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Nesta13
18-09-2006, 08:24
What is that??Pirlo to MAN UTD???Triballfootball says that Milans directors expects new offer for Pirlo??Does somebody knows something about that???


FORZA MILAN :delol: :delol: :delol: :delol:

Tony75
18-09-2006, 08:27
donkey talk. tribal is crap, and why go to a team in decline like Manu? He wants to stay in Milan, and has recently signed a contract extension.

Hasan Rossonero
18-09-2006, 08:44
I don't think I have read one article on tribal that actually came true.

Warp05
18-09-2006, 09:57
Tribal isn´t serious football site don´t trust them. I read it for fun, i alway have a good laugh redaing it.

:D

nefremo
18-09-2006, 11:48
Completely uncreditable. Tribalfootball is the biggest joke on the net.

arcy
18-09-2006, 14:08
Another useless thread after "Maldini to Manchester City."

yahooo?
18-09-2006, 14:47
i had read that in calciomercato.com too

Hasan Rossonero
18-09-2006, 15:04
i had read that in calciomercato.com too

Yeah tribal got it from ControCampo (which was on calciomercato)...which is one of the MOST unreliable sources in Italy.

yahooo?
18-09-2006, 15:35
Yeah tribal got it from ControCampo (which was on calciomercato)...which is one of the MOST unreliable sources in Italy.
that is true

Lebanese
18-09-2006, 15:41
Different Webistes Said That Milan is Intrested in those players. i dont know if its just a press talk or they are really intrested in getting those players but let just hope they sign the french midfilder he has alot of potentials and i havenot seen Nani well and Cicinho i think that its impossible for us , The Ac milan - Real madrid issue cant be solved .

King tiger
18-09-2006, 15:52
Whats with the font??

Hasan Rossonero
18-09-2006, 15:57
that is true

Sorry I should clarify...controcampo not calciomercato is the most unreliable source in Italy.

SANT
18-09-2006, 18:14
Lebanese,

also please replace "Different websites said" with

Here's the link:

Otherwise, the post is worthless.

zlatanov
18-09-2006, 18:26
here is a link - http://www.calciomercato.com/index.php?c=12&a=17146

calciomercato is quoting ControCampo which is easily the most unreliable source one could see.

zlatanov
18-09-2006, 18:30
btw, I merged the "What about Pirlo" thread and the "Julien Faubert, Nani & Cicinho Transfer Talk" into this new rumours related thread.

SANT
18-09-2006, 18:47
seems like Silly Season never rests....

Graeme C
19-09-2006, 04:04
cheers zlatanov! i read about the Cicinho thing, the source i read said that Milan are after a Right back this winter window, Oddo is the favourite still, with Cicinho being a outside option (as he cant defend!)..

killiegradge
19-09-2006, 04:48
Why can we just use Bonera?

Graeme C
19-09-2006, 06:33
Why can we just use Bonera?

Bonera is a defensive Rb (really should be playing CB), we need a player who can go forward like Cafu

Graeme C
19-09-2006, 10:12
calciomercato.it

Milan: hour Torres costs “single” 40 mln of euro

MADRID (Spain) - an important backstage Emerges from ago renews of the contract of Fernando Torres with the Athletic Madrid, happened some days. The Spanish club would have more than halved the clause of rescissione for its forward, passing from 90 million euro to 40. The news has put in allerta the Milan, that it even considers this remarkable lowering in the rescissoria quota the contract, as marks them from part of the same Torres to make, already to next june, the great jump in one square of first level. But attention because also Barcelona and Chelsea are to the window.


Milan: ora Torres costa "solo" 40 mln di euro
MADRID (Spagna) - Emerge un retroscena importante dal rinnovo del contratto di Fernando Torres con l'Atletico Madrid, avvenuto alcuni giorni fa. Il club spagnolo avrebbe più che dimezzato la clausola di rescissione per il suo attaccante, passando da 90 milioni di euro a 40. La notizia ha messo in allerta il Milan, che considera questo notevole abbassamento nella quota rescissoria del contratto, come un segnale da parte dello stesso Torres di fare, magari già a giugno prossimo, il grande salto in una squadra di primissimo livello. Ma attenzione perché anche Barcellona e Chelsea sono alla finestra.

Stitch
19-09-2006, 11:46
LOL what a translation :D is that babbelfish? :D

Graeme C
19-09-2006, 12:10
LOL what a translation :D is that babbelfish? :D

lol nah google, worse :coffee:

arcy
19-09-2006, 12:25
I have nothing against people who post translations because I completely don't speak Italian but can make up for babelfish talk. I have a wild guess so please don't hold my word for it: :nana:

Milan: Right now, Torres costs a single 40 million transaction

An important backstage reemerges from the renewal of Fernando Torres with Atletico Madrid earlier today. The Spanish club has decreased the clause by more than half from 90 M to 40. The news has brought attention to Milan, who considers the significant decrease in the buyout clause of the contract as a measurement of how much Torres will make till next June in addition to transfer fee to another bigger club. But Milan must be alert as Chelsea and Barcelona are also in the picture.

marcovb
19-09-2006, 12:59
I dont care about torres anymore
We have Oliveira
I like the new rumours - Faubert and Nani

acmilanone
19-09-2006, 13:52
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=it&u=http://www.calciomercato.com/&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dcalciomercato%26hl%3Den%26hs%3DUIk%26lr%3D%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official_s%26sa%3DG

on calciomercato, translated to English.

What do you guys think?

zlatanov
19-09-2006, 14:04
It's not that Carlo is pushing for him or dreaming of having him back. He just says that if Sheva wants to come back to Milan he, Carlo, would welcome him but not at the expense of 45 mil.
Typical Carlo with a little bit of irony in there, don't you think ;)

Jeff
19-09-2006, 17:34
of course we would like to have sheva back... but heck cares, for now...

Milan_Mad
19-09-2006, 17:59
Ive said this before that Sheva will have a poor season with Chelsea and will want to come back to Milan where he belongs it could just happen

K77SH C
19-09-2006, 18:21
There should be a ban on tribal football rumours, unless they say we are signing Maradonna :grinser:

K77SH C
19-09-2006, 18:22
Ive said this before that Sheva will have a poor season with Chelsea and will want to come back to Milan where he belongs it could just happen

No thanks time to move on. He could have ended his career with style and grace, now he will get dumped sooner or later by Chelsea to Bolton or Wigan LOL :sagrin:

I bet he misses playing in front of three midfield playmakers constanty looking for him now that hes surrounded by a bunch of greedy F-words :devs:

savage_mau
19-09-2006, 23:08
from www.channel4.com

Alex eyes Pirlo

Sir Alex Ferguson is reportedly renewing his bid to bring Andrea Pirlo to Manchester United. It is claimed the Scottish boss is preparing a January swoop for the Italian World Cup winner as he looks to further strengthen his midfield after the collapse of his efforts to steal Owen Hargreaves from Bayern Munich. The same reports are also linking want-away Juventus winger Mauro Camoranesi with a move to the Premiership. Inter are still his favoured destination but it is claimed Juve may force him to move abroad with Portsmouth and West Ham ready to step in.

After Gattu now irlo F**K off Alex!! dont ever touch Pirlo!!!

hitmannq8
20-09-2006, 00:37
Pirlo would rather play for Brescia than go to England trust me.

joumasepoes
20-09-2006, 00:40
Enough about Torres already, his not coming.Pirlo has just extended his contract, why would he go to Man U? They already have Carrick, Scholes, O Shea, Fletcher competing for the midfield. I dont think hed appreciate being constantly rotated. Sure he gets rested now and then, but Iit would be a greater extent for ManU. So therefore NO.

kastriot
20-09-2006, 02:33
Enough about Torres already, his not coming.Pirlo has just extended his contract, why would he go to Man U? They already have Carrick, Scholes, O Shea, Fletcher competing for the midfield. I dont think hed appreciate being constantly rotated. Sure he gets rested now and then, but Iit would be a greater extent for ManU. So therefore NO.

Believe me friend if he goes to ManUtd he wont be rotated at all, Pirlo is by far better player than all the above mentioned.Probably the best in the world in that role.

Graeme C
20-09-2006, 02:54
That is a point, if Sheva did have a really poor season at Chelsea, would they ditch him? there becomes a point where he plays poor for chelsea, he plays poor for the Ukraine.. and then he has to start to worry about his career!

The english excuse is rubbish tho, Kaka speaks english brilliantly and he didnt have to come to the UK to do that..

To me, it all really depends how well Oliviera does, he started well ( even Jose Mari scored on debut) ,i think there are reasons why we have been linked with Torres...

I watched the Milan parma game that i taped, one thing the commentator said was "every Milan fan now will be looking at Oliveira and say " oh Shevchenko would have scored that".. and i have to agree a 100% with that!!

zlatanov
20-09-2006, 06:05
well, now that Sheva is gone, everyone we fans compare with him, in this case Oliveira, will seem worse as we tend to remember only the best of Sheva and expect that from Oli day in and day out.
Truth is, however, that SHeva himself had A LOT of moments of his own where fans said "he should have scored that" ... with Istanbul the most famous example for this but only one of many over the years.

joumasepoes
20-09-2006, 07:23
Believe me friend if he goes to ManUtd he wont be rotated at all, Pirlo is by far better player than all the above mentioned.Probably the best in the world in that role.
True, Pirlo is the best but hed still be rotated with Scholes. Anyways, Fergie said Hargreaves and Makelele are is priorities. Well he didnt say exactly that he said he like to see them in his team, without mentioning pirlo

K77SH C
20-09-2006, 08:23
P.I.G.s would need to land if they could fly :sagrin:

Kaka1899
20-09-2006, 08:30
I think somebody has already said this but Pirlo has only just renewed his contract keeping him with milan until 2011 so why would he be allowed to leave in january because he must be worth something to us if he is contacted for 5 years.

K77SH C
20-09-2006, 09:24
Graeme I kind of agree with your post, but Jose Mari really wasnt that bad. Its just that no one knew if he was a midfielder or a striker. As a player though he was ok and has improved.

In a way people will compare Oli to $heva, but its unfair because the cash cow left and someone had to replace him. It could have ended up being Borellio. And also $heva is 30 years old. When Oli is still hopefully scoring in four years time Sheva will be finito.

Hasan Rossonero
20-09-2006, 10:26
from www.channel4.com

Alex eyes Pirlo

Sir Alex Ferguson is reportedly renewing his bid to bring Andrea Pirlo to Manchester United. It is claimed the Scottish boss is preparing a January swoop for the Italian World Cup winner as he looks to further strengthen his midfield after the collapse of his efforts to steal Owen Hargreaves from Bayern Munich. The same reports are also linking want-away Juventus winger Mauro Camoranesi with a move to the Premiership. Inter are still his favoured destination but it is claimed Juve may force him to move abroad with Portsmouth and West Ham ready to step in.

After Gattu now irlo F**K off Alex!! dont ever touch Pirlo!!!

This is a really funny rumour...Milan will cup-tie Pirlo and then sell him to a club struggling to compete LOL!

marcovb
20-09-2006, 11:53
Believe me friend if he goes to ManUtd he wont be rotated at all, Pirlo is by far better player than all the above mentioned.Probably the best in the world in that role.


I wanted to say that
In centre miedfield manchester doesnt have players half of PIRLO value

KingHenry®
20-09-2006, 12:44
AC Milan coach Carlo Ancelotti has told Chelsea he'd happily re-sign Andriy Shevchenko.

"But not for £30 million."

lol on another note

AC Milan are being linked with Barcelona pair Carles Puyol and Rafael Marquez.

Speculation in Spain today suggests Milan representatives have travelled to Barcelona to sound out the European champs about both players' availability.

Mexico international Marquez is being targeted by Milan for the January market, while they're prepared to wait until next summer for Puyol.

