Summer Mercato 2011
(06-10-2011, 10:05 AM)ZvonimirBoban Wrote:
(06-10-2011, 10:00 AM)Aficio Wrote: I've found that Erik Lamela is 1m83 Big Grin

so does Schweinsteiger, Ganso, and Hamsik.

But Ganso is non-EU, so he is technically not on our "shortlist".
(06-10-2011, 08:53 AM)Hitman Wrote: rumors on TMW say that Galliani/Braida will cancel their trip to Brazil because Ganso will not be playing in the final due to another slight injury.... it remains to be seen whether its the same injury or a new one though.

Ouch. Disappointing. Curious, whats tmw?
I think both Galli and Braida are cursing Ganso for ruing their Brazil vacation.
(06-10-2011, 10:37 AM)russo-neri Wrote: Ouch. Disappointing. Curious, whats tmw?

Tutto mercato web.

http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/
(06-10-2011, 05:53 AM)Aficio Wrote:
(06-10-2011, 05:30 AM)xudong Wrote: How many players can be called "big game changers" today, in your opinion?


Nice question. There are not many teams that won WC, Euro and CL, so the big game changers are rare. Sneijder, Eto, Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, C.Ronaldo, Rooney.

Kaka can be there without the injuries, Pippo, Seedorf and Pirlo should be some years younger.

Villa is somewhat indecisive against strong opponents.

Nice list. I would remove, then C. Ronaldo. What has he won in his Real Madrid years?

I would put Shevchenko there too - he is not retired yet. He was big game changer, and still is. I think last season he kicked Manchester City's ass in Europa League.

Too bad all our players are either old or sold. Sad
(06-10-2011, 10:51 AM)Gabriel426 Wrote: I think both Galli and Braida are cursing Ganso for ruing their Brazil vacation.

Don't worry about that. We will be linked with some Brazilian players soon enough for them to go there. Sagrin
(06-10-2011, 03:28 PM)xudong Wrote: Nice list. I would remove, then C. Ronaldo. What has he won in his Real Madrid years?

I would put Shevchenko there too - he is not retired yet. He was big game changer, and still is. I think last season he kicked Manchester City's ass in Europa League.

Too bad all our players are either old or sold. Sad


CR won the Copa Del Rey, he helped MU a lot in winning CL2008. I dislike his attitude, but he has fearless mentality. His debut with MU and his performance in Euro 2004 at 19 years old also showed that. I hesitated when writed his and Rooney's name. Both are arrogant but they are maturing and become tougher.

Sheva left us 5 years ago then came back poorly so I don't want to mention his name (painful). But he surely was one (he is just for Kiev level).

I hope Pato can grow into one.
Rooney is a good player very good finisher.Thats it , he is not a game changer.I am not saying he is bad but he is not up there with Messi , Iniesta , Kaka , CR7 , 2 world cups 9 games no shots on target.The only thing he has big balls for is cheap hookers.

I dont like how the rumours of us signings Witsel or El Sharwaay , are gathering steam.
If we got one of those and a Ganso then yeah.But if it's only that kind of player good in a small team and sub-par league with only potential.
I think it is unfair for Rooney because his national team is England. They have many good players but their tactical view is very inflexible, and he doesn't have attack-minded teammates from MU, so he was not used the best.

I think the more ridiculous rumors are, the bigger player(s) we will get at the end Big Grin
(06-10-2011, 04:08 PM)Jay Crisp Wrote: Rooney is a good player very good finisher.Thats it , he is not a game changer.I am not saying he is bad but he is not up there with Messi , Iniesta , Kaka , CR7 , 2 world cups 9 games no shots on target.The only thing he has big balls for is cheap hookers.

I dont like how the rumours of us signings Witsel or El Sharwaay , are gathering steam.
If we got one of those and a Ganso then yeah.But if it's only that kind of player good in a small team and sub-par league with only potential.

I have only seen youtube clips of El Shaarawy, but he seems to be very good. I wouldn't mind if I get him. He is supposed to be the next "big thing" in Italy.
(06-10-2011, 04:08 PM)Jay Crisp Wrote: Rooney is a good player very good finisher.Thats it , he is not a game changer.I am not saying he is bad but he is not up there with Messi , Iniesta , Kaka , CR7 , 2 world cups 9 games no shots on target.The only thing he has big balls for is cheap hookers.

I dont like how the rumours of us signings Witsel or El Sharwaay , are gathering steam.
If we got one of those and a Ganso then yeah.But if it's only that kind of player good in a small team and sub-par league with only potential.

Rooney is top 5 forward in world and better than Zlatan. People just like to ignore it cause he's english and thus 'can't possibly be'

Seriously lets run down what he's done:

how many players can play false #9 to accommodate Ronaldo (in 07-08) and do it effectively (14 assist a season).. .

Then in 08-09 Fergie buys Berbatov and he wants Rooney to play LW to accommodate both Ronaldo and Berb (and TeveZ) and he does so effectively with 17 assists

Then Ronaldo leaves, Berbatov hits crisis and what does he do? Uses Rooney as a pure #9 and he responds with 30+ goals in a 4-5-1. A role he never played because he was always a support striker

Finally in 10-11, Fergie finds a true #9 poacher, so what does Rooney do? Becomes a PURE #10 in the hole and responds again with many goals and assists.

How many players can do all these things effectively? He works 200% for team and can play any role. Technically he will ALWAYS be underrated cause he's english but he's just behind the likes of totti/Zlatan, howeveR I'd rather have him cause he was never lazy and makes constant runs and takes any role.

And he's ALWAYS performed in every competition (bar 2010 WC where he nursed injuries). He performs cause he knows how to work. He's not a pre-madonna 'directing' players yelling, asking for them to work for him like Zlatan/Totti (who are both much more talented but don't know how to properly work for their team). He's a true team player. Make no mistake this is why Mourinho has said if he could have any forward he'd pick Rooney.


I mean how many people can do all these things at a high level? Messi, C.Ronaldo and Etoo are only ones I can think of.

you guys want to know why bartha got better without Zlatan? It's exactly cause of these factors. Every player they got now does simple things and works for team. Zlatan does not. He is more talented than Villa, but he doesn't make the runs Villa does. He doesn't make simple passes way villa/pedro do. He doesn't play 1 touch and without the ball like Barca forwards do. Zlatan's natural talent allowed him to just hammer la liga and lower competition even if he didn't fit their 'style' but he was ultimately the wrench which stopped them v. inter last year because they had 10 players playing 1 way, and 1 player (zlatan) playing his way