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rosoneri_11
24-12-2007, 12:30
Oliver khan seems set to leave bayern in january or in the summer, i think he is a quality keeper, definently in he reach of milan, and he could replace Dida, especially the way he has been playing lately.


I read today inter-1908 that inter is interested for him.
F..k seems that we gonna lose again one world class player! :depress:

peters
24-12-2007, 13:03
hahaha oliver... yeah thats the keeper we need instead of dida!

//Pero rolls his own and goes with christmas spirit like the 2 above...

inter-1908
24-12-2007, 16:00
I read today inter-1908 that inter is interested for him.
F..k seems that we gonna lose again one world class player! :depress:
I dont want him, im quite happy with Julio cesar, he just needs to work on stopping those free kicks! Ive said in the past, livorno has a great goal keeper in Amelia, Milan should throw the dice and take a shot at Amelia.

rosoneri_11
24-12-2007, 17:03
I dont want him, im quite happy with Julio cesar, he just needs to work on stopping those free kicks!


How you can say that man! Thats a great chance to sign a world class GK and you say no? :tongue1:

peters
24-12-2007, 19:24
PLease stop being sarcastic cos i dont know if you really mean it... :D
Oliver is even worse than dida, and his big mouth (and shallow head) come with package too. At least dida normally doesnt go into public speaking nonsense.

Baresi
25-12-2007, 02:14
We can always bring back Abbiati from loan.

Rojo y Negro
25-12-2007, 02:22
The winter break has dawned us. This oportunity should be grasped with both hands to resolve and materialise and future signings.
Ronaldo - Undoubtably the best forward in the last decade. But Milan and Ronaldo need to assess whether he is going to make a return and be an impact or continue injured on the sidelines. I really had high hopes for him but its down to get playing or get out.
Defence - Future signings should be discussed. Whether Galliani wants to admit it or not, the defence is carrying excess years and its time to trim the fat.
Midfield - Banega is the player i would like Milan to sign. It does not have to be in January but please secure the kid to a pre-contract for June. The kid has world class written on his forehead.
Ronaldinho - Either we buy him now in January or June. If he fails to come after that leave the matter alone. He can form a great partnership with Kaka behind the striker. The Brasilian atmosphere will help him settle.
Now Galliani and Berlusconi do something during the winter break. We need to achieve a top four finish no matter what!!!!

mzk57
25-12-2007, 03:43
Any chance of Rafael van Dar Wart coming to ACM??

Giorgos
25-12-2007, 04:05
PLease stop being sarcastic cos i dont know if you really mean it... :D
Oliver is even worse than dida, and his big mouth (and shallow head) come with package too. At least dida normally doesnt go into public speaking nonsense.

Come on Perro taking Kahn is as serious as taking me to replace Dida.... :punch:

Giorgos
25-12-2007, 04:07
We can always bring back Abbiati from loan.

I was liking Abbiati much more than Dida but bring back Abbiati now is like commiting suicide :swars:

Siregar
25-12-2007, 04:13
I was liking Abbiati much more than Dida but bring back Abbiati now is like commiting suicide :swars:

Dont change a thing with the worse one. In Milan Abbiati can only be a second GK.

prifess
25-12-2007, 04:25
Any chance of Rafael van Dar Wart coming to ACM??


Rafael van der vaart; i think JUVE got best cards to buy him although everyone is pushing him to stay at HSV, HSV got great team and IMHO i think he will stay

peters
25-12-2007, 12:44
Come on Perro taking Kahn is as serious as taking me to replace Dida.... :punch:
wooosh, i got scared for a second anyway :D

and its Pero with single r... :zany:

inter-1908
25-12-2007, 12:59
How you can say that man! Thats a great chance to sign a world class GK and you say no? :tongue1:
Dont get me wrong, khan is a world class keeper, but julio cesar is Brazils number 1 keeper now, and he is young, and he will become better and better untill he hits that age when he starts to get worse and worse. Milan could sign khan and put Dida as a subsitute keeper.

Blacktop
25-12-2007, 16:54
Oliver is even worse than dida, and his big mouth (and shallow head) come with package too. At least dida normally doesnt go into public speaking nonsense.
As much as I love his personality, Olli is not world class anymore, nor is he going to just leave Bayern and stick around with some foreign club for all of six months before sailing into retirement.

inter-1908
25-12-2007, 18:47
As much as I love his personality, Olli is not world class anymore, nor is he going to just leave Bayern and stick around with some foreign club for all of six months before sailing into retirement.
He has stated clearly that he will leave, and that he would like to retire with a different club, and i think he should come to Ac Milan, because he may be able to help mIlan overcome there terrible Serie A start.

mzk57
26-12-2007, 04:59
Kahn replacing d!da would be a happier incident than ACM winning CL 4 true fans like me, bcoz d!da :googly: is the 2nd name of cheap goals & we have had enough :d33: But having said that it wold be a disgrace for the German football if one of their all time legend leaves Bundes liga at the end of his 5-star career and retires with an Italian club :( Its simply not acceptable, after that he might not be considered a Bayern legend 2 :dumpf:
So I can't see it happening, but I would be very happy if he comes, even if is for 6 month only :devs:
Forza Oliver Kahn :5ok:

prifess
26-12-2007, 06:46
Kahn is the same as dida, he also makes stupid mistakes. we should get a fresh 1. not that young but 23YO

Arildonardo
26-12-2007, 08:22
Kahn?!? I can't take this serious... 39 next summer and way over the top, far from world-class.

ACMILAN1983
26-12-2007, 09:54
Kahn is the same as dida, he also makes stupid mistakes. we should get a fresh 1. not that young but 23YO

23 is extremely young for a goalkeeper

inomilan
26-12-2007, 09:57
Agent tells Milan: Sign Benzema (http://goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=526583)
then wat r we w8ing for?!

Mehdi
26-12-2007, 09:58
Rafael van der vaart; i think JUVE got best cards to buy him although everyone is pushing him to stay at HSV, HSV got great team and IMHO i think he will stay

Juve are welcome to him. He's always injured.

Tony29.
26-12-2007, 10:29
Juve are welcome to him. He's always injured.
If by "always" you mean the last two months of 2004/05 season and the first 2.5 months of 2006/07, then he is. If i'm not wrong, these were two completely different injuries.


It's impossibile for someone who is always injured to have 50 caps for the Dutch NT at the age of 24. It's also impossibile for someone who is always injured to have played 76 matches and score 40 goals for his team Hamburg in only 2 and a half seasons.

I won't argue with you if he's a good player or not, but he's certainly not always injured.

inter-1908
26-12-2007, 10:47
Kahn?!? I can't take this serious... 39 next summer and way over the top, far from world-class.
Look at Milan, they are the home to all the greats, paolo maldini how old is that guy 39 now!? still playing. Pagliuca 41 and still a great keeper, Im saying they could bring khan to help Milan from moving deeper down into the Serie A table. Khan doesent make the same mistakes that Dida makes, a prime example was the goal Cambiasso scored on Dida, that was a complete papera, basically a flop, that should have been stopped, he could have saved the game for Milan.

Going to what baresi said, bring back Abbiati. That is an option, he is an excelent keeper, i rember seeing him play at Juve, he was an excelent back up for Buffon, i say Milan either buy khan, or bring back Abiatti, there next move is t look at keepers, they dont neccesarily need one terribly bad, but they cnat afford to have Dida messing up easy saves.

pece4ever
26-12-2007, 11:50
if we need a great goalkeeper, than we can buy West Ham Keeper Green, after Buffon he is the best goalkeeper at the moment

zafrul
26-12-2007, 12:27
Agent tells Milan: Sign Benzema (http://goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=526583)
then wat r we w8ing for?!

Our management works in mysterious ways... I don't think Lyon will sell him cheap either...

So don't count on this transfer happening...

Rico
26-12-2007, 12:30
Oh I'd like Benzema

On another note it seems Ronaldo may go back to Brasil. Oh well.

Giovanni
26-12-2007, 13:12
Benzema is a very interesting player. But i think Lyon strategy will be to wait for the next Euro 08 competition, and sell him in the summer, when the value of the player can only increase. They are wise, i think, and he wouldn't come cheap at all.

zafrul
26-12-2007, 13:17
Oh I'd like Benzema

On another note it seems Ronaldo may go back to Brasil. Oh well.

Yeah, good to see that Milan allowing all parties to explore this idea!

Maybe it's good timing that Ronaldo returns to Brazil...

prifess
26-12-2007, 15:41
benzema won't leave lyon cheap, +25mio€ perhaps (he is their golden boy together with ben arfa)

and ronaldo may leave

remote2book
26-12-2007, 15:56
Agent tells Milan: Sign Benzema (http://goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=526583)
then wat r we w8ing for?!

plzzzz milan sign him....i would rather see him than r10 he will deffinetly not come cheap by any means..espicially since lyon made the knockout stages in the CL i dont think they will let him go in the winter i only see him going in the summer hopefully milan can splash out some money for him it would be amazing to see him in milan

Rico
26-12-2007, 17:07
Amazing captures my feelings too, remote2book. :5ok:

Mehdi
26-12-2007, 17:58
If by "always" you mean the last two months of 2004/05 season and the first 2.5 months of 2006/07, then he is. If i'm not wrong, these were two completely different injuries.

It's impossibile for someone who is always injured to have
50 caps for the Dutch NT at the age of 24. It's also impossibile for someone who is always injured to have played 76 matches and score 40 goals for his team Hamburg in only 2 and a half seasons.

I won't argue with you if he's a good player or not, but he's certainly not always injured.

League appearances :

2000-2001. 27 games
2001-2002. 20 games
2002-2003. 21 games
2003-2004. 26 games
2004-2005. 22 games
2005-2006. 19 games
2006-2007. 25 games

That's an average of 22 games a season which means he misses 42% of his teams league games. I call that being injury prone. Players like VDV, Kompany and Robben are useless. There's no point in signing them unless you have a back up so there's no point in signing them in the first place!

Tony29.
26-12-2007, 19:32
League appearances :

2000-2001. 27 games
2001-2002. 20 games
2002-2003. 21 games
2003-2004. 26 games
2004-2005. 22 games
2005-2006. 19 games
2006-2007. 25 games

That's an average of 22 games a season which means he misses 42% of his teams league games. I call that being injury prone. Players like VDV, Kompany and Robben are useless. There's no point in signing them unless you have a back up so there's no point in signing them in the first place!
He was injured only twice (injuries that made him miss more than 3 matches in a row)
The average is 22.8, Dutch league and Bundesliga have 18 teams and 34 matches which means that he missed 33% of the matches (not that it makes big difference). Big part of these 33% goes with the two injuries, while a big part must go for some matches where he was simply rested.

Nesta, out of possibile 190 matches in serie A for Milan played in 128, which means that he also missed 33% of the matches.
He had one bigger injury, but does it make Nesta "always injured" and wasn't he a worthy signing for Milan ?

Like i told you previously : 24 years old player who has 50 caps for his National team (and not any NT but Dutch NT) is not always injured.

Anyway, even if he's going to miss 1/3 of the matches, whoever buys him will get a guarantee for goals and especially guarantee for assists. He's Bundesliga topscorer at the moment.
If it's Juve that will buy him ( i doubt tho) they'll have van der Vaart and Sebastian Giovinco (you'll find some way to disagree, but he's the most talented young Italian player at the moment).
There you go : Van der Vaart and a solid back up ;)

Blacktop
26-12-2007, 19:43
i think he should come to Ac Milan, because he may be able to help Milan overcome there terrible Serie A start.
Getting Kahn is not the magic bullet to overcome our slow start. We have to put the damn ball in the back of the net first. Case in point: nine goals in our last nine games at the San Siro, the derby included. That's just not going to cut it.

Tony29.
26-12-2007, 19:51
Getting Kahn is not the magic bullet to overcome our slow start. We have to put the damn ball in the back of the net first. Case in point: nine goals in our last nine games at the San Siro, the derby included. That's just not going to cut it.
It looks even worse if you count only the matches in serie A.
4 goals in last 8 serie A matches at the San Siro (the derby included).

Back in the old days (not too distant past, the time of Sheva) Milan was easily scoring 25 goals in 8 home serie A matches.

Dida is not the problem, the problem lies somewhere else. Dida's occasional mistakes only make things worst but they aren't the main problem of this team.

Mehdi
26-12-2007, 20:41
He was injured only twice (injuries that made him miss more than 3 matches in a row)
The average is 22.8, Dutch league and Bundesliga have 18 teams and 34 matches which means that he missed 33% of the matches (not that it makes big difference). Big part of these 33% goes with the two injuries, while a big part must go for some matches where he was simply rested.

Nesta, out of possibile 190 matches in serie A for Milan played in 128, which means that he also missed 33% of the matches.
He had one bigger injury, but does it make Nesta "always injured" and wasn't he a worthy signing for Milan ?


You're overlooking one very crucial point. Nesta is 31. VDV is injury prone already and he's ONLY 24. That's not a good sign.

Anyway, even if he's going to miss 1/3 of the matches, whoever buys him will get a guarantee for goals and especially guarantee for assists. He's Bundesliga topscorer at the moment.

Juve are welcome to him. You can't rely on players like VDV.


If it's Juve that will buy him ( i doubt tho) they'll have van der Vaart and Sebastian Giovinco (you'll find some way to disagree, but he's the most talented young Italian player at the moment).

I agree 100%. I think Giovinco is incredible.


There you go : Van der Vaart and a solid back up

You mean a solid back-up for Giovinco!

Tony29.
26-12-2007, 21:22
You mean a solid back-up for Giovinco!
:D
I wish
If Gio turns out to be as good as everyone expects him to be then i don't care at all about vdV.

You may be right, Mehdi. I'm not following Bundesliga enough. I saw vdV saying how he wants Juve and you saying he's injury prone and all i did was checking his stats and he didn't look like someone who spends a lot of time out of the pitch.

Blacktop
26-12-2007, 21:44
It looks even worse if you count only the matches in serie A.
4 goals in last 8 serie A matches at the San Siro (the derby included).

Back in the old days (not too distant past, the time of Sheva) Milan was easily scoring 25 goals in 8 home serie A matches.

