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Milany
02-12-2007, 08:12
well pato may be good, but on the other hand he may not. he is still young , we need a new striker.................... BYEBYE R99.

martin
02-12-2007, 09:28
well pato may be good, but on the other hand he may not. he is still young , we need a new striker.................... BYEBYE R99.
he may be good, he may be not? your really going out on a limb there. the man who sees both sides sees nothing. im sure that pato will be good, even though nothing is for sure in soccer. i totally agree about ronaldo, what a headache. a huge waste of time to deal with his weekly antics and gave us the false illusion that we had a rejuvanated starting striker. as far as trading simic for ivanovic, i hope theres cash involved, otherwise it might be a tad hard to make it happen.

zlatanov
02-12-2007, 09:47
he may be good, he may be not? your really going out on a limb there. the man who sees both sides sees nothing. im sure that pato will be good, even though nothing is for sure in soccer. i totally agree about ronaldo, what a headache. a huge waste of time to deal with his weekly antics and gave us the false illusion that we had a rejuvanated starting striker. as far as trading simic for ivanovic, i hope theres cash involved, otherwise it might be a tad hard to make it happen.
not sure who sold you that piece of wisdom but my advice is to ask for your money back before it's too late :D

Milany
02-12-2007, 10:35
not sure who sold you that piece of wisdom but my advice is to ask for your money back before it's too late :D


exactly

and "martin" am just saying that all the hype on pato could lead this kid to drown into pressure. Well, from experiencing oliviera's number 7 run with Milan. All I want to say with Ronaldo's continues injuries, pato unknown ability, and inzaghi's old age(even though hes still super) we desperately need a new striker to part with gila.

Rayno_acm
02-12-2007, 10:55
Sorry guys, I couldn't find this "news" in English :dontkn: so I'll post it in Italian
Shevchenko? Secondo la stampa inglese una squadra nerazzurra ci sta pensando seriamente...
Secondo "News of the World", l'Inter offrirebbe al Chelsea 12 milioni di sterline.

Il tabloid britannico "News of the World", stavolta, ha voluto lasciare il segno sulle proprie pagine.

Sul settimanale inglese, infatti, si legge di una presunta offerta da parte dell'Inter per Shevchenko. La fonte vorrebbe che i nerazzurri, già da gennaio, sarebbero pronti a pagare 12 milioni di sterline al Chelsea per l'attaccante ucraino.

L'arrivo in casa Inter del Pallone D'Oro 2004 , potrebbe fare da contraltare al passaggio al Milan di Ronaldo, mal digerito da buona parte della tifoseria nerazzurra.
Link (http://www.goal.com/it/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=500139)
I would say...WTF?!?... :wth: Sheva in inter? :str:
I know the source is a "tabloid britannico", but... :rollani: I heard from other sources (Bulgarian ones), that Chelsea wants to sell him and the clubs interested are inter and juve... :r7:
This would the silliest move possible. I understand the interistas would love to have our legend to hurt us like we hurt them when we bought Ronaldo. But there is big difference. We bought Ronaldo cuz we needed him. Now inter don't need Sheva, they have 5 strikers, they even released one of them to recover his form. And he's cup-tied. I know Moratti and co are stupid enough :stupid: not to see that difference, but...
Juve also don't need Sheva. They have very strong atackers, and the topscorer of the League. Even their symbol Del Piero often stays on the bench along their young prospect Palladino. :rollani:

It's clear that the team needs Sheva the most is Milan. We lack a striker with his characteristics. Ronaldo is too injury prone. Inzaghi is already 34 and is not very likely that he will play next year. But there's big problem, our non-EU spot for this season is already taken by Pato. So we could bring Sheva back in the next summer.
The best thing for us will be to bring him back, I'd prefer Sheva over Ronaldo any day (Sheva is atleast not so injury prone), Andriy would be perfect back up for Pato :5ok:
So I hope Sheva will be patient enough to wait til next summer... :w221:

Graeme C
02-12-2007, 11:17
i wouldnt mind these attackers next year

Sheva
Pato
Gila
Amauri
Rossi/ Rosina (also can play in Seedorf/ Kaka role)

Stitch
02-12-2007, 16:23
we are going to be 3 games behind when we return after xmas. I think it would be wise buying another striker on top of Pato this winter. If the rumours are true, Milan dont want to extend Ronaldos contract so we could end up selling him to La Galaxy or something just so he doesnt leave us to return to Inter or something stupid like that.

if milan doesn't extend his contract we will not be able to "sell" him to anybody. He can go wherever he wants, including inter.

martin
02-12-2007, 22:00
not sure who sold you that piece of wisdom but my advice is to ask for your money back before it's too late :D
"The man who sees both sides of a question is a man who sees absolutely nothing." - Oscar Wilde should i still ask for the refund?

zlatanov
02-12-2007, 22:23
"The man who sees both sides of a question is a man who sees absolutely nothing." - Oscar Wilde should i still ask for the refund?
... and just because someone tried to look like a misunderstood genious and said it, that makes it necessarily true and even more - applicaple to the case in question?

btw, yeah, you should :)

Kaka--7thUCL
02-12-2007, 23:01
It doesn't matter what happens with ronaldo, he can only be a positive for us, we bought him for near nothing, we can't complain really, instead of blaming ronaldo himself, we should blame management for buying him, because hes definitely worth the money, but we needed an amasing striker , what did you all expect? Anyways, my out look on all this transfer business is that Diego is the future of great footballers, and we should make his future be with milan, ASAP. :27rr:

Rojo y Negro
03-12-2007, 01:11
I agree.

Diego is a great player. He is talented. Great ball skills and vision. He tore Madrid up on his own.

If Diego fits into Ancelotti's plans then Milan should make a move for him in the winter market if possible to avoid a bidding war in the summer market.

I can see him playing with Kaka in the xmas tree formation or on the left side of midfield where Seedorf plays.

Milan need more depth in their squad. Thats there main concern. Then Milan need to address the aging situation. Diego is in his early 20's which would be a start.

As to Milan finding a replacement for Pirlo. I can only think of one man - Fabergas. I know it would cost alot but why should Milan settle for anything less.

Congrats Kaka.
You truely are a great player. I hope you end your career with Milan and become an idol like Maldini.

Milany
03-12-2007, 02:36
yeah right diego, if life was that simple.

am sorry, but I really have lost faith in our management, and really hope that they shut me up and but him, or another world class player.

Tony75
03-12-2007, 02:51
"The man who sees both sides of a question is a man who sees absolutely nothing." - Oscar Wilde should i still ask for the refund?
So you only see success or failure for Pato. When the choices is only yours, then it's a guarantee, but when others have a deciding factor, then who knows.

Rojo y Negro
03-12-2007, 04:58
Our management hows disappointed according to many but the fact is that we are not Madrid nor Chelsea. We are Milan and have been far more successful then both those clubs.

While their fans might be happy at the end of the transfer season they are not when Milan lift yet another UCL title.

dejan.s
03-12-2007, 07:48
I watched AC Milan vs. Juventus and Inter at Fiorentina games, over the weekend.
Inter won, AC Milan could not score :-(
What was the difference?!
In my opinion, Ibrahimovic :-)
He made two assists.
AC Milan should find player, forward, who will be able to make assist and score, when he has opportunity.
Now AC Milan, have forwards, Gilla, Inzaghi, who are not able to create chances for others. Probably, if they have that kind of partner upfront, they will score more often, especially Gilla.

Milany
03-12-2007, 09:10
Our management hows disappointed according to many but the fact is that we are not Madrid nor Chelsea. We are Milan and have been far more successful then both those clubs.

While their fans might be happy at the end of the transfer season they are not when Milan lift yet another UCL title.

ya i know, but what if we hadn't kaka last year, do you honestly think that we'd win the champions league, i really don't think so.

And do these players, that really need to be swapped ever contributed with our glory:-

1)simic
2)favali
3)Serginho
4)Brochi
5)Cafu

Even, Emerson didn't help Madrid much with their win .

i am not taking any credit from these players, they were amazing, and international standard champions, but Milan is more bigger than any player we want to thank for their performances.

All i am saying, a couple of good transfers, isn't much to ask for a huge team like our beloved Milan. Not 8 players a year(INTER,MADRID), but 2 or 3 max; young,exp., and ofcorse a world class player.

I hope you understand what i am saying.

Bosniaco
03-12-2007, 13:57
I think that Montolivo plays the same positions as Pirlo and a good replacment for Kaka ( if Diego is not avaliable) is Mati Fernandez from Villareal. :)

Dr Milano
03-12-2007, 15:01
The Sheva Spec Begin again !!! :sagrin: :2dri: :sagrin:


Chelsea set Sheva fee
Chelsea are prepared to allow former Milan striker Andrei Shevchenko to leave in January for a fee of £12m, according to English reports. The Ukrainian captain arrived from Milan for a record £31m just 18 months ago, but he has rarely featured in the first team. It is reported that he will be heading back to Italy with Milan, Juve and Inter all said to be interested. Shevchenko would reportedly take a pay cut from his £140,000-a-week wages to help secure a move back to Serie A.

Source : http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/angloangle.html

forward
03-12-2007, 15:34
I am still very sceptical about this Sheva move, but if he did come it would be SO AWESOME :5ok: :5ok: :5ok:

just think of it, Milan gets a striker they seriously need; Sheva should be pretty motivated after such move... and best of all

Chelsea goes -20 mil £ in 1.5 year :)

if the management can pull this off - I will go like :3band:

Stitch
03-12-2007, 16:23
nope. don't like traitors. stay away you and your b*tch, let your kid learn english.

Giorgos
03-12-2007, 16:29
I watched AC Milan vs. Juventus and Inter at Fiorentina games, over the weekend.
Inter won, AC Milan could not score :-(
What was the difference?!
In my opinion, Ibrahimovic :-)
He made two assists.
AC Milan should find player, forward, who will be able to make assist and score, when he has opportunity.
Now AC Milan, have forwards, Gilla, Inzaghi, who are not able to create chances for others. Probably, if they have that kind of partner upfront, they will score more often, especially Gilla.

I agree especially for the case of Gila when he was playing along Sheva, he was much more better.

forward
03-12-2007, 16:31
the world isn't always white or black
do you believe in fate?
his return and a possibility of great performance/substantial help to the club would be a much more memorable for the history of the club than if he would stay originally..
we tend to take for granted what we have, and learn about things in comparison (applies to both Sheva and the fans)

still we are merely fantasizing here...

Kaka--7thUCL
03-12-2007, 17:27
i dont want shevchenko back hes useless and past his peek im telling you all, diego and alves are the futureeeee

e-Milan
03-12-2007, 18:43
could milan buy shev back this january ? i mean, isn't he still a non-EU player ?

jtelly
03-12-2007, 19:46
for any of you 'American Psycho' fans, by Bret Easton Ellis...I think the most appropriate response to the Sheva rumors would be, in the immortal words of Patrick Bateman..."Just....say....no."

martin
03-12-2007, 21:56
... and just because someone tried to look like a misunderstood genious and said it, that makes it necessarily true and even more - applicaple to the case in question?

btw, yeah, you should :)
nothing is for sure true, i never said it was true. i simply presented a point of view. also, saying pato might be good, or he might be bad is like saying nothing because it is self evident. but since i started this all with my sarcasm, i'll end it too. two wrongs don't make a right ( should i ask for a refund for this one too zlat? ;) )

Rayno_acm
03-12-2007, 23:40
i dont want shevchenko back hes useless and past his peek im telling you all, diego and alves are the futureeeee
And which one of those players you mentioned "for the futureeeee" is a striker?!?! :rollani:
Cuz as I see our biggest problem is the attack... :rollani:

slicknick
04-12-2007, 01:56
Hope we get either Breno or Havard Nordtveit as a back up for the defence...
And as a striker, Amauri could be an OK options till the end of this season...
However, for summer mercato, I've got different expectations(A WORLD CLASS STRIKER :w221:), as we will need more than short term investments :5ok:

slicknick
04-12-2007, 02:02
And a combative Midfielder to cover for Rino&Ambro, as well as a creative playmaker as a back up for Pirlo, who can play as deep down as he can...AND THE LIST GOES ON AND ON...

Rayno_acm
04-12-2007, 04:15
And a combative Midfielder to cover for Rino&Ambro, as well as a creative playmaker as a back up for Pirlo, who can play as deep down as he can...AND THE LIST GOES ON AND ON...
Easy to be said... :rollani: :pp18:

Nalx
05-12-2007, 06:13
There's a rumour at goal.com that Juve is trying to borrow Sheva in January. It will be interesting to see. Personally, I don't like the idea of having Sheva again. Let's look forward to the future: Pato!

Debs
05-12-2007, 07:26
Don't want to make a new thread in case this was posted someplace and I missed it but...

Would this be good or bad for Milan? I'm ready for a change....


Van Basten quits for Milan? Tuesday 4 December, 2007

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Marco Van Basten has confirmed he’ll quit the Dutch team after Euro 2008, which could have major repercussions for Milan’s coaching situation.


The three times Ballon d’Or winner will not be renewing his contract to take charge of Holland, announced director general of the Dutch FA Henk Kesler this evening.


There had been rumours this would be the case, but the news is now official, so the race is on to see which club side Van Basten will move to next.


The main options are Milan and Barcelona, but either decision could have repercussions for Carlo Ancelotti.


It is reported that if Van Basten takes over at Barca, this will free his former Rossoneri teammate Frank Rijkaard to come back to San Siro as Coach.


Euro 2008 is the key turning point here, as if Roberto Donadoni – another member of Il Grande Milan under Arrigo Sacchi – does not impress with Italy in the summer tournament, then Ancelotti is the hot favourite to replace him at the Azzurri.


Van Basten’s management career has been relatively unsuccessful, as he was appointed to Holland in July 2004.


They were eliminated from the 2006 World Cup in the second round by unfancied Portugal in an extraordinarily ill-tempered encounter, while they only qualified for Euro 2008 behind Romania.


Van Basten’s fate is inevitably linked to his adopted homeland, as Holland take on Italy in the ‘Group of Death’ at Euro 2008 along with France and Romania.

http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/dec4o.html

Tony75
05-12-2007, 08:33
Honestly I don't think any of Marciel, Franklin or Roberto have shown enough to succeed Carlo. Our next coach may be someone outside of "the family", if there's nobody in it shown to be good enough. If I get my UEFA Pro Licence in 2 years would they consider me as an option, seeing as I'm a fan, hence part of the family?

