FA dropped it on this one. west ham should not have had tevez for the last 3 games i believe, and they should be relegated. somebody's ass is going to get grilled at the FA and west ham WON'T go down, but it's a pretty ugly situation i think.
how does this affect milan's mercato? well, i think we should watch out for 'bad seeds' like kia (who has an arrest warrant out for him in brazil for other shady dealings) and stick to nice boys.
Problem is that if Kia and Manchester get their way, they should punish West Ham since they would be admitting some wrong-doing. I mean, what would your reaction be like if your side was relegated last season because Tevez was a big factor for West Ham?
Thats why I say that getting Tevez out from the Premier League is the best for all the parties involved, at least West Ham & Premier League.
zlatanov
18-07-2007, 15:17
His scoring record doesn't seem very good.
I don't know his club record before he came to Palermo but in the U-20 championships I have seen him - the one for South AMerican teams and the WC currently going on - he was always one of the top scorers in those tournaments and regular on the scoring sheets.
For Palermo his record was pretty good too before he got injured and Palermo fell into that slump of form they had in the second half of the season.
The one thing he seems to guarantee IMo is goals Trezeguet-style - the player Cavani reminds me of - and players like that are always an asset.
What I don't understand however is how we are gonna utilize him in one team with Gila and Pippo and how Cavani's purchase (if it happens that is) would affect our intentions about Pato - two young and inexperienced strikers at Milan is something I don't see happening to be honest.
His scoring record doesn't seem very good.
Early to say that. He came to Palermo as a 19 years old kid and he was coming on in second half mostly. On 8 matches he did score 2 goals and he was usually playing for 30 minutes or so.
In Uruguay i can see he scored 13 goals in 30 matches but don't forget he was 18/19 back then.
He was spotted by Juve and Milan scouts in u-20 SA Championship where he was the top scorer, leaving Pato behind him. When everyone expected him to end up in Juve, Palermo suprisingly bought him.
In the u-20 WC (the championship that is still on) he was playing really good but he couldn't have done everything alone and his team was eliminated in the 2nd round. He scored only 2 goals in 4 matches, but it still was half of the goals his team scored.
In a great team like Milan, i'm sure this kid will turn out to be a goal machine and a perfect replacement for Inzaghi.
GilAttack [11]
18-07-2007, 15:20
I said in one of my previous posts that Cavani was the best foward in the last South American U-20 tournament (better than Pato, for example).
He scored some nice goals for Palermo this season and he has indeed a bright future ahead of him.
30 games
13 goals for Danubio. But, he didn't play on a regular base.
Hasan Rossonero
18-07-2007, 15:24
@zlat and Tony29
Thanks for the information. I've only seen him play a few times.
hitmannq8
18-07-2007, 15:24
I've seen Cavani play a couple of games last year and one game infront of me at the U-20 WC, I was impressed in all occasions with how he keeps the ball up. He has some skill and can assist but he is more of a centre-forward when he plays for his NT. For Palermo he plays as a second striker, he is not the same player as Trez/Pippo, maybe a bit more like Gila (the Parma one).
He is good but no way he will fulfill the ambition the management have been showing this summer. I'd rather gamble on Pato even though Cavani is more of a guarantee. Its almost like Roulette at home...oops i meant the casino.. Cavani is like betting on red or black, and therefore you win the amount you bet, but with Pato you are betting on only one number out of the 36, a lesser chance of success but if you hit that number you get x36 of your bet (just like how Kaka worked out for us)
Cavani is more of a garantee than Pato?
I doubt that.
He is good but no way he will fulfill the ambition the management have been showing this summer. I'd rather gamble on Pato even though Cavani is more of a guarantee. Its almost like Roulette at home...oops i meant the casino.. Cavani is like betting on red or black, and therefore you win the amount you bet, but with Pato you are betting on only one number out of the 36, a lesser chance of success but if you hit that number you get x36 of your bet (just like how Kaka worked out for us)
Nice, nice :5ok:
I must tell you that sooner or later you'll be accusing me of plagiarism. I will use this in another forum :grinser:
Graeme C
18-07-2007, 15:30
would prefer Quagliarella hes the type of player we need, not more inzaghi-gila type players. plus cavani has just come off a injury..
