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King tiger
11-03-2007, 13:58
e onda bi velkim slovom napiso :D
milanisti2503
11-03-2007, 20:50
I heard rumours that said contract-talks between Chelsea and John Terry has broken down. Now that would be quality signing!
Get one player in each department:
Gianluigi Buffon (Juventus)
John Terry (Chelsea)
Diego (Werder Bremen)
Fernando Torres (Atletico Madrid)
Wishful thinking... :tong:
get them all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
According to Friday's Tuttosport ( yes, i know :) ) Milan offered 40 M Eur to Juve for Buffon ( the same ammount Juve payed to Parma) and Juve rejected the offer.
Few hours after Tuttosport wrote this Dida signed his new contract with Milan.
As much as Tuttosport is unreliable and as much as 40 M Eur seem unbelievable, i won't be suprised if Milan did make the final attempt on Buffon and when Juve rejected the offer you decided to keep Dida !
hhmm.. I was reading todays NewsPaper ( Singapore ) and there was a report
about this John Terry Issue.. its a general NewsPaper not a specialised one..
(meaning it covers all the Worlds Latest News.. not just Football)
there was one sentence which totally shocked me..
"Terry,26, is reportedly Demandin 130,000 per week
in a 9 year contract with a "Limitless Parity" clause.
The clause would Guarantee him to be the clubs Highest
Paid Player till he turns to 35.
He is indeed asking for the world aint he.. LoLz
rosoneri_11
12-03-2007, 08:18
We need a big change in our team and a differnt playing system.
Serginho,Maldini,Dida,Costacurta,Cafu,Favalli,Fiori should retire!
Simic,Kalac,Ambrosini should be resigned from our team!
Inzaghi,Oliveira,Gilardino,Borrielo should be sold!
Our team is very aged,isn't fast,has not creativity,lacks in fitness and at scoring goals!
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The best players for the first 11 for me are:
DC:Nesta
DMC:Pirlo
DMC/MC:Gattuso
AMC:Kaka
AMR:Gourcuff
The rest all haven't the quality to be in the first 11 in a team that wants to win CL,
Campionato and to play beatiffull football for the next season and for the new milan!
And we should buy better players and younger on their positions.
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Players like:
Storari,Oddo,Bonera,Kaladze,Grimmi,Jankulofski,Brochi,Seedorf,Ronaldo should be our bech!
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I know that all of this is a big change,but it is time to be done.Milan can't survive with that
team if our main cups are CL and campionato!We spend a lot of moneys in the current 2 years on
crap players,we bought players 30+ just to play for us another 1-3 years and not a 20-23 years
old player to play for us 10 years!Our transfer tactics were awfull!
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Just look the last inter and now the current inter.They bougth 5 new starting players.Not 1
or 2 but 5 starting players!!!!Thats a big change that milan needs!
DR:Maicon - great full back!He plays for inter and for brazil as a starter player!
DL:Grosso - great full back, and a world cup championer!
MC:Vieira - he is one of the best MC's.
ST:Ibrahimovic - he is world class palyer!He can do everything he want in the field!
ST:Krespo - he is a clinical striker!
They bought 5 quality players!
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We should follow this example if we want to rule the world, otherwise i can't even imagine
how we could win a trophie, even if coppa italia!
Just look the last inter and now the current inter.They bougth 5 new starting players.Not 1
or 2 but 5 starting players!!!!Thats a big change that milan needs!
DR:Maicon - great full back!He plays for inter and for brazil as a starter player!
DL:Grosso - great full back, and a world cup championer!
MC:Vieira - he is one of the best MC's.
ST:Ibrahimovic - he is world class palyer!He can do everything he want in the field!
ST:Krespo - he is a clinical striker!
They bought 5 quality players!
Inter was doing the same thing every year - buying 4-5-6 world class players.
Why didn't anyone use them as an example in the past if their transfer policy is so good ?
Look at this :
Transfers IN , 97/1998
Ronaldo
Roberto Baggio
Diego Simeone
Dario Simic
Sebastien Frey
Mikael Silvestre
Transfers IN , 1999
Christian Vieri
Luigi Di Biagio
Christian Panucci
Alvaro Recoba
Vladimir Jugovic
Angelo Peruzzi
Laurent Blanc
Grigorios Georgatos
Transfers IN , 2000
Andrea Pirlo
Clarence Seedorf
Ivan Cordoba
Adrian Mutu
Robbie Keane
Hakan Sukur
Vampeta
Transfers IN , 2001
Adriano
Marco Materazzi
Francesco Toldo
Cristiano Zanetti
Sérgio Conceição
Mohamed Kallon
Emre
Okan Buruk
Andres Guglielminpietro
Stephane Dalmat
Transfers IN , 2002
Fabbio Cannavaro
Obafemi Martins
Hernan Crespo
Carlos Gamarra
Francesco Coco
Transfers IN , 2003
Gabriel Batistuta
Kily Gonzalez
Julio Cruz
Andy Van der Meyde
Thomas Helveg
Olivier Dacourt
Giorgos Karagounis
Transfers IN , 2004
Adriano ( back from loan)
Dejan Stankovic
Juan Sebastian Veron
Edgar Davids
Esteban Cambiasso
Sinisa Mihajlovic
Nicolas Burdisso
Ze Maria
Fabian Carini
Transfers IN , 2005
Luis Figo
David Pizzaro
Pierre Wome
Cesar
Julio Cesar
You can see they were also buying 5-8 quality players every year and they still failed.
And don't forget how did they buy 2 of these 5 players ( Ibrahimovic and Vieira). They would have never bought them if Juve wasn't relegated.
Our team is very aged,isn't fast,has not creativity,lacks in fitness and at scoring goals!
I'll respectfully disagree with you John. It is my belief that this aged team, though in need of a change will be the 2007 CL title winners. I hope you wouldnt mind that happening.
Which of John's points do you disagree with Kui?
Graeme C
13-03-2007, 07:21
We need a big change in our team and a differnt playing system.
Serginho,Maldini,Dida,Costacurta,Cafu,Favalli,Fiori should retire!
Simic,Kalac,Ambrosini should be resigned from our team!
Inzaghi,Oliveira,Gilardino,Borrielo should be sold!
Our team is very aged,isn't fast,has not creativity,lacks in fitness and at scoring goals!
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The best players for the first 11 for me are:
DC:Nesta
DMC:Pirlo
DMC/MC:Gattuso
AMC:Kaka
AMR:Gourcuff
The rest all haven't the quality to be in the first 11 in a team that wants to win CL,
Campionato and to play beatiffull football for the next season and for the new milan!
And we should buy better players and younger on their positions.
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Players like:
Storari,Oddo,Bonera,Kaladze,Grimmi,Jankulofski,Brochi,Seedorf,Ronaldo should be our bech!
I agree with some of your stuff here, but to be honest i dont know why we even have Grimi on the bench... he would be better off playing for a lower team and getting lots of Seria A experience.
The problem we have is that for the last few seasons we have just bought squad players, not any players who can offer us anything new and different. In the summer when we lost Rui, Stam and Sheva i thought we really went backwards... Bonera is great, when Nesta comes back i will look forward to these 2 holding the line. Gourcuff is really good, but yet again ancelloti doesnt trust the young frenchman which is very sad! in my opinion Gourcuff adds alot more to the team than what Brocchi, Seedorf and Ambrosini can do. The main thing that gets me is that if we are a goal down, or if the game is 0-0 we dont have the squad to try and win, let alone kill off games.
We still are relying on Cafu, Ambro, and inzaghi to come on and perform miracles which is crazy.
My main worry this year has been the attack.. if you look at the goals scored from past years we have had more than one of our strikers in double figures.. this year we will be lucky to do so. Ronaldo has been a pretty good signing, but hes come too late.. Oliviera has been the biggest flop of season..
Something in a italian paper today that i totally agree with, why are we spending £3 mill a year on Dida who makes big mistakes all the time?
Rifondazione Milan: allenatore e sogni Ronaldinho-Trezeguet
12:40 del 13 marzo
Il Milan prepara una rivoluzione in vista della prossima stagione. Ecco gli obiettivi, ma l'impresa non è semplice:
- Lippi o Rijkaard in panchina al posto di Ancelotti, che piace in Spagna;
- Puyol e Zambrotta per la difesa;
- Diarra e Lampard a centrocampo;
- Ronaldinho e Trezeguet sono i sogni dell'attacco.
(Repubblica)
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Milan's objectives :
- Lippi or Rijkaard to replace Ancelotti who'd like to be a coach in Spain
- Puyol and Zambrotta in defense
- Diarra and Lampard in midfield
- Ronaldinho and Trezeguet in attack
The source is La Repubblica which is , imo, as bad as Tribal.
Also, getting all of them seems almost unbelievable, but if it happens then Milan will have the best team in ITA for sure.
But now even Tuttosport confirms that Milan is after Trez and few others mentioned in La Repubblica :
Milan: Gourcuff e Oliveira flop
08:45 del 13 marzo
Gourcuff e Ricardo Oliveira hanno deluso, perdendo il posto e la fiducia di Ancelotti. A fine stagione l'attaccante brasiliano verrà ceduto, mentre il centrocampista francese andrà via in prestito.
I primi obiettivi dei rossoneri sul mercato sono Puyol, Diarra, Emerson e Trezeguet.
(Tuttosport)
According to Tuttosport, Gourcuff and RO have dissapointed, lost their place, and they've lost Ancelotti's faith in them . At the end of the season Gourcuff may be loaned and RO sold.
Main objectives for Milan at summer mercato are Puyol, Diarra, Emerson and Trezeguet.
So, we have 2 not very reliable sources but they both mention Trez and Diarra, and suprisingly they say Puyol is an objective.
Maybe Milan will try to get Trez by offering money and Gourcuff on loan to Juve ??
Me again :)
According to Corriere dello Sport , Milan and Palermo are after Fernando Menegazzo, 26 years old ex-Siena and Catania midfielder, now at Bordaux ( France).
According to wikipedia, the Brazilian has played for Juventude and Gremio in Brazil before his arival in Italy. He has 1 cap for Brazilian NT/
Juventude 36 (6)
Grêmio (loan) 9 (0)
Siena 24 (2)
Catania 18 (0)
Bordeaux 33 (5)
Graeme C
13-03-2007, 10:05
i havent heard of him, im not saying that hes not good.. just that i had never heard of Oliviera before he came to Milan so..
Pireloke
13-03-2007, 10:28
It makes sense that a revolution comes, because three years without winning jack and a possible non qualification for the next CL hanging over our heads like the damocles sword (the dreamers amongst us will wake up soon enough when we will be ridiculised in this CL by either Bayern or the next opponent, Roma or Man Utd), even the patience of Berlusconi will now be over.
There has to be silverware next season and I'm not talking about the Coppa Inter err Italia... so be prepared for a spending spree you haven't witnessed since the Savicevic and Boban times... and be prepared for a new trainer if we fail to win the CL (which we will 99%, my money is on RIjkaard next year)
However, I strongly disagree with the statements on Gourcuff, in all matches save one he appeared he made an excellent impression and he will become a great player no doubt, so loaning him, or god forbid, selling him would be a huge mistake.
Graeme C
13-03-2007, 10:32
It makes sense that a revolution comes, because three years without winning jack and a possible non qualification for the next CL hanging over our heads (the dreamsers among us will wake up soon enough when we will be ridiculised in this CL by either Bayern or the next opponent, Roma or Man Utd), even the patience of Berlusconi will now be over.
There has to be silverware next season and I'm not talking about the Coppa Inter err Italia... so be prepared for a spending spree you haven't witnessed since the Savicevic and Boban times...
However, I strongly disagree with the statements on Gourcuff, in all matches save one he appeared he made an excellent impression and he will become a great player no doubt, so loaning him, or god forbid, selling him would be a huge mistake.
i agree, i think Gourcuff should stay! All these rumours, if Ancelloti loses to Bayern hes out, if he doesnt get 4th place, hes out... Out of Rijkaard and Lippi.. I would prefer Lippi...
Whoever we buy, there had best be a few defenders and wide players amongst them or we will be doing this all over again next year.
eltomas2
13-03-2007, 14:08
I don't see how loaning out Gourcuff is such a bad idea, going to a club in which he'll play more games and gain more experience and THEN coming back to Milan a year later as a better player than when he left is not bad for us...as much as I hate to admit seedof is still providing more quality compared to the young frenchman
Given that Gourcuff is hardly ever played, i'm not sure how you can come to that conclusion eltomas.
With Di Rossi racially abusing Abidal, the Frenchman has struck Italy off of his list of possible destinations. So thanks to that idiot Roman, we can pretty much forget any chance of signing him.
Though i guess that might leave the way open for a bid for Pasqual(e) of Fiorentina. He'd probably be just as expensive seeing as he's at a fellow Italian side. Maybe we could give them cash+Gilardino for Toni & Pasqual(e)?
My imagination knows no bounds :D
Rijkaard back to the roots!!!! :DDD would be grat
DD? You mean Didier Deschamp????? :confused:
Graeme C
13-03-2007, 16:35
just read something interesting.. Lippi is taking charge of the Europe XI squad game, quite funny..i read on..
"Lippi's squad includes AC Milan quartet Paolo Maldini, Gennaro Gattuso, Andrea Pirlo and Ronaldo."
Getting practise for next year? :grinser:
eltomas2
14-03-2007, 14:27
Given that Gourcuff is hardly ever played, i'm not sure how you can come to that conclusion eltomas.
With Di Rossi racially abusing Abidal, the Frenchman has struck Italy off of his list of possible destinations. So thanks to that idiot Roman, we can pretty much forget any chance of signing him.
Though i guess that might leave the way open for a bid for Pasqual(e) of Fiorentina. He'd probably be just as expensive seeing as he's at a fellow Italian side. Maybe we could give them cash+Gilardino for Toni & Pasqual(e)?
My imagination knows no bounds :D
and why hasn't he played? cause of his age? inexperience? there are a bunch of reasons but it's mainly cause the coach doesn't think that RIGHT NOW he's starting XI material...I just think about Eto, went to Mallorca from Real Madrid (at that time ronnie and raul where in front of eto for a starting position) and literally exploded...gourcuff has kaka and seedorf to overcome for a starting position, let's loan him to another team and let him get MORE playing time because, as you said yourself, he hasn't even played that much here
and why hasn't he played? cause of his age? inexperience? there are a bunch of reasons but it's mainly cause the coach doesn't think that RIGHT NOW he's starting XI material...I just think about Eto, went to Mallorca from Real Madrid (at that time ronnie and raul where in front of eto for a starting position) and literally exploded...gourcuff has kaka and seedorf to overcome for a starting position, let's loan him to another team and let him get MORE playing time because, as you said yourself, he hasn't even played that much here
remember wen kaka came? rui costa was ahead of him but kaka wound up taking his place. kaka wasnt the player he is todai, he had many nites off, but we showed trust. we shud do the same with gorcuff because he is much better than seedorf, and he adds an element of surprise. had we played rui costa back then n loaned kaka, do u think he would be the player that he is todai?
and why hasn't he played? cause of his age? inexperience? there are a bunch of reasons but it's mainly cause the coach doesn't think that RIGHT NOW he's starting XI material...I just think about Eto, went to Mallorca from Real Madrid (at that time ronnie and raul where in front of eto for a starting position) and literally exploded...gourcuff has kaka and seedorf to overcome for a starting position, let's loan him to another team and let him get MORE playing time because, as you said yourself, he hasn't even played that much here
My point was more about the quality of his performances compared to those of Seedorf, than about him being loaned out. I think that loaning him out is a good idea if he's going to suffer another season without the managers faith.
DD? You mean Didier Deschamp????? :confused:
naaa, was just a tip failure. to see Rijkaard back in milano would be great
phew!