Marquez is contracted to Barca until 2010, while Puyol's deal runs though to 2011.

both seem interestin, but the source is unreliable (tribal)

Giorgos
20-09-2006, 16:22
He betrayed us but i want him back, I loved him, i talk of course about the greatest goalscoer Andriy Shevchenko, who honestly "belong" to Milan.

joumasepoes
21-09-2006, 00:24
I dont think Barcelona would dump both Puyol and Marquez, but it could be one or the other. IMO there are better other options, but they know whats best.

Dr Milano
21-09-2006, 00:57
He betrayed us but i want him back, I loved him, i talk of course about the greatest goalscoer Andriy Shevchenko, who honestly "belong" to Milan.
im gonna agree , i want him back too but do you think honestly he ll come back to milan :5horse:

angelita15
21-09-2006, 01:39
Marquez I honestly can't see coming to AC.

He wants to retire with Barca.

He mentioned at one point that he'd be interested in playing Italian football, but Barca snapped him up until 2010. With a HUGE buyout. And, I love Rafa and he is a GREAT defender, but he's not Ronaldinho. (Someone you'd expect to have such a buyout.) For the 100 million buyout they have as far as Rafa's concerned...it is quite a bit. And...I can't see them letting him go.

Even for a loan period.

As for Puyol. If they have any scout out there, it's obvious that Puyol is the glue that keeps Barcelona together. If he's not on that backline, the entire team seems to fall apart. It's like they can't function when he's not there.

...Maybe Thuram or Zambrotta can make a return to Italy.

I can't see Barcelona letting Rafa and Puyol go.

But that's just my assessment and, frankly, I may be totally wrong.

Graeme C
21-09-2006, 02:02
Chivu was also noted in the same report...

Stitch
21-09-2006, 05:42
Speaking of Chivu, a quick off-topic question for Italians...how do you pronounce his name? With a "K"(Kivu) or "Ch" ?

Graeme C
21-09-2006, 06:56
Speaking of Chivu, a quick off-topic question for Italians...how do you pronounce his name? With a "K"(Kivu) or "Ch" ?

im not italian but i would say ki-vu.. Chi is said as ki.. gs are said like Js lol i love my surname in italian, it sounds like Ki djey

Stitch
21-09-2006, 07:05
my bad, i should'have targeted the romanians with this question ;) I'll open the pronouncation thread with some more questions :)

Dr Milano
07-10-2006, 09:07
http://www.eurosport.co.uk/football/serie-a/2006-2007/sport_sto977717.shtml ...

Source: Eurosport


Milan are reportedly lining up a January move for Dynamo Kiev striker Artem Milevsky as the club endures a goal scoring crisis.

The youngster has been compared to former Milan hero Andriy Shevchenko, who left for Chelsea in the summer.

Carlo Ancelotti's main strikers Alberto Gilardino, Filippo Inzaghi and Ricardo Oliveira have struggled to find the net so far this season and Milan vice-president Adriano Galliani likes the look of Milevsky.

The striker will have a chance to impress his prospective employers when Ukraine face Italy in a Euro 2008 qualifying match on Saturday.
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Dont ask me .. i dont have a clue about this guy .. just saw his cheeky penalty against switzerland .... :nervous: hes got confidence then ...

raptor
07-10-2006, 11:40
i don't thik there will be another ukrainian like sheva in the next 10 years.
and can't compare sheva with this guy.sheva was N1 in dinamo before he came in milan and this guy is sustitute of rebrov!

marcovb
07-10-2006, 11:56
He probably can become a new Sheva after few years in Milan

Xudong
07-10-2006, 12:54
I read from another forum. A really reliable Ukrainian fan was commenting on it. In a nutshell: 1) He is different from $hevchenko. He is better dribbler and passing, but worse in speed and shooting, maybe power too. 2) he hasn't established himself and so he won't leave. he just extended his contract with Kyiv until 2011.

Knowing Milan, unless he is extremely good, I don't think Milan will try to snatch him before he is proven.

Graeme C
09-10-2006, 04:10
Today the papers are linking us with a winter move for Di Natale of Udinese.. Borriello has been offered in part exchange..What do you guys think?

Vadim
09-10-2006, 09:45
http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/oct9h.html

Here's the article. I don't know, do we really need another striker? And can he really make a difference? I would rather go for Suazo, but I doubt Cagliari will let him go.

marcovb
09-10-2006, 09:51
This can be a good transfer but not important
Di Natale in this moment is better than Boriello

rosoneri_11
09-10-2006, 11:10
Why we dont go for huntelaar???????????

King tiger
09-10-2006, 12:01
Why we dont go for huntelaar???????????
Coz he cant play in CL

nefremo
09-10-2006, 13:35
At the moment, Di Natale may be a good addition. There is a quite some to go untill January though, and as soon as our forwards score a couple of goals in the next few games, all "scoring crisis" will be forgotten therefore we won't be linked with forwards anymore! A lot can change untill January, and it is only speculation! I don't really trust this rummor!

nefremo
09-10-2006, 13:39
I was expecting this. Sheva left, and now they are linking us to the "new Sheva". And what better way to do that then to find another forward from the Ukraine. I can't believe some of these newspapers......they are so predicteble, you just know that it's a crap rummor!

rosoneri_11
09-10-2006, 14:14
Pazzini is a very good striker!He is very young and talented!About di natale he is good but for milan not enough!

Mystik
09-10-2006, 14:31
We should get Cassano.. if the following is true.

http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/oct9i.html

rt9
09-10-2006, 20:53
Hmmm. Not a bad option if you come to think of it. Di Natale will definitely add depth to the "withdrawn striker" position. As of now, we've only got RO and when he's off form or injured, we end up either playing with two out and out strikers (GIla, Inzaghi), or the christmas tree. This way we've got two second strikers and two target men. Not a bad deal in my opinion.

milanisti2503
11-10-2006, 06:51
thats right he is good, but not enough for milan.We need a realy good striker not like him.We don't need bench striker,we need first team striker to replace sheva

rosoneri_11
11-10-2006, 11:29
let di natale and go ahead for one of them:cavenaghi,palacio,sobis,pazzini,nani

joumasepoes
12-10-2006, 01:01
no thank you. He is more of a winger than a striker. Id rather get a powerful striker or Cassano to assist a neeedy Gilardino. Cavenaghi is good

milanisti2503
12-10-2006, 07:36
no cassano,he is going to napoli

joumasepoes
13-10-2006, 00:14
no cassano,he is going to napoli
true. drogba is the new rumour now.

zlatanov
13-10-2006, 08:39
Just to let you know, guys, I have merged the "Di Natale" and "Artem Milevsky" threads into this one ... either way, they were not active enough to have seperate threads for rumours that would fit in here anyway.

Il croato
13-10-2006, 10:00
i have heard that milan is interested in croatian defender Vedran Corluka,playing for Dinamo Zagreb?He was one of the best in last match between Croatia-England(2:0,yeaaaaaaaaah!!!!)...Anybody heard for this?

zlatanov
13-10-2006, 10:47
Is this the one who played at RB vs England?
he was really good in that game but then again the whole NT team played very, very well ... how has he been doing at Dinamo?
He must be a young player I would guess?

Sleep
13-10-2006, 11:23
yes, (at least on rumours) we are after Sneijder again

rosoneri_11
13-10-2006, 11:31
yes, (at least on rumours) we are after Sneijder again

where did you read that????????
I know that barcelona is ner for him! :wth:

acm-zgb
13-10-2006, 11:35
you can read it on eurosport.com :devs:

joumasepoes
14-10-2006, 06:14
Here is the Eurosport take on Sneijder
"Milan director Ariedo Braida has been to Amsterdam to discuss the possible signing of Ajax midfielder Wesley Sneijder. The Rossoneri now accept that they will not prise Ronaldinho from Barcelona, and are looking at the Dutch international as a potential alternative.

The diminutive Sneijder has much to recommend him, as a genuinely two-footed playmaker with fine technique, powerful shooting and a good work ethic.

The 22-year-old will be viewed as a long-term replacement for his countryman Clarence Seedorf, who recently played out a public shouting match with coach Carlo Ancelotti.

It is believed a fee of around 10 million euros will persuade Ajax to part with one of their prize assets."
I dont know how much Eurosport lie. This is conflicting to Tribalsport, who lie alot, who have just said that they offered 60 million in cold hard cash for Ronny.I belive sneijder would be a better option. Considering he'll be 6 times cheaper, half the salary, a bolster to a midfield. How will Milan pay for Ronny. Will the director rock up with suitcases full of money like in a spy movie?

rahul.acm
14-10-2006, 06:41
I am sure seedorf won't go anywhere. He staying here for a long long time. He is like a faithful soldier to Ancelotti. Why do you think he appears with Ancelotti during press conference everytime. His role in our team is way more than just a player. He is very important to us.

About Sneijder

It depends who has more influence on him Cruijff or Van Basten.

Sleep
14-10-2006, 07:22
Even if sneijder comes, seedorf can still stay. Sneijder can play CM too <pirlo>, and with Ancelotti rotate, no problem. But I don't know if Sneijder will come. I hope yes, he has been one of the players I want to see in Milan or Valencia.

It depends who has more influence on him Cruijff or Van Basten.

I don't understand this sentence at all.

rahul.acm
14-10-2006, 07:51
Yoann Cruijff of Barcelona or Marco Van Basten of Milan

Sleep
14-10-2006, 09:03
I know both Johan Cruijff and Basten:D. I meant, what is the relations between them and Sneijder? <apart from they are from Netherland:D> What did you mean by saying these names?

rahul.acm
14-10-2006, 09:17
Which of two can influence him to join their teams (Barcelona and Milan resp.)

Sleep
14-10-2006, 13:04
I don't think this will influence Sneijder:D, both Johan and Marco didn't play at Sneijder's possition. If he chooses Milan, he will have a starting place more often than in Barca. And as I read in 2005's summer, Sneijder likes Milan very much, and he is not like sobis:D.

Jim_UK
14-10-2006, 14:15
What does Sobis have to do with things? He wanted to join us and we decided not to go ahead with the transfer for some unknown reason.

Oh wait, yeah we got Oliveira so we can get to Ronaldinho :rollani:

Graeme C
14-10-2006, 14:35
What does Sobis have to do with things? He wanted to join us and we decided not to go ahead with the transfer for some unknown reason.

Oh wait, yeah we got Oliveira so we can get to Ronaldinho :rollani:

aha :cry:

jim what do u think the chances of getting Tevez and mascherano are in January?

Jim_UK
14-10-2006, 15:01
i guess it's possible, but Juve are the ones making all the splashes about those players, mascherano in particular.

i don't know if they will leave, but i won't be surprised if they do. Especially if they don't start performing. How much they will cost though is anyone's guess. On their Premiership performances you'd say they were worth £5 million each and that's being generous :D

mrki
15-10-2006, 09:16
10mil for Sneijder is not much,actually it would be brilliant if we get him now in january. After all we did let Stam join Ajax, is it possible we didnt talk to then about
Sneijder? The man has superb shot and playmaking skills, but is really short and not so good in defending. To play with 3 short midfield players like Pirlo, Gattuso and sneijder is very dangerous.

nefremo
15-10-2006, 21:28
Mrki, you have a point there, but Seedorf seems to be short as well!

zZ[-_-]Zz
15-10-2006, 23:26
Sneijder would be more of a replacement for Pirlo than Seedorf... where Gourcuff is likely to be the replacement... as least Sneijder doesn't need as much protection from Gattuso as Pirlo does... leavin' us an option to field a more attackin' minded midfielder should the need arise...

joumasepoes
16-10-2006, 00:12
The squad can be rotated where sneijder can be backup for pirlo, seedorf and even kaka. Wed have one of the strongest midfields then

remote2book
25-10-2006, 13:08
i just reado n goal.com that milsn is going to buy iquinta from udinese in january? will this be a good move? i personally think that it will be considiring we need a decent striker

hitmannq8
25-10-2006, 19:25
Emerson has recently revealed that Adriano mentioned to him he would prefer to play at Milan rather than at Inter because it is easier and more peaceful there. A reason he plays bad is because of the numbers of Brazilians. (im not sure where I found this, maybe goal.com, but it was a reliable site)

Other rumours indicate Adriano is looking for a loan spell at Spain or something. He did not say when he wants to be back but rumours say after then Jan transfer window!

zlatanov
25-10-2006, 19:43
Actually, Emerson himself seems to be sending "come and get me" messages to Silvio and Milan as well.

hitmannq8
26-10-2006, 01:47
Actually, Emerson himself seems to be sending "come and get me" messages to Silvio and Milan as well.

