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Nadir
14-04-2005, 21:43
Source: http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/apr14h.html

The Italian government has backed zero-tolerance plans that could see League matches abandoned as soon as an object is thrown on to the pitch.

Italian teams will automatically lose games 3-0 under the new rules, which will come into place on Friday, if their fans are adjudged to have been the culprits.

The Italian authorities have taken the step after Tuesday’s Champions’ League derby between Inter and Milan was abandoned.

A section of the Nerazzurri support hurled bottles and flares on to the field of play, with one hitting Milan ‘keeper Dida on the shoulder.

There was also some minor crowd trouble at the Stadio Delle Alpi on Wednesday during Juventus’ match against Liverpool.

The Interior Ministry announced the measures today after a meeting with the Italian Football Federation and the Italian Olympic Committee.

"It's important that football clubs increase their co-operation with forces of order and increase dialogue with supporters," stated Federation chief Franco Carraro.

"We have the desire that this season’s championships can end in a climate of peace and harmony.

"We are in a very delicate situation and we needed an emergency solution. We hope that these measures won’t need to be taken but they will if necessary."

However, the new rules haven’t been welcomed by everyone in the Italian game, who fear they could cause more trouble.

"Carraro’s decision has surprised me," said Palermo chief and League Vice-president Maurizio Zamparini.

"He is an intelligent person but he will soon realise that he can’t give one fan the power to stop a match simply because his side is losing."

Brescia owner Gino Corioni mirrored those views, as he rightly fears that some fans could intentionally go into rival ends to get matches stopped.

"The idea that a side can lose a match after one flare is thrown is not right," he said.

"The derby illustrated that fact. Every club has a group of mad fans who will look to damage a rival club if they know they can.

"This way we are making clubs a hostage to fans. This is sheer madness."
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This is too much. I mean talk about a snap-reaction! The whole league is held hostage to insane fans now. The whole season could be decided by 3-0 victories awarded to teams and we'll end up seeing the best behaved teams win instead of the best teams win the Scudetto.

Simple solution: Ban closed bottles, flares and metal objects from entering the stadium. If the Ultras object, then give that team the 3-0 loss. The ultras will eventually succumb because they don't want to see their team lose 3-0 every week.

Staci
15-04-2005, 07:17
Did I read this right ? This is actually a "RULE" as of Friday ? This has chaos written all over it. Clearly many teams are going to be held at the whim of the supporters, The lower end teams will have nothing to lose, and unforunatley as already stated all teams have a group af mad fans. I truly hope the obvious error of this rule will be ammended as quickly as possible.

Debs
15-04-2005, 07:36
Italian teams will automatically lose games 3-0 under the new rules, which will come into place on Friday, if their fans are adjudged to have been the culprits.



:stupid: Sounds like a total knee-jerk reaction to me! And to play devil's advocate, I already have a question--suppose fans from both sides throw things on the field? Is this actually to be read as which fans throw things on the field FIRST?

There could be a brighter side if they work out the kinks--calmer heads would prevail, the fans policing each other. This game needs to lose its bad boy hooligan image!

Nadir
15-04-2005, 08:08
Trained rhehus monkeys coulda come up with a better rule than this. If both teams throw objects at the same time, is the score 3-3? Will all games be decided on the quality and number of objects thrown? The fewer the objects the more the points.

Debs
15-04-2005, 08:43
Now it's starting to sound like we're talking about the Italian Tiddlywinks League!!! :nail:

Staci
15-04-2005, 09:34
Was there a disiplinary action taken against the Inter Club ?

Nadir
15-04-2005, 11:40
yes: http://www.uefa.com/competitions/UCL/news/Kind=1/newsId=295903.html
Stadium ban and fine for Inter
Friday, 15 April 2005
UEFA's Control and Disciplinary Body has ordered FC Internazionale Milano to play their next six European club competition matches behind closed doors. Of these six matches, the last two are under a probationary period of three years according to Article 15 bis of the disciplinary regulations.

Fine handed out
This means that if a further offence is committed during the probationary period, the disciplinary body may order the original sanction to be executed in addition to disciplinary sanctions for the second offence. In addition, Inter have been fined 300,000 CHF.

Milan go through
The UEFA Champions League quarter-final second-leg tie has been awarded to AC Milan as a 3-0 forfeit and Milan therefore go through to the semi-finals on a 5-0 aggregate. An appeal against any of these decisions can be submitted within three days from the receipt of the written grounds.


YAY. Milan win 3-0 :D

Reza
15-04-2005, 12:20
Fined and awarding of the match ofcourse, but as I expected nothing much more than stadium bans. The bigger problem remains but thats for them to deal with ;)

Nadir
15-04-2005, 12:23
CONGRATULATIONS - WE Won 3-0 HEHEHHEHEH. 5-0 aggregate. Another slaughter of our neighbours lol

ACMILAN1983
15-04-2005, 16:44
Inter got off lightly, but I'm not bothered.

I'm annoyed that Sheva's goal isn't counted for top scorers, yet Nesta's card stands. Surely thats hypocritical of UEFA (though it wouldn't be the first time)

Nadir
16-04-2005, 22:56
the goal counts.