Warro Bantan
05-12-2007, 09:09
Ahh Debs...I surely know you are ready..but I think I will stick with Carlo...or rather, that I hope the club sticks with Carlo (almost gave away my secret identity there :D ), as I think with R99 fit, and hopefully with Pato integrating seamlessly into the side, that we will play a different, faster, attacking game than we do at present with only one true striker.

Carlos is proven Debs, and if Barca´s defense is anything to go by, Rijkaard has a lot to learn in that department...

Its Carlo for me, for as long as he wants the job, and importantly, as long as he delivers silverware..say, every other year? I would be satisfied with that.

drucurl
05-12-2007, 09:20
Ahh Debs...I surely know you are ready..but I think I will stick with Carlo...or rather, that I hope the club sticks with Carlo (almost gave away my secret identity there :D ), as I think with R99 fit, and hopefully with Pato integrating seamlessly into the side, that we will play a different, faster, attacking game than we do at present with only one true striker.

Carlos is proven Debs, and if Barca´s defense is anything to go by, Rijkaard has a lot to learn in that department...

Its Carlo for me, for as long as he wants the job, and importantly, as long as he delivers silverware..say, every other year? I would be satisfied with that.
mi ah second meh brethren :D 'im might be a jamaican but 'im ah taaaaaark sense rispek :respect:
Carlo is the most resourceful coach I have ever seen (Spaletti is close too). He made kaka into a striker and Seedorf play all over midfield successfully. He is responsible for the blossoming of Pirlo. He also transformed Gila from a good goalpoacher into a world class waterboy :guw: Most of the top coaches would be lost with our present squad ...even the great Mourinho :cheers:

Debs
05-12-2007, 10:13
Carlos is proven Debs, and if Barca´s defense is anything to go by, Rijkaard has a lot to learn in that department...

Its Carlo for me, for as long as he wants the job, and importantly, as long as he delivers silverware..say, every other year? I would be satisfied with that.

Carlo needs to start showing me something in the LEAGUE. We cannot count on winning CL again this year just so we make it back in there next season, so we'd better start asking some difficult questions like why can't he motivate us in the league? What will we do if we crash out of CL competition and are mid-table or worse by season's end? I've been watching our poor league displays for too long...sorry!

jcastagn
05-12-2007, 10:14
I go back and forth with Carlo. He has delivered in Europe with the champions league twice in three finals, two UEFA Supercups, i would like to see us WAY more competitive in Serie A. It's been three years (i think) since we were anyway close to winning the scudetto. I would like to see Milan winning 2 to 3 scudettos every 5 years on a regular basis. I think Carlo can achieve this with a deeper squad and players of his choosenings.

jpick
05-12-2007, 10:32
I go back and forth with Carlo. He has delivered in Europe with the champions league twice in three finals, two UEFA Supercups, i would like to see us WAY more competitive in Serie A. It's been three years (i think) since we were anyway close to winning the scudetto. I would like to see Milan winning 2 to 3 scudettos every 5 years on a regular basis. I think Carlo can achieve this with a deeper squad and players of his choosenings.

only last year and this one have we been out of contention, the others we were there, 2002/2003 we were third and won the coppa italia to boot (though that was a decent gap), 2003/2004 we rolled serie a, 2004/2005 we played well, but got "beat" to the scudetto by juve (even tony the juve fan admits there were some shenanigans going on there), and then 2005/2006 we were alive until the last matchday or so, but lost out to juventus on a slim margin, another second.

last year, we played horrible in the first half of the year, and really well in the second half (befoe the last few matchdays when we coasted after locking up fourth spot), and then this half-year has been about the poorest yet. so, really carletto has had us not competing well in serie a for two half seasons, one of which we had a points deduction and an injury/morale crisis. he hasn't been that bad in serie a, imo, especially cause last year was easily forgivable, but this season is less so, yet when you look at the squad at his disposal ad then the lack of ronaldo and pato, and the injuries to janks, oddo, serginho, maldini, kaladze, emerson, at various times, and we have had some poor luck losing or drawing games we could have or should have won and some poor calls, etc. i think it is fair to not judge him too harshly on this half-season either, especially cause he was the one who wanted re-enforcements but he was denied.

Warro Bantan
05-12-2007, 10:53
Agreed jpick...based on what he has to work with, we are lucky not to be in the relegation zone!! :D

Debs
05-12-2007, 11:15
Agreed jpick...based on what he has to work with, we are lucky not to be in the relegation zone!! :D

I think you mean we are lucky not to be in the relegation soon any longer. There for a while we were in the bottom 8 or 10.....I didn't count, I couldn't stand looking at the chart that long! :dumpf:

Mr. Anonymous
05-12-2007, 11:57
IMO Carlo stays, when you look at the age of our squad, i'm surprised we're not doing worse.

(I know I've said it in posts before) but Carlos should have been far more assertive in requesting more/younger players for the squad this past summer, cause when we don't get results it's his head that's going to be chopped off first.

Sometimes you have to take a step back before you can go forward. If we fail to catch fourth & don't win Champions League, manangement will have learned a valuable lesson. (that could have been avoided).
(An expensive lesson also, as the lack of revenue that is generated by being in the CL will be lost)
What a price that would be to pay for lack of vision/foresight.
Carlos will be fine with some fresh players.

drucurl
05-12-2007, 12:12
IMO Carlo stays, when you look at the age of our squad, i'm surprised we're not doing worse.

(I know I've said it in posts before) but Carlos should have been far more assertive in requesting more/younger players for the squad this past summer, cause when we don't get results it's his head that's going to be chopped off first.

Sometimes you have to take a step back before you can go forward. If we fail to catch fourth & don't win Champions League, manangement will have learned a valuable lesson. (that could have been avoided).
(An expensive lesson also, as the lack of revenue that is generated by being in the CL will be lost)
What a price that would be to pay for lack of vision/foresight.
Carlos will be fine with some fresh players.
Who's Carlos? :rotfl:

Mr. Anonymous
05-12-2007, 12:33
Who's Carlos? :rotfl:

My Bad I meant Carlo!!! :tong:

I can't believe I did it twice though!!!

HAHAHAHAHA!!!

Giorgos
05-12-2007, 15:02
IMO Carlo stays, when you look at the age of our squad, i'm surprised we're not doing worse.

(I know I've said it in posts before) but Carlos should have been far more assertive in requesting more/younger players for the squad this past summer, cause when we don't get results it's his head that's going to be chopped off first.

Sometimes you have to take a step back before you can go forward. If we fail to catch fourth & don't win Champions League, manangement will have learned a valuable lesson. (that could have been avoided).
(An expensive lesson also, as the lack of revenue that is generated by being in the CL will be lost)
What a price that would be to pay for lack of vision/foresight.
Carlos will be fine with some fresh players.

Kicker supports that Milan agreed with Glandbach for the tranfer of under 21 German Marco Marin to join our team in January or in summer, the call him the new Cristiano Ronaldo :w262: .

Mystik
05-12-2007, 15:23
Kicker supports that Milan agreed with Glandbach for the tranfer of under 21 German Marco Marin to join our team in January or in summer, the call him the new Cristiano Ronaldo :w262: .
Who ? and source ?

Giorgos
05-12-2007, 15:27
"Kicker" .... Marco Marin

lked
05-12-2007, 16:37
Milan Close To Signing 'German Cristiano Ronaldo' AC Milan are closing in on the signature of Borussia Mönchengladbach's Marko Marin, according to Kicker.

The 18-year-old winger is described by some as the 'German Cristiano Ronaldo' and is one of the hottest young prospects currently in circulation.

Marin, who holds a Serbian passport, has played four times for the Germany Under-21 team, scoring one goal.

The youngster has attracted the attention of a host of European clubs, with Fiorentina and Ajax said to be particularly interested.

Milan have been following the Bosnia-born star for some time now, and according to Kicker they are close to coming to an agreement with Mönchengladbach.

It is unclear whether the transfer will go through in January or at the end of the season, although the latter seems more likely.

The Rossoneri have already signed one highly-rated teenager in the form of Brazilian wonderkid Alexandre Pato, who will be available to play after the New Year.

Source : http://goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=504141 (goal.com)

Milany
05-12-2007, 17:25
Ahh Debs...I surely know you are ready..but I think I will stick with Carlo...or rather, that I hope the club sticks with Carlo (almost gave away my secret identity there :D ), as I think with R99 fit, and hopefully with Pato integrating seamlessly into the side, that we will play a different, faster, attacking game than we do at present with only one true striker.

Carlos is proven Debs, and if Barca´s defense is anything to go by, Rijkaard has a lot to learn in that department...

Its Carlo for me, for as long as he wants the job, and importantly, as long as he delivers silverware..say, every other year? I would be satisfied with that.

Dude Its Ok, tell us who you are? :5ok:

anyway, I support Holland, and Van Basten isn't the best coach in town. I would stick with Carlo, at least we are winning something.

PS: i hope rijkaard comes to holland. :respect:

kastriot
05-12-2007, 18:03
I`d stick with Carlo any day, his just perfect for our structure, both players and management(and its not easy to cope with characters like Berlu and Galiani).

Carlo has done great job when u take everything in consideration.
Hypothetically speaking,only one man could have delivered as much or maybe more than Carlo and that is LIPPI, nobody else.

kris
06-12-2007, 02:39
IMO Carlo stays, when you look at the age of our squad, i'm surprised we're not doing worse.

age is not a ability. When you look at the quality of our players then we clearly underperform.

(I know I've said it in posts before) but Carlos should have been far more assertive in requesting more/younger players for the squad this past summer, cause when we don't get results it's his head that's going to be chopped off first.

I am not certain he actually wants younger players, he requested emerson to begin with. He want quality players, like he should want.

Sometimes you have to take a step back before you can go forward. If we fail to catch fourth & don't win Champions League, manangement will have learned a valuable lesson. (that could have been avoided).

Not only will this not happen (missing fourth), but I am sure our management want to do better. Some could say that winning or not winning UCL could make a difference in this case, but it is hard to know.

Tobinho
06-12-2007, 03:01
This is exciting news about Marin, I saw a link on November 21st - I really hope this one comes off.

hitmannq8
06-12-2007, 22:02
i wouldnt bet on it happening..we've seen alot of those "done deals" in recent years.. most recent one being the Tuncay Sanli rumours of last summer, there was also a couple of others like Per Mertesacker and one other defender that i cant recall.

besides, i've never heard of this guy and some german fans tell me he's OK but not a cristiano ronaldo.. if it were up to me i'd go for mohamad zidan of bremen (did he move from there yet?)

kris
07-12-2007, 01:07
Zidan? Isn't he like 28 years old and is still called "a talent", a striker scoring like 5 goals per year.

Tobinho
07-12-2007, 06:02
besides, i've never heard of this guy and some german fans tell me he's OK but not a cristiano ronaldo.. if it were up to me i'd go for mohamad zidan of bremen (did he move from there yet?)

Good thing it's not up to you then! Marin is a good player, dynamic and creative and could certianly add something to our midfield. He's certianly no Christiano Ronaldo yet, but he's still a kid. In 4 years he may reach that level.

Mr. Anonymous
07-12-2007, 12:30
age is not a ability. When you look at the quality of our players then we clearly underperform.



I am not certain he actually wants younger players, he requested emerson to begin with. He want quality players, like he should want.

Not only will this not happen (missing fourth), but I am sure our management want to do better. Some could say that winning or not winning UCL could make a difference in this case, but it is hard to know.

After 5-6 years of having the same car, it's not going to perform as it did when you first bought it.

Ability goes down as age goes up. It can't be avoided. A player can't sustain the same type of play at the highest level for 10 years, for 90 minutes a game. So in that sense, I think they're giving all they can, but its simply not what they were able to give in the past. I'm not blaming them. It's just the truth. They can give what they used to just in small spurts of a game but not for an entire 90 minutes.

It goes without saying that when you want players young or old quality is the primary attribute that you are looking for.

I didn't think that needed to be mentioned.

So now that we agreed on that...IMO a team needs a balance of older experienced players & younger players. Wisdom, experience, & savy on one side..........youthful energy, a desire to win (trophies) & the ability to grow & improve their skill easily on the other. You need both. It's symbiotic. They feed off each other. At this time our team doesn't have this balance.

I said "IF" we miss fourth. I was simply stating the consequences "IF" we were to missed fourth & didn't win the CL this year. Which I know it hard to fathom, but is not out of the realm of possibility.

IMO We need (quailty) youth alongside our experienced veterans.

Therefore, I feel Ancelotti is doing a good job and the team isn't under performing. But performing like that car that we've been driving for 5-6 years expecting it to perform like when we first bought it.

Giorgos
07-12-2007, 15:21
After 5-6 years of having the same car, it's not going to perform as it did when you first bought it.

Ability goes down as age goes up. It can't be avoided. A player can't sustain the same type of play at the highest level for 10 years, for 90 minutes a game. So in that sense, I think they're giving all they can, but its simply not what they were able to give in the past. I'm not blaming them. It's just the truth. They can give what they used to just in small spurts of a game but not for an entire 90 minutes.

It goes without saying that when you want players young or old quality is the primary attribute that you are looking for.

I didn't think that needed to be mentioned.

So now that we agreed on that...IMO a team needs a balance of older experienced players & younger players. Wisdom, experience, & savy on one side..........youthful energy, a desire to win (trophies) & the ability to grow & improve their skill easily on the other. You need both. It's symbiotic. They feed off each other. At this time our team doesn't have this balance.

I said "IF" we miss fourth. I was simply stating the consequences "IF" we were to missed fourth & didn't win the CL this year. Which I know it hard to fathom, but is not out of the realm of possibility.

IMO We need (quailty) youth alongside our experienced veterans.

Therefore, I feel Ancelotti is doing a good job and the team isn't under performing. But performing like that car that we've been driving for 5-6 years expecting it to perform like when we first bought it.

A very good point :5love: .

slicknick
08-12-2007, 08:59
After 5-6 years of having the same car, it's not going to perform as it did when you first bought it.

Ability goes down as age goes up. It can't be avoided. A player can't sustain the same type of play at the highest level for 10 years, for 90 minutes a game. So in that sense, I think they're giving all they can, but its simply not what they were able to give in the past. I'm not blaming them. It's just the truth. They can give what they used to just in small spurts of a game but not for an entire 90 minutes.

It goes without saying that when you want players young or old quality is the primary attribute that you are looking for.

I didn't think that needed to be mentioned.