Now I ask, people said that Vagner Love is not for Milan calibre, And now people are all good about Cavani. We have like 3 players in the same style as Cavani. We need a SECOND FOWARD. let it be Quagli, whatever. Love is like, 10 times better than him though.
Hasan Rossonero
18-07-2007, 15:35
Quagliarella would be an awesome signing. I hope it pans out for us.
The guy is 23 and already played in 7 clubs. haha
Makedonac
18-07-2007, 15:41
[/QUOTE]but with Pato you are betting on only one number out of the 36, a lesser chance of success but if you hit that number you get x36 of your bet (just like how Kaka worked out for us)[/QUOTE]
I agree totaly :5ok: And I also think that Pato is better
Hasan Rossonero
18-07-2007, 15:45
The guy is 23 and already played in 7 clubs. haha
A lot of players in Italy have gone through many clubs. I don't think it's a sign of weakness. He is versatile, and that is one of the prized assets at Milan.
Love is not 10 times better than Quagliarella. Come on man...
GilAttack [11]
18-07-2007, 15:49
Cavani > Vagner Love
IMO.
Me > Cavani > Vagner Love
IMO
:delol:
Warro Bantan
18-07-2007, 15:59
Re: Cavani
So we are now linked with yet another player. I wonder what the total will be if we dont buy anyone by the end of July?
Probably somewhere in the region of 20 to 30 players, at the rate the press is speculating. :rollani:
I wont get caught up in their mind games though...they want articles for their audience, who are all going through (some more so than others) "live football withdrawal" and as such, they have to fill the column inches somehow...cant blame them, but I am not going to believe one word I read, until the unveiling, June 26th I think it is? Or thereabouts at any rate.
']Cavani > Vagner Love
IMO.
We talk about Milan guys.....
Hasan Rossonero
18-07-2007, 16:03
Re: Cavani
So we are now linked with yet another player. I wonder what the total will be if we dont buy anyone by the end of July?
Probably somewhere in the region of 20 to 30 players, at the rate the press is speculating. :rollani:
I wont get caught up in their mind games though...they want articles for their audience, who are all going through (some more so than others) "live football withdrawal" and as such, they have to fill the column inches somehow...cant blame them, but I am not going to believe one word I read, until the unveiling, June 26th I think it is? Or thereabouts at any rate.
Yep. June 26, 2008. :grinser:
']Cavani > Vagner Love
IMO.Well, i doubt that you watched one entire game with Vagner in the pitch. What you just typed is an absurd.
A lot of players in Italy have gone through many clubs. I don't think it's a sign of weakness. He is versatile, and that is one of the prized assets at Milan.
Love is not 10 times better than Quagliarella. Come on man...maybe 8 times then... lol
GilAttack [11]
18-07-2007, 16:40
Well, i doubt that you watched one entire game with Vagner in the pitch. What you just typed is an absurd.
Yeah, you are right! Lets talk again in 10 years and see what Cavani and Vagner Love have done.
zlatanov
18-07-2007, 17:07
Inter after Wayne Rooney:
http://www.longlivesoccer.com/rumours.php
Milan used to be able to make such transfers happen :(
bye, bye Rooney :kap:
:grinser:
Hasan Rossonero
18-07-2007, 17:31
Inter after Wayne Rooney:
http://www.longlivesoccer.com/rumours.php
Milan used to be able to make such transfers happen :(
bye, bye Rooney :kap:
:grinser:
:ilol: :ilol:
The shabbiness of that site is hilarious!
:ilol: :ilol:
The shabbiness of that site is hilarious!
Now I know where Zlat gets his sources from, I cant wait for R10 lol.
GilAttack [11]
18-07-2007, 20:11
I would keep an eye on Riquelme until he joins a new team. Not that he is the best fit here or I want him to join Milan.