I thought you wanted 'the water carrier' as a boss for one moment :ilol:
eltomas2
14-03-2007, 22:16
remember wen kaka came? rui costa was ahead of him but kaka wound up taking his place. kaka wasnt the player he is todai, he had many nites off, but we showed trust. we shud do the same with gorcuff because he is much better than seedorf, and he adds an element of surprise. had we played rui costa back then n loaned kaka, do u think he would be the player that he is todai?
yeah, that thought has crossed my mind too but the difference is that ancelotti seemed to have more faith in Kaka back then than in Gourcuff right now, I just want the kid to play more minutes
yeah, that thought has crossed my mind too but the difference is that ancelotti seemed to have more faith in Kaka back then than in Gourcuff right now, I just want the kid to play more minutes
i agree with u, but thats the issue right there, ancelotti's faith. how many of the players that we have loaned out have come back n been our starters in recent history? brochi is pretty much the onli one i can think of. remember sam dalla bona, donati, kutzov, ect.? we sent them to small teams n they played like small players. Gourcuff came out of nowhere, none of us knew who he was, and he immediattely impressed. he had amazing games and was alwais noted when he played. yet, ancelotti wud rather play the old predictable 30 y o seedorf. whats the point of investing on youth if they are gonna sit on the bench? whats the point of having a deep bench if there is no rotation? if we had an amazing team rite now, i wudnt mind the youngster sitting on the bench, but our team has played like crap all season long, and gourcuff can in no way make matters worse.
So, what do you guys make of this? (sorry if it's been posted somewhere)
Robinho invites Milan approach Wednesday 14 March, 2007
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Milan approached Robinho before settling for Ronaldo, revealed the striker, but he is ready to reconsider the move this summer.
The Rossoneri looked at several options to reinforce their front line in January and the 24-year-old Brazilian had been suggested as a potential target.
Now Robinho himself has told website Globoesporte.com that it was more than a simple rumour in the Press.
“During the January transfer window Milan came looking for me,” he explained. “Real Madrid chose to keep me, so the Italian club turned its attention towards Ronaldo.”
It may be considered quite a snub that Il Fenomeno was not first choice in the Real squad, but the two could end up being teammates again at San Siro.
“If things keep going like this, I think it will be difficult for me to stay in Madrid. I would go elsewhere and try to find more space.”
That club could well be Milan, who are said to be unsatisfied with the progress shown by Alberto Gilardino and Ricardo Oliveira this term.
Although Ronaldinho has repeatedly been named as the primary target, it won’t be easy to tempt him away from Barcelona.
Robinho had been linked to Milan when he was still at Santos in the summer of 2005, although he has found life tough under Fabio Capello’s regime.
“He does not have faith in me. If he did, then I would be a first team player, not a reserve. It’s only logical and I take nothing back,” continued the fiery youngster.
“I was asked if I was happy and I said yes because I live in a nice house in a lovely city. But I am only truly happy on the field and no player can be when he is only allowed a few minutes in the second half.”
http://www.channel4.com/sport/footb...lia/mar14q.html
hitmannq8
15-03-2007, 01:01
Price, compatability to team, reality of transfer:
Robinho >> Ronaldinho
Talent, ambition, showing off, KAKA:
Ronaldinho << Robinho
both have their positives and negatives..i prefer robinho mainly cuz of money, and then spend the rest on alves, buffon, zambrotta,pato, whoever..
I think so too. If this article is telling the truth, then I like that Robinho is actively trying to join us. At least it shows that he's ambitious, not just some hyped up star who really doesn't give a fruit anymore.
Robinho's young with LOTS of potential. So what if he's been crap at Real, who hasn't??!!!
ACMILAN1983
15-03-2007, 07:33
I'd personally rather get Robinho than Ronaldinho. Age isn't really an issue for me with either of them, as both have at least a good few years to give. However, Robinho is generally more direct, his pace and ability to beat players (not to say R10 can't ;) ) will come in useful and he can be used well in wide areas and as a second forward which Ronaldo might like.
Finally, I think he compliments Kaka better than Ronaldinho. I won't bother mentioning price differences.
yeah, that thought has crossed my mind too but the difference is that ancelotti seemed to have more faith in Kaka back then than in Gourcuff right now, I just want the kid to play more minutes
Kaka was two years older than Gourcuff when he started out in Milan. Physically, Gourcuff still hasn't finished growing yet either. We have some time to let the kid grow without forcing him into the side too quickly. However, I do feel this season he has deserved more starts in the side.
Pireloke
15-03-2007, 12:40
Robinho has one major disadvantage though, when massive Serie A defenders like Matterazzi try to hit him and they miss him, he has a bronchitis from the air wave alone :/
Zola, Maradona, Hassler, Papin ... they didn't seem to have too many problems regarding their height and Serie A defenders. I'm sure Robinho will be just fine.
I think Robinho could adapt, but the other players you compare him too Jim, were all alot more experienced when they started in Serie A, bar Zola, and were World Class, something that Robinho has yet to prove. In our current system he could only play SS.
i agree with u, but thats the issue right there, ancelotti's faith. how many of the players that we have loaned out have come back n been our starters in recent history? brochi is pretty much the onli one i can think of. remember sam dalla bona, donati, kutzov, ect.? we sent them to small teams n they played like small players. Gourcuff came out of nowhere, none of us knew who he was, and he immediattely impressed. he had amazing games and was alwais noted when he played. yet, ancelotti wud rather play the old predictable 30 y o seedorf. whats the point of investing on youth if they are gonna sit on the bench? whats the point of having a deep bench if there is no rotation? if we had an amazing team rite now, i wudnt mind the youngster sitting on the bench, but our team has played like crap all season long, and gourcuff can in no way make matters worse.
Completely agree with you. I think one of the reasons that Ancelotti doesn't put Gourcuff in starters because his style. He always want the team to play cautous football (even if someone like Galliani tell we are playing attacking football, I don't think so). And Gourcuff's defence skill is as good as Kaka :respect: . Apart from Gourcuff grows stronger, faster or we have another coach, I don't think he can be a starter.
If I have to choose between Ronaldinho and Robinho, of course I choose Robinho (just to save money for other ones:D). But I'd rather don't have both. Since we have 4 strikers, 2 AM (I really want Gourcuff to be a starter), should we buy another AM with no defence skill :grinser: . I think we should have 2 more MC (to rotate), 2 or even 3 defenders, and if Dida coutinues like this, Amelia should be our #1 target this summer. A all-midfield-possition midfielder like Sneijder will be a very good transfer (and very realistic too), Diarra (Madrid) can be a choice too. I don't know if Mascherano has been loaned to Liverpool or not, but I don't be bothered to see him in Milan.
Graeme C
16-03-2007, 13:19
Zola, Maradona, Hassler, Papin ... they didn't seem to have too many problems regarding their height and Serie A defenders. I'm sure Robinho will be just fine.
no Papin didnt have any problems :) lol
Maradona and Zola are class above Robinho, and so is Ronaldinho. Milan is trying to sign Ronaldinho with all their powers, and im 90% sure we will make it in the summer mercato.
I don't get the confusion about my post regarding Robinho and Zola, Papin, Maradonna & Hassler. The only comparison i'm making between them is their height, nothing else so saying they were a class above or more experienced is irrelevant.
If smaller players have adapted to Serie A in the past then it needn't be any different with Robinho.
Im saying that becouse of their obvious class they managed to play like they did - brilliantly. Robinho is a great dribbler but nothing more, there is no need for him in Milan.
I agree with mrki Robinho was the reason why Brazil didn't win the Gold Cup,, when Kaka was captain...he and Diego would dish up chance after chance for Robinho to waste.......Out new striker has to be either Huntelaar or Pato :respect:
dictatornz
21-03-2007, 19:39
How about adriano? ... i know hes had some troubles recently ... but i think being part of milans brazilian family would sort him out. ? .... also ribery could be an alternative to ronaldinho/robinho ... c4 is saying he wants to come to italy. thoughts?
if we got adriano he wud wind up being one of the best strikers in the world n wud deff turn around. but there is no way in hell inter wud ever let him go to us. unless we work it out diffrently behind their backs such as:
inter: toni fiore: adriano +cash
Milan adriano Fiore: gila
I agree with mrki Robinho was the reason why Brazil didn't win the Gold Cup,, when Kaka was captain...he and Diego would dish up chance after chance for Robinho to waste.......Out new striker has to be either Huntelaar or Pato :respect:
Bear in mind that Pato is not a striker though, he is similar to Ronaldinho, a wing player or just behind the attackers
Bear in mind that Pato is not a striker though, he is similar to Ronaldinho, a wing player or just behind the attackers
No he's a striker...why else would he want to be the next Ronaldo?
From what I saw of him when he played in the FIFA Club World Cup, I saw him as a free flowing winger who has a tendency to go to the center of the field a lot, may be he wants to be the next Ronaldo, but in terms of performance and goals, but not necessarily the position ;)
Brasileiro
23-03-2007, 01:15
Man, sorry but I can´t stand what saw here...
Robinho was the reason for Brazil din´t win the WC?? :grinser:
C´mon, Drucurl...Robinho was one of the few bright spots in Brazil offense...only Robinho and Kaká delivered...Robinho even make Ronaldo to play better footbal in the WC. The only players(that really played the WC) that could walk in the streets here in Brazil after the WC wrere: Kaká(more or less), Robinho, Dida, Lúcio, Z. Roberto, Juan, Gilberto, Cicinho...
Pato is a second striker, and can play as CF...he isn´t a winger.
Brasileiro
23-03-2007, 01:21
Robinho has one major disadvantage though, when massive Serie A defenders like Matterazzi try to hit him and they miss him, he has a bronchitis from the air wave alone :/
You need to watch Libertadores CUP...Matterazzi is soft if compared that the level of dirty plays and hard tackles of this South America competition...and they always miss Robinho...
Brasileiro
23-03-2007, 01:24
BTW, one insight of Carleto mind in Gazzetta dello Sport:
Il miglior portiere?
"Buffon. Poi vengono Dida e Cech".
Il miglior difensore?
"Nessun dubbio: Alex del Psv"
Il miglior centrocampista?
"Senza i milanisti, scelgo Lampard, Gerrard e De Rossi".
Il miglior attaccante?
"Drogba, Eto'o e Ibrahimovic".
http://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Squadre/Milan/Primo_Piano/2007/03_Marzo/22/ancelotti.shtml
Brasileiro
23-03-2007, 01:53
You need to watch Libertadores CUP...Matterazzi is soft if compared that the level of dirty plays and hard tackles of this South America competition...and they always miss Robinho...
I want to say: Matterazzi is a class act, if compared with the defenders of Libertadores Cup...
Man, sorry but I can´t stand what saw here...
Robinho was the reason for Brazil din´t win the WC?? :grinser:
C´mon, Drucurl...Robinho was one of the few bright spots in Brazil offense...only Robinho and Kaká delivered...Robinho even make Ronaldo to play better footbal in the WC. The only players(that really played the WC) that could walk in the streets here in Brazil after the WC wrere: Kaká(more or less), Robinho, Dida, Lúcio, Z. Roberto, Juan, Gilberto, Cicinho...
Pato is a second striker, and can play as CF...he isn´t a winger.
Drucurl wasn't talking about the WC, he was talking about the CONCACAF Gold Cup in 2003, when they lost the final from Mexico. Robinho was a starter on all 5 matches but he didn't score a single goal.
Brazilians sent the u-23 team there with Kaka, Diego, Robinho, Maicon, Alex, Ewerthon, Julio Baptista, Luisao, Carlos Alberto, Thiago Motta, Gomes as a keeper, etc.
Oh, and Galiani says Milan won't be going after Buffon, Zambrotta and Camoranesi :
Meanwhile, Milan Vice-President Adriano Galliani has again rubbished rumours that Buffon is still a target after Nelson Dida finally extended his deal with the Via Turati outfit.
“Buffon is an excellent player, but we confirmed our trust in Dida recently,” commented the former Lega Calcio chief. “He will still be our goalkeeper as he represents our future.”
Galliani also took the opportunity to dismiss links with Barcelona’s Gianluca Zambrotta and Mauro Camoranesi of Juventus.
“We went for Zambrotta along with Zlatan Ibrahimovic last summer, but we couldn’t sign them as we were not sure of our place in the Champions League,” he added.
“Therefore Zambrotta will not arrive and it is the same case for Camoranesi.”
zlatanov
23-03-2007, 10:34
I think Zambrotta will end up back in Italy, in Milan that is, this summer ... there are two many "clues" that are being "innocently" spread around - he says he likes Milan, speaks of a return to italy in the near future, his wife is having difficulties getting used to life in Spain, then he is talking about having a baby and that it would need "the right" environment to grow in, etc, etc, etc.
Add to this his rather disappointing season at Barca this year and I personally don;t see many obstacles on his way back to Italy.
And Milan themselves, Silvio and Galliani in particular, have been long admirers of him ... and I somehow can't make sense of this "we wonted him last summer, he wonted us too, but missed on him because of ... whatever ... therefore, he won't come to Milan now" ... Am I really alone here in not being able to make sense out of this ;)
For Camoranesi, I don't really need to hear galliani saying to know that he won't be coming to milan, not unless he is a free agent, which he is not.
As for Buffon, after the extension of Dida's contract, I think Buffon is no longer a necessity but more or a luxury that would be persued on a "he-is-available" basis without Milan putting all they've got into going to "war" with Juve or Inter over him.
In other words, I wouldn't entirely exclude a possible move for Buffon but getting him is most probably no longer on top of Milan's "must get no matter what" list.
I won't be suprised at all if he comes back to Italy but i'm not so sure Milan will be his next club.
The team that will need him the most is Juventus. But imo, Zambro back to Juve won't happen and i can't imagine him back.
Inter may try to get him. But they aren't in desperate need of a full back.
Which is the case with Milan also. Last summer Zambro was really necessary to Milan because a replacement for Cafu was needed. This summer he won't be as necessary as he was last August. Oddo should be certain on RB, while Jankulovski, although not as good as Zambrotta, is one of the best LB's ( imo, the best) in serie A and isn't the one who needs to be replaced.
Zambrotta is better than Janku but seeing that other parts of the team are the priority, Milan may easily not even try to get him.
Galliani certanly didn't say this just like that. He knows which are the players Milan really needs.
If he's available , and not too expensive, Milan may make an offer. But i don't see your team entering a bidding war for him .
So, if he comes back to Italy, but not in Milan ... who can get him ?
Why not Roma ?
Zambrotta and a top striker is what Roma needs to be competitive both in CL and in scudetto race. Their apetite grew up after this year's CL performances.
Zambro may prefer Milan but not many players end up in their favourite destination. And i doubt Zambrotta will refuse a transfer to Roma.
Seeing as Zambrotta can play in both fullback positions, i don't see why it would be so difficult to imagine us getting him Tony. It's a little thing called rotation ... Jankulovski & Zambrotta ... Zambrotta & Oddo ... Jankulovski & Oddo ... everyone's a winner and no one gets tired.
zlatanov
23-03-2007, 12:48
The reason why I think Milan will go for Zambrotta, or another back, good at going forward, is that, hopefully, by now we have realized that you can't win both fronts - Serie A and CL - relying on only 1 player for the positions of attcking LB and RB (easily the most physically demanding positions in football) and hope that those players would be able to perform well in more than 60% of the games.
I personally would rather see a younger player join Milan as both Oddo and Janku are either already 30 or very close to becoming soon ... and in Oddo's case, that age is gonna be 31, I believe, next season.
Alves is the dream but he will be hard to get and Real and Barca have advantage I think given that he may very well wanna stay in Spain ... not to mention the price for his services would be at least 20 mil euros with those two high-spending teams in the mix for Alves' signature.
Zambrotta, however, has an dvantage both in price (doubt it will be higher than 10 mil) and in versatility - can play both on the left and right as a back or wing - so getting him would be a great solution for the present and near future ... and would allow the introduction of a young player like Marzoratti in the team too.
A very plausible solution to Milan's defensive issues for next season could be taking Marzoratti back as cover for Oddo at RB, Zambrotta to interchange with janku at LB (or play RB if necessary), and a capable CD (many options for this one).