So now that we agreed on that...IMO a team needs a balance of older experienced players & younger players. Wisdom, experience, & savy on one side..........youthful energy, a desire to win (trophies) & the ability to grow & improve their skill easily on the other. You need both. It's symbiotic. They feed off each other. At this time our team doesn't have this balance.

I said "IF" we miss fourth. I was simply stating the consequences "IF" we were to missed fourth & didn't win the CL this year. Which I know it hard to fathom, but is not out of the realm of possibility.

IMO We need (quailty) youth alongside our experienced veterans.

Therefore, I feel Ancelotti is doing a good job and the team isn't under performing. But performing like that car that we've been driving for 5-6 years expecting it to perform like when we first bought it.

Well said, buddy...You've got some valid points over there...

Rojo y Negro
08-12-2007, 17:09
Milan Close In On Banega Deal
Reports in Italy suggest that AC Milan are very close to completing the signing of Boca Juniors starlet Ever Banega.

The 19-year-old is rated as one of Argentina’s most promising young midfielders and he was a star at his country’s successful FIFA Under-20 World Cup campaign in Canada during the summer.

Banega only made his professional debut for Boca in February of this year, but such was his impact that he was given a standing ovation by La Bombonera crowd in one of his first games for the club.

Last month Milan had a €10m offer for Banega turned down by Boca chairman Mauricio Macri, however the Rossoneri have now returned with an improved offer of €16m.

Banega and Boca Juniors should come face to face with Milan in the final of the FIFA Club World Cup next Sunday.

Negotiations will be carried out in Japan over the coming week, and it is expected that both sides will agree to a deal for Banega to join Milan either in January or in the summer.

The Rossoneri have been linked with a number of youngsters recently, and are also said to be close to signing Borussia Monchengladbach winger Marko Marin, referred to by some as the ‘German Cristiano Ronaldo’.

Reported on Goal.com

++++++++++++++

If these reports are to be believed then one must believe that Banega is something special because its not everyday Milan are willing to spend 16 million euro on youth.

inomilan
08-12-2007, 18:18
i hope dats not another false alarm......

hitmannq8
09-12-2007, 01:18
well, they did spend 20m on Pato a few months ago.. but Banega seems to be another gem, however I find it fishy that it is only goal.com that always talk about Milan and Banega. Goal.com say that their sources are Italian sources, but I have read a few sites (including the biggest rumour mill - calciomercato.com) and I haven't found anything on it yet.

If we are to get Ever (what a cool name eh?) Banega, then I think things will become clearer in the next few days since Galliani/Braida can have a word with Banega and Boca's management. I really dont think that we have it in us to splash big on two unproven (on the big level) youngsters within a year.

And does anyone know if Banega has an EU passport? I think I might have once heard that he may have an Italian or a German one. If he doesn't then I dont think that we will be giving up our Non-EU spot to him next year, seems like we have bigger plans for that spot ;)

mrki
09-12-2007, 09:02
It would be good to buy the boy BEFORE the final gaist Boca :)

Kidding, I've seen him once and he looks promising. Way better than Emerson and Brocchi... It would be nice to have him in january if he has EU passport.

P.S.

Benzema also has EU passport :)

inter-1908
09-12-2007, 10:31
With Ronaldhino being benched lately, it seems as though he will either move to Milan or Chelsea. Every year around this time we here about Dinho to Milan, but no move is ever made. Ronaldhinos agent (brother) said that he is thinking about what move he should make. In the end Milans coice will be about how much, and Ronaldhinos choice will be based on wether the English game or the Italian game is better for him.

Graeme C
09-12-2007, 12:50
bring back nicola Pozzi! lol after todays 4 goals :)

inter-1908
09-12-2007, 16:38
bring back nicola Pozzi! lol after todays 4 goals :)
I think they should aim for some bigger name players than pozzi. Although todays 4 goals was very impressive! :w200: ....he was probably just having a good game.

GilAttack [11]
09-12-2007, 21:55
Two things regarding Banega:

1) Something must be wrong with our management since we always buy brazilian.
2) I repeated many times here that Real Madrid has a first option. So if we pay a decent price, Real Madrid can match our offer and get the player. And since they arent desperate for having him, they may leave him in Argentina for 6 months. On the other side, Gago didnt turn out to be what they expected although he is still young. And adding Banega would somewhat duplicate what Gago brings to the table, although Banega is a better offensive player and has better dribbling skills.

nefremo
09-12-2007, 22:05
Can you please tell me how exactly you know that they have 1st option on Banega. I have never read that anywhere so I'm just curious if that realy is the case.
Another thing is that it was revealed that we made an offer for him during the summer but Boca rejected it because they were asking for nearly double then what we offered. NOWHERE though was Real Madrid mentioned in this thing.

inomilan
10-12-2007, 01:13
']Two things regarding Banega:

1) Something must be wrong with our management since we always buy brazilian.

uhm..Banega isn't Brazilian...he's Argentine ;)

Mystik
10-12-2007, 07:56
uhm..Banega isn't Brazilian...he's Argentine ;)
That's what he means, the chances of us buying him are even slimmer for that reason.

Stitch
10-12-2007, 07:57
have you guys read this?

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=509159

Mourinho Set To Take Over At Milan - Report Reports in the Italian and English press claim that Jose Mourinho will take over as Coach of AC Milan for the start of next season.
Mourinho Set To Take Over At Milan - Report

The ex-Chelsea boss has been out of work since leaving Stamford Bridge by mutual consent in September.



Mourinho had been the favourite to replace the sacked Steve McClaren as manager of the English national team, however the Portuguese tactician is believed to have turned down the Football Association’s job offer.



According to the Gazzetta dello Sport and a number of English tabloids, the reason for this rejection is AC Milan.



Current Rossoneri Coach Carlo Ancelotti is expected to step down at the end of the current season after seven years in charge of the club.



Carletto will become Coach of the Italian national team if current boss Roberto Donadoni fails to impress at Euro 2008.



If the Azzurri have a fine tournament in Austria and Switzerland, and Donadoni keeps his job, Ancelotti could take over at Barcelona, where Frank Rijkaard is also unlikely to last beyond the end of the current campaign.



Either way, this leaves the Milan hotseat available, and Mourinho is believed to have accepted an offer to replace Ancelotti in the summer.



Mourinho's agent Jorge Mendes has further added strength to this story by admitting that his client had a "big job" in the offing, and it was not the England manager's job.



Mourinho has a glittering C.V having won two Premier League titles, one FA Cup, two Portuguese Championships, a Portuguese Cup, a UEFA Cup and a Champions League during his time at Chelsea and Porto.


I'd HATE for this to happen. The article looks like pure speculation, but even an idea of that idiot on the bench of my favourite club scares me :stupid:

go away jerk :5horse:

inomilan
10-12-2007, 08:00
uhm..yeah...but as much as i don't believe it, it's still possible...

Tobinho
10-12-2007, 09:18
Branca has said that Inter are interested in Banega...

Kim
10-12-2007, 14:29
Hey guys ..
i heared more talking about Amuri .. what do u thinking about him ? is he good for milan ? hmmm .. I see he is good player but Rossi or Huntelar better him !!

inter-1908
10-12-2007, 17:26
Hey guys ..
i heared more talking about Amuri .. what do u thinking about him ? is he good for milan ? hmmm .. I see he is good player but Rossi or Huntelar better him !!

He may be a good target for Milan, but im not sure about how much playing time a player like him may recieve seeing that Milan have seedorf, Kaka, Ronaldo etc.. Plus Milan apparently have some bigger targets such as ronaldhino.

Rojo y Negro
11-12-2007, 04:51
I believe that Berlusconi will get his man in the summer "Ronaldinho".
I am not sure about this Mourinho talk. I don't want us to play a Juventus style of play cause the way we play now is why we are so successful in europe.

Nalx
11-12-2007, 06:12
I think they should aim for some bigger name players than pozzi. Although todays 4 goals was very impressive! :w200: ....he was probably just having a good game.

Yeah, perhaps just like Commandini with his brace in the infamous tennis-like match.

Btw, goal.com speculates that Arsenal is preparing to buy Gorky.
http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=510278

I personally want him to stay, but considering there's not much room for him in the starting eleven I think it'll be better if we loan him out.

Arildonardo
11-12-2007, 07:24
Btw, goal.com speculates that Arsenal is preparing to buy Gorky.
http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=510278

I personally want him to stay, but considering there's not much room for him in the starting eleven I think it'll be better if we loan him out.
I really hope we're keeping Gourcuff, he's a great talent and a player with a great future at Milan. Let's get rid of some old crap instead, like Brocchi...

mrki
11-12-2007, 07:28
aLBERTINI IS SAYING THAT rONALDINHO WANTS only Milan if he is ready to leave Barca. Im still convinced he would do well in San Siro ( the pitch is smaller :) and he is out of shape )

English press claim Wenger wants Gourcuff, which is not so far from the truth as Arsenal wanted him at the same time as Milan.

And dont think Mourinho only plays ugly football, it was only the case with Chelsea ( and not always to be fair ). With Porto he created players like Carvalho, Ferreira, Maniche, Deco... and played a formation like Milan is playing now. With 2 strikers and an AM ( Deco ).Jose would do great as he is "the special one" and Milan is a special club :)

peters
11-12-2007, 10:24
I really hope we're keeping Gourcuff, he's a great talent and a player with a great future at Milan. Let's get rid of some old crap instead, like Brocchi...
agree.

i fear we might even sell gorky and get someone like figo for FREE. I mean cmon, he is a true champ and still has a couple of year in his legs right?

:w209:

zafrul
11-12-2007, 10:48
It's like a sense of Dejavu...

Not too many years ago we sold a young Midfielders called Viera to Arsenal, he turned out to be the best DM in the world for a while...

Lets repeat the same mistake twice and sell Gorky to Arsenal...

But not to worry, we still have Brocchi and Emerson to lead the attack...

NAMMY
11-12-2007, 12:03
I don't think Gorky would be ready to move to new pastures so quickly, as he's said before he plans to fight for his place (though footballers are quite fickle). While I haven't seen too many Milan matches this season, I haven't heard too many amazing things about Gorky - so I think it's best for him to go on loan and get some more 1st team action (which Carlo should have been giving him anyway).

Tobinho
11-12-2007, 13:11
The mooted figure for Gourcuff to Arsenal is £15m. An interesting sum.

Either way, it doesn't look like there's a whole lot more room for him at Arsenal than there is at Milan.

Jeff
11-12-2007, 17:41
It's useless to talk asbout Vieria or Henry or anyone that some players left and had a better game.

Look at Shevchenko: He was all good with us and now he sucks. NOw turn the other way round, would anyone want to buy Shevhenko given his awful form at CHelsea (and assumed that he did not play at Milan before?)

Let's be realistic. Some players just don't fit with the teams. It's not winning eleven or Football Manager.

Mystik
11-12-2007, 19:53
I don't think Gorky would be ready to move to new pastures so quickly, as he's said before he plans to fight for his place (though footballers are quite fickle). While I haven't seen too many Milan matches this season, I haven't heard too many amazing things about Gorky - so I think it's best for him to go on loan and get some more 1st team action (which Carlo should have been giving him anyway).
You wouldn't hear too many good things because he barely played this first half of the season. If the second half is anything like the first, then a loan is the best thing for the guy's career.

NAMMY
11-12-2007, 20:12
Yeah Mystik, I think he may hae played less than Emerson!


Let's be realistic. Some players just don't fit with the teams. It's not winning eleven or Football Manager.

Yes, it's more like Fifa (much better than PES too)! :5130:

totti_jonaid
12-12-2007, 03:05
It seems like goal.com is focusing completely on Milan's transfer moves this winter. Here are a couple of new stories or rumors whatever you want to call them:

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=510548

No doubt that he is a good player but he will be yet another aged defender in our collection. Plus personally I do not think Oddo deserves the sub bench he is a class player maybe a bit of color currently but that does not mean we should kick him out of the playing 11.


http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=510952

If this news is true then I think we should let him go ( Wait wait I know how angry my statement has made you) but don't you think Kaka is threatning us a little to much and he is trying to get a little to big for his shoes. I mean there are alot of class players around and we should not keep a player who is trying to get bigger then the team. Our motto should be Milan first then its players.

Mystik
12-12-2007, 06:57
On Banega: I watched him play today in the semi-final and I must say his style of play reminds me more of Xavi Hernandez than Pirlo in that he ventures out of that holding midfield area to help in attack a lot more than Pirlo does. He also isn't afraid to take on a defender or two, something Pirlo almost never does. His range of passing is good and IMO would be a good purchase as a Pirlo understudy.

We also have a similar player in Alex Guerci from our youth team so it's left to see whether we'll just promote an 18 y.o. Guerci(0.001% chance) or purchase Banega, who's a year older and has top flight experience.

remote2book
12-12-2007, 14:26
lyons benzima..he is just too good he is proven in the CL and with the french international team...the only hard thing i would see is switching leagues but he is young and will develop i mean we are putting so much trust into pato why not splash out alot for benzema? i think we should b4 a team like barca or arsenal take him

Mr. Anonymous
12-12-2007, 14:44
We also have a similar player in Alex Guerci from our youth team so it's left to see whether we'll just promote an 18 y.o. Guerci(0.001% chance) or purchase Banega, who's a year older and has top flight experience.

I wonder why we have a youth system at times? :1avs:

Mystik
12-12-2007, 14:46
Wow I think we got the point there...:guw: but in all seriousness, Benzema is a great prospect. However I doubt Lyon would be willing to part with him so soon and if they are, it won't be for anything cheap. He's definitely the kind of attacker we want, especially given Ronaldo's fitness (or lack thereof). It's not our style to take so many risks though and I think we've expired our quota of risky moves for this decade (buying Pato). I definitely would love to see him in a Milan jersey but IMO the chances of that happening are slim.

slicknick
12-12-2007, 14:57
lyons benzima..he is just too good he is proven in the CL and with the french international team...the only hard thing i would see is switching leagues but he is young and will develop i mean we are putting so much trust into pato why not splash out alot for benzema? i think we should b4 a team like barca or arsenal take him

Way too many of them same post, chief...You OK there??

