Summer mercato 2015

[slifersd]

Why is Bonera still a maybe? What is the infatuation that we have with this guy? Has he not done enough to prove himself a loser already?

Zapata and Rami, there really shouldn't be any doubt who should leave, is it? Zapata has been a disaster for two years now and we are still not sure if we should get rid of him?

Bertolacci, Mauri and Baselli would all be welcomed, provided we get rid of the old farts. These guys can stay together a few years and develop into the core of our new midfield. But that is never going to happen if all the old farts who will demand their places guaranteed are still here. They are not world beaters, but it's not like we would be able to get a real game changer anyway. Let's not forget that Italy is a league in the decline, has major competitive, safety and economic issues, and we don't have CL football. As much as I would love Fabregas, he is not coming even if we agree to pay 70M for him.

[xudong]

There's an article talking about the likely revolution to take place this summer.

http://www.milannews.it/primo-piano/una-...lan-177813

Basically, it says the following players will or might leave:

- Abbiati (Maybe) please renew him
- Bonera (Maybe) of course no one likes him but I would understand his influence in the locker room
- Mexes
- De Jong
- Pazzini having second thought on him. i guess depending on who the new coach is, Pazzini may still be helpful. if he stays, please lower the salary
- Muntari
- Essien
- Bocchetti
- Van Ginkel
- Destro
- Cerci
- Albertazzi
- Zaccardo
- One of Zapata and Rami i don't mind both leaving

Oh, and of course Inzaghi will be sacked.

I added a few thoughts of mine.

[ACMILAN1983]

There's rumours on Milannews that Di Molfetta is wanted on loan from clubs in Spain and the idea somewhat appeals to him. If that's true and he would like the experience abroad, I think he should be allowed to go out on loan (a dry loan, no option, he returns in a year unless the loan is extended). It would be good for him to grow there and he's the sort of player who could thrive there.

Xu, I agree mostly, other than I don't think Pazzini should stay and I wouldn't mind Rami staying.

All fine and good but who will they replace them. Baselli, Bertolacci types won't elevate the team that much.

They won't, but they will surely be an upgrade to the likes of Essien and Muntari. However, like you say anyone expecting them to be starters and elevating the team significantly are probably in for a disappointment.

Why is Bonera still a maybe? What is the infatuation that we have with this guy? Has he not done enough to prove himself a loser already?

Zapata and Rami, there really shouldn't be any doubt who should leave, is it? Zapata has been a disaster for two years now and we are still not sure if we should get rid of him?

Bertolacci, Mauri and Baselli would all be welcomed, provided we get rid of the old farts. These guys can stay together a few years and develop into the core of our new midfield. But that is never going to happen if all the old farts who will demand their places guaranteed are still here. They are not world beaters, but it's not like we would be able to get a real game changer anyway. Let's not forget that Italy is a league in the decline, has major competitive, safety and economic issues, and we don't have CL football. As much as I would love Fabregas, he is not coming even if we agree to pay 70M for him.

On Bonera, I think he's a liability on the pitch, but in the dressing room he could be useful. However, my view is that he shouldn't be more than 5th choice CB, so the likelihood of seeing him should be pretty close to none.

I agree on Zapata (he was good in his first half season). I feel for him, as his career's nosedived in the past 3-4 years.

I generally agree on the 3 Italian midfielders, but out of curiosity who are the old farts you're referring to? Bear in mind that if Muntari and Essien leave as expected, as well as De Jong, then that means most of the older midfielders other than Montolivo are gone. Montolivo should remain imo, I understand why people want him out as he's been horrendous, but he can be useful if used correctly.

[nefremo]

Dev, what do you mean by "used correctly" in Montolivo's case?

[ACMILAN1983]

I think man management is key with him, as I don't think he's mentally the strongest. Also, he's often been asked to play as a mezzala, which he's not the best at. Personally, I think he's always been best in front of the defence as a regista. However, if this is the case he shouldn't be alone in being expected to offer security in front of the defence, so ideally a good all round midfielder will benefit him. I also think that he's at his best alongside intelligent and mobile midfielders, as they can give options to him to work with, not De Jong, who imo is technically and tactically limited and has no co-ordination with Montolivo.

[slifersd]

Old farts means Muntari, Essien and Montolivo. Problem I have with them is that they do not perform at all, but will always demand a starting place due to name value and tenure. This Milan, without any real star powers (and will continue to be that way for some time) cannot afford to give underperformers any playing time at all. But team culture dictates that we always give precedence to players with tenure. And that to me, is why Muntari captained the team in Juve game; Montolivo continues to get playing time when he underperforms; Essien plays any game at all; Bonera is somehow a starter at the beginning of the season.

Bonera might be a good locker room guy (I am not exactly sure what that even means to be honest), but a team cannot be paying significant money for locker room only people. Hell, that is what we pay the coach for, isn't it? As long as he is still on the team, Bonera will still get playing time because he is friends with everyone. There is a reason why every coach we have plays him and it's not because of his capabilities or potential.

[millinarios]

Bonera might be a good locker room guy (I am not exactly sure what that even means to be honest)

He tells farting jokes to team mates nonstop.

[xudong]

I remember some photos a few years ago.

[somedevil]

I think man management is key with him, as I don't think he's mentally the strongest. Also, he's often been asked to play as a mezzala, which he's not the best at. Personally, I think he's always been best in front of the defence as a regista. However, if this is the case he shouldn't be alone in being expected to offer security in front of the defence, so ideally a good all round midfielder will benefit him. I also think that he's at his best alongside intelligent and mobile midfielders, as they can give options to him to work with, not De Jong, who imo is technically and tactically limited and has no co-ordination with Montolivo.

I swear I read him saying once that he likes playing up front.

One thing I noticed about Montolivo since he joined us (didn't see him much at Viola). Just my observation might not mean anything. I forgot who we were playing against and I noticed that every time he made long passes, his right arm goes back and high. So I consciously started paying attention to that. Every time his right arm would go back and high he would make a long pass. So much that I started predicting his long passes.

The next game and again the same thing. I thought to myself that If I, who is just a fan, can tell this- the opposition clearly must have seen this on their tapes and can read this as well. Arm goes back, long pass, possession lost.

He's a bad captain, an average player but for his sake and ours, I truly hope he can start performing. I also think he should surrender the Captain's armband.

[millinarios]

I remember some photos a few years ago.

Is that Bonera?