Dida is not the problem, the problem lies somewhere else. Dida's occasional mistakes only make things worst but they aren't the main problem of this team.
We scored five goals alone in the Club World Cup, for crying out loud.

mrki
27-12-2007, 05:00
Injured or not, I dont see VDV a good replacement for Pavel Nedved. VDV is class belowe Pavel. Giovinco will probably be revolted ny VDV buy and he'll go to Milan... :)

Papers are writing that Ronaldo is off to Flamengo,aldough acmilan.com is denying it... we'll see aguess aldough I dont mind him off.

If this winter Galliani failes to bring a striker and Zambrotta ( who clearly has no big desire to stay with Barca ), and maybe a fast midfielder, then we are in some real trouble...

Campari
27-12-2007, 05:51
To sign Benzema would be incredible and the best move of our management for almost one year! Van der Vaart is waiting to sign a new contract in Hamburg for weeks, i think he wants to move but he dreams of Valencia.

Rico
27-12-2007, 06:44
A.C. MILAN OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
12/26/2007

MILAN - A.C. Milan denies to have started a negotiation with Flamengo for the transfer of Ronaldo; therefore also denies to have authorized the same Brazilian club for an eventual agreement with the footballer.

:proud:

Mehdi
27-12-2007, 07:05
A.C. MILAN OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
12/26/2007

MILAN - A.C. Milan denies to have started a negotiation with Flamengo for the transfer of Ronaldo; therefore also denies to have authorized the same Brazilian club for an eventual agreement with the footballer.

:proud:

Translation. We are negotiating with Flamengo!

Rico
27-12-2007, 07:13
No, he will stay. Boy I was so happy when I saw the news.

ACMILAN1983
27-12-2007, 08:01
According to Goal.com, Zamparini (Palermo president) has today claimed that he "begged" Galliani to take Toni to Milan in the past, but Galliani rejected him as he thought Toni wasn't good enough. Wouldn't be shocked if true, but I understand Galliani, Toni back then wasn't really showing much promise.

He also said only Juve are offering a deal he'd consider negotiating over for Amauri and Barzagli, and has said he'd never negotiate with Milan and Galliani. Nice to know the little folks running Palermo still love us so greatly.

Rico
27-12-2007, 08:03
Oh well :D

Giovanni
27-12-2007, 08:05
He also said only Juve are offering a deal he'd consider negotiating over for Amauri and Barzagli, and has said he'd never negotiate with Milan and Galliani. Nice to know the little folks running Palermo still love us so greatly.

Bring him ringing euros and you'll see a conversion Saint Paul's style

ThrusT
27-12-2007, 12:11
According to Goal.com, Zamparini (Palermo president) has today claimed that he "begged" Galliani to take Toni to Milan in the past, but Galliani rejected him as he thought Toni wasn't good enough. Wouldn't be shocked if true, but I understand Galliani, Toni back then wasn't really showing much promise.

He also said only Juve are offering a deal he'd consider negotiating over for Amauri and Barzagli, and has said he'd never negotiate with Milan and Galliani. Nice to know the little folks running Palermo still love us so greatly.
We could've bought Toni last year when he convinced everyone of what he is able to do and we didn't.
I thought Carletto requested him along with Ribery.
Galliani's excuse for not buying? We already have Gila.. And Ribery, oh, he wouldn't improve our squad.
Just look at these guys now ffs, they are both magnificent players.


And Zamparini is the classic example of a true jerk, just like Lotito.
It's been known for a while now that he wants nothing to do with Milan, can't really blame him actually.
But he's smart, like Giovanni says, when there's enough money involved he will agree to negotiate. Just like Betis got 18mil and Vogel out of us for their Oliveira.

It seems like nowadays everyone can mess around with us. We used to be so dominant on the transfer market and we always got everyone we wanted.
I guess everyone feared Berlusconi and now that he has lost the power(/read mafia) everyone is just pissing on Milan. :mad:


Oh btw, am I the only one who thinks that Amauri is no good for us?

mrki
27-12-2007, 12:57
Amauri is not a player of Milan class...

We are scouting players too laet my friends, good transfers are made in march or april! not on september like we do.

Toni, ribery... tears are still fresh :)

Rico
27-12-2007, 13:36
It bears no meaning whatsover at all whether a player is signed on November 12th or March 3rd. If we sign Ronaldinho we have something special.

If we signed Ronaldinho the bloody date is irrelevant.

Stitch
27-12-2007, 13:59
No, he will stay. Boy I was so happy when I saw the news.

it doesn't mean anything, as he will be allowed to negotiate with Flamengo in a few days anyway, without needing club's permission.

Stitch
27-12-2007, 14:02
It bears no meaning whatsover at all whether a player is signed on November 12th or March 3rd. If we sign Ronaldinho we have something special.

If we signed Ronaldinho the bloody date is irrelevant.

Oh well, we can sign him in 10 years then, he'll be in "Milan years" by that time :guw:

Graeme C
27-12-2007, 15:24
vogels is on the market again, and for free. As a temp backup for Pirlo we could do a lot worse.

Mr. Anonymous
27-12-2007, 15:27
It bears no meaning whatsover at all whether a player is signed on November 12th or March 3rd. If we sign Ronaldinho we have something special.

If we signed Ronaldinho the bloody date is irrelevant.

I totally agree with you. A good signing is a good signing not matter what month that it is completed.

This myth that a meaningful transfer has to be in the summer transfer window is bull. Having said that it is obvious that most signings that are done in the summer have advantages.

1) Training camp with team means that player has time to learn system.
2) Player has time to gell with team mates on the pitch durning training camp.
3) Being cup tied not an issue.
4) A player's price may be a bit higher (in the winter) especially if he is heavily relied on by his team, and the team is in a position to win silverware. They're not going to want to mess with the team, part with a key player, or lose a chance of some sort of silverware unless you are prepared to compensate them accordingly.

Paolo3
27-12-2007, 16:05
Some players Milan can get for free:

Vogel: He's no longer with Betis and could be available for Jan.
Canizares: He's no longer with Valencia and could be available for Jan.
Giovani Dos Santos: He's yet to sign a new contract with Barcelona and could be available for July.

IMO Dos Santos and Canizares would have and inmediate impact on our team, Canizares would be a short term solution but is better than Dida, and Dos Santos would give new blood to our midfield, and he has a good chance to be a terrific player on a couple years from now.
Vogel could give us more depth to our midfield like he used to when he was with us.

ZvonimirVukic
27-12-2007, 18:07
Canizares would be a short term solution but is better than Dida..........
are u kidding me? kaka as a goalkeeper is better than canizares...
dida is awsome comparing to canizares
sorry for my english

Giorgos
27-12-2007, 18:21
Canizares would be a short term solution but is better than Dida..........
are u kidding me? kaka as a goalkeeper is better than canizares...
dida is awsome comparing to canizares
sorry for my english

Your English are fine, about GK, Dida is much better than Canizares, Kahn, Abbiati. The new GK must come at the summer when we could bid for more players. :argue: .

Paolo3
27-12-2007, 19:16
Canizares would be a short term solution but is better than Dida..........
are u kidding me? kaka as a goalkeeper is better than canizares...
dida is awsome comparing to canizares
sorry for my english

Dude are u drunk?
Dida is a terrible GK, and Canizares had a great career as the Valencia GK, are you sure we are talking about the same 2 guys?

ZvonimirVukic
28-12-2007, 04:59
For sure paolo... Dida had great career with Ac Milan too... he is making mistakes now because he is old... canizares is old too and giorgos is right...we need gk at summer because we need good gk,gk that will be in Seria A and champion`s league.I`am sure that Dida is better than canizares from Jan. till June.
But that`s my opinion

ZvonimirVukic
28-12-2007, 05:00
http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=528165
check this out


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTtxl-8-HbE


what do u think about this guy

prifess
28-12-2007, 05:20
ochoa and akinfieev are the new GK of this year and the next years. they are the future. i've always said to sign ochoa. I HOPE THIS WILL BECOME A FACT that milan will sign him.
he did well in copa libertadores and in mexican national team

Paolo3
28-12-2007, 05:37
http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=528165
check this out


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTtxl-8-HbE


what do u think about this guy

I know this guy very, very well, as a fellow Mexican I have the chance to watch him play every weekend and I'm also a fan of America (his team)....trust me, nothing would make me happier than watch him play for Milan, but it seems like most of Milan transfers these days are old and cheap players, that's why I'm suggesting Cani if only for 6-18 months, Dida had 2 good (OK maybe great) seasons with us but that was it, after the CL incident with Inter a couple years ago everything is on the downside for him and he's getting worse as the time goes on.....he's not our only problem but he's one of them (a big one), IMO the management must fix the GK situaton right away if we want to reach the 4th place this year.

And if you don't like Cani don't worry so much since is highly unlikely that Milan would get him, but I still think that he'll do it better than Dida.

Campari
28-12-2007, 07:21
Your English are fine, about GK, Dida is much better than Canizares, Kahn, Abbiati. The new GK must come at the summer when we could bid for more players. :argue: .

Dida is everything but better than Kahn! Canizares, indeed, is currently one of the worst GK and should be GK in the british national team :D.

HO-YOUNG
28-12-2007, 10:13
Why are we arguing about GK's? If we Keep clean sheets every match we will only draw games 0-0. the problem is we cant score goals. If we can out score our oppositions then we will be able to put a manikin in goal and not worry. We need young fresh legs and ideas in midfield and up front.
Kaka does not only out-pace his oponents but also his snail paced team mates. When he goes on one of his runs the rest of the team are still on their marks.
How can he do it by him self...when he tries to hold it up and wait on them to walk over the other half the defenders crowd him out and he loses the ball. Management is too mean... and unwilling to spend AC MILAN money... We will soon hear about misappropriation of funds in the future. Champions of europe with a first team squad of 13 players...Crap...Milan is on a downward spiral and if we dont see it then we are just like management.
I think there is a need for changes not only in the squad but the hands on the purse!!!!

Arildonardo
28-12-2007, 10:23
Are we losing Banega to Juventus?

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=528733

mrki
28-12-2007, 10:48
Breno -Bayern, Benega -Juve, in the summer: Aquilani - Inter...

WE'll see, but it all looks like another paremeter 0 mercato by Galliani and Berlusconi. And this time we have a team with serious issues.

HO-YOUNG
28-12-2007, 11:30
Breno -Bayern, Benega -Juve, in the summer: Aquilani - Inter...

WE'll see, but it all looks like another paremeter 0 mercato by Galliani and Berlusconi. And this time we have a team with serious issues.

Just goes to show how much interest they have in this our beloved AC MILAN.
I see a decline and fall from glory, riots and then a change in administration.
Dont blame the players or coach for our situation, blame those two...... who are content to talk about past achievements and not future... History is one thing dealing with the task at hand is another.

zafrul
28-12-2007, 11:52
Breno -Bayern, Benega -Juve, in the summer: Aquilani - Inter...

WE'll see, but it all looks like another paremeter 0 mercato by Galliani and Berlusconi. And this time we have a team with serious issues.

Can someone tell me what the hell is going on? I hope it's just the press making things up...

I don't want to hear Galliani's crap about the transfer market being difficult, and our rivals seem to pull it off!!!

Blacktop
28-12-2007, 12:52
Why are we arguing about GK's? If we Keep clean sheets every match we will only draw games 0-0. the problem is we cant score goals. If we can out score our oppositions then we will be able to put a manikin in goal and not worry.
My point exactly.

Are we losing Banega to Juventus?
We can't lose something we never had.

Tony29.
28-12-2007, 12:55
Breno -Bayern, Benega -Juve, in the summer: Aquilani - Inter...

WE'll see, but it all looks like another paremeter 0 mercato by Galliani and Berlusconi. And this time we have a team with serious issues.

Eh, if you go by what the papers say then you can as well say :
Breno-Bayern, Banega-Juve, Aquilani-Inter, RONALDINHO/MOURINHO/DROGBA-MILAN

Rico
28-12-2007, 13:22
Aquilani is going to Inter?!?

remote2book
28-12-2007, 13:53
i agree with tony ....just because the papers are throwing some rumors out there doesnt measn its gonna happen ..but there is alot of talk with GK right now indeed we need a new GK but as great of a plyer inzaghi is he hasnt scored once in serie A ...gilaridino has scored 5 goals in 12 matches...and who else do we have left? absolutely noone pato is coming but with no expierence in serie A ....the managment needs to understand this and buy a new MF and striker...dida has signed a contract extension with us till 2011(correct me if iam wrong) the chances of buying a new GK in january are very slim seems more likely in the summer wasnt lyon intersted in gila? well how about a Gila-benzema swap plus wit ha bit of cash on the side in the summer

Giorgos
28-12-2007, 14:02
i agree with tony ....just because the papers are throwing some rumors out there doesnt measn its gonna happen ..but there is alot of talk with GK right now indeed we need a new GK but as great of a plyer inzaghi is he hasnt scored once in serie A ...gilaridino has scored 5 goals in 12 matches...and who else do we have left? absolutely noone pato is coming but with no expierence in serie A ....the managment needs to understand this and buy a new MF and striker...dida has signed a contract extension with us till 2011(correct me if iam wrong) the chances of buying a new GK in january are very slim seems more likely in the summer wasnt lyon intersted in gila? well how about a Gila-benzema swap plus wit ha bit of cash on the side in the summer

Sorry but i want Gila who can play much better with another striker next to him. What about selling any of our players who are on loan? Abbiati.
At least Gila had made a huge effort and i am one of those who critisized him... :finger:

Hasan Rossonero
28-12-2007, 15:36
My point exactly.




:ilol: :ilol: :ilol: :ilol:

You can't be serious right? Dida has certainly been unfairly scapegoated by all and sundry (including me), but this line of reasoning is Perez-esque.

Dida costs us a lot of points. He needs to go. I think 90% of the fans can see that.