Giorgos
12-12-2007, 15:02
I would love to see Banenga, D. Alves, Aguerro...

slicknick
12-12-2007, 15:04
Breno, Aguero, Benzema, De Silvestri, Banega, Nordtveit and Radek Petr

remote2book
12-12-2007, 15:36
hahah sorry guys the computer went stupid but yea i agree the chances of him coming in milan are slim but he is a great player (scored 2 against rangers today) very fast and just as good with his left as he is with his right...he is one of my personal favs ....we will see what hapens in the future

_MaJi_tz
12-12-2007, 15:41
Bring new fenomeno BENZEMA than we will have two next fenomeno Pato and Benzema

forward
12-12-2007, 16:02
Look at Shevchenko: He was all good with us and now he sucks. NOw turn the other way round, would anyone want to buy Shevhenko given his awful form at CHelsea (and assumed that he did not play at Milan before?)

Shevchenko doesn't suck. If you watched his performance in Chelsea games you would notice a lot of quality in his game, and some world class goals. It's more the matter of fitting into the team and being needed by the team. In my opinion, Chelsea doesn't need him on and off the pitch, so he rarely gets to show his skill.
I know we all have mixed feeling about Sheva leaving Milan, but we still can try to be respectful.

Jeff
12-12-2007, 16:07
Shevchenko doesn't suck. If you watched his performance in Chelsea games you would notice a lot of quality in his game, and some world class goals. It's more the matter of fitting into the team and being needed by the team. In my opinion, Chelsea doesn't need him on and off the pitch, so he rarely gets to show his skill.
I know we all have mixed feeling about Sheva leaving Milan, but we still can try to be respectful.

I don't know what makes you think that I'm disrespectful to him (?!), but I'm glad you understand my point, that it's a matter of fitting in or not. Clearly, Vieria is seen as not fitting in with the team (though correctly me if I'm wrong), and it may be the same case for Gourcuff.

Add to the fact that Gourcuff may well be overestimated by the majority of us here; it'll be interesting to see how Pato settle downs (although it may afterall not be a fair comparison since there are so many Brazilian players around).

forward
12-12-2007, 16:16
I didn't see a lot of Gourcuff to judge if he fits in. Not all the players display great performance at once. Given time, Gourcuff would play well IMHO

inter-1908
12-12-2007, 16:17
I don't know what makes you think that I'm disrespectful to him (?!), but I'm glad you understand my point, that it's a matter of fitting in or not. Clearly, Vieria is seen as not fitting in with the team (though correctly me if I'm wrong), and it may be the same case for Gourcuff.

Add to the fact that Gourcuff may well be overestimated by the majority of us here; it'll be interesting to see how Pato settle downs (although it may afterall not be a fair comparison since there are so many Brazilian players around).

Regardingi vieria you are absolutely right about him not fitting in, hes always injured, he hasnt played once. He needsa to find a team, or for that fact of the matter a better league, where he wont be so injury prone. Anyways we all know how hard Italian defences can be. With regards to Milan, there are alot of transfer rumours linked with them. MAybe this club world cup will BE a test to see who can contribute best to the team. I think that Ronaldhino is bound to end up at Milan, theres so much talk about it, and Ronaldhino would fit in with a club Like Ac milan. I think he would also fit in well with the Italian game. If it happens, it will probabaly happen around or in the summer months, when there is more time to negotiate rather tahn the winter transfer market.

Mystik
12-12-2007, 17:09
I don't know what makes you think that I'm disrespectful to him (?!), but I'm glad you understand my point, that it's a matter of fitting in or not. Clearly, Vieria is seen as not fitting in with the team (though correctly me if I'm wrong), and it may be the same case for Gourcuff.

Add to the fact that Gourcuff may well be overestimated by the majority of us here; it'll be interesting to see how Pato settle downs (although it may afterall not be a fair comparison since there are so many Brazilian players around).
I don't see it as overestimating. The way I see it is, when he plays he's definitely at least on par with our "stars" who play day in day out. So why not give him a shot ? He hasn't been lighting it up like his first few matches last year but then again he hasn't been given any continuity for him to build the confidence to play better. Carlo will be forced to play him in January given we have a million matches to play within that month so then we can see whether it's an overestimation or not.

Jeff
12-12-2007, 17:37
So why not give him a shot ? He hasn't been lighting it up like his first few matches last year but then again he hasn't been given any continuity for him to build the confidence to play better. Carlo will be forced to play him in January given we have a million matches to play within that month so then we can see whether it's an overestimation or not.

He should be given his chance in actual matches; but, if he doesn't even imrpess the coach, or the management in general, in training, then how would a coach filed him to play? There are a couple of possibilities here:

1) He just doesn't fit.

2) He is not working hard during training.

3) Carlo doesn't think he is good enough, YET, but has the potential to be really good.

Yes, Carlo can play him to train him; but can Milan afford to do that GIVEN that they know that he is not yet good enough? Unfortunately, Milan is not Arsenal where some of the youngest players get the chance to play. I just don't think that Carlo will be stupid enough NOT to play him if he is really THAT good.

And of course it's an issue with a fit. If he were a defender he probably would have played a lot more.

I do not totally agree with some of Carlo's substitution, like Brocchi for our midfield, but Carlo is a very very careful person. He doesn't like losing and I feel that fielding Gourcuff is a risk-taking strategy (or time-wasting strategy at the end of the game like Gila substituting Inzaghi).

And, he is NOT without chance; the game against Celtic, the game against one of the weaker Serie A team; yet he seldom shines, just like Gilardino. Indeed, if Gilardino were a midfield, he probably wouldn't even have gotten onto the bench.

What I am saying is: Milan won't field Gourcuff simply to give him more experiences in the expense of lossing the game; (efven if the chance is just 1%). He is a great ball-holder, but he still has yet to show what he has to actually change the game. Everyone has a role in the team; Gila / Inzaghi for scoring; Kaka` for brining the ball forward quickly; seedorf for his technique; gattuso and ambrosini for ball-winning skills.

What can Gourcuff offer? That's my question. He is not the 'link', he is yet to be creative; he is fast and dribbles very well but not good enough to be deadly; In other words, he's a kind of player who has exceptional gift but didn't know what his role in the team.

So I don't really know how to answer your question about why not give him a shot, but I don't think MIlan is ready to give any player who doesn't have a concrete role (even we know that Brocchi is for ball-winning role).

And, unfortunately, Milan is just not the place for him to figure it out. And I sincerely hope that Pato is not going to turn out yet another Gourcuff.

In closing: Gourcuff still has much to prove. I think the pressure is actually on him quite a bit, so it's important for him to set the bar high but not losing sight to reality.

J

Mystik
12-12-2007, 19:39
The problem is that he's always played in a different position. Once in the middle, next game on the left, next game on the right and for a young player of course this will be confusing. Also you can't seriously call 1 start in half of a season a chance to shine. I agree he does look lost on the pitch but when your role on the field changes every game you can't really expect him not to. I've always thought he plays better when he starts because at the start of the game, everybody's role is clearly outlined. When he comes on as a sub, it's like they just throw him on the field and just tell him 'play..good luck'.

I think he offers a lot in terms of work rate(important for breaking down small sides), good crossing(Gila scored at least two headers off his corners last season if I remember correctly) and also to give Seedorf and Kaka rest because they surely can't play 90 minutes in every single match.

Finally..afraid of losing ? We've lost and/or drawn where we should have won enough times this season with the same 11 people on the pitch. Maybe it's time to try something new?

hitmannq8
12-12-2007, 19:54
It's not our style to take so many risks though and I think we've expired our quota of risky moves for this decade (buying Pato)

grande post! :star: :star: :star:



Jeff is right that Gourcuff hasn't proven himself and everytime he's given a chance he fails to shine, but I also agree that it is not fair that Carlo is not giving him enough games. He has to play him more often. I wanna see the kid start in 3 games in a row, thats all. If after that he still is poor then im all for selling him.

slicknick
13-12-2007, 01:59
grande post! :star: :star: :star:



Jeff is right that Gourcuff hasn't proven himself and everytime he's given a chance he fails to shine, but I also agree that it is not fair that Carlo is not giving him enough games. He has to play him more often. I wanna see the kid start in 3 games in a row, thats all. If after that he still is poor then im all for selling him.

Well said, pal... I'm in full agreement :clap:

Jeff
13-12-2007, 02:54
Maybe the best way is to play against the Japanese team? :D

Tobinho
14-12-2007, 06:13
The trouble is that Gourcuff has Kaká (the world's best player) and Seedorf (a player of huge experience) in front of him. Now that the start to the season has been poor, Carlo is forced into fielding his strongest side every game since we can't afford to drop any points - this means Gourcuff won't get a chance.

I think he can fit into the Christmas Tree formation perfectly well alongside Kaká or Seedorf.

Tobinho
14-12-2007, 06:14
I would love to see Banenga, D. Alves, Aguerro...

This would be great, but all are non-EU, so we could only get one per season, and the combined price would be something like €80m.

dejan.s
14-12-2007, 06:57
...Everyone has a role in the team; Gila / Inzaghi for scoring; Kaka` for brining the ball forward quickly; seedorf for his technique; gattuso and ambrosini for ball-winning skills...
J

You probably meant to write: Kaka' and Seedorf to score, and Gila to fill 11th place in the squad :nail:

mrki
14-12-2007, 07:05
Breno signed for Bayern and some young Swedish midfielder for Juve and will probably play some time for Brescia who are becoming the new Siena.

Bye, bye Breno, and Kaka' told Galliani about him :(

dejan.s
14-12-2007, 07:06
Seriously, AC Milan should find the centre forward who will create chances for the second forward and creative midfielder who will change the pace of the game - broke the deadlock.

Second, I have the impression that players don't want to come to AC Milan, but prefer to play, even for Man. City, just for higher salary. My opinion is that Ancelloti is not trying enough to lure the players, and leaves this to Silvio and Galliani. In this context, bringing Jose (after Italy fail to become european champions in summer, and appoint Ancelloti as national team manager) will be smart move.

inomilan
14-12-2007, 07:16
http://goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=514155
HAHA! DAT'S WAT U COULD GET FOR SIGNING 4 INTER! SHOULD HAV CHOSEN US, BUT NO! U LOST UR CHANCE!

slicknick
14-12-2007, 07:58
Bye, bye Breno, and Kaka' told Galliani about him :(

The Galliani and co. will always keep missing golden opportunites on potential future superstars and players that can bring some young and fresh blood to the team... :5horse:
I seriously wonder how they have actually beaten competition from Man Utd. Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal, Juventus Inter and etc.. to sign Pato :confused:

MiamiMilanista
14-12-2007, 08:10
Breno is gone and i'm really not sure what management has up their sleeves. This is going to sound REALLY bad, but it's my opinion. The best thing that can happen to Milan is to completely tank the Club World Cup final on Sunday versus Boca. For some odd reason, Galliani has put so much emphasis on this BS mickey mouse tournament that does nothing for our team except bring home a bunch of tired old men. This is not exactly fun for me as I will be in Milan next Sunday for the derby in which i'm pretty sure Inter is going to take full advantage of this.

If we lose on Sunday, i'm pretty sure Galliani and Berlu will open their eyes and see that Milan needs to revamp this squad. Carletto's time may come if they lose in the final and I think Mourinho would be ours (and trust me, he will revamp the squad and get a lot of his Chelski boys!)

This is the first time I have ever wanted my team to lose, but it's bothersome to know we have so much going into this tournament which will only cause Galliani to think we are a magical side if we win. This in turn could very well cause him to keep his hands out of his pocket in January which in turn will very well see us playing UEFA Cup football next year.

inomilan
14-12-2007, 08:36
Juve also signed d so-called "New Ibrahimovic"

crap, our rivals r beating us 8-|on d transfers!

Dave
14-12-2007, 08:55
Breno is gone and i'm really not sure what management has up their sleeves. This is going to sound REALLY bad, but it's my opinion. The best thing that can happen to Milan is to completely tank the Club World Cup final on Sunday versus Boca. For some odd reason, Galliani has put so much emphasis on this BS mickey mouse tournament that does nothing for our team except bring home a bunch of tired old men. This is not exactly fun for me as I will be in Milan next Sunday for the derby in which i'm pretty sure Inter is going to take full advantage of this.

If we lose on Sunday, i'm pretty sure Galliani and Berlu will open their eyes and see that Milan needs to revamp this squad. Carletto's time may come if they lose in the final and I think Mourinho would be ours (and trust me, he will revamp the squad and get a lot of his Chelski boys!)

This is the first time I have ever wanted my team to lose, but it's bothersome to know we have so much going into this tournament which will only cause Galliani to think we are a magical side if we win. This in turn could very well cause him to keep his hands out of his pocket in January which in turn will very well see us playing UEFA Cup football next year.
Very nice post!

drucurl
14-12-2007, 09:04
Breno signed for Bayern and some young Swedish midfielder for Juve and will probably play some time for Brescia who are becoming the new Siena.

Bye, bye Breno, and Kaka' told Galliani about him
Are you kidding me? Kaka practically begged for Fabiano...look at him now :wallbang: Ancelotti pleased for Toni/RVN/Trez & Ribery.....Worst of all all poor drucurl asked for was Quaresma and Aguero :(
Instead we hope to make a meal from a raw duck and a couple french fries :hammer: :

mrki
14-12-2007, 09:25
There are still few players that can help us in january: Sagnol, Benega, Ivanovic, Benzema... but money needs to be spend.

Maybe someone should call Berlusconi and say this:

Mrki: Hello, is this mr.Berlusconi?
Silvio: Si. How can I help you?
Mrki: Im calling in the name of Milanmania forum, we have a superb plan for Milan's future!
Silvio: Oh, I've heard for MM. So whats the plan?
Mrki: Well, how about we....buy SOMEONE???
Silvio: hmmm....I thought about that for a moment also, but I was drunk back then, and also when we bought Vieri...we'll see. Oh, there's Favalli just coming to a dinner party, I have to go... bye. We are the UCL champions, KAka' is the best player and Ronaldo will soon be ready and then Jesus will come back to earth... so no problems for us. Also, Ba is doing well in training capm.

Rayno_acm
14-12-2007, 09:38
Very nice post!
I would say very BAD post from another crybaby... :yuck:

Why don't you get it, transfers WILL be made, in the summer atleast 5 or 6 players, we'll be forced to buy some players. :1old:
And besides, we couldn't buy Breno this season, cuz our non-EU spot is only one (that's not Galliani's fault, right?) and it will be taken by Pato. Even more, our biggest problems are in the attack and we can't spend that spot for a defender... :rollani:

slicknick
14-12-2007, 09:39
We are the UCL champions, KAka' is the best player and Ronaldo will soon be ready and then Jesus will come back to earth... so no problems for us. Also, Ba is doing well in training capm.


