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Goirre
17-02-2005, 22:10
This game is on Saturday. As usual this is a must win match, although Cagliari aren't exactly doing bad this season. It will be interesting to see what team Carlo fields, considering Pirlo is still out, and the Man U match is next...and then the derby....and so on.....interesting week ahead ;)

and hopefully Messina will do some damage against the zebras ;)


Anyway, comments?

zlatanov
18-02-2005, 05:57
Actually Pirlo will be available for selection, at least according to www.tgcom.it, but even then I would prefer him to be rested and I hope Carlo won't force things given the fact that Milan will play 8 games in the next 28 days - a fundamental period for the whole season.
I hope Kaka and even Sheva get a rest for this game for we will need them very, very fresh for the ManU game. Furthermore, Kaka has 4 yellow cards and one more would mean him missing the Milan derby next weekend.
My choice for a midfield would be Ambro with Seedorf, Dhorasoo, and Rui behind Crespo and Tomasson - I still believe we can play well without Sheva if the squad is well motivated and concentrated, things we will need at maximum for the remainder of the season.
For defense, I would keep things normal and wouldn't play around too much with it although I am not sure if Nesta doesn't have 4 yellows i.e. in danger of missing the derby. If so I would rest him and play either Stam or Costacurta. Anyways, I would keep it to a 4 men defence for Cagliari are very dangerous on the counter attack.
Needless to say this is a MUST-win game, one of many for the rest of the season, that is.

PirloDaBest
18-02-2005, 05:59
Yes I agree that this match is an important one. We shouldn't have as tough a time against Cagliari, they like to attack more than a lot of the other teams we have played against recently. I hope Ancelotti goes with a 4-4-2 for this game and rests Cafu, Shevchenko and Kaka. Gattuso needs to play no more than 60 mins either. Wednesday is important!!! Ancelotti will need to rotate again now.

I think against Cagliari we should go like this:
Dida
Stam, Nesta, Maldini, Pancaro
Brocchi, Rui Costa, Ambrosini, Serginho
Tomasson, Crespo

HOVO
18-02-2005, 09:08
as far i know in italy a player misses a match after every 3 yellow cards and not 5!
correct me if i'm wrong

Christopher
18-02-2005, 10:22
anyone know what time the match will be on if you were to watch it on GOLTV

SHEVCHENKO 007
18-02-2005, 10:43
Possible starting line up.

DIDA
CAFU
STAM
NESTA
MALDINI
DHOROSOA
BROCCHI
SEEDORF
RUI COSTA
SHEVCHENKO
TOMASSON

MILAN 2 - 0 CALGARI

SHEVCHENKO 2

zlatanov
18-02-2005, 10:53
as far i know in italy a player misses a match after every 3 yellow cards and not 5!
correct me if i'm wrong
It is 5 yellow cards. Here is the list of all Milan players who already have 4 and if booked again in the game vs Cagliari, they will have to saty home for the Milan derby:
Gattuso, Ambrosini, Kaladze, Cafu, Nesta e Kaką
these are fundamental players most of whom we cannot afford to lose for the derby. I would expect some rotations for the Cagliari game and , according to the latest news, Carlo will be starting with Pirlo in midfield, which I think is not a very wise decision but ...

meazza
18-02-2005, 13:10
I would not care at all if after Saturday we had 3 points gained in the most, lucky, awful display of football we've played this season. The games afterwards this one are too important to expect us to be firing on all cylinders with our best team. You only have to look at this site to realise that, the games tomorrow and this thread has 6 replies. Everyone is thinking about Man U and then Inter (whose unbeaten record I hope we beat)

Franco6
18-02-2005, 17:10
Guys tomorrow we have a must win game!!!!

Cagliari are a good team but away from home they achieved little. It is said that Ancelotti is making a bulky turnover because we have 6 players that risk suspernsion and because of the next important games vs man u and inter.