As for which other team could get Zambrotta in Italy, financially speaking there are several teams that could afford him - Inter, Roma, Milan, Juve - other than that, for me he would end up either in Milan (70%), Juve (20%), or Inter (10%) ... I am putting Inter in the mix only because there were some rumours of Grosso expressing an interest in a move to Roma and should that happen, Inter could easily go for Zambrotta, although I doubt the player himself will opt to go there ... but when money talks, one never knows.
Zlat, in the original, Italian version of the article i posted above, Galliani , about Camoranesi, Buffon and Zambrotta, says none of them will join Milan and Milan will play with other players on those positions next year, not with the ex Juve trio.
For comparisson , he didn't want to comment on Ronaldinho at all, and he didn't say Milan will go or won't go after Dinho.
I wanna say he was pretty specific saying Milan won't go after Gigi, Zambro and Camo.
Jim, i know what squad rotation is and i agree Milan and every big club needs at least 2 very good players on every position.
But it's more important the team to have at least 1 top class player on every position and it's not the case with Milan.
Someone to take over Seedorf's place ( Ronaldinho ?) , a classy striker ( Pippo seems like leaving Milan, Oli may leave also and even if he won't Milan needs an attacker) , and one great Central defender should be top priorities.
Also, i can imagine many Milan players leaving this summer ( Maldini, Costacurta, Inzaghi, Cafu, Serginho, Favalli... ) and all of them will have to be replaced with some squad players which may cost Milan another 10-15 M eur.
Zambrotta may come good but he's not a necessity like he was last year, and if Milan spends around 85-90 M eur for the players that are really needed ( i'm counting Dinho, that's why i'm saying 85-90 M) then all Milan can try is making one single offer for Zambro. If another team offers more, then Galliani will give up, just like he did last year with the same player.
Milan will really need a LB but i think you'll go after someone who'll be Janku's replacement and sit on the bench, not after someone who will replace Janku in the starting line-up.
Galliani knows this. I think that's why he said what he said !
Brasileiro
23-03-2007, 16:44
Drucurl wasn't talking about the WC, he was talking about the CONCACAF Gold Cup in 2003, when they lost the final from Mexico. Robinho was a starter on all 5 matches but he didn't score a single goal.
Brazilians sent the u-23 team there with Kaka, Diego, Robinho, Maicon, Alex, Ewerthon, Julio Baptista, Luisao, Carlos Alberto, Thiago Motta, Gomes as a keeper, etc.
You´re right , Tony...SORRY Drucurl :wallbang: :depress:
Robinho was one of the worse brazilian players in that tournament(if not the worse)...that tournament and the fiasco in Olympic qualy really changed Robinhos game. After that, Robinho go to the bench in Santos also. But the boy worked a lot for improve his game(at that time Robinho was only a dribller), and become a better player...
Oddo was a nice touch, but soemone else is also still needed because you can't put all your money on Oddo, especially playing both CL and league Cafu will be gone and you can't depend on Simic to be a godd replacement, but Zamp. will be a strech I think.
Blacktop
23-03-2007, 21:03
Man, sorry but I can´t stand what saw here...
Robinho was the reason for Brazil din´t win the WC?? :grinser:
C´mon, Drucurl...Robinho was one of the few bright spots in Brazil offense...only Robinho and Kaká delivered...
Kaka delivered against Croatia and was pretty much invisible for the rest of the tournament.
Rayno_acm
24-03-2007, 06:00
Kaka delivered against Croatia and was pretty much invisible for the rest of the tournament.
May be Ronaldinho was more visible, wasn't he? :grinser: :rolleyes:
Kaka was the only Brasileiro, who played atleast quite good.
Robinho never nad a chance to shine in WC2006, the Brasilian squad was clear even before the tournament, the jersey's numbers of the players, who started every game, were from 1 to 11... :stupid:
I personally don't want Robinho in Milan, cuz he is too weak phisically for Serie A, and I think we already have too many Brasilians. So when Brasil have a game somewhere, in Milanello will be left nobody :grinser:
In fact, I can't see which players we have to sign in the summer. :rolleyes:
The good players available aren't that much and they all are too expensive...
Hasan Rossonero
24-03-2007, 09:40
Ronaldinho invites Milan move
Saturday 24 March, 2007
Ronaldinho has spoken publicly about his hopes of joining Milan to play alongside Brazil teammate Kaka.
“I am happy at Barcelona, but in the future you never know what will happen,” said the 2005 Ballon d’Or winner.
The Rossoneri have made absolutely no secret of their intention to make a huge summer bid for Ronaldinho, with vice-President Adriano Galliani assuring they are “in super pole position should he leave Barca.”
Fellow Selecao stars Ronaldo and Kaka have also confirmed they rang up the player to recommend a move to the San Siro.
“It was a nice gesture,” he smiled. “Playing with Kaka is absolute pure joy.”
The two players are currently together for international duty in a tour of Sweden and it is the perfect opportunity to file away the final doubts.
“We have spoken about Milan and will do so again during this tour. But do not ask me for miracles,” confessed Kaka.
“I have many wonderful things to tell him, but after that it is down to the club to enter the fray.”
Milan are stepping up their bid for Ronaldinho after rumours that Inter were trying to intervene and snatch away the superstar.
Reports suggest that Nerazzurri director Marco Branca called up agent Roberto Assis – Ronaldinho’s brother and also agent of Milan striker Ricardo Oliveira – to discuss the possibility of their own proposal.
These claims were given credence by Rossoneri President Silvio Berlusconi. “If Ronaldinho leaves Barcelona, then we are taking him. The buy-out clause in his contract is not a problem. The important thing is to snatch him away from Inter.”
It’s believed that Ronaldinho’s buy-out clause for his contract that expires in 2010 is a staggering £84m.
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from channel 4
_MaJi_tz
24-03-2007, 09:45
We need young stiker huntelar or torres.....Ronnie will come to Milan for sure
Silvio Berlusconi. “The buy-out clause in his contract is not a problem.
Ronaldinho’s buy-out clause for his contract that expires in 2010 is a staggering £84m.
Ehh, i wish i'm Silvio Berlusconi !
£84m = ~125 M eur
Is he really prepared to pay this much ? :stupid:
After watching the Italy - England Under 21 match..I'm THOROUGHLY convinced that we need not pay the airfare to go all the way to SA to buy players...when we have an endless pool of talented players in Italy. Montolivo, Rosina, Chiellini, Pazzini, Lupoli, Rossi etc etc. Montolivo is currently being groomed into Italy's next deep lying playmaker.
After watching the Italy - England Under 21 match..I'm THOROUGHLY convinced that we need not pay the airfare to go all the way to SA to buy players...when we have an endless pool of talented players in Italy. Montolivo, Rosina, Chiellini, Pazzini, Lupoli, Rossi etc etc. Montolivo is currently being groomed into Italy's next deep lying playmaker.
It was a beautiful match, wasn't it ?
I was also impressed by the quality Italians have in their team, on every single position. Although they didn't win, the 3:3 draw could have easily been an Italian win at the end. And lets not forget that this England u-21 team is one of the best they had in last years.
Italy is top favourite to win the EC this summer.
Pazzini was MOM by far. Scored a hat trick and almost brought the win at the end when he missed a chance to score his 4th goal.
Italian attack is woooooow.
Pazzini (Fiorentina), Palladino ( Juventus), Rossi (ManU/Parma), Lupoli (Arsenal/Derby) and Pelle (Cesena) are all among the 15 best young strikers in Europe.
Rosina (Torino), Montolivo (Fiorentina) and Nocerino ( Juventus/Piacenza) offer so much creativity, and the defense, besides conceding 3 goals, is still the best one in Europe with Chiellini ( Juventus) who's allready a senior team material, Inter's Andreolli, Chievo's Mantovani and Juve's Criscito are all very good central defenders besides being so young.
Curci leads the new generation of world class Italian goalkeepers.
Italians didn't have stronger u-21 team since the time Pirlo was the leader of the youngsters.
Although, regarding your wish Milan to go after some of these players.. they'll be all hard to get.
7 of these players play in Juventus and Fiorentina and none of them will be keen on letting them go. Roma won't let Curci easily, just like Torino won't let Rosina for anything less than 15 M Eur, probably even more.
Inter, Manchester and Arsenal are all rich enough to let the young jewls they have go.
WOW is certainly the word to describe the performance put on today. I know it would be difficult to get some of those players (especially those owned by Juventus/Fiorentina) but I was a bit sad to see that there was not one Milan player there. Marzoratti/Pozzi will be there for the next tournament though. Di Gennaro is also talented enough to make it for the next tournament. Things are looking good for the future of Italian football.
Andreolli might be a different case though.
Stezagud
24-03-2007, 14:18
To be honest i dont know what your getting all excited about from todays game :D
Pazzini did well, particularly off the ball but really his last goal shouldve been saved and his first took a deflection. Overall England should have won too, They were still chasing goals even when winning and let Italy back into the game twice, first by slack marking on a set piece a minute after going ahead :wallbang: and then letting them hit them on the break for the equaliser, if Richardson had scored what was an easy volley by just placing it in instead of going for power it wouldve been 4-2 and all over :rolleyes:
Bentley was the best player on the pitch and controlled the game, scoring a good free kick after being scythed down for the umpteemth time to cap an excellent performance. Pazzini may have scored the goals but personally i felt Rosina at least matched him for performance and is the better player overall for the italians. Rossi i felt was dissapointing, he barely got a kick against an inexperienced England defence and seems to have stagnated a bit in the last few years.
On a side note, it did get me thinking about how good a team England could send to the U-21 Championships this summer. The current squad can match Italy even whilst resting Huddlestone for most of the game and there are some top players still eligible for U-21 selection in the senior squad. Rooney, Nugent and Lennon can be added to the attack, Micah Richards to the defence and Carson in goal would make it the strongest U-21 side in Europe imho.
I know its unlikely but i would love to see them all sent to the tournament this summer because i am sure they would become favourites to win it :cool:
It may only be an U-21 tournament but psychologically it would give a huge boost to these players as if they did win it would show them they can match and surpass the best of Europe, and that experience would be extremely useful to the ones who progress to the senior squad.
Graeme C
24-03-2007, 18:29
rosina has really impressed me recently. we could play a 4231 formation. Milan should try and get as many italy under -21s as possible.. is pozzi in the U21?
his greatest hits
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsFVS2MqaIk
I hope he's not an Adriano though..I've only seen him use his left foot. That aside, he was one of the best players on the pitch for Italy today. I'd like us to show some interest in Montolivo though. We can groom him to be our Pirlo replacement. I'll start watching some more Fiorentina matches so I can form a better opinion on he/Pazzini.
Graeme C
24-03-2007, 19:27
I hope he's not an Adriano though..I've only seen him use his left foot. That aside, he was one of the best players on the pitch for Italy today. I'd like us to show some interest in Montolivo though. We can groom him to be our Pirlo replacement. I'll start watching some more Fiorentina matches so I can form a better opinion on he/Pazzini.
lol youl be lucky to see pazzini start with Toni- Mutu scoring buckets :P
rosina has really impressed me recently. we could play a 4231 formation. Milan should try and get as many italy under -21s as possible.. is pozzi in the U21?
his greatest hits
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsFVS2MqaIk
Pozzi/Marzoratti are doubtful to play in this Under-21, but will more than likely participate in the next if they keep up their performances. Hopefully they'll be joined by some of our Primavera who have been impressing in their championship.
zlatanov
24-03-2007, 19:44
lol youl be lucky to see pazzini start with Toni- Mutu scoring buckets :P
true, Pazzini is more of a bench player at Fiorentina and, apart from periods when toni or Mutu are injured/suspended, could be seen getting more playing time in Coppa Italian games.
I am not entirely sure but I think that Montolivo isn't a sure starter as well ... at least that was the case at the beginning of the season ... lately he seems to have become more or less regular in the first team.
Maybe they(Montolivo in particular) wouldn't mind a switch to another club :D. I'm particularly interested in the playmaker because we need a player of his style to relieve Pirlo from time to time.
Isn't that supposed to be Gattuso's job? I mean if I have a DM the Cm would and should naturally be the DM's reliever from time to time, that also applies on Brocchi from time to time depending on which position he is in
zlatanov
25-03-2007, 08:47
Isn't that supposed to be Gattuso's job? I mean if I have a DM the Cm would and should naturally be the DM's reliever from time to time, that also applies on Brocchi from time to time depending on which position he is in
we need a creative player to sub Pirlo ... that's why Gattuso is playing in RM - to provide defensive cover for a player like Pirlo. If Gattuso/Ambrosini/Brocchi were to be put in central midfield, we'd need a creative RM/winger to make up for the loss in creativity - the whole formation would change that way which isn't necessarily a bad thing as it would allow for more variaty in our tactics.
zlatanov
25-03-2007, 08:51
Two new names being linked with Milan - Juan and Ze Roberto:
http://www.tgcom.mediaset.it/sport/articoli/articolo354701.shtml
It seems Juan is more like linking himself with Milan - he reportedly said after the game vs Chile that Milan is the team he would like to play in.
As for Ze Roberto, seems like rumours in Brazil are that he has already signed for Milan and will be moving to Italy in the summer.
This would be presumably a free transfer as his contract with Santos was for just 1 year, think, mostly to allow him to recover from that injury/surgery he had last summer after the WC.
Maybe someone living in Brazil could shed more light on this?
i don't mind Ze Roberto, despite his age he still has a fair amount of pace/high workrate in him, plus he's alot more creative than someone like Emerson. A good squad player to have.
I've seen Juan play really well and really badly, i'd rather we looked at someone a bit more consistent.
zlatanov
25-03-2007, 10:25
As far as I know, Juan is non-EU player so I doubt Milan would consider him as there are many, better CDs out there who are EU players at that.
My only problem with Ze - an excellent all-around midfielder, IMO - is that he might be a non-EU player too and that would limit our options on the market ... a bit surprised given that he spent a good 10 years in Germany but still, I dont think he has a EU passport.
is that he might be a non-EU player too and that would limit our options on the market ... a bit surprised given that he spent a good 10 years in Germany but still, I dont think he has a EU passport.
hmmm ... that is surprising
It's very exciting to see a team made of the best Brasilian players but i'm still not sure Milan is doing the right thing by going after Brasilians all the time.
Dida, Serginho, Oliveira, Ronaldo and Kaka will probably stay with Milan next year also ( Cafu leaving).
Ronaldinho's and Ze Roberto's potential transfers, maybe some other Brasilian with EU passport also..... it just doesn't seem natural one of THE representatives of Italian football to be Brasilianized.
Dutch Barcelona and Argie Inter weren't an example that should be followed.
Dida, Kaka, Ronaldo and Ronaldinho is enough imo
Blacktop
25-03-2007, 14:05
It's very exciting to see a team made of the best Brasilian players but i'm still not sure Milan is doing the right thing by going after Brasilians all the time...... it just doesn't seem natural one of THE representatives of Italian football to be Brasilianized.
I agree. It's getting way out of hand. Do we really need another 30+-year-old defender (Ze Roberto)? If we're idiotic enough to go through with all this, then we have no right to criticize Inter for being devoid of Italians from now on.
B&G have the wool over their eyes as usual. Did they not see Brazil's performance (or lack thereof) in the WC last summer?
King tiger
25-03-2007, 14:08
He s a midfielder...
I agree. It's getting way out of hand. Do we really need another 30+-year-old defender (Ze Roberto)? If we're idiotic enough to go through with all this, then we have no right to criticize Inter for being devoid of Italians from now on.
B&G have the wool over their eyes as usual. Did they not see Brazil's performance (or lack thereof) in the WC last summer?
I agree also. According to Tony, why go shopping in Porto Alegre when you can go shopping in your own backyard in Vicenza?
Ze Roberto is a non-EU. At least that's what footballdatabase.com says. Although he will be a free transfer which means we won't be getting him from outside of Italy. So I don't know how that works. We are only allowed one non-EU from outside of Italy, but since he won't be owned by anyone after June is that still concidered from outside of Italy??? In any case, he would be a great squad player but I doubt Milan would waste the non-EU spot on him. Plus, I am not really in favor of this because of what was mentioned already.......TOO MANY Brazilians linked to us. I would rather get an Italian or better yet make Gourcuff a starter.
