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Ronaldinho to Inter...nice. Galliani doesnt bother...even nicer. We dont need any players, we'r fine as we are. :1whis:
It was funny at the beginning but now it not!
rosoneri_11
20-01-2008, 14:30
Ronaldinho to Inter...nice. Galliani doesnt bother...even nicer. We dont need any players, we'r fine as we are. :1whis:
It was funny at the beginning but now it not!
Do you remembrer what he had said in the past "We have Aubameyang!"
My god!!!!
And my dream is Milan to sign for RB Daniel Alves.Oh, mrki.....only in my dreams! :1avs:
i am glad milan dropped their interest in dinho. he will cause trouble. too many superstars is no good, look at what happened to realmadrid when they have zidane beckham ronaldo figo raul. dinho is also too expensive, not worth it. also his behaviour off the field is not exemplary.
barca realised what happened to madrid, so they tried to sell dinho because they have too many superstars already: henry messi etoo krkic dos santos
in summer we need one player with kaka/seedorf quality and one attacking full back.
Bresciano
20-01-2008, 19:22
can't believe milan, inter and chelsea will fight for ronaldinho, he is a finished player, he will never be again what he have been.
milan should take zambrotta, he is old, but one of the best in his position.
Kaka1899
21-01-2008, 02:33
Inter just make you sick, i cant believe they only step in now because we drop out what a bunch of losers :yuck:
Graeme C
21-01-2008, 03:03
Hamsik got 2 over the weekend!
yeah i agree, inter make me sick!! you know what they say, too many cooks spoil the broth!
If we get players like hamsik, Dossena, Cigarani we wont need Ronaldinho.
i am glad milan dropped their interest in dinho. he will cause trouble. too many superstars is no good, look at what happened to realmadrid when they have zidane beckham ronaldo figo raul. dinho is also too expensive, not worth it. also his behaviour off the field is not exemplary.
barca realised what happened to madrid, so they tried to sell dinho because they have too many superstars already: henry messi etoo krkic dos santos
in summer we need one player with kaka/seedorf quality and one attacking full back.
Ronaldinho is not expensive this summer. He can buy his contract with 15M (~Pato). However, I like Gourcuff and I want more an Italian Milan. I don't like the way we stick with Brazillian (though I like Kaka, Pato, Ronaldo too). Remember why Milan born its son Inter :yuck: . I hope we can have Cigarini or Montolivo and some more Italians this summer
Kaka1899
21-01-2008, 04:18
Giampaolo Pazzini i would love us to sign as Pippo and Ronaldo cant play many games in a row. imagine Pazzini and Pato with Kaka behind in AM!
Zambreotta, De Silvestri, Cigarini, Montolivo, Dessena, Aquilani, Pazzini...
Frey, Mexes, Nasri, Benzema...
pick 5 out of those and we have a great team.
Also ,these statemants from Galliani and Berlusconi about Ronaldinho are ridiculous and offensive to Milan fans. After 3 yyears of poor mercato, they bring in 18 year old boy ( who is a world class HOPE ) and expect him to save our team that has many holes to fill in. And then after all that " Dinho wants only Milan " " we are first in line", now we dont need him?? Come on, those lies are ridiculous and scandalous. Galliani is mistreating Milan supporters who come to San Siro and know football very well! Its offensive! Take care of our Milan or dont, thats it, no more lies.
Kaka1899
21-01-2008, 05:33
well said Mrki no more lies if he said "we cant be bothred buying anybody" yeah we would be annoyed and angry but at least we know hes not fobbing us off with some two bit story.
hany.Egypt
21-01-2008, 08:39
Guys why are you blaming Galiani all the time, IMO he is just a toy, Berlu is the one who decides what will and what will not happen/said, Galiani just do what he is told.
Warro Bantan
21-01-2008, 11:20
Dunno what to think at this point...should we pay an exorbitant transfer fee, and salary for a player that could become our "Adriano"...and mayb even disrupt our dressingroom...and a player who could be past his best...
Or do we pay an exorbitant fee and salary for a player who can return to his devastating form, will follow the example of his fellow professionals like Kaka and Nesta, and lead us to a treble?
Or should the question be: Should we allow our direct rivals to strengthen their team, or allow them to bring in a time-bomb that will totally disrupt their camp?
So many questions..and answers look few and far between...
Snapster
21-01-2008, 11:33
Dunno what to think at this point...should we pay an exorbitant transfer fee, and salary for a player that could become our "Adriano"...and mayb even disrupt our dressingroom...and a player who could be past his best...
Or do we pay an exorbitant fee and salary for a player who can return to his devastating form, will follow the example of his fellow professionals like Kaka and Nesta, and lead us to a treble?
Or should the question be: Should we allow our direct rivals to strengthen their team, or allow them to bring in a time-bomb that will totally disrupt their camp?
So many questions..and answers look few and far between...
Or pay the same fee for several players to strengthen our squad overall rather than hide the cracks with one player who may or may not be good for us. :)
rosoneri_11
21-01-2008, 12:15
I want to say that this summer we lost to sign great strikers.Henry,Torres,Tevez,Babel,Tony and also we lost a great midifielder Ribery. We lost so many great players but what did we bought?Only Pato.
Our team is very aged and will become more aged.I don't know what Silvio want to do with the team, but i know that we need a big refresh.
We bought Pato and our team had change to look better, think what will become if we sign 4-6 new players.
look at these galliani's statements
http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=554883
"Dida and Kalac will still be the goalkeepers of Milan next year," Galliani is quoted in the Corriere dello Sport.
:ilol: :ilol:
this is actually not funny... i am laughing out of desperation :grinser: :guw:
rosoneri_11
21-01-2008, 12:35
look at these galliani's statements
http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=554883
"Dida and Kalac will still be the goalkeepers of Milan next year," Galliani is quoted in the Corriere dello Sport.
:ilol: :ilol:
this is actually not funny... i am laughing out of desperation :grinser: :guw:
He is really mad! We need 5-6 new players and he says we ar ok! He is mad!
Graeme C
21-01-2008, 12:42
Dunno what to think at this point...should we pay an exorbitant transfer fee, and salary for a player that could become our "Adriano"...and mayb even disrupt our dressingroom...and a player who could be past his best...
