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Venting, sell the club, etc. thread
Damn, did you guys see the latest news? Apparently there's serious talk about a figure between 70 and 100 million being made available for the transfer market this summer. The reason for the delay regarding the sale, according to Sky Sports, is that Berlusconi wants to make sure that Milan returns to winning as soon as possible. Apparently Doyen Sports' involvement is also purely related to the market, as they will assist in bringing suitable players to the club. They will not be investing in Milan.
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Sorry, missed some vital info about Doyen. Apparently the idea is that they won't invest in Milan, but will bring us free players for the next two years. According to Milannews.it, that is.
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Doyen is part of the Mr. Bee investors
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aim, good to see you, hope you decide to stick around.

Not so bad chance that the team will have at least a bit interesting mercato this and next summer
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(05-01-2015, 04:00 PM)Hasan Rossonero Wrote: Latest from sources is that there will be a meeting tomorrow morning to close the deal...

Hasan, here is some other chilling information I gathered and post on another website.

Basing on information available on internet, here is a reality check on some Asian owners and European football clubs:

- Racing Santander, La Liga: its Bahrain based Indian tycoon Ahsan Ali Syed, with a fortune estimated around $8 billion and co-founder of Western Gulf Advisory (an asset management/investment company), simply disappeared after much fanfare of buying Racing Santander.

The players were not paid and refused to play the second leg of Cup match.

Con-man of a loan scam? Or sugar daddy? He tried but failed to buy Blackburn, boasted to bring RS to challenge Real Madrid and Barca. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footbal...enson.html.

In 2014 Switzerland issued an arrest warrant for Ahsan Ali Syed over charges of fraud and money laundering in relation to Western Gulf Advisory.

(Btw, Mr. Bee's best pal Pablo Victor Dana is a Director of Asset Management for a company called Twenty Two Investment Ltd., same type of business as Ahsan Ali Syed. He is rumoured to be a potential CEO/CFO of Milan.)

RS relegated from 1st Division to 2nd D and then to 3D.

- Birmingham City, EPL: Carson Yeung, a ex-Hong Kong hairdresser-turned-Birmingham City owner, was sentenced for six years in March, 2014 for money-laundering in the range of HK$ 720 million. (Case details in Chinese: http://money.163.com/keywords/6/6/67685bb68bda/1.html.)

He bought the club in July, 2007 via Hong Kong Stock Exchange (SEHK)-listed company Grandtop International Holdings Limited (GIH).

(Internet rumours says our new owners proposing to list Milan also on SEHK?)

The club was relegated from the EPL in 2011 to England's third tier.

- Blackburn Rovers, EPL: bought in November, 2010 by Indian poultry firm Venky's for 23 million pounds. Under the new ownership, Venky’s was voted by fans as the worst owners in the English league, the club was relegated in 2012. By 2015, it has had a £30 million written off the estimated value of players, and £83 million drop in shareholder value since 2011.

http://www.roverstrust.com/2015/01/19/bl...ys-regime/

-Cardiff City, EPL: purchased 30% of the club in May 2010 by Malaysian tycoon Vincent Tan with a consortium of Malaysian investors. His net worth is estimated around US$1.3 billion and his business include gambling. He angered "the fans of Welsh club Cardiff City, nicknamed "the Bluebirds", when he changed their kit colour from blue to red, saying it was a luckier colour." (2015 the colour is reversed back to its original blue.)

This is not all. In October 2013, Tan suspended the club's head of recruitment for overspending by £15 million during the summer transfer window, and replaced him by Alisher Apsalyamovby, a 23-year-old Kazakh who was previously on work experience with the club and is a friend of Tan's son for a few months.

It is said he has spent £140 million in his four year ownership. After 51-year the club was promoted to EPL in 2013, Tan publicly stated his interest in listing his 36.1% stake on the Kuala Lumpur Stock Exchange (KLSE) apart from promised spending of £25 million. The public offering (IPO) "hit aregulatory snag over the team's weak cash flow."

End of 2013/14, Cardiff was relegated.

Tan owns Bosnian club FK Sarajevo.

- Queens Park Rangers, EPL: Malaysian airline entrepreneur Tony Fernandes became is the majority owner of the club after bought off Bernie Ecclestone's 66% stake for around £35m. (Indian billionaire steel magnate Lakshmi Mittal owns a 30% stake in the club. A toy for his son-in-law.)

