(05-21-2011, 12:04 PM)Gabriel426 Wrote: He failed in one WC, heck, that was only one bad game and Germany played a perfect game. Prior to that game, Argentina was one of the favor in the tournament while people doubt Spain.
As I said,Messi is the only player that for sure can lift Milan to the next level.
Not having a trequasita does ot mean your team can't win the CL. ManU never play with one and they made the CL finals 3 times in 4 years. Barcelona don't play with one and they are in 2 finals in 3years. The game has change and it is not a must to have someone like ZZ at the trequastia spot.
I don't totally disagree with you, but I think a fantasista like him need the best service to get the best out of him. If we supply him with the passes of Argentina NT's standard, pass then expect a show from him, we are doomed, the Tottenham memories are still painful to me.
I was wrong to use the trequarista concept, I just meant a great passer of the ball, like Xavi or Pirlo. With them, Messi can move without any delay, his off-the-ball movement is used the best and he needs only beat one or two opponents. If we pass to him like the way we pass to Ibra, it is even less effective.
If he doesn't get the best service, he can't play like the world best, so he can't "lift" the team. Because he is a forward, not a midfielder or defender.
(05-21-2011, 12:41 PM)JuanShoe Wrote:(05-21-2011, 11:52 AM)Aficio Wrote: Messi is no god, mate. He can't lift Argentina NT by his own and Milan now don't have a trequasita.
I hate this notion that a) Messi is a failure with the national team and b) a single player can win a team a world cup or champions league. We live in a professional age where the organisation, fitness and tactical awareness of all teams is much better thanks to the professional game. This is why you can't compare between eras because of footballing evolution. You can say which one you think was the most entertaining,enjoyable or the player who was furthest ahead of his peers. No one man can win a world cup anymore and to be honest Maradona didn't win the world cup single handed anyway, that's just the way it is now spun to help glorify him more.
I meant his teammates didn't help him the way he needed, so he couldn't play like the world best. In that condition, only the god can. Messi is not god, so he can't.
Maradona was helped by all his teammates and coach. Kaka was helped by his inform teammates and coach. Messi was not helped but expected.