Or do we pay an exorbitant fee and salary for a player who can return to his devastating form, will follow the example of his fellow professionals like Kaka and Nesta, and lead us to a treble?
Or should the question be: Should we allow our direct rivals to strengthen their team, or allow them to bring in a time-bomb that will totally disrupt their camp?
So many questions..and answers look few and far between...
its a tricky one, his fee would fix alot of our current problems with width, speed and youth. We could sign 5 young players for the same cost as him. Kaka and Ronaldinho cant play together as they get in each others way.
But if we dont sign Roanldinho we will NOT spend 100 mln on 5-6 new players, we'll bring back Boriello, Darmiani and get Zambrotta...
rosoneri_11
21-01-2008, 12:59
But if we dont sign Roanldinho we will NOT spend 100 mln on 5-6 new players...
Yes thats the truth. And that really sucks!
Galiani: we wont seel GILA.
kastriot
21-01-2008, 13:17
http://goal.com/en/articolo.aspx?contenutoid=555486
look what the author is saying about Borriello.....the guy is doing great, maybe we should call him back, i just hope he dosnt turn in to Brochi case,after fiorenitna displays.
WE most ween in Bergamo :5schal: forza milan
Gila stays that meen we dont need Borielo
Galliani saying that Dida & Kalac will still be the Goalkeepers of Milan next season doesn't mean we won't be getting a new 1st choice keeper.
We could quite easily end up with Frey as #1 and Dida & Kalac duking it out for the #2 spot.
Galliani? As in the man once said "we'll sign Mr. X" last summer?
oh man...
Ronaldinho is not expensive this summer. He can buy his contract with 15M (~Pato). However, I like Gourcuff and I want more an Italian Milan. I don't like the way we stick with Brazillian (though I like Kaka, Pato, Ronaldo too). Remember why Milan born its son Inter :yuck: . I hope we can have Cigarini or Montolivo and some more Italians this summer
yes ideally, i want milan squad consist of majority of italians. probably 70% italians and 30% the others. even though dinho is cheap, he is not the right player for milan. yes bring on more italians!!!! there are plenty of talented italians unlike the english.
sepp blater plans to implement maximum 5 foreign players and minimum 6 local players policy, which is very good. i hope this rule will be approved.
please release next season fiori and ba as they are not going to be played anyway!
I sincerely doubt Berlu and Galliani would let Ronaldinho go to Inter. Not after three years of hype. Although they have probably realized that he would not necessarily fit into our system, they will not allow a repeat of the Ibra & Suazo scenarios. After all, it is very much like them to deny, deny, deny, and then pop up with a surprise signing. I think the best possible option would be for Ronnie to rediscover his form and stay at Barca. That way, we could focus on more immediate concerns (man, do we need fullbacks). That being said, I would not complain if we actually manage to land him - and I don't think our team would either. It is Ronaldinho we're talking about here.
rosoneri_11
22-01-2008, 02:57
Hey does anyone have seen this: http://store.acmilan.com/ASTA_dettagli.asp?lingua=ENG&id=10&sposta=
The shirt that Pato had weared on his debut wich he also scored against Napoli is on auction! At the moment its been 40 offers and the bigest offer wich wins is € 16.027,00 :googly:
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I'm waiting to hear offers! :D Come on....... :D
yes ideally, i want milan squad consist of majority of italians. probably 70% italians and 30% the others. even though dinho is cheap, he is not the right player for milan. yes bring on more italians!!!! there are plenty of talented italians unlike the english.
What has that to do with anything? Though if we follow your logic there are plenty of talented English unlike the Aussies!
Also i don't seem to remember any Aussies or Italians featuring in Gazzetta Dello Sport's Giovani stelle: the next generation list that they compiled a little while back. However there were 4 English players out of the 26 on there and while i appreciate such lists are subjective and common place, i'd like to think GDS know what they're on about. Sorry if that's too much of a shock for your narrow minded brain to handle!
Here's an article from Gazzeta Dello Sport saying (i think) we're ready with a 40 million euro bid for Ronaldinho and that we'll pay him 7.5 million a year and give him full image rights. link (http://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Calciomercato/Primo_Piano/2008/01_Gennaio/22/ronaldinho.shtml)
Ronnie: maxi-offerta Milan ma anche l'Inter non molla
In casa rossonera è tutto pronto: 40 milioni per l'acquisto, 7,5 per lo stipendio netto annuale e resterebbero al giocatore i diritti d'immagine. Ma il club di via Durini insiste con il fratello-agente
Ronaldinho, 27 anni, gioca nel Barcellona dal 2003. LaPresse
MILANO, 22 gennaio 2008 - I bagliori di un derby per Ronaldinho illuminano Milano. E fanno scoprire le mosse di Inter e Milan in una rincorsa che vede molto interessato anche il ricco Chelsea di Abramovich. L’ammissione di Roberto Mancini sul campione di Porto Alegre rimpicciolisce l’ulteriore frenata di Massimo Moratti. Tutto ciò mentre sull’altro fronte è proprio Adriano Galliani a confermare l’ingresso in scena dei rivali. Un’ammissione che evidentemente testimonia l’attenzione del club di via Turati ad una vicenda cui il presidente Silvio Berlusconi tiene molto.
L’OFFERTA ROSSONERA - Non a caso, dunque, i rossoneri hanno accelerato i tempi negli ultimi giorni su questo fronte. Ormai da mesi Adriano Galliani ha lasciato ad Ernesto Bronzetti, consulente per la Spagna, la consegna di vigilare sulle mosse di Roberto Assis, il fratello-agente di Ronaldinho. Proprio nei giorni scorsi è stato segnalato in Inghilterra, ma i suoi amici sostengono che era lì solo per seguire le vicende di Wagner Love. Nessun contatto con il Chelsea. Del resto era dicembre quando fu proprio Roberto Assis ad escludere impegni con la società inglese. E fu in quell’occasione che, invece, Ronaldinho confermò la volontà di trasferirsi in Italia, destinazione Milan: la casa italiana dei brasiliani. Una linea di credito sinora rimasta in sospeso per non creare incidenti diplomatici con il Barcellona, preoccupato di chiudere ogni discorso su una cessione al mercato di gennaio. Anche per questo motivo il Milan sinora ha provato a tenere coperte le proprie carte, ma è chiaro che ogni giorno che passa induce i dirigenti milanisti ad uscire un po’ di più allo scoperto. Per ora con il giocatore che ha di fatto raffreddato i rapporti con il Barça dopo aver capito di non poter strappare aumenti di stipendio a Laporta e Soriano. Al contrario il Milan è disponibile a riconoscergli un sostanziale miglioramento.