Alot can happen during the summer transfer window. None of Cafu, Serginho, Oliveira and to an extent Dida are certain to be with us next season. So we could easily lose one or two Brazilians before replacing them. No need to start with the "We should only buy Italians" chants just yet!
Juan is linked with Milan. Juan claimed that Milan is the best and would love to join. Juan is a solid center back in my opinion and can be a great replacement for Paolo Maldini. Juan has just turned 28.
The players that Lippi wants for next season
Buffon, Zambrotta, Cannavaro
Malouda
Toni, Iaquinta
It looks more like a solid list of players but instead of Toni and Iaquinta
Pato would be better
Don't want Juan, Cannavaro, Ze Roberto or Iaquinta wearing our jersey next season. Pato, Malouda, Buffon, Zambrotta & Toni would be great. Janku needs to go along with Inzaghi & Seedorf. Janku was horrible against Germany. Lost the ball about 10 times on the attack, very poor technique IMO. Zambrotta for LB, Oddo on RB, Nesta & KK in centre, with Bonera, Maldini, Marzoratti, Darmian, etc providing cover. No more ancient players Milan.
Warro Bantan
26-03-2007, 12:40
Juan is linked with Milan. Juan claimed that Milan is the best and would love to join. Juan is a solid center back in my opinion and can be a great replacement for Paolo Maldini. Juan has just turned 28. Wouldnt mind us getting him at all...seems good in the air, has an eye for goal scoring opportunities, and good with the ball on his feet...whats not to like?
He also shouldnt be too expensive either...
GilAttack [11]
26-03-2007, 14:00
Wouldnt mind us getting him at all...seems good in the air, has an eye for goal scoring opportunities, and good with the ball on his feet...whats not to like?
He also shouldnt be too expensive either...
Funny he is a defender and you make him sound like a midfielder....
there is no such thing as a brazilian defender :uhm:
Dr Milano
26-03-2007, 15:33
Juan - okay if they do sign him they better get ready to sell some
cause the milan squad's way too large too many players
Now REAL are eyeing Juan..:/
One more for the aged section of our squad ... Cruz! Yes i said Cruz! He of Inter striking fame, the forward who finds himself on the bench is being linked with us :doh:
Meanwhile Inter are linked with Pepe & Quaresma for just £11 million because of some way of buying out their contracts or something along those lines. Further still Suazo speaks about how good he and Ibrahimovich would make as a striking partnership. This kind of ratio is not good ... Inter = 3 quality players for a low amount .... Us = Cruz :rollani:
I really really hope we don't settle for spending a king's ransom on Ronaldinho and get old freebies to fill in the gaps. That wouldn't get us anywhere.
zlatanov
27-03-2007, 15:02
a club being "linked" to a player is very dif from that club being indeed "interested" in that player let alone that club ending up "getting" the player in question.
let's not assume that rumours represent actual interest by a club in a certain player and even worse - actual "deals" - and start with the :rolleyes: just because some website decided to look for the common link between "a fact" and "a speculative invention" :)
As for that new "law" or whatever in Portugal that channel 4 mentioned, well, they are just about the only ones who have mentioned it so far, so it may very well be another find in their search of that common link ;)
that's not the point Zlatanov ... clearly we should be linked with every great player around and the other clubs, most notably Inter, should be linked with all the oldies/poor players :grinser:
zlatanov
27-03-2007, 17:01
that's not the point Zlatanov ... clearly we should be linked with every great player around and the other clubs, most notably Inter, should be linked with all the oldies/poor players :grinser:
hey, Mr. Jim from the UK :), get your facts straight, will ya - Inter ARE a great club ... after all, they managed a double last year and well on their way of repeting that feat this year too :rolleyes: ... :5nana: :grinser:
It looks more like a solid list of players but instead of Toni and Iaquinta
Pato would be better[/QUOTE]
Pato said in the press that he likes Seri A but he will play in England because he likes to continue dribbling and that is not possible to be done by playing in Italy. So MU or Chelsea will buy him.
Pato wouldn't be able to play in England due to the work permit restrictions on not playing half of his countries matches in the last 2 years. His favourite player is Ronaldo, and along with Kaka et all in Milan I think he'll find his way to us. How many players do you see dribbling in England though?? Not many I tell you.
It's what Pato said, not my opinion :)
zlatanov
28-03-2007, 20:03
where did he say that? Any links with quotes, maybe?
the thing is that with so many rumours and made up stories floating around we could hardly be sure whether Pato, or anyone else in that matter, really said the words attributed to him by some tabloid or fishy website.
^^^ It's really sad that we once used to sort out rubbish from truth by the presence of quotes and now..those sites even forge quotes from the players.
lol, luca toni is great, but bayern management are out of their mind. they offered 35mil BP to fiorentina ! (channel4)
zlatanov
30-03-2007, 09:48
it's the channel 4 journalist, who is out of his mind - just reshuffling sums that were mentioned a month ago when Juve was linked with tony (and that sum of 35 mil BP includes wage estimates too).
Elsewhere they mention the transfer could happen for around 20 mil euros, which is a realistic price given that the guy is 30 yo already.
Bayern are one of the richest clubs around but they have never splashed such money with an easy hand ... actually, even a 20 mil transfer is uncharacteristic for them.
They spent a fortune on Makaay. And by fortune i mean 16m eur ( 10.5 m BP) which is 3 times less than the crazy sum mentioned in this article from channel4.
Bayern never payed more than 16m Eur and i don't see them paying more for Toni.
Like Zlat says, not only 20m is uncharacteristic for them but it's something that never happened !
zlatanov
30-03-2007, 10:22
http://www.tgcom.mediaset.it/sport/articoli/articolo355538.shtml
Milan seems to have "blocked" Barusso from Rimini as the two clubs have allegedly agreed on a transfer worth 4.8 mil euros for the 22 yo player from Ghana.
So far, this "roumour" has appeared on Tgcom only so ... take it with as much salt as you wish :D
Zlat, i think i got it right, but i'd appreciate it if you confirm this :
1. If Milan buys a non-EU player from Rimini, then the non-EU spot is still opened ?
2. If Milan buys non-EU player from Anderlecht, then no more non-EU players can be bought at all ?
3. If Milan buys non-EU player from Anderlecht, then no more non-EU players can be bought outside Italy but Milan can still buy non-EU player from some other Italian club ?
4. Milan can buy 194324 non-EU players in one year but only one can be bought from non-Italian club while the others must be from an Italian club ?
The answers are Yes- wrong- Yes- Yes ?
Thanx
zlatanov
30-03-2007, 10:41
Y - W - Y - Y :D
Dr Milano
30-03-2007, 13:14
Y - W - Y - Y :D
are you trying to do the
Y-M-C-A or something lmao :devf: :p017:
are you trying to do the
Y-M-C-A or something lmao :devf: :p017:
:grinser: :grinser: :grinser:
It's fun to stay at the Y-W_Y-Y :grinser: .
are you trying to do the
Y-M-C-A or something lmao :devf: :p017:
:grinser:
You got him now ! He's one of the Village People. He was trying to hide that from us.
So, which one of them are you Zlat ? The Indian ?
where did he say that? Any links with quotes, maybe?
the thing is that with so many rumours and made up stories floating around we could hardly be sure whether Pato, or anyone else in that matter, really said the words attributed to him by some tabloid or fishy website.
I read it in a Greek sight, the news were taken from a Brazilian newspaper where Pato gave an interview just why i cannot provide you with a link, sorry...
This will make our life easier translate anything you want to your language. We use it in Greek mass media to translate some foreign articles. We are team here just why i provide you : http://www.altavista.com/
I use www.freetranslation.com ..pretty much the best free translation site I've ever come across.
My tranfer list: 1 GK, 1 CB, 1 RB, 1 LB, one or two CB, about 2 midfielder's and two attacker's.
My list not only for Milan: Snejder, Van De Vaart, Saviola.
TWO forwards? That means you want to sell about 3 of our current forwards. Who would those be ?
My tranfer list: 1 GK, 1 CB, 1 RB, 1 LB, one or two CB, about 2 midfielder's and two attacker's.
I see that CB is such an important position for you, you included it twice :grinser:
Dr Milano
30-03-2007, 18:05
:grinser:
You got him now ! He's one of the Village People. He was trying to hide that from us.
So, which one of them are you Zlat ? The Indian ?
looooooooool lmao rofl ..... :respect: respect mate ... lmao
when he signs on again .... :zany: i think im gnna get a handful of sh*t :5ok: lol
I think Zlat would be the construction worker ... "yeah i'll just put the sockets in for your telephone" ... a handy way of putting in those bugging devices so he can listen in on people's conversations ... that's how he's always one step ahead of the game :d33: :delol:
zlatanov
30-03-2007, 20:11
I think Zlat would be the construction worker ... "yeah i'll just put the sockets in for your telephone" ... a handy way of putting in those bugging devices so he can listen in on people's conversations ... that's how he's always one step ahead of the game :d33: :delol:
now this guy is indeed THINKING ... it's guys like him that make life dif for guys like me :d55: :grinser:
But to answer your question, Tony, I am not in that picture 'cause I was busy installing bugs in the other room ... that "constr. worker" is just there to cover for me .... decoys, you know :D
joumasepoes
31-03-2007, 01:48
[QUOTE=Giorgos]My tranfer list: 1 GK, 1 CB, 1 RB, 1 LB, one or two CB, about 2 midfielder's and two attacker's.[QUOTE]
So Ronny it is then. He is going to be used in all those position
I am not in that picture 'cause I was busy installing bugs in the other room ... that "constr. worker" is just there to cover for me .... decoys, you know :D
I knew it! Another case solved by Jim Holmes, Sherlock's long lost ancestor :grinser:
Milan don´t need more forwards, already have many with very good quality, the italian team just need a good manager that knows how to work with them and make them play their best
Adriano isn´t a honour player, he don´t have any respect with their mates, he proved it in Brasil's team and Internazionale
Adriano and Internazionale were born for each other, the crap and the sanitary, soulmates
If Milan would buy a forward, Pato and Huntelaar would be very good names but i don´t think they are that necessary
Dr Milano
31-03-2007, 10:12
Milan don´t need more forwards, already have many with very good quality, the italian team just need a good manager that knows how to work with them and make them play their best
Adriano isn´t a honour player, he don´t have any respect with their mates, he proved it in Brasil's team and Internazionale
Adriano and Internazionale were born for each other, the crap and the sanitary, soulmates
If Milan would buy a forward, Pato and Huntelaar would be very good names but i don´t think they are that necessary
100% With you there .... samuca .... but but i think huntelaar ... would be a great signing he has some clinical finishing .... :5ok:
My list Srna, Snejder, Corluka, Amelia
hitmannq8
01-04-2007, 21:40
I would rather gamble on Quagliarella than Torres or Hunetelaar. Man Quagliarella has it all..he's playin even better than how Gila did at Parma.. His goals are almost ALL stunning!! Take a look at his goal earlier today against Chievo.. OMG!
joumasepoes
02-04-2007, 00:40
Torres and Huntelaar is not a gamble.
Graeme C
02-04-2007, 04:31
I would rather gamble on Quagliarella than Torres or Hunetelaar. Man Quagliarella has it all..he's playin even better than how Gila did at Parma.. His goals are almost ALL stunning!! Take a look at his goal earlier today against Chievo.. OMG!
yeah that goal is brilliant! hes the player we needed instead of Oliveira.. Someone who is excellent at shooting.. Way hes playing i would love to see him at Milan next season.. Huge advantage is that hes only 24 and italian! :5ok:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lhaIq9W_cI
a best of
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR3f-LN-Jbk
zlatanov
02-04-2007, 07:09
OK, some rumors for food:
http://www.calciomercato.com/index.php?c=25&a=38710
it says that Milan is after Lucs Pezzini, quoted source is Corriere dello Sport.
Happy now, Jim? :D
Dr Milano
02-04-2007, 08:30
why dont milan just go for .... morten gamst pedersen ... i dont think he ll stay at .. blackburn come end of this season ....
so why dont milan just put a bid in ... hes ace. ... :p017:
LOL, in my language peder means gay, so I wouldn't want some Gaysen in our team :D
Fernando Torres = Bluff, flop
A good acquisition for Milan would be Anderson from Porto, I used to watch him in Grêmio and Brazil sub-17 and he is a complete player
Very fast and very strong with a excelent technique, good pass and excelent shoot
If Milan had a manager that like a tactic with 2 offensive middlefields would be fantastic to watch Kaká and Anderson playing together
But you all only think about offensive players, stop realmadrling, Milan need new deffensive players urgently
Lugano and Barzagli would be good acquisitions
Graeme C
02-04-2007, 09:27
grrr no more Brazilians... :P
But you all only think about offensive players, stop realmadrling, Milan need new deffensive players urgently
Ummm no we don't. Try reading the whole thread and looking at other threads before making nonsense statements like that.
Zlatanov, why would i be happy with Pezzini? Never heard of him.
zlatanov
02-04-2007, 11:34
Zlatanov, why would i be happy with Pezzini? Never heard of him.
you are kidding right? did you forget your endorsement of Lucas Pezzini Leiva - the one from Gremio, Brasileiro told us about - as a player Milan should go for?
well, now they are after him, so I thought you'd be happy ... guess I was wrong, though :( ... :D
it says that Milan is after Lucs Pezzini, quoted source is Corriere dello Sport.
Yeah but look what you put. Who the heck is Lucs when he's at home? :grinser:
I only know Lucas by Lucas, not by the rest of his name. So i had no idea who you were on about. However, now that i do know who you mean, then indeed it is some good news.
Does it give a price? If we could get him and maybe Barusso for as little money as possible, just think of our future midfield :eek:
---------Di Gennaro---------
Gourcuff -- Lucas -- Barusso
Fantastico!
zlatanov
02-04-2007, 11:46
Yeah but look what you put. Who the heck is Lucs when he's at home? :grinser:
I only know Lucas by Lucas, not by the rest of his name. So i had no idea who you were on about. However, now that i do know who you mean, then indeed it is some good news.
Does it give a price? If we could get him and maybe Barusso for as little money as possible, just think of our future midfield :eek:
---------Di Gennaro---------
Gourcuff -- Lucas -- Barusso
Fantastico!
what a lame excuse :rolleyes: ... it wasn't enough that I gave you the good news but you want me to get the player's name right, ha?! :D
here is another article on Lucas to Milan:
http://www.calciomercato.it/dettaglioNewsCategoria.asp?hdnIdCategoria=2&hdnId=7333
it says that Milan are offering 7 mil, while Gremio are hoping for a little more than 10 mil.
As for Barusso, if that article/rumour from tgcom is right, he should be a Milan player very soon for 4.8 mil.
Here it is again:
http://www.tgcom.mediaset.it/sport/articoli/articolo355538.shtml
I think it's a perfectly legitimate excuse :grinser:
What does this headline mean Zlat?
"Milan, il nome nuovo è Barusso - Battuta l'Inter per mediano del Rimini"
Something like "Milan, a new move for Barusso"? But what about the last bit, what has Inter to do with it? Right at the end it seems to suggest we've abandoned a move for Diarra for Barusso (the new Desailly). If true, it signifies alot of faith in this guy's talent.
Again, if those prices are correct (assuming we get Lucas for 7 million and not the 10 their looking for), we could end up with two fantastic future talents for £8 million! That to me is pretty fantastic, especially when you look at how much guys like Robinho, Gago, Higuain & Marcelo have gone for in the past.
Barusso is also over 6 foot tall, which is excellent. It would give plenty of height and power to our midfield!
zlatanov
02-04-2007, 12:25
I think it's a perfectly legitimate excuse :grinser:
What does this headline mean Zlat?