Yep I read that too but I saw no quotes so I just ignored it

Stitch
26-10-2006, 03:41
Yep I read that too but I saw no quotes so I just ignored it

wanna quotes?

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=154131

When asked how he would react if Milan made enquiries about his availability, Emerson replied: "I would be very grateful, but I am a Real Madrid player. In the future though anything could happen."

"I have many friends in Milan, inclduing Dida and Cafú. and they tell me great things about the club and about president (Silvio) Berlusconi.

"Adriano has also said that it is easier for Brazilians to play in Milan and that his main problems at Inter depend on his relationship with some of the Argentinian players there."

rahul.acm
26-10-2006, 09:44
Siena's Rinaudi welcomes AC Milan interest
tribalfooball.com - October 26, 2006

Siena defender Leandro Rinaudi admits he welcomes reports linking him with AC Milan.

"Obviously, this all appeals to me a lot," he said last night. "It's beautiful to be associated with club's like that."

http://www.tribalfootball.com/article.php?id=16098

kastriot
26-10-2006, 13:43
The Real Madrid midfielder has surprisingly suggested that he would not have left Juventus if it had been up to him. At the same time, he sent out signals to AC Milan, suggesting he would want to finish his career in Italy.

When asked if it meant he wanted to leave Madrid, he replied: "I am happy in Real Madrid, but I do not want that Juventus think of me as a traitor. I would have played on for Juventus without problems."

When asked specifically if he would want to return to Italy, he was again indirect: "You never know, but I do miss my family there."

"I have many friends at Milan, and they speak very highly of the club and the president," continued the Brazilian, when asked which club he would like to join. "If Milan called me, I would be indebted. Right now I am a Real Madrid player, but anything can happen in the future."

"I am fine," he said, when asked about his form. "Real are like Juventus, prestigious and with a very strong team. However, the pressure is even greater here."

Goal.com

kastriot
26-10-2006, 13:46
His old by now,but he can help Pirlo a lot,co we could once and for all give to Andrea the freedom he needs to be at his best. The freedom he got from Lippi in the WC,where he showed that his probably the best playmaker in the world.

rosoneri_11
26-10-2006, 13:53
i read today at tribalfootball that Milan andinter are interested for Huntelaar!
If its true that are good news!

Kaka1899
27-10-2006, 06:06
it is true heres the article!

Source Gazzetta Football Italia

Inter and Milan are set to go head-to-head in the January transfer window in a battle for the signature of Dutch striker Klass-Jan Huntelaar.

According to Press reports in Italy the 23-year-old Ajax Amsterdam star has been earmarked by both San Siro sides, as they look to find a free scoring forward after their respective attacking units shot-shy start to the campaign. Huntelaar, a member of Holland's triumphant European Under-21 Championship winning side this summer, was signed by Ajax from Heerenveen for £6.4m but would be available for sale at £8m. He won the European Golden Boot last season as the highest scorer in all the top European Divisions.

Milan's need is probably greater, with Alberto Gilardino yet to score in Serie A this term and both Filippo Inzaghi and Ricardo Oliveira recording just one. However, the Nerazzurri have seen Adriano head to Brazil to recuperate after a poor start to the season and rumours suggest he may be on his way out permanently, which would leave a vacancy in the Serpenti's forward line.

Kaka1899
27-10-2006, 06:10
Source Gazzetta Football Italia

Real Madrid midfielder Emerson has revealed that he would like to return to Italy before he retires.

The former Juventus ace left Turin this summer after the Bianconeri were demoted to Serie B for their part in Calciopoli. However, recent reports in the peninsula have suggested that Milan are keen to acquire his services in the January transfer window - and the Brazilian certainly hasn't distanced himself from those rumours.

"In life you can never say never," he stated. "I have many friends in Milan, including Dida and Cafu, and they tell me great things about the club and about President Silvio Berlusconi. "The only thing that is certain is that I want to look after my family. I would be very grateful if I were to receive an offer from Milan, but now I am a Real Madrid player.

"In the future though anything could happen. If it had been down to me I would not have left Juve. I am happy to play for Real Madrid, but I do not want Juventus fans to consider me a traitor. I would have played in the lower Divisions with Juve without any problem. I spent two wonderful seasons in Turin at a club that I still consider great."

Think this has already been commented on?

rosoneri_11
27-10-2006, 06:51
"Real Madrid midfielder Emerson has revealed that he would like to return to Italy before he retires. "



He says he will come before he retires.Thats a joke!Milan wont need him then!

humanTORCH
27-10-2006, 09:59
I won't be surprised if Emerson come to Milan. We have the tendency to get OLD players before they retired :depress:

milanisti2503
27-10-2006, 11:26
ronaldo is coming!!!!!!!!


any informations about this??

rosoneri_11
27-10-2006, 11:46
ronaldo is coming!!!!!!!!


any informations about this??


Where did you learn that ronaldo is comig??? :p157:

zlatanov
27-10-2006, 11:53
ronaldo is coming!!!!!!!!


any informations about this??
Carlo was just messing with the journalists - it was just one of his ironic jokes, nothing more.

It's on an article on gazzetta.

10
27-10-2006, 13:52
However, the Nerazzurri have seen Adriano head to Brazil to recuperate after a poor start to the season and rumours suggest he may be on his way out permanently, which would leave a vacancy in the Serpenti's forward line.
I'm sure they meant perdenti's. :D

On a serious note, Adriano obviously doesn't like it on the wrong side of Milan. Would a gamble on him be mad?

joumasepoes
31-10-2006, 23:05
It says that MIlan are after Iniesta and XAvi. Now since this is on tribal this is wishful thinking but this is more like it!http://www.tribalfootball.com/article.php?id=16611

Jim_UK
01-11-2006, 03:04
Both are excellent players, but as you said the source isn't the most reliable so i think all we can do is dream about what might happen.

Kaka1899
01-11-2006, 04:04
Source Gazzetta football italia

Antonio Cassano could be set to end his Real Madrid nightmare by joining Milan in January.Cassano's frustration at becoming a perennial substitute overflowed during the Merengues 3-1 win over Gimnastic on Saturday.

The forward reportedly accused Coach Fabio Capello of being ungrateful after he stood up for the tactician at Roma. "The club's sporting directors have decided to fine and temporarily suspend Antonio Cassano from team training for disciplinary reasons stemming from incidents that took place on Saturday," confirmed sporting director Predrag Mijatovic. "I cannot guarantee that Cassano will return to play for Real Madrid." The Rossoneri are thought to be topping the list of club's interested in signing the temperamental star after the failure of Alberto Gilardino, Pippo Inzaghi and Ricardo Oliveira to hit the net since the departure of Andriy Shevchenko in the summer.

In other news from the San Siro, midfielder Massimo Ambrosini looks likely to be out for around three weeks after picking up a muscle strain in the derby defeat to Inter on Saturday. However, French revelation Yoann Gourcuff could be ready to return to the team for the Champions League tie with Anderlecht this week. "I am ready to play, I have made major improvements in the last few days and I could have maybe played against Inter," said the 20-year-old. "I think I am in the condition to play against Anderlecht. We are very motivated for the Champions League. The game on Wednesday evening is a key match for our qualification


Is this good news or not is Cassano still childish or has he grown?

kris
01-11-2006, 04:06
He won the European Golden Boot last season as the highest scorer in all the top European Divisions.


No he didn't. Toni got that one.

rosoneri_11
01-11-2006, 11:11
No he didn't. Toni got that one.


Yes?????
toni scored 30 goals last years and Huntelaar 33!

zlatanov
01-11-2006, 11:20
I think Toni got 31 last year but I think there is a dif in coefficients of EreDivisie and Serie A.

rosoneri_11
01-11-2006, 11:25
I think Toni got 31 last year but I think there is a dif in coefficients of EreDivisie and Serie A.


maybe yes.

joumasepoes
01-11-2006, 23:02
Is this good news or not is Cassano still childish or has he grown?
No its good news. You gotta bring the best talents no matter what their attitude

joumasepoes
01-11-2006, 23:07
The rumour mill doesnt stop churning. Yesterdayit was cassano, xavi and Iniesta. Today its Pizzaro (Bayern) and Faubert(bordeaux)

kris
02-11-2006, 03:25
Yes?????
toni scored 30 goals last years and Huntelaar 33!

Toni 31*2 = 62
Huntelaar 33*1.5 = 49.5

hitmannq8
02-11-2006, 03:30
Toni scored 31 only in Serie A, I remember he scored at least 4 goals in the first two WC qualifiers under Lippi. I dont think Huntelaar was even in the dutch squad by then.

Warro Bantan
02-11-2006, 07:21
The rumour mill doesnt stop churning. Yesterdayit was cassano, xavi and Iniesta. Today its Pizzaro (Bayern) and Faubert(bordeaux) Today, (http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/nov2g.html) its Diego...a player I would actually love to see here..but IMO, its just news for a slow post UCL news day...would he be willing to play on the bench? Kaka is our AM, Gourcuff replaces Clarence..or should...Pirlo plays deeper than Diego...so where would he fit in?

Can only see us getting him, if Berlu does an "Abramovitch" and just gets him so Inter and Juve dont. :diablo:

Kaka1899
02-11-2006, 12:08
and Galliani has rejcted the rumour of Cassano!

Warro Bantan
02-11-2006, 13:10
and Galliani has rejcted the rumour of Cassano!
Very well rejected if u ask me!!! :sagrin:

Jim_UK
02-11-2006, 13:39
Diego would be a fine alternative to Kaka and if we get him at a similar price to his last two transfers (around the £5 million mark) ... then we'd have a pretty good bargain.

Like you said though, would he accept playing second fiddle alot of the time. I also think his slight of frame limits him to only attacking midfield spots and none of the other midfield trio places.

Tony29.
02-11-2006, 14:03
If you guys want a goalkeeper and a striker, you don't need to spend money for 2 players.

Just buy Marco Amelia. He is a great keeper, and today he even scored the equaliser against Partizan in UEFA Cup :) :) :)

nefremo
02-11-2006, 14:19
Jim..it would be highly unlikely that we would get Diego for around the same price that Werder got him. Simply because he has been outstanding this season and Werder won't be willing to let him leave for the same ammount that they got him for. Although, you are right, it would be a great bargain if we can pull something like that.

By the way....do you think that he can possibly play in Seedorf's place? I know he is a playmaker, but maybe we can transform him to play a little behind Kaka. :D

Warro Bantan
02-11-2006, 15:52
Doubt it nefremo...he, (as Jim said) is a little too slight...i.e small of stature, physically, to play anywhere but AM...at least in our opinion...who knows..he may turn out to be a Redondo...or a Pirlo...but I doubt it.

Oh, and we definately wont get him for less than 10M pounds...(Cant seem to get the pound symbol on this spanish keyboard laptop!!! :d55: )

Jim_UK
02-11-2006, 16:05
he could surprise us all and be very tenacious in his tackling, but the last time i saw him (in the CL against Chelsea) he still seemed very slight in his build, very lightweight, so i wouldn't want to see him come up against the heavy defensive midfielders of this world.

