View Full Version : AEK vs. Milan, Tuesday 21st November
The next round of the CL is fast approaching and we are away to probably the weakest side in the group.
Will our 'bad luck' continue? Will we take the post hitting curse with us to Athens? Will AEK sense a victory? Now is the best chance they'll ever have of grabbing 3 points off of us.
A good result is vital in our attempts to boost confidence and gain the 1 point we need to assure qualification.
Lets hope memories of 1994 will spark our players into life and push them on to give a good performance.
:p283:
zZ[-_-]Zz
18-11-2006, 17:51
not expectin' much... just a draw... which is enough to gurantee us a spot into the knock-out stage...
rahul.acm
18-11-2006, 18:36
We defeated Barca 4-0 in this stadium in '94 :proud: . It is one of the few reasons why I respect Cappello. I hope Ancelotti, Tassoti, Costacurta and Maldini will gain some inspiration after visitng the stadium after 12 years. Hopefully we will return to Athens in May next year to rewrite history.
We have 2 more games in the CL including this. I hope to see the following line-up
Dida,
Janku, Simic, Bonera, Antonelli
Cafu, Brocchi, Ambrosini, Gourcuff
Oliviera, De Gennaro
Subs: Fiori, Maldini, Guerci, Seedorf, Inzaghi, Aubameyang, Borreillo.
Others can sit on the bench where they deserve to be. Kaka needs to be rested.
Boriello - Oliveira
Jankulovski - Gourcuff - Guerci - Brocchi
Antonelli - Maldini - Bonera - Simic
Dida
Dr Milano
19-11-2006, 05:29
Boriello - Oliveira
Jankulovski - Gourcuff - Guerci - Brocchi
Antonelli - Maldini - Bonera - Simic
Dida
whos antonelli ...
whos antonelli ...
youth team player (apparently left back) who was included in the first squad several times.
but his chances of getting minutes in the first team under ancelotti are somewhere near zero.
Lets not go overboard and play the complete youth team, we still need a point. We don't want to play Lille in the last match needing any kind of result. I would hope a semi-strong line up would be enough to see out most of this match and then i would use Guerci, Di Gennaro & Lunati/Abangeymang (i really should learn to spell his name) as subs. I would start with Antonelli though.
Lets not go overboard and play the complete youth team, we still need a point. We don't want to play Lille in the last match needing any kind of result. I would hope a semi-strong line up would be enough to see out most of this match and then i would use Guerci, Di Gennaro & Lunati/Abangeymang (i really should learn to spell his name) as subs. I would start with Antonelli though.
i don't know if you refer to tony or me but i think in both cases it's what we want to see, not what we expect. none of it will actually happen. carlo will play his standard team as usual. he is quite stubborn when it comes to this, sometimes i wish he would be more courageous and not only play it safe.
i think we already did qualify for the knock out stage. if we lose both games and lille and aek win both we still lie in second place on the same points as aek. they would have to win higer than 3:0 against us to win the direct encounter. i can't imagine that this will happen, no matter if we use 2-3 youngsters or not.
We need 1 point for automatic qualification. Relying on other results and assuming we won't be beaten by specific scorelines is both dangerous and slightly arrogant in assumption considering our current form.
We would also want to finish first in the group to help our chances of progression in the second round.
kastriot
19-11-2006, 08:57
Guys don`t forget we need to FIRST place in order to avoid the likes of Lyon,Chelsea,Arsenal,Man UTD...... iT WOULD BE GREAT TO WIN THIS GAME SO WE COULD HAVE THE FIRST PLACE RESERVED.
Maybe we could rest Kaka and Sedorf and give Gorky and Guerci a chance...
Oliveira must play..his starting to find himself lately
Kastriot has a point.. To win this game we have got 1st spot, and second we could get a bit of confidence.
But I also feel that it is time to give Kaka a rest.
Guys don`t forget we need to FIRST place in order to avoid the likes of Lyon,Chelsea,Arsenal,Man UTD......
Did you even read what i put in the post before you? I said exactly the same thing.
Pireloke
19-11-2006, 18:11
Avoid those or not, if we continue playing like this, we're out in the next round, we might even get humiliated... yeah, that's my pessimist side again, my optimist one sees Maldini lifting the Cup, but hey that side went to bed early today...
Anyway, for what it's worth here's my take : 0-1
rahul.acm
19-11-2006, 19:06
When our players know that their bottoms are on fire, they always come on the top. That is why we are so focussed during the knock out stages. I still feel that our chances of winning the UCL are as good as the best team. Whatever happens we have to take one step at a time and not say that we will get knocked in quarters or semis. This is a fragile situation for us and I am sure Carlo will take care of us.
Carlo should not let Kaka and Seedorf play as they are already tired of playing 90/game for the last two games in the span of 6 days. Both, Guerci and Antonelli have good chances of coming on as subs as Maldini and Seedorf will wear out by 60 minutes.
My line up:
Bonera-Simic-Maldini-Janku
Pirlo-Brocchi-Seedorf
Gorky
Oliviera-Gila
For this game and all the games I want Oliviera to play. He is very close to braking the deadlock and it might be the next game. Carlo knows it and I am sure he will listen to me. :w209:
Gourcuff must be positive for this game as he has payed very well against AEK at San Siro.
remote2book
19-11-2006, 20:30
hey guys..i was watching some videos of last years CL when we played against Lyon and byren munich and man it was great we practically killed those teams....and now looking at this year..with our bad luck in the SERIE A i just hope atleast the CL could be a way for our players to regain their confidence..which inshallah they will...and if we win this years CL..idk wat i will do..but hopefullly we take this as one game at a time and take da whole thing
Warro Bantan
20-11-2006, 10:30
ESPN, in their wisdom, will not be showing this match, so I hope Zlat/NAMMY et al kind find the links...
This game is important for us, confidence wise, as well as to ensure a slightly easier passage in the knock out stage.
Let us hope Kaka and Clarence get some rest.
Look for Pippo to start, having been on the bench for much of the Empoli game.
FORZA MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILAN!!
zlatanov
20-11-2006, 10:43
TLN in Canada is showing AEK-Milan on Tuesday ;) ... smarter than ESPN, I guess :)
There should be links for the game, guys, but don't count on too many given that Real-Lyon and especially the GB "derby" of Celtic-ManU are also on this Tuesday ... not to mention that Arsenal is also playing :(
Warro Bantan
20-11-2006, 10:52
Yeah, I hear u Zlat! But hey, these things happen! :(
And the usual headline at Football Italia... and of course Ancelotti pulls in Maldini on this one. We're in 17th place, guys, this Athens glory is going to be hallow if keep up this sad pace. You'll notice the line I bolded but I'll hold my tongue.
