Summer mercato 2012

[curki]

from some twitter account:

Berlusconi: "I've sold Ibrahimovic and Thiago because I couldn't bear the thought of selling Mesbah to Marseille."

hahahahah

[WCmilan]

wtf, now milannews just reported on an interview with silvas agent (whos in brazil right now) who said that nothing is done yet with silva, we'll keep in contact with psg in the next few days and see what happens.

[Hasan Rossonero]

he also said that the sale doesn't depend on the player, but the two clubs.

[Arildonardo]

he also said that the sale doesn't depend on the player, but the two clubs.

...and Berlusconi has already said both has been sold. I wonder what's taking time. Maybe Barbara can save us in the last minute again?

[LebRN]

Some reports suggest that Dzeko or Tevez will be taken to replace Ibra, and Destro could arrive to replace Robinho who could leave.

Actually, about our attack, while some are unhappy, I'd say such moves could lead us to play better forward ... with more moves.

The problem is behind ...

Very much agree....and I'm still hoping for a combination of theories:
We told PSG we won't sell Thiago unless they take Ibra too...now that a deal for Ibra gets done and Ibra agrees, we withdraw Thiago (or he refuses to go) while Ibra is committed to leave ....and this was the plan all along to be able to ship Ibra out for 25Mio.

Ok that's all I have to try to make some sense of all this...I think we can handle Ibra leaving (and could even be benifical) but not Thiago

[ElMago99]

ESPN:

OFFICIAL: AC Milan sell Ibrahimovic & T. Silva to PSG

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/st...in-psg?cc=5901

Berlusconi: "I've sold Ibra and T.Silva. We're going to save €150M over 2 years."

There you go folks. From the horse's mouth. Not only did we sell our 2 best players, but Berlusconi announced that we're going to save nearly 150 Million Euros from the sale + Wages. That means there will be no replacements, as then Berlusconi wouldn't be saving anything. Berlusconi apparently needs 150M out of Milan to cover losses of Fininvest. It's all over.

Also, now Cassano wants out badly, and is said to join Sampdoria along with Maxi Lopez.
http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/milan...dzLml0LTg1NDcz

Bad, bad, bad news today guys. This team is no longer in contention for UCL, or Scudetto. This is what a club in Crisis looks like. We're in big trouble. BIG.

[GeoTav]

Big clubs can be in trouble and crisis sometimes ... They always come back from hell !!
It looks like we are slowly coming into hell, so the worst is now and the next few weeks/months : that means it will only get better then !!

[xudong]

As long as it is done quickly, I don't mind. We should move on quickly. It would be worse if Berlusconi jumps out and saves the day (part of him "being the hero" gig), only to have all these all over again in a few weeks.

[ElMago99]

I dont pay taxes also, my company does. As i said, I am pocketing 1000, while I cost my company 1700 (with 70% taxes).

All I'm trying to say is - taxes are calculated from the nett sum.

If Mexes is pocketing 4m, then either he costs Milan 6m, or the taxes in Italy are 100% (which would mean he costs us 8m).

Can't be both

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getting a little confused what is the "gross sum" then?? nett + what? how do you calculate it?

it's pretty much simple to be honest... let's say I work in Italy, I get paid 10,000 Euros per month... thats before taxes(gross sum).. now that I got paid I have to pay taxes(which my employer does automatically) which equals 50% of my salary... so at the end of the month I end up getting paid 5000 Euros
Mexes gets paid 8M, but Milan pay the taxes, so he ends up getting 4m...

Here we go with the Taxes argument again..?

In United States, the Employee pays his/her own taxes which is anywhere from 20-35% of their wages. If one is a business owner, they can deduct expenses and pay virtually no taxes. Those who are poor don't pay taxes.

In Europe, they have some stupid system which forces companies to pay the taxes for the people (probably because the people would say FK off if they had to pay), and it's 50% of your income in Italy. I don't know about other countries. So, Milan whenever you hear a wage of a player, think Double. That's what Milan has to Pay.

I find it disgusting that Western Countries pay 50% or more of their income to taxes, which goes to the Queen of England, the Rothschild Central Banks (EU, Federal Reserve, etc), and the rest goes to the army, so they can kill brown people around the world for their resources... It's disgusting. We haven't changed at all since the Middle Ages, when the peasants paid the lords and nobles (serfdom/slavery)

[GeoTav]

it's pretty much simple to be honest... let's say I work in Italy, I get paid 10,000 Euros per month... thats before taxes(gross sum).. now that I got paid I have to pay taxes(which my employer does automatically) which equals 50% of my salary... so at the end of the month I end up getting paid 5000 Euros
Mexes gets paid 8M, but Milan pay the taxes, so he ends up getting 4m...

Here we go with the Taxes argument again..?

In United States, the Employee pays his/her own taxes which is anywhere from 20-35% of their wages. If one is a business owner, they can deduct expenses and pay virtually no taxes. Those who are poor don't pay taxes.

In Europe, they have some stupid system which forces companies to pay the taxes for the people (probably because the people would say FK off if they had to pay), and it's 50% of your income in Italy. I don't know about other countries. So, Milan whenever you hear a wage of a player, think Double. That's what Milan has to Pay.

I find it disgusting that Western Countries pay 50% or more of their income to taxes, which goes to the Queen of England, the Rothschild Central Banks (EU, Federal Reserve, etc), and the rest goes to the army, so they can kill brown people around the world for their resources... It's disgusting. We haven't changed at all since the Middle Ages, when the peasants paid the lords and nobles (serfdom/slavery)

Nope, actually, the company pays taxes, but the employee also pays taxes. Well, in France, it is this way. Everybody pays taxes !!
The main part of these taxes is paid for the retirement (people get paid when they retire from their job - this money is paid by the workers) and other things ...

PS : sorry, I edit my post, I'm tired and I'm writing stupid things ...