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Venting, sell the club, etc. thread
(02-17-2015, 11:49 AM)ACMILAN1983 Wrote: My view is similar these days. I supported Milan since I was a child and frankly for all the good that I saw back then, there's little denying that when it comes down to it Milan has a dark side that many of us, including me, will turn a blind eye on and instead focus on the more romantic elements. The same goes with other clubs, lots will have good and bad about them, things I admire, but others which I loathe.

This is just another one of those things, something I loathe.

I think it's basically just easier to see things for what they really are when we're not winning like in the past, because it shifts our focus to the club itself, instead of just the players. I have always been uncomfortable with this side of Milan, because the club has been used to promote political views that are quite the opposite of my own, and Sacchi's comments are massively disappointing.

I also think he is wrong about Italians in the team, to be honest. If you want Italian youngsters to become great players, I think it would be a good idea to put them in an environment where they're surrounded by other talents from around the world. Football is a truly global sport now, in every sense of the word, and the most successful clubs and countries have embraced this fact.
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(02-17-2015, 10:00 PM)devoted_dm Wrote: I think it's basically just easier to see things for what they really are when we're not winning like in the past, because it shifts our focus to the club itself, instead of just the players. I have always been uncomfortable with this side of Milan, because the club has been used to promote political views that are quite the opposite of my own, and Sacchi's comments are massively disappointing.

I also think he is wrong about Italians in the team, to be honest. If you want Italian youngsters to become great players, I think it would be a good idea to put them in an environment where they're surrounded by other talents from around the world. Football is a truly global sport now, in every sense of the word, and the most successful clubs and countries have embraced this fact.

I agree and it would be hypocritical of me to say I've often overlooked things I dislike during more comfortable times.

I'm in complete agreement with you about Sacchi being wrong about Italians being in the team. Actually, I'm with honsano, where this comment changes my perspective on wanting him back in Milan, not because it's obviously a racist comment (although that alone warrants not wanting him back), but because it's evident that based on these comments he's lost touch with the modern world.

When I saw all this blow up yesterday it reminded me of the quote "never meet your heroes", although in this case I've never actually met Sacchi.
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Cannot believe Sacchi said that. Honestly, how backward can Italians be?

As for the sale of Milan, will only get happy once it is a done deal.
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This situation has blown up badly and people just keep digging.

Sacchi has hit back at people calling him racist:

http://www.football-italia.net/62813/sac...t-populism

He's still missing the point, that in the modern world black doesn't necessarily equate to foreign. Has he confirmed that these kids aren't of Italian nationality or don't have a choice to play for Italy in the future? Possibly the brightest prospect coming out of Italy today is actually of Moroccan descent (Mastour) and until now he's always represented Italy at youth level.

El Shaarawy is half Egyptian, Liverani, Balotelli, Ogbonna and Okaka are all black Italians. The list goes on. As said before, I don't think Sacchi's intention was to be racist with these comments, but the guy's totally ignorant in what he's saying.

As if to add to the woe, Capello has defended him, but at the same time apparently used a slang expression used to discriminate against homosexuals:

http://www.football-italia.net/62796/cap...t%E2%80%99

And if that wasn't enough, now Ancelotti has commented on the subject by quoting Julius Caesar and Mussolini:

http://www.football-italia.net/62814/anc...r%E2%80%99

All this from possibly my favourite 3 coaches in football history Facepalm
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(02-19-2015, 01:54 PM)ACMILAN1983 Wrote: This situation has blown up badly and people just keep digging.

Sacchi has hit back at people calling him racist:

http://www.football-italia.net/62813/sac...t-populism

He's still missing the point, that in the modern world black doesn't necessarily equate to foreign. Has he confirmed that these kids aren't of Italian nationality or don't have a choice to play for Italy in the future? Possibly the brightest prospect coming out of Italy today is actually of Moroccan descent (Mastour) and until now he's always represented Italy at youth level.

El Shaarawy is half Egyptian, Liverani, Balotelli, Ogbonna and Okaka are all black Italians. The list goes on. As said before, I don't think Sacchi's intention was to be racist with these comments, but the guy's totally ignorant in what he's saying.

As if to add to the woe, Capello has defended him, but at the same time apparently used a slang expression used to discriminate against homosexuals:

http://www.football-italia.net/62796/cap...t%E2%80%99

And if that wasn't enough, now Ancelotti has commented on the subject by quoting Julius Caesar and Mussolini:

http://www.football-italia.net/62814/anc...r%E2%80%99

All this from possibly my favourite 3 coaches in football history Facepalm

Ah, I really think they should just shut up. But its too late anyway.
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I agree. Celebrities should think twice before they open their mouth. Words can be much more hurtful and damaging than they know.
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Here's a profile of Wang Jianlin, who's been linked to investing in shares in Milan:

http://www.milannews.it/altre-notizie/il...lin-169396

According to Forbes, he's worth $25 billion, similar to Michele Ferrero, who owned Nutella and was previously linked to Milan.

According to the Economist, he's also competing with Jack Ma, of Alibaba fame, as the richest man in China. Other sources claim he's "only" fourth richest.

Just in case people are wondering what Wang Jianlin's line of work is, he's CEO of the Wanda group, a real estate firm in China.

Personally, and this isn't a well informed opinion, but based on media stories, this guy investing in Milan is much better than the linked Thai investor, Bee Taechaubol.
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Following from yesterday's post, just wanted to say the Wanda group deny interest in acquiring Milan. Today, the rumours are that Arab investors are interested in spending 300m to acquire 30%. The head of the deal is Sheikh Mansour, who is the owner of Man City and the long term plan would be to continue investing until gaining majority shares.
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I saw this tweet now, I have no idea if it's a joke or something or not

@nonleggerlo
++ Tiziano Crudeli: Berlusconi ha venduto l'@acmilan ad un gruppo libanese, cifra vicino al miliardo. (#7gold @ReGiorgio_Primo)
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I think as soon as the stadium gets its approval from the Milan council we will see the club sold. Silvio doesnt want to invest anymore and isnt going to get anywhere near the money he wants for the club unless we have a stadium approved.
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