Ancelotti eyes Athens glory
Monday 20 November, 2006
Carlo Ancelotti is keen for Milan book their spot in the knockout phase of the Champions League against AEK Athens.
The Rossoneri are first in Group H with 10 points and are on the brink of qualification ahead of Tuesday’s match, despite their struggles in Serie A this term.
“We are not taking anything for granted, we still need one point to qualify and our objective is to do our best and stay in first place,” said Ancelotti before leaving for Athens.
“We want to play well and see some improvements on the field. We will leave our worries about the League behind us – the Champions League can help us regain serenity.
“Paolo Maldini said that this season reminds him of the one which ended with the Champions League victory in Manchester and I hope he is right.
“I am optimistic because I understand the group’s value, the players’ quality and the unity of the squad,” continued the tactician.
“We are still the first club in Europe, we have earned this leadership in the past five years and we want to keep it.
“In any case, the match in Athens will not be easy, they have improved a lot since the game on Matchday 1,” said Ancelotti, referring to the 3-0 win at the Stadio San Siro.
“I think we must continue what started with the step forward against Empoli. The standings don’t make me sad, instead the situation pushes me to find a solution to the problems that we have.”
Vice-President Adriano Galliani also believes that the Rossoneri are not going through a crisis and will soon return to winning ways in the championship.
“We have always done well in Europe and also in Italy. In the past season we earned 88 points and we were first in the European rankings,” explained Galliani.
“We are going through a difficult moment that I hope will finish soon. Milan aren’t in a crisis, I don’t understand why everyone is focusing on the recent games.
“Certainly we aren’t satisfied with the season, but there is no reason to talk about a crisis because there isn’t one.
“Europe remains our first objective, in addition to reaching one of the top four places in Serie A and going as far as possible in every competition,” concluded the former Lega Calcio chief.
Warro Bantan
20-11-2006, 14:13
Galliani is doing an ostritch...but at least we are playing well...just not scoring..good ploy though Debs, u have to admit, in bringing out Maldini!
rahul.acm
20-11-2006, 21:26
..........
Yes, there are three Greek channels on Sopcast showing the match but apparently none of them are working yet.
http://myp2p.eu/Matches/Match4.htm
Anyways, Zlat will provide further details.
Egoistka
20-11-2006, 21:36
2 years ago in UEFA Zenit won against AEK 5:1. So i guess Milan has all the chances to repeat this success, even being in a bad shape.
ESPN, in their wisdom, will not be showing this match, so I hope Zlat/NAMMY et al kind find the links...
This game is important for us, confidence wise, as well as to ensure a slightly easier passage in the knock out stage.
Let us hope Kaka and Clarence get some rest.
Look for Pippo to start, having been on the bench for much of the Empoli game.
FORZA MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILAN!!
in my area espn 2 has showed every milan game so far in the champions league. its weird that you are not getting the games!
We need 1 point for automatic qualification.
Actually, even a defeat by less than 3 goals is enough for Milan for an automatic qualification.
I can see odds rising on Milan win, because people know this and bet against Milan. I have a different opinion and i think Milan won't take this match for granted and will go for the 3 points which will guarantee the 1st place no matter what happens tonight in Lille or in the next round.
Odds are allready 2.00 (1/1), they started at 1.60 , and they are still going up.
I'd appreciate if you can tell me what do u really think about the final outcome, since you know Milan the best. But please try to be objective :)
Thanx !
official: dida-simic-billy-bonera-maldini-pirlo-brocchi-seedorf-kaka-pippo-oliveira
Is that clown Carlo really gone mad??? Kaka' again?? No Gourcuff, Seedorf again?! WHY? When Kaka' gets injured in stupid matches like this one, then the "unluck" factor will be on the headlines, again. I would call it "unsmart" factor that Milan has problems with, luck has nothing to do with bad managing.
I would keep Seedorf in but play Gourcuff instead of Kaka. He really needs a rest, I couldn't give less of a damn about who is the leading goalscorer in the CL right now, we need Kaka!
Can Bonera play on the left?? I dont think so...having so few options of players to play on the left, Carlo has put a player that wont have any positve effect on the game! but i hope im wrong
Maybe Maldini will play as a LB? He did it against Inter.
King tiger
21-11-2006, 14:26
I cant beleive this, Kaka played every game for us+ he played almost all friendlies for Brasil, even the one vs. Kuwait.He needs to rest.
Egoistka
21-11-2006, 14:38
Forza Milan! Hopefully we will win this match...as it is very important for us to gain confidence! I hope Gilardino, RO and Inzahi all will score - they need it more then anyone else :)
Bresciano
21-11-2006, 14:40
I think it's a 3-5-2
Gourcuff is playing i just saw him on the pitch
zlatanov
21-11-2006, 14:47
Gorky is playing at Right Mid (gattuso's place) and Brocchi is at RB.
Bonera is at LB
Graeme C
21-11-2006, 15:03
watching the game, think Sorrentino wouldnt be a bad backup for us.. Doesnt look bad!
Inzaghi just missed a great great chance!
Welcome to Greece all of you.
Lyon is raping Madrid again! :D
zlatanov
21-11-2006, 15:08
Milan is missing chances by the ton - Pippo could have had a hattrick by now. RO is quite impressive with his shots and runs.
Forza Milaaaaan !!!!!!!!!!!
And Sorrentino is raping us! He denied Pippo again!
Inzaghi again does a good job to somehow get to the ball but this keeper is saving everything so far.
Unfortunately, i couldnt go to fuc..ing because i had much work to do.
zlatanov
21-11-2006, 15:11
And Sorrentino is raping us! He denied Pippo again!
there have been rumours that Milan are after him to replace Kalac. After this game those rumours are gonna get stronger I guess ;)
Yes Sorentino saved three tet a tet of Pippo, we also had two other great chances to score.
kastriot
21-11-2006, 15:13
there have been rumours that Milan are after him to replace Kalac. After this game those rumours are gonna get stronger I guess ;)
he seems really good
kastriot
21-11-2006, 15:17
Lyon is raping real even more, 0 - 2 by now
Why did Dida move left ????
This goal is his mistake !
Excattly, Achelotti said in the press that Milan is not interested for Sorentino and he by sure got motivated because he wants to return to Italy.
kastriot
21-11-2006, 15:20
milan one down,nice goal by AEK
I wonder if it took a deflection, I couldn't really see. If it didn't then it is totally Dida's fault as that was his side to guard and he assumed that the ball is going to go on the wall's side. Big mistake.
That's what happens when you have the chances we had and we didn't score them. We got punished!
milan one down,nice goal by AEK
Yes, the goal was nice, but there wasn't a chance this ball to go in if Dida didn't make that silly move on his left side. They scored on Dida's side !
We missed how many goals? 6 or 7 so from free kick we are behind.