Why play with defenders? We can just aim to outscore our opponents each time. :p1510:

Rando
28-12-2007, 16:15
i heard benzema wants milan, it would be ideal if we swap him with gila.
i am confused with ronaldo's situation, if he cant play why other clubs want to buy him?

i think we must buy zambrotta.
ronaldinho? it depends on when his contract expires with barca and how much the transfer fee is.

we should buy reliable Goalkeeper but not in the winter season though.

remote2book
28-12-2007, 17:14
Sorry but i want Gila who can play much better with another striker next to him. What about selling any of our players who are on loan? Abbiati.
At least Gila had made a huge effort and i am one of those who critisized him... :finger:

ok but with what striker? inzaghi we all know how that combo works...pato? how much more pressure are we gonna put on a 18 yr old ...ronaldo? if he his ever fit....y not get someone who has expierence both club and internatinal level and doesnt need a second striker to be dominate and he is young and pretty much the same age as gila...if people are gonna keep waiting for gila to show his potental because he is so "young" well pato is young and the next big thing benzema is young and is already the big thing hopefuly yhe managment does something about our issues

_Ace
28-12-2007, 18:01
well remote, first off, between 20 and 26 there is 6 years diffrence...

I wouldnt swap gila for anyone as you never know when he can turn things around.. Pippo is only useful in UEFA Cups and competitions...

also,I think Pato-Gila would be Ideal IF Pato adjusts well to Serie A, with Kaka behind them that would be perfect..

Milan's squad is good to beat any team if we change the GK, Lets take Celtic's Match for instance :) that could have ended with a draw, or even a win, same goes for the Derby...
I know that in MM there are many Dida fans, but he just has to get benched...

and also i dont think Milan needs to buy any new defenders to replace Maldini as we already have Bonera, but he just doesnt get enough time to play in CB/RB ;)

Siregar
28-12-2007, 19:59
well remote, first off, between 20 and 26 there is 6 years diffrence...

I wouldnt swap gila for anyone as you never know when he can turn things around.. Pippo is only useful in UEFA Cups and competitions...

also,I think Pato-Gila would be Ideal IF Pato adjusts well to Serie A, with Kaka behind them that would be perfect..

Milan's squad is good to beat any team if we change the GK, Lets take Celtic's Match for instance :) that could have ended with a draw, or even a win, same goes for the Derby...
I know that in MM there are many Dida fans, but he just has to get benched...

and also i dont think Milan needs to buy any new defenders to replace Maldini as we already have Bonera, but he just doesnt get enough time to play in CB/RB ;)


Yeah, Gila only needs partner who can create more space in forward. Pato could be that suitable partner for Gila.

When Maldini retired and Simic went out, I think we do need new CBs. We would have then only Bonera as sub for CB. At least we should have 3 CB as subs considering the injuries record of Nesta and Khaladze. It's better to have one or two of those CBs being able to play both as CB and fullback.

Kaka--7thUCL
28-12-2007, 21:13
I'm really excited about our latest transfer news as far as January mercato is concerned. What excites me both is the Zambrotta-Ronaldinho barca duo, if we can pull that off i'll be getting my favorite player in the world, and a great winger which we'll need in the future, but theres no doubting he'll be used before anyone else on our squad. Ronaldinho's form is always a common concern when bringing up the whole idea of purchasing him, however im almost positive he'll get along a lot better at Milano, and Barca cant expect that of the same amount of money to be offered again because of his form dropped, Chelsea's probably backed out too, so let's just keep it at 50/50. I hope the 50% that's us buying him comes through. Another young prospect we've been looking @ aswell is Doni. I wouldn't mind having him at milan because Dida isn't what he used to be, although hes an okay goalkeeper, a club like milan needs a GREAT goalkeeper, no matter the squad the gk is always the most important man on the team, but i'd take Frey over any goalie but Buffon and Cech, but Doni remains in my top 5 anyhow.
FORZa MilAn

Blacktop
28-12-2007, 21:13
You can't be serious right? Dida has certainly been unfairly scapegoated by all and sundry (including me), but this line of reasoning is Perez-esque.
Dida costs us a lot of points. He needs to go. I think 90% of the fans can see that.
Why play with defenders? We can just aim to outscore our opponents each time.
You got all that out of three little words I wrote?

But since you bring it up...I am aware that Dida will have to be replaced, so I'm not completely delusional. Just because I don't say it outright doesn't mean I haven't thought of it. But most of our current roster should definitely go with him.

rt9
28-12-2007, 21:57
"Most" of the current roster? I dont agree. What we need is a new, quality GK, a reliable 20 goal a season striker to replace Gila and put the pressure off Pato and we should be more or less set. Our starting defense and midfield looks fine otherwise.

Hasan Rossonero
28-12-2007, 23:56
You got all that out of three little words I wrote?

But since you bring it up...I am aware that Dida will have to be replaced, so I'm not completely delusional. Just because I don't say it outright doesn't mean I haven't thought of it. But most of our current roster should definitely go with him.

These are the players that should go:

Dida, Simic, Favalli, Brocchi, and Ronaldo (Ronaldo is great, but he is always injured).

slicknick
29-12-2007, 03:14
Breno -Bayern, Benega -Juve, in the summer: Aquilani - Inter...

WE'll see, but it all looks like another paremeter 0 mercato by Galliani and Berlusconi. And this time we have a team with serious issues.


Yeah, seems like we are set to lose the Banega race as well :(



http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=528733

ThrusT
29-12-2007, 04:01
These are the players that should go:

Dida, Simic, Favalli, Brocchi, and Ronaldo (Ronaldo is great, but he is always injured).
Why Brocchi?I'd prefer him over Emerson any day of the week.

I like Dida but it hurts me to see him suffer on the pitch. Luckily he still has his moments of brilliance and superb reflexes that even Buffon cannot match.
And I don't think Milan is ready to offload Dida, because there is mutual respect. We are a family and Dida is part of it.
Don't get me wrong I want a new goalkeeper but Dida is just too professional(not on the pitch but off :tong: ) to let him go just like that.


Yeah, seems like we are set to lose the Banega race as well :(



http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=528733
Goal is rubbish mate, don't worry.

hany.Egypt
29-12-2007, 04:27
I agree that we need a new goal keeper, but the question is whom ? at the moment Buffon,Casialls,Cech,coupte,Cesar,Dida(yes Dida) are arguebly the best in the world if Milan can buy any one of them then its ok but till then Dida make terrible mistakes but he stills better than Khan Liman, Van der sar , Canizarres, Victor Valdies, Abbiati ...........etc etc.

I dont follow the Scotish league but I heard that Celtic has an excellent GK also heard some good thing about club America,s GK, hope we can sign any of them.

Kimono
29-12-2007, 05:34
Guyz the players that need to go with Dida include

Cafu, Kalac, Fiore, Simic, Sergi, Favalli, Emerson/Brocchi, Ronaldo/Inzaghi

Paolo needs to retire


We need youth in our squad

Rico
29-12-2007, 05:41
i heard benzema wants milan, it would be ideal if we swap him with gila.
i am confused with ronaldo's situation, if he cant play why other clubs want to buy him?

i think we must buy zambrotta.
ronaldinho? it depends on when his contract expires with barca and how much the transfer fee is.

we should buy reliable Goalkeeper but not in the winter season though.
What is your source?

Nice post, btw. ;)

Graeme C
29-12-2007, 05:42
rumours today are that Milan want Frey and Pazzini. And would consider Gilardino as part of the deal.

Rico
29-12-2007, 05:47
Favalli, Dida, Kalac, Serginho, Simic, Cafu and Ba. They are the players I think Milan should ship away.

Siregar
29-12-2007, 05:47
rumours today are that Milan want Frey and Pazzini. And would consider Gilardino as part of the deal.

I prefer Gila. We dont need Pazzini. If we want to buy a striker, buy much better one.

hany.Egypt
29-12-2007, 05:55
Yes if we are going to buy a striker then it should be Benzema.

Campari
29-12-2007, 06:01
Guyz the players that need to go with Dida include

Cafu, Kalac, Fiore, Simic, Sergi, Favalli, Emerson/Brocchi, Ronaldo/Inzaghi

Paolo needs to retire


We need youth in our squad

If you add Ba and Dida, i would agree 100%! That's why it would be careless to focus our transfer activities just on Dinho, a player we need last in our overaged squad.

Rico
29-12-2007, 06:12
We need youth but we cannot just go out and marriage ourselves with the first young player we scan on our horizont.

If you want youth:

Benzema
Kasper Schmeichel
Bojan Krkić
Aquilani
Fabregas

To name a few. :)

Campari
29-12-2007, 06:31
I suggest Philipp Lahm as LB from Bayern. He ist still young but for his age already quite experienced, furthermore he's a all-purpose player. And of course, Benzema would be a great sign!

_Ace
29-12-2007, 06:35
Cafu, Sergi, and Inzaghi still have alot to offer as subs...I agree to still the rest but keep those 3 :)

Rico
29-12-2007, 06:58
I can't even believe people are talking about selling/retiring Inzaghi.

Inzaghi will be good until he is 39. Mark my words.

Arildonardo
29-12-2007, 06:59
Dida, Kalac, Fiori, Cafu, Simic, Favalli, Serginho, Emerson, Brocchi, Ba and Ronaldo can leave... Of course all of them can't leave in january, but within the start of next season they should all be gone. We have a goalkeeping-problem, no doubt about it. And we should get some younger players to replace them, even without all these oldies we would still have quite an experienced squad.

Rico
29-12-2007, 07:10
Dida, Kalac, Fiori, Cafu, Simic, Favalli, Serginho, Emerson, Brocchi, Ba and Ronaldo can leave... Of course all of them can't leave in january, but within the start of next season they should all be gone. We have a goalkeeping-problem, no doubt about it. And we should get some younger players to replace them, even without all these oldies we would still have quite an experienced squad.
Interesting.

MLM
29-12-2007, 08:01
We need youth but we cannot just go out and marriage ourselves with the first young player we scan on our horizont.

If you want youth:

Benzema
Kasper Schmeichel
Bojan Krkić
Aquilani
Fabregas

To name a few. :)

the 3rd name would be awesome.. i saw him everytime he plays for Barca.. this kid is bloody hell talented.

but rumours getting more serious about Ronaldinho (i think he passed his glory.. give chance for the youth :5ok: ).

mrki
29-12-2007, 08:06
first a question: Where is Zlatanov?

Second: stop tlking about players like Krkic, those players will never leave Barca, or will leave in 10 years. It is like Barca now wants to buy Pato :d33:

There are some "problems " with Giovanni Dos Santos and Barca, and if that is the truth, which I doubt it is, it is a great chance for all big clubs.

Gwetting Ronaldinho in january would be a great transfer no matter of his current form. But the player we really need is Zambrotta.

Galliani keeps denying all of it, and there are some reports that Milan will offer a deal that gos like this: Frey+Pazzini= money+Gila. Fine by me!

Graeme C
29-12-2007, 08:19
I can't even believe people are talking about selling/retiring Inzaghi.

Inzaghi will be good until he is 39. Mark my words.

Hes a great player, but we cant really rely on him to play every game.

Graeme C
29-12-2007, 08:32
Do they know something about his EU passport comming through or something?


Milan’s fresh Sheva offer Saturday 29 December, 2007 -- channel 4

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Unsettled Chelsea hitman Andriy Shevchenko is set to discuss a January return to Milan, according to the English Press.

The Ukrainian international was a hero at San Siro between 1999 and 2006 when he found the net 127 times in 208 outings.

Despite President Silvio Berlusconi’s best efforts to keep him, Sheva decided to join Chelsea for £31m but hasn’t looked the same player in the Premier League.

According to The Sun, agent Ernesto Bronzetti will arrive in England within the next week to discuss the possibility of the 31-year-old making a £14m move to Milan.

Relations between Shevchenko and the Diavolo have remained warm and Berlusconi is godfather to Andriy’s eldest son Jordan.

Rumours that Chelsea boss Avram Grant has asked owner Roman Abramovich to sign Bolton’s goal machine Nicolas Anelka are said to have exacerbated Sheva’s unease in London.

It remains to be seen whether a financial settlement can be agreed, but the struggling striker would surely relish the chance to return to the scene of the most prolific period of his career.

It is also unclear whether Shevchenko or Ronaldinho will take priority in the world champions' winter transfer campaign.

kastriot
29-12-2007, 08:51
this is why we are doing poorly in the league, Silvio is busy doing smth else!!!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=zgDlNU03URU :D :D :ilol:

Rico
29-12-2007, 08:59
Hes a great player, but we cant really rely on him to play every game.
Who said he should play every game? Inzaghi is the type of player who can sit out with an injury for 6 months and still score in his comeback.

first a question: Where is Zlatanov?

Second: stop tlking about players like Krkic, those players will never leave Barca, or will leave in 10 years. It is like Barca now wants to buy Pato :d33:
1) I miss him too.

2) I never said anything about Milan buying Krkic. I just mentioned him as a talent of the sport football.

prifess
29-12-2007, 09:14
i never want gila to be sold!

pato- gila would be amazing.

why dont milan consider selling : simic, brocchi, amrbo, serginho, favalli, inzaghi, ronaldo, gattuso

and who will soon retire: nesta, kaladze, janku

so we need fresh blood:
- lulinha
- dos santos
- schweinsteiger
- kompany
- metezacker
- benzema
- ramos sergio
- ochoa
- .....

alot, but i think management want +28YO players so it would be
- del piero
- canavaro
- sheva , who is good
- ...

Giovanni
29-12-2007, 09:17
We need youth but we cannot just go out and marriage ourselves with the first young player we scan on our horizont.

If you want youth:

Benzema
Kasper Schmeichel
Bojan Krkić
Aquilani
Fabregas

To name a few. :)
Good list, it just lacks:

- John Lennon
- Mickey Mouse
- Jesus Christ

:v46:

***********************************

Ps. what bothers me about people talking about market, is that they assume the other teams are just there to feed and serve us. Bojan, Fabregas, Aquilani....the clubs they belong to will surely give them away, and for a bunch of peanuts...

Sometimes people must consider a bit of reality.

MLM
29-12-2007, 09:19
Second: stop tlking about players like Krkic, those players will never leave Barca, or will leave in 10 years. It is like Barca now wants to buy Pato :d33:



lolz.. yeah..i think we could buy him when he is more than 27.. as usual.. that is Berlusconi and Galiani "wise" transfer policy...

Giovanni
29-12-2007, 09:20
Do they know something about his EU passport comming through or something?