"Milan, il nome nuovo è Barusso - Battuta l'Inter per mediano del Rimini"
Something like "Milan, a new move for Barusso"? But what about the last bit, what has Inter to do with it? Right at the end it seems to suggest we've abandoned a move for Diarra for Barusso (the new Desailly). If true, it signifies alot of faith in this guy's talent.
Again, if those prices are correct (assuming we get Lucas for 7 million and not the 10 their looking for), we could end up with two fantastic future talents for £8 million! That to me is pretty fantastic, especially when you look at how much guys like Robinho, Gago, Higuain & Marcelo have gone for in the past.
Barusso is also over 6 foot tall, which is excellent. It would give plenty of height and power to our midfield!
that headline means: "Milan, the new name is Barusso (meaning the newest milan player for the future) - Inter is beaten/overcome to signing the Rimini midfielder".
The thing is that Inter were also linked with Barusso but it says that Milan had accelerated things and pushed for his signature by basically blocking the player ... and since he is similar to Diarra both physically and game-wise, getting Barusso would mean that we are off Diarra's tracks.
if these sums are correct, it would indeed be a good deal for talented players like those, I guess.
if these sums are correct, it would indeed be a good deal for talented players like those, I guess.
You guess? Of course it's a good deal :grinser:
zlatanov
02-04-2007, 12:51
You guess? Of course it's a good deal :grinser:
no, what I mean is that when you buy such promising players you never know if they will develop that talent and promise into a final product and establish themselves.
If we assume that Lucas and Barusso will definitely become what Milan would expect of them - the new stars of football - then by all means it's a great deal, but they could also remain just promising players and never live up to the expectations, like so many others, ... then getting them wouldn't be a great deal but a decent deal in which, while we didn't get what we hoped for, at least we didn't lose large lumps of cash ... in other words, paying so "little" for such players is a gamble worth taking, IMO, whether it would be a great deal, however, I will be able to tell you in 2,3,4 years from now. :)
Given that neither will take a non-eu spot, i think it makes any deal pretty good.
I'm sure you/Brasiliero told me Lucas has an Italian passport and as Barusso would be a transfer between 2 Italian clubs, we'll still have an opportunity to get someone for that non-eu place.
zlatanov
02-04-2007, 13:06
yeah, Lucas has an Italian passport.
And this is a major factor in going for such young and unproven players as Milan would hardly wanna "waste" the one single non-EU spot they have on getting someone who isn't a "sure thing" just yet.
I hope we "spend" that spot on someone like Alex or Lucho or who knows maybe even robinho given that even if come summer season Silvio is still salivating over Dinho, the Barca star would/should have his EU passport by then.
joumasepoes
02-04-2007, 13:10
Whatever is said our squad needs some serious pimping
David Villa someone that can live in shevchenkos shadow)
Ronaldinho
Dani alves
Mr Leiva
Good midfielder from italy
Quagliera
Goodbye to:
Gilardino/Oliveria
Inzaghi
All our old backline players
No disrespect to these players but they have done their service and should hang over their reigns or they are good players but should rather go somewhere else
Graeme C
02-04-2007, 14:12
Whatever is said our squad needs some serious pimping
David Villa someone that can live in shevchenkos shadow)
Ronaldinho
Dani alves
Mr Leiva
Good midfielder from italy
Quagliera
Goodbye to:
Gilardino/Oliveria
Inzaghi
All our old backline players
No disrespect to these players but they have done their service and should hang over their reigns or they are good players but should rather go somewhere else
In:
Buffon-G
Abbiati-G (return from Loan)
Alves-RB
Zambrotta-LB/RB
Maresca- LM
Barusso- DFM
Montolivo-M/playmaker (exchange Ambro /Cash) back up for pirlo
Rosina -am
Quagliarella- F
Huntelaar- F
Ciao:
Dida G
Fiori G
kalac/Storari G
Oliviera F
Inzaghi F
Borriello F
Favalli D
Billy D
Cafu D
Kaladze D
ambrosini/brocchi M
Loan out:
Grimi, maybe keep pozzi at Empoli.. just depends on how many he scores.
Not sure about:
Seedorf..
hishamilan
02-04-2007, 16:37
In:
Not sure about:
Seedorf..
what'up with you man he is just standing in front of the door waiting for u to kick him out :diablo:
pozzi is great backup for next year also rosina and marzoratti huntelaar+alex+dudu+alves will be our fantasy signings next summer :p017:
hishamilan
02-04-2007, 16:40
By the way i found out that there was a bust out between lucho gonzalez and his coach before the benfica derby game and i think that guy would be great if he leaves to us next season
Warro Bantan
02-04-2007, 16:40
Graeme: And after changing the entire team (basically)...what would u hope to win? One summer is insufficient for a completely new team (based on ur "in"-coming players) to gel sufficiently to make an immediate impact...this isnt FM or FIFA 07 u know.
If we were to make the wholesale changes u want, we would be next year, where we are now in Serie A, fighting for a top 4 place...only there wont be a penalty deduction for the likes of Fiorentina, so we would probably be worse off...
Or converserly, are u saying that all these players would be happy with a few Coppa Italia games? They cant all start, and they are certainly not all starting material.
grrr no more Brazilians... :P
Brazilians rules! :respect:
Ummm no we don't. Try reading the whole thread and looking at other threads before making nonsense statements like that.
Zlatanov, why would i be happy with Pezzini? Never heard of him.
Chill dude, I just said it because there were too many people talking about forwards
yeah, Lucas has an Italian passport.
And this is a major factor in going for such young and unproven players as Milan would hardly wanna "waste" the one single non-EU spot they have on getting someone who isn't a "sure thing" just yet.
I hope we "spend" that spot on someone like Alex or Lucho or who knows maybe even robinho given that even if come summer season Silvio is still salivating over Dinho, the Barca star would/should have his EU passport by then.
Lucho isn´t that good and he even hide himself on important games, Mineiro and Josué maked he gets lost on Libertadores 2005 on the game between São Paulo and River Plate
Robinho doesn´t have level to play in Milan, he doesn´t have a good shoot and is too weaky to play in Calcio
Lucas would be a very good acquisition for Milan, the italian team is needing a player like he, he knows how to deffend and attack on a great level and can play in all positions of middlefield but offensive middlefield
hitmannq8
02-04-2007, 19:13
Barusso I dont know, obviously I prefer Diarra cuz i've seen him play and is more proven, but I wouldn't go for him only unless we get him for less than 7.5m. Diarra is really something.
We dont need Lucas, we have Pirlo, Ambrosini, and most probably Barusso. We need an attacking midfielder, we never really replaced Rui Costa. Anderson is something we must keep an eye on. Pato is also something special, I think it would be a good idea to buy him now and maybe keep him in Brazil for one more season.
For next year I'd like us to go for Tevez, to take Oliveira's spot, and Anderson for an attacking midfielder. Defence we will have to buy alot, seeing as Cafu, Billy are sure to retire, and Maldini, Favalli, Serginho aren't sure of their futures. My wish is Dani Alves, Zambrotta, and Alex. I also am 90% certain that Milan will not sign Ronaldinho this summer. He will stay at Barca.
I see that CB is such an important position for you, you included it twice :grinser:
Obviously one next to Nesta :). :5ok:
TWO forwards? That means you want to sell about 3 of our current forwards. Who would those be ?
Come on Inzaghi is in his last, Oliveira is not vey competent so...
We will not have to play with one attacker as Achelotti now does in CL.
Inter has, Zlatan,Adiano, Cruz, Crespo, Recoba.
In the past we had, Sheva, Inzaghi, Crespo, Tomasson and others (not all in the same season).
So Ronaldo, Gila a third who could play in the place of them or to come as a goos substitude and a fourth maybe a talent one to take his time. My ideal would be 5 but at least to have 4, remeber: Injuries, banned, out of shape.
Remember me Martins is in loan to Newcastle?.
We need an attacking midfielder, we never really replaced Rui Costa. Anderson is something we must keep an eye on.
Snejder
Defence we will have to buy alot, seeing as Cafu, Billy are sure to retire, and Maldini, Favalli, Serginho aren't sure of their futures. My wish is Dani Alves, Zambrotta, and Alex.
Alves, Barzagli, Torosidis, Alex (but he will play for Chelsea).
I also am 90% certain that Milan will not sign Ronaldinho this summer. He will stay at Barca.[/QUOTE]
I wish also otherwise we will sale only t-shirts. :respect: :respect: :respect:
I don't want to open a new thread so... which player from Sevilla would you like to see in our team (except Dani Alves who want him) : Jesus Navas, Maresca, Louis Fabiano, Chevanton, Kanoute, Kerzakoff, Renato, Adriano or David (LB).
i responded to four straight questions and the Avatar of PAOK Thessaloniki looks very nice.
joumasepoes
03-04-2007, 02:56
Graeme: And after changing the entire team (basically)...what would u hope to win? One summer is insufficient for a completely new team (based on ur "in"-coming players) to gel sufficiently to make an immediate impact...this isnt FM or FIFA 07 u know.
If we were to make the wholesale changes u want, we would be next year, where we are now in Serie A, fighting for a top 4 place...only there wont be a penalty deduction for the likes of Fiorentina, so we would probably be worse off...
Or converserly, are u saying that all these players would be happy with a few Coppa Italia games? They cant all start, and they are certainly not all starting material.
I'd rather build a young squad for the future then have our current crop of players. It can also be argued that Inter made wholesale changes and they have found a certain degree of success in Serie A, but not Europe though. U feeling me on that one dawg?
Graeme C
03-04-2007, 03:42
Graeme: And after changing the entire team (basically)...what would u hope to win? One summer is insufficient for a completely new team (based on ur "in"-coming players) to gel sufficiently to make an immediate impact...this isnt FM or FIFA 07 u know.
If we were to make the wholesale changes u want, we would be next year, where we are now in Serie A, fighting for a top 4 place...only there wont be a penalty deduction for the likes of Fiorentina, so we would probably be worse off...
Or converserly, are u saying that all these players would be happy with a few Coppa Italia games? They cant all start, and they are certainly not all starting material.
I dont think its too un- realitic, if you consider that we are going to be losing arround 5/6 players this summer. Change is good, and one thing we havent done this year compared to other years is rotate the squad. Ok we might not need all the players, but i really think we need to improve our options for next year.. we need some silverware.. beat Inter..
Graeme C
03-04-2007, 03:55
We dont need Lucas, we have Pirlo, Ambrosini, and most probably Barusso. We need an attacking midfielder, we never really replaced Rui Costa. Anderson is something we must keep an eye on. Pato is also something special, I think it would be a good idea to buy him now and maybe keep him in Brazil for one more season.
For next year I'd like us to go for Tevez, to take Oliveira's spot, and Anderson for an attacking midfielder. Defence we will have to buy alot, seeing as Cafu, Billy are sure to retire, and Maldini, Favalli, Serginho aren't sure of their futures. My wish is Dani Alves, Zambrotta, and Alex. I also am 90% certain that Milan will not sign Ronaldinho this summer. He will stay at Barca.
Milan could get pezzini and loan him out to Empoli. That way we get to see what hes like, and well Empoli arent a bad team.
For attacking midfield i would like Rosina.. Ive heard that Milan are trying to deal to get him in 2009 because thats when hes contract runs out. but i agree, we havent placed Rui.. We do have Di Gennaro..
I think most of us would see Diarra as the better player when compared to Barusso hitman, but when you look at the plus points for buying Barusso you can see he's the better option.
He's younger, he's apparently more technical/offensive than Diarra, he's almost as imposing (he's over 6 foot tall), he won't take up a non-eu spot, he'll be available for a fraction of the cost (possibly 1/5 of the price of Diarra) and we won't have to deal with Madrid to get him.
For me he's the better choice right now. I also think if we have the opportunity to get Lucas in the summer then it would be wise to get him, though no doubt we would loan him out straight away to let him settle in Italy. Our defensive midfielders won't last forever, getting Lucas will be a good future investment for our midfield.
You're right though that we do need another 1 or 2 offensive midfielders, be they Ronaldinho, Mancini, Rosina, Quaresma, Ribery, Robinho, Deco, Rosicky, Anderson, Gonzalez or whoever each of us would individually prefer.
When you guys evaluate young or 'unknownn' players, have you watched their games before? I mean not only their action from matches highlight or only from 1-2 'blow up' games.
Barusso I dont know, obviously I prefer Diarra cuz i've seen him play and is more proven, but I wouldn't go for him only unless we get him for less than 7.5m. Diarra is really something.
We dont need Lucas, we have Pirlo, Ambrosini, and most probably Barusso. We need an attacking midfielder, we never really replaced Rui Costa. Anderson is something we must keep an eye on. Pato is also something special, I think it would be a good idea to buy him now and maybe keep him in Brazil for one more season.
For next year I'd like us to go for Tevez, to take Oliveira's spot, and Anderson for an attacking midfielder. Defence we will have to buy alot, seeing as Cafu, Billy are sure to retire, and Maldini, Favalli, Serginho aren't sure of their futures. My wish is Dani Alves, Zambrotta, and Alex. I also am 90% certain that Milan will not sign Ronaldinho this summer. He will stay at Barca.
Ambrosini is a great deffender but don´t have a good technique to attack and Pirlo is the oposite, Lucas know how to deffend and how to attack on a very good level, he must be more used to do a rotate with Seedorf and Pirlo, even because those 2 players aren´t made from iron and don´t have a good player to substitute them since Rui Costa (improvised) were gone
Milan can´t lose the opportunity to buy a complete middlefield like Lucas
For the attack middlefield, Anderson is the best option, the mixture of technique, agility and strenght that he have shall be great to play in Milan and also Calcio
About forwards my opinion don´t change, Milan also have great players that just aren´t playing their best because Ancelotti don´t know how to work with them and if a player should be bought this player is Huntelaar
Tevez is the kind of player to play in Internazionale, he ruined the team spirit, don´t play so good like marketing says and isn´t a ethical player
I don't want to open a new thread so... which player from Sevilla would you like to see in our team (except Dani Alves who want him) : Jesus Navas, Maresca, Louis Fabiano, Chevanton, Kanoute, Kerzakoff, Renato, Adriano or David (LB).
i responded to four straight questions and the Avatar of PAOK Thessaloniki looks very nice.
I don´t think Milan need those players but Daniel Alves
When Luis Fabiano enter on the game tranquility and motivated, he is one of the better forwards of the world but he have a huge problem with him psicologyc side
The only team that he kept a good motivation by a long time were São Paulo and there were when he proved that he is a excelent player but when problems started to happen he just stoped to play him best and that´s what he do till currenctly days, even he had some little problems he stop to play good
Unless Milan would have a great manager and a great psicology deppartament, would be not a great idea to buy Luis Fabiano
Brasileiro
03-04-2007, 12:49
If Milan purchase Lucas, would be a huge HUGE mistake to loan the guy!!!
As I said in the past w/ Alex, mark my words!! Lucas will be a starter in Milan in the first year. European coaches loves this type of MID...the complete package. And Lucas also has much goal for a DM...and with 10MIL dollars we can buy this kid...a BIG steal!!
I´m also tired of this "no more brazilians" mantra :rolleyes: Next year, Milan only will have Kaká, Ronaldo and Dida, and guys talks here if the majority of the squad are compost by brazilians. I agree that our base needs to be italian, no doubt. But only if the guys are Milan material or role players(IMO is stupid to waste a EU spot in a role player). I respect every opinion, but I don´t want a so-so squad just because the players are italian.
This fact made me to remember 4 years ago...I was bashed hard in MM when Milan showed interest in a young Santos defender, and I was here saying that this guy would be a WC defender... I had several "fights" with some MM members because people just throw this "mantras" as: "Brazilian defender?? Nooo", " the new Roque Junior", "it´s better to purchase Legrotile(sp?), Ferrari, P. Canavarro, Bonera because they are Italian" as if just to be born in Italy, makes a defender the new Baresi, Maldini or Nesta, or to born in Brazil make the FW or OM the new Romario, Kaka, Ronaldo or Ronaldinho...
BTW, right now, this young defender is regarded by many, and by a Italian(the land of the great defenders) coach(Carlo) as the best in the world.