Probable line up: Dida, Cafu, Stam, Maldini, Pancaro, Brocchi, Ambrosini, Dhorasso, Rui Costa, Shevhenko, Tomasson

AC-GIOFFRE
19-02-2005, 05:24
I believe ESPN are showing this game live. Is that correct.

freddydaddy7
19-02-2005, 05:29
tonights game is very important coz i see Juve take 3pts very easly and they are pretty motivated and meeting Real on Wed would be really tough so they wana finish this off early and look ahead.
so this game we should try to finish it off very early the first half knowing that there played who need one more yellow card and bye bye for Derby i know none of them will wana miss that game.
the best formation for us right now is havin 4-3-1-2

Dida
Cafu - Stam- Maldini- Pancaro( he hasnt played for while)
Dhorosoo Ambro Seedorf
Rui Cosat
Sheav Crespo

that would be better so at least we can have some of them rested for Man united and seee how well they go ahead good luck boys

MilanManiac04
19-02-2005, 05:33
Yeah thats right ESPN is showing it Live at 6.30.

oskarius
19-02-2005, 11:55
I hope we can score in 1st half..from then on it will be easy.. :sagrin:

oskarius
19-02-2005, 12:13
Lineup by RAI TV:

Dida

Cafu Stam Maldini Pancaro

Brocchi Pirlo Seedorf

Rui Costa

Tomasson Shevchenko


Well, well..Carlo decided not to risk someone of those players with one yellow card left for suspension..I'm glad rui will start and hope to see our victory and juve's slip.. :3band:

CuoreRossoNero
19-02-2005, 14:07
71st minute and still 0-0 between Messina and Juve.

rae
19-02-2005, 14:28
loox like juve is struggling not to concede goal in last minutes :D
it is 90' and still Messina hasnt scored... terrible night for them... their fans should be very disappointed ...

CuoreRossoNero
19-02-2005, 14:34
The game ends 0-0. A win puts us in a tie for first place.

Forza Milan

m1ke
19-02-2005, 14:35
wouldnt we technically be in first place if we win as our goal difference is better?

rae
19-02-2005, 14:44
wouldnt we technically be in first place if we win as our goal difference is better?
let's hope the best :tong:

:star: :proud: Milan Siamo Noi :proud: :star:

Jeff
19-02-2005, 14:46
wouldnt we technically be in first place if we win as our goal difference is better?

And you are right.

rae
19-02-2005, 14:54
quote from juve forum:
we [i.e. Juve] are the image of Italian football.
sounds quite arrogant or ironic...:rollani:


:haha:

Lombardia
19-02-2005, 15:24
still 0-0 but shevchenko has badly injured his cheekbone, and is a doubt for that manchester u game :(

Goirre
19-02-2005, 15:25
Our match started and as expected Nesta and Kaka are on the bench.

Dida N.
Cafu M.
Stam J.
Maldini P.
Pancaro G.
Brocchi C.
Pirlo A.
Seedorf C.
Rui Costa M.
Shevchenko A.
Tomasson J


FORZA MILAN!!!!

Goirre
19-02-2005, 15:25
Crespo in, Sheva out

hopefully nothing bad :(

Bayman
19-02-2005, 15:27
Didn't look serious at all.

SteVen
19-02-2005, 15:30
bad luck for Sheva!
We'll soon know if it's sth important...

rae
19-02-2005, 15:31
then why the sub was made?

SteVen
19-02-2005, 15:36
Bayman did you actually see Sheva's injury?
Did he bleed?

rae
19-02-2005, 15:37
please... guys tell what's happening... I am very anxious... they start is not convincible at all... Sheva's injury, Pepe's yellow...
what about playing quality...?

mihan
19-02-2005, 15:37
It doesn't make sense to have a painful face fighting in such a game, and a mask can be prepared in 2 days time.

Bayman
19-02-2005, 15:38
Didn't bleed. Just precaution.

Bayman
19-02-2005, 15:39
Esposito is causing quite some trouble for Pancaro. Already booked....

hwmook
19-02-2005, 15:55
sheva didn't look badly injured. he seem extremely pissed to be sub. we are totally in control of the game. its like 8-0 for corners. we had quite a few good chances but all blocked by their keeper who look to be in top form. but having both crespo and tomasson doesn't seem to work well. i hope kaka can sub in to replace tomasson. BTW seedorf seem to be on song today, waving in and out of the opposition's defense without losing a single ball. rui costa and cafu are pretty good too. basically the whole team is playing quite well.