Milan’s fresh Sheva offer Saturday 29 December, 2007 -- channel 4

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Unsettled Chelsea hitman Andriy Shevchenko is set to discuss a January return to Milan, according to the English Press.

The Ukrainian international was a hero at San Siro between 1999 and 2006 when he found the net 127 times in 208 outings.

Despite President Silvio Berlusconi’s best efforts to keep him, Sheva decided to join Chelsea for £31m but hasn’t looked the same player in the Premier League.

According to The Sun, agent Ernesto Bronzetti will arrive in England within the next week to discuss the possibility of the 31-year-old making a £14m move to Milan.

Relations between Shevchenko and the Diavolo have remained warm and Berlusconi is godfather to Andriy’s eldest son Jordan.

Rumours that Chelsea boss Avram Grant has asked owner Roman Abramovich to sign Bolton’s goal machine Nicolas Anelka are said to have exacerbated Sheva’s unease in London.

It remains to be seen whether a financial settlement can be agreed, but the struggling striker would surely relish the chance to return to the scene of the most prolific period of his career.

It is also unclear whether Shevchenko or Ronaldinho will take priority in the world champions' winter transfer campaign.

As Graeme said, this is impossible. Sheva is extra- EU, and we already signed Pato. End of the story.

Graeme C
29-12-2007, 09:41
Who said he should play every game? Inzaghi is the type of player who can sit out with an injury for 6 months and still score in his comeback.

renember inzaghi is payed Millions to just play a couple of games.

Tony29.
29-12-2007, 09:48
Yeah, seems like we are set to lose the Banega race as well :(



http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=528733
Please note that the original source of these news is Tuttosport.
Lots of other online sites took the news without mentioning the source but it came from Tuttosport so have in mind that the reliability is dubious.

Banega is one of my favorite youngsters and i do expect him to become big one day. He'll surely improve a team like Juve and a midfield like Juve's one.
But at the time when Juve have very high hopes for their youngster Nocerino, for another of their youngsters on loan to Empoli Marchisio and when Zanetti is playing the best football of his career ( + there's Tiago who's also a central midfielder) , i doubt Juve will decide to spend +15m euro on a 19 yo player who plays in the same position as the mentioned 4.
I expect Banega to be better player than all of them but i really doubt this Juve managment to try fixing something that isn't broken, especially at a time when they need central defenders, full backs and an attacking midfielder much more than they need a DM.

Jeff
29-12-2007, 09:52
As Graeme said, this is impossible. Sheva is extra- EU, and we already signed Pato. End of the story.

Didn't he get EU citizenship already?

Hasan Rossonero
29-12-2007, 10:06
Why Brocchi?I'd prefer him over Emerson any day of the week.

I like Dida but it hurts me to see him suffer on the pitch. Luckily he still has his moments of brilliance and superb reflexes that even Buffon cannot match.
And I don't think Milan is ready to offload Dida, because there is mutual respect. We are a family and Dida is part of it.
Don't get me wrong I want a new goalkeeper but Dida is just too professional(not on the pitch but off :tong: ) to let him go just like that.



Goal is rubbish mate, don't worry.

Buffon is in another league. Dida is not fit to lace his boots. There is nothing Dida can do, that Buffon can't do 30 times better. I am not being unduly cavalier. Honestly, there isn't.

- Buffon's reflexes are one of his strongest points. He reacts quicker than the lumbering Dida. This was true even in 2003, when Dida was in his pomp, and, admittedly, very good.
- Buffon directs his penalty box with consummate ease, and Dida has forgotten how to even direct himself (the derby and Celtic incident).
- Maybe, just maybe, you can make a case that Buffon is suspect on crosses. Yet, Dida makes him look good even here.

There is no need to insultingly show Dida the door because he has been a good servant for us. He never makes any controversial comments to the media, and the Celtic incident was his one and only public blunder. I just think Galliani and co. need to thank him and move on. And we need to thank him too. I know it's hard when he plays like he did in the derby, but let's not forget his valuable contribution in the past.

Brocchi is a good sub, but he is still short of Milan quality. I still think Emerson has something to give, at least when he is not injured. :mad:

MLM
29-12-2007, 10:19
Didn't he get EU citizenship already?

the answer is on this article:
“We cannot take him, as we only have one place for a non-EU player and that will go to Alexandre Pato in January,” Galiani said about Sheva.

source goal.com

Shevchenko Set For Juventus?
http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=503603

so i think he still non-EU :)

Rico
29-12-2007, 10:41
How can Sheva be non-EU when his nationality is Ukranian? I thought Ukraine were now part of EU.

Tony29.
29-12-2007, 10:44
How can Sheva be non-EU when his nationality is Ukranian? I thought Ukraine were now part of EU.
Yeah right, like the Russians will ever let them be a part of EU :zany:
Ukraine is not part of the European Union.

Rico
29-12-2007, 10:45
I see. My bad.

Graeme C
29-12-2007, 10:47
only way sheva could play for us is for him to apply for a italian passport as his kid was born in italy. Other than that he wil have to wait until the summer.

Anyone else hear that 'equipe has reported that Mourinho has signed a pre contract with us?

Rico
29-12-2007, 11:03
Carlo will stay.

Arildonardo
29-12-2007, 11:33
"Finally young French midfielder Yoann Gourcuff, a player likened by some to a young Zinedine Zidane, has been told by Coach Carlo Ancelotti that he has no future with the Rossoneri."

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=529691

MLM
29-12-2007, 11:50
the rumours about he wants to move to Arsenal is very strong.. no wonder because so much his french mates there... but Gou has been playing a bad season. couldn't compete with Pirlo i guess..

Arildonardo
29-12-2007, 11:56
the rumours about he wants to move to Arsenal is very strong.. no wonder because so much his french mates there... but Gou has been playing a bad season. couldn't compete with Pirlo i guess..
Although he hasn't played much this season, I think it's way too early to let him leave. There are others that should leave instead of him. Strengthening a CL-rival with one of Europe's best young prospects doesn't seem right or smart to me... Especially as we're about to renew our squad and get rid of some old garbage.

MLM
29-12-2007, 12:02
Although he hasn't played much this season, I think it's way too early to let him leave. There are others that should leave instead of him. Strengthening a CL-rival with one of Europe's best young prospects doesn't seem right or smart to me...

agreed.. but Milan i bet had no choice.. Milan was expecting Gou had a rocket career like Kaka who stole the attention when Rui was the 1st choice in Milan.but apparently Gou couldn't make it half as Kaka did.so instead of throwing Pirlo .. better for Milan to let go of Gou.i wasn't saying sell Gou is the better way but i believe loan him to a prestige club will be good experience for him.unless he doesn't wants to be loan and choose to go permanently...

Rico
29-12-2007, 12:10
agreed.. but Milan i bet had no choice.. Milan was expecting Gou had a rocket career like Kaka who stole the attention when Rui was the 1st choice in Milan.but apparently Gou couldn't make it half as Kaka did.so instead of throwing Pirlo .. better for Milan to let go of Gou.i wasn't saying sell Gou is the better way but i believe loan him to a prestige club will be good experience for him.unless he doesn't wants to be loan and choose to go permanently...
Bingo.

Here is my opinion on the matter:

Gourcuff has been giving his chances and did not play better than his team mates who are playing in his position.

The 'New Zidane' needs time and playing time in Serie A to adapt to Italian football which is physically harder and defensively stronger than the French league where he came from. Time and patience is the key word for him. He can blossom like a flower, I believe that. He is a good talent. But his development will only stop if he can't play.

The solution is to loan him out to a Serie A team who would let him play on a regular basis. And it needs to be a team that is both not a direct rival for Lo Scudetto and also not a relegation battler. Like Udinese for instance.

If say we loaned him out to Roma and he suddenly started playing up to his rep we would’ve gifted a direct rival for the title a weapon to use against us. And if we loaned him out to Livorno and he did OK and slowly improved by playing regularly but they relegated to Serie B then the next season he would have to either play in a league that is not good enough for him to grow in or be loaned out again to another club. And frankly I don’t think that would benefit the young man at all. :)

Mystik
29-12-2007, 12:12
That's funny...we already have too few creative midfielders and we're going to sell one of those? I highly doubt...unless the management are willing to spend extra money. We're thin enough in the creativity department as is.

Gourcuff has been giving his chances and did not play better than his team mates who are playing in his position.

1. What chances are you talking about? I think he started two matches so far this season. The rest have been substitute appearances for 5-10 minutes in which there's little he can do anyway. I can recall one match where he actually got a decent time playing as a substitute as he was brought on around the 60th minute.

2. He was not better, but he definitely was not worse.

Arildonardo
29-12-2007, 12:12
agreed.. but Milan i bet had no choice.. Milan was expecting Gou had a rocket career like Kaka who stole the attention when Rui was the 1st choice in Milan.but apparently Gou couldn't make it half as Kaka did.so instead of throwing Pirlo .. better for Milan to let go of Gou.i wasn't saying sell Gou is the better way but i believe loan him to a prestige club will be good experience for him.unless he doesn't wants to be loan and choose to go permanently...
If our management will compare every young player we sign to Kaká, then they're bound to be disappointed almost every time.

Well... This is still just a rumour, so let's hope he stays with us. :5ok:

Rico
29-12-2007, 12:13
That's funny...we already have too few creative midfielders and we're going to sell one of those? I highly doubt...unless the management are willing to spend extra money. We're thin enough in the creativity department as is.
Kaka, Seedorf, Pirlo and Ambrosini.

Mystik
29-12-2007, 12:17
Kaka, Seedorf, Pirlo and Ambrosini.
I'd hardly call Ambrosini a creative midfielder. He's a DM with a decent pass but I wouldn't call him creative by any means. That leaves us with 3 creative midfielders. Do you honestly find that sufficient ?

peters
29-12-2007, 12:23
renember inzaghi is payed Millions to just play a couple of games.
last time i checked he scored in every trophy-winning-match this year... end of discussion :)

Blah, dont start on how gorky didnt prove himslef this season please, if thats the case we should loan out half milan team during this winter break.

MLM
29-12-2007, 12:29
Bingo.

Here is my opinion on the matter:

Gourcuff has been giving his chances and did not play better than his team mates who are playing in his position.

how u called that chances? count for the big match that he did absent :)


The 'New Zidane' needs time and playing time in Serie A to adapt to Italian football which is physically harder and defensively stronger than the French league where he came from. Time and patience is the key word for him. He can blossom like a flower, I believe that. He is a good talent. But his development will only stop if he can't play.

I'd rather him getting playing time+becoming a better player at another club for the next few months than sitting on the bench here and when he's called upon not perform that well.sitting nicely on the bench would absolutely kill his talent.. arsenal would be a perfect choice for him to dig some experiences :)


If our management will compare every young player we sign to Kaká, then they're bound to be disappointed almost every time.

who is Gou's nickname? Lil Zidane, eh? ;) behalf on that name sure that will be a lot preasure for him..

Kaka--7thUCL
29-12-2007, 13:57
14m for shevchenko. lol, i hope it doesnt fall through. I know, it's Shevchenko. But how can we take back a 30 + yr old striker? that's like buying another ronaldo.. Only i think ronaldos even better tehn shevchenko.

inter-1908
29-12-2007, 14:06
14m for shevchenko. lol, i hope it doesnt fall through. I know, it's Shevchenko. But how can we take back a 30 + yr old striker? that's like buying another ronaldo.. Only i think ronaldos even better tehn shevchenko.
It would be a mistake to bring back shevchenko, and especially how he is 30+years old as you have said, he wont be there to long, and he isnt the same Sheva as he was years ago. We have heard of all these rumours for example ronaldhino, dida leaving and ssheva, but nothing ever happens. Apparently though Ronaldhino has already tied a deal with Milan. His agent (brother) was here in Milan the other day, maybe to make a deal?

Rico
29-12-2007, 14:23
Sheva is always welcome. Always. In Milan he can always find shelter.

Oh, thanks for the update on the Ronaldinho situation. :)

Mystik. IMHO Ambrosini is a creative player. :)

About the so called lack of creativity in Milan: IMO we have enough creativity in this team. There is Pirlo with the deep passes, Kaka with the audacious dribbles, passes, shots and magic. Seedorf with the shots and dribbles.

It's not that bad. :)

inter-1908
29-12-2007, 14:30
Sheva is always welcome. Always. In Milan he can always find shelter.

Oh, thanks for the update on the Ronaldinho situation. :)
No problem. Last night he came out of the Melia hotel. i think this Ronaldhino situation will actually become reality for Milan, it will be good for Italy and of course Milan.

I didnt know how the milan felt about Sheva until you said he was always welcome. I thought all the Milan fans despised him. And once i heard the Milan owner called him a dog. :delol:

remote2book
29-12-2007, 14:32
any realistic chanc eof diemitar barbitov (cant spell his name) he is an amazing playing striker and can easily play as a partner alongisde gila i know he had a bust up when martin jol was there but since than he seems to be playing in the first team had 4 goal today actually

inter-1908
29-12-2007, 14:35
any realistic chanc eof diemitar barbitov (cant spell his name) he is an amazing playing striker and can easily play as a partner alongisde gila i know he had a bust up when martin jol was there but since than he seems to be playing in the first team had 4 goal today actually
If milan can buy Ronaldhino, then i say they go for Ronaldhino ahead of this guy. From what ive seen in the last few days, just here in the city, it seems there are talks, and maybe a deal with Ronaldhino. He can be more productive.

400th post at Milan MANIA! Centenary inter-1908 4 times over! :p286:

Giorgos
29-12-2007, 14:40
Which are our non-EU....?

Graeme C
29-12-2007, 14:53
simic
dida
pato
serghino
cafu

kalac might be in there 2.
maybe?

Giorgos
29-12-2007, 14:58
According to Gazzetta (non the online one): 8 players will leave our team in the summer Dida, Simic (may loan), Sergihno, Cafu, Maldini (retiring), Favalli, Ronaldo, Gourcuff....

Giorgos
29-12-2007, 15:02
simic
dida
pato
serghino
cafu

kalac might be in there 2.
maybe?


It's silly to have in one of your places Sergihno who doesn't play even Cafu and to cannot take Sheva or another no Eu-attacker :d33: .