I wonder if it took a deflection, I couldn't really see. If it didn't then it is totally Dida's fault as that was his side to guard and he assumed that the ball is going to go on the wall's side. Big mistake.
That's what happens when you have the chances we had and we didn't score them. We got punished!
Agree, esp. when you have been playing so much better than the other side yet you are one-nil down.
I mean... who can you blame? Inzaghi missing so many easy chances... there are no excuses.
Warro Bantan
21-11-2006, 15:23
ahh well....this season gets longer and longer...when will it end?
kastriot
21-11-2006, 15:23
Yes, the goal was nice, but there wasn't a chance this ball to go in if Dida didn't make that silly move on his left side. They scored on Dida's side !
I agree 100% with you...
Pirlo is not going forward, and Seedorf is so slow - Icant describe it.
Pirlo is not going forward, and Seedorf is so slow - Icant describe it.
This I disagree. Pirlo has been playing well in my opinion, while Seedorf is slow but he is not losing the ball. The team is palying much better than when they play against Empoli.
I haven't even seen Seedorf play to say the truth.
Oliveira on the other hand is getting more and more impressive game by game.
No, i disagree with you, we are not superb but far better from them. The free-kick must have passed through our players in the wall.
Graeme C
21-11-2006, 15:28
our problem is still that we are not converting out chances, we shouldnt have to have penalties to win games, overall gameplay and tactics.. this is what we are missing!
There was an argument between Paolo, Seedorf and Pirlo because after the goal we are awful.
I quarantee to you if you see how many chanses we lost you will get frustrated.
our problem is still that we are not converting out chances, we shouldnt have to have penalties to win games, overall gameplay and tactics.. this is what we are missing!
This sounds like Ancelotti doesn't make his job well
Unlike Gilardino or Oliveria, Inzaghi had the chanceS, but he didn't score... multiple 1vs1.... and it's truly embarrassing how he did not score on those situations....
Graeme C
21-11-2006, 15:34
yeah i agree jeff, they were pretty easy chances for a player of his standard...
King tiger
21-11-2006, 15:35
Did our defence did well?
That's what happens when you have the chances we had and we didn't score them. We got punished!
Over and over again!!!
I was just sarcastic after 3rd pippo try, saying to my sister - We can now hit a bar once and then concede. Creepy...
This sounds like Ancelotti doesn't make his job well
I disagree. Before the goal, Milan has clear gameplan. Attack through the flank; and both Bonera and Gourky have been very active. After the goal, all passing has gone horrendous... what happened?
And you expect that players be disappointed, won't you? Milan has clear CLEAR crystal CLEAR chances to score and they didn't; while AEK scored from a free-kick that I don't even know why the ref. blew the whistle in the first place.
Inzaghi gotta take a lot of blame for the dilemma that Milan is in now. Same for Dida.
Graeme C
21-11-2006, 15:36
maybe bring Gila on, i didnt expect a whitewash, but it would be embarrasing to lose again tonight :(
There is no use of saying it again and again but......after we make first 3 or 4 passes, we dont have concrete plan or trained combinations with position swapping. Our fullbacks are Brocchi and Bonera and we want to win CL??
Did our defence did well?
Standard overall. AEK seldom threatened with a few long shot that Dida could save comfortably.
Unlike Gilardino or Oliveria, Inzaghi had the chanceS, but he didn't score... multiple 1vs1.... and it's truly embarrassing how he did not score on those situations....
that doesn't make it any better does it? the score is still 1:0 the problem is we can't score after so many chances and this little teams are scoring from just one chance they get we should learn from them
Egoistka
21-11-2006, 15:37
I cant believe it!!! :wow: :wow: :wow: We were supposed to have 4 goals lead...how come that we are actually losing 1:0? I dont think that Milan will be able to play as they did in the first 20 minutes of the first half...they ll be tired, because they gave away so much strength. Damn Inzaghi! He had to score 3 times!
There is no use of saying it again and again but......after we make first 3 or 4 passes, we dont have concrete plan or trained combinations with position swapping. Our fullbacks are Brocchi and Bonera and we want to win CL??
I saw there were, at least before the AEK goal. Milan were clearly the better team, in terms of both defense, and attack (but guess what, not the finishing!).
Bonera sent in a wonderful cross to Inzaghi didn't you see? with him always on the left flank going up almost for the entire first half with some decent cross today. I'm satisfied with him.
Brocchi is not even supposed to play at RB; Cafu got injured. And he didn't play bad either. I don't know how you can easily pick on them.
this little teams are scoring from just one chance they get we should learn from them
Why don't you call up Inzaghi and tell him that? ;)
Egoistka
21-11-2006, 15:39
the score is still 1:0 the problem is we can't score after so many chances and this little teams are scoring from just one chance they get we should learn from them
That is so much true...the whole half we were atacking and they had just a couple of chances and scored.
King tiger
21-11-2006, 15:39
Well thats the risk of having pippo in team, he can score from nothing in 3-d minute of extra time in a important game, but he can also miss clear chances vs. weak teams.
I cant believe it!!! :wow: :wow: :wow: We were supposed to have 4 goals lead...how come that we are actually losing 1:0? I dont think that Milan will be able to play as they did in the first 20 minutes of the first half...they ll be tired, because they gave away so much strength. Damn Inzaghi! He had to score 3 times!
NO Inzaghi is FINE! Just keep the poster boy Gila off and Inzaghi'll score! yah!
Yes Milan would be tired. Better scored at the 45th - 60th minutes.
Warro Bantan
21-11-2006, 15:40
This side is finished. Face it Berlu, Carlo, and Galliani...we need a new striker or several, new midfielders, new defenders...and a new goalie or several...
I am sooooo sick of this...inept display..inept...thats what we are...inept...ridiculous...and profligate.
We can stop blaming refs, penalty points, yadda yadda yadda...we really should just focus on getting a UCL spot for next season, and just play the primavera in the UCL...because we WONT win with these players. Its obvious we wont make it past the first real team we face...
Graeme C
21-11-2006, 15:41
I saw there were, at least before the AEK goal. Milan were clearly the better team, in terms of both defense, and attack (but guess what, not the finishing!).
Bonera sent in a wonderful cross to Inzaghi didn't you see? with him always on the left flank going up almost for the entire first half with some decent cross today. I'm satisfied with him.
Brocchi is not even supposed to play at RB; Cafu got injured. And he didn't play bad either. I don't know how you can easily pick on them.
yeah Bonera is more settled as a Left back i think...
This is a scenario that I saw at least 3 times. Pirlo has the ball right at the half way line in their half of the field. He looks up and almost everything is static. Both forwards standing on the edge of the half like they are awaiting a cross and none of them pulls out wide to spread the back line and create space.
