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omg is this happens milan is stupid.
de rossi is 1 of the best defensive midfielders IMO. why doesn't milan try to catch em. they always come to late...
savage_mau
06-01-2006, 07:04
omg is this happens milan is stupid.
de rossi is 1 of the best defensive midfielders IMO. why doesn't milan try to catch em. they always come to late...
??? I not so sure wat u try to speak.De Rossi is a good player but Milan already have enought cover in the midfield.I dont think getting De Rossi is a must now.(maybe future)>Milan would rather focus in getting defender.We do have Vogel,Ambrosini,Janku,Rui, that can cover Kaka,Pirli,Seedorf and Gattu.
GRE-NO-LI
06-01-2006, 07:57
De Rossi is a great young player, a lot better than Vogel, so I guess it will be a good deal to get him.
zlatanov
06-01-2006, 08:34
We shouldn't underestimate Vogel - he suffers from playing little and can't show his quality. If De Rossi was in this same situation, he would be shaky at times as well.
On De Rossi - he is a very good player with lots of potential but he won't come cheap and if we will have to pay up, IMO there are better players out there to spend on - Diarra and Mascherano come to mind.
de rossi is a player i admire alot, if hes available then i think we should look to get him
why do we need De Rossi? He's a good player but we have Ambrosini, Vogel, Gattuso we would have to sell somebody and still he rott on the bench, maybe for the future
why do we need De Rossi? He's a good player but we have Ambrosini, Vogel, Gattuso we would have to sell somebody and still he rott on the bench, maybe for the future
why, because they are OLD, get it now. pirlo and kaka are the only young midfielders in milan.
de rossi is one of my favorit midfielders together with schweinsteiger.
always talking about prices. we only bought 1 player in latsest 2 years.
gila==> +-20mil €
if we won't spend money, we won't be great team. in 2 years we should buy whole new squad. lets do it in pieces.
gila and kaka was a good turn in right direction. thats all i am saying
GRE-NO-LI
06-01-2006, 16:13
You are correct, Prifess: the logical, rational option is to build a new squad little by little, purchasing 2 or 3 top class players per season, or we will have to buy a whole pack of players in a very short time, which is obviously a much harder and expensive task.
The purchase of players like Kaka and Gila is really the way to be followed if we want to form a great team.
omg is this happens milan is stupid.
de rossi is 1 of the best defensive midfielders IMO. why doesn't milan try to catch em. they always come to late...
I supposed everyone in this forum take everything just like fantasy football..
Milan is a club who's not spend money like Real or Chelsea or even Inter...
Milan Will NEVER buy somoene like Cassano or Ibra who are Difficult to handle.
Look at milan purchase over these years ....
Milan Bought :
- Sheva
- Kaka
- Nesta
- Pirlo
I don't say that De Rossi is a Bad Boy but i think he is only a good player..
good player never plays for milan , Milan only buy GREAT ONE !!!
and Also good players who have Milan's heart !! Just Like Gattuso !!
I also have many2 fantasy in my tought :
Why dont we bring the best to San Siro ?? RONALDINHO ??
savage_mau
07-01-2006, 05:02
I supposed everyone in this forum take everything just like fantasy football..
Milan is a club who's not spend money like Real or Chelsea or even Inter...
Milan Will NEVER buy somoene like Cassano or Ibra who are Difficult to handle.
Look at milan purchase over these years ....
Milan Bought :
- Sheva
- Kaka
- Nesta
- Pirlo
I don't say that De Rossi is a Bad Boy but i think he is only a good player..
good player never plays for milan , Milan only buy GREAT ONE !!!
and Also good players who have Milan's heart !! Just Like Gattuso !!
I also have many2 fantasy in my tought :
Why dont we bring the best to San Siro ?? RONALDINHO ??