One more thing, our #4 striker needs to be a Italian youngster, or skiled veteran(like Micoli). Oliveira is a good player, but isn´t a guy with talent to waste a EU spot in a team like Milan(To be fair, Oliveira was a urgent choice).
AC Milan needs great players, and a summer of Zambrota(the old one, not that scrub that play for Braça), Alex, Lucas, Alves and a italian GOOD second striker would be my dream...with Pato in january :5ok:
BTW...zlatanov(or other member), in this situation, with Alves and Lucas as EU players, only Alex would be a no EU player like in Spain??? Or for being Brazilians, in Italia Lucas and Alves would occupy a vacant for foreigner??
Thanks.
zlatanov
03-04-2007, 13:05
BTW...zlatanov(or other member), in this situation, with Alves and Lucas as EU players, only Alex would be a no EU player like in Spain??? Or for being Brazilians, in Italia Lucas and Alves would occupy a vacant for foreigner??
Thanks.
If I correctly understand your question - yeah, Milan can buy Lucas and Alves without losing that precious non-EU player spot - for someone like Alex, for instance.
If we buy Alex, however, we can't get any other non-EU players from outside of Italy (doesn't matter whether he plays in another European country like Spain, England, Portugal or whatever) ... we can still get someone like Barusso though - a non-EU player (Ghana) who however plays for a team in Italy (Rimini).
EDIT:
Also, if in the summer we get Alex or another non-EU player from outside Italy, we WON'T be able to get Pato (a non-EU player) in January but will have to wait till the next summer (summer of 2008)
Brasileiro
03-04-2007, 13:16
If I correctly understand your question - yeah, Milan can buy Lucas and Alves without losing that precious non-EU player spot - for someone like Alex, for instance.
If we buy Alex, however, we can't get any other non-EU players from outside of Italy (doesn't matter whether he plays in another European country like Spain, England, Portugal or whatever) ... we can still get someone like Barusso though - a non-EU player (Ghana) who however plays for a team in Italy (Rimini).
It was accurately this that I asked, zlatanov. Thanks :5ok:
And also, thanks for this Barusso case. I really I did not know this exception...
Now I have my Milan fantasy team...
Why will we have to wait until next summer to purchase another non-eu player? I thought you were allowed to purchase one per transfer window?
Talk about shooting yourself in the foot if you can only buy 1 non-eu player from outside of Italy per season!
zlatanov
03-04-2007, 13:53
Why will we have to wait until next summer to purchase another non-eu player? I thought you were allowed to purchase one per transfer window?
Talk about shooting yourself in the foot if you can only buy 1 non-eu player from outside of Italy per season!
I am pretty sure it is 1 non-EU player per season/year, not transfer window.
That's exactly why Galliani said that if the rules aren't changed soon, Italian teams would find themselves overwhelmed by other European sides as the current transfer rules in Italy don't allow for much flexibility on the international transfer market.
Brasileiro
03-04-2007, 14:24
I am pretty sure it is 1 non-EU player per season/year, not transfer window.
That's exactly why Galliani said that if the rules aren't changed soon, Italian teams would find themselves overwhelmed by other European sides as the current transfer rules in Italy don't allow for much flexibility on the international transfer market.
I remember this Galliani quote...IMO this rules needs to be changed, and fast!!
joumasepoes
04-04-2007, 01:04
How did Inter manage to grab Maicon and Maxwell then if they both havent played in Europe long enough to have their EU's?
zlatanov
04-04-2007, 07:01
How did Inter manage to grab Maicon and Maxwell then if they both havent played in Europe long enough to have their EU's?
maxwell did not come to Inter from Ajax ... I think his contract with Ajax expired or was expiring and they, Inter, got him and send him to Empoli.
The rules forbid clubs to register/play two non-EU players in one season but not to buy them and loan them out to other Italian teams ... That's one way around the rules, so to speak.
hishamilan
04-04-2007, 09:09
dida is a small child just a little more charisma think about crapy dida + oddo + inzaghi
i think as well as ( lucas or barusso ) we must think about ( boruc + alves + huntelaar )(faccin + marzoratti + pozzi ) are subs
Blacktop
04-04-2007, 13:06
dida is a small child just a little more charisma think about crapy dida + oddo + inzaghi
There's understandably angry posts in regards to yesterday's result. Then there's just outright stupid ones like above.
hishamilan
04-04-2007, 17:16
i think you are not even man enough to give reasons for such irreasonable insult but i can only say thank you
Warro Bantan
04-04-2007, 17:33
Ok BMWTaylor, I think that your post above was a little uncalled for, and while u prob feel that way, making such a statement questions the intelligence of the poster, something that I am not sure anyone here should be doing....its too close to a personal attack.
I understand your feelings, since you are a Dida fan, and he has come up for some criticism in the last couple of games, but I think you are reacting a little over the top there.
Please temper your posts. Thanks.
Can't blame too much on DIda; both are good shots (probably more responsible for the 1st then second).
The whole team gotta think about why they are just so lame in terms of guiding setpiece, TWICE in a row: come from the left side (almost always wide open with Janku in defense), far post, then score. LAME.
Arildonardo
04-04-2007, 18:40
I think I've seen som people in here who want Mexes from Roma. I saw Roma-Manchester United earlier tonight, and I must say: damn he is slow! He had no chance against Rooney's pace time after time... Hmmm...
ACMILAN1983
05-04-2007, 03:46
Can't blame too much on DIda; both are good shots (probably more responsible for the 1st then second).
The whole team gotta think about why they are just so lame in terms of guiding setpiece, TWICE in a row: come from the left side (almost always wide open with Janku in defense), far post, then score. LAME.
Though we aren't brilliant at defending set pieces, we have to remember that we had to defend quite a lot from Bayern on Tuesday.
I don't think it's how we defend set pieces that's a huge issue anymore (at least compared to the past), but simply how many we're giving away.
Milan crisis: Berlusconi loses faith in Dida
That's Gazzetta dello Sport said according to channel4.
If that news is true, we will Buffon next season!! Or at least we will buy a great goalie. :D
hishamilan
05-04-2007, 05:33
Milan crisis: Berlusconi loses faith in Dida
That's Gazzetta dello Sport said according to channel4.
If that news is true, we will Buffon next season!! Or at least we will buy a great goalie. :D
i think that it wasn't much of a smart move to say that "berlusconi" because dida -i think- :grinser: will be the one to defend our post next round
hishamilan
05-04-2007, 05:34
Gazzetta dello Sport also mentioned that barusso is heading to inter -hope no-
i think that it wasn't much of a smart move to say that "berlusconi" because dida -i think- :grinser: will be the one to defend our post next round
Well maybe it could motivate Dida. Who knows! or maybe ancelotti will put Kalac, who knows. :D
Gazzetta dello Sport also mentioned that barusso is heading to inter -hope no-
If Milan is interested in Barusso, I think he will go to Milan. Milan have good relationship with Rimini.
hishamilan
05-04-2007, 06:04
i saw a video for lucas during his deput in 2007 South American Youth Championship he is a bit showy and fragile although perfect moves and efforts
hishamilan
05-04-2007, 06:07
i think compared to 4 years italian football experienced barusso who is more powerful and versatile galliani was right to call for a $2 dollar bid for the rimini ghanian "Wikkipedia"
Šimić gave an interwiew and said he is 100% leaving Milan as he works hard and Ancelotti always benches him in the big matches. Against Bayern he was supposed to be on the stands but he went home instead.... Im dissapointed to hear this as Dario has been a great backup and a great professional!
He's said this kind of thing a couple of times before, so i think in terms of professionalism he needs to keep his mouth closed. Sure say those things, but only after you've left the club.
He's found it hard since we brought in Cafu as his RB starting position from then on was taken and he was no longer first choice. Despite his words and his frustrations, i'll still remember him as one of the main reasons we won the CL in 2003, he was awesome at RB in that season.
Thanks for everything Dario, but i think it's best for everyone if you and the club move on.
Stop blaming only Dida, the Greek sportcaster that was in San Siro said that in last minutes Paolo and Nesta were so tires that he couldn't even jump in last minutes. Surelly Dida has his responsibility but it isn't only his blame. By sure we need a golie and a CB for next season. What about Wiise isn't he a good young Goalkeeper?.
Graeme C
06-04-2007, 04:02
He's said this kind of thing a couple of times before, so i think in terms of professionalism he needs to keep his mouth closed. Sure say those things, but only after you've left the club.
He's found it hard since we brought in Cafu as his RB starting position from then on was taken and he was no longer first choice. Despite his words and his frustrations, i'll still remember him as one of the main reasons we won the CL in 2003, he was awesome at RB in that season.
Thanks for everything Dario, but i think it's best for everyone if you and the club move on.
that is kind of sad as hes been a good back up, if he does go i hope we use him in a trade.. Maybe we could use to try and get Quagliarella from Sampdoria.. This does mean we will have to go into the market for 2 CBs now..
Roberto Baggio
06-04-2007, 05:58
Look at our squad it's that old and tired I'm fully convinced we need a serious makeover,C'mon that 2nd goal we conceded was a disgrace.Watching three statues and Dida's school boy error sorry but that's simply unacceptable.
How much longer do we have to watch this garbage served by our team? :mad:
Week in week out Gilardino has probably just pushed my patience to the extreme now and I've been a long time supporter of his,Borriello and Pippo have big question marks over them and Ronaldo is a star no doubt,but our attack is really in trouble.
As for our midfield it's been the same predictable set up for years now Ambro is no certainty but our only true threat in the air,Seedorf is far to unreliable,and there's far too much reliance on Kaka and Pirlo.
As for our defence Cafu,Il Capitano,Billy and Favalli are virtually on there last legs leaving a gaping gap at the back in depth also.
As for our keepers as far as I'm concerned Dida can go as can Kalac and Fiori,Stotari I really believe is someone we should hold on to.
And in summation we have to focus on youth or mid twenty year old players and some proven players.Too put all our eggs in the one basket for Ronaldinho would no way be wise,we can look at Pato,Robinho or quaresma for e.g.
ACMILAN1983
06-04-2007, 10:10
Look at our squad it's that old and tired I'm fully convinced we need a serious makeover,C'mon that 2nd goal we conceded was a disgrace.Watching three statues and Dida's school boy error sorry but that's simply unacceptable.
How much longer do we have to watch this garbage served by our team? :mad:
Week in week out Gilardino has probably just pushed my patience to the extreme now and I've been a long time supporter of his,Borriello and Pippo have big question marks over them and Ronaldo is a star no doubt,but our attack is really in trouble.
As for our midfield it's been the same predictable set up for years now Ambro is no certainty but our only true threat in the air,Seedorf is far to unreliable,and there's far too much reliance on Kaka and Pirlo.
As for our defence Cafu,Il Capitano,Billy and Favalli are virtually on there last legs leaving a gaping gap at the back in depth also.
As for our keepers as far as I'm concerned Dida can go as can Kalac and Fiori,Stotari I really believe is someone we should hold on to.
And in summation we have to focus on youth or mid twenty year old players and some proven players.Too put all our eggs in the one basket for Ronaldinho would no way be wise,we can look at Pato,Robinho or quaresma for e.g.
Though I'll admit Maldini is getting old and doesn't have long left, he certainly isn't leaving "gaping gaps" at the back.
Against Bayern for example, for the 2 goals (Bayern's only chances), on the first he had pushed out a little to cover the left side of the box, the cross was way over his head to deal with and it was up to Nesta and Pirlo to handle Van Buyten in the centre. On the second goal Maldini was fouled (by Pizarro I think), and wasn't able to jump to head the ball (even the Pizarro couldn't reach it while climibing on the back of two players, so it's unlikely Maldini would have reached it anyway).
I don't get the criticism he's getting, because the only "poor" performance he can be said to have was against Inter, where he was playing injured and never had any support defensively from Janku (who imo creates a lot of mistakes defensively).
Right now, and all season I think Maldini has been by far our best defender. Nesta was atrocious when he played during the first half of the season, Bonera has only showed his quality since he was moved to central defence, where quite honestly I still don't think he's at the highest level yet (the Inter match highlighted this for me), though has a very bright future if he keeps developing. Oddo is defensively very average and quite frankly Janku is poor defensively.
Agreed. How much do we have to spend? Antonelli, Darmian, Di Gennaro, Donati, Aubameyang, Pozzi, & Marzoratti should be in the squad for next season. Billy, Simic, Favalli, Cafu, Serginho, Brocchi, Dida, Janku, Fiori, Kalac, Borreillo (long list), Inzaghi, Seedorf, & Oliviera should not wear our colours next year. That's 14 players who are either too old, not good enough, not good enough anymore, or deserve more chances with another team. Ridicoulous amount for any club let alone Milan. That lot could bring in around 25 millions if we are lucky. We need a quality left back, a sub rb, at least 12 midfielders on our roster next season, and 6 strikers. 2 more keepers - 1 of which is a 1st choice player. Not including the possible signing of Ronaldinho I'd go for Pato, Zambrotta, Lucas, Barusso, Buffon, & Toni.
The majority of those youth players will probably be loaned out. Although Galliani did say something about 3 youth team players joining the first team. The few with a chance of being called up are Antonelli(impressed at leftback), Di Gennaro(tearing up Primavera and our lack of AM options), Marzoratti(some Serie A experience and our lack of RB options). The others will most likely be loaned to Serie A/B teams.
zlatanov
06-04-2007, 11:04
Agreed. How much do we have to spend? Antonelli, Darmian, Di Gennaro, Donati, Aubameyang, Pozzi, & Marzoratti should be in the squad for next season. Billy, Simic, Favalli, Cafu, Serginho, Brocchi, Dida, Janku, Fiori, Kalac, Borreillo (long list), Inzaghi, Seedorf, & Oliviera should not wear our colours next year. That's 14 players who are either too old, not good enough, not good enough anymore, or deserve more chances with another team. Ridicoulous amount for any club let alone Milan. That lot could bring in around 25 millions if we are lucky. We need a quality left back, a sub rb, at least 12 midfielders on our roster next season, and 6 strikers. 2 more keepers - 1 of which is a 1st choice player. Not including the possible signing of Ronaldinho I'd go for Pato, Zambrotta, Lucas, Barusso, Buffon, & Toni.
let's not get carried away - the squad for Cl is limited to 25 players ... if we have 12 mids, 6 attackers and 3 GKs that doesn't exactly leaves much space for defenders ;).
A destribution like 3 GKs, 9 def, 9 mids and 4 forwards is the most balanced IMO, especially if one of the mids is a universal player like Mancini (just an example) who can play both as a wing and as a support striker, not to mention a wing-back too.
Right now we have 10-12 defenders many of whom are old and/or injury prone and 6-7 midfielders, which is definitely not enough in terms of flexibility in tactical options and proper rotation - kaka and Pirlo are overplayed and their contribution to the team deminishes as they lack freshness from playing in virtually all our games.
I think tony was using a little sarcasm with his player allocations Zlat :grinser:
Though from his list i would keep Jankulovski. I think he's done enough to show he's a good squad player and lets not forget the points he's won us single-handedly this season :D Having said that, if we were after a very good player and the other team wanted Jankulovski as part of the deal, i wouldn't lose too much sleep about letting him go.
With the defence all over the place right now, it would be hard for anyone to look amazingly solid in our back four.
Graeme C
06-04-2007, 11:40
im surprised not many people here have mensioned Maresca that much, he came from the Milan youth team so he would be a great alternative to Ambrosini.
Tony 75 mensioned 14 players, and that didnt include Ambrosini. Im glad im not the only one picking up Oliviera..
Here's our current squad list.
GOALKEEPERS: Dida, Kalac, Fiori, Storari
DEFENDERS: Paolo Maldini; Bonera, Cafu, Costacurta, Favalli, Jankulovski, Kaladze, Nesta, Simic, Oddo, Grimi
MIDFIELDERS: Ambrosini, Brocchi, Gattuso, Gourcuff, Kakà, Pirlo, Seedorf, Serginho.