Seedorf is just playing for no reason I guess while Inzaghi is missing everything that came his way. That is a problem at the moment as none of the forwards can finish great, although it seems that Pippo gets a lot more chances then the rest of them.
For the second half.......I wish Cafu/Janku will come on for Seedorf and push Brocchi in Pirlo's place pushing Pirlo in Seedorf's spot in an advanced position. We have to finish our chances. I have a feeling Oliveira will score as he has been playing good.
Well thats the risk of having pippo in team, he can score from nothing in 3-d minute of extra time in a important game, but he can also miss clear chances vs. weak teams.
yeah it's weird how he scores from almost impossible situations and the easy one he misses
yeah it's weird how he scores from almost impossible situations and the easy one he misses
Some players are like that though... so send in some difficult opportunities and he'll score :)
Lille-Anderlecht 2:2...2 goals in 30 secundes :)
Lille up 2-1
Janku in
Edit: Wow, I'm late :)
I cant believe it!!! :wow: :wow: :wow: We were supposed to have 4 goals lead...how come that we are actually losing 1:0? I dont think that Milan will be able to play as they did in the first 20 minutes of the first half...they ll be tired, because they gave away so much strength. Damn Inzaghi! He had to score 3 times!
hahahahahahahahaha ... come on Oksana, why on earth should we have a 4 goal lead by now? Were we entitled to one? Because if we were someone clearly forgot to tell the AEK players. Each game is individual and just because your Zenit St. Petersburg side scored 4 against them, doesn't mean we will.
I hope Carlo is giving them both barrels and a couple of extra ones too and telling them that losing to one of the weakest sides in the CL is not an option.
Anyway, i'm sure we'll still get the point we need :5ok:
Janku on for Costacurta. Bonera'll probably shift to CB
Graeme C
21-11-2006, 15:54
what the hell is inzaghi doing? he had a good cross from jank?
How many we have the last three games? 6 woodworks?
King tiger
21-11-2006, 15:58
What did he do now?Dribbled passed the goalie and then kicked the ball into woodwork?
and so my prediction is complete... woodwork was still missing.
How many we have the last three games? 6 woodworks?
12 in 13 games I guess? We are on top of that in Europe that's for sure.
Graeme C
21-11-2006, 15:59
are the goals bigger at the training ground or something?
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
.COM has some nice little photos of kaka waltzing past a few aek players :grinser:
It was a cross from the left he tiped the ball between the defender and the goalie but it stopped in the woodwork.
i will kill you Jim :devf:
hehehe .... couldn't resist :D
Seedorf just shot down a 747
kastriot
21-11-2006, 16:07
That was agreat save by dida
Dida just saved our a$$es... i though it was 2-0 for sure
Dida made an extraordinary save AEK fu...ing Athens apply for the second, he is now injured in knee, the game has stopped.
amazing save by Dida, who is now receiving treatment....
most people do Vadim ... though it's a bit harsh to tell me that :eek:
and now he's hurt...
can we buy sorrentino in the middle of the match, or is that not allowed these days?
ow no, Kalac is warming up
i lost the picture in second half. Are we even presing for the goal or what?
Graeme C
21-11-2006, 16:09
get him after, offer them kalac :)
most people do Vadim ... though it's a bit harsh to tell me that :eek:
maybe i should have added a smilie face :D
bte gooooaaaaalllll.com isn't a valid url anyway :devf:
Warro Bantan
21-11-2006, 16:10
Well, the only good thing about this loss, is that it might make some people in management wake up...I feel like I am watching Modena parading in red and black kits...ridiculous.
I leave you.... i cant see more that stuff, my team PAOK didnt lost against them and we had many problems (Injuries and other things).
how many loses they need to wake up? that is the question....
I know it won't change anything for you guys (nor for my stupid bet), but if the results stay as they are ( Milan lose 1:0 and Lille-Anderlecht 2:2) Milan will qulify for the 1/8 finals as winner of the group ( because of the better h2h with AEK)
Graeme C
21-11-2006, 16:13
thats my point... we cant go on the way we are...
Borrriello in for Oliveira
maybe we should put Gila in do you think that'll change something?
its 61-39 in ball possession
but if you dont do anything when you have the ball, possession is worth spit
wow he put Boriello and not Gila this is really weird
you lot have no faith ... we will score :D
Graeme C
21-11-2006, 16:16
thats ancelloti for u
Warro Bantan
21-11-2006, 16:17
Now we have Boriello on for Olivera....what a joke...we have basically just lost the game. GReat.
Thanks management! Thanks Carlo!!! What a change! What foresight! what vision! What a joke!
you lot have no faith ... we will score :D
i hope so :)
kastriot
21-11-2006, 16:18
how many loses they need to wake up? that is the question....
I would say couple more,till we are in relegation risk,maybe than they will react..
Even if they react what can they do exept sacking CARLO...nothing
wtf are they doing, they are just ticking the ball round like we are a goal ahead
kastriot
21-11-2006, 16:20
Thaat was great gesture by Seedorf
this is getting sadly hilarious... seedorf gets a yellow for pretending to be the ref
i think they he was just playing charades, but that ref is just so serious!
seedorf shows the referee how to count 10 yards.
Ref shows him the yellow card.
Another joke.
kastriot we are already in risk of relegation, one look at the table can tell anyone that.
AEK is playing like Empoli right now, while Milan is playing like Perugia.
that's an insult to perugia :rolleyes:
Warro Bantan
21-11-2006, 16:23
I am literally in tears...this is absoloute #$%&#$%#.
Jankulovski or Brocchi will get a goal :5ok:
kastriot
21-11-2006, 16:24
kastriot we are already in risk of relegation, one look at the table can tell anyone that.
I know that Jim, but lets be realistic,we are better than that,but if we continue like this,than I`ll be worried
this is getting hilarious if the injury of Dida is serious than we're really screwed
Graeme C
21-11-2006, 16:27
i would fire Ancelloti, we need someone to motivate us out of this rut where in..
i would fire Ancelloti
Never gonna work...
IMo we're actually not playing that badly..our finishing just sucks some serious nuts.
Graeme C
21-11-2006, 16:28
Never gonna work...
if were going to continue losing were going to go down, more we lose, harder it will be to get into a winning mentality
you're right Kastriot, we are better than that ... but you have to realise that just because we think we are better doesn't give us a right to avoid relegation or a relagation battle.
Another thing is that how many of our squad are ready to battle for serie A survival? Our team are used to playing at the top of the league, not the bottom.
we are not playing that bad, but we aren't dangerous also
if were going to continue losing were going to go down, more we lose, harder it will be to get into a winning mentality
And by bringing another coach will get into a winning mentality?
IN my opinion, ask our strikers to score some easy goals, and the winnning mentality is back.
Graeme C
21-11-2006, 16:33
yeah i do :P someone needs to give this team a kick up the ass, ancelloti cant do that..