LA GABBIA DEI DIRITTI D’IMMAGINE - Al momento, infatti, il club catalano garantisce un ingaggio da circa 8 milioni di euro al netto delle tasse. In più il campione brasiliano è obbligato a dividere al cinquanta per cento con la società gli introiti dei diritti d’immagine. E’ un po’ quel che accadeva a Ronaldo con il Real Madrid. Una formula evidentemente diffusa tra le grandi di Spagna e i loro campioni. Al contrario in Italia questa pratica non appare diffusa. Soprattutto il Milan ormai da qualche anno ha scelto di lasciare ai calciatori la completa autonomia nella gestione della propria immagine. Una soluzione che, ad esempio, è stata decisiva per convincere il Fenomeno a determinate rinunce sulla parte fissa del proprio stipendio. E il Milan pensa di avere successo con questa filosofia anche per Ronaldinho.
I CONTATTI DELL’INTER - C’è da mettere in preventivo che l’Inter non abbia difficoltà a garantire al brasiliano condizioni economiche altrettanto vantaggiose. Se non superiori. Ma è chiaro che in questo duello varranno molto altri aspetti. Da quello tecnico agli aspetti ambientali. E l’impressione è che le due società milanesi stiano giocando la loro partita proprio su queste sponde in apparenza collaterali. Perciò nei prossimi giorni attendiamoci nuovi sussulti. A dispetto della cautela del presidente nerazzurro, il direttore tecnico Marco Branca ha già fatto i suoi passi con Roberto Assis. Che non gli ha certo chiuso la porta in faccia.
Carlo Laudisa
In the past few months I've been folowing young italian players in serie a and you can see those boys can play eral football! Do you agree we should sign some of the young italian midfielders like Dessena, Cigarini ( we need a player like Pirlo? here it is! ), Montolivo, Aquilani... I know its hard to sign them, but hey... we are Milan. It used to mean something on the mercato.
Also De Silvestri, Pozzi, Viviano is ok GK... It would be nice to see few italians back to milanello: Zambrotta, Cigarini, Dessena, Pozzi for example!
What has that to do with anything? Though if we follow your logic there are plenty of talented English unlike the Aussies!
Also i don't seem to remember any Aussies or Italians featuring in Gazzetta Dello Sport's Giovani stelle: the next generation list that they compiled a little while back. However there were 4 English players out of the 26 on there and while i appreciate such lists are subjective and common place, i'd like to think GDS know what they're on about. Sorry if that's too much of a shock for your narrow minded brain to handle!
Now now Jim old buddy, no reason to be so harsh on the guy. He is just giving an opinion. No need to take it personal....if I were him I'd say : "Oh yeah? Well Australia has more talented cricketers :D "
Many of us think there should be more Italians on the team ....including me (trini) and Warro (Jamaican).....I agree with Berlu's policy of Italians in defence and Brazilians in attack :pp20:
Anyway, everybody is fighting to get the services of Fred. It think if he gets a French passport we should throw our hats in too. he might not be brilliant but he's great :respect:
Now now Jim old buddy, no reason to be so harsh on the guy. He is just giving an opinion. No need to take it personal....if I were him I'd say : "Oh yeah? Well Australia has more talented cricketers :D "
Anyway, everybody is fighting to get the services of Fred. It think if he gets a French passport we should throw our hats in too. he might not be brilliant but he's great :respect:
I don't see how what he mentioned has any connection or relevance to the topic in hand. No one else was talking about English players, so why bring it up?
Back to the topic in hand and Barcelona must be rubbing their hands together to find ourselves & Inter looking set to battle it out for Ronaldinho's signature (should they wish to sell him).
Can some one confirm if Ronaldinho can buy out his contract with 15M this summer please? If it's true, then I don't think there is a bid war, but maybe a contract war (Inter has advantage as Nike is on their side).
I don't think we really need Ronaldinho and I don't really want him in our team, although if we decide to buy him for £15m it won't be a bad deal at all, although I'd prefer to spend the money elsewhere (Italian players :))
My options would be Cigarini (we really missed someone like Pirlo against Udi....and any team we play against without Pirlo, and Cigarini seems to be a perfect replacement), Rosina to give us some extra flair, Zambrotta, Montolivo, another fullback and bring back Pozzi, that way we won't have to spend more than £30m (I think...dunno much about values) and we will improve our squad massively :)
Ronaldinho for 15mil :rotfl: you can dream on that
Warro Bantan
22-01-2008, 17:38
Not surprised to see us back for R10 (channel4.com)...dont think Berlu could stomach seeing him play for Inter! :D
Warro Bantan
22-01-2008, 17:40
Not surprised to see us back for R10 (channel4.com)...dont think Berlu could stomach seeing him play for Inter! :D
I just read from transfermarketweb that we are going to swap simic with lazio's stendardo on loan basis.
Anyone know about stendardo?
http://www.transfermarketweb.com/?action=read&idsel=9806
Simic?Well,I'm not surprised..He is bad now..
drucurl...buddy...don't cry...we're here for you....just open up to us...
http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jan23c.html
Inter plot Aguero megabid
Wednesday 23 January, 2008
Inter are eyeing Argentine striking starlet Sergio Aguero and there are rumours that Massimo Moratti is preparing a huge bid.
I want to say that this summer we lost to sign great strikers.Henry,Torres,Tevez,Babel,Tony and also we lost a great midifielder Ribery. We lost so many great players but what did we bought?Only Pato.
Our team is very aged and will become more aged.I don't know what Silvio want to do with the team, but i know that we need a big refresh.
We bought Pato and our team had change to look better, think what will become if we sign 4-6 new players.