SteVen
19-02-2005, 15:58
HT
Milan had some decent chances but weren't able to convert them once more!
Jankulovski having a party with Inter's right wing in Friouli...

Hope we get to win this, no matter which way, we need to go into the CL quarter-finals being leaders of Serie A!

Jim_UK
19-02-2005, 16:00
Is anyone using the chat room ?

ACMILAN1983
19-02-2005, 16:00
OH MAN!!! I thought the match was tomorrow!!!

Oh well, Juve had a poor result, lets hope we can get a good one ;)

FORZA MILAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Goirre
19-02-2005, 16:02
Kaka could come in, but he better be careful not to get a yellow card that would put him out of the derby. Dhorasoo and Sergio could also come in, why is Dhorasoo not playing lately anyway, is he injured? hope not.....well, we shall see

we are going to win this one :firedev:


FORZA MILAN!!!!!

Billy_Montreal
19-02-2005, 16:04
Tomasson had a good chance but came inches short of Seedorf's cross...
Brocchi is really hustling out there ..
hopefully its a matter of time before Crespo or Tomasson get a clear chance ..
Good to see Pirlo back and Rui is also adapting quite well given his absence from the starting line-up in quite a while

Jim_UK
19-02-2005, 16:05
More of the same in the 2nd half + some better finishing = we should be ok :D

Bayman
19-02-2005, 16:06
Dhorasoo isn't injured nor exhausted. He simply has no dressing room power and even Ambrosini is preferred to him despite having only 50% of his talent. Apparently some older players have an interest in not giving him playtime to not lose their starting spot.

hwmook
19-02-2005, 16:09
Kaka could come in, but he better be careful not to get a yellow card that would put him out of the derby. Dhorasoo and Sergio could also come in, why is Dhorasoo not playing lately anyway, is he injured? hope not.....well, we shall see

we are going to win this one :firedev:


FORZA MILAN!!!!!

because there isn't any place for him in the team yet. i don't mind Dhorasoo coming in, he should be able to create something. IMO we are wasting a player by using both crespo and tomasson because they tend to stay inside the box which is crowded out by the defense. we need more movement outside the box, like what seedorf is doing. i see that rui costa seem to be taking over the job of combining with cafu, together they stretched the opposition defense a great deal. and pirlo is also doing his job. we just need to take more chances outside the box and hope that the luck finally come.

and take pancaro off, he isn't even half the player he was last season. serginho would be more useful playing in his place.

ilgenio
19-02-2005, 16:10
wouldnt we technically be in first place if we win as our goal difference is better?

We'll be in joint 1st place. Goal difference does not matter in Serie A. If we're tied with Juve on points at the end of the season, then a 2-legged playoff will be played to decide who wins the scudetto.

ACMILAN1983
19-02-2005, 16:13
Second half begins

FORZA MILAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ilgenio
19-02-2005, 16:14
as far i know in italy a player misses a match after every 3 yellow cards and not 5!
correct me if i'm wrong

In Serie A, you'll get a suspension if a player has collected 4 yellow cards.

mihan
19-02-2005, 16:14
2nd half! Bring them back!!!

ACMILAN1983
19-02-2005, 16:17
We had a freekick which Pirlo layed off to Rui...but he puts it well over

We have possession as we start building another attack

FORZA MILAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ACMILAN1983
19-02-2005, 16:19
Crespo links up with JDT, who wastes a chance.

Possession still with us

FORZA MILAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jim_UK
19-02-2005, 16:22
go go go milanoooooooo

:3band:

On a side note, when will Rui-Costa learn to shoot properly :p1510:

ACMILAN1983
19-02-2005, 16:23
Esposito almost gets one for Calgliari after a Conti shot, however it goes wide.

We attack as Pancaro attacks and crosses, but its been dealt with.

Seedorf also has a crack, but its blocked

FORZA MILAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ACMILAN1983
19-02-2005, 16:25
Pirlo tries a long shot! Over!