I agree with you!!!! We cant take every good player and put them as bench warmer!!! They will complain of lack of first team and the problem there start.Just like Vieri.(complain) at least vogel , Janku and rui never make noise lack of first team.De Rossi is a young player that need to find a team that can give him play match regular.Or can Milan give de rossi a place in first 11 and put either Gattuso or Pirlo or Kaka or Seedorf in the bench for every match ??( I mean if there is mo injury problem)
well that makes seedorf a potentional bench warmer.
de rossi is beter then him.
they can rotate btw. only pirlo and kaka have there place on midfield IMO.
hope milan will open there eyes that the average age without kaka and gila is +-30. (pirlo is also young).
milan has an attitude of leaving there youngsters on the bench. look at gila at the beginning of the season, he was 2nd choice. now he is top scorer in serie A.
they should work on the future of the club.
why, because they are OLD, get it now. pirlo and kaka are the only young midfielders in milan.
de rossi is one of my favorit midfielders together with schweinsteiger.
always talking about prices. we only bought 1 player in latsest 2 years.
gila==> +-20mil €
if we won't spend money, we won't be great team. in 2 years we should buy whole new squad. lets do it in pieces.
gila and kaka was a good turn in right direction. thats all i am saying
our midfield is not old... old is when u reach the mid 30s and most are still in the late 20's ... which is the best age for a midfielder... i dont care if de rossi is young or not, i just like him because of the way he plays and if ballack can come here so can de rossi, if we can get ballack/de rossi/diarra then i would be very happy because despite having great bench players like janku and vogel and ambro ... those 3 are extremely versatile (not diarra though) and can play in atleast 3 of our midfield positions. and despite the defence being the priority to rebuild, i think we also need one of those midfielders or some1 similar as well as a fast small striker instead of vieri or inzaghi.
GRE-NO-LI
07-01-2006, 09:03
a good player never plays for milan , Milan only buy GREAT ONE !!!
What about Contra, Laursen, Helveg, Ba, Dugarry, etc, etc, etc?
GRE-NO-LI
07-01-2006, 09:12
milan has an attitude of leaving there youngsters on the bench. look at gila at the beginning of the season, he was 2nd choice. now he is top scorer in serie A.
they should work on the future of the club.
That's exactly the way I think: we must give a chance to youngster players, we can't go on forever with a squad of veterans.
zlatanov
07-01-2006, 09:32
What about Contra, Laursen, Helveg, Ba, Dugarry, etc, etc, etc?
exactly his point! what about them? ... nothing, just a waste of time, money, and hopes.
why, because they are OLD, get it now. pirlo and kaka are the only young midfielders in milan.
de rossi is one of my favorit midfielders together with schweinsteiger.
always talking about prices. we only bought 1 player in latsest 2 years.
gila==> +-20mil €
if we won't spend money, we won't be great team. in 2 years we should buy whole new squad. lets do it in pieces.
gila and kaka was a good turn in right direction. thats all i am saying
Who is old? They have 27, 28 and that's old for you come on. They can play for 5 years and more and for that time De Rossi will sit on the bench you want that to happen
We don't need a DM we have a lot of players who can play that position, we need defenders desperately
exactly his point! what about them? ... nothing, just a waste of time, money, and hopes.
You are 100% Correct Zlatanov , to buy someone like Laursen , Ba , Duggary is Useless ... That's why Milan won't buy either Cassano and also De Rossi..
Beleive Me right now what Milan need is'nt a Defensive Mid .. I beleive that Lugano is Coming, Maybe Oddo ... I don't know ....
BUT... What I know 100% is that what are Galliani and CO Decide ( Buy a new Players ) will be a BETTER AND WISER than just BRING DE ROSSI !!!
well that makes seedorf a potentional bench warmer.
de rossi is beter then him.
This is a joke right??
De Rossi can't touch the technical, physical, tactical realms of Seedorf. Arguably the most complete midfielder in world football. Only someone like Ballack, or Gerard could replace Clarence in our team, and they would still need work to understand the movements need to play in his position.
zlatanov
07-01-2006, 12:08
This is a joke right??
De Rossi can't touch the technical, physical, tactical realms of Seedorf. Arguably the most complete midfielder in world football.
My sentiments exactly - De rossi isn't and will never come even close to becoming a player of Seedorf's calibre. True the italian is still very young and has all the time in the world to improve but what he doesn't have, and what time cannot give him, is the talent and "feel for the game" that Seedorf has in abundance. This is something you don't acquire, you are born with it.
This is a joke right??
De Rossi can't touch the technical, physical, tactical realms of Seedorf. Arguably the most complete midfielder in world football. Only someone like Ballack, or Gerard could replace Clarence in our team, and they would still need work to understand the movements need to play in his position.
i agree with you totally how can De Rossi be better than Seedorf???