If we sign Torres, henry etc. Do you think Pato will be given so many chances? I don't think so. There are only so many players you can field. I would prefer Pato over the rest simply because he is the future and has more potential than all of the players you named. And add to the fact that R99 is suppose to be available at the start of this season with Gila, i am not at all suprised that we didn't get any other striker, we simply doesn't need them at that time.
rosoneri_11
23-01-2008, 06:29
If we sign Torres, henry etc. Do you think Pato will be given so many chances?.
Yes.I think Torres,henry etc is better than Ronaldo.Our starting attack duo would have been Pato-Torres/Henry/etc.
There are only so many players you can field. I would prefer Pato over the rest simply because he is the future and has more potential than all of the players you named.
I did never said that we should had sign Torres/henry/etc instead of Pato.I would prefer to see Pato with Torres/Henry/etc in Milan.And that would be better for us beacuse we need good strikers.Inzaghi is very very aged.Gilardino is not playing well.And ronaldo every is always injured.We need more strikers.
And add to the fact that R99 is suppose to be available at the start of this season with Gila, i am not at all suprised that we didn't get any other striker, we simply doesn't need them at that time.
But you should think also that he can get injured again and he will not be available to start this season with Gila.And i'm suprised that we didn't get another striker beacuse exept Pato i don't know if Ronaldo will get injured,Pippo to play like he was before 3-4 years, and Gila to score like when he was at Parma.So i think that we need more strikers.
drucurl...buddy...don't cry...we're here for you....just open up to us...
http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jan23c.html
This is veeeery sad news because:
1) Aguero would fit in at Inter
2) They have the money
3) They can appease the Athletico fans with a big name replacement like Crespo
4) Aguero is on the up (personally I rate him higher than Messi)
5) Gila is crap and Ronaldo/ Pippo gets injured often
6) Life would be even more unbearable if Inter really got Ronaldinho
7) Quaresma is a long term inter target
:(
This is veeeery sad news because:
1) Aguero would fit in at Inter
2) They have the money
3) They can appease the Athletico fans with a big name replacement like Crespo
4) Aguero is on the up (personally I rate him higher than Messi)
5) Gila is crap and Ronaldo/ Pippo gets injured often
6) Life would be even more unbearable if Inter really got Ronaldinho
7) Quaresma is a long term inter target
:(
I thought people from the Caribbean were meant to have a brighter more positive outlook on life :D
HO-YOUNG
23-01-2008, 09:08
I thought people from the Caribbean were meant to have a brighter more positive outlook on life :D
We are...but we have to face reality and accept it... a spade is a spade... we always sit back and watch our rivals strengthen their squads and we sit back and try to play catch up... Why do we have towait till may to have somthing to boast about... we want to win convincingly every week...
Dr Milano
23-01-2008, 10:52
We have a big problem in our milanese side !!
hes fat and round and bounces on the ground .. hes also a bald rat !!
goes by the name of Gallianii !!
oo berlu give him the boot please
1) Aguero would fit in at Inter
6) Life would be even more unbearable if Inter really got Ronaldinho
7) Quaresma is a long term inter target
heh, i dont believe they will get more than one of these mentioned... which one would you like them to take (or who are the 2 you really dont want in inter) :D
King tiger
23-01-2008, 11:00
This is veeeery sad news because:
1) Aguero would fit in at Inter
2) They have the money
3) They can appease the Athletico fans with a big name replacement like Crespo
4) Aguero is on the up (personally I rate him higher than Messi)
5) Gila is crap and Ronaldo/ Pippo gets injured often
6) Life would be even more unbearable if Inter really got Ronaldinho
7) Quaresma is a long term inter target
I think Atletico owes something like 20 mil. euro to Milan.
Milan can use it to get Aguero or someone else form atletico.
I think we need a fresh blood.
Bring on Piersylvio...
In the past few months I've been folowing young italian players in serie a and you can see those boys can play eral football! Do you agree we should sign some of the young italian midfielders like Dessena, Cigarini ( we need a player like Pirlo? here it is! ), Montolivo, Aquilani... I know its hard to sign them, but hey... we are Milan. It used to mean something on the mercato.
Also De Silvestri, Pozzi, Viviano is ok GK... It would be nice to see few italians back to milanello: Zambrotta, Cigarini, Dessena, Pozzi for example!
yes i am a passionate supporter of the priority of signing the young promising or experienced italians(domestic players)!!! italy produce lots of good talents young and old, why do we bother looking elsewhere? if we were english team, it was understandable that we rarely signed english players as there are not many talented english players.
buffon,curci,montolivo,cigarini,borriello,pozzi, de silvestri,barzagli,zambrotta,doni,pannuci,palladino,dessena,paloschi,darmian,di natale,quagliarella,gamberini,rosina,zaccardo
there are many more to choose from!
it is my fantasy to have milan full of italians! i hope it comes true.
we can release kalac dida simic cafu serginho ba emerson
Ronaldinho for 15mil :rotfl: you can dream on that
according to the new rule, a >=28 years old and has played 5 years for a club can buy out his last year contract.
Peachtot
24-01-2008, 00:50
i like both inter's full back douglas maicon & maxwell.
Both of them are strong and fast. a bit unlucky for milan coz maxwell prefered joining inter than milan when he was out of contract from ajax.
Now inter have one of the best pairing full back in european football.
i wish one of them (esp. Maicon) could be signed by milan next summer :grinser:
Not all these Italian players are great or are right for us, in some cases there are other, better players to choose from. Though i do agree that we can find 90% of what we need in Italy rather than abroad.
rosoneri_11
24-01-2008, 06:06
From: http://www.calciomercato.com/index.php?c=21&a=68537
Maldini says he wants Sergio Ramos for his replacement!
Maldini: 'Il mio erede è Sergio Ramos'
11:00 del 24 gennaio
Nonostante la fresca smentita di Ancelotti, il nome di Sergio Ramos continua a ricorrere nei 'sogni' di mercato del Milan. A testimonianza di quanto i rossoneri apprezzino il giocatore arriva anche la consacrazione da parte di Paolo Maldini: "Il mio erede è lui - ha dichiarato il capitano al quotidiano Marca -, entro breve tempo diventerà il miglior difensore al mondo".
In ogni caso sarà molto difficile che il Milan riesca a strappare il nazionale spagnolo al Real Madrid.