Serginho on for Brocchi

FORZA MILAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jim_UK
19-02-2005, 16:26
Seedorf and Pirlo having a pop from all angles it seems ...... Lets hope Serginho can stretch their defence even more now he's on

ACMILAN1983
19-02-2005, 16:26
Veron scores for Inter

Serginho already making a contribution as he tries to pass through to Rui (I think)

FORZA MILAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bayman
19-02-2005, 16:28
Attractive, offensive football?
Watching THIS Milan team play is a complete boredom.
Where are the fantastic, creative players? The Donadoni's, Leonardo's and Savicevic's that lit up the San Siro few years ago?

Jim_UK
19-02-2005, 16:28
Real lost :haha:

ACMILAN1983
19-02-2005, 16:30
Rui does good work on the right and crosses, but Cagliari defend

FORZA MILAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Goirre
19-02-2005, 16:31
well, Sergio is in, for Brocchi

come on MILAN!! Forza ragazzi!

Jim_UK
19-02-2005, 16:32
Rui Costa with another poor shot ...

A few years ago Bayman ? Try almost a decade ago for 2 of those 3. I also think that people often see the past through rose tinted glasses and that it wasn't always wonderful football back then ..... it's just how people choose to remember it.

ACMILAN1983
19-02-2005, 16:37
RUI COMES CLOSE!!!!!!!!!

Apparently Kaka getting ready to come on!

FORZA MILAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jim_UK
19-02-2005, 16:38
Rui Costa shoots over after a storming run from Maldini

Goirre
19-02-2005, 16:38
Kaka in, JDT out

Rui - Kaka

Crespo

looking good, our goal is coming...FORZA MILAN!!!

ACMILAN1983
19-02-2005, 16:39
Kaka in for JDT

Good move imo, seems like the attackers haven't been getting involved in the build up. Having Kaka will mean having another player to help with the build up play

FORZA MILAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ACMILAN1983
19-02-2005, 16:42
Del Nevo for Zola

Pancaro is sent off!!!!!!

FORZA MILAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Goirre
19-02-2005, 16:43
Pancaro sent off!!!! damn.....


FORZA MILAN!!!!

ilgenio
19-02-2005, 16:43
Pancaro sent off for a 2nd yellow :wallbang: :googly:

Goirre
19-02-2005, 16:44
with Cafu pushing forward, it is all down to Paolo and Stam to defend....go MILAN!!!!

Jim_UK
19-02-2005, 16:46
COME ON FOR ****s SAKE !

zlatanov
19-02-2005, 16:47
at least Sergio is in and could cover both attack and defence on the left.
Pancaro acts like an 18-year-old in a very important game for Milan.
FORZA Milaaaaaaaaan!!!

Jeff
19-02-2005, 16:47
with Cafu pushing forward, it is all down to Paolo and Stam to defend....go MILAN!!!!

2-4-2-2 formation? :)

Bayman
19-02-2005, 16:47
Why didn't Ancelotti take him off before...for Dhorasoo? He was booked since 18th minute.

ACMILAN1983
19-02-2005, 16:48
Maldini gets yellow

FORZA MILAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Xudong
19-02-2005, 16:49
how much time is left?? damn it, inter must be very happy now.

ACMILAN1983
19-02-2005, 16:50
Suazo on for Abeijon

COME ON, LETS GET A GOAL!!!

Suazo gets yellow

Kaka has a shot saved

FORZA MILAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Xudong
19-02-2005, 16:50
maybe sheva shouldn't be replaced, that's the only that puzzles me.

Jim_UK
19-02-2005, 16:50
A manager can't legislate for a player making a stupid mistake and getting sent off. You can't bring someone on everytime someone gets booked.

Goirre
19-02-2005, 16:50
2-4-2-2 formation? :)

more like 2-4-1-2 ;)

7 minutes left, there is time...FORZA MILAN!!!

Goirre
19-02-2005, 16:51
great save by Dida! come on MILAN!!!

ACMILAN1983
19-02-2005, 16:52
Cagliari come close, but good save from Dida!

Cagliari attack

Rui also had a clear header at the back post, but missed

FORZA MILAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jim_UK
19-02-2005, 16:54
Rui Costa misses a header from a close position ..... he's completely useless at shooting/going for goal.