We could play games for hours, and gila, inzaghi wont score...
surely getting the strikers to score a goal or two is just glossing over the cracks.
the side is in need of fresh ideas, fresh players, more hunger and more quality in all areas ...
I don't think another coach will suddenly make Inzaghi, Gilardino score
wasted my whole afternoon~ :)
at least it's not Gilardino's fault :delol:
And by bringing another coach will get into a winning mentality?
IN my opinion, ask our strikers to score some easy goals, and the winnning mentality is back.
Exactly. It must be so demoralizing to the other players to see such easy chances squandered by their teammates
kastriot
21-11-2006, 16:36
you're right Kastriot, we are better than that ... but you have to realise that just because we think we are better doesn't give us a right to avoid relegation or a relagation battle.
Another thing is that how many of our squad are ready to battle for serie A survival? Our team are used to playing at the top of the league, not the bottom.
I dont know weather they are ready or not,but with the money they are getting they`d better be or... :5horse:
at least it's not Gilardino's fault :delol:
oh trust me i'm sure with all the haters on the board, they'll find a way to blame him :5nana:
devoted_dm
21-11-2006, 16:38
Full time! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRGGHHHHHHH!!!!!
Graeme C
21-11-2006, 16:40
Full time! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRGGHHHHHHH!!!!!
tell me about it, its just getting more depressing per game this year...
King tiger
21-11-2006, 16:40
well look on the bright side, our sponsor bwin made some serious money today
this is so bad.
oh trust me i'm sure with all the haters on the board, they'll find a way to blame him :5nana:
Of course! I just got a phone call from Gila's girlfriend that Gila couldn't play today because he was talking on the phone ith INzaghi for the whole night. Inzaghi didn't get any sleep and so he didn't score today. As simple as THAT!
Did we just win the group? :D
hitmannq8
21-11-2006, 16:42
so were we unlucky again? when will the stupid fking management open their eyes?
tell me about it, its just getting more depressing per game this year...
For the past few games basically, you see MIlan started as the stronger side, and then the other team will just score one goal and the whole team was like.. :v408: :v408: :v408:
Now I agree with those GIla-haters. Yes, it's the strikers' faults. No one else.
Inzaghi gotta take 90% responsibility for today's loss, while Dida the other 10%.
King tiger
21-11-2006, 16:42
Yeah, lets hang Gila.
so were we unlucky again? when will the stupid fking management open their eyes?
I don't know. 12 woodwork in 13 games. One today actually... I mean... I'm not sure if this is unlucky or not... you count.
oh trust me i'm sure with all the haters on the board, they'll find a way to blame him :5nana:
haha, yeah you're right there :D
I think you're right Xudong, we lost but won the group ... so everything's alright :delol:
Now I feel lucky that we were put into this group. :D
This season has turned out to be a joke. All the worst thing happen on the same team... what's the odd :)
I hate Gila. As a part of the team, he couldn't be up there playing this important match and helping the team. I hate him. :D
remote2book
21-11-2006, 16:46
all i have to say is ......................... no clue wat to say...Graeme C is rite...every game i watch us play i get more depressed da coaches and team keeps saying dat we will get through this but i dk guys...chamipons league was dao nlt ting to look forward but this.....for any1 who watched the game...DID U SEE HOW MANY CHANCES INZAGHI HAD..i mean wow...as much as i like inzaghi..he shold have easily scored atleast twice..and again one hit the post ..watever idk wat to say
Warro Bantan
21-11-2006, 16:47
Sacking Carlo is not the issue here...its the lack of quality in several key positions: Goalkeeper: Dida makes too many mistakes, despite all the good saves he makes
Defense: Too old, needs to be refreshed
Midfield: Not enough attacking options
Strikers/Forwards: Not enough muscle, nor enough finesse, nor enough pace.
We need to rebuild. No time like January to start the process...if Galliani et al continue with this: We dont need new players crap...I think I will throw up.
King tiger
21-11-2006, 16:47
I wonder what will ACMilan.com write?
At least we are through to the last 16.
I wonder what will ACMilan.com write?
"Not a crisis" lol OR "Milan Qualfified (.... despite loss)"
But tbh Warro, if Inzaghi has taken just 1 chance out of those that he had, I bet the result of todays' game will be very very very different.
Graeme C
21-11-2006, 16:50
we have complete faith in Warro Bantan.. :P
wtf i would s(u/a)ck carlo too. Issue or not, it cannot get worse right? So maybe it would get better? Maybe the real issue of not scoring would be saved with new coach!
Ah not, lets just stay with carlo, play with same players same style same tactics and draw and loose some more games. We're just unlucky...
Graeme C
21-11-2006, 16:51
at this rate we will need a new squad :S
King tiger
21-11-2006, 16:52
We should sacrifice this season nad play all our future games with 7 primavera players + kaka, dida, pirlo, gattuso
rosoneri_11
21-11-2006, 16:52
Hy guys i just returned from a cafe bar here at greece were i saw the game and i want to express my feelings!
What i can say?Its a shame to milan to loose from aek wich is a horrible team!I hate Greek championship because they dont play good football and the soccer here sucks!I hate greek teams because they are not TEAMS!
And after this 1-0 lost, what i can say its just SHAME,SHAME,SHAME!
I cant believe this!We lost from nowheres!!!
MILAN SUCKS!
ya; actually sacking the coach may help. Look at Sheffield wednesday. They won 5 games in a row after the coach got sacked (but lost last game 3-1 to Coventry :()
MILAN SUCKS!
:rr30: That's Inter's attitude.
Pireloke
21-11-2006, 16:54
It's getting worse every match, once I proudly wore my shirt on the street, now it's in the laundry and I wash it for the ninth time... because if I wear it now and I see one funny smile in my direction I'm going to smash someone's head off. Can't risk doing that.
rosoneri_11
21-11-2006, 16:55
At least we are through to the last 16.
With that performance i dont even care if we qualified to the final!We sucked again and again as a team!
Its a shame to loose fro AEK!
zlatanov
21-11-2006, 16:55
Did we just win the group? :D
the funny thing is that we did win the group with a loss - we are through at first place no matter what happens next round.
I hate Gila. As a part of the team, he couldn't be up there playing this important match and helping the team. I hate him. :D
he could have at least sneak past Carlo and the 4th official and sit by the touch line for some moral support :guw:
Warro Bantan
21-11-2006, 16:55
Well, the other result in the group has gone our way...so we still top the group with 10 points...so there is still hope left...its just that I dont feel any right now...plus, its raining in JA now..so no sunshine...
rosoneri_11
21-11-2006, 16:57
:rr30: That's Inter's attitude.
Maybe yes!But me not!I'am angry today with that performance!