About Krkic i agree that there is no chanse of leaving Barcelona, while Dos Santos is a good chanse because he demands more monet from the Catalans....

Rico
29-12-2007, 15:17
No problem. Last night he came out of the Melia hotel. i think this Ronaldhino situation will actually become reality for Milan, it will be good for Italy and of course Milan.

I didnt know how the milan felt about Sheva until you said he was always welcome. I thought all the Milan fans despised him. And once i heard the Milan owner called him a dog. :delol:
This was my opinion. For me Sheva should always be welcome in Milan. I do not know how my fellow Milanisti feel about it. :)

ACMILAN1983
29-12-2007, 16:27
I don't think Gourcuff will be sold (that would be a stupid move imo), though a loan move doesn't seem unrealistic for a season.

who is Gou's nickname? Lil Zidane, eh? ;) behalf on that name sure that will be a lot preasure for him..

His nicknames are "La Petit Zidane" and "L'Arc En Ciel" if I remember rightly. Some posters here are also fond of calling him Gorky :)

2. He was not better, but he definitely was not worse.

I must disagree a little there, mostly because we're comparing him to Kaka, Pirlo and Seedorf who have all had reasonable seasons if not fairly good.

slicknick
29-12-2007, 16:36
Good list, it just lacks:

- John Lennon
- Mickey Mouse
- Jesus Christ





:haha: :haha: That's certainly funny to meeeeee

ACMILAN1983
29-12-2007, 16:41
Oh, I forgot to mention, goal.com has a rumour that Milan are trying to buy Frey and Pazzini from Fiorentina with Gila going the other way

inter-1908
29-12-2007, 16:42
Oh, I forgot to mention, goal.com has a rumour that Milan are trying to buy Frey and Pazzini from Fiorentina with Gila going the other way
Yes i just read that, it may be true, Frey has gotten so many offers, from so many other clubs like Milan, he would be an excelent/ perfect replacement for Dida. I was thinking it would be best for Miland fiorentina to swap the 2 goalies.

Baresi
29-12-2007, 16:51
If that Goal.com story about 8 Milan players are being let go is true, I really hope Kalac, Emerson and Ba are included. On our current starting squad, we have a problem on our right side with Oddo and Gattuso. Gattuso has been nearly non-existent in most matches and Oddo's performances can speak for themselves. Then only if-but I have I about any Milan player leaving is Gourcuff, simply because he could become a star elsewhere but what if he stays at Milan and languishes on the bench? See my point. I don't see why he can't start for us anyways. It's not like Ambrosini really excels at his position. He's an average player and Gourcuff has the abilities to be an extraordinary player so it seems like a win-win situation just to check out the kid. If only Ancelotti would do something about it.

Arildonardo
29-12-2007, 16:59
It's silly to have in one of your places Sergihno who doesn't play even Cafu and to cannot take Sheva or another no Eu-attacker :d33: .
I think the problem is that we are not allowed to buy more than 1 non-EU player from a foreign club per season, and we've already bought Alexandre Pato.

_Ace
29-12-2007, 17:22
Baresi, I think Gattuso has done and always does well in all the matches he plays, unless the times he decides to have a fight with someone :D

oh also, i dont think Carlo will let Gila go, unless there's someone to replace him ;)

and isnt Ronaldinho a non EU-Player? :|

Arildonardo
29-12-2007, 17:25
Baresi, I think Gattuso has done and always does well in all the matches he plays, unless the times he decides to have a fight with someone :D

oh also, i dont think Carlo will let Gila go, unless there's someone to replace him ;)

and isnt Ronaldinho a non EU-Player? :|
Nope, Ronaldinho became a Spanish citizen in January 2007.

Giovanni
29-12-2007, 17:38
This was my opinion. For me Sheva should always be welcome in Milan. I do not know how my fellow Milanisti feel about it. :)

No way, mate. We robbed Abramovich 46 millions, and i don't won't to give him not even 1 euro back. Milan staff already knew Sheva was finished, it has been somehow confirmed in a football show by Carlo's assistent Gigi Balestra. That's why we let him go.
Otherwise, knowing Berlusconi, we'd never ever let him go, just as we're doing with Kakà.

Shevchenko is finished. He doesn't have any motivation to be back at decent levels. More: it has been confirmed that in his last years in Milan his character was pretty bitchy and arrogant, and the dressing room isn't exaclty keen on him coming back, beyond the usual polite statements.

Mystik
29-12-2007, 18:37
I must disagree a little there, mostly because we're comparing him to Kaka, Pirlo and Seedorf who have all had reasonable seasons if not fairly good.

I'm talking about the specific matches Gourcuff played, not as a whole. When comparing his performances in the matches he played to the performances of Pirlo/Seedorf in those particular games, IMO I didn't see much difference.

Graeme C
29-12-2007, 19:07
No way, mate. We robbed Abramovich 46 millions, and i don't won't to give him not even 1 euro back. Milan staff already knew Sheva was finished, it has been somehow confirmed in a football show by Carlo's assistent Gigi Balestra. That's why we let him go.
Otherwise, knowing Berlusconi, we'd never ever let him go, just as we're doing with Kakà.

Shevchenko is finished. He doesn't have any motivation to be back at decent levels. More: it has been confirmed that in his last years in Milan his character was pretty bitchy and arrogant, and the dressing room isn't exaclty keen on him coming back, beyond the usual polite statements.

i agree with what you say, i was soo angry when he threw the captains armband on the floor, and ancellotti hasnt really fallen out with any other players at milan..so. But the management have really failed to replace him, Oliviera was a compremise and a huge risk. Ronaldo was a risk that payed off last season, but hasnt worked a second time.

Way i see it, i dont miss Sheva. But i miss the amount of goals and assists he had.

Jeff
29-12-2007, 20:33
I just want to asser that the fact that Milan thus far failed to replace Shevchenko is in part due to the football scandel.

Sheva is done. Period. We have lots of posts on Sheva when he left, and I don't think he deserves any more attention. He gets what he wants...

addicted
29-12-2007, 21:09
No way, mate. We robbed Abramovich 46 millions, and i don't won't to give him not even 1 euro back. Milan staff already knew Sheva was finished, it has been somehow confirmed in a football show by Carlo's assistent Gigi Balestra. That's why we let him go.
Otherwise, knowing Berlusconi, we'd never ever let him go, just as we're doing with Kakà.

Shevchenko is finished. He doesn't have any motivation to be back at decent levels. More: it has been confirmed that in his last years in Milan his character was pretty bitchy and arrogant, and the dressing room isn't exaclty keen on him coming back, beyond the usual polite statements.

haha sorry but thats just funny,if there so good @seeing what players are finished how come were still stuck whit the likes of cafu,favali and other **** players?

goose
29-12-2007, 21:09
Sheva - no, his career is done and dusted
Ronaldinho - no, he's fat and expensive
Benzema - yes, great talent
Berbatov - yes, excellent hard worker, but is he cup-tied due to his participation in the UEFA Cup?
Martins - yes, relatively cheap, has Serie A experiences, and not cup-tied

Loan out Gourcuff to a second tier Serie A team, see how well he acquits himself and then sell him off if he can't get it done.

Please at least do something in the mercato Milan! And be smart about it!

zafrul
29-12-2007, 21:29
Can someone explain all this talk about Sheva, as the move can't happen anyway during winter (the non-Eu issue)...

But I agree with most of you, not sure if it was just me, but his final season with Milan I saw Sheva 'slowed' down quite a bit, and i'm not surprised he's struggling at Chelsea..

Jeff
29-12-2007, 22:10
haha sorry but thats just funny,if there so good @seeing what players are finished how come were still stuck whit the likes of cafu,favali and other **** players?


Cafu, Favali, and the other that you are talking about are never meant to be a first team player anymore; I think Giovanni is referring to the starting line-up; while Sheva will easily make it to the Milan bench, I suspect that it'll take him another few motnhs, if not more, to once again fit in with Milan's sthyle of play simply because he is growing accustomed to English style of playing.

All these talks will be useless once we see how Pato plays, and I sincere hope that he'll be the star of our second season...

Blacktop
30-12-2007, 00:41
not sure if it was just me, but his final season with Milan I saw Sheva 'slowed' down quite a bit, and i'm not surprised he's struggling at Chelsea.
It's not just you. I can't remember if I've posted this in the past, but whenever we bring up Sheva's last days with Milan, I always think of this picture from the second leg of our CL loss to Barcelona. He looked as if his mind was somewhere else during that match.

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u45/BMWTaylor/42-16726158.jpg

MLM
30-12-2007, 00:48
His nicknames are "La Petit Zidane" and "L'Arc En Ciel" if I remember rightly. Some posters here are also fond of calling him Gorky :)



and what is the meaning of Gorky? :)

Blacktop
30-12-2007, 00:55
and what is the meaning of Gorky? :)
It's just the shortening of "Gourcuff." I don't know, I always think of "Gorky Park" whenever I see it.

remote2book
30-12-2007, 01:02
and what is the meaning of Gorky? :)

basically a short term for "GORCUFF" so shot version its "Gorky" i think if any1 has a better explination than plz feel free

MLM
30-12-2007, 01:40
It's just the shortening of "Gourcuff." I don't know, I always think of "Gorky Park" whenever I see it.

lolz.. same as u i looked that as Scorpion's song too :D

prifess
30-12-2007, 04:49
finally some good news.
a fresh start for milan in june...
only the possible gourcuff transfer, is in my opinion not so good. why waste a talented kid. give him some time to develop. (or loan him out)

i hope milan finally will go deep in their pockets, to rebuild the squad ( and not only ronaldinhio :s )

ACMILAN1983
30-12-2007, 06:46
and what is the meaning of Gorky? :)

lol, BMW's right about it being a shortened version of his name, I believe Zlatanov (a highly regarded member here) was one of those who started off the whole Gorky thing ;)

hany.Egypt
30-12-2007, 07:30
Berbatov - yes, excellent hard worker, but is he cup-tied due to his participation in the UEFA Cup?
If I am not mistaken participating in the UEFA cup does not make the player cup tied, so Berbatov still can play in the CL, and I must say that I am not a big fan of him I'd rather Benzema or Hauntlaar IMO they are better by miles.

MLM
30-12-2007, 07:50
ronaldinho saga is getting closer apparently.. :)

prifess
30-12-2007, 07:55
http://www.voetbalprimeur.nl/index.php?t=news&id=66176&c=11

in general they say: banega will go to valencia. koeman wants him... the only thing blocking him is the tranfer fee of 18mio€

Tony29.
30-12-2007, 08:52
Chelsea reunion in Milan?
Sunday 30 December, 2007

Former Chelsea manager Josè Mourinho and current Blues striker Didier Drogba will join Milan this summer, according to L’Equipe.

The French newspaper claims that the Portuguese Coach [pictured] has already signed a pre-contract with Milan to join them in July.

Mourinho is currently out of work after his Stamford Bridge exit in September and has claimed he would like a move to Italy.

The self-proclaimed ‘Special One’ enjoyed plenty of success at both Porto and Chelsea, as well as being assistant manager at Barcelona.

It is though that current Milan boss Carlo Ancelotti will take the place of Frank Rijkaard at Barcelona, as the Dutchman is under intense pressure at the Nou Camp.

L’Equipe goes on to claim that Drogba, who is reportedly unsettled in London after Mourinho’s departure, would then follow Mourinho to Milan.

The Rossoneri could make a £25m bid for the Ivorian striker, but Chelsea will be reluctant to release arguably their most important player.

Meanwhile, full-back Gianluca Zambrotta is also hoping to join the Rossoneri in January after struggling to establish himself at Barcelona this term.

The Italian international could move to San Siro for as little as £5m.

Source: Channel 4

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I believe everything mentioned in the article can happen during the summer. Only Drogba's price tag is a little exeggarated because £25m (36m eur) is a little too much for a 30 years old player (Drogba is 29 but he'll be 30 in 3 months)

Siregar
30-12-2007, 08:58
I hope, it wont ever happen. Maurinho's type of play is boring.

Graeme C
30-12-2007, 09:03
so was carlo before he came to milan

Graeme C
30-12-2007, 09:10
if we do sign ronaldinho i hope the management wont give up going for Benzema and Amauri in the summer.

Siregar
30-12-2007, 09:14
so was carlo before he came to milan

not really, actually. whoever coaches juve, the same stlye of play still appears :D so dont blame ancelotti.

Tony29.
30-12-2007, 09:16
so was carlo before he came to milan
No, Carlo's Juve wasn't boring at all. It was, imo, the most attacking-minded but it was also the most ineffective Juve in the last 30 years. He remains the only Juve coach that didn't win anything in the last 30 years, even though he had a team with Zidane, Del Piero, Trezeguet, Inzaghi, Henry, Zambrotta, Van der Sar and Davids.

If Carlo leaves i think Mourinho is one of the rare ones who can immediately make a scudetto and CL favorite out of Milan. He takes all the presure on him which leaves his players to work in peace and he also has the guts to ask and get players from Berlusconi.

Russo-Neri
30-12-2007, 09:34
About Ronaldinho - We all hear about his reported unrest at Barca and his reported desire to leave. I was thinking, he's a Nike endorser. Milan gets their jerseys from Adidas - BUT that adidas contract expires this season. Considering the magnitude of a sale for a player as famous as Dinho, Milan might consider a change in kit suppliers to make the deal happen. Nike may even provide Dinho some financial incentive to change to Milan since his move could win them Milan as a client. In essence, Nike may help subsidize the move.

I know, my imagination is getting ahead of me. But I remember in years past that Dinho's Nike links were an obstacle to signing him to Milan and I just realized that the contract with Adidas is done this year...

zafrul
30-12-2007, 09:43
About Ronaldinho - We all hear about his reported unrest at Barca and his reported desire to leave. I was thinking, he's a Nike endorser. Milan gets their jerseys from Adidas - BUT that adidas contract expires this season. Considering the magnitude of a sale for a player as famous as Dinho, Milan might consider a change in kit suppliers to make the deal happen. Nike may even provide Dinho some financial incentive to change to Milan since his move could win them Milan as a client. In essence, Nike may help subsidize the move.