Tony is right, Amelia should play up front! Forza Amelia :D

drucurl
02-11-2006, 22:39
I have seen Diego and Kaka play.......BRILLIANT :D
They singlehandedly took the Brazil under 19's to the finals of the gold cup and nearly took the trophy from Mexico playing at altitude!!! Plus Diego is always willing to take freekicks!!!

joumasepoes
02-11-2006, 22:59
Diego is a fantastic star, but to play further down he would have to put on a few pounds and thus sacrifice some of his natural ability. I really dont see Werder selling him in January let alone July, and perhaps Diego wouldnt want to adjust in another country so soon.
1 Solution would be to put him and Kaka upfront and adopt the Christmas tree formation. But some players snubbed that strategy and maybe not a good idea with the strikers we got. Maybe Diego and Eto could be a good idea. Milan could tempt Barca 50million euro for an injured Eto. He can play in christmas tree

zlatanov
03-11-2006, 11:44
Drogba, who has been associated with Milan for some time now, has extended his contract with Chelski:
http://www.calciomercato.com/index.php?c=21&a=22360

He seemed very keen on leaving but in the end couldn't resist Roman's temptattions, i guess ;)

rahul.acm
03-11-2006, 12:12
No one would want to leave chelski once their salary is doubled from GBP 50000 to GBP 100000. A man from Ivory coast where every man makes USD 2.3 per week Drogba is certainly the Ivorian who is having the best times of his life.

mrki
03-11-2006, 14:09
Im sure we will not go for Diego but for Ronaldinho and then play X-mas tree formation with Kaka' and Ronaldinho behind Gilardino. Which looks just fine by me. Aldough Kaka' doesnt like that formation, im sure he will adopt to it. But putting Ronaldinho is Seedorf's position, plus Kaka' and 2 forwards in front of him, is just a suicide mission for Milan. There is no way that we can defend like that. So...next year - X.mas tree it is! :)

Jim_UK
03-11-2006, 14:35
You're right in thinking that putting Ronaldinho in Seedorf's role would be asking for a disaster mrki. The guy doesn't defend a great deal, so it's not a role that would get the best out of him.

However there is a way of playing 2 strikers and Kaka and Ronaldinho and that would be to sacrifice Seedorf's role altogether and just have 2 central midfielders. Ideally these would be occupied by 2 ball winning types, like Gattuso, Ambrosini (when fit) and Brocchi. Sometimes we could get away with maybe including Seedorf or Pirlo, but it would depend on the opposition. This is how Brazil played for a while, a 4-2-2-2 formation almost.

----------Defence-----------
----Gattuso-----Brocchi------
----Kaka--------Ronaldinho---
----Gilardino----Oliveira-------


Something like that anyway. I'm saying it would be any good, but it's a possibility. However, looking at it, i think it would be too much of a change. So either Ronaldinho will take Oliveira's role up front or Kaka will have to get used to a 4-3-3/Christmas tree formation.

Egoistka
03-11-2006, 17:25
You're right in thinking that putting Ronaldinho in Seedorf's role would be asking for a disaster mrki. The guy doesn't defend a great deal, so it's not a role that would get the best out of him.



I agree with you Jim...Ronaldinho only attacks, while Seedorf goes back a lot. That wouldnt be the best use of his potential.

rt9
03-11-2006, 19:17
The problem with that formation, Jim is that we dont have any midfield cover on the flanks. Kaka and Ronie will not do much defending and if Gattuso/ Brocchi get stretched covering the flanks, our midfield will be wide open. The only way to go is to play the Christmas tree:

Defence

Gattuso Pirlo Seedorf

Kaka Ronaldinho

Gilardino (Huntelaar)

joumasepoes
03-11-2006, 23:29
You're right in thinking that putting Ronaldinho in Seedorf's role would be asking for a disaster mrki. The guy doesn't defend a great deal, so it's not a role that would get the best out of him.

However there is a way of playing 2 strikers and Kaka and Ronaldinho and that would be to sacrifice Seedorf's role altogether and just have 2 central midfielders. Ideally these would be occupied by 2 ball winning types, like Gattuso, Ambrosini (when fit) and Brocchi. Sometimes we could get away with maybe including Seedorf or Pirlo, but it would depend on the opposition. This is how Brazil played for a while, a 4-2-2-2 formation almost.

----------Defence-----------
----Gattuso-----Brocchi------
----Kaka--------Ronaldinho---
----Gilardino----Oliveira-------


Something like that anyway. I'm saying it would be any good, but it's a possibility. However, looking at it, i think it would be too much of a change. So either Ronaldinho will take Oliveira's role up front or Kaka will have to get used to a 4-3-3/Christmas tree formation.
Haha! The ladder formation. And the fullbacks will still be used to cover the flanks. Not sure if I'd want ronaldhino after the Diego rumours. Ronaldhino would be high maintenance, kinda like my girlfriend

nefremo
03-11-2006, 23:55
This just came to my mind, and although it looks like a unorthodox formation it might just work great if 'Dinho arrives.

---------Defence---------

---------Pirlo------------

Gourcuff -------- Gattuso

-------Kaka-------------

----------------Ronaldinho

----- Gilardino ----------


The reason I think Kaka should play behind Ronaldinho and not in a same line as him, is because Kaka is great at running at defenders from deep postitions. He does that better then anyone because of the way he has TECHNIQUE,STRENGTH and SPEED all combined. Something like he did against Anderlecht for his second and third goal. Kaka is the best in the world when it comes to taking the field with speed and utilizing space. Which means, if you give Kaka some space.....he will murder you with his runs.

Ronaldinho on the other hand can hang-out on the left right under Gilardino and do his damage there like he does in Barcelona. He can of-course roam and change sides to go to the right once in a while as well. But he needs to leave the middle open to leave that space for Kaka because like I mentioned, Kaka is best when given some space to run. Ronaldinho however can do damage even when not given space. He can operate in tight spaces because of his crazy skills and that's why I think Pushing him wide would open space in the middle for Kaka.....where 'Dinho will also do a great amount of damage out wide and do what he does at Barcelona right now.

I know it looks odd as we will be flooding only one wing and there is no balance, but that's why I've switched Gourcuff and Gattuso so Gourcuff can at least put some pressure on that right side as well.

This midfield and attack, plus a RB and a solid defender that we can trust to rotate, start, or be a back up.......and I think this team will be very very very tough to go up agaisnt.

rosoneri_11
04-11-2006, 01:38
Then why not like this............


-----------------------------Buffon----------------------------

Alves/Zebina--------Nesta-------Kaladze-------Abidal/Taiwo




----------Gattuso--------Pirlo-------Mascherano/Gourcuff----



-----------------Kaka------------------------------------------

------------------------------------Ronaldinho----------------
--------------------Gilardino-----------------------------------




I think thast why Silvio,and antselotti denied so many times that milan need a striker.Because if Ronaldinho comes we cant play with two strikers!

Jim_UK
04-11-2006, 06:08
This is on Calciomercato, from Tuttosport. Maybe someone can translate some of the names, i'm lost on them.

----------


Milan: Tavano, White men, Motta, Canines...

10:04 of 04 November

Iaquinta is too much beloved, for January the Milan heads at Tavano of the Valencia in order to reinforce the park attacking.
In future perspective some juvenile products of the field of the Atalanta like Canines (Cagliari could arrive), Motta (Udinese) and Rolando White men (Reggina).
(Tuttosport)


Who is Canines? Is Motta any good? Is the last one Rinauldo? If it is, he apparently said it would be a dream come true to play for us. I'm not convinced by any of those names to be honest.

zlatanov
04-11-2006, 06:54
It's from TuttoSport but still, knock yourself out Jim :D :

The article says that Milan find Iaquinta too expensive and are aiming at Tavano from Valencia to reinforce the attack for January.
In the near future, guessing from next summer onwards, several former Atalanta youngsters could arrive - Canini (now at Cagliari), Motta (now at Udinese) and Bianchi (now at Reggina).

Jim_UK
04-11-2006, 07:07
Canini, he's a pretty good prospect isn't he?

zlatanov
04-11-2006, 07:17
Canini, he's a pretty good prospect isn't he?
yeah, that's what I hear too ... he got seriously injured though.
Same goes for Motta - he's been seen as one of the brightest prospects in Italy as far as defenders go ... as it's often the case, he was even dubbed the "new Maldini" :rollani: :D

mrki
04-11-2006, 09:27
are we going for some good players?? Motta?? that is not the solution we need. Im waiting for real players that can dominate their positions, nothing else will mare Milan really stronger.

zlatanov
04-11-2006, 09:48
I personally doubt that Milan directors are planning or buying any of these players and immediately introduce them into the team.
If we do go for any of these "prospects", chances are we would take our time with them - most probably loan them out. The only defenders in Italy who IMO have a chance of coming to Milan and get straight into the 1st team are Chivu, Barzagli, and probably Mexes too, although if you ask me only Chivu of these is REALLY up to Milan standards right now.

nefremo
04-11-2006, 10:22
You are right Zlat. Only Chivu can come and claim a place in Milan. Barzagli and Mexes are great defenders and we can definatly trust them to be rotated and start some ammount of games. However I don't think we can call them undisputed starters like Nesta is at our club.
The reason why I am saying this is that I wouldn't call Barzagli and Mexes any more reliable then Kaladze and Maldini. And because of the lact of great defenders available, I always say that we don't necessarily need starting CBs, but ones like Barzagli that we can trust whenever on the field.

Xudong
04-11-2006, 11:33
I have agreed with Zlat with many many cases, however, not today. I don't rate Chivu at all. :D and I believe that he has been overrated, by people by Zlat. :guw:

Xudong
04-11-2006, 11:36
Milan: Tavano, White men, Motta, Canines...

10:04 of 04 November

Iaquinta is too much beloved, for January the Milan heads at Tavano of the Valencia in order to reinforce the park attacking.
In future perspective some juvenile products of the field of the Atalanta like Canines (Cagliari could arrive), Motta (Udinese) and Rolando White men (Reggina).
(Tuttosport)


:haha: :haha: :haha:

what translation tool did you use?

Jim_UK
04-11-2006, 12:25
That was how it was already translated Xudong, so i don't know what tool was used.

What about Milito (sp?) the CB of Zaragoza? He seems to be doing really well at the moment.

rt9
04-11-2006, 18:56
Milan set to sign "White man"? That was just great. As for Chivu, I too think he's a great player, but way way way too injury prone. Spends more time on the bench than he does on the pitch. If we buy him, they might as well throw in Mexes as cover!! :)

Brasileiro
04-11-2006, 18:57
I agree w/ zlatanov in chivu point. But, Barzagli is a good choice to be a team player. At least the guy will give a better defence in aerial game than Simic. The other guy that can be a starter in day one is Alex. First I thought that Chelsea don´t want to sell Alex, cuz they asked permition for the guy to play in EPL...but it was denied(Dutch papers said). But after Capello ask for Real to purchase Alex, Chelsea fix a price, and the negotiations could not have been closed because Alex is a no EU player, and Baptista only go to Arsenal a few minutes before the transfer deadline.
I can´t believe that after the guy to play against us 2times( being dominant), being 2 times the better defender in Eredivisie, and right now the front runner to MVP of Eredivisie(you can see in MVK site): http://alexdacosta.web-log.nl/
we aren´t after him...I remeber also spanish papper saing that after Real agreed terms w/ Chelsea, 2 italian teams try to purchase Alex, and Chelsea said that was to late because Real arrived first and had a agreement...I really hope that Milan was one of these teams, and that Alex don´t go to Inter...
Just for curiosity, J. Stam is the nº 2 in MVP race...
1. Alex (PSV) 44.0
2. Jaap Stam (Ajax) 43.0
3. Arouna Koné (PSV) 43.0
4. Wesley Sneijder (Ajax) 42.5
5. Phillip Cocu (PSV) 42.5
6. Urby Emanuelson (Ajax) 42.0
7. Carlos Salcido (PSV) 41.5
8. Jefferson Farfán (PSV) 41.5
9. Marc-Antoine Fortuné (FC Utrecht) 41.0
10. Michael Mols (ADO Den Haag) 40.5

rahul.acm
04-11-2006, 19:16
Chivu's place at Roma is probably the most secure after Totti and De Rossi. He was bought from Ajax for about 20 mn when they were in financial problems. It shows how much important the player is to them. Chivu has developed leadership skill from his time at Ajax where he was the captain of the team in his early twenties, which adds to his list price.