That's deffo funny to meeeee

:haha: :haha:

drucurl
14-12-2007, 10:11
Mrki: Hello, is this mr.Berlusconi?
Silvio: Si. How can I help you?
Mrki: Im calling in the name of Milanmania forum, we have a superb plan for Milan's future!
Silvio: Oh, I've heard for MM. So whats the plan?
Mrki: Well, how about we....buy SOMEONE???
:rotfl: :rotfl:

Mr. Anonymous
14-12-2007, 10:16
If we lose on Sunday, i'm pretty sure Galliani and Berlu will open their eyes and see that Milan needs to revamp this squad. Carletto's time may come if they lose in the final and I think Mourinho would be ours (and trust me, he will revamp the squad and get a lot of his Chelski boys!)

This is the first time I have ever wanted my team to lose, but it's bothersome to know we have so much going into this tournament which will only cause Galliani to think we are a magical side if we win. This in turn could very well cause him to keep his hands out of his pocket in January which in turn will very well see us playing UEFA Cup football next year.

I think they do see what's happening with the squad. They just want to do things their way, (not the best way IMO) but their way. They're counting heavily on the activation of Pato to help their spot in the league.

But despite their jibber jabber and empty talk, I believe that there will be a signing in January, other than the activation of Pato. We are in a really precarious situation right now, worse than last year.

Many people after last year, are over confident of us either winning the CL and or finishing 4th. This year is entirely different & Juve is taking a spot that was open last year. ROMA, INTER, JUVE and then Fiorentina & Udinese are playing really well. Teams don't role over and play dead for Milan anymore.

Our squad, has proven that they can't get the job done in the Serie "A." And the activation of an unproven 18 year old will not be the difference. Management must know this. Not making CL would be a huge blow financially, and a huge blow to the club, as players want to play for us because were are perernially in the CL.

And since Berlu wants Ronaldinho, like I want a threesome with Eva Longoria & Buffy The Body (look her up on the net, if you don't know) Berlu has to know....No 4th spot or Champions League Trophy this year....means no chance at Ronaldinho next year.

Something has to give, and I don't think management will risk a potential Bayern Munich situation. Look for something to happen in January. Look for Berlu's fat, moth filled, cob webbed, under used, wallet to creak open up in a few weeks, to purchase some much needed youth and/or depth.

But to not perform well in this CWC is inconsequencial, and IMO has no bearing on management picking up players in January.

Mr. Anonymous
14-12-2007, 10:24
I would say very BAD post from another crybaby... :yuck:

Why don't you get it, transfers WILL be made, in the summer atleast 5 or 6 players, we'll be forced to buy some players. :1old:
And besides, we couldn't buy Breno this season, cuz our non-EU spot is only one (that's not Galliani's fault, right?) and it will be taken by Pato. Even more, our biggest problems are in the attack and we can't spend that spot for a defender... :rollani:

I agree about Breno & that our attack is the problem.
But we can't wait for the summer, as it may be too late by then. If we don't catch fourth or win the whole CL, you think players will want to come in the summer?
We really don't attract players with money, most could get more somewhere...we attract them with our name, with our prestige, and the opporunity to win Championships.

Kalstroem6
14-12-2007, 10:35
the real problem is our bench and wing backs,the attack as well,maybe with players like Kalstroem and Marko Marin we would have a great back ups for Seedorf and Kaka,in attack,One of Benzema or Drogba is a must also considering Ronaldo is always injured,we should sign Zambrotta to compete with Jankulovski and should opt De Silvestri for the future.

Kalstroem6
14-12-2007, 10:35
By the way,We linked with Arda Turan of gala,who dubbed as the next emre according to reports.

slicknick
14-12-2007, 10:40
Buffy The Body (look her up on the net, if you don't know)

I have, and can tell you that she is certainly not my type :yuck: ... Although I have to say Eva Longoria is really hot :rock3:

Mr. Anonymous
14-12-2007, 10:51
I have, and can tell you that she is certainly not my type :yuck: ... Although I have to say Eva Longoria is really hot :rock3:

HAHAHAHA!!!

I know she's a lot of woman eh! It's all about that junk in the trunk for me my friend! :5ok:
That's why there are all sort of shapes, sizes and colors.

I shall digress before I get slapped with some sort of ban!!!

The point is...if Berlu wants to get R10 that badly he'll have to ensure another CL trophy of we don't get 4th in the League, and this group of players alone, along with Pato come in January, will have their work cut out for them.
One more attacking/creative FOWARD striker needed.

MiamiMilanista
14-12-2007, 11:02
I would say very BAD post from another crybaby... :yuck:

Why don't you get it, transfers WILL be made, in the summer atleast 5 or 6 players, we'll be forced to buy some players. :1old:
And besides, we couldn't buy Breno this season, cuz our non-EU spot is only one (that's not Galliani's fault, right?) and it will be taken by Pato. Even more, our biggest problems are in the attack and we can't spend that spot for a defender... :rollani:

Crybaby?? you must love mediocrity... i hope your life doesnt suck as much as Milan does at this point. We need players and need them within 30 days or you can say Ciao to the CL for next year.

Tobinho
14-12-2007, 12:17
I agree, Milan must buy in January. It's not easy to see who though, they must be EU (or non-EU and based in Italy) and must not be tied in Europe. They must also be able to produce straight away.
If we get another striker, we'll have 5 (and a sixth out on loan) for sometimes only one space in the team...

As has been discussed, there's no space for Gourcuff in the team, so how will there be space for another playmaker?

Gattuso and Ambro are doing well, as is Pirlo, and the centre-backs are fine.

So that just leaves wing-backs and goalkeeper, it's hard to see a new wing-back turning the season around...

icculus
14-12-2007, 15:11
plus new blood, no matter how talented requires time to settle...

Bosniaco
14-12-2007, 15:17
I read some of the comments that you guys post here. I like the fact that you all talk about young players, prospects etc. but we all know until Carlo Ancelotti is on the bench young guys will not come. Ancelotti trusts the old guys for the experience.
I mean who the would sing Favalli? Vieri? Emerson? Who would keep Cafu until he is 38? who would keep Costacurta till he is 40 with no replacment? Who would sign Ba at his age? I mean come on Galliani is a jok, and we are a joke, and I'm a jok because anytime I say something about Milan my friends tell me how old is my team. I know we win things but its nice to have some young guys.

THANK GOD FOR KAKA.

Faяouk
14-12-2007, 15:18
Tiago from Juve. He didn't click there, but he could be a sub for Pirlo and could give our midfield an extra spark. His creativity is what we lack against teams that close down on us.

I wish there's a cheap, young, talented RB out there.

Jeff
14-12-2007, 16:50
I mean come on Galliani is a jok, and we are a joke, and I'm a jok because anytime I say something about Milan my friends tell me how old is my team. I know we win things but its nice to have some young guys.

THANK GOD FOR KAKA.

Indeed, the whole scenario is a joke because the joke team actually wins the most prestigious Champion League twice in 5 years. That's a joke.

perhaps even UEFA CL is also a joke.

Serie A is a joke when you have Inter no top of the table after robbing half of Juve's team.

And Bosniaco: Tell your friends they their team is a joke because they don't know how young their teams are. :)

Bosniaco
14-12-2007, 16:58
Indeed, the whole scenario is a joke because the joke team actually wins the most prestigious Champion League twice in 5 years. That's a joke.

perhaps even UEFA CL is also a joke.

Serie A is a joke when you have Inter no top of the table after robbing half of Juve's team.

And Bosniaco: Tell your friends they their team is a joke because they don't know how young their teams are. :)
I hade Inter lets get this straight but they have a better team. We all know if it wasnt for Kaka last year we would never win the CL and ofcourse some luck. Inter took Ibra and Viera from Juve. Now this year we all started with 0 points ( like Galliani said) and where is Inter? Where are we? Dude we are going to be over 20 points behaind Inter by the time we come back from Japan. I cant see us win anything this season exept the World Club Cup.

forward
14-12-2007, 20:44
I wish there's a cheap, young, talented RB out there.
Alves perhaps?

inomilan
14-12-2007, 20:59
Alves perhaps?
he ain't cheap...but we need to get him!

Giovanni
15-12-2007, 04:33
Mind that Marzoratti will turn to be one of the Italian new golden boys of defence in the next years. Pozzi is doing well, as well as Grimi (as far as i know). Borriello too. Maybe Marzoratti, among them, and maybe Pozzi will come back home, in a few years time.

Anyway Marzoratti will be a regular Italy NT starter in the next 3-4 years. I'm sure within a couple of years he will be called up by Donadoni.

The only who can improve our defence in January is Zambrotta. We must check the italian market to find a good CB as well for the future.

ThrusT
15-12-2007, 04:53
Mind that Marzoratti will turn to be one of the Italian new golden boys of defence in the next years. Pozzi is doing well, as well as Grimi (as far as i know). Borriello too. Maybe Marzoratti, among them, and maybe Pozzi will come back home, in a few years time.

Anyway Marzoratti will be a regular Italy NT starter in the next 3-4 years. I'm sure within a couple of years he will be called up by Donadoni.

The only who can improve our defence in January is Zambrotta. We must check the italian market to find a good CB as well for the future.

In 2 years from now, when Oddo and possibly Zambrotta :tong: are burned out he could perhaps fill in the right back position at Milan. :de3:

Do we still own Boriello actually?

It would be great if we signed Zapata as cb but I guess we would be competing with Juve for his signature.
I'd also like the idea of Pasqual on the left. :smileani:

Faяouk
15-12-2007, 06:28
Alves perhaps?

He's what I had in mind, but he's not cheap + he doesn't have an EU passport which makes the transfer impossible.

Stitch
15-12-2007, 07:29
Mind that Marzoratti will turn to be one of the Italian new golden boys of defence in the next years. Pozzi is doing well, as well as Grimi (as far as i know). Borriello too. Maybe Marzoratti, among them, and maybe Pozzi will come back home, in a few years time.

Anyway Marzoratti will be a regular Italy NT starter in the next 3-4 years. I'm sure within a couple of years he will be called up by Donadoni.

The only who can improve our defence in January is Zambrotta. We must check the italian market to find a good CB as well for the future.

here you go, Nostradamus :ilol:

http://www.goal.com/en/articolo.aspx?contenutoid=514931

Zambrotta Set To Move To Milan In January - Report According to TV show 8TV's programme Força Barça, Gianluca Zambrotta will leave Barcelona in the upcoming transfer window in order to move back to Italy.
Zambrotta Set To Move To Milan In January - Report
zoom - galleria
Zambrotta's marriage to the Blaugrana is coming to an end, according to Catalan television station 8TV, with only the detail of when he will be allowed to leave being the main problem.

However, according to the latest reports from Spain, the Italian wing-back will leave the Catalan giants in January to join AC Milan.

Apparently, the main reason behind his departure from Spain is that he has family problems and therefore he wants to return to Italy as soon as possible.

Barcelona are set to allow the player to leave due to his strong desire to go back to the peninsula, as Zambrotta is himself negotiating the deal which will free him from his current contract.

Nine days ago, Zambrotta's agent insisted that no move to Milan was forhthcoming, but these revelations throw that statement into doubt.

Should it take place, though, this will be an important transfer for the Rossoneri who can therefore count on another World Cup winner in their bid to climb back up the standings in Serie A

However, Zambrotta will not be available for the Champions League games since he has already played in the competition for Barcelona this season.

For Barcelona, the search for a new right-back may begin, although Carles Puyol has lately deputised there to good effect.

Stitch
15-12-2007, 07:31
here's one more news....too good to be true, IMO

Milan & Inter Battle It Out Over Benzema AC Milan and Inter are set to battle it out on the transfer market for the signature of Lyon sensation Karim Benzema.
Milan & Inter Battle It Out Over Benzema

The French striker, who is still only 19, is one of the most explosive talents in European football.



Benzema has scored 12 goals in 17 appearances this season, including two fine goals on Wednesday night as Lyon knocked out Rangers in the Champions League.



This has led to a host of European clubs such as Real Madrid, Arsenal, Liverpool and Juventus all wanting to sign the hitman.



However ‘Il Giornale’ claims that Milan and Inter are both ready to offer Benzema four million pounds a season to get their man.



Benzema, who currently earns £800,000 per annum, is valued by Lyon at €15m, however this is expected to have doubled by the summer when any possible transfer will take place.



The 6ft frontman is certain to be named in Raymond Domenech’s France squad at Euro 2008, and is likely to play against Italy in the final group game in Zurich on June 17.



Benzema has so far scored three goals in eight appearances for Les Bleus.
http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=515156

Nordahl
15-12-2007, 07:37
That's the right kind of acquiring!

rosoneri_11
15-12-2007, 10:19
Hi everyone after 3 months! I comed back again and i will stay for a long time everyday again!


Back to topic. As i can read from the news if Milan buy in January Zambrotta and Benzema it will be great transfers.We really need such good players.The bad thing is that they will not play in CL this season and that is a hard thing if we gonna buy these 2 great players in Winter or in June?

inomilan
15-12-2007, 10:58
i think they should both come in January coz
1.) They would at least help us out in Serie A
2.) Their arrival would also weaken other strong opposition (not so much for Barca though as Zambro wasn't dat good there anyway, but a big blow for Lyon if Benzema leaves for us)

ACMILAN1983
15-12-2007, 14:05
Mind that Marzoratti will turn to be one of the Italian new golden boys of defence in the next years. Pozzi is doing well, as well as Grimi (as far as i know). Borriello too. Maybe Marzoratti, among them, and maybe Pozzi will come back home, in a few years time.

Anyway Marzoratti will be a regular Italy NT starter in the next 3-4 years. I'm sure within a couple of years he will be called up by Donadoni.

The only who can improve our defence in January is Zambrotta. We must check the italian market to find a good CB as well for the future.

Agree, Marzoratti is definitely one that I have high hopes for in the future, he's got the potential. I feel in him and Darmian, we could well be looking at one of the future classic defensive pairs.

Graeme C
15-12-2007, 15:13
the times ive seen pozzi, the way he stands and holds himself he reminds me a bit of crespo. Lets just hope his form continues :)

addicted
15-12-2007, 16:30
Theres nobody that would come in the winter market that would boost our weak parts in the team.I say negociate for the summer transfer .

We need two defenders(center back and a right back) and a midfielder whit pace ,in atack we should be fine if pato turns into a new sheva,if not we need a world class player not a tapper like gilla.