I know, my imagination is getting ahead of me. But I remember in years past that Dinho's Nike links were an obstacle to signing him to Milan and I just realized that the contract with Adidas is done this year...

Just like in Football, it's Adidas v Nike... Milan (Adidas) v Inter (Nike)... Real (adidas) v Barca (Nike)...

I actually stopped buying Nike stuff because of this... Started to think the Nike brand was posers, a.k.a Inter...

So, I wouldn't want Milan to switch to Nike apparel...

No offence to the Inter dudes in this forum. PEACE!

Graeme C
30-12-2007, 09:43
adidas might be extended out tho, plus kaka is sponcered by adidas.

Graeme C
30-12-2007, 09:53
Just like in Football, it's Adidas v Nike... Milan (Adidas) v Inter (Nike)... Real (adidas) v Barca (Nike)...

I actually stopped buying Nike stuff because of this... Started to think the Nike brand was posers, a.k.a Inter...

So, I wouldn't want Milan to switch to Nike apparel...

No offence to the Inter dudes in this forum. PEACE!

no i agree hahaha

i like the adidas classic line, as a indie boy i can get away with wearing my i heart milan retro funky jacket with jeans :rotfl:

Rico
30-12-2007, 11:52
Go to acmilan.com!!! :delol::D

Bosniaco
30-12-2007, 16:23
About Ronaldinho - We all hear about his reported unrest at Barca and his reported desire to leave. I was thinking, he's a Nike endorser. Milan gets their jerseys from Adidas - BUT that adidas contract expires this season. Considering the magnitude of a sale for a player as famous as Dinho, Milan might consider a change in kit suppliers to make the deal happen. Nike may even provide Dinho some financial incentive to change to Milan since his move could win them Milan as a client. In essence, Nike may help subsidize the move.

I know, my imagination is getting ahead of me. But I remember in years past that Dinho's Nike links were an obstacle to signing him to Milan and I just realized that the contract with Adidas is done this year...
Consider this: I think last seson or season before, Galliani was asked about changing to Nike or something, he said:" No we are going to stick with Adidas because Adidas was with Milan when Milan was doing poor". So I dont think Milan would change.

Rojo y Negro
30-12-2007, 19:43
Happy New Year !!!!!!

With the January transfer window seemily hours away, its time for the rumours to burst into hypedrive.
R10, Mourinho and Drogba have been the latest names rumoured to be heading to Milan.
With all this names floating around the boat I hope that Berlusconi and Co have a action plan to sure up this Milan lineup.
I am not asking to miracles nor to revolutionise the squad because that spells diaster. I am only asking they spend money where its needed.
I appears Milan have become to reactive in the transfer market instead of being proactive. It seems the only way Milan spend big is when things don't go to plan and they don't win any silverware. The problem with this approach is sooner or later you will come across a real dry spell and will not win anything for years. At that stage you attempt to rebuild the squad but it takes years to develop a winning squad.

Milan need to be proactive in the market and start to rebuild the team. Starting from the back and moving forward.

Kaka--7thUCL
30-12-2007, 22:23
teehee. transfer market coming up :)

Drogba/Shevchenko, Ronaldinho, Zambrotta, Frey. As long as we get one of those players im satisfied!

Rando
30-12-2007, 23:00
so many great players linked to milan for winter transfer market.
IF ronaldo is fit again soon, i dont think we will buy sheva or drogba unless if gila leaves which is very unlikely.

ronaldinho is welcomed to milan as long as he is not too expensive(less than 35M pounds is reasonable).

i think ZAMBROTTA is a must buy for us, he is very good and cheap!!!

mourinho to milan? i think i better leave it to the end of this season.

Rando
30-12-2007, 23:08
when will ronaldinho's contract at barca expire?

the only worthy replacement for ancelotti are lippi or mourinho. but i prefer lippi! i am worried mourinho's personality will clash with players or management! or to follow the tradition of using the former milan's great players as a coach, then we can say: vanbasten,rijkaard or donadoni.
however i think it is too premature to discuss about coach's change, carlo may stay with us for a long time.

Blacktop
31-12-2007, 00:37
I don't see us grabbing some big name next month. We're going to wait till summer to snag the Freys and Zambrottas because there's more time and freedom to negotiate with clubs.

Besides, big-name free agents-to-be are like blockbuster movies; they're more available in June than January. :)

These are the players that should go:
Dida, Simic, Favalli, Brocchi, and Ronaldo (Ronaldo is great, but he is always injured).
I hope I didn't come across as argumentative when I replied to your previous post.

MLM
31-12-2007, 01:08
teehee. transfer market coming up :)

Drogba/Shevchenko, Ronaldinho, Zambrotta, Frey. As long as we get one of those players im satisfied!

i will add the list of urs :)
also Lucio from Bayern, Augosto and Kayke from Flamengo, Stendardo from Lazio, and Pazzini from Fiorentina... that's a lot of cash...hard to believe that we will splash the cash even just for one name of them :D

hany.Egypt
31-12-2007, 04:30
when will ronaldinho's contract at barca expire?
It expires by 2010 so there still 2.5 left and there is abig possiblity that he renews with them .

hany.Egypt
31-12-2007, 04:30
when will ronaldinho's contract at barca expire?
It expires by 2010 so there still 2.5 left and there is abig possiblety that he renews with them .

hany.Egypt
31-12-2007, 04:31
when will ronaldinho's contract at barca expire?
It expires by 2010 so there still 2.5 left and there is abig possiblety that he renews with them .

hany.Egypt
31-12-2007, 04:34
sorry for double post

hitmannq8
31-12-2007, 06:34
Rumours are gathering that we are getting Guillermo Ochoa. He's a 22 yr-old goal keeper that plays for America club and is the #1 for Mexico.

Keepers peak at 26-29 and then continue their performances till around 35. I am not too convinced with this deal. What happened to Akinfeev, Carrizo and Ustari? Weren't they suppoesd to be better and more promising keepers that we were close to getting? And I dont understand why are we going for foreigners when Italy produces the best goal keepers. I am also certain that we wont be able to get Ochoa because he doesn't have an EU passport (correct me if im wrong).

I'd like Milan to sign a few offensive players and possibly a RB but I can't see that happening. Ronaldo seems to ready to return to action in Dubai but im not too confident he will be available for the Napoli game on January 13. I say get another striker too.

ThrusT
31-12-2007, 07:13
Numerous sources are reporting that Ronaldo has agreed to join Flamengo, at least thats what their presidente says. :5schal:
Now we can perhaps focus on an experienced striker who still has a bright future ahead of him...

Rumours are gathering that we are getting Guillermo Ochoa. He's a 22 yr-old goal keeper that plays for America club and is the #1 for Mexico.

Keepers peak at 26-29 and then continue their performances till around 35. I am not too convinced with this deal. What happened to Akinfeev, Carrizo and Ustari? Weren't they suppoesd to be better and more promising keepers that we were close to getting? And I dont understand why are we going for foreigners when Italy produces the best goal keepers. I am also certain that we wont be able to get Ochoa because he doesn't have an EU passport (correct me if im wrong).

Which Italian goalkeeper would you sign then? Buffon is out of our reach and Amelia is not ready for Milan. Ochoa is really good, I think he would fit in quite well but I doubt he will be coming to Milan.



When I read all these rumours I think a lot of us are going to be disappointed once again when the transfer window is over. :sigh:

Siregar
31-12-2007, 07:25
If we want to buy more than 1 non-EU players next summer then why dont we do it some of them in January and loan them to other clubs in italy directly (in January too). But I dont know exactly how many non EU-players could be brought and loaned them out directly to italian clubs in a year.

So we can buy for example a non-EU player in January and loan him directly to other italian club then we can take him back next summer with still having 1 spot free for a non-EU player.

Inter did it a couple of times, I think. Just like how they did to Julio Cesar before coming to Inter.

Giorgos
31-12-2007, 07:49
If we want to buy more than 1 non-EU players next summer then why dont we do it some of them in January and loan them to other clubs in italy directly (in January too). But I dont know exactly how many non EU-players could be brought and loaned them out directly to italian clubs in a year.

So we can buy for example a non-EU player in January and loan him directly to other italian club then we can take him back next summer with still having 1 spot free for a non-EU player.

Inter did it a couple of times, I think. Just like how they did to Julio Cesar before coming to Inter.

I would suggest loan out Sergihno or another non-eu and taking Sheva (It is more easy to get to) and taking another one LB maybe Zambrotta or sell Ronaldo.

So an attacker for the league and a LB at leat for winter mercato and then we can make big aaddings at summer. But... we need a scoreror Serie A to qualify for next CL. :swars:

Campari
31-12-2007, 08:05
I'd rather see 5 or 6 new young and hungry players then 1 too expensive Dinho!

Siregar
31-12-2007, 08:21
I would suggest loan out Sergihno or another non-eu and taking Sheva (It is more easy to get to) and taking another one LB maybe Zambrotta or sell Ronaldo.

So an attacker for the league and a LB at leat for winter mercato and then we can make big aaddings at summer. But... we need a scoreror Serie A to qualify for next CL. :swars:

No mate. What I mean is to loan out non-EU players that we will buy this January (if we decide to buy). This season we will give the non-EU spot for Pato so it's impossible to sign non-EU player this season.

Nothing will change if we sell all of our non-EU players, we will still have only 1 spot (for Pato) in this season.

mrki
31-12-2007, 09:09
Im sure Ronaldo wants to go to Flamengo and play in some time in his country with the club he likes with his people and his language...its normal.

But Milan has gave him everything Milan had and untill we find a replacement Ronaldo WILL NOT leave Milan.

Frey, Zambrotta and Ronaldinho in january, just enough :grinser:

hitmannq8
31-12-2007, 09:24
But Milan has gave him everything Milan had and untill we find a replacement Ronaldo WILL NOT leave Milan.

Frey, Zambrotta and Ronaldinho in january, just enough :grinser:


I wouldnt bet on that and you dont need to have a genius' brain to remember when that last happened. None of the players you wish for will join mrki, it is highly unlikely and very unrealistic at the moment.

PSV's Gomes has been linked today with us but it will not happen because he is cup-tied. We should have gotten De Sanctis when we had the chance. I think we should go for Curci, not the best but he definitely is better the rest of the Italian goalkeepers (bar Gigi ofcourse). Cant we get Canizares? Oh but he's cup-tied also so nevermind.

Rico
31-12-2007, 09:46
Keepers peak at 26-29 and then continue their performances till around 35. I am not too convinced with this deal. What happened to Akinfeev, Carrizo and Ustari? Weren't they suppoesd to be better and more promising keepers that we were close to getting? And I dont understand why are we going for foreigners when Italy produces the best goal keepers.
Look at Buffon, he was as good as he is now 10 years ago! Look at Kasper Schmeichel who kept a clean sheet 3-4 matches in a row in his debut in the Premiership even against Man U. He is 20 now.

That keepers peak at an elevated age is simply incorrect.

Italian keepers are good and they always were. But that doesn't mean we cannot sign a foreign keeper if he is good enough and fits Milan.

inter-1908
31-12-2007, 09:50
when will ronaldinho's contract at barca expire?

the only worthy replacement for ancelotti are lippi or mourinho. but i prefer lippi! i am worried mourinho's personality will clash with players or management! or to follow the tradition of using the former milan's great players as a coach, then we can say: vanbasten,rijkaard or donadoni.
however i think it is too premature to discuss about coach's change, carlo may stay with us for a long time.
Hes played out the 3 of the 5 years on his contract already, and in The soccer magazine entitled Soccer Italia, or football Italia, he says that he may use fifa code 17 to be released from Barca. Basically what Fifa act 17 is, is once you have played the 3 years of your contract (which he has done) he canpay out the rest of his Contract and leave the club.

Rico
31-12-2007, 09:54
In other words, Ronaldinho can go to Milan no matter what Barca says.

inter-1908
31-12-2007, 09:56
In other words, Ronaldinho can go to Milan no matter what Barca says.
Exactly, and if he does Milan can thank the Fifa code 17 :5schal:

Graeme C
31-12-2007, 09:56
Look at Buffon, he was as good as he is now 10 years ago! Look at Kasper Schmeichel who kept a clean sheet 3-4 matches in a row in his debut in the Premiership even against Man U. He is 20 now.

That keepers peak at an elevated age is simply incorrect.

Italian keepers are good and they always were. But that doesn't mean we cannot sign a foreign keeper if he is good enough and fits Milan.

i duno, im a bit funny when it comes down to this. Ive always thought if Milan want a goalee and a defender they should always try and buy italian first.

Same if i were to buy a supercar, would go to lamborghini (although owned by audi) and Ferrari first. :ilol:

inter-1908
31-12-2007, 10:01
latest dida rumour from football italia:Nelson Dida appears to have lost Milan’s confidence and after Sebastien Frey the latest target to take over is PSV Eindhoven’s Heurelho da Silva Gomes.


Dida’s position at San Siro has become untenable after a series of catastrophic errors, culminating in the woeful howler that allowed Inter to win the derby 2-1.


A new shot-stopper is among the first priorities for the January transfer market and Fiorentina’s Frey had been suggested as a front runner.


Today the ‘Corriere dello Sport’ suggests that there is another candidate making waves – fellow Brazilian Gomes.


The goalkeeper will turn 27 in February and has been consistently impressive for PSV Eindhoven in both domestic competition and the Champions League.


He has been in Europe since the summer of 2004, switching from Brazilian club Cruzeiro to Dutch outfit PSV.


Gomes helped Eindhoven to the last three Eredivisie titles on the trot and this month extended his contract until 2013.


However, he would be more than happy to accept a step up to the European and World champions with a price-tag hovering around £5m.


Meanwhile, former Milan star Manuel Rui Costa has announced his retirement at the end of this season.


The 35-year-old spent seven terms at Fiorentina and five with the Rossoneri before returning to his hometown club.


“I had always desired to end my career at Benfica and I am proud to have achieved that,” he told local newspaper ‘Record.’


“I am happy with what I have done in my career and proved I am a real professional.”

mrki
31-12-2007, 10:29
I wouldnt bet on that and you dont need to have a genius' brain to remember when that last happened. None of the players you wish for will join mrki, it is highly unlikely and very unrealistic at the moment.