Bosniaco
18-07-2007, 20:34
If we wanted Cavan we should have gone for him before Palermo did. Now we gona pay him more ofcourse. It sucks that names like Qualag...( however you spell his name) Wagner Love, Baptista and some others are mentioned in Milan. We will see what happens...
If we wanted Cavan we should have gone for him before Palermo did. Now we gona pay him more ofcourse.
You couldn't have done that.
Cavani is a non-EU player, he was playing in Uruguay at the time and your non-EU place was taken by Oliviera.
You could have bought him and loan him to a minor team but it was a risk both for Milan and Cavani. On the other hand Palermo payed good money for him, they were going strong in serie A and he had more chances to suceed in Palermo than in Milan, who have just bought Ronaldo.
maybe 8 times then... lol
Last season quagliarella was clearly better than VagnerL. I doubt we are in for Cavani too, we don't have space for both him and Pato with the strikers we already have.
No one knows who we're after!
Tha Gazetta says Galliani is in Barcelona after Etoo and Tuttosport says Ronaldinho will be a Milan player soon. Makes you wonder if anyone has an idea of what we're doing.
if anyone has an idea of what we're doing.
Lets hope Galliani and Berlu have :1five:
hitmannq8
19-07-2007, 06:14
Sometimes I have to think twice and even thrice just to convince myself that they do have an idea what they're doing.
bye bye Vieri (http://www.goal.com/en/articolo.aspx?contenutoid=357133) :kap:
I know this would have been Galliani's dream re-transfer :zany:
Helooooooooooooooo Eto'o (http://www.goal.com/en/articolo.aspx?contenutoid=357219) :5ok:
Helooooooooooooooo Eto'o (http://www.goal.com/en/articolo.aspx?contenutoid=357219) :5ok:
Great news. :p017:
Makedonac
19-07-2007, 06:39
Did barca agree to sell eto`o?
rumours:
-emerson
-dinhio
-baptista
-pato
-eto'o
-sheva
-drogba
-tevez
-Quagliarella
-vagner love
i hope for: baptista and pato :grinser:
:cry: Bye Bye Eto'o (http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=357357) :kap:
Makedonac
19-07-2007, 07:44
:cry: Bye Bye Eto'o (http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=357357) :kap:
I hope this year we will say welcome Pato, welcome David Villa, welcome R Rossi :respect:
MiamiMilanista
19-07-2007, 07:55
Pato scored twice last night as Internacional beat Corinthians...pretty quick return after U-20
Off the topic, I just want to brag a little :D
http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=356971
Champions League Qualifiers Wrap: Sarajevo Soar
Marsaxlokk FC 0-6 FK Sarajevo
Sarajevo look near-certainties to take on KRC Genk in the next qualifying round after demolishing their Maltese hosts. They were three up after just 20 minutes through Admir Rašcic, who struck twice, and Emir Obuća. Marko Maksimović added a fourth for the Bosnians before a first-half floodlight failure. But the power was restored in both senses as Sarajevo made it five with Obuća's second. A Malcolm Licari own goal made it a memorable debut for Marsaxlokk - for all the wrong reasons.
that's my team :)
The part that worries me the most is our lack of movement in the transfer market.
As I have stated before I would be more than happy with us not doing anything on the market as long as we kept Kaka. Fair enough Galliani has jetted to Barca however I have this gut feeling that if we dont do much on the market Kaka will re-consider his position. I think if he ever gets the feeling that we arent going for good players - or any players he could ask for a move away which would really affect the team (which has just about recovered from the massive loss of Sheva last year). To show Kaka, the rest of the Milan team and us fans that we mean business I hope Berlu & Galliani have a few tricks up their sleeves.
Off the topic, I just want to brag a little :D
that's my team :)
Dont know why your bragging for, I bet you must be over the moon knowing that Milan wont have to play you in the qualifying round as we have won the CL cup and are straight into the group stages :bri:
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