The only way he can go out is if Roma have discovered someone new from their impressive youth system. Roma needs cash now as they know they are on the brink of becoming a top class team so if they want they might cash in on him as he would cost nothing less than 25 mn pound as he has another 6 to 7 years of top class football in him.

Brasileiro
04-11-2006, 19:23
Chivu's place at Roma is probably the most secure after Totti and De Rossi. He was bought from Ajax for about 20 mn when they were in financial problems. It shows how much important the player is to them. Chivu has developed leadership skill from his time at Ajax where he was the captain of the team in his early twenties, which adds to his list price.

The only way he can go out is if Roma have discovered someone new from their impressive youth system. Roma needs cash now as they know they are on the brink of becoming a top class team so if they want they might cash in on him as he would cost nothing less than 25 mn pound as he has another 6 to 7 years of top class football in him.
You´re right...BTW, I´m a fan of Chivu´s game, but I don´t spend money in the guy...We have Nesta, that right now is injure prone, and don´t want another player that is more injure prone than Nesta.

zlatanov
04-11-2006, 19:31
Chivu's place at Roma is probably the most secure after Totti and De Rossi. He was bought from Ajax for about 20 mn when they were in financial problems. It shows how much important the player is to them. Chivu has developed leadership skill from his time at Ajax where he was the captain of the team in his early twenties, which adds to his list price.

what rahul siad here is exactly why I consider Chivu the only Milan-worthy defender in Serie A at the moment and in a class of his own. The above mentioned things are what Mexes and Barzagli are yet to show because being great in 2-3 out of 20 games and only good in the rest is simply not enough.
And Chivu is just 1 year older than Barzagli and 2, I think, than Mexes.

IMO, both Mexes and Barzagli are very good defenders but that's as far as they will ever go. I say this because while they have skills in abundance, I think they both lack the personality to lead and take responsibility when the knife reaches the bone ... and it's personality that differentiates great from very good players. In Mexes' case, I think it's also his being a bit too one-dimensional in terms of tactical awarenes/ability to read the game that will be a problem for him too.
Should he come to Milan, I think Chivu has everything to make that jump from a very good player - I think right now he is just that - to a truely great one.

My only concern about getting Chivu is that he is injury prone and that's something that shouldn't be overlooked either.

As for his price, I think we would be available for 15-20 mil euros as the market has levelled off a little since Roma bought him from Ajax. Also, last year similar amounts were being mentioned for how much money would Chivu cost should he leave Roma.

rahul.acm
04-11-2006, 20:18
Its a sad case that Chivu's thread has existed for more than 2 years and MM and just earlier this year Chivu's agent said that they had not received any offers from any clubs other than Inter. The reason why I would like to see him or any other Serie A-proven CB is because Nesta is not commenting back on the speculations that he might join Lazio by 07/08. The rumours have existed since a long time but unlike previously he hasn't thrashed them this time.

I just hate the attitude of these hard-hitting Roman players. They will never taken non-Roman teams seriously even if they are a part of that team.

acdc81
05-11-2006, 02:54
forget chivu. he wants to stay in rome, he will soon sign a new deal with them. we just have to accept that. i think he is too injury prone anyway. sure he is a hell of a player but i don't want another ambrosini in our squad. alex on the other hand seems to be exactly what we are looking for but i doubt that our management is able to bring him in.

i don't trust them anymore. they seem to have lost their passion and determination completely otherwise they would not buy players we don't need. probably it is also carlos's fault as he seems to accept every mediocre player they put him on the bench unlike capello who clearly says which player he demands.

Jim_UK
08-11-2006, 03:18
The Corriere dello sport is saying we are looking to spend 150 million (£110 million) in January! :eek:

Ronaldino, Ronaldo, Alexis and Canini are the players apparently.

It mentions something about Abidal, Barzagli and Amelia also.


Gazzetta says that Van Basten, Spalletti and Lippi are the names to take over Ancelotti's job.

Graeme C
08-11-2006, 03:47
The Corriere dello sport is saying we are looking to spend 150 million (£110 million) in January! :eek:

Ronaldino, Ronaldo, Alexis and Canini are the players apparently.

It mentions something about Abidal, Barzagli and Amelia also.


Gazzetta says that Van Basten, Spalletti and Lippi are the names to take over Ancelotti's job.

hahaha! corriere must be reading the forum, those are the 3 names we spoke about! I would go for Lippi, Basten wants to stay with Dutch team, and Lippi has more experiece i.e. titles and trophies to his name!

We dont need Ronaldinho , and Ronaldo... Higuain and Torres would be better.. Whos Alexis? Canini is promising, he has looked really good at times!

ACMILAN1983
08-11-2006, 03:57
The Corriere dello sport is saying we are looking to spend 150 million (£110 million) in January! :eek:

Ronaldino, Ronaldo, Alexis and Canini are the players apparently.

It mentions something about Abidal, Barzagli and Amelia also.


Gazzetta says that Van Basten, Spalletti and Lippi are the names to take over Ancelotti's job.

lol, seems to me a bit over the top to expect that.

Of the three managers linked I'd go for Lippi most of all, am personally a fan of him and he knows many of the players quite well. However, that is only if Ancelotti's time is confirmed to be over.

Graeme C
08-11-2006, 03:59
makes me wonder tho, Gazzetta are the most reliable paper out of the big three, what has made them decide to post it this morning?

acdc81
08-11-2006, 04:14
makes me wonder tho, Gazzetta are the most reliable paper out of the big three, what has made them decide to post it this morning?

they say a new coach my come but not now but in the next summer (Alla fine della stagione, Carlo Ancelotti e il Milan potrebbero decidere di separarsi.).
if i could choose one out of the mentioned spalleti, van basten and lippi i would probably go for lippi. van basten is far from impressing til now.

the transfer rumours are from Corriere dello sport, don't know how reliable they are but when i read the above they seem to be on par with tribalfootball.

Graeme C
08-11-2006, 04:20
Lets just say a Big If, if Ancelloti was let go before xmas, Lippi could come in the new year (january), and Cesare Maldini or Tassotti could be caretaker until then.

acdc81
08-11-2006, 04:23
Lets just say a Big If, if Ancelloti was let go before xmas, Lippi could come in the new year (january), and Cesare Maldini or Tassotti could be caretaker until then.


do you think that would make much of a change?

personally i think the problem is more the team (and the lack of alternatives the coach can choose from) rather then the coach.

Graeme C
08-11-2006, 04:27
mixture of all really, lack of depth to the squad, lack of width, predictable gameplay, but blaming everyone is not going to solve anything...

There is a saying in the army, Sh*t runs uphill...

acdc81
08-11-2006, 04:30
There is a saying in the army, Sh*t runs uphill...

*lol*

have to remember that one

rahul.acm
08-11-2006, 06:00
Corriere dello sport is just as reliable as Gazzetta but it targets the clubs in the capital. All these newspapers have to print 30-40 pages everyday, spare a thought for them. :D

Ok serious stuff ahead:

Getafe president: AC Milan following Alexis

Getafe president Angel Torres has admitted AC Milan are keen on their young centre-half Alexis.

"Milan are following Alexis, who is a phenomenon," revealed Torres. "But it is important not to forget that the Italian club already tried to sign him when he was 16 years old."

Torres also dismissed whispers of interference in transfer policy.

"Here at Getafe, where the president oversees everything, the coach coaches and the players play."

http://www.tribalfootball.com/article.php?id=17508

When the right monies arrive all the arrogant small clubs will throw the players out like hot potatoes.

rahul.acm
08-11-2006, 06:23
Of the three coaches shortlisted, I would prefer the following order:

Spaletti
Lippi
van Basten

Don't discount what Spaletti has done. Compared to Lippi he far away from the heavy loads of silverware but he has done lot more than Lippi did by his age. He will be hard to get as Roma know what Spaletti is and won't let him go. Perhaps maybe if Lippi joins Roma then we might have a good chance signing him.

Jim_UK
08-11-2006, 10:33
Spalletti is a good coach, but his european, big game and big club experience is limited. I like him though, his teams play good football.

Lippi on the other hand has done everything, he knows all and sees all, it's just that his teams play slightly boring football it seems.

I'd be happy with either of them and Ten Cate as assistant coach.

Warro Bantan
08-11-2006, 10:39
I am undecided...Lippi may not chose to entertain Berlu´s interfearance....Spalletti is untested really, in the UCL....Van Basten isnt givin up the Dutch NT job...Rijkaard would be my preferred choice, but only if he brings Ronaldinho with him.

Dunno...kinda ok with Carlo ATM...but whomever they chose to replace him, may they bring trophy after trophy to our club.

acdc81
08-11-2006, 10:49
i'm not so sure about rijkaard, he seems quite helpless in barca at the momemt himself. i don't think it is only eto'o they are missing. people say it was his asisstent coach Henk Ten Cate who was the mastermind behind the recent success of barca who is now back in holland and doing a fantastic job at ajax.

maybe we should go directly for him instead of rijkaard or at least get them both although i can't imagine him playing second fiddle again.

Jim_UK
08-11-2006, 11:23
Ten Cate would bring the european experience that Spalletti lacks. Could be a good partnership.

Boss = Spalletti.
Assistant = Ten Cate.

I've heard it might even be Mourinho, i think i'd puke if that happened.

zlatanov
08-11-2006, 11:59
you guys are dreaming if you think Ten Cate would step down from being head coach to another assistent job. If he is indeed that good, from now on he would only grow and improve as a head coach and there won't be any step backwards for him ... just like Mourinho did once he left Barca. Maybe he will make it, maybe he won't but from now on it I think it would be only playing the big-boss for him

IMO, the only good replacement for Carlo at this point in time is Lippi with Tassoti as assistant coach. Hiddink would also be a good choice but now he is busy with the Russian NT and probably won't be available until after the EU finals in 2008 provided that they qualify. Another good option would be benitez, I think.

Coaches like Ten Cate, Spalletti and MvB have some more learning to do before they can be viable options for the position of Milan head-coach. As for Spalletti in particular, I think he is one of those coaches who do great with smaller teams where the xpectations aren't that high but never really manage to repeat their success at the highest level.

For me the best thing to do would be to give Carlo an improved squad and some time to see if he can still do well at Milan ... would be stupid to put the blame on Carlo and lose a coach like him so easily when a lot of external circumstances are influencing the team's perfomance.

rahul.acm
08-11-2006, 12:14
I don't want Carlo to go. I agree that sometimes he has gone wrong with our team (formation) but he has made sure that the team would fight back instantly. He is a very good coach and he shouldn't be blamed for this slump. Our players are going through a bad form and most importantly this is a very weird season due to the penalties and the CL qualification.

Please have faith in him, he is very intelligent and capable of taking us a much higher level.

mrki
08-11-2006, 14:27
Lippi is by far the best coach of all those you mentioned in here. He can do it all, and in the end - win it all. Italy didnt play boring football in the WC, becouse Lippi cen get 100% of any team. Not Van Basten, not Rijkaard, not Spalettio can do that. Not to even compare the legend like Lippi with Carlo.

Jim_UK
08-11-2006, 14:55
You're probably right mrki (and others), Lippi is probably the best man for the job.

He keeps saying he won't take another job until he's had a years sabatical (1 year rest from managing), which would leave him open to job offers next summer and, if you believe these rumours, that is the time Ancelotti will apparently leave by mutual consent even though he's contracted to the summer of 2008.

Brasileiro
08-11-2006, 15:55
Why no love for Scolari??? The guy has prove himself in every club or NT for him coached...and isn´t also dpendent of one tatical scheme. His teams play at 4-4-2; 3-5-2; 4-2-2-2; 4-2-3-1 and always perform.

sheva-gila
08-11-2006, 16:07
For me the best thing to do would be to give Carlo an improved squad and some time to see if he can still do well at Milan ... would be stupid to put the blame on Carlo and lose a coach like him so easily when a lot of external circumstances are influencing the team's perfomance.

well said... I agree with you zlat

K77SH C
08-11-2006, 16:07
Actually, at first thought I think Scolari would be well suited to Milan. I just wonder whether we would maintain our high level european performances. I dont see that happening under Lippi though.