PSV's Gomes has been linked today with us but it will not happen because he is cup-tied. We should have gotten De Sanctis when we had the chance. I think we should go for Curci, not the best but he definitely is better the rest of the Italian goalkeepers (bar Gigi ofcourse). Cant we get Canizares? Oh but he's cup-tied also so nevermind.

If you look at my post veeeery closely, eventually you'll notice the smile alongside the players I mentioned. And than means it was a joke. :clap:

Rico
31-12-2007, 10:33
i duno, im a bit funny when it comes down to this. Ive always thought if Milan want a goalee and a defender they should always try and buy italian first.

Same if i were to buy a supercar, would go to lamborghini (although owned by audi) and Ferrari first. :ilol:
Probably because you love your Italia. :heart:

Mr. Anonymous
31-12-2007, 10:33
Hes played out the 3 of the 5 years on his contract already, and in The soccer magazine entitled Soccer Italia, or football Italia, he says that he may use fifa code 17 to be released from Barca. Basically what Fifa act 17 is, is once you have played the 3 years of your contract (which he has done) he canpay out the rest of his Contract and leave the club.


I posted something similar to this in the Zambrotta, Ronaldinho thread. That's why there is a small chance of Ronaldinho coming in January. Because if he decides to use that FIFA out clause, Barca would lose him for pennies compared to what Milan would offer to buy him for now.
Many want him sold NOW!! It would be a lot of money lost & fans would be livid at management if they screwed this Ronnie thing in any way.

Jim_UK
31-12-2007, 11:27
Here are some of my thoughts on recent rumours.

I think i would prefer Gomes to Frey, the guy has a much greater physical presence. But as Hitman said, he is CL tied and it's unlikely we'd get him and just play Dida or Kalac in the CL games. But i think he is the keeper we should go for as our new number 1 for next season. If we get him for around the £5 million mark, that would be a huge plus.

In terms of younger keepers, if they aren't too expensive and depending on how we've allocated other funds, we should think about getting 1 of Carrizo, Akinfeev, Curci or Ochoa, etc and then loan them out immediately.

Zambrotta for a similar amount seems a good possibility, but we've been down this road before and no deal materialised. Lets hope for a better outcome this time round.

For the summer, if i were in charge my top CB target would be Kolo Toure, though Lucio would be a more realstic option. I'd give Bayern Kaladze + money for the Brazilian. I'd also get Zapata too, to leave us with Bonera, Nesta, Lucio & Zapata for CBs. A good mixture of youth and experience.

To further revolutionise the defence i'd go for Alves aswell. Yes he'd cost money but we have further negotiating chips in our hands aside from Kaladze, mainly Simic, Oliveira, Ronaldo & Gilardino. Don't forget that now Ramos has gone, Sevilla's stars are more likely to leave and should Kanoute go, they would need a new striker.

So with wheeling & dealing, we could end up with a back 5 of Gomes, Zambrotta, Lucio, Nesta, Alves. With Jankulovski, Zapata, Bonera, Oddo & Favalli in reserve. Not to mention our kids such as, Antonelli, Digao, Marzoratti, etc, etc. The only question is Non-EU spots. Lucio has been in Germany for many years, so i'm sure he must be able to qualify for a German passport if he hasn't already. Alves' position i am unsure of. But i think all of these targets are realistic and could be quite affordable assuming they want what we have to offer.

My thoughts on midfield are that we need a new central midfielder, someone like Banega or Diarra. Both are alledgedly available for around £12 million even if it does appear the former has agreed to join Valencia.

As for the front men. Well all transfers depend on if we get Ronaldinho & how much he'll cost us. I think i'd much rather see us go for Benzema & Drogba/Amauri (though Zamparini would make his transfer difficult), with Aguero a dream target. Like i said before, we have enough players in the likes of Kaladze, Dida, Simic, Gilardino, Ronaldo & Oliveira that can save us £20 - £25 million in funds if we're smart.

Naturally i don't expect all this to happen, these are just my thoughts on where we should go.

Graeme C
31-12-2007, 12:28
yeah there's always viviano who plays for Brescia aswell as Curci.

de silvestri is a player i think milan should definately get this summer, he come in the top 10 of young players in the poll recently. Even if we get Zambrotta, silvestri is one for future :)

do you guys really think we will be able to replace cafu, favalli, simic, maldini,serghino in the summer?

Graeme C
31-12-2007, 12:42
oh yeah theres always Maresca again in January..

rosoneri_11
31-12-2007, 15:11
Well i don't know what to choose between Ronaldinho and a great attacking duo of Drogba-Benzema.
I really don't know what to choose.
As for the place of RB the best solution by far is Alves.But we had never seen available to splash the money on that player instead of Chelsea who splashed a big offer for him in summer but they finaly didn't get him(i'm sure they will try again).
As for zambrotta yes he would be great for us, but for how many years????It reminds me Oddo.We bought him last year and know we are talking that we need a new RB.
As for a midfielder, i can say that Milan that summer maked a BIG mistake that didn't sign Ribery.Ancelotti had said this summer that he likes him very much and he would love to sign him!Why really they didn't make something to sign him?????That was a big mistake, the player is unstopable and he is the best player of FC Bayern.Milan really needs a player like him with his runs,speed,naturall fitness,passion,stamina,creativity,technique and work rate!
As for a GK i would love us to sign one of Akinfeev or Frey, i like them to much.
As for a Central Defender i would like one of Barzagli or Albiol(Valencia).
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For last.......as i can see my watch in 1.50 hour here at Greece we gonna get in 2008 and i should go to celebrate with my family and friends.
I wish everyone to have a happy new year!I wish all your dreams to come true about you and your loved persons with hapiness and all the best!!! :clap:

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

rossoner03
31-12-2007, 15:32
HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! God be with us!!! 2008=another AC MILAN CL WIN!!!

hishamilan
31-12-2007, 15:39
i think we must get mamadou diarra in jan. he is like gattusso + ambrosini and he is 27 so very good and costs around 15 mil. ( or steven appiah) as for the attack and since we are strongly linked with drogba i think it woud be a great solution but we need a winger to open up the opponents' defences like m.rodrigues or quaresma .. we could benefit a lot from de selvestri .. and why didn't anybody mention pele or boruc or steklenberg ? they are much better than gomes and frey

Kaka--7thUCL
31-12-2007, 15:45
I think Ochoa is the best buy for a GK?
Zambrotta,Ronaldinho and Pazzini are MUSTS.
I welcome Shevchenko back depending on his price tag. No more then 10M would be good for a 30 year old striker who hasn't been scoring many goals and dropped in form big time. I can live with Dida until the end of the season. We need a lot faster players on our team, I notice one thing about Milan -- When it was Shevchenko Kaka Seedorf running on the counter attacks Kaka and Sheva would be doing the most running and Seedorf would always be back incase of a return pass. Now, without sheva, we have nobody running on the counter attacks with kaka, everytime the balls put up their he has to wait for seedorf or pirlo to run up or pass to Gilardino/Inzaghi which always ends up back into the other teams feet.

Kaka--7thUCL
31-12-2007, 15:46
I think Ochoa is the best buy for a GK?
Zambrotta,Ronaldinho and Pazzini are MUSTS.
I welcome Shevchenko back depending on his price tag. No more then 10M would be good for a 30 year old striker who hasn't been scoring many goals and dropped in form big time. I can live with Dida until the end of the season. We need a lot faster players on our team, I notice one thing about Milan -- When it was Shevchenko Kaka Seedorf running on the counter attacks Kaka and Sheva would be doing the most running and Seedorf would always be back incase of a return pass. Now, without sheva, we have nobody running on the counter attacks with kaka, everytime the balls put up their he has to wait for seedorf or pirlo to run up or pass to Gilardino/Inzaghi which always ends up back into the other teams feet.

atreides602
31-12-2007, 16:08
Happy New Year To Every One , Best Wishes For 2008 And For Our Team : Keep Those Trophyees Comin' :27rr:

ACMILAN1983
31-12-2007, 17:05
do you guys really think we will be able to replace cafu, favalli, simic, maldini,serghino in the summer?

I don't really see why not. Maldini is by far the toughest to replace there, it really depends whether Kaladze can step up and command the CB role regularly. I personally think he can as long as he's fit and able to play consistently (his form of late is impressive). If he can't we need to buy a world class CB otherwise another backup is all that's needed.

We need a new starting fullback, which will result in Cafu or Favalli's replacement coming naturally in either Oddo or Janku and then it's a case of possibly buying another fullback replacement if necessary. But bear in mind Favalli and Simic don't really play any role in this squad these days.

Realistically, with 2 or 3 buys we'll be ok.

Look at Buffon, he was as good as he is now 10 years ago! Look at Kasper Schmeichel who kept a clean sheet 3-4 matches in a row in his debut in the Premiership even against Man U. He is 20 now.

That keepers peak at an elevated age is simply incorrect.

Italian keepers are good and they always were. But that doesn't mean we cannot sign a foreign keeper if he is good enough and fits Milan.

I honestly think Buffon's improved, as I feel he's more comanding (as a leader) and technically more polished now, but we must remember he's a special case. Kasper is good but at this point he needs a lot of work to really elevate himself to a top level keeper.

Personally I have no doubt a goalkeeper generally peaks in his later years.

zafrul
01-01-2008, 02:00
I posted something similar to this in the Zambrotta, Ronaldinho thread. That's why there is a small chance of Ronaldinho coming in January. Because if he decides to use that FIFA out clause, Barca would lose him for pennies compared to what Milan would offer to buy him for now.
Many want him sold NOW!! It would be a lot of money lost & fans would be livid at management if they screwed this Ronnie thing in any way.

Altho this clause has been around for some time, no club has ever used it. All 'big' clubs have a gentlemens agreement not to evoke the Fifa clause 17, as it means losing millions and giving power to the players.

To date no one has used it, but I think Real wanted to break the agreement to sign Kaka, as we know Real were hostile and would have tried every single trick in the book.

If I'm not mistaken, Perez told Berlusconi of Calderon's plans early, so Berlu quickly gave Kaka a new contract. If you notice, Kaka gets a new contract every year or every 2 years, I guess no one in Milan is taking the chance with the 'not-so-gentlemen' agreement after all...

Mr. Anonymous
01-01-2008, 03:15
Altho this clause has been around for some time, no club has ever used it. All 'big' clubs have a gentlemens agreement not to evoke the Fifa clause 17, as it means losing millions and giving power to the players.

To date no one has used it, but I think Real wanted to break the agreement to sign Kaka, as we know Real were hostile and would have tried every single trick in the book.

If I'm not mistaken, Perez told Berlusconi of Calderon's plans early, so Berlu quickly gave Kaka a new contract. If you notice, Kaka gets a new contract every year or every 2 years, I guess no one in Milan is taking the chance with the 'not-so-gentlemen' agreement after all...

Not a huge team but, ask Udinese about their ex-keeper/captain Morgan De Sanctis. I'm almost positive he pulled the FIFA clause card out of his rear end and laid it on the table for Udinese & that was it, he was out the door and plays for Sevilla now.

For Kaka to use this clause it would be VERY hard as the rules vary slightly and become more difficult for player under 28, so I don't think Milan were ever really worried about this.

For Ronaldinho to do this, difficult as it maybe, he has the money & the circumstances to pull it off if he so choses.

But since we got so technical with this matter... It may be the case that a player can only buyout the FINAL YEAR of his contract. (and not the last two or three years) If this is the case I don't think next season is the final year of his contract, which means he may not be able to take advantage of this rule. I'm kind of guessing and may be wrong about this final part.

Rico
01-01-2008, 05:15
Kasper is the biggest keeper talent in a long while. He needs to improve his actions in the penalty area when he comes out to catch or punch the ball away. When he's mastered that there is no end for him.

I just read on Danish text-tv that Barca have been considering him among other keepers.

For me Buffon and Kasper Schmeichel along with his father proves that goalkeepers can be just as good at age 20 as age 30. IMO. :)

Jim_UK
01-01-2008, 05:51
Have we bought anyone yet? If not, why not? No point wasting time, lets get on with it! :grinser:

Rico
01-01-2008, 05:57
:firedev: :devs: :ilol: :eek:

hitmannq8
01-01-2008, 07:15
Ever Banega is set to join Valencia, bye bye Banega!

Pato's debut is 2 weeks away :D

zafrul
01-01-2008, 10:58
Ever Banega is set to join Valencia, bye bye Banega!

Pato's debut is 2 weeks away :D

I see Banega is Gattuso's replacement, or more like a step up from Gatusso. We all know Gatusso has grit and heart, but we all know too well that he sometimes can't even make a 5 meter pass... I was hoping that we snap up Banega like we snapped up Pato after the world club cup.

By the way, where did you get your info? If it's goal.com or something like that, there's still hope the deal is not done...

I pity Pato, I think there's too much hype on this guy, unlike Kaka, we didn't really know about him, and he took Serie A by storm... now this 18 year old has been touted all over the press to save our season... talk about pressure!

zafrul
01-01-2008, 11:11
Not a huge team but, ask Udinese about their ex-keeper/captain Morgan De Sanctis. I'm almost positive he pulled the FIFA clause card out of his rear end and laid it on the table for Udinese & that was it, he was out the door and plays for Sevilla now.

For Kaka to use this clause it would be VERY hard as the rules vary slightly and become more difficult for player under 28, so I don't think Milan were ever really worried about this.

For Ronaldinho to do this, difficult as it maybe, he has the money & the circumstances to pull it off if he so choses.

But since we got so technical with this matter... It may be the case that a player can only buyout the FINAL YEAR of his contract. (and not the last two or three years) If this is the case I don't think next season is the final year of his contract, which means he may not be able to take advantage of this rule. I'm kind of guessing and may be wrong about this final part.

Thanks for the info, wasn't aware that anyone had evoked the clause. But from what i read, it's a gentlemen's agreement between the big clubs across Europe, maybe the G14 clubs. And I don't think udinese have managed to get themselves into the group yet...

But I distinctively remember Galliani saying that all major clubs will not use the clause... But you know Galliani, he's somewhat a compulsive liar...