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And galiani will say."No way we have Kaladze,Bonera,Simic", we are OK!
We won't sign Ramos, Real won't sell.
we could pair up Zambrotta and Alves, but you need money for that and Silvio doesnt feel like it obviously. Zambrotta and Alves would make our back line magic...
Im afraid we will have another empty mercato now and then 2 or 3 players in summer. And that is not eought.
These are missees by Galliani: Oddo ( 7.5), Gilardino( 25 ), Oliveira( 17 + vogel ), Vieri, Amoroso ( what the hell?? ), Emerson ( 5 ). That is around 40 mln plus wages fopr players who didnt play as they were expected.
And, these are the players Carlo never managed to play right: Jankulovski ( never played like in udinese, with power and confidence ), Oddo, Gilardino, Gourcuff ( dont forger - HE WAS THE BEST FRENCH MIDFIELDER AND NATIONA U21 CAPTAIN! ) , Bonera ( one of the most promising defenders back in parma days ).
For persons that work football 10 hours a day, its a lot of wastefull money/players. We all know that Leonardo found Kaka' ,and taht was THE TRANSFER of the decade! Finding Pato wasnt hard, he was the best young brazilian, what is there to think about? And we payed him 20 mln, its not a super clever transfer like KAka's. And no, Carlo didnt discover Pirlo, Brescia did.
Its not hard to train Ronaldo, Pippo, Sheva, Rui, Seedorf, Rino, AMbro, Stam, Nesta, Maldini...
I hope Galliani and Carlo get his work together as this is simply wasfefull... I know , and I admit I also exoected Gila and Oddo to play better, maybe even Marek. But the coach is there do do his job by making them better players. Yes, MAKING them better players.
Fingers crossed for Maldini to have big influence on Milans mercato over the summer. as boban said: all the players in Milanello feel like they will stay, they are all relaxed, but if Maldini comes up in managment, things will change.
Dr Milano
24-01-2008, 11:17
Sergio Ramos - now that would be a dream come true !!
Mertesacker is more :P realistic :)
oo and if we made a great bid :P lets say liverpool center back daniel agger
As Kris said, Real won't sell Ramos, not unless it involved Kaka somehow.
Our best bets for CBs are Zapata and/or Lucio.
For not a huge amount of money we could have Vargas-Zapata-Nesta-Zambrotta as our starting back 4 next season. Which is quite impressive i think.
Throw in Alves & Lucio if you think we'll splash out.
King tiger
24-01-2008, 13:50
Vargas + Zambro + any fast winger so we can play wider . I think that winger is the key, nowadays we just try to
1. lift the ball up ala english style
2. try a good defense splitting pass
the problem is , opponents CB's get to the ball first almost always if we use 1.st variant.problem with no.2 is that you need both skill + good understanding between midfielder and the forward+ a little bit of luck.
i believe tho solution is to field new and better fullbacks and maybe a winger , they must be fast and relatively young , so that they have advantage vs opponents fullbacks/ defensive players.
if they can cross in the penalty box from good position then we will have another variant in the attack .
Did you noticed how , both favalli and bonera rarely get into good position to cross ? thats because they just cant get in good position to cross , coz they just can't pass their opponent so they must cross from 35-40 m which ends in disaster.
add to that Oddo's bad form and Marek's injury ( even though i think marek is doing decent job in his role ) you end up with a slow attacking, static team, that can score only by a result of individual brilliance.
conclusion = new Fullbacks + maybe a winger :D
HO-YOUNG
24-01-2008, 15:15
we could pair up Zambrotta and Alves, but you need money for that and Silvio doesnt feel like it obviously. Zambrotta and Alves would make our back line magic...
Im afraid we will have another empty mercato now and then 2 or 3 players in summer. And that is not eought.
These are missees by Galliani: Oddo ( 7.5), Gilardino( 25 ), Oliveira( 17 + vogel ), Vieri, Amoroso ( what the hell?? ), Emerson ( 5 ). That is around 40 mln plus wages fopr players who didnt play as they were expected.
And, these are the players Carlo never managed to play right: Jankulovski ( never played like in udinese, with power and confidence ), Oddo, Gilardino, Gourcuff ( dont forger - HE WAS THE BEST FRENCH MIDFIELDER AND NATIONA U21 CAPTAIN! ) , Bonera ( one of the most promising defenders back in parma days ).
For persons that work football 10 hours a day, its a lot of wastefull money/players. We all know that Leonardo found Kaka' ,and taht was THE TRANSFER of the decade! Finding Pato wasnt hard, he was the best young brazilian, what is there to think about? And we payed him 20 mln, its not a super clever transfer like KAka's. And no, Carlo didnt discover Pirlo, Brescia did.
Its not hard to train Ronaldo, Pippo, Sheva, Rui, Seedorf, Rino, AMbro, Stam, Nesta, Maldini...
I hope Galliani and Carlo get his work together as this is simply wasfefull... I know , and I admit I also exoected Gila and Oddo to play better, maybe even Marek. But the coach is there do do his job by making them better players. Yes, MAKING them better players.
Fingers crossed for Maldini to have big influence on Milans mercato over the summer. as boban said: all the players in Milanello feel like they will stay, they are all relaxed, but if Maldini comes up in managment, things will change.
Good post...I can see the reasoning...
King tiger
24-01-2008, 15:33
ma sta kazes moj ti :D
jesi vidio kako se filozofira ::D
rosoneri_11
25-01-2008, 04:07
Warning - threat... with bullet reached in the offices of AC Mlan!
Hey look today what i read from a greek site about footbal news.
From:http://sports.pathfinder.gr/football/europe/italy/serie-a/milan/588464.html
The article says.....
Warning - threat... with bullet reached in the offices of AC Mlan!
Shock in AC Milan family afterwards the file that reached in the offices of the team which contained a note and a bulletl! No any statement from the team. According to publications in Italy, the indignation of the fans (perhaps) was transported to the administration of the team with the form of threat. A file reached in the offices of rossoneri which contained a bullet and a note. The note was for the chairman Silvio Berlusconi, the general director Adriano Galiani and the technician of team Carlo Ancelotti. "For the negative results and error choices..." , it reported the note and naturally all the... recipients began to be afraid with the particular threat. In any case up to moment has not existed an official statement.