Ancelotti is still the best man.

Jim_UK
08-11-2006, 16:09
Isn't Scolari in a job already?

The names that have been mentioned are either not employed (Lippi), out of contract next summer (Spalletti, i think he is anyway) or not having the best of times with their current employers (Rijkaard and Van Basten to an extent).

I'd have thought Scolari is quite happy where he is?

Graeme C
08-11-2006, 16:30
you cant really say Lippi is boring, alot of people said the same thing about Ancelloti! belusconi will put the preasure on to play attacking football, scolari is ok, but he hasnt won anything in Italy, i think thats what we need!

Tony29.
08-11-2006, 17:43
Lippi is by far the best coach of all those you mentioned in here. He can do it all, and in the end - win it all. Italy didnt play boring football in the WC, becouse Lippi cen get 100% of any team. Not Van Basten, not Rijkaard, not Spalettio can do that. Not to even compare the legend like Lippi with Carlo.
Well said Mrki. I agree on everything, exept for the last part, because i do have high opinion about Carlo also.
Italy didn't play boring football under Lippi, nor did Juventus during his time (oposite of Juve under Capello, Juve under Lippi was trashing it's opponents and wasn't making some bore to death 1:0 wins).
He won WC with Italy, won CL with Juve and played in 3 more CL finals with Juve. Yes, he did have Del Piero in top form, Zidane at his best, or Buffon, Canna and Pirlo in top form for Italy....but a huge credit must be given to Lippi also !
His only failure was the season he spent in Inter......but who can blame him for that ?!

Aficio
08-11-2006, 18:28
New coach will need time to adaptation, even Italy-expert like Lippi. Remember the old poor Inter, always fast change coach, always... Now they begin to success.

I think what we need most is a good break, not a new signing or new coach.

meazza
08-11-2006, 20:46
I'm not to sure about Lippi. To me, he seems like he's a bit burned out at the top level now, usually all managers have one last disasterous spell at a club before they sink out of view. I have bad feeling we'll be that disasterous spell if we go for Lippi.

The only thing that would be a real positive about him though is the clout he carries. I don't think carlo carries enough respect with the board, I think he'd have a tough time demanding new players. Lippi on the other hand would command a lot of respect from the off, and would likely get a substantial budget to sort the team out. (something any new manager would surely do, Carlo's team selections seem based quite a lot on his faith in certain aging indivuals)

Brasileiro
08-11-2006, 22:21
you cant really say Lippi is boring, alot of people said the same thing about Ancelloti! belusconi will put the preasure on to play attacking football, scolari is ok, but he hasnt won anything in Italy, i think thats what we need!
So, give the man a job in Italy :D

joumasepoes
08-11-2006, 22:46
New Rumours.

Theres alot of cool rumours on tribal football. Inter and Milan are locked on Higuain. Also Barusso and the one that got my attention was Palacio.

It also says Zebina refused to come on as a substitute for Juve in a Serie B game as he is frustrated with serie b, so maybe he would make a good RB for us?

Xudong
08-11-2006, 22:58
New Rumours.

Theres alot of cool rumours on tribal football. Inter and Milan are locked on Higuain. Also Barusso and the one that got my attention was Palacio.

It also says Zebina refused to come on as a substitute for Juve in a Serie B game as he is frustrated with serie b, so maybe he would make a good RB for us?

please don't take this in a wrong way, as I am good-intentioned. :tong: but you have referred to three 'crap' in one single post (see above please). and one should be forbidden to say either one of them in our forum, let alone three. :D so I suggest that you be banned. :ban:
:guw:

ACMILAN1983
09-11-2006, 03:58
becouse Lippi cen get 100% of any team.

All but Inter it seems ;)

kris
09-11-2006, 04:06
Lippi was not boring in his first spell with Juventus, his three pronged attack was great. But that is quite some time ago.

My worry about Lippi is the worry about time, as the same with Trappatoni, I am worried he will be to stale in his ways after all these years. This don't have to be true at all though. He made many strange choices in the world cup and he doesn't seem to trust young players at all.

Maybe this is what worries me the most. He doesn't seem to trust young players. I want our next manager to be someone that really do trust them, not to Wengeristic levels where the team is stripped of experience at times, but at least give them some playing time and phase them into the team.

Jim_UK
09-11-2006, 04:22
Corriere dello sport says our main targets are Trezeguet, Zambrotta, Amelia, and Iaquinta ( :rollani: )

It's like the summer all over again :D

rosoneri_11
09-11-2006, 04:49
From:http://www.tribalfootball.com/article.php?id=17653

Lippi, Ronaldinho headline AC Milan overhaul
tribalfooball.com - November 09, 2006

AC Milan are ready for a team restructure at the end of this season.

Corriere dello Sport says this will be coach Carlo Ancelotti's final campaign in charge at the San Siro and he will be replaced by Italy's World Cup winning boss Marcello Lippi in June.

The team will also go under a revamp with Barcelona superstar Ronaldinho top of Milan president Silvio Berlusconi's shopping list.

But the spending spree won't end with the Brazilian. Barcelona teammate Gianluca Zambrotta is also wanted, along with Livorno goalkeeper Marco Amelia and strikers Vincenzo Iaquinta (Udinese) and David Trezeguet (Juventus).

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My god!It sounds like a big transfer spendig if it comes true!If we sign this people Milan will be unstopable! :p283: :p283: :p283:

rosoneri_11
09-11-2006, 04:52
From:http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/nov9e.html

Benitez dreams of Italy Thursday 9 November, 2006

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Coach Rafael Benitez would consider leaving Liverpool for a job in Italy, stated his agent on Thursday.

The Spanish tactician, who is considered one of the best Coaches on the market, is happy to stay at Anfield, although he would consider a Serie A switch in the right circumstances.

“Benitez is a Coach ideally suited to Italy and the country’s style of football and he is one of the best three Coaches in the world,” said agent Manuel Garcia Quilon to The Sun.

“If he receives an interesting offer from a club with a serious project, he will certainly consider it and in this case he could even leave Liverpool,” continued Quilon.

“Benitez is a highly prepared Coach, he works 24 hours a day and is able to train in a way few others in the world can – you just need to look at what he has won to see that.”

Benitez joined Liverpool from Valencia in 2004, having led the Spanish side to the title and UEFA Cup.

Since then he has won the Champions League, European Super Cup and FA Cup with the Reds, although he has come under fire for his rotation policy this term.
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He wants to come on Italy!But where will he go? Inter or Milan???I think we should let him!I prefer Lippi!

Jim_UK
09-11-2006, 05:58
I think Benitez is committed to Liverpool for the next few years, so any possible move to Italy will be in the future and not anytime soon.

That said, he is a great coach, one of the best around. He shouldn't be dismissed.

kris
09-11-2006, 07:39
The good thing is that he use youngesters, the bad thing is that he want quite some duds and also play them. Also, he stand for a defensive football that I don't really prefer.

Warro Bantan
09-11-2006, 08:05
Not only that kris, but he rotates a little too often for my tastes...I have a friend who is a Liverpool fan, and this is really his impression, that he has passed on to me as it were....

Think he is a good coach...and if u cant beat them, hire them!

Tony29.
09-11-2006, 08:36
Corriere dello sport says our main targets are Trezeguet, Zambrotta, Amelia, and Iaquinta ( :rollani: )

It's like the summer all over again :D

"In the meantime, Juve chief Giovanni Cobolli Gigli has confirmed that the club will not be selling David Trezeguet in January.
The Frenchman did not play on Monday in the big match with Napoli and rumours have once again suggested that he may leave the Bianconeri.

But Cobolli Gigli was eager to specify that the player was only injured and there were no other motivations behind his absence. "

“Trezeguet has been linked with Milan? David is absolutely not for sale,” stated the President.
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Source: Football Italia




Anyway, why so much interest from Milan's side about Juve players ?
I've read Milan was/is connected to Buffon, Zambrotta, Cannavaro, Camoranesi, Emerson, Trezeguet, Ibrahimovic....
I've even seen here on MM how some members had more Juve than Milan players in their "Milan 2006/07 season" wish list ! :rolleyes:

Seems like something none of you wants to say directly, is said between the lines :)

Warro Bantan
09-11-2006, 08:48
I'm not to sure about Lippi.....The only thing that would be a real positive about him though is the clout he carries. I don't think carlo carries enough respect with the board, I think he'd have a tough time demanding new players. Lippi on the other hand would command a lot of respect from the off, and would likely get a substantial budget to sort the team out. (something any new manager would surely do, Carlo's team selections seem based quite a lot on his faith in certain aging indivuals)

meazza, not sure if I agree with u on this...Berlu, in my knowledge, has never given coaches "free reign" over transfer decisions etc....and as we all know, Berlu = Milan´s board....so, while I wouldnt mind Lippi, I think we could do better, either keeping Carlo, or going for Rijkaard and Cate.

Jeff
09-11-2006, 09:41
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Anyway, why so much interest from Milan's side about Juve players ?
I've read Milan was/is connected to Buffon, Zambrotta, Cannavaro, Camoranesi, Emerson, Trezeguet, Ibrahimovic....
I've even seen here on MM how some members had more Juve than Milan players in their "Milan 2006/07 season" wish list ! :rolleyes:

Seems like something none of you wants to say directly, is said between the lines :)

Coz the press has no idea what Milan will do.
And, there is always a tendency for human being to believe that other people have a better life than us, considering ourselves as the victim rather than the fortunate. ;)

hitmannq8
09-11-2006, 13:07
from chan4:


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Ancelotti wins Milan vote Thursday 9 November, 2006

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Milan chief Adriano Galliani insists Coach Carlo Ancelotti will remain at the club until his contract expires.

Although the tactician is tied to the Rossoneri until June 2008, speculation suggests that he could leave at the end of the season given his difficulties this term.

However, Galliani has shot down those reports and handed the former midfielder a massive vote of confidence.

“He has a contract with us and will still be on the bench in 2008,” Galliani noted on Thursday night. “That is official and definite.”

Numerous men have been linked with Ancelotti’s job, including Italian World Cup wining boss Marcello Lippi.

“Lippi is a great Coach and I rate him highly. I think there is a friendship between us, but the Milan boss is Ancelotti,” added the ex-Lega Calcio President.

Galliani’s words come just a few hours after Lippi himself ruled out such a switch.

“Me to Milan? No thanks,” stated the cigar smoker. “I have too much respect for Ancelotti.”

Turning to transfer matters, Galliani did suggest that the club are ready to buy even if they may have to forget about a certain Barcelona player.

“I don’t think we can present Ronaldinho to the fans as it seems that Barca won’t sell him,” he continued.

“But our supporters deserve to be rewarded for their passion. If we can get them a present then we will.

“However, I really don’t think it will be Ronaldinho.”





Braida said the same thing at the beginning of last summer and promised a big-name signing for the fans cuz we deserved it and they got nothing. Now Galliani is saying they want to bring a good signing, not for the sake of the team, but as a gift for the fan's passion!!

Jim_UK
09-11-2006, 13:20
I think these comments about giving the fans 'a present' are quite pathetic to be honest. We're not kids, we don't need toys or rewards. We want players who will fight for the badge and who will improve our team in the necessary areas.

These kinds of promises are just political rubbish. It's just an excuse for them to use when they can't/don't get the players they look at. It's time they stopped the talk and actually delivered.

nefremo
09-11-2006, 13:30
Braida said the same thing at the beginning of last summer and promised a big-name signing for the fans cuz we deserved it and they got nothing. Now Galliani is saying they want to bring a good signing, not for the sake of the team, but as a gift for the fan's passion!!

I think we will finally find out who is the bigger lier. :)

Warro Bantan
09-11-2006, 15:19
I think these comments about giving the fans 'a present' are quite pathetic to be honest. We're not kids, we don't need toys or rewards. We want players who will fight for the badge and who will improve our team in the necessary areas.