Giovanni
15-12-2007, 16:54
here you go, Nostradamus :ilol:

http://www.goal.com/en/articolo.aspx?contenutoid=514931

.............. :) :sun:

mrki
15-12-2007, 17:21
I really, really, reeealllyy hope Zambrotta joins us in january even dough he will not play in CL. He is, in my oppinion, still the best fullback in the world and can play both left and right. At this moment I would use him on the right side as Oddo is simply horrible and Im sure Milan staff sees it.

Zambrotta is my big wish for years and if this comes true it will be brilliant! He can help us alot with his brilliant defending and brilliant attacking play, fingers crossed for Gianluca to Milan!

If we SOMEHOW manage to get Roonie fit for spring, along with Pato and Zambrotta that would be a huge plus for us, but that is not anything special actually as we are in REALLY bad position and we simply need to catch 4th place. Also, one more fast midfielder would do us wonders!

About Benzema everyone knows everything, the man/boy is brilliant and looks like a mix of Trez-Sheva. Who ever gets him of the big clubs will make the best attacking buy of the summer.

Jeff
15-12-2007, 17:26
Actually; if you look at the table, you'll realize that if our aim is the fourth place (really), then it's not as 'bad' as some people have been thinking. I simply fail to see the logic of some people thinking MIlan is in deep trouble all the time; whether MIlan won 5-1 or lose 1-0 or after 4/5 years people still crying out loud that Milan is an old team exactly.

For god sake, is an average age of 28 that bad for Milan? What do people want? Age of 18?

Mystik
15-12-2007, 19:54
Agree, Marzoratti is definitely one that I have high hopes for in the future, he's got the potential. I feel in him and Darmian, we could well be looking at one of the future classic defensive pairs.
Don't forget Antonelli on the left, who had a great game for Bari today, racking up two assists.

mrki
16-12-2007, 04:25
Actually; if you look at the table, you'll realize that if our aim is the fourth place (really), then it's not as 'bad' as some people have been thinking. I simply fail to see the logic of some people thinking MIlan is in deep trouble all the time; whether MIlan won 5-1 or lose 1-0 or after 4/5 years people still crying out loud that Milan is an old team exactly.

For god sake, is an average age of 28 that bad for Milan? What do people want? Age of 18?

If we win against Inter and win our games we havent played, we would still be 4 points our of 4th place... am I right?

Jim_UK
16-12-2007, 14:48
The only who can improve our defence in January is Zambrotta. We must check the italian market to find a good CB as well for the future.

For me, Zapata would be a good choice for a CB if we're looking inside the Italian market. He has pace & strength, he just needs some tutition.

Does anyone know for sure if Real have first option/already signed Banega of Boca? He'd be a good substitute for Ambrosini & replacement for either Brocchi or Emerson.

forward
16-12-2007, 15:12
I think we should invest into cloning technologies and then clone kaka so we can have 1 for midfield and 1 as a striker...

Bosniaco
16-12-2007, 17:57
For me, Zapata would be a good choice for a CB if we're looking inside the Italian market. He has pace & strength, he just needs some tutition.

Does anyone know for sure if Real have first option/already signed Banega of Boca? He'd be a good substitute for Ambrosini & replacement for either Brocchi or Emerson.
Zapata is good or Mexes. Roma cant give Mexes the salary that Milan can, so he would move.

MiamiMilanista
16-12-2007, 19:09
Galliani: "Non arriva nessuno"

This was reported in the Gazzetta today. Just as I thought following a Club World Cup win...

Mystik
16-12-2007, 19:26
Somewhere Warro posted the rules for Silly Season. I think one of them was: believe everything and nothing you hear. Those rules should be stickied!

LOL Here you go
Silly Season rules:
Rule 1 Almost every time, go against what club officials say about pending transfers, and what players the club are interested in
Rule 2 Believe everything the club officials tell you about upcoming transfers
Rule 3 Tabloid reports, are 98.7% accurate
Rule 4 Tabloid reports are never, ever, ever accurate
Rule 5 There are no rules.

dejan.s
17-12-2007, 06:05
eurosport.com :
"Milan might have won the Club World Cup on Sunday, but it may not be enough to save the job of Carlo Ancelotti, whose job will reportedly be offered to Jose Mourinho."

dejan.s
17-12-2007, 06:07
tribalfootball.com :
Galliani "We're happy with this squad. But perhaps we'll look to change one or two players."

Nalx
17-12-2007, 06:20
By the way,We linked with Arda Turan of gala,who dubbed as the next emre according to reports.

We don't need another injury prone player. Besides Emre isn't of Milan quality IMO. Galliani said that Milan will bring two new players in January. Let's hope he keep his words this time though I myself doubt it :grinser:

rinogattuso
17-12-2007, 06:20
eurosport.com :
"Milan might have won the Club World Cup on Sunday, but it may not be enough to save the job of Carlo Ancelotti, whose job will reportedly be offered to Jose Mourinho."

I hate Mourinho,Carlo is still remain with us..Look at oficial site ACMilan.com

dejan.s
17-12-2007, 07:01
goal.com :
"Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson is said to be planning a £21m bid for Olympique Lyonnais striker Karim Benzema. "

I guess we will hear more bullsh*t about Italian tax system :wallbang:

Victor_Poland
17-12-2007, 08:24
Hi! I'm Victor from Poland. I love Milan, but I don't like their transfer policy :lazy:

I'm very disappointed because Berlusconi said, that there will be no transfers in the winter break :r7:

p/s
Could you do your favourite football club a favour??? :5schal:

Vote on AC Milan ! (http://www.voteyourteam.com/Europe/Italy/AC-Milan.aspx)

Mehdi
17-12-2007, 08:31
Hi! I'm Victor from Poland. I love Milan, but I don't like their transfer policy :lazy:

I'm very disappointed because Berlusconi said, that there will be no transfers in the winter break :r7:


I think there will be.


p/s
Could you do your favourite football club a favour??? :5schal:

Vote on AC Milan ! (http://www.voteyourteam.com/Europe/Italy/AC-Milan.aspx)

I have voted.

Snapster
17-12-2007, 08:35
You have to remember the other side of the argument. If Berlu or Galliani comes out and says they'll sign a striker, player evaluations will be over inflated or we may be involved in a competing bids with other clubs.

It's best we just buy who we need without saying its much better for us, although realising what we need that is another matter entirely. We've done it in the past, saying we wont sign anyone or are not interested and it's been a smokescreen to buy someone else (ie Nesta instead of Cannavaro)

Victor_Poland
17-12-2007, 08:39
I think that Karim Benzema and Mertesacker should join Milan!

p/s
You can vote on Milan again, after 60 minutes have passed! :)

NAMMY
17-12-2007, 08:44
We obviously won't be needing a new striker according to Berlu:

Pato Will Score 30 Goals By End Of Season - Berlusconi (http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=517142)

Milan president Silvio Berlusconi has been reassured by coach Carlo Ancelotti that the young Brazilian has all the qualities to score a record number of goals by June of next year.

The Rossoneri's main transfer of the January market will be that of Pato who is already being hailed to be one of the best strikers around despite his very young age.

This was confirmed by Berlusconi, who spoke to Ancelotti about Pato's potential.

“We expect the gestures of a great champion, of a rejuvenation of the entire team," declared the Milan president.

"I spoke with Carlo Ancelotti of what Pato could bring to Milan and he told me that if he continues to play like we see him during the training games between the players, it ends up that between January and June he will score 30 goals.

"I asked him 'Will you write this down Carletto?’, and he told me: 'No, I will not write it down, but I'm convinced that there are many possibilities that he can reach this target.'"

With such a target to fulfil, Pato will surely become the most hyped player ever to play in Serie A.

:rolleyes:

I'm sure Pato is a special player, but the hype is a bit too much atm imo.

Victor_Poland
17-12-2007, 09:13
Berlusconi's words on polish :):
"Spytałem Ancelottiego co wniesie do naszej drużyny Pato. Odpowiedział, że jeśli będzie grał tak jak na treningach, możemy spodziewać się po nim 30 goli!"

I don't like my native language, it's very difficult :p1510: unlike English :P

I think that Milan puts to much pressure on Pato. It can be bad for him.

forward
17-12-2007, 10:41
Berlusconi's words on polish :):
"Spytałem Ancelottiego co wniesie do naszej drużyny Pato. Odpowiedział, że jeśli będzie grał tak jak na treningach, możemy spodziewać się po nim 30 goli!"

I don't like my native language, it's very difficult :p1510: unlike English :P

I think that Milan puts to much pressure on Pato. It can be bad for him.
I think Polish is pretty cool :)
The easy way out is not the best way out ;)

Victor_Poland
17-12-2007, 10:57
I think Polish is pretty cool :)
The easy way out is not the best way out ;)

You're absolutely right, but I still don't like it.
I prefer the easy way out :)

Jim_UK
17-12-2007, 11:08
It's a bit of a disgrace the way the management are hyping this kid up, it helps no one at all. Pato will be under more pressure to live up to all this talk and if it doesn't happen, we the fans will be up in arms in a short space of time. They should just keep their mouths shut (Galliani, Berlusconi & Ancelotti) and let the kid's football do the talking. It smacks a bit of depseration.

Plus if we do get 1 or 2 players in January (according to Berlusconi) Pato will probably count as 1 of them :rollani: :D

hitmannq8
17-12-2007, 11:16
Well they did say they would sign a world-class signing for the last 3 months of the summer transfer window and all that crap about Mr X...so i wouldn't really take anything for granted from them

Victor_Poland
17-12-2007, 12:40
Galiani said there will two, new faces on winter mercato. One of them is Pato (that's for sure). And the other one? Who knows...

Maybe Zambrotta...

p/s
Could you assess my English? :w262:

forward
17-12-2007, 12:44
Could you assess my English? :w262:
I can understand everything you write, so I guess your English is decent :D

Victor_Poland
17-12-2007, 13:00
I can understand everything you write, so I guess your English is decent :D


Oh, that's good, but do I make some terrible grammatical errors ? You know, I try to improve my English every day :)

Mr. Anonymous
17-12-2007, 13:06
It's a bit of a disgrace the way the management are hyping this kid up, it helps no one at all. Pato will be under more pressure to live up to all this talk and if it doesn't happen, we the fans will be up in arms in a short space of time. They should just keep their mouths shut (Galliani, Berlusconi & Ancelotti) and let the kid's football do the talking. It smacks a bit of depseration.

Plus if we do get 1 or 2 players in January (according to Berlusconi) Pato will probably count as 1 of them :rollani: :D

Couln't agree more...they have to learn to shut their pie holes.

And they probably do have two players in mind that aren't on the squad right now, but in case they only land one, they'll tell us that the other was the activation of Pato.

They're such scarm artists. hahaha

Jim_UK
17-12-2007, 13:24
I'm currently reading about Eidur Gudjohnson and his possible departure from the Nou Camp next month. I think (if the price is right of course) that he'd make an excellent addition, he has a very good footballing brain and could be a great link man for us. The more you think about it, the more he seems to be just like JDT.

He'd be a smart purchase.

Mr. Anonymous
17-12-2007, 15:13
Galiani said there will two, new faces on winter mercato. One of them is Pato (that's for sure). And the other one? Who knows...

Maybe Zambrotta...

p/s
Could you assess my English? :w262:

Yeap your doing good. Just keep typing, speaking and reading.

You forgot the word "BE" between the words, "will" and "two." Don't worry though, I make those mistakes all the time and English is my first language. :1avs:
I'm sure everyone understood.

Oh, and I totally agree with what you said. :D

jcastagn
17-12-2007, 15:23
I'd like to see Amauri and Zambrotta as the two new faces. With those two we could secure a top 4 in Serie A and Amauri could help out in the CL. He is a class striker.

Victor_Poland
17-12-2007, 15:52
Mr. Anonymous
I must have missed it, but thanks for the correction :)


I must say, that Milan fanatics are great, even outside Poland :P :1five: . They prove that they are one, big family all over the world. :hug:

p/s
Kaka is FIFA WORLD PLAYER !!! :zany:
:gonova: :ilol: :gonova:

mrki
17-12-2007, 16:31
I'm currently reading about Eidur Gudjohnson and his possible departure from the Nou Camp next month. I think (if the price is right of course) that he'd make an excellent addition, he has a very good footballing brain and could be a great link man for us. The more you think about it, the more he seems to be just like JDT.

He'd be a smart purchase.

I agree 200%. he is veeery underrated player and for me he is an excelent and polivalent player that can play as a striker or as a attacking midfielder ( which he palys even better ). It would be very good to see him in Milan, he can help a lot. Him, Zambrotta and Pato would be just enough for january. But I doubt it.

forward
17-12-2007, 17:48
Ok, guys, that's it! :d55: I officially hate Juventus! :d55:
I have just read this on eurosport:
"Juventus general manager Luciano Moggi is famously said to have commented: "Kaka? We could never sign anyone with a name like that." Of course AC Milan had the last laugh and he went on to become one of the best players in Italy."

Juventus - Merda! Moggi - Merda! Up yours! :d55:
It's really a disgrace for someone in his position to make such insensitive comments. But looking at what happened after all this years, I believe that there is justice in this world.

e-Milan
17-12-2007, 20:06
I can understand everything you write, so I guess your English is decent :D

agreed here Victor,...

so you don't have to go to London anymore to learn English :)

remote2book
17-12-2007, 22:38
agreed here Victor,...

so you don't have to go to London anymore to learn English :)

unless of course your wife or gf forces you :5horse:

Victor_Poland
18-12-2007, 04:51
Berlusconi said, that he has a new transfer policy towards AC Milan: every year new, gifted players will be introduced to the team. They will replace elder players in future.

p/s
Talking to native Englishman is the best way to learn English. (of course, on condition that he or she is not from Manchester :u56: )

Tobinho
18-12-2007, 06:17
Yes - Berlu's words, speaking on Italia 7 Gold:

With regards to the team, Berlusconi's plan is that of rejuvenating the squad.

"Our project is that of gradually renewing the squad with the purchase of young talents," he explained.

"I think that next year we shall have to make purchases in defence, since Paolo Maldini and Cafu will hang up their boots.

"In midfield and in attack we're fine."

"I once said that Gourcuff is the new Zidane. I hope I wasn't wrong," concluded Berlusconi.


****


He also said one of his sons will become president after him.

slicknick
18-12-2007, 08:02
"I once said that Gourcuff is the new Zidane. I hope I wasn't wrong," concluded Berlusconi.