I cant believe we lost from AEK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe yes!But me not!I'am angry today with that performance!
I cant believe we lost from AEK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Everyone is angry, and I of course understand, because I'm unhappy too. But phrases like "we are loser" or "milan sucks" are trademarked (tm) by Inter fans :)
King tiger
21-11-2006, 16:59
It's getting worse every match, once I proudly wore my shirt on the street, now it's in the laundry and I wash it for the ninth time... because if I wear it now and I see one funny smile in my direction I'm going to smash someone's head off. Can't risk doing that.
Well , ima angry at the team , and our management, coz of our poor results, but i will proudly wear my Milan shirt.
Egoistka
21-11-2006, 17:00
hahahahahahahahaha ... come on Oksana, why on earth should we have a 4 goal lead by now? Were we entitled to one? Because if we were someone clearly forgot to tell the AEK players. Each game is individual and just because your Zenit St. Petersburg side scored 4 against them, doesn't mean we will.
I hope Carlo is giving them both barrels and a couple of extra ones too and telling them that losing to one of the weakest sides in the CL is not an option.
Anyway, i'm sure we'll still get the point we need :5ok:
Zenit scored 5..not 4. But it doesn't matter...I said that Milan had to be 4 goals in the lead because they had at least 4 clear chances, where Inzaghi failed to shoot inside the goal. The ball found the goalkeeper. And AEK had one good chance and scored. That is why.
Anyway..:(
At least we qualify anyway, whatever we do in the next match with Lille. So those are the good news.
Damn..Kaka played sh**! When he shot from almost a middle of the field, the commentator on SKY said that he probably hoped that the goalkeeper would faint because of this shot. So stupid. Oh..I have nothing else to say, I am very dissapointed with Milan.
the story of this season We were better but we couldn't score, if we don't do anything in january we'll be really screwed and we have to sack Carlo at the end of the season because there is not point in bringing new coach now he can't do anything with this players.
we should have a fresh start in june new coach, new players and we'll be competitive again
zlatanov
21-11-2006, 17:01
Everyone is angry, and I of course understand, because I'm unhappy too. But phrases like "we are loser" or "milan sucks" are trademarked (tm) by Inter fans :)
word to this ... and if you, rosoneri_11, continue to use those expressions, we all risk seeing MM go offline for copy rights infringment :D
rosoneri_11
21-11-2006, 17:01
I cant believe we lost from from AEK!!!!!!!!!
I remember milan as the best teams on the world!
And when i compared milan with greek teams i always laugh or
say bad things to my friends for them and to not support them because there is no reason to be a Olympiakos,or AEK fan!
But now what?????
Warro Bantan
21-11-2006, 17:02
We havent won the group...we still have Lille to play...so we still need to beat them, or earn a draw, to ensure that we top the group at the end of this stage...
And the way we are playing...I dont think we will...but...
FORZA MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILAN!!!!
zlatanov
21-11-2006, 17:03
I cant believe we lost from from AEK!!!!!!!!!
I remember milan as the best teams on the world!
And when i compared milan with greek teams i always laugh or
say bad things to my friends for them and to not support them because there is no reason to be a Olympiakos,or AEK fan!
But now what?????
well, now you just have to be more polite with your friends :p231: :grinser:
zlatanov
21-11-2006, 17:04
We havent won the group...we still have Lille to play...so we still need to beat them, or earn a draw, to ensure that we top the group at the end of this stage...
And the way we are playing...I dont think we will...but...
FORZA MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILAN!!!!
no, warro, we have won the group. The only team that can reach us in terms of points is AEK - they have 7pts now, Lille has 6pts - but we have superior goal dif in the direct games vs AEK, so next game is only for the stats
Egoistka
21-11-2006, 17:04
We havent won the group...we still have Lille to play...so we still need to beat them, or earn a draw, to ensure that we top the group at the end of this stage...
And the way we are playing...I dont think we will...but...
FORZA MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILAN!!!!
No, actually whatever happens we qualify...
word to this ... and if you, rosoneri_11, continue to use those expressions, we all risk seeing MM go offline for copy rights infringment :D
:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:
no, warro, we have won the group. The only team that can reach us in terms of points is AEK - they have 7pts now, Lille has 6pts - but we have superior goal dif in the direct games vs AEK
Goal difference = 8 @@"
zlatanov
21-11-2006, 17:08
Goal difference = 8 @@"
not sure what that meant, jeff, but just to clarify my previous post - if two teams end up with equal points, it's the goal diff in DIRECT games that would determine the winner between Milana and possibly AEK, which is Milan given the result in the first game at San Siro
weeeeeeeee are the champions my friend ..... and we'll keep on fighting 'till the end ...... we are the champions we are the champions ... no time for losers (inter :D) 'cos we are the champions .... of the world :proud:
not sure what that meant, jeff, but just to clarify my previous post - if two teams end up with equal points, it's the goal diff in DIRECT games that would determine the winner between Milana and possibly AEK, which is Milan given the result in the first game at San Siro
Zlat was faster than me this time !
I can only confirm this !!! Milan is first placed, even if Lille wins next match and AEK beats Anderlecht 100000000 :0
Egoistka
21-11-2006, 17:09
not sure what that meant, jeff, but just to clarify my previous post - if two teams end up with equal points, it's the goal diff in DIRECT games that would determine the winner between Milana and possibly AEK, which is Milan given the result in the first game at San Siro
Yeah...coz we won 3:0 against AEK at home
rosoneri_11
21-11-2006, 17:10
well, now you just have to be more polite with your friends :p231: :grinser:
HA!HA!Thats real black hummor!
Well my friends after the match was joking with me and milan!!!!!It was awful!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:
I still cant believe this!We lost from an stupid team!!!
We had to relised that milan need many good players good
coach and another tactical system!
I dont trust anymore seedorf,pirlo,oliveira,gila,maldini,costacurta,bonera,boriello,jankulofski,kalac,simic,..........
zlatanov
21-11-2006, 17:11
Zlat was faster than me this time !
Tony, I am always faster than you ... well, with one exception that is :5nana: :grinser:
Egoistka
21-11-2006, 17:14
HA!HA!Thats real black hummor!
Well my friends after the match was joking with me and milan!!!!!It was awful!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:
I still cant believe this!We lost from an stupid team!!!
We had to relised that milan need many good players good
coach and another tactical system!
I dont trust anymore seedorf,pirlo,oliveira,gila,maldini,costacurta,bonera,boriello,jankulofski,kalac,simic,..........
Well, it is painful, but considering Milan's shape now...we could have predicted this loss. Although, Pirlo, Seedorf, RO, Maldini and Juncu played not bad. That was mostly Inzaghi who did not score where he had to score, and maybe that mistake by Dida, when we considered the goal (though if it was not for Dida later on, we d consider a lot more goals)...
there is not point in bringing new coach now he can't do anything with this players.