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Wow! :eekani: I hope now to understood that this is not going on, and they cant keep joking with us.
_MaJi_tz
25-01-2008, 05:28
http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=559966
Warning - threat... with bullet reached in the offices of AC Mlan!
Hey look today what i read from a greek site about footbal news.
From:http://sports.pathfinder.gr/football/europe/italy/serie-a/milan/588464.html
The article says.....
Warning - threat... with bullet reached in the offices of AC Mlan!
Shock in AC Milan family afterwards the file that reached in the offices of the team which contained a note and a bulletl! No any statement from the team. According to publications in Italy, the indignation of the fans (perhaps) was transported to the administration of the team with the form of threat. A file reached in the offices of rossoneri which contained a bullet and a note. The note was for the chairman Silvio Berlusconi, the general director Adriano Galiani and the technician of team Carlo Ancelotti. "For the negative results and error choices..." , it reported the note and naturally all the... recipients began to be afraid with the particular threat. In any case up to moment has not existed an official statement.
In other news the bullet was reportedly from a shot fired from Milan's own Alberto Gilardino. He was allegedly aiming at Moratti but as usual the shot went the wrong way - Reuters, AP.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWe98NJ2rCY&feature=related
in only one game...
No stats are needed is you understand football, the moves and positioning say enough.
The bullet surprised me,and aldough I hope its just a practical joke warning, Milan fans are becoming really irritated by Silvio and Galliani. One thing is to shut up and the other is to constantly lie and make fools out of milans faithfull San Siro crowd that knows everything about football.
Come on Berlusconi, buy someone fot christ sake. We dont look good and have made too much pressure on Pato, and we even dont let him play the way he wants. Carlo after Napoli game: " pato needs to learn to play for the team." After that, in 2 games Pato only passes the ball back to Pirlo or Seedorf, and we played long balls like England in 70's. Just an example to show we are using Pato as an excuse for not buying anyone really ready to play at highest levels right now. Pato is a phenomenon, but will be ready in 2 years, not now. And if Carlo misstreats him like he doesn now, Pato will not develop. You all saw how he played after he scored against Napoli and when he gained some freedom. He needs confidence and boost, freedom. You cant cage the brazilians. Well, only Emerson.
rosoneri_11
25-01-2008, 11:10
From: http://www.calciomercato.com/index.php?c=21&a=68747
Arsenal, l'ivoriano Eboue: 'Mi vogliono Juve e Milan'
16:56 del 25 gennaio
Il terzino dell'Arsenal Emmanuel Eboue ha rivelato a skysports.com che Milan e Juve lo avrebbero richiesto nel mercato invernale, ma il 24enne ivoriano, per evitare polemiche con la dirigenza dei gunners, ha poi corretto il tiro : 'Non voglio parlare di mercato, posso dire che mi hanno cercato a gennaio molti club importanti. Comunque io penso all'Arsenal, non ho chiesto di esser ceduto, ma non si sa mai cosa può succedere nel mercato". Eboue è stato scavalcato dal francese Bakary Sagna nelle preferenze di mister Wenger.
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Sounds good, but.............................
From: http://www.calciomercato.com/index.php?c=21&a=68747
Arsenal, l'ivoriano Eboue: 'Mi vogliono Juve e Milan'
16:56 del 25 gennaio
Il terzino dell'Arsenal Emmanuel Eboue ha rivelato a skysports.com che Milan e Juve lo avrebbero richiesto nel mercato invernale, ma il 24enne ivoriano, per evitare polemiche con la dirigenza dei gunners, ha poi corretto il tiro : 'Non voglio parlare di mercato, posso dire che mi hanno cercato a gennaio molti club importanti. Comunque io penso all'Arsenal, non ho chiesto di esser ceduto, ma non si sa mai cosa può succedere nel mercato". Eboue è stato scavalcato dal francese Bakary Sagna nelle preferenze di mister Wenger.
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Sounds good, but.............................
Here it is in English
Ebouè: Milan and Juve want me
Saturday 26 January, 2008
Arsenal full-back Emmanuel Ebouè reveals he has received offers from both Milan and Juventus.
The 24-year-old has been a regular starter for the Gunners since joining from Beveren in 2005, originally as a right-back but more recently in right-midfield.
Speaking to skysports.com from the African Cup of Nations, the Ivory Coast international confessed he had been approached for a January move to Italy.
"I didn't want to talk about that. What I can say is that many big clubs spoke to Arsenal about a transfer in the January transfer window," said Ebouè.
"But for me, it is Arsenal for the moment. I did not put a transfer request in. I like Arsenal. However, you never know [what might happen].”
Ebouè is set to face the Rossoneri in the Champions League second round next month.
Claudio Ranieri’s Juve are at the centre of an injury crisis in defence, but Ebouè would also be useful to fill in for long-term absentees down right midfield, Mauro Camoranesi and Marco Marchionni.
Good player, can play both at full back and midfield.
I think he'd be a real big hit in Italy.
I'd take him any day, but Arsenal will not sell him now before our game. Great fullback.
rosoneri_11
26-01-2008, 12:08
I'd take him any day, but Arsenal will not sell him now before our game. Great fullback.
Yes he is a great full back.Great pace,stamina,naturall fitness,bravery,marking,tackling,passing,crossing,he is young.He has it all for his role.
Some good news for the future! Berlusconi will most likely be primeminister again :) And he said his first assigment is to take care of the garbage problem in Italy. So, the first thing he'll do is take care of Moratti obviously :)
And things will go back as usual, only without Juve, escellent...
Yes he is a great full back.Great pace,stamina,naturall fitness,bravery,marking,tackling,passing,crossing,he is young.He has it all for his role.
The only thing I don't like about him is his diving, but as time has gone on he has cut down on the theatrics.
Graeme C
26-01-2008, 15:53
Some good news for the future! Berlusconi will most likely be primeminister again :) And he said his first assigment is to take care of the garbage problem in Italy. So, the first thing he'll do is take care of Moratti obviously :)
hahahaha thanks for making me giggle on that one!
Yes he is a great full back.Great pace,stamina,naturall fitness,bravery,marking,tackling,passing,crossing,he is young.He has it all for his role.