So far money has been spent, great results (champions) have not arrived, and chaotic from previous era under Flavio Briatore stewardship remains.

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"The wait for another Roman Abramovich is a long one and for every Sheikh Mansour, there are a hundred Michael Knightons or - worse - someone who won't just content themselves with a bit of ball juggling in front of admiring fans but go on to asset strip the club, take it into administration and, who knows, if they are really clever, even manage to end up on the list of creditors waiting to be paid by the administrator." - Daily Mail

(Michael Knightons had his five-minute fame for his aborted £20 million bid to buy Manchester United in 1989.)


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(05-01-2015, 04:42 PM)Hasan Rossonero Wrote: @dev

If Doyen Sports's modus operandi has been as described, then why would it be different with us?

Latest reports suggest that Doyen Sports will be present tomorrow.

EDIT: There is speculation that Galliani will remain. Bee just wants to add to the existing management structure.

Like I guessed in previous post, Mr. Bee & Co are willing to give any promises so as to get the deal done as quick as possible. Then they, esp. Doyen, can start to plan which Doyen players should be peddled to Milan. Eventually probably to forecast how much loan it should give Milan and at what interest rate and what the punitive conditions should be. (Like what they did with Atletico Madrid?)

What the club NOW urgently need is to introduce new generation business professionals to replace Galliani. Milan should strive to expand and explore different revenue channels and put in place cost control measure like a modern day business with or without change of owners.

With Galliani staying on power, Mr. Bee & Co simply buys themselves into Milan to run its financial scheme under the eyes of Galliani, who knows sh!t about modern day financial tricks, I 'm afraid.
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(05-01-2015, 09:35 PM)reza Wrote: aim, good to see you, hope you decide to stick around.

Not so bad chance that the team will have at least a bit interesting mercato this and next summer

Thx. Forget my old password and have to register again.

Reza, you are too naive regarding the money Mr. Bee & Doyen will "give" to Milan. 1. It will be LOAN and need to be paid back with interest. IF Milan fails to pay the loan installment on time, Doyen and Mr. Bee will take the economic rights of the players we have bought.

Just like it did with Atletico Madrid regarding Falcao's transfer. For every installment that would not be paid, the Doyen Sports Investements would take one third of the economic rights of Falcao.

2. Doyen plus Mr. Bee & Co will run the show in Milan management. As a investor of a rare product, i.e. star footballer, it needs to sell its players to highest offer. The more often its players get transferred, the more money Doyen, probably also Mr. Bee & Co, will get.

Milan can NOT stop them. Neither the Doyen player himself nor the coach can stop them. The real Master is Doyen & Co. That is exact how it happened with Falcao.

"After a fantastic first season in Spain, the Colombian agreed to join Chelsea but changed his mind and opted to stay in Madrid following pleas from coach Diego Simeone and the board. As a reward for his loyalty, the Colombian was promised a chunk of his release clause, which was lowered, so when he was sold for €60m last summer, only €45m was actually paid by Monaco to Atleti, with the remainder paid to the player himself.

Atletico, then, only made €5m on their initial investment of €40m. In reality, however, they could have made even less because the extra cash may have been paid to Doyen, whose third-party investment in the player meant they were entitled to more than the €22m lent to Atletico for the purpose of signing Falcao in the summer of 2011.

With Falcao gone, Atletico paid Porto another instalment in the summer (of around €7m) and still owe the Portuguese side in the region of €5m, with the final part set to be paid next year - more than 12 months after his exit."

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/3277/la-l...s-transfer-

Same can happen with Milan too. We could end up with NOT owning the players in real a sense as we do today and with a loan plus interest. The hefty transfer fee will mainly go to Doyen, and probably Mr. Bee & Co, should they set up a investment company aka Peter Lim with his Meriton Capital or join Doyen secretly to share the spoils.
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That scenario at Milan would be sad to see, but unless a super money family or guy ala PSG or Chelsea steps up the alternative is probably a Berlusconi style status quo. If someone like that is around he should have stepped up to take the Milan name his thing like Berlusconi did in the 80s.
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(05-01-2015, 04:01 PM)ACMILAN1983 Wrote: Excellent posts aim, also welcome to MM Smile . Actually, were you a poster in the past? I'm sure I remember a poster with the same username before.

You are right, I was in MM more than 10 years ago and then lost my password here. Have to register again today. Blush

This is going a turbulent time for us fans all over the world and also the club.


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