Sounds kinda like a threat, huh? Let's see whether Gourcuff can get his act together or not after this

ACMILAN1983
18-12-2007, 08:24
I think we should seriously take a look at Flamini's situation at Arsenal where there's a contract dispute. With him being available in January for discussions, we could get him on the free next summer as a long term prospect, and his natural versatility is of big benefit in our club. He's managed to break into the Arsenal first team this season (becoming a star like Fabregas) and to do it he's pushed out Gilberto Silva, who we all know is a very good player. At 23 he could be a great long term replacement for someone like Ambro and being French, could help Gourcuff's maturation in Milan.

slicknick
18-12-2007, 08:47
I think we should seriously take a look at Flamini's situation at Arsenal where there's a contract dispute. With him being available in January for discussions, we could get him on the free next summer as a long term prospect, and his natural versatility is of big benefit in our club. He's managed to break into the Arsenal first team this season (becoming a star like Fabregas) and to do it he's pushed out Gilberto Silva, who we all know is a very good player. At 23 he could be a great long term replacement for someone like Ambro and being French, could help Gourcuff's maturation in Milan.


Good idea, I think Juve are preparing to launch a bid for him already...

thomas_h
18-12-2007, 11:00
bayern get breno;
we must get sidnei (internacional) or ivanovic to replace maldini
zambrotta for cafu

prifess
18-12-2007, 11:23
Yes - Berlu's words, speaking on Italia 7 Gold:

With regards to the team, Berlusconi's plan is that of rejuvenating the squad.

"Our project is that of gradually renewing the squad with the purchase of young talents," he explained.

"I think that next year we shall have to make purchases in defence, since Paolo Maldini and Cafu will hang up their boots.

"In midfield and in attack we're fine."

"I once said that Gourcuff is the new Zidane. I hope I wasn't wrong," concluded Berlusconi.


****


He also said one of his sons will become president after him.

well i truely hope we will chance direction... that we will buy new talents: banega, kompany, mertesaker,......

and gourcuff, give him a chance... IMHO

forward
18-12-2007, 12:57
How long did it take for kaka to play at this level?
I remember Kaka playing with Sheva, he was good but nothing close to how he plays now...
Gourcuff needs 2-3 years to show his abilities

Tobinho
18-12-2007, 13:00
From Berlu's words, it sounds like we can expect a young centre-back and a young right-back either in January of the summer, but that's it.

It probably rules out Banega and Marin since he said the midfield is fine - even though it clearly isn't.

Still we have a few promising youngsters; Gourcuff, Pato, Grimi, Marzoratti and it will be good to get a couple more. :)

Victor_Poland
18-12-2007, 13:44
How long did it take for kaka to play at this level?
I remember Kaka playing with Sheva, he was good but nothing close to how he plays now...
Gourcuff needs 2-3 years to show his abilities


First of all Gourcuff has to play more and when Kaka came to Milan he was treated like a star from the very beginning.

kastriot
18-12-2007, 13:52
First of all Gourcuff has to play more and when Kaka came to Milan he was treated like a star from the very beginning.

When Kaka came to Milan,there were talks that his going to go straight on loan at PSG since we already had the Untouchable RUI an Rivaldo, but form the first game against Ascoli he showed that what his made of(two assists if I recall) , and he wasnt respected just just for that,he demanded respect. Not like Yoan going public and threatening that his gonna leave.

Kaka was treated like a star,cuz he played like one from the very beginning.

NAMMY
18-12-2007, 14:43
Berlusconi: We would love Ronaldinho (http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=518685)

Silvio Berlusconi says that if Ronaldinho were to join the club it would please everyone at the club.

The Barcelona superstar has not been at his best this season and has found a regular starting place hard to come by in recent weeks.

This has further fuelled rumours that he is set to leave the club, with Milan and Chelsea strongly linked as possible destinations.

Milan President Berlusconi has never hidden his admiration for Ronaldinho and he was asked again if he would like to sign the 27-year-old.

“Ronaldinho? If he arrived it would please us a lot,” Berlusconi told the Gazzetta dello Sport.

“However I continue to dream about the trio of Brazilian wonders [Kaka, Ronaldo & Pato] without forgetting the others [Inzaghi & Gilardino].”

Berlusconi also looked ahead to this weekend’s much-anticipated derby clash against Inter, and revealed that the Nerazzurri President Massimo Moratti called him to congratulate him on Sunday’s Club World Cup success over Boca Juniors.

“Moratti called me to compliment us on our victory and to look forward to Sunday,” the ex-Italian prime minister said.

“Inter are playing well, they have an adequate Coach and a passionate president. They have all what is needed to win and I believe they will continue to do so.”

Giorgos
18-12-2007, 16:18
bayern get breno;
we must get sidnei (internacional) or ivanovic to replace maldini
zambrotta for cafu

Daniel Alves for Cafu at least one very competent player in midfield and one more attacker.

So propose places

1 GK , i was and i am a fan of Dida but we should look in front
1 RB, it isn't so obligatory but i wan't to get Daniel Alves to start attacking more from the wings also
1 CB not old enough to get experiences near Nesta and to be treated by Paolo in the summer or take a solid one like Mexes
1 LB, one of our most important needs, Janku is more attacking, Zambrotta is not bad but i would love to see new blood, unfortunately we lost Abidal who would be excellent.
1 MF for replacing Pirlo and Seedorf, we also lost Snejder, Gourcuff must sure take much more time, i believe a lot in him
1 FW we need a FW, a scorer, the one who would have an erotic relationship with scoring Villa? I don't think we should keep Oliveira, i also think that Inzaghi will play less as the time goes time and you cannot count on on injury probe Ronaldo. If Pato would be ok otherwise 2.

For those saying two much strikers i respond: Ibrahimovic, Crespo, Suazo, Recoba, Cruz, Adriano, Inter had 6 strikers.... even Tomasson in his late would give us some solutions to our scoring problems he is doing well in Villareal.

Jim_UK
18-12-2007, 16:44
Berlusconi: We would love Ronaldinho (http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=518685)

“Inter are playing well, they have an adequate Coach and a passionate president ...”

hahaha ... booo-urns!

Berlusconi burns Mancini big time!!!! hahaha :ilol: What a put down.

Is Akinfeev still injured? If he is, surely his price would be alot lower than it normally would.

NAMMY
18-12-2007, 18:59
More Berlu craziness:

Berlusconi: Let's Get 'Dinho! (http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/dec18p.html)


Milan President Silvio Berlusconi has unveiled a cunning plan to lure Barcelona into selling them Ronaldinho.

“If, by chance, the deal could be done and the price-tag wasn’t too exaggerated….” mused the patron today on radio station Rtl 102.5.

“I have an idea: why don’t we start a collection among all the Rossoneri fans? That way the supporters could give themselves and their President a wonderful Christmas present!”

Berlusconi is more than happy to stump up the cash himself, as he has said on numerous occasions that he would break the bank to sign the Brazilian.

A transfer is more likely than ever right now, as Ronaldinho is unsettled at the Nou Camp and has been dropped, while the fans are also turning on their former hero.

“I hear news from Barcelona that the player is not going through the best time at the moment,” continued the media magnate.

“Milan are already protagonists on the world stage, but us fans would not reject the chance to have a champion like Ronaldinho as well.”

Berlusconi may have joked about his plans, but Vice-President Adriano Galliani points out there is more than a kernel of truth to it after their Champions League, European Super Cup and Club World Cup triumphs.

“We are receiving calls from many top players, some of them unexpected, and even more agents,” explained the transfer guru.

“A team that has won as much as Milan is enticing to players, but we have a starting XI without equal in the world and it will be very difficult to improve upon this squad.”

Changes will be forced in defence, though, as Paolo Maldini has confirmed he will retire in June and Marcos Cafu could follow.

Meanwhile, 18-year-old Alexandre Pato will finally be available from January, as he turned of age after the September transfer deadline and so was ineligible.

Rando
18-12-2007, 23:20
winter buy? i only have one player in mind: gianluca zambrotta. he will be a perfect addition to us, extremely versatile, reliable and experienced player.
there are great players linked to us like buffon and ronaldinho, but it is just not the right time to buy them on january.

thomas_h
19-12-2007, 02:19
http://goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=518993

Let`s get 1 / 2 of them !
Stendardo for Simic -> good prospect transfer

hitmannq8
19-12-2007, 03:48
galliani is saying that alot of champions and agents have called milan to come here and some of them are people that we wouldnt expect..blah blah blah thats what he said in June and thats what made us start all the speculation on Mr X.. galliani should really just keep his mouth shut and deal with these things on his own

Tobinho
19-12-2007, 05:58
Stendardo for Simic -> good prospect transfer

Stendardo's an improvement over Simic, but it leaves no space for a young future star. Simic should be replaced with Ivanovic etc.

Graeme C
19-12-2007, 06:26
I would prefer De Silvestri to be honest. Even if we did sign Zambrotta, he would be one for the future like Pato and Gourcuff.

Victor_Poland
19-12-2007, 06:26
There are rumours connecting Stenardo with Milan. He's a relatively young defender from Lazio (only 26 years old). He could replace Maldini.

Stenardo's agent says, that Gugliemo is not satisfied with his position in the club and he's considering a leave.

Graeme C
19-12-2007, 06:33
There are rumours connecting Stenardo with Milan. He's a relatively young defender from Lazio (only 26 years old). He could replace Maldini.

Stenardo's agent says, that Gugliemo is not satisfied with his position in the club and he's considering a leave.

stenardo is no way at the same level of Maldini. Think the move is smart, just to bring more reliable backups, just so we can rotate the squad more. Rumours have it that Kaladze is receiving alot of interest from Liverpool.

mrki
19-12-2007, 06:47
A lot of unexpected calls ( italian judge for calciopoli 2, death threats by former Fossa mambers, Ronaldos mother who asks is he ok and is he hungry, I was calling other day to confirm that we want Zambrotta and fast midfielder ( my brother is pure no.10 player and is young, 19( but is ready toi grow a beard!)), Mijatovic called to say that Real will offer their stadium and Atletico's stadium for half of Kaka's leg...)

Seriousely, calciomercato reports that our young defender Albertazzi, remember?, is palying GREAT and is developing into one of the best young players out there. Arsenal showed interest in him when he was only 15. They say he is classical CD with great techniques as well. nice to hear that.

If Carlo wants replacement for Cafu, of course Alves is the best soultion as he can also play in the midfield in a great fashion. Like Eboue does now for Wenger ( Wenger=Arsenal).

But for now, just buy Zambrotta and lets take 4th spot so I can again talk to my friends how we are going for the scudetto next year... This way my only hope in CL. :de3:

ACMILAN1983
20-12-2007, 08:10
Rumours today include Milan wanting to make a huge offer for Drogba (on tribal and goal.com) and Lucio's recent comment about a desire to play in Italy or Spain has sparked rumours of him replacing Maldini (tribal).

The Lucio rumour caught my eye, he could be an interesting purchase.

slicknick
20-12-2007, 08:24
I would prefer De Silvestri to be honest.

TBH, I'd love to see him sign for us

Kaka1899
20-12-2007, 12:47
http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=521066

Bayern Munich star Lucio has opened up the possibility of a move to a top Serie A or La Liga club by saying that he dreams of playing in either Italy or Spain.


The 29-year-old is widely considered as Brazil’s best central defender, and has been at Bayern since signing for them from Bayer Leverkusen in 2004.

“I dream of playing in Spain or Italy and maybe I’ll realise that ambition sooner rather than later,” Lucio admitted.

“It’s almost impossible to convince Brazilian stars playing in Serie A or La Liga to move to the Bundesliga.

“It’s not to do with Bayern, but the country. In Italy and Spain, the culture, the habits and the language are much more similar to Brazil. Bayern can’t compare to that.”



Lucio has played 63 times for the Brazilian national team, and was a star at the 2002 World Cup in Japan and Korea, where he picked up a winners medal.



He also participated in last summer’s competition in Germany, when the Selecao were knocked out by France in the quarter-final.



The classy stopper, who is famous for sparking counter-attacks by bringing the ball out from the back, rejected moves to Juventus and Roma in order to join Bayern in 2004.

Maybe Lucio would be a good temporary solution for the Defence that way it would give us more options seen as Simic seems to be forgotten completley now

Giovanni
20-12-2007, 17:02
I'm currently reading about Eidur Gudjohnson and his possible departure from the Nou Camp next month. I think (if the price is right of course) that he'd make an excellent addition, he has a very good footballing brain and could be a great link man for us. The more you think about it, the more he seems to be just like JDT.

He'd be a smart purchase.
If Iceland is extra-EU , this signing wouldn't be possible. We can sign one extra EU per season and Pato will fill this place.

kastriot
20-12-2007, 17:56
If Iceland is extra-EU , this signing wouldn't be possible. We can sign one extra EU per season and Pato will fill this place.

Iceland is not a EU member state,however maybe they can find a loophole since he comes from a highly developed country....not to sure though.

Giovanni
20-12-2007, 18:06
Iceland is not a EU member state,however maybe they can find a loophole since he comes from a highly developed country....not to sure though.

How developed the country he comes from doesn't matter by any legal standard... and luckily so, this standard would sadly let Italy well behind the first rows :sun:

HO-YOUNG
21-12-2007, 08:25
I think Lucio and Van der Vart would be two great Winter aquisitions. Van der Vart can be played left or right of Kaka and he would give defenders something else other than Kaka and Pippo to think about. he would improve our goal scoring options from midfield. he has excellent ball handling skills and an eye for goal. Just imagine Rafa, Kaka and pato on the same field.

Mehdi
21-12-2007, 11:02
I think Lucio and Van der Vart would be two great Winter aquisitions. Van der Vart can be played left or right of Kaka and he would give defenders something else other than Kaka and Pippo to think about.

He's injury prone. A complete waste of money.

Giorgos
21-12-2007, 13:00
I think Lucio and Van der Vart would be two great Winter aquisitions. Van der Vart can be played left or right of Kaka and he would give defenders something else other than Kaka and Pippo to think about. he would improve our goal scoring options from midfield. he has excellent ball handling skills and an eye for goal. Just imagine Rafa, Kaka and pato on the same field.

Rafa is my favourite Dutch the problem is if he fits in our team... but i would love to see him in reand and black t-shirt....

Giorgos
21-12-2007, 13:01
He's injury prone. A complete waste of money.

who of them?....