STRIKERS: Borriello, Gilardino, Inzaghi, Ricardo Oliveira, Ronaldo
Going by Zlat's ratios here's my analysis of the squad. 3:9:9:4
Goalkeepers: Storari is decent backup to Dida and I guess Fiori will probably leave. That leaves us with: Dida, Storari, Kalac
Defenders:Costacurta is retiring and Maldini is also nearing retirement. Cafu is done, Favalli is pretty much useless and we haven't even seen Grimi play to know if he's adequate backup for LB. That leaves: Bonera,Janku,Kaladze,Nesta,Simic,Oddo. Definitely not enough for a team fighting on two fronts. If we could get a worldclass defender to replace Simic I wouldn't be upset. Also Janku/Oddo need decent backups in their positions. Add one versatily defender ala Stam and we're at our 9 defender goal.
Midfielders: Serginho is pretty much past it IMO. Seedorf can't perform day in day out although he's a decent squad player. We have Ambro, Brocchi, Gattuso, Pirlo, Gourcuff, Kaka, Seedorf. Pirlo and Kaka need decent backups to relieve them from constant duty. That'd bring us up to 9 midfielders(in keeping with Zlat's ratio.)
Strikers: Borriello is probably gone, Pippo is nearing retirement and Oliveira isn't good enough(in Carlo's eyes) to make the cut. That leaves Gila, Ronaldo. DEFINITELY not good enough for a squad like Milan. One world class striker and one striker with decent potential should be good enough to bring us to our 4 striker goal.
I'll leave other forum members to fill in the gaps where necessary(what players should be added..etc)
ACMILAN1983
06-04-2007, 16:43
Though from his list i would keep Jankulovski. I think he's done enough to show he's a good squad player and lets not forget the points he's won us single-handedly this season :D Having said that, if we were after a very good player and the other team wanted Jankulovski as part of the deal, i wouldn't lose too much sleep about letting him go.
Agreed, I'd also like to see Janku pushed into left midfield more than being played as a wingback. I think given his attributes, he'd be better off starting further forward where he can really press the opponents right back and doesn't have to worry as much about his defensive duties.
hishamilan
06-04-2007, 17:02
i think to match mystics calls we need 2 CBs a sub RB a sub LB along with a backup for pirlo and other for kaka and 2 decent attackers
so i can humbly promote : 2CBs( ALEX and CHIVU )
a sub RB (MARZORATTI)
A sub-sub LB (antonelli)
pirlo's backup ( barusso)
kaka's backup (di gennaro)
2 CFs ( VILLA and HUNTELAAR)
hishamilan
06-04-2007, 17:03
I think that equation solves the ratio and the budget and the 3 youth players and also the non-euro problem knowing that those players are proven very effecient and young :5ok:
zlatanov
06-04-2007, 17:40
players like Marzoratti, Antonelli and even barusso are promising and talented at best - not even close to proven and/or proven to be efficient.
The idea of giving space to youth players is nice and romantic, I guess, but as Gattuso put it "Milan has to always win, and win now, we do not have the luxury of time to give space and grow youngsters but need proven and established players" ... or something of the kind.
It's surprising how many people push for an influx of youth players into the 25-men senior team ... what's surprising is that these same people are anxious for Milan to return to winning ways and always win, no interruptions and they would be the first to blow the whistle when playing youngsters doesn't work out as expected.
Again, it's a touching idea to grow our own talent, and I am not necessarily against it, but the reality at a club like Milan simply won't allow it as management and above all the fans themselves are impatient when it comes to winning ... quite dif than what you would find at clubs like Ajax or Roma.
That's why you send them on loan till they have proven they have what it takes to come back. At the moment a few youth team players definitely won't solve the problem we have here. The only youth player I'd probably take into Milan now is maybe Di Gennaro because there isn't half as much pressure on a player in attack to perform than a player in defense.
hishamilan
07-04-2007, 14:46
no youth defenders then ok let's re-schedule it:
2CBs( ALEX and CHIVU )
RB (CICINHO)
LB sub (EMANUELSON/CHEILLINI)
pirlo sub ( ELANO/LUCHO GONZALEZ/MINEIRO/DUDU )
kaka sub ( MONTOLIVO/DI GENNARO )
2 CFs ( VILLA and HUNTELAAR)
hishamilan
07-04-2007, 14:47
please zlat < individual rating > not a general opinion about the post
zlatanov
07-04-2007, 15:39
no youth defenders then ok let's re-schedule it:
2CBs( ALEX and CHIVU )
RB (CICINHO)
LB sub (EMANUELSON/CHEILLINI)
pirlo sub ( ELANO/LUCHO GONZALEZ/MINEIRO/DUDU )
kaka sub ( MONTOLIVO/DI GENNARO )
2 CFs ( VILLA and HUNTELAAR)
Alex and Chivu are the 2 cb I would like to see at Milan as they offer dif qualities from one another. IMO two of the best 5-6 CD def around.
A more realistic option would be to get one of those two + Cannavaro, if Maldini retires that is ... if not, I think we would be fine with one new CB, one of Alex or Chivu, preferrably.
Cicinho - won't cut it at RB IMO ... his position should be right wing-back or right attacking mid and not a ful Right back as his defensive qualities are bad to average and is constantly caught out of position on the right side.
Lucho and Dudu are pretty good options for Center mid ... Elano I think would be better in the gattuso role as his strength is also going forward and building attacks - has a very good cross and shot. A similar player I like is Tiago (Lyon).
Montolivo is more suitable for a Pirlo role in the midfieldbut I'd rather wait some time before going for him as now he is bound to sit on the bench and right now he needs to play and develop. Would turn into a fine player IMO ... eventually.
Di Gennaro - needs to play. Best thing would be to be loaned out IMO ... it's not in his or Milan's interest for him to sit on the bench. Great promise and talent in this player ... with the proper grooming, could become something very special.
Huntelaar is my #1 choice to replace Pippo ... a real hunter in the PA and has very good technique too so he is excellent in taking part in the build up not just scoring goals. A player I would like to see in Milan although he is relatively unproven at a more serious level of football ... he has some fine qualities, though.
Villa - excellent all-around forward but would cost A LOT - Dinho range type of money (read at least 40 mil) - so I don't really consider him even a semi-realistic option. I think we could build a great strike force with half the money Villa would cost us.
EDIT:
forgot the LB position:
Emanuelson - good player, could be an alternative to Serginho, but can't say he is a dream signing of mine. would be a good signing considering his young age and what he's shown so far.
Chiellini - I have nevr been a fan of his. He is physically strong but seems a bit too cumbersome and seems to lack speed in short distances ... would be easy prey for quick and agile wingers. Good at crossong though.
I doubt Juve will sell him just yet ... an if they ever do, it would mean he didn't turn out to be what they expected of him.
Other alternatives for LB - Pasqual, Zambrotta, Abidal, Riijse, Heinze.
Alternatives to your LB could Taiwo or Pasquale (Fiorentina). Assuming Abidal and Zambrotta are out of reach.
Rosicky & Van Persie would be my fantasy signings, however if Henry is possibly available for £12 million, he could be a fantastic addition.
this is the type of biz i wish milan cud do in the summer:
inter: toni
fiore: adriano+10 mill
milan:adriano + montolivo
fiore: gila+10 mil
milan:bianchi
reggina: borrielo + 5 mill
milan: quagliarela
sampdoria: 5 mill + inzaghi
milan: rosina
torino: abbiatti+ 10 mill
milan: sneijder
ajax: seedorf+ 10 mill
milan: zambrotta
barca: 8 mill
milan: cannavaro
madrid: 5 mill
milan: mesto
reggina: grimi+simic
milan: zapata
udinese: 5 mill
milan: afineekev
russian team: 5 mill
release/retire:
fiori, costacurta, maldini, cafu, favalli
sell:
dida- 3 mill? olivera-5mill? kaladze-5 mill?
cost: 60 mill give or take
team:
goalies: afineekev(storari,kalac)
defense: oddo(mesto) nesta(zapata) canna (bonera) zambrotta (sergio,janku)
middle: gattuso(ambro,brochi) pirlo (montolivo) sneijder (gorky)
attack: kaka(rosina) adriano(quagriaela) ronaldo(bianchi)
i cant c it happening, but i feel milan shud buy a few of the players i mentioned.
I recommend Marcell Jansen from Borussia Mönchengladbach. He ist a young and very well talented LB and german international - and his club is actually looking to relegate.
http://www.kicker.de/fussball/bundesliga/vereine/spielersteckbrief/liga/1/object/30521
hishamilan
09-04-2007, 16:21
very good one but as a sub < for future > he has very accurate crosses and he is a lot powerful although he is slow . he is also a regular in the germany lineups
I just came back from Easter vacations, i read all your analysis and it is very good. Zlat i agree with you that even with one WC CB we would be good, two cb will be ideal. As far for Paolo, i think that he can play one more season but with a more limited role, or by playing less time in order to be fit. For Janku playing in MD will be ideal. For Strikes i siad int he past that we need 2, Pipo at least should be out and Oliveira to be loaned. For Gila i had critised him a lot in the past but i think he sholud stay and by supporting him, psychologically and in training he is capable to offer. Ronaldo is good for playing more limited time but despite the fact that he is fat and he had injured a lot of times, he can help also. So Gila, Ronaldo, Huntelaar (or Someone else) and one player either promising but capable of playing or an "experienced" like Sheva, Crespo et.c
I saw the Spurs v Sevilla match and Alves had a decent game. However, why does he have to dive and roll around so much?
You could see him deputising for Gattuso when he needs a rest, he has the stamina and speed for that spot, as well as some aggression. His defending isn't the best, but hopefully that can be improved. Likewise he could be another Serginho for us, a great utility player who can be played off a forward, out wide, tucked in or at full-back. He has the versatility to play well in quite a few positions.
But it's just this diving, i hope he gets that out of his game. Assuming we bid for him.
Here's what I would like to see :
First of all I have no problems with Berlu wanting Ronaldinho but I hope he uses his own money and not money from the Milan bank :grinser: to get him.
If we get him I'm pretty sure we won't purchase more than 1 striker, if we even purchase one.But with Kaka-Ronaldinho-Ronaldo we will have the best attack in the world.
I'd like this team :
Dida(Storari/Kalac)
Oddo(Cafu/Mesto/Marzoratti) 5mil
Nesta(Bonera/Zapata/Simic) 4mil
Kaladze(Maldini/Terlizzi) 7mil
Jankulovski(Serginho,Grimi,Favalli)
Gattuso(Brocchi/Ambrosini)
Pirlo(Montolivio) 4mil
Seedorf(Gourcuff)
Kaka(Diego) 20mil
Ronaldo(Robinho/Inzaghi) 15mil + Oliveira
Gilardino(Vucinic/Willy Aubameyang) 15mil + Borriello
Total sum of : +-70mil
Can't even buy Ronaldinho for that but you can put together a great team with it imo. :zany:
Here's what I would like to see :
First of all I have no problems with Berlu wanting Ronaldinho but I hope he uses his own money and not money from the Milan bank :grinser: to get him.
If we get him I'm pretty sure we won't purchase more than 1 striker, if we even purchase one.But with Kaka-Ronaldinho-Ronaldo we will have the best attack in the world.
I'd like this team :
Dida(Storari/Kalac)
Oddo(Cafu/Mesto/Marzoratti) 5mil
Nesta(Bonera/Zapata/Simic) 4mil
Kaladze(Maldini/Terlizzi) 7mil
Jankulovski(Serginho,Grimi,Favalli)
Gattuso(Brocchi/Ambrosini)
Pirlo(Montolivio) 4mil
Seedorf(Gourcuff)
Kaka(Diego) 20mil
Ronaldo(Robinho/Inzaghi) 15mil + Oliveira
Gilardino(Vucinic/Willy Aubameyang) 15mil + Borriello
Total sum of : +-70mil
Can't even buy Ronaldinho for that but you can put together a great team with it imo. :zany:
i like some of the player choices...but 14 defenders? thats way too much. diego to sit on the bench? montolivo for 4 mill? 15 mil for vucinic based on one game? I think it wud be better to add a smaller number of players but more quality players.
i like some of the player choices...but 14 defenders? thats way too much. diego to sit on the bench? montolivo for 4 mill? 15 mil for vucinic based on one game? I think it wud be better to add a smaller number of players but more quality players.
Well we are still not sure whether Maldini will retire,Cafu,...
Diego in rotation with Kaka or together with Kaka if we play one striker.
I've been following Vucinic since his Lecce time and I think he's our man.
In one of the Italian newspapers there's a headline about Milan & Inter switching their sights to Henry.
Figures around £12 million are said to be the kind of sum that will make Arsenal listen to any offers. Inter will have the advantage of Vieira and they have the added bonus of using Adriano as a possible make-weight in any kind of deal. Though they are set to lose Crespo back to Chelsea in the summer, so maybe they might keep Adriano.
We on the other hand have Kaka & Ronaldo, plus the possible arrival of Ronaldinho. To me i think these are more the players he would prefer to play alongside and we also have Oliveira who could possibly go the other way.
Assuming we don't get Ronaldinho though, Henry & a fitter Ronaldo up front with Kaka behind could be an amazing combination. For this kind of price range, i think he's definately worth the money and is one 30+ player i wouldn't mind in our squad.
zlatanov
14-04-2007, 08:14
In one of the Italian newspapers there's a headline about Milan & Inter switching their sights to Henry.
Figures around £12 million are said to be the kind of sum that will make Arsenal listen to any offers. Inter will have the advantage of Vieira and they have the added bonus of using Adriano as a possible make-weight in any kind of deal. Though they are set to lose Crespo back to Chelsea in the summer, so maybe they might keep Adriano.
We on the other hand have Kaka & Ronaldo, plus the possible arrival of Ronaldinho. To me i think these are more the players he would prefer to play alongside and we also have Oliveira who could possibly go the other way.
Assuming we don't get Ronaldinho though, Henry & a fitter Ronaldo up front with Kaka behind could be an amazing combination. For this kind of price range, i think he's definately worth the money and is one 30+ player i wouldn't mind in our squad.
interesting combos, although I am not sure how well he would preform in italy and having two 30+ players for our main strikers, and assuming we'll keep Pippo, we won't be exactly future-proof in attack.
But who knows, maybe what Henry needs is a new challenge to rediscover his old self - seems a bit lost this season - very much like Ronaldo himself.
Warro Bantan
14-04-2007, 09:24
No thanks...Arsenal can keep Henry...he is not at his best physically at the moment, with no guarantee that he will return to his best.
Not only that, but I dont see him doing much in the Serie A, as there isnt as much space available for him to kick the ball and run after it...as he does with such effect in the EPL.
Nope, dont want him.
Stezagud
14-04-2007, 09:47
interesting combos, although I am not sure how well he would preform in italy and having two 30+ players for our main strikers, and assuming we'll keep Pippo, we won't be exactly future-proof in attack.
yeah, because of that i think its more likely Inter will go for him, seems like something they would do ;)
Not only that, but I dont see him doing much in the Serie A, as there isnt as much space available for him to kick the ball and run after it...as he does with such effect in the EPL.
I agree with his fitness being a risk but not with his style of play being a problem. If he gets back to his best he would be a nightmare if paired with Ibrahimovic, what could defences do, double mark them both?
The way he plays would also be very useful for Milan if he came here, he drags defenders out to the left which leaves massive gaps for attacking central midfielders, can you imagine the damage Kaka could do with extra space? Look at how Arsenal have struggled for goals from midfield this year, Ljungberg, Hleb, Rosicky and Fabregas have about 3 between them! Gilberto has more but he mainly got them from penalties and set pieces. In previous years with a fully fit Henry in the side making room for the midfield they would usually get 30+ a season from these positions.
Warro Bantan
14-04-2007, 10:06
Well, I concede u make a good point there Stez, but how many times have Rosicky et al had goals in the baby box, or on the goal line and missed? The point is, that with or without him, Arsenal have some players, that at times, cant hit the broad side of a barn with a bazooka.