Jim: Speak for urself dude!!! :devil:

Daddy, please make Santa bring me a Ronaldinho or a Diego, an Amauri, a De Rossi, a Kompany and a Buffon for Christmas!!! Puhleeeeease!! :D

mrki
09-11-2006, 15:46
This talk about Carlo staying untill 2008 are all lies. Well, I hope so...becouse its really a time to say goodbye to Carlo. Of course Galliani will not say it now, or wil Lippi, but I still have hopes that we will have Marcelo Lippi in Milan. That would be our biggest mercato move.

Jim_UK
09-11-2006, 15:53
imagine finding Lippi under your tree at christmas!

What a shock to find that silver haired, wily, cigar chain smoking, slightly scuffed seasoned traveller instead of Buffon :D

drucurl
09-11-2006, 16:15
OH NO Barca want Ronaldo!!!!!

hitmannq8
09-11-2006, 16:40
im watching the River-San Lorenzo game right now and its 4-0 for River.. im not so impressed by Higuain, but Belluschi is good I like him, but give him more time to prove himself before even thinking of making a move. The one I liked the most is ARIEL ORTEGA. Does anyone know how old is he? Damn he just returned from an injury and came on as a sub for 20 mins and is playing AMAZING!!

Giorgos
09-11-2006, 16:42
Lipppi, Lippi, Lippi, come on he won the world cup with Italy but he is not a magician, remeber his period in Inter....

Graeme C
09-11-2006, 16:58
im watching the River-San Lorenzo game right now and its 4-0 for River.. im not so impressed by Higuain, but Belluschi is good I like him, but give him more time to prove himself before even thinking of making a move. The one I liked the most is ARIEL ORTEGA. Does anyone know how old is he? Damn he just returned from an injury and came on as a sub for 20 mins and is playing AMAZING!!

Ortega as in the ex parma and sampdoria man, wiki say he was born in 74, so 32? il take higuain for that reason :)

Jim_UK
09-11-2006, 17:13
i saw alot of madrid fans talking about Belluchi. Is he already a Madrid player? I hope not.

It's bad enough they stole Marcelo.

rosoneri_11
10-11-2006, 02:04
From:http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/nov9h.html

Milan monitor Alexis Thursday 9 November, 2006

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Milan are interested in signing Getafe defender Alexis Ruano, according to the Spanish club’s chief Angel Torres.

The 21-year-old joined the Primera Liga side in the summer from Malaga, where he grew up in the youth team, and has impressed in Bernd Schuster’s team.

He hit the headlines after scoring the winner against Real Madrid in October, although he has been sidelined in the past few weeks after suffering an injury against Recreativo.

“Milan are following Alexis, who is a phenomenon,” said Torres. “You mustn’t forget that the Italian club had already tried to sign him when he was 16-years-old.

“Getafe is a club where the President presides, the Coach coaches and the players play," concluded Torres, referring to claims he was interfering with his Coach’s plans.
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I think we should forget oddo ho is 30,and we had to be real interest on that kid who is making great apearances with Getafe!

Tony29.
10-11-2006, 05:10
. The one I liked the most is ARIEL ORTEGA. Does anyone know how old is he? Damn he just returned from an injury and came on as a sub for 20 mins and is playing AMAZING!! "The Donkey" was the most talented football player post Maradona, but there was something wrong in his head and it stopped him from beeing on the same level with his famous countryman, with Zidane, with Ronaldinho etc.
As Graeme said, Ortega is 32 and his time passed. He was at his best between WC 1998 and WC 2002, but although he had everything to lead Argentina to the gold on both WC's, he got a red card in the 1/4 finals in 1998, and failled to impress ( just like everyone in Argentinian squad) in 2002.
He had problems in his European clubs also because of his temper ( i remember FIFA suspending him for more than a year, but i don't remember what did he do).
Shortly : The talent of Kaka, the dribling of Brazilian beach footballer, the age of Gaizka Mendieta and Sol Campbell, and the temper of Eric Cantona.

He didn't succeed in Europe, but is still regarded as the best Argentinian footballer atm. He's a legend in River Plate, and a Legend in Argentinian national team, with more than 80 caps and 17 goals for them !

Warro Bantan
10-11-2006, 08:09
Good summation Tony...indeed, Ortega, el burro...was (and still is to some extent) a fantastic player, who delivers nutmegs, through passes, like its just another reflex action like breathing...

A wonderful player to watch...but, as Tony said..he isnt all-together upstairs (mentally)..but then again, few geniuses are.

Would have loved to have seen him at Milan, but I think we had Boban and Leonardo when he played for Samp...so he would probably have been benched.

Excellent player...though a disappointment in that he never achieved on the biggest stages.

Sleep
10-11-2006, 08:24
Ortega had a brilliant goal in 1998, what a shot. But I remember his header more:D. Along with Palermo <3 shots:D>, Ortega is one of the most "strange" player. He is so talented but I never know why his name didn't last for a long time. With our transfer way, getting Ortega is not a bad idea, right?:D:D:D

Jim_UK
10-11-2006, 10:56
Dudu is the latest player to be linked with us. An alleged link albeit.

I don't know a thing about him, though i remember someone saying he played well against Arsenal at the Emirate stadium a few weeks back. Might have been Kash, or Stezza ... someone did, i know that much :D

zlatanov
10-11-2006, 11:06
Is this Dudu Cearense you are referring to?

Brasileiro
10-11-2006, 11:33
Dudu is the latest player to be linked with us. An alleged link albeit.

I don't know a thing about him, though i remember someone saying he played well against Arsenal at the Emirate stadium a few weeks back. Might have been Kash, or Stezza ... someone did, i know that much :D
Jim, IMO Dudu isn´t Milan material...and right now I give you 2 players(brazilians) in Dudu positions tha are at least 2 times better:
Renato: is tearing up in Spanish league playing for sevilla.
And another pearl of fluminense: Arouca(20yo) DM. If this guy wasn´t injured for the most of the year, his name will be in all rumours. As I said of Marcelo in the begining of the year here, whatch out for this guy.

Jim_UK
10-11-2006, 11:43
I don't know Zlat, it's Dudu from CSKA Moscow. That's all i know.

zlatanov
10-11-2006, 11:53
I don't know Zlat, it's Dudu from CSKA Moscow. That's all i know.
yeah, that's him - Dudu Cearense. I think he's a good player but unless he grows a lot, and I mean a lot, from now on, I don't seem him as a player who would make a dif in Milan.
There certainly are many other better options out there.

acgaetano
10-11-2006, 12:57
The Corriere dello sport is saying we are looking to spend 150 million (£110 million) in January! :eek:

Ronaldino, Ronaldo, Alexis and Canini are the players apparently.

It mentions something about Abidal, Barzagli and Amelia also.


Gazzetta says that Van Basten, Spalletti and Lippi are the names to take over Ancelotti's job.


in the summer not january and it say lippi will be the new manager if we don't win anything this season and lippi wants
cassano,zambrotta,bagzagli,xavi,barone, buffon or amelia

acgaetano
10-11-2006, 13:01
and David Trezeguet

acgaetano
10-11-2006, 13:03
Stories in Spain on Friday are suggesting that boss Frank Rijkaard could leave Barcelona for Milan in June.

The AS newspaper suggests that the Blaugrana Coach is ready to quit the Nou Camp given his strained relationship with sporting director Txiki Beguiristain and the constant presence of Johan Cruyff.

The sports daily goes on to suggest that Rijkaard, who played alongside current boss Carlo Ancelotti during their Milan days, may also bring Ronaldinho with him to the San Siro.

However, Milan Vice-President Adriano Galliani last night insisted that Ancelotti would remain and virtually ruled out signing the Brazilian.

Meanwhile, CSKA Moscow midfielder Dudu is allegedly interested in a move to Milan and hopes to complete his dream switch next summer.

The 23-year-old could be an interesting addition to the squad, although it seems likely that CSKA will ask for a significant amount of money before selling.

Jim_UK
10-11-2006, 13:56
in the summer not january and it say lippi will be the new manager if we don't win anything this season and lippi wants
cassano,zambrotta,bagzagli,xavi,barone, buffon or amelia


The headline was about us spending £110 million in January, not the summer. That was a headline a few days ago before todays headlines of what Lippi allegedly wants. Two different stories.

Maltese Charlie
11-11-2006, 02:12
The headline was about us spending £110 million in January, not the summer. That was a headline a few days ago before todays headlines of what Lippi allegedly wants. Two different stories.

Jim are you refering to the headlines of "La gazzetta dello sport"?

If yes, you are not exactly right or the tranlation was not complete.

According the headline of La Gazzetta, Ronaldinho estimated 90 million euros in summer and the other players estimated 60 million euros in January. A total of 150 million euros investment.

But don't take these stories to serious.

There are many papers covering football in Italy, and to fill in all those pages everyday is not an easy job, so fantasy plays it part. :sagrin:

Today la gazzetta is saying that Milan are after Oddo and Iaquinta in the January market.

Graeme C
11-11-2006, 03:38
yeah gazzetta said something like "Milan calling SOS and are after Oddo and Iaquinta"

Jim_UK
11-11-2006, 05:16
I went off of the main headlines on 3 sites, Channel 4, Calciomercato and Gazzetta (or maybe it was Corriere, not sure, but it was the official site). All of them said the investment was 150 million euros which equals £110 million for January.

I only reported what i read and i never said i took it seriously.

arcy
11-11-2006, 07:14
If Oddo comes then it will close the doors to the arrival of Lippi and vice versa because of conflict of interest. It prohibits that a trainer can have in the roster a player 'assistito' from a relative. And Oddo's is Davide Lippi.

Graeme C
11-11-2006, 09:10
i dont understand that arcy, Cesare maldini fielded Paulo Maldini when he was coach here, lippi has already played Oddo in the world cup.. so i duno how it works out

Graeme C
11-11-2006, 09:51
Sports.it

Milan, Oddo e Iaquinta per gennaio

Il piano rinforzi del Milan prevede due fasi; la prima a gennaio, con Oddo e Iaquinta come obiettivi, la seconda la prossima estate, quando tornerà utile il lavoro che Braida sta svolgendo in Sudamerica.

Il dg rossonero stasera seguirà ancora il River Plate per Gonzalo Higuain, domani sarà alla "Bombonera" per il regista del Boca Fernando Gago, e intanto studia le numerose relazioni dei tanti osservatori della rete milanista dislocati in Sudamerica. La missione di Braida serve per definire gli obiettivi del prossimo mercato estivo, al di là della fattibilità dell'operazione Ronaldinho.

Intanto però è necessario lavorare sul breve termine per assicurare ad Ancelotti un paio di rinforzi per raddrizzare una stagione iniziata malissimo, e i nomi caldi sono sempre quelli di Massimo Oddo e Vincenzo Iaquinta.

Il primo era già stato vicinissimo al Milan lo scorso giugno, ma non se ne fece nulla per la rigidità di Lotito, che non era disposto a scendere sotto i 7 milioni. Ora però il discorso potrebbe riaprirsi, perchè il Milan ha più che mai necessità di un terzino in gradi di spingere, e la Lazio ha tutto l'interesse ad ammorbidire la propia posizione visto che Oddo ha il contratto in scadenza nel 2008 e Lotito va incontro al rischiuo di perderlo senza monetizzare alcunchè.

Fra l'altro in estate, nonostante fosse saltata la trattativa per Oddo, Galliani aveva comunque mandato Foggia in prestito ai biancocelesti (come da richiesta di Delio Rossi e Lotito), circostanza che consente a via Turati di vantare una sorta di credito nei confronti della Lazio. La sensazione è che questa volta l'accordo possa essere trovato, e che Oddo a gennaio possa sbarcare - o meglio, tornare, visto il passato nelle giovanili rossonere - a Milanello.