FORZA MILAN

Jim_UK
19-02-2005, 16:55
I haven't heard Crespo's name mentioned for ages .... or Kaka

ACMILAN1983
19-02-2005, 16:56
Protests by Milan about a handball by a Cagliari player, nothing given

Pisano for Langella

FORZA MILAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jim_UK
19-02-2005, 16:57
Now Crespo with another big miss .... why can't our players shoot properly ? What's going on.

ACMILAN1983
19-02-2005, 16:57
3 mins extra time

lets hope it'll be like Lazio!!

FORZA MILAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Goirre
19-02-2005, 16:57
90 minutes gone, extra time on....FORZA MILAN!!!

Bayman
19-02-2005, 16:57
Now we finally create some chances.
Play this lineup (single striker + 3 really creative players (Serginho, Rui, Kaka)) from the beginning and at full strength (not down to 10) and you have a winning team.

Goirre
19-02-2005, 16:58
GOoOOOAAAAAAALLLLL!!!!!!!!!!

Xudong
19-02-2005, 16:58
gol??????????????

HOVO
19-02-2005, 16:58
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOl

ACMILAN1983
19-02-2005, 16:59
Serginho!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THANK YOU! THANK YOU!THANK YOU!THANK YOU!THANK YOU!THANK YOU!THANK YOU!

FORZA MILAN!!!!!!!!!!!!


UDINESE SCORE!!!!

hwmook
19-02-2005, 16:59
we won. goal.

Goirre
19-02-2005, 16:59
and Udinese scores too!!!! Inter draw again!!! :D

Jeff
19-02-2005, 16:59
Who?!@!??@?#?!@?#?!@#

Xudong
19-02-2005, 16:59
I Am So Psyched!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!







SEEDORF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



AND INTER 1-1 UDINESS!!!!

hitmannq8
19-02-2005, 17:00
Are we like the only team not to beat Cagliari at home? I think almost every1 have done that so far!

Some preparation for the Manchester game :(.. This really makes me sick.. Juve drop points and we dont make any use of it.. Terrible.. Pancaro should be thrown in a trash can instead of being sold or loaned out

zlatanov
19-02-2005, 17:00
Yessssssss. We winnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
Inter draws in the last minute Udinese scored.

Jim_UK
19-02-2005, 17:00
I'm a bit confused with everything .... i think i've gone into shock or something :D

Jeff
19-02-2005, 17:00
Are we like the only team not to beat Cagliari at home? I think almost every1 have done that so far!

Some preparation for the Manchester game :(.. This really makes me sick.. Juve drop points and we dont make any use of it.. Terrible.. Pancaro should be thrown in a trash can instead of being sold or loaned out

Whta can I say to your comment? LOL

Xudong
19-02-2005, 17:01
ALL OF A SUDDEN, the gap between us and inter jumped from 7 to 11!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what a minute!!!!

zlatanov
19-02-2005, 17:01
Are we like the only team not to beat Cagliari at home? I think almost every1 have done that so far!

Some preparation for the Manchester game :(.. This really makes me sick.. Juve drop points and we dont make any use of it.. Terrible.. Pancaro should be thrown in a trash can instead of being sold or loaned out
old info. read the last enries in the forum.
We winnn man, we win.

GuySmiley
19-02-2005, 17:02
who scored? how?

Jeff
19-02-2005, 17:02
"The red card was flashed there as Cagliari protested against that Serginho thunderbolt... it's not clear who was sent off."

??

ACMILAN1983
19-02-2005, 17:02
FFFFFFFFUUUULLLLL TIIIIIMMMEEE!!!!

0 points in it!!!!

SERGINHO MOM! (maybe :tong: )

X-MEN continue on!!! :D

FORZA MILAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hwmook
19-02-2005, 17:02
Are we like the only team not to beat Cagliari at home? I think almost every1 have done that so far!

Some preparation for the Manchester game :(.. This really makes me sick.. Juve drop points and we dont make any use of it.. Terrible.. Pancaro should be thrown in a trash can instead of being sold or loaned out

i notice you. almost everytime you have to give negative comment. we played well, even if its a draw, we have already done well. your comment is not welcomed.

Jim_UK
19-02-2005, 17:02
A Serginho thunderbolt into the roof of the net .... this is all too much :haha:

Goirre
19-02-2005, 17:03
End of match.....FORZA MILAN!!!!

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