Hard to agree here, i believe most of our players have enough quality to form a fearsome squad. Maybe not top, but still way better than the current situation...
Egoistka
21-11-2006, 17:16
Hard to agree here, i believe most of our players have enough quality to form a fearsome squad. Maybe not top, but still way better than the current situation...
yeah...I dont think that we should really blame players here. Carlo cannot give anything to Milan anymore...he gave it all, he needs to go for good.
How much of these negative results are because of poor play or bad luck? When it rains it pours. The scandal affected us and our transfers this summer were mediocre (for those of you waiting of Olivera, he is the incarnation of Denilson, remember him?
Most of the people of this forum didn't want Ibra, a player who was Serie A ready and is a far better forward than the ones we got. Not that its was up to us to get Ibra, but we should have gotten him. Gallas was a prospect what happened?
Enough retrospect.
This is what I forsee will happen after this season if these results continue. Unless we win the CL, our best player Kaka is gone to RM. Carlo is gone and the team will go through rebuilding.
So my fellow devout Rossoneri, understand that some teams go through cycles. We suffered in 97/98, 00/01. But we recovered.
I still believe that our poor results this season are down bad luck. And I still believe this team is capable of turning this ship around
I still cant believe this!We lost from an stupid team!!!
i feel you. **** happens, i still have nightmares bc of that CL finals... just go to bad and try to forget. You will eventually.
Tony, I am always faster than you ... well, with one exception that is :5nana: :grinser:
Me and my little, slow, grey cells :(
Didn't get your point about "with one exception, that is" ! ( after this, a smiley meaning "ashamed" should have followed, but it looks like there isn't one on MM. Please borow one from forza-inter )
zlatanov
21-11-2006, 17:20
Hard to agree here, i believe most of our players have enough quality to form a fearsome squad. Maybe not top, but still way better than the current situation...
even harder to agree with this - half of our players are either injured or playing with injuries - Janku, Cafu, Nesta - cause the coach doesn't have a choice.
The rest, the healthy ones, due to so many absences and lack of alternative solution within the squad, are forced to play a whole game every 3 days and that's in a post-WCup season when most of our key players had little time to rest and the calciopolli scandal made it even shorter by forcing Milan to prepare in 2 weeks for the CL qualifiers.
Do you really believe that these factors haven't affected our season so far and will continue to affect it.
zlatanov
21-11-2006, 17:22
Me and my little, slow, grey cells :(
Didn't get your point about "with one exception, that is" ! ( after this, a smiley meaning "ashamed" should have followed, but it looks like there isn't one on MM. Please borow one from forza-inter )
OK, I will give you a clue about that exception - "they say it takes men 3 min to ..." :grinser:
Oh, and Zlat.....don't want to spoil anything, but if you look at the 6th post on page 9 of this topic, then you'll see i was actually faster this time :)
zlatanov
21-11-2006, 17:24
Oh, and Zlat.....don't want to spoil anything, but if you look at the 6th post on page 9 of this topic, then you'll see i was actually faster this time :)
I know, I know ... I will concede this one :beer: :tong:
rosoneri_11
21-11-2006, 17:26
That was a very bad day for me!!!!
I know, I know ... I will concede this one :beer: :tong:
And i have no clue what takes men 3 minutes to do :ilol:
rosoneri_11
21-11-2006, 17:29
You know that milan today lost for first time from a geek team?Well it is true!All the games at the past with greek teams ended or draws or wins for milan,today it was our first lost!
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Now we start to break negative records??????????
remote2book
21-11-2006, 17:31
we r making all negative records this season...
Graeme C
21-11-2006, 17:35
main thing that worries me is the fact they cant score, if we dont score in the first half, there not going to... really is scary and embarrassing.. Sad to say, but i think even lazio have a better squad than we do. It takes alot for me to say that...
we cant seem to open teams up.. In italy its even more difficult because we are now the most predictable team..
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we cant seem to open teams up.. In italy its even more difficult because we are now the most predictable team..
I wish I can agree with you, but the problem about being 'predictable' is that people have been saying MIlan be predictable for more than 2/3 seasons, just like People saying Milan's defense is old (for like what? 5 years already?). So, if it used to deliver, but not now, then that is exactly the problem.
Anyway, ask our strikers to score, that's the whole issue.
rosoneri_11
21-11-2006, 17:37
Does anyone remember a good performance from Pirlo this year at campionato or CL ????
Graeme C
21-11-2006, 17:37
Ancelotti thinks positive Tuesday 21 November, 2006 -- Channel4
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Carlo Ancelotti focused on the positive aspects of Milan’s qualification and insisted his era would continue despite their dismal form.
“What went wrong? Just the fact that this is a period when everything is happening,” said the Coach after their 1-0 Champions League defeat at AEK Athens.
“We lost Marcos Cafu and Dario Simic at the last minute on top of the six players at home, then Dida got injured. We had a host of chances and hit the woodwork, but despite it all we are qualified and this gives us the strength and confidence to keep going.”
The Rossoneri are still certain of top spot in Group H thanks to Lille’s 2-2 draw with Anderlecht, even after losing their unbeaten record in the Champions League this season.
The injury crisis continues, though, as Cafu suffered a setback yesterday, then Simic pulled out with a problem during the warm-up and Dida hurt his left knee in the second half.
“Dida picked up an injury and was able to carry on for a while, but then it got worse. We’ll see what the situation is after some tests over the next few days.”
Milan dominated the match in Greece and had almost 70 per cent of the possession, but couldn’t hit the back of the net.
“The team played very well at the start and kept the tempo high with three or four clear-cut chances. They were also good in the second half, but hit the upright with Pippo Inzaghi and had a few more opportunities,” added Ancelotti.
“When a striker is without goals, it’s like he’s missing the fundamentals of his game. We just have to maintain the strength to keep going, focus, work hard and trust the goal will come eventually.”
The winning goal was a soft one, as Clarence Seedorf gave away a free kick on the edge of the area and the defensive wall didn’t seem to be set out very well when Julio Cesar curled in.
“I always tell my players that if they let a goal in the very top corner we must compliment our opponents. If it doesn’t, then we’ve made a mistake,” said the Coach.
“We have to remember that, regardless of the defeat, we achieved our objective in topping the Group so that in February we’ll get back into the tournament in better shape. Of all the negative things that have happened recently, we’ll take it as a positive sign that we lost and still went through.”
With their appalling form, losing five of their last seven games in all competitions, the Press asked what this meant for the future of the Ancelotti era.