Because Rafa has also a delicious wife :wan: .

Mr. Anonymous
21-12-2007, 15:27
winter buy? i only have one player in mind: gianluca zambrotta. he will be a perfect addition to us, extremely versatile, reliable and experienced player.
there are great players linked to us like buffon and ronaldinho, but it is just not the right time to buy them on january.

Ronaldinho anytime before 30 is good IMO. We have a ton of games this year...and as we saw in the Coppa Italia we are lacking quality depth off the bench.
If we want to through in the towel in the CL & Coppa Italia, then we're fine with our pathetic 4th class subs. But if we want to win CL & make some sort of a respectable finish in the league. Some purchases (quality and not panic purchases) are needed.
Beyond the starting 11 we're thin...R10 even if just for the league and Coppa Italia games are fine.
Buy another striker or recall...Oliveira. (don't like him that much but better than nothing)
And Zambrotta's old (and I don't really want him either) but management seems hell bent on doing as little as possible until the summer, in which case we need at least the latter two players that I mentioned if no one else comes in the winter.

NAMMY
21-12-2007, 15:59
MILAN - Inevitably there were questions on the market. Galliani explained: 'Right now we're not following anyone, we have six strikers of which five are confirmed and if Ronaldo does well he will be the sixth. And we have a lot of players out on loan like Oliveira, Matri, Borriello, and Pozzi. An Adriano-Gilardino swap? We'll keep the ones we have. Ronaldinho? He's a Barcelona player and he's unsellable.'

acmilan.com

Mehdi
21-12-2007, 20:36
who of them?....


Van Der Vaart.

http://footballdatabase.com/index.php?page=player&Id=16&b=true&pn=Rafael_Ferdinand_van_der_Vaart

Mehdi
21-12-2007, 20:37
MILAN - Inevitably there were questions on the market. Galliani explained: 'Right now we're not following anyone, we have six strikers of which five are confirmed and if Ronaldo does well he will be the sixth. And we have a lot of players out on loan like Oliveira, Matri, Borriello, and Pozzi. An Adriano-Gilardino swap? We'll keep the ones we have. Ronaldinho? He's a Barcelona player and he's unsellable.'

acmilan.com

I thought Pozzi and Borriello had been sold?

Giorgos
22-12-2007, 04:16
I thought Pozzi and Borriello had been sold?

A good question...

But Il signor Galliani how many we have now in our squad? Kaka is playing in offense.... :mad:

ZvonimirVukic
22-12-2007, 04:36
Il vice presidente rossonero ha confermato l'interesse per due calciatori brasiliani, oltre a Ronaldinho e Amauri, il Milan seguirebbe Diogo, partner offensivo di Pato nell'Olimpica e bomber della Potuguesa e Hernanes, classe 1985, regista arretrato alla Pirlo, in forza al San Paolo


Can someone translate this to me...
thank u

NAMMY
22-12-2007, 05:39
I think Borriello and Pozzi are both co-owned (at least according to Wikipedia). And Marco has been doing well so far ...

Mehdi
22-12-2007, 06:32
There's one thing to bear in mind, Galliani is a liar so we can't trust anything that comes out of his mouth.

goose
22-12-2007, 08:40
Uh oh, something's up, from channel 4.com:

'Dinho storms off to San Siro
Saturday 22 December, 2007
Ronaldinho has had another public bust-up with Barcelona boss Frank Rijkaard, so a January switch to Milan is increasingly plausible.

The Brazilian has been unsettled at the Nou Camp for some time now and his rapport with the Coach, teammates and fans is deteriorating fast.

He was caught on camera during yesterday’s training session as Rijkaard berated him for not putting more effort into the work.

Ronaldinho did not seem best pleased and just a few minutes later walked off the field complaining of a mysterious pain in his left leg.

The Spanish and Italian media claim this was a ‘diplomatic’ injury, as the former Ballon d’Or and FIFA World Player of the Year would only have been left on the bench against Real Madrid.

Milan President Silvio Berlusconi has made it clear on numerous occasions that he wants to bring Ronaldinho to San Siro.

A summer swoop was what everyone expected, but with the tension at breaking point at Barca and Ronaldo’s injury worries stretching on in Italy, the Rossoneri could prepare an audacious January bid.

Berlusconi has to move fast, as Chelsea and Roman Abramovich’s millions are also keeping a close eye on the situation.

Ronaldinho would be available for a January switch despite Alexandre Pato taking the final non-EU member spot in Milan's squad, as the Barca star has a European passport.

Vulli
23-12-2007, 11:33
is simple what we need... a good striker coz Pipo is 35, ronaldo most of the time have injury, Glia can't score continually, and Pato is good but maybe is still to young, i think Huntelar or Benzema would be fine,then a difender coz grande Maldini can't play in evry game and i do not see Kalaze as good replacement so barzagli or Mexes are great zambrotta too and a goalkeeer maybe good option is Amelia... these 3 or 4 transfers would be great for the winter mercato Opinions???

Giorgos
23-12-2007, 12:13
For Rossoneri 11 clean up your messages because i cannot send you any private messages

kastriot
23-12-2007, 12:20
and Pato is good but maybe is still to young, i think Huntelar or Benzema would be fine, Opinions???


Pato is really young, however Huntelar and Benzema are firm established experienced players, who can make an immediate impact in our game :ilol:

rosoneri_11
23-12-2007, 13:27
For Rossoneri 11 clean up your messages because i cannot send you any private messages


OK mate thanks!

inter-1908
23-12-2007, 17:21
Milan need to start thinking about who they are going to get to replace Maldini once he retires at the end of this season. Zambrotta is really keen on making a move to milan, and cannavaro would like to come back to Italy, so 2 great Italian defenders that could mke the move, but dont get me wrong it will be extremely ahrd to replace a player like him.

Mehdi
23-12-2007, 18:21
Milan need to start thinking about who they are going to get to replace Maldini once he retires at the end of this season. Zambrotta is really keen on making a move to milan, and cannavaro would like to come back to Italy, so 2 great Italian defenders that could mke the move, but dont get me wrong it will be extremely ahrd to replace a player like him.

34 year old Cannavaro and 30 year old Zambrotta? Of course you support Inter!

Mehdi
23-12-2007, 18:22
Pato is really young, however Huntelar and Benzema are firm established experienced players, who can make an immediate impact in our game :ilol:

Benzema is only 2 years older than Pato and doesn't have a great deal of experience.

remote2book
23-12-2007, 19:14
Benzema is only 2 years older than Pato and doesn't have a great deal of experience.

i would have to disagree he has expierence in the CL...as well as with france NT and is amazing in league 1...prime example is how well he preformed against rangers..i personally think he is too good to play in league 1 in a couple of years he will realize this and would want to move to a bigger league (hopefully serie A to milan)

Karim
23-12-2007, 19:23
You Need A Goalkeeper!!

zafrul
23-12-2007, 21:02
You Need A Goalkeeper!!

You would think right? The whole world can see that, i wonder which Milan games Berlu and Galliani watches?

zafrul
23-12-2007, 21:06
Pato is really young, however Huntelar and Benzema are firm established experienced players, who can make an immediate impact in our game :ilol:

There's no way in hell we're going to sign Benzema, our management says that Ronaldo has AT LEAST 5 good years still in him, plus we're Catania, we don't have the money to sign anyone, unless they are 34 and free!!!

So, let's just look at over the hill strikers to save our season...

martin
23-12-2007, 23:46
Here is a list of players milan should look into:
Ronaldinho- for obvious reasons. This is the time to get him; he is tired of Barca, wants to play in Milan, will help keep Kaka here, jersey sales, Berlu's dream, revolutionary, n good for another 4-5 yrs.
zambrotta- wants to be here, we all noe how good he is, simply a matter of putting pen to paper.
foggia- had a falling out at current club, and he is just brilliant. I would beg him to come back.
alex- Chelsea defender, we have admired him for ages, and Chelsea mite be liable to sell a few players if they do not win this year. I think we mite have a chance to pick him up if we are persistent, since he would most like love a move here.
Frey- Fiore cannot pay his wages, and he wants some Cl soccer, I think he would easily make the switch.
Rosina- He is consistently awesome and we can use him in all of our serie a games. He would be an excellent back up for pirlo/kaka
g.rossi- young and awesome, one of italy's rising stars. He would be great to have, especially as a 3rd striker.
abbiati- quality backup
oliveira- bring him back for another go at it
marzarotti-good back up
grimi-decent back up
borrielo-excellent 5th striker

players we should get rid of:
gilardino- time to swallow our pride and sell him. He won't fullfull potential with us.
ronaldo-a lot of drama, zero results.
brochi- not very useful anymore, dead weight
favalli- too old, no point of keeping him.
dida- he can go where he wants as he won't accept being a back up
kalac- plane ticket to australia
maldini- retire with grace

i realize this won't all happen, but this is what i have in mind, albeit not very realistic.

pato(inzaghi)

kaka
ronaldinho

ambro
pirlo
gattuso

zambrotta
alex
nesta
oddo

frey


rossi
oliveira(borrielo)

seedorf

gorcuff
rosina
foggia

grimi
kaladze
bonera
marzoratti

abbiati

this would be interesting to say the least.

Jeff
23-12-2007, 23:53
Milan is almost certain to play with 4-3-1-2 with Pato joining Milan next term. Expect to see this for the next half of the season:

Dida
Oddo (Bonera/Cafu) Nesta Kaladze (Bonera) Janku (Maldini)
Pirlo
Ambrosini (or Gattuso) Seedorf
Kaka
Inzaghi (or Gilardino) Pato (Ronaldo theoretically)

This will be the formation in Serie A, with 4-3-2-1 occasionally in Champion League. If Pato is as good as it is rumored, then I don't see how Milan won't be able to catch up 4th spot (11 pts adrift with 3 games unplayed; that's 2pts adrift if Milan wins 3/3).

Is Pato going to be the star of AC Milan next year? Only time will tell...

zafrul
24-12-2007, 00:29
It sounds like we're expecting an 18 year old to save our season...

Unfair and too much burden on his young shoulders, don't you think?

i remember Dunga saying that we'll have the next super star, in 2 years, when he is 20...

prifess
24-12-2007, 04:46
we should invest in new defence and midfield...

defence:
nesta, oddo, kaladze, janku all 28+
get: Kompany, metesaker, de silvestre, breno(but already sold), ramos

midfield:
gattuso, ambro, brocchi, seedorf all 28+
get: baptista, lulinha, banega, schweinsteiger, ...

other top clubs invest each year in new talents+ very good players
MILAN, IMHO a top club(every1 will agree, the most succesfull club in history)
won't buy a thing, only old players, who don't give that extra thing, a surplus to the squad...

which are good:
pirlo, kaka, gilardinho, pato,bonera ON these 5 players we should build our squad


I truely hope silvio and galliani gets the message and should really consider a new trainer or new management to invest in MILAN... we are dieing. our football isn't that good anymore and you cannot stare blindly that we have the best player in the world... he can't do it all by himself(like last year)

if u see real, barca, inter, man U,... they have 1 star (C ronaldo, IBRA, snijder, messi) but the rest of the squad also give that extra special (rooney, cambiasso, ronaldinio, deco, robinhio, baptista, ...)
so you can't rely on 1 person, we should have a team that works hard, but can decide a match... not only on the attacking aspect but also on the defence

inomilan
24-12-2007, 05:35
LUCIO ON MILAN LIST (channel 4) (http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/dec24h.html)

Mystik
24-12-2007, 07:11
Milan is almost certain to play with 4-3-1-2 with Pato joining Milan next term. Expect to see this for the next half of the season:

Dida
Oddo (Bonera/Cafu) Nesta Kaladze (Bonera) Janku (Maldini)
Pirlo
Ambrosini (or Gattuso) Seedorf
Kaka
Inzaghi (or Gilardino) Pato (Ronaldo theoretically)

This will be the formation in Serie A, with 4-3-2-1 occasionally in Champion League. If Pato is as good as it is rumored, then I don't see how Milan won't be able to catch up 4th spot (11 pts adrift with 3 games unplayed; that's 2pts adrift if Milan wins 3/3).

Is Pato going to be the star of AC Milan next year? Only time will tell...
Poor kid has waaaay too much to live up to IMO. He's being expected to produce Ronaldo performances(pre-injury) and that's just ridiculous. His professional career has barely started!

prifess
24-12-2007, 07:47
idd, they should give him time to develop. he is only 18YO, he can't play all matches, he is too young for that.
not that he can't handle it... just he is not fully mature and his musculors will not handle it.

the board should say that they don't expect anything. just that he will become a star in 3 years. but for now ... let em play 1 FULL match out of 2

Ghost
24-12-2007, 07:56
http://goal.com/en/articolo.aspx?contenutoid=525065

Damn a part of me does really feel sorry for him, a few years back he was the daddy of the game and now look at him.

If he had half a brain he wouldn't ever return to Barcelona.

Mehdi
24-12-2007, 08:07
i would have to disagree he has expierence in the CL...as well as with france NT and is amazing in league 1...prime example is how well he preformed against rangers..i personally think he is too good to play in league 1 in a couple of years he will realize this and would want to move to a bigger league (hopefully serie A to milan)

TWO YEARS is not a lot of experience!

Milany
24-12-2007, 08:13
ronaldinho to milan? i say great, we bring him back to shape and partner him with kaka.

zafrul
24-12-2007, 08:46
http://goal.com/en/articolo.aspx?contenutoid=525065

Damn a part of me does really feel sorry for him, a few years back he was the daddy of the game and now look at him.

If he had half a brain he wouldn't ever return to Barcelona.


Hey, anyone speak Spanish? What were the fans shouting at him?

zafrul
24-12-2007, 08:48
ronaldinho to milan? i say great, we bring him back to shape and partner him with kaka.

Still need a striker tho... But it would be a good boost to have Ronnie here...

burns
24-12-2007, 10:24
a player like drogba would make a world of difference for milan in serie a, in my opinion.

i really don't believe chelsea will let him go in the january window, though.

Mr. Anonymous
24-12-2007, 10:40
http://goal.com/en/articolo.aspx?contenutoid=525065
If he had half a brain he wouldn't ever return to Barcelona.

I totally agree with you...the guy should pack it in and make the trip to Milan in January.

inter-1908
24-12-2007, 11:18
Oliver khan seems set to leave bayern in january or in the summer, i think he is a quality keeper, definently in he reach of milan, and he could replace Dida, especially the way he has been playing lately.