06-21-2016, 10:19 AM
Latest Gazzetta rumours are DES for Paredes. SES for Paredes I'm all for, DES much less so.
Also, apparently Silvio's given the go ahead for Vazquez, so it looks like Galliani's got acceptance from all (Silvio, Chinese and both potential coaches) to go for him.
I'm in agreement with Jay, I think we need to have ambition, but we need to be realistic. Someone mentioned names like Paredes are ok if we're Fiorentina. Funny thing is, we're not even at Fiorentina's level right now, we're a midtable side. Fiorentina have finished above us for three years straight. We're not rich either right now given we lose 100m every year, nor do I suddenly think we will be in a position to overlook names like Paredes even if the Chinese come in, because even if we suddenly have 100m for this summer, it's still not enough and a guy like Paredes at the very least gives strength in depth (something we still seriously lacked last season) and long term potential. So regardless of Silvio or Chinese, I'd take names like Paredes and Vazquez while the opportunity is there, because if we don't I'm confident in saying I don't think we're getting players of a much higher level or players who are better. If we remain under Silvio, I expect players of lesser quality.
I agree that we have to be careful on choosing star players of small teams, though I don't think Bertolacci's failures in the past year are just down to changes in the team he's playing in. Actually, I think there are probably a number of other factors that have caused the problems on field. The environment at Milan is very toxic, this needs to change immediately.
lol, you can't punish the English for being rich, they've made good business decisions which is why they have financial advantages over other nations, there's nothing wrong with doing that. It's not like they've utilised that advantage in sporting success anyway, in fact there's regular debates in England about how clubs have money yet have invested poorly.
Nor can you restrict English clubs from European Football just like that, other nations not in the EU are allowed, so England should be allowed if it leaves.
Also, apparently Silvio's given the go ahead for Vazquez, so it looks like Galliani's got acceptance from all (Silvio, Chinese and both potential coaches) to go for him.
I'm in agreement with Jay, I think we need to have ambition, but we need to be realistic. Someone mentioned names like Paredes are ok if we're Fiorentina. Funny thing is, we're not even at Fiorentina's level right now, we're a midtable side. Fiorentina have finished above us for three years straight. We're not rich either right now given we lose 100m every year, nor do I suddenly think we will be in a position to overlook names like Paredes even if the Chinese come in, because even if we suddenly have 100m for this summer, it's still not enough and a guy like Paredes at the very least gives strength in depth (something we still seriously lacked last season) and long term potential. So regardless of Silvio or Chinese, I'd take names like Paredes and Vazquez while the opportunity is there, because if we don't I'm confident in saying I don't think we're getting players of a much higher level or players who are better. If we remain under Silvio, I expect players of lesser quality.
(06-20-2016, 07:46 PM)slifersd Wrote: Oh man, how the mighty have fallen, lol. I can't believe Milan management has reduced us fans to this. I mean, actually finding silver lining in signing Pavoletti? That was unthinkable even a few years ago. jkjk
In all seriousness, I agree that Pavoletti, Paredes, Saponara and Vazquez would improve the team, but i don't think they will make significant impact for us. I think we always need to be careful with signing star players from smaller teams, because the role and system they will play here will be drastically different. Bertolacci was one of the finest midfielders in Serie A two years ago at Genoa. And he did absolutely nothing here last year. Part of the issue with Berto is that he was the focal point on Genoa. He was the guy that every offensive possession ran through and he had the freedom to do what he wanted, ran where he wanted to and had everyone around him working for him. At Milan, he was merely one of the guys in the midfield who had to different things and play in a different formation. Would Saponara and Vazquez be as disruptive on offense when they don't get the ball every possession? Can they still maintain their effectiveness when they need to also track back and help out on defense? Can they be effective when they do not have the entire field to make their runs? To me, those are difficult questions to answer, and that gives me pause on spending money and signing those guys.
The only players I want from smaller teams are young players who has upside. That is why I really want Paredes. I think he wouldn't cost an arm and a leg, and has proven to be able to adapt his game to different roles and surroundings. And, most importantly, at such a young age, he has room to grow and get even better. Guys like Pavoletti and Vazquez have peaked, and if they can't help you right now, then they never will.
On the selling front, I don't mind selling Bacca, but if we are looking at Immobile and Pavoletti to replace him, we're just going to start regretting it in a few games. Yes, Bacca has his limitations, and Pavoletti can help out more on offensive build up. But the finishing ability isn't even close. Players like Bacca needs to be built around, not ditched at first chance because he doesn't dribble as well as some others. Robinho was a great dribbler, and I don't think any of us is itching to get him back.
I agree that we have to be careful on choosing star players of small teams, though I don't think Bertolacci's failures in the past year are just down to changes in the team he's playing in. Actually, I think there are probably a number of other factors that have caused the problems on field. The environment at Milan is very toxic, this needs to change immediately.
(06-21-2016, 07:57 AM)Mathias Wrote: It's unbelievable how dislocated English football is from the rest of Europe. I know they get much bigger TV contracts but it makes no sense that a bottom team can pay 30m for any player and still have room to spend. Something has to be done about this, i would definitely go as far as leaving them out of the Champion's League if they leave the EU tho.
lol, you can't punish the English for being rich, they've made good business decisions which is why they have financial advantages over other nations, there's nothing wrong with doing that. It's not like they've utilised that advantage in sporting success anyway, in fact there's regular debates in England about how clubs have money yet have invested poorly.
Nor can you restrict English clubs from European Football just like that, other nations not in the EU are allowed, so England should be allowed if it leaves.