“This era is continuing. I like the idea of staying at Milan for 10 years, but I’d like to do it the way I am now – on the field every day, in sync with the club and planning together for the future.”
yeah...I dont think that we should really blame players here. Carlo cannot give anything to Milan anymore...he gave it all, he needs to go for good.
and why is Carlo's fault if our players don't run, if our strikers can't score chances that my grandmother would i really don't understand why you think so, he can't do more with these players maybe if we didn't had so many injured players we wouldn't have been in these crisis the only mistake is because he is not using the youth players
rosoneri_11
21-11-2006, 17:41
HAHAHAHA!Carlo is joking us!What to the hell he said?We played good!
Do you really believe that these factors haven't affected our season so far and will continue to affect it.
Hm, i may be wrong here, but thats how i see it... So whats really different with squad now and last year.
OK, we lost a sheva, rui, vogel and stam. We got some replacements so there's not that much difference. You could expect slighter worse play.
2 weeks preaparing and we won all games we were into. And now after 2 months of regular trainig, learning tactics and playing together as a team we cannot win anymore. This excuse is at least one month too old for me.
Moggipoli effect. There is - does that mean we should re-buy the whole team so we dont have effected players? NO, we need a shrink/motivator/psycho to get their heads clear. They cant forget how to play just because they started 3 games down!
We had injuries last year and they hurt us even more now. All players are one year older (which in our case is bad for a lot of them), and few of them are tired from WC. I agree with all of that. Then we should rest them, use some primavera subs or something like that (gamble on one game to win another 2).
My whole point is that today milan had faaar better team on the field (also goes for games against seriea minnows) and lost in style.
getting our strikers to score will only solve one of the problems Jeff.
rosoneri_11
21-11-2006, 17:43
getting our strikers to score will only solve one of the problems Jeff.
and we had a loooooooooooot of problems!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Graeme C
21-11-2006, 17:43
carlo is the the guardian of the team, its his baby... Carlo is responsible for it... Ok all our strikers are firing blanks, someone has to take the blame.. One striker you can blame it on the player, but all 4? something is wrong with the service and the tactics... If its not the case then the management are to blame, but carlo is hugely resposible for how we are currently playing!
getting our strikers to score will only solve one of the problems Jeff.
But solving this 'one of the problems' will also solve a lot other problems, automatically, I believe. Because this isTHE MOST important problem.
Graeme C
21-11-2006, 17:46
10 years of ancelotti? we might aswell give up now! :P
carlo is the the guardian of the team, its his baby... Carlo is responsible for it... Ok all our strikers are firing blanks, someone has to take the blame.. One striker you can blame it on the player, but all 4? something is wrong with the service and the tactics... If its not the case then the management are to blame, but carlo is hugely resposible for how we are currently playing!
So now what? After gila, it's Carlo? Give us a break.
I'll blame the management before blaming Carlo; who doesn't buy any goddarn player for Carlo in summer? (then of course we can blame the scandel)... Sacking Carlo will be an act of irresponsibility from the management team, who has created this own mass.
sacking Carlo will NOT help because it's NOT the solution.
The striekrs have to sink in easy chances. That's the MAIN (albeit not all-cure) solution.
But solving this 'one of the problems' will also solve a lot other problems, automatically, I believe. Because this isTHE MOST important problem.
yeah, solving this would get us better win ratio and that is what we desperately need ASAP.
So how would u solve this problem? With waiting?
Graeme C
21-11-2006, 17:49
So now what? After gila, it's Carlo? Give us a break.
I'll blame the management before blaming Carlo; who doesn't buy any goddarn player for Carlo in summer? (then of course we can blame the scandel)... Sacking Carlo will be an act of irresponsibility from the management team, who has created this own mass.
sacking Carlo will NOT help because it's NOT the solution.
The striekrs have to sink in easy chances. That's the MAIN (albeit not all-cure) solution.
i think i was in the pro Gila group :) it really depends how much they can bare Jeff, if we continue this form and get knocked out the champ league next round, we gotta say ciao...
If the management are to blame, they can use him as a scape goat...
yeah, solving this would get us better win ratio and that is what we desperately need ASAP.
and I"m very angry with Inzaghi because he WAS the one who got ALL THE CHANCES today... it's not like difficult chances that Gila or Oli have to do.... bera that in mind
Unfortunately yes; because you can't buy any players at this stage... in Jan we'll see. BUT NOW... goal is the key.
If the management are to blame, they can use him as a scape goat...
Sadly, true.
scoring goals won't add pace, midfield aggression/creativity or defensive stability to the team.
The great problem after this AEK game is that the team is lacking the clinical last finish, Inzahi is playing alone, Borriello, no comment, he wasn't that good today, and Oliviera is just running around slaming into defenders and then crossing or shooting really badly, with his left!
I want to ask a question please, why was Milan so deadly in the begining of the season, and right after having the very 1st point, Milan started to deterorate, after the comback of the derby, I though Milan would return, might return, now I think you are nearing rock bottom, seriously compared to the first stage of the season, what has happened?
scoring goals won't add pace, midfield aggression/creativity or defensive stability to the team.
I may want to agree with you until today, when I see a pacy, aggressive midfield in the first 30 minute or so. They ARE freaking capable of it... it's a huge psychological problem... I mean... when you see your striker not scoring goals chances after chances, while the other team just needed 1 chance to do that... wouldn't that be discerning, painfully hilarious, and worth a reprimand?
In terms of defensive stability, I only remembered Bonera making a bad back pass, and the goal which, whoever the mistake is, should give credit to the other team.
But yes... having say all this, I'm worried that Milan won't be able to walk out of this unlucky/stupid/awful period. I'm very worried.
I want to ask a question please, why was Milan so deadly in the begining of the season, and right after having the very 1st point, Milan started to deterorate, after the comback of the derby, I though Milan would return, might return, now I think you are nearing rock bottom, seriously compared to the first stage of the season, what has happened?
Ask the bars, the woodworks.
12 times in 13 games... even if half of them gone in, that'll be 6 goals.
rosoneri_11
21-11-2006, 17:56
I think kaka need helps at midfield!He is trying by himself to do everything! but thats imposible!
I was so sad to see him trying,run with the ball and no help from anyone!Today kaka suffered from his team mates!
It is awful to see this player to play at this current milan!He cant play!iMilan must built a new team with quality players or it is better for him to go to Real Madrid!I can't see him sufering like this!He dont deserve it!
Oliveira and Kaka aside, there is no genuine pace in our team Jeff. Gourcuff said himself he's not that fast, Jankulovski & Cafu seem variable at best. Don't even start on the other midfielders.
It's no good being able to simulate those qualities for 30 mins every now and again, we need players who can do this all the time. It would be worth a reprimand if it had only happened a few times, but it hasn't. Some of the faults we are seeing now were noticable years ago but because those bad games were masked by a large number of outstanding ones, it didn't seem to matter then and obviously now it's incredibly important.
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