You have a valid point about Kaka, I forgot that the clause has an age bracket, or maybe they have different rules for below and above 28, not too sure about that... But Kaka surely gets new contracts every now and then, not sure if it's about the clause, or keeping Kaka's from wondering if Real could offer him more money...

If I were Kaka's agent, I would keep the 'Real' rumour mill spinning, and make my millions in commissions every time he signs a new contract...

Giorgos
01-01-2008, 11:19
What i want from Milan, now: Sell Ronaldo, buy Sheva and a LB. For targets, get UCL again, get the 4th place in the the league and why don't go fot th Italina Cup?

Players i would love to see in Milan (2008): Torosidis (Greece), Banega, Daniel Alves, a LB, a big CB, a new WC Keeper, Sheva and another one attacker, Gomez, Benzema, Aguerro, A MF, Van De Vaart, Carlo stay, Gila stay, Gurcuff stay and play more, go to 4-4-2 formation at least in small games in the league.

Win Serie A. CL, Toyta, Italian Cup, CL but finally scuddetto.

Players i want to see out: Brocchi, Emerson, Cafu, Sergihno, Simic (not so much), Dida, Inzaghi, Ronaldo, Favalli,


Players proposed, Schmeihel, Occhoa, Amelia, Gomez, Akinveef, Daniel Alves, Torosidis, Van de Vaart, Rakitic, De Rossi, Fabregas (very difficult), Banega, Huntelaar (He is in a great shape), Benzema, Villa, Berbatov....

Kaka--7thUCL
01-01-2008, 11:52
Lol that would be the best team I've ever seen no doubting that.. However are milan ready to sell all those players and splash out all that money? Surely by now they see they need new players ehH?

This January I want :

Sold: Ronaldo,Simic,Brocchi,Dida
Bought:Gomes,Zambrotta,Ronaldinho,Sheva,Berbatov,Richards
I'm expecting at least 3 of those players, or 3 of equal quality to arrive in January, especially if we expect a 4th place finish in our current position.

I expect Milan too reach the Quarter or Semi-Final of the CL this year, along with winning the Italian Cup, and a 4th or 3rd place finish.

Giorgos
01-01-2008, 13:12
What i want from Milan, now: Sell Ronaldo, buy Sheva and a LB. For targets, get UCL again, get the 4th place in the the league and why don't go fot th Italina Cup?

Players i would love to see in Milan (During 2008): Torosidis (Greece), Banega, Daniel Alves, a LB, a big CB, a new WC Keeper, Sheva and another one attacker, Gomez, Benzema, Aguerro, A MF, Van De Vaart, Carlo stay, Gila stay, Gurcuff stay and play more, go to 4-4-2 formation at least in small games in the league.

Win Serie A. CL, Toyta, Italian Cup, CL but finally scuddetto.

Players i want to see out: Brocchi, Emerson, Cafu, Sergihno, Simic (not so much), Dida, Inzaghi, Ronaldo, Favalli,


Players proposed, Schmeihel, Occhoa, Amelia, Gomez, Akinveef, Daniel Alves, Torosidis, Van de Vaart, Rakitic, De Rossi, Fabregas (very difficult), Banega, Huntelaar (He is in a great shape), Benzema, Villa, Berbatov....

Do the same....

Rico
01-01-2008, 15:00
Perhaps I will do the same another day, Giorgos! Take care. :smileani:

mrki
01-01-2008, 15:32
I dont see any reason why Milan never ttried for Van der Vaart. He is not as good as KAka' or Seedorf at his best, but is a young and great player that can play fast and in the wide positions, and that is what we are lacking in serie a. He can play in CL also. Getting him and Zambrotta in january would boost our squad significally, plus there will be Pato.

That is just a thought, aldough I think he is a Juve player now.

Stitch
01-01-2008, 16:02
forget the traitor please.

Kaka--7thUCL
01-01-2008, 22:51
lol we react too heavily with Shevchenko's whole betrayal situation.. Henry did the same to Arsenal and most fans still consider him a gunner forever for how well he served the team but they've moved on! We just call him a traitor because he left us in our weakness, where as Arsenal finds themselves in 1st place.

mihan
02-01-2008, 03:08
I love Sheva for what he did for us, and thank god he didn't work so well in London. Everybody knows Milan's policy, never sell key players. If Sheva can return and does well again, that would be fantastic! We don't have to bother listening to bids for Kaka, even the upcoming stars. Milan are going to pay 30m more in 5 years for Kaka, OK I know, he deserves it.

shivir
02-01-2008, 03:43
Any takers for Quagliarella? :5roma:

shivir
02-01-2008, 03:48
Also, whatever happened to that lad we got last time around... Lenadro Grimi? any news when he will join the new youngsters at the back..

hany.Egypt
02-01-2008, 04:31
Sheva will never return back to his old form gorget him, Benzema will be a better option,
So Benzema, Ronaldiho, Zambrotta, and new WC GK would be awesome.

Rico
02-01-2008, 05:02
Any takers for Quagliarella? :5roma:
Si, Q is from the planet of Saturn. Big and with rings of scissor kick magic.

Plus a really steady player who almost never performs badly and scores goals like a mad man. :evil:

Jim_UK
02-01-2008, 05:10
Why on earth would people take Shevchenko back? What has he displayed recently to warrant a move for him? Nothing, that's what.

Too many fans suffer from the same romantic visions that the management suffer from, thinking 'Shevchenko was great for us before, lets get him again and it'll be exactly the same, like he never left'. What rubbish!

It's the same with Ronaldo, thinking we can fix him up so he's back to his best, but it'll never happen. I just don't see the fascination with getting ex-players or players who are injured/out of form. We should be getting new players who are hungry to win and are fit, so when they come to us they can perform almost immediately.

Shevchenko would be a backward step. Amauri, Drogba, Benzema & possibly Berbatov are the strikers we should be looking at.

Rico
02-01-2008, 05:18
Why on earth would people take Shevchenko back? What has he displayed recently to warrant a move for him? Nothing, that's what.

Too many fans suffer from the same romantic visions that the management suffer from, thinking 'Shevchenko was great for us before, lets get him again and it'll be exactly the same, like he never left'. What rubbish!

It's the same with Ronaldo, thinking we can fix him up so he's back to his best, but it'll never happen. I just don't see the fascination with getting ex-players or players who are injured/out of form. We should be getting new players who are hungry to win and are fit, so when they come to us they can perform almost immediately.

Shevchenko would be a backward step. Amauri, Drogba, Benzema & possibly Berbatov are the strikers we should be looking at.
How do you know that?

Giovanni
02-01-2008, 05:33
I agree with Jim. How do we know that? Looking at his form in the last 15 months. His last season at Milan wasn't great too.

We need a player that can tear apart a defence alone: a man that, as we say in Italy, stands attack on his shoulder alone...a player Toni like, or Drogba.

Shevchenko hasn't it anymore, physically he looks completely rubbish. Add that his betrayal left all of us gutted, and that come backs are never successful ( remind of Gullit or Donadoni ? ) and that's it.

prifess
02-01-2008, 05:50
Milan To Tempt Sergio Ramos In The Summer

AC Milan want to make Sergio Ramos one of the key pieces of their summer rebuilding programme and are hoping to tempt him to Italy with a huge pay rise, according to a report.



zoom - galleria The Serie A outfit are set to reconstruct their squad at the end of the season as they off-load several veteran stars and are looking to the cream of European football.

Ramos is seen as the new Paolo Maldini in Milan and the club are obsessed with signing him as part of their ambitious plan, Marca report.

With players like Maldini, Cafú and Clarence Seedorf, among others, all set for the exit door, the Rossoneri have drawn up a list of targets and have a massive budget behind them.

Arrigo Sacchi is a huge fan of the Madrid defender and was instrumental in convincing former Bernabéu president Florentino Pérez to shell out €28m to sign him from Sevilla.

Marca believe that the former coach has been waxing lyrical about Ramos to Silvio Berlusconi and is stating that he would be the rock in the defence.

While the 21-year-old is happy at Madrid, the only way that Milan could make him consider leaving would be to offer him huge personal incentives and they the story claims that they have a financial package ready.

Despite the non-aggression pact signed between the two clubs a short time ago, Berlusconi is hoping that Ramos will instigate the move and state his desire to go to Italy.

www.goal.com

it is a summer mercato
but i would like hem to come to milan

mrki
02-01-2008, 06:29
I dont see any chance for Ramos, he is a Real star and a face for the covers, like KAka'... no job done there for us.

Sagnol, Zambrotta( cant play CL ), Lucio, Frey, Viviano ( brescia and U21 GK ), De Silvestri, Ferrari, Alves... there are many good defenders and fullbacks even now in the winter, and of course in the summer.

Looks like Flamini will be free or something in the summer. He is a young and a good player that can be of a great help in rotation sistem. And so on... we all know it well.

Im just keeping fingers crossed that untill the end of winter mercato we get Zambro if now some more players that can help us catch 4th place.

Rico
02-01-2008, 07:07
A) Real Madrid won't let go of Ramos. Real are making a Madrid trademark out of him like Hierro.

B) Ramos is happy in Madrid.

prifess
02-01-2008, 07:57
yeah but the good thing in this article is that they confirm what has been said:
milan want te rebuild their squad: selling old players, and start investing in youth

kris
02-01-2008, 08:17
Ramos is just out for a improved contract.

mrki
02-01-2008, 08:43
News: Ronaldinho has been ruledout of the squad for the copa game Barca has, apparently he wasnt doing any training with the team...

I dont understand Laports. Ronaldinho is a big name, yes. But he is playing AWFULL, Barca has Giovanni, Krkic, Eto'o, Henry and Messi up front + Iniesta can play it also. Ronaldinho has to play and he makes Barca suffer, its obvious.

Im sure Ronaldinho is fd up with Rijkaard and Barca and he would come to his old self outer else. Barca get the money, we get him, everyone is happy. Even Barca fans ( ungratefull people if you ask me ) are cursing him and offending him all the time.

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But for a team like Milan, to put all the pressure on a BOY that hasnt played a single match in serie a, and has 18 years, is a shamefull manner!!! YEs, shamefull!
What do people expect form Pato against Napoli? To take the ball and score 2 goals? What if he play badly in first 5 games, whole europe will laugh at us. Galliani should keep quiet and not make excuses for not signing anyone by makintg PAto "better then Ronaldinho". As it simply is not true.

Im sure Milan will buy in the summer, but it might be too late. We are reealy gambling for the 4th spot this year, and it is a joke.

Rico
02-01-2008, 08:55
- Ronaldinho

It is not a big huss that Barca have not called up Ronaldinho for their Copa del Rey match. They're probably just resting him.

And yeah, those who boo Ronaldinho are ungrateful fans. For me a football fan always supports his teams and never boos at the stadium.

I guess though, that the news of Gaucho's expulsion from the squad will only fuel more rumours around the world and specifically in Spain, hopefully making Ronaldinho realise his destiny is AC Milan.

- Pato

If you don't stake in football and take a chance with youngsters you miss out on big players sometimes. You are describing worst case scenario.

What if Pato plays and we win all our games in the tight programme ahead. Then everyone including you would say: Hey, Berlusconi and Galliani were right.

hishamilan
02-01-2008, 09:03
"mascerano said he will probabely not sign a contract with liverpool after his loan spell ends at the end of this campain" I SWEAR WE WILL REGRET A LOT IF WE DON'T GET THAT BOY or if he signs we might get xabi alonso or even better mamadou diarra these are players who make diffrences in midfeild..... if we are going to get drogba we should get him a winger because he is not that fast you know... so we would better get instead of him benzemma or huntelaar OR BOTH....!!!!!

prifess
02-01-2008, 09:03
- Ronaldinho

It is not a big huss that Barca have not called up Ronaldinho for their Copa del Rey match. They're probably just resting him.

And yeah, those who boo Ronaldinho are ungrateful fans. For me a football fan always supports his teams and never boos at the stadium.

I guess though, that the news of Gaucho's expulsion from the squad will only fuel more rumours around the world and specifically in Spain, hopefully making Ronaldinho realise his destiny is AC Milan.

- Pato

If you don't stake in football and take a chance with youngsters you miss out on big players sometimes. You are describing worst case scenario.

What if Pato plays and we win all our games in the tight programme ahead. Then everyone including you would say: Hey, Berlusconi and Galliani were right.

-it is said that R10 has an injury. and R10 will come next year i think when he is 28 the buy-out clause don't count anymore i think

-pato: is still a questionmark... lets hope berlu and galliani were right. but i think he will have an amaing impact on milan. he together with gila would be awsome

prifess
02-01-2008, 09:05
"mascerano said he will probabely not sign a contract with liverpool after his loan spell ends at the end of this campain" I SWEAR WE WILL REGRET A LOT IF WE DON'T GET THAT BOY or if he signs we might get xabi alonso or even better mamadou diarra these are players who make diffrences in midfeild..... if we are going to get drogba we should get him a winger because he is not that fast you know... so we would better get instead of him benzemma or huntelaar OR BOTH....!!!!!

liverpool has sait they don't gonna sell 1 player in the winter break.
they want to talk in summer break only

mascherano, xabi alonso, sissoko are 3 players that are amazing.
we should get 1 of them to be in our midfield

mrki
02-01-2008, 09:08
If Pato play that good I'll say : bravo Leonardo ( and Carlo, it was his decision partialy ), not Galliani!

Milan payed almost 20 mln for a player of 17 years age, it needs to mean something. But still, we should keep quiet and wait for the man to PLAY.

Some craotian sites reported that Milan is in talks for Benzema and that 35 mln was rejected...

Graeme C
02-01-2008, 09:34
i would pay it, i think i read on goal that lyon want £25 mill for benzema. If you work out the rate of inflation, and how much talent costs thats not bad. :dconf: If inzaghi or Gilardino goes i would like G Rossi or Huntelaar to come in aswell.

Guys whoever we go for this summer we are gona get ripped off. Amauri isnt going to be cheap (considering Palermo hates us), and chelsea will want £27 for Drogba.

A strike force of

Benzema
Pato
Gilardino/inzaghi
G Rossi/ Huntelaar.

And maybe consider bringing either Pozzi, Borriello or Matri back at the end of the season.