Più complicato arrivare a Vincenzo Iaquinta, che sia Ancelotti che la dirigenza considerano l'uomo giusto per variare gli schemi in attacco con un elemento che assicuri comunque peso. Il giocatore ha un patto con Pozzo per cui verrebbe lasciato libero di partire in caso di offerta da una grande, ma il club friulano preferirebbe venderlo in estate a bocce ferme piuttosto che a gennaio in piena bagarre, e i Pozzo difficilmente si accontenterebbero di cifre inferiori ai 12 milioni. La trattativa verrrà comunque intavolata, al Milan sperano che inserendo Borriello il prezzo possa scendere.

arcy
11-11-2006, 10:27
i dont understand that arcy, Cesare maldini fielded Paulo Maldini when he was coach here, lippi has already played Oddo in the world cup.. so i duno how it works out
I don't understand entirely either, but this one seems different - has to do with purchasing a player (?) and not with coaching directly. If Lippi comes to Milan, it's saying Oddo's purchase would not be possible because Oddo is an 'assistito' (client?) of Davide Lippi.

Con Lippi al Milan Oddo perderebbe il rossonero
L'avvento di Lippi al Milan però chiuderebbe di fatto le porte all'acquisto di Massimo Oddo. La nuova norma sul conflitto di interessi vieta infatti che un allenatore possa avere in rosa un giocatore assistito da un familiare. E Massimo Oddo è proprio assistito da Davide Lippi, il figlio del tecnico viareggino.
(tuttomercatoweb.com)

Graeme C
11-11-2006, 10:29
that is weird.. but we are still linking him with us


Rossoneri renew Oddo bid- channel4

With no real alternative to Marcos Cafu in the side, Milan are said to be kick-starting new negotiations for Massimo Oddo.

The World Cup-winning right-back was already in advanced talks for a summer move to the Rossoneri, but the deal collapsed at the last minute because Lazio refused to sell.


Oddo has now been given the captain’s armband at the Olimpico, but has made it clear he would relish a switch to San Siro, perhaps as early as January.


The 30-year-old’s contract expires in 2008 and he does not seem intent on a renewal, so a quick sale would be in Lazio’s interests.


The Calciopoli scandal ruled the Biancocelesti out of Europe this year, so Oddo would be eligible for the Champions League with Milan in the latter half of the season.


It’s reported that the Rossoneri have set aside a slush fund of £100m to be spent over the next two transfer sessions in order to revive their fortunes.


While a bulk of that is ready for a Ronaldinho swoop in the summer, more urgent matters require Oddo and a new striker.


Ex-Parma defender Daniele Bonera was brought in for that role, but has shown himself to be nowhere near as effective pushing forward as Cafu.

martin
11-11-2006, 10:33
100 m? thats a crazy amount. but i guess it will wind up costing around there if we plan on buying ronaldinho

Graeme C
11-11-2006, 10:57
not that crazy, if u think Ronaldinho is about £60 mill, if this is the case i would rather not get him, and spend £100 refreshing whole squad...

£40 mill on other reinforcements is a bit low... If you pay peanuts you get monkeys...

Think like

Amelia £10 mill? Buffon £22 mill
Zambrotta £8 mill
Barzagli £15 mill
Canani £5 mill

it would go so fast... but does the 100 mill include sheva money...

Sleep
11-11-2006, 11:27
P15M for Barzagli? too expensive I guess. And if we have amelia, we won't buy Buffon.

with me, P100M = Amelia + Barzagli + de jong + vaart + sneijder + lahm + alves <and I think there will be changes:D>

mrki
11-11-2006, 12:52
Barzagli is worth 15mil, he is super player. And I would do everything in my power to bring Buffon to Milan as that man is fantastic and has some good 4 years at this level in front of him. Zambrotta is also a super player as we all know it, but there could be a clause that enables him to transfer to an Italian club, like Juve did when they sold Zidane to Madrid.

rosoneri_11
11-11-2006, 13:35
100 m!Thats good news!But true???
If there are true i would like milan to buy these guys:

GK:Buffon 20m or Amelia 10
DC:Barzagli 15m
DR: Daniel Alves 15m
DL:Abidal 8m or Taiwo 5m
M:Ribery 15
ST:Huntelaar 15m or Torres 40m (f.... he is too expensive)
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So if we buy: Amelia,Barzagli,Alves,Taiwo,Ribery,Torres=100M!
If we buy: Buffon,Barzagli,Alves,Abidal,Ribery,Huntelaar=88M
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Thumose
11-11-2006, 15:10
Channel4 says Berlusconi talked to Sheva yesterday and claimed he wanted to come back to Milan..... nice......

Do i can't seem to see where on the page he uses those words....

http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/nov11k.html

Jim_UK
11-11-2006, 15:28
the article says that Shevchenko APPARENTLY phoned Berlusconi yesterday while Berlusconi was with a load of people ... they started singing "Sheva come back" and he is supposed to have said "Yes, i'd like that".

Truth? Very doubtful.

Political move by Berlusconi to offer us false hope should we lose tonight or not perform well? More than likely!

Thumose
11-11-2006, 15:29
Yeah... we need more than hope now...

Sleep
11-11-2006, 15:30
if Barzagli were 5 years younger, P15M would be fine.

hitmannq8
11-11-2006, 15:38
Kind of similar to the "Sheva wants London" quote by Berlusconi before he left. I will pray for this move to happen everyday till Sheva denies it himself.

mrki
11-11-2006, 15:57
I dont want Sheva back, he choose Chelsea, let him play there. We are Milan, even if we are loosing roght now, I dont want to see Berlusconi making fools out of Milan fans who begged him to stay! **** you Sheva.

vlado
11-11-2006, 23:41
I dont want Sheva back, he choose Chelsea, let him play there. We are Milan, even if we are loosing roght now, I dont want to see Berlusconi making fools out of Milan fans who begged him to stay! **** you Sheva.

Yeah,me needer...I'm not sure that he's going to play well...

ASHWIN
11-11-2006, 23:51
Goalkeepers (1st team-Buffon)
Sub- Amelia

Defence (1st team- Oddo, Bonera, Barzagli, Zambrotta)
Subs- Faubert, Lugano, Terlizzi, Kaladze

Midfield (1st team- Pirlo, Gattuso, Kaka, Sneijder)
Subs- Aquilani, De jong, Gourcuff, Diego, Ambrosini

Attack (1st team- Gilardino, Tevez)
Subs- Boriello, Sobis

I think it would cost slightly more than 100mil to build this squad. Still beats signing Ronaldinho. IMO

Sleep
12-11-2006, 01:32
Ashwin: Where is Nesta? Oddo and Zambrotta are good, but they are too old, and I hope we will have some young defenders. And De Jong is a defender as I know. Your squad won't cost more than 100M. We would only buy 1 of Buffon and Amelia. Zambrotta + oddo are old, so they are not too expensive. Barzagli for about 10M. In the midfield, Sneijder is not expensive though he is very good, Aquilani also <of course not as good as Sneijder:D>. Diego for about 10M too. In the attack, I don't think Sobis and Tevez will cost much now <I don't know how Tevez can play so poorly>. Very good squad, just some more young defender.

joumasepoes
12-11-2006, 02:42
Ashwin: Where is Nesta? Oddo and Zambrotta are good, but they are too old, and I hope we will have some young defenders. And De Jong is a defender as I know. Your squad won't cost more than 100M. We would only buy 1 of Buffon and Amelia. Zambrotta + oddo are old, so they are not too expensive. Barzagli for about 10M. In the midfield, Sneijder is not expensive though he is very good, Aquilani also <of course not as good as Sneijder:D>. Diego for about 10M too. In the attack, I don't think Sobis and Tevez will cost much now <I don't know how Tevez can play so poorly>. Very good squad, just some more young defender.
None of them would sign for us if there is no CHampions League for us. Unless maybe they get offerred a huge salary

ASHWIN
12-11-2006, 03:38
Ashwin: Where is Nesta? Oddo and Zambrotta are good, but they are too old, and I hope we will have some young defenders. And De Jong is a defender as I know. Your squad won't cost more than 100M. We would only buy 1 of Buffon and Amelia. Zambrotta + oddo are old, so they are not too expensive. Barzagli for about 10M. In the midfield, Sneijder is not expensive though he is very good, Aquilani also <of course not as good as Sneijder:D>. Diego for about 10M too. In the attack, I don't think Sobis and Tevez will cost much now <I don't know how Tevez can play so poorly>. Very good squad, just some more young defender.



There are rumours that Nesta wants a move back to Lazio. Besides he is old and he is not the same player he was 3 years ago. He is still a top class player. Maybe he can go to Lazio. De Jong is a versatile player. He can be Gattuso's back-up. He can also play in midfield. Zambrotta and Oddo are considered young by Milan's standards. Considering the fact that we field players between the age of 36-39 in defence. Zambrotta and Oddo can add some experience in the defence.

ASHWIN
12-11-2006, 03:40
None of them would sign for us if there is no CHampions League for us. Unless maybe they get offerred a huge salary



Milan will still remain as one of the top clubs in Europe even if they fail to qualify. It will be difficult to convince these players but not impossible.

Sleep
12-11-2006, 05:08
None of them would sign for us if there is no CHampions League for us. Unless maybe they get offerred a huge salary
I didn't mean to get new players in the next summer, I meant this JANUARY. I don't want to champion league without Milan next year.

rosoneri_11
12-11-2006, 07:52
We had a big problem on scoring!
Look at the top goal-scores at the moment!



Christian Rigano Messina 7
Adrian Mutu Fiorentina 5
Eugenio Corini Palermo 5
Igor Budan Parma 5
Carvalho De Oliveira Amauri Palermo 5
Cristiano Doni Atalanta 5
Rolando Bianchi Reggina 5
Mario Frick Siena 5
Francesco Totti Roma 4
Nicola Ventola Atalanta 4
Giorgio Corona Catania Calcio 4
Gionathan Spinesi Catania Calcio 4
David Di Michele Palermo 4
Dejan Stankovic Inter Milan 4
Hernán Crespo Inter Milan 4
Luca Toni Fiorentina 4
Vincenzo Iaquinta Udinese 4
Rodrigo Taddei Roma 3
Roberto Stellone Torino 3
Zlatan Ibrahimovic Inter Milan 3
Nicola Amoruso Reggina 3
Davide Suazo Cagliari 3
Fabio Quagliarella Sampdoria 3
Mark Bresciano Palermo 3
Tommaso Rocchi Lazio 3
Sergio Pellissier Chievo Verona 3
Luca Saudati Empoli 3
Gennaro Delvecchio Sampdoria 3
Tomas Danilevicius Livorno 3
Giuseppe Mascara Catania Calcio 3
Massimo Oddo Lazio 3
Emiliano Bonazzoli Sampdoria 3
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At this 32 players no one is from Milan!

Graeme C
12-11-2006, 08:04
its because Oliveira is rubbish, and we cant supply Gila and inzaghi.. its just depressing seing that..

Tony29.
12-11-2006, 08:04
We had a big problem on scoring!
Look at the top goal-scores at the moment....................
At this 32 players no one is from Milan
No doubt Milan has attacking and most of all scoring problems, but your list shouldn't necesserely be a prove for that.
When the group is above the individual, it usually happens the top scorers not to be from the best team(s).

Like with Italy on WC 2006. The best Italian scorers, Materazzi and Toni with 2 goals, weren't among the top 10 goal scorers on the WC, but Italy won the WC at the end !

rosoneri_11
12-11-2006, 08:43
Like with Italy on WC 2006. The best Italian scorers, Materazzi and Toni with 2 goals, weren't among the top 10 goal scorers on the WC, but Italy won the WC at the end !


I agree,but italia won the WC because of many reasons, one of them is that they played good football!
Milan doesn't even play good football!
I dont want milan to score 3 or 4 goals per game,
but i want them to play good football,to win, and i dont care if we win each game 1-0 or 2-1!
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From my list are 32 players from serie-a!Not the best 32 of all the championships of the world!
Its a shame to not have at least one player!

zZ[-_-]Zz
12-11-2006, 10:44
@ Tony29...

yeah Italy won the WC without a prolific striker/goal-scorer... but you must remember that they have scored at least a goal per match... and do not concede like Milan has been lately...