I agree he is the "modern' full back...
for fulback let"s buy Panuci he is born Rossonjero
Berlusconi prime-minister :gun: :gun: lot s of money for mercato
A talented player like aguero won't choose a loser club like Inter
In other news the bullet was reportedly from a shot fired from Milan's own Alberto Gilardino. He was allegedly aiming at Moratti but as usual the shot went the wrong way - Reuters, AP.
LOLL.. You could be a good stand-up comedian Dru :D
About Maldini's asking for Sergio Ramos, several years ago Paolo said he'd like to have Lucio as his partner in the defense, but as far as I know, the board didn't even notice it. :stupid:
Some good news for the future! Berlusconi will most likely be primeminister again :) And he said his first assigment is to take care of the garbage problem in Italy. So, the first thing he'll do is take care of Moratti obviously :)
And things will go back as usual, only without Juve, escellent...
Hehe, I really like this new :firedev: you know that.
Some good news for the future! Berlusconi will most likely be primeminister again :) And he said his first assigment is to take care of the garbage problem in Italy. So, the first thing he'll do is take care of Moratti obviously :)
And things will go back as usual, only without Juve, escellent...
And he said he'll make the use of wiretaps illegal and they can't be used on court.
Anyone ordering or carrying out unauthorised telephone intercepts, which he called a violation of privacy, would face a five-year jail sentence. Editors who published them would be fined up to £1.5m.
So, i wouldn't be so sure about "only without Juve" part :D
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article3257057.ece
And he said he'll make the use of wiretaps illegal and they can't be used on court.
Anyone ordering or carrying out unauthorised telephone intercepts, which he called a violation of privacy, would face a five-year jail sentence. Editors who published them would be fined up to £1.5m.
So, i wouldn't be so sure about "only without Juve" part :D
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article3257057.ece
ok, Juve can be second for 3 years untill we reach number 20. And Moratti could go to jail, right?
eboue sounds good to me... and while we're at it, why don't buy him with kolo toure all together?
Moratti can join Moggi in retirement and Mancio would be PROMOTED from Inter coach to Milan ball boy :)
Some good news for the future! Berlusconi will most likely be primeminister again :) And he said his first assigment is to take care of the garbage problem in Italy. So, the first thing he'll do is take care of Moratti obviously :)
I know you are not entirerly serious, but I would like to point out that this is not good news for Milan IMO. Berlusconi outside politics would be much more beneficial for us.
Snapster
28-01-2008, 06:58
I know you are not entirerly serious, but I would like to point out that this is not good news for Milan IMO. Berlusconi outside politics would be much more beneficial for us.
It's maybe the lesser of two evils, you could also argue we've had a downturn since he's been out of power as there is potential for rivals to knock him when he's down and get him somewhere where it hurts... Milan.
:bri:
I can't believe what goal.com is reporting :wallbang: (not that goal.com is the beacon of truth for us all to aspire to anyway :D )
They say that some of our Scouts are in Africa for the CAN to scout DORGBA :wth: I mean some young exciting African kid who nobody knows about sure but DROGBA?? Can't they compile a report about him based on his preimiership/CL/Lique1 performances :confused: I think this is just insulting delay tactics to gloss over our non-existence in this winter mercato :5dito:
Sell Gila and get us Aguero already :nunu:
i think drogba + money may well be heading towards barca in exchange for r10 (in the summer). I really wouldnt be surprised, 'good' move by both clubs.
Is there a winter mercato drucurl? :D
Dr Milano
28-01-2008, 14:50
Have Milan actually been linked with anyone seriously ?
except the 100 mill B.S and Zambrotta !!
Capo Ultra
28-01-2008, 17:35
UFFICIALE: Grimi to Sporting Lissabon on loan.
http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/?action=read&id=91045
transfer window period almost up, and no one's coming... (yet)
:v46:
HO-YOUNG
29-01-2008, 08:42
It is obvious that Milan will not buy any one this winter... at times i regret the day that Pato scored on his debut and R99 scored twice... now it seems all our problems are solved in the eyes of the purse handlers!!!
transfer window period almost up, and no one's coming... (yet)
:v46:
:drunk: *hic* Don't worry soon Uncle Berloo is getting us *hic* Quaresma :r11: and Aguero and Danny *hic* Alvesssfrqwe;tfw;w in thuuuurrrrr 31st :beer: He also primised me a date with Tyra Bank$ :rr29: and a shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinyyprq new Subaru WRX *hic* STi :hangover:
eeen Baloo I trust :cheers:
sry about the baaaaad typing.......my touch is a bit heavvvvvvvvvvy....guess now I know what it feel like to be gila :5drunk: ...I love him so much you know...he really IS a romantic good looking boy I alos :love: you guys too.....you're all beautiful and really nice and smart and ...........
Dosena , Zapata we shold bay
rosoneri_11
30-01-2008, 06:20
Chelsea enter Amauri hunt
From: http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jan30e.html
Rumours are circulating that Chelsea could challenge Milan and Juventus for the signature of Palermo striking star Amauri in the summer.
The Brazilian hitman has become one of the hottest properties in calcio and is a talismanic figure at the Stadio Renzo Barbera.
However, Palermo President Maurizio Zamparini has accepted that the former Chievo man will leave the club in the summer, prompting a flurry of interest from some of Europe’s biggest clubs.
Barcelona initially led the race for the 27-year-old, but Milan and Juventus have made their interest known in recent weeks and now it seems that Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich has joined the fray.
Reports suggest that the Russian tycoon is prepared to table a bid of around £12m to try and lure Amauri away from Serie A.
While Juve and Milan see Amauri as an important investment for the future, it is unlikely that they would be able to match the financial power of Chelsea.
Concrete negotiations probably won’t take place before the summer, but the news of interest from West London will come as a boost to Zamparini as he looks to cash in his prized asset.
Flamini is finishing his contract with Arsenal, and AC Milan should try for this guy.
He is a fantastic player.
scudeto4milan
30-01-2008, 10:50
Dida, Kalac, Fiori, Cafu, Simic, Favalli, Serginho, Emerson, Brocchi, Ba and Ronaldo can leave... Of course all of them can't leave in january, but within the start of next season they should all be gone. We have a goalkeeping-problem, no doubt about it. And we should get some younger players to replace them, even without all these oldies we would still have quite an experienced squad.
i totally agree with you, but i don't think any change to our dear rossoneri should be drastic , it should be gradual, i think we should be looking at going for the best goalkeeper come summer 2008.