I for a long time, have regarded Henry as overhyped, and time and time again he has proven it. I am not saying that he isnt a hugely talented player, but he remains for me, not:
a) the best forward
b) the best forward for Milan.
zlatanov
14-04-2007, 10:20
I agree that Henry could do well at Milan if it is a new challenge that he needs - if he's lost his passion for the game, I guess it's more than obvious what will happen.
In fact, if we let Pippo go and get a younger replacement for him, like Huntelaar for instance, I would more than welcome a move for Henry, who along with ronaldo would be our "support" strikers coming from deep and Gila+Huntelaar (or some other goal poacher) would be the target men.
Plus, I think it's always a good thing to have 2 younger players and 2 more experienced strikers, who are more or less "guarantees" up front.
However, I do agree with Warro that there is a realistic risk involved here that Henry will not be as successful and important for his team in Italy as he is in EPL for Arsenal, especially if he plays for Inter.
The dif in space available to strikers in Italy and EPL is real guys, whether you wanna buy it or not, it's there. And while I agree with what Steza said that Henry opens up spaces for the midfielders, those spaces are opened up also because defenses in EPL allow them to open by collapsing after one player "tracks"/pays special attention to Henry and allows to be lured out of position and forgets to keep his zone safe.
Defenses in Italy are much more disciplined and tactically shrude as the whole calcio is built on the art of defending, it's the philosophy of the game in Italy, just like wing play and crosses is the philosophy of the game in England.
If I want Henry in Milan, it's because I hope that he is intelligent and skillful enough to be able to figure his way to "adapting" to the new environment because if he thinks that playing in the same way in Italy would bring him the success he's found in EPL, I am more than certain that he he would be up for a big surprise.
As for his going to Inter, Inter's midfield, at least in it's current state, is rather static - players like Vieira and Cambiasso are physically robust but lack the imagination of Arsenal's midfield of 2-3 years ago - and, with Figo leaving, unless Inter buys at least 2 creative players, I think Zlatan and Henry will find themselves a bit isolated up front as they would lack creative support from midfield, something that right now only Stankovic looks capable of providing from time to time ... even now, Inter's game is based on physically dominating the midfield, wearing down the opponent with the majority of their goals coming mostly from crosses to Zlatan or Crespo or Cruz ... I don't think this is the type of "game" that would suit Henry and underline his strengths, which Steza mentioned above.
Stezagud
14-04-2007, 10:27
Well, I concede u make a good point there Stez, but how many times have Rosicky et al had goals in the baby box, or on the goal line and missed? The point is, that with or without him, Arsenal have some players, that at times, cant hit the broad side of a barn with a bazooka.
good point, well made :D
They are in trouble again, losing 1-0 at home to Bolton after Anelka came back to haunt them again! Fabregas should be a 10 goal a season player but hasnt even managed 1 yet! I think he or Rosicky will score today though...
I for a long time, have regarded Henry as overhyped, and time and time again he has proven it. I am not saying that he isnt a hugely talented player, but he remains for me, not:
a) the best forward
b) the best forward for Milan.
There is certainly a snobbish attitude amongst some football fans that overhypes both him as an individual as well as Arsenal as a side, often overlooking the point of the game isnt to play one touch passes around the pitch for 90 minutes but to score goals. I dont like that attitude anymore than you do but i do still feel that Henry for all his arrogance is a hell of a player and i would love to see him at Milan, even if only for 1 season. Maybe Arsenal will do some sort of loan deal? |We could send him back when his attitude becomes unbearable ;)
Stezagud
14-04-2007, 10:50
Fabregas should be a 10 goal a season player but hasnt even managed 1 yet! I think he or Rosicky will score today though...
shouldve put money on that :D
Considering we have Ronaldo who's not in the best shape of his life and we wheel out the
"well we had to start our training early which is why our players get tired easily this season and don't peform"
excuse at any given opportunity, i don't buy that Henry's fitness is not what it was. He's injured and needs a rest, considering he's Arsenal's main man and is played all the time, it's no wonder he's a bit knackered and has a few cracks in him so to speak!
You can't look at Henry and tell me he's a problem for fitness, he's a pure athlete and on top form he'd run past pretty much anyone. His ball control is as good as anyone we have and he can score all kinds of goals except headers. He doesn't just kick the ball 10 yards and run with it, if he does then Ronaldo and Shevchenko would be just the same. I'm fed up with this simplistic view that everything in the premiership is rubbish because it's in England.
The quality of Italian football is far from what it was and the defending is just as poor at times as in England. Yes the Italian game has defence as a main strength, but it doesn't mean every team in the italian league is any good at it. Against the bigger teams, maybe he would struggle for a while until he could adapt, but against the rest of the sides he'd be able to run amock as he does in England.
It seems whoever plays in England is belittled because they play in England and somehow the standard doesn't match up.
Latest news are saying Juve got their hands on Mavuba and Ribery, nothing is for sure of course. But I wouldnt like to see both of them at Juve next year.
Warro Bantan
16-04-2007, 10:56
I refuse to get into another "Henry" debate with my erstwile colleagues, Jim and Stez..so, if they want to bring Potato head to Milan, well, be my guest....but I would rather a young Italian, like Caraccilo or Quagliri(how do u spell his name)lera...
We three, or well, u guys and I will just have to "agree to disagree" on this one! :D
Why not both Warro? Henry and Quagliarella? Four good strikers all competing for places, 2 great experienced players and 2 younger Italians, plenty of options and room for rotation to give them all the rests they need and to keep them playing as near to 100% as possible :D
No doubt i'll get flamed now for daring to suggest a player goes on the bench :rollani: :delol:
Warro Bantan
16-04-2007, 11:44
Jim, in a perfect world, I would say yes to that without preamble...but the man management essential for ensuring that everyone is kepy happy would be a tall order, even if Carlo is one of the best man managers around.
We would definately look quite dangerous on paper, but I really think it will be more likely for Ronaldinho to come to Milan than Henry at this point, both are unlikely, but Henry´s arrival even moreso.
The good thing is, that with Ronaldo and Henry up front, there would be no need for wingers, as none of them can head the ball very well...:D
We would definately look quite dangerous on paper, but I really think it will be more likely for Ronaldinho to come to Milan than Henry at this point, both are unlikely, but Henry´s arrival even moreso.
The good thing is, that with Ronaldo and Henry up front, there would be no need for wingers, as none of them can head the ball very well...:D
Is Henry's arrival unlikely because you'd be at the airport telling him his flight was cancelled "Sorry Mr Henry, no flights to Milan, you'll have to stay in London" :D
That second point is just aswell as we don't have any wingers :grinser:
Warro Bantan
16-04-2007, 16:57
Not at all, quite the contrary...there are few players that I dislike to the point where I would try to sabotage their arrival in Milan....:D
Well, both Serginho and Gourcuff can be viewed as "wingers" of a sort...:rollani:
hitmannq8
17-04-2007, 04:08
from calciomercato:
Il Milan punta su Alex per rinforzare la difesa. Il brasiliano del PSV Eindhoven è di proprietà del Chelsea, che non può tesserarlo. Pronti 11 milioni per strapparlo a Mourinho.
Milan points to Alex to reinforce the defence. He is a Chelsea player but cannot be used. About 11 million to steal him from Mourinho.
I LIKE.
This could be great
even if he is seriously injured in this moment he is only 24 years old and is a very strong player
Alex and Zambrotta and this could be it
Oddo--Nesta--Alex--Zambrotta
Do you think that's 11 million euros or 11 million pounds? Could be a steal if it's euros.
Zambrotta and Alex could really refresh the defence. Marzoratti would probably come back as i can't see us getting Alex, Zambrotta & Alves ... though one can dream :D
zlatanov
17-04-2007, 10:37
Do you think that's 11 million euros or 11 million pounds? Could be a steal if it's euros.
I think it's 11 mil euros - Alex has been at PSV for 3 years now and I think his contract with Chelski expires in 2008 (in one year, that is).
So, with the Londoners not being able to get him a work permit even for next season, they would risk losing him for nothing without having played even a single game for them ... and they paid Santos ~8 mil euros for him.
All in all, 11 mil euros may look like a steal but if you concider the circumstances, it's more than a reasonable price, I think.
Personally, unless Roman pulls a rabit out of his hat in the form of a forged work permit for Alex, Chelski have only one smart thing to do and that is take the money until it's still on the table ... and for that we should be thanking the coaches of the Brazil NT :D
Zambrotta and Alex could really refresh the defence. Marzoratti would probably come back as i can't see us getting Alex, Zambrotta & Alves ... though one can dream :D
Alex, Zambrotta/Abidal, Alves would indeed be a bit too much but I guess with Zambrotta being able to cover both LB and RB, we could indeed get Marzoratti or another RB not as expensive as Alves would be.
and for that we should be thanking the coaches of the Brazil NT :D
i wonder if that was Leonardo's plan all along ... "no Dunga, don't play him he's not ready, wait a while" ... :D
I would assume it would be Marzoratti. I can't think of many rbs that are in the middle ground so to speak. They're either youngsters like Marz & Ilsinho or expensive like Alves & Miguel. I'm sure they'll think of something.
alex is never going to play for milan, i know im harsh but i know chelsea will never let him go, his a rock. Imho he is the reason Arsenal got kicked out of the CL, he was like a wall at the back.
King tiger
17-04-2007, 13:09
"Real Madrid would have to contact Milan first," he told Marca when asked if he wanted to move to the Bernabeu.
"I wouldn't have a problem with both clubs reaching an agreement."
"I don't think about my future, honestly," he continued. "I don't know what tomorrow may bring.
"One thinks about his future when he is going through a bad time, but I'm not.
"I've dreamt about playing for Real Madrid, but I have to say I'm very happy at Milan.
"I would never betray Milan, but I'd go along if they reached an agreement."
The discussion shifted to the best players in the world, and the contenders for the big individual awards, and the Brazilian made no bones about his own chances.
"I think I'm one of the best and I'm in a team that allows me to shine," he said.
"To be the best player in the world one has to play for a team that wins titles.
"If Milan win I could then be awarded individual awards such as the Ballon d'Or and the FIFA World Player."
from goal.com
anything bout this on calciomercato or official site ? is this statement true ?
Warro i must disagree with you on some points, I think if Henry did decide to leave Arsenal he would either go to barca or Milan. I also think he would murder which ever team he went to, be it it Spain or Italy. At Juve he was played out of position and you could say Wenger got him to where he is now. I personally think if R10 and TH14 are wearin the milan jersey next season, the team will bring terror on ANY italian or euro team trust me (obviously with K22 R99).
Henry and Ronaldo up front, now that would honestly be scary imagine if you was a defender? I said this last summer and I say it now the only player who could replace sheva is henry. However I do have this gut feeling if he does leave Arsenal then Inter will be lurking about and would probably pay silly moey for him, and 1 thing I dont want is Henry and Ibra up front jeeez that would annoy me so much.
But realistically he wont leave, if he was to leave i think he would of left last year when he lad the chance. Pretty funny tho when you think about it, he and sheva were in the same position, look at where they are now.
from goal.com
anything bout this on calciomercato or official site ? is this statement true ?
you forgot to mention that the article is about Kaka :D
I hope it's one more goal.com made up article, we've seen many of them already. I'd hate if Kaka really said that.
Hasan Rossonero
17-04-2007, 14:00
Even if he did say that, then:
Scenario 1:
Milan and Real don't agree terms, but things remain civil.
Kaka stays.
Scenario 2:
Milan tell Real to eat it and don't agree terms.
Kaka stays.
Scenario 3:
Milan and Real for some reason agree terms (very very unlikely in my view).
Kaka leaves.
Honestly, I doubt Kaka said those exact words. Probably diplomatically, every player will admit that any great club's interest is flattering. The papers could have made that something more than it was.
I don't believe anything in the press these days--especially the Spanish one.
That's why, IMO, Ronaldinho's chances of coming here are very slim. Kaka's leaving are just as slim IMO.
Yes, it was also on calciomercato.
Hasan Rossonero
17-04-2007, 14:18
Also, even contract extensions won't keep the scumbags at Real out:
Real Madcrid have not given up hope of signing Cristiano Ronaldo despite the winger agreeing a new five-year deal at Manchester United.
The Portuguese international committed his future to United on Friday after being constantly linked with a move to Spain.
However, Real sporting director Predrag Mijatovic has refused to discount the possibility of a summer move for Ronaldo.
"We knew that it could happen [Ronaldo's new deal], he is a player with a lot of quality and plays in an important team that is playing very well," Mijatovic told Radio Marca.
"We are going to see what happens in the summer.
"I see it as being very difficult, but it is not necessary to discard anything.
"In soccer today can be one thing and tomorrow another one."
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That is from worldsoccer.
Real are really a desperate club, and Del Bosque's ghost still haunts them.
I think he or Rosicky will score today though...
Dude, look in to your cryistal ball and tell me who is going to win the Premiership
zlatanov
17-04-2007, 15:51
I would assume it would be Marzoratti. I can't think of many rbs that are in the middle ground so to speak. They're either youngsters like Marz & Ilsinho or expensive like Alves & Miguel. I'm sure they'll think of something.
I would consider players like Reveillere, Faubert (Bordeaux), or maybe even Mesto good RB options who won't force us to break the bank ... in the middle between Marzoratti (cheapest) and Alves/Miguel (most expensive).
If we manage to get Zambrotta, we should be more than covered with one of them, or even marzoratti, and Oddo at RB.
Gallas is also one player who would bring tons of versatility at the back.
King tiger
17-04-2007, 16:06
Reveillere, Faubert
these guys are very good
I would consider players like Reveillere, Faubert (Bordeaux), or maybe even Mesto good RB options who won't force us to break the bank ...
Gallas is also one player who would bring tons of versatility at the back.
Don't get me started on Gallas. It brings up bad memories of the mood here last summer :mad:
I don't think he'd move after one year anyway, though i hope this case might be true of Rosicky :D
I've always been a big fan of Reveillere, but i'm not sure he'd be that cheap. I've heard of Faubert, however i haven't seen him play. I hear he's not bad though.
Stezagud
17-04-2007, 16:43
Dude, look in to your cryistal ball and tell me who is going to win the Premiership
:D
Had money on them both to score tonight too! Great Success :D
:D
Had money on them both to score tonight too! Great Success :D
I honestly dont believe that, how could you or should I say how the hell or what in the hell possessed you to put money on them 2?
Next time you can help me out also lol.
Bosniaco
17-04-2007, 19:49
These rumors for Alex are very good, I would love to see him at Milan, but Chealsea wont let him go.
zlatanov
17-04-2007, 20:04
These rumors for Alex are very good, I would love to see him at Milan, but Chealsea wont let him go.
who knows, maybe the situation is out of their hands already with that work-permit issue and his contract with them nearings it's end ... I doubt Alex would love to be playing for much longer on loan at a smaller club during some of the best years of his career. I guess we'll soon know :)
Bosniaco
17-04-2007, 20:08
who knows, maybe the situation is out of their hands already with that work-permit issue and his contract with them nearings it's end ... I doubt Alex would love to be playing for much longer on loan at a smaller club during some of the best years of his career. I guess we'll soon know :)
True I hope he does come man, a great additon to our team. Very good player, strong, and young. That what I want at Milan. :pp20:
Brasileiro
18-04-2007, 00:13
AS zlatanov said, Chesea is in a hard situation with Alex, and not only for the work-permit issue.
Alex is also between the Mourinho x F.Arnesen feud, and being Alex an Arnesen purchase(choice), Mourinho is all against bring him to Chelsea, and said several times that did not want Alex in Chelsea...Muirinho is also blocking any attempt of the chelsea to incorporate Alex:
Alex fears his move to Stamford Bridge could be KO’d by in-fighting between boss Mourinho and chief scout Frank Arnesen.
Alex claims he was told he would join the club last summer but the deal was blocked by Mourinho. The same thing allegedly happened in January.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2002390000-2007110287,00.html
Needless to say that this purchase would be my dream, but we will have strong competition if Chelsea put Alex in the market...
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