Flamini is finishing his contract with Arsenal, and AC Milan should try for this guy.
He is a fantastic player.
Very true he is a superb player and tbh I don't think he'll sign a new contract.
Giovanni
30-01-2008, 17:54
What i find funny is we have 774 pages of discussions and we have signed noone (except the summer signing Pato). Just a thought about how much life can be ironic...
remote2book
30-01-2008, 18:39
wow even last year we bought oddo at this time...this year its been nothing...i think all the hype has gone to pato and noone is really thinking about the market
noone at the management maybe, we fans are very aware of the market :)
remote2book
30-01-2008, 18:56
i think thats what the managment wants us to think....just to think about pato...but we still have many problems in defence..GK
What i find funny is we have 774 pages of discussions and we have signed noone (except the summer signing Pato). Just a thought about how much life can be ironic...
lolz... yes it is .. u name it.. Benzema,Frey,Berbatov,Zambrotta,Doni, etc :D. at the end of this winter mercato there's no one coming to fill the name in this therad :tong: but i believe Zambrotta will come in summer. this winter mercato closed today, isn't it?or there's still 1 more day?
Very true he is a superb player and tbh I don't think he'll sign a new contract.
You're an Arsenal fan, aren't you Ghost? What makes you seem so pessimist, buddy? He's finally become a starter, after being a sub for years. Is he asking for a much higher salary?
You're an Arsenal fan, aren't you Ghost? What makes you seem so pessimist, buddy? He's finally become a starter, after being a sub for years. Is he asking for a much higher salary?
Yeah, reason I say this is because I remember the way he left Marseille and basically he broke a promise he made to the chairman of how he was going to re-new his contract. My impression of Flamini is a great player, a player who is very commited and reminds me of a young Gattuso but at the same time untrustworthy.
Also currently Flamini is in the lower band of earners at Arsenal and he wants to be at the highest band like Gallas (he ain't no Gallas), Arsenal are offering him money which is in the middle band but he's refusing to accept it, to be fair I don't want players like this at Arsenal. Like i've said before a great player he might be but I feel Diaby has much more potential and he would get phased into the Patrick Vieira type of player who Arsenal have missing for a long time more easier.
HO-YOUNG
31-01-2008, 14:51
Yeah, reason I say this is because I remember the way he left Marseille and basically he broke a promise he made to the chairman of how he was going to re-new his contract. My impression of Flamini is a great player, a player who is very commited and reminds me of a young Gattuso but at the same time untrustworthy.
Also currently Flamini is in the lower band of earners at Arsenal and he wants to be at the highest band like Gallas (he ain't no Gallas), Arsenal are offering him money which is in the middle band but he's refusing to accept it, to be fair I don't want players like this at Arsenal. Like i've said before a great player he might be but I feel Diaby has much more potential and he would get phased into the Patrick Vieira type of player who Arsenal have missing for a long time more easier.
When Milan and Arsenal face off who will u support?
Declare yourself from now...or else!!!
Warro Bantan
31-01-2008, 15:04
We can, and probably would find the money to pay him what he wants...but some how, I dont see him in Milan...have there even been rumors about a mutual or even single direction interest?
He would be a good addition to the squad, but I cant see him starting over either Ambro or Rino...even though he is extremely talented, and would bring something different to the team.
Who I would want is Fabregas to understudy Pirlo...but that is really just a dream!
HO-YOUNG
31-01-2008, 15:18
We can, and probably would find the money to pay him what he wants...but some how, I dont see him in Milan...have there even been rumors about a mutual or even single direction interest?
He would be a good addition to the squad, but I cant see him starting over either Ambro or Rino...even though he is extremely talented, and would bring something different to the team.
Who I would want is Fabregas to understudy Pirlo...but that is really just a dream!
Dreams dont come expiration date!!! so dont worry.
OK, it's time to roll back the name of this thread to Summer Mercato again :D
OK, it's time to roll back the name of this thread to Summer Mercato again :D
Yeah, do we need a countdown :zany:
775 pages of discussions, suggestions and hopes, and all we got is Michelangelo Albertazzi...
Well done Galliani
Warro Bantan
01-02-2008, 00:11
Ho Young...why should he? We have several "boaties" on the site...dont kno that there is a law against anyone supporting two teams and not one...of course, the dilemma becomes apparent when those two teams happen to face off vs each other.
I recall, before I became a fanatic Milan fan, admiring Arsenal, and Real Madrid, if only for the style of football they played. (Arsenal was my Dad´s team, so I have some level of allegiance to them still, I must confess, if only in his memory...while I remain completely impressed by the Madrid of Di Stefano and Puskas...)
So this "double" allegiance, for me, is not a problem....even if it might be for you, though I think your post was faceious.
I have seen us beat Madrid, and no one was happier than me...and I look forward to us beating Arsenal...though I admit that were we to lose to them, I wouldnt feel too badly, as they really play wonderful football, and at the end of the day, I am a fan of good football...even if my team is on the losing end.
775 pages of discussions, suggestions and hopes, and all we got is Michelangelo Albertazzi...
Well done Galliani
That would make a nice t-shirt!
Thread renamed, Summer Mercato time! :D
kastriot
01-02-2008, 07:00
Thread renamed, Summer Mercato time! :D
Maybe the best way is to close this one and open a new one Vadim, cuz this one is to loaded and its takes time to open and brows it, and I have really fast internet....I think that members that dont have broadband face difficulties while opening this thread!!!!!
Just a though!!
Completely agree with Kastriot.
This is one of the two topics i have trouble opening and i also have fast internet.
This was a very nice topic with some great discussions and we all had a great time here, especially during summer mercato.
It'll sure make the MM history books but enough is enough
:)
Maybe the best way is to close this one and open a new one Vadim, cuz this one is to loaded and its takes time to open and brows it, and I have really fast internet....I think that members that dont have broadband face difficulties while opening this thread!!!!!
Just a though!!
OK, I didn't realize people were having that problem.
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