Seedorf can play any position in midfield while De Rossi can play good only in DM
he hasn't got the skils and technique of Seedorf. :neww:
You just can't compare that kind of players. :smileani:
u have a poit. de rossi isn't beter then seedorf. but still he is great addition.
like i said ROTATION!
(de rossi can play left midfield)
but don't miss the poit of the others:
dungary, lausen, ambrosini,... all waste of money, salaries,...
we agree on:
-pointless players in our squad
==> costs lots of money
-our squad is (a lill') to old
-chances to youth
u have a poit. de rossi isn't beter then seedorf. but still he is great addition.
like i said ROTATION!
(de rossi can play left midfield)
but don't miss the poit of the others:
dungary, lausen, ambrosini,... all waste of money, salaries,...
we agree on:
-pointless players in our squad
==> costs lots of money
-our squad is (a lill') to old
-chances to youth
I wouldn't call Ambro a waste of money, some others yes.
We should only sign players that are good enough, and also fit in the system of play. De Rossi is good, but IMO we'd have to change the midfield shape to play him, or at least have 2 wb's who attack, so he can cover them.
GRE-NO-LI
07-01-2006, 15:04
You are 100% Correct Zlatanov , to buy someone like Laursen , Ba , Duggary is Useless ... That's why Milan won't buy either Cassano and also De Rossi..
I don't think that Cassano is useless, not at all; to me he's a fantastic player, perfectly fitted to succeed at the highest level on a club like Milan.
GRE-NO-LI
07-01-2006, 15:06
De Rossi is good, but IMO we'd have to change the midfield shape to play him, or at least have 2 wb's who attack, so he can cover them.
I love that system of play, with two wb's attacking all the time and causing havoc to the enemy's retaguard.
I love that system of play, with two wb's attacking all the time and causing havoc to the enemy's retaguard.
Also means you try to play from the wings into centre when mid & att have ball , so the wb's can exploit the space created. Works well vs team with no wingers, and box forwards, and smaller teams.
I don't think that Cassano is useless, not at all; to me he's a fantastic player, perfectly fitted to succeed at the highest level on a club like Milan.
For Milan Fans ... I have said it before ...
Milan will never buy a BAD BOY !! somoene they cannot handle...
Cassano had the talent ... But His Personality can make a team not in a harmony... I read in some paper that in His Current club ( Roma ) he doesn't have any close friend other than Mancini..
That's why a club like MILAN will never buy someone selfish like him..
Maybe You guys who admire him so much can buy him in CM !!!
But in the morning you will realise that you are living in the real world !!
That's why we bought KAKA ... not Cassano..
kaka is 100x beter then cassano IMO.
now well i like style to attacking WB (havent we played like that all the time?)
cafu or/and kaladze infiltrating.
now we'll see. probably we won't sign any player. or just another player who sucks and can't get a contract (ref. vogel)
GRE-NO-LI
08-01-2006, 11:20
kaka is 100x beter then cassano IMO.
now well i like style to attacking WB (havent we played like that all the time?)
cafu or/and kaladze infiltrating.
now we'll see. probably we won't sign any player. or just another player who sucks and can't get a contract (ref. vogel)
Kaka belongs to another league, for sure. He's a fuoriclasse, and Cassano is just a very good player (a whole lot better than Inzaghi or Vieri, one must recognize...). And regarding your pessimism, unfortunatelly I couldn't agree more, because our board is not reacting with the correct frame of mind on recent times. :scream: :scream: :scream:
No way, if Cassano is focused hes as good as any one else.
cassano is like ibrahimovic, some1 who plays on his own.
he is't really in to the game. he needs to find the real pleasure thats all.
then he is outstanding.
kaka is yea way to good for milan at this moment...
milan should take more risks.
and also be more involved in the transfer market. buying and selling
GRE-NO-LI
08-01-2006, 14:11
milan should take more risks.
and also be more involved in the transfer market. buying and selling
That's it: we need to get more involved, take risks, reshufle the squad.
That's it: we need to get more involved, take risks, reshufle the squad.
Take more risk??
You mean like Real Madrid?? or Inter ???
Maybe ,If you like a club who can sells and buy easily , you have a wrong club to support..Milan Will NEVER ever buy BIG players easily like Real or Inter.
Milan Will NEVER buy a BAD BOY.. That's so simple...
Milan will only splash big money if the president sure the player will become BIG , someone like Sheva , Gila who's cost us fortune..
Maybe one day Berlu can't resist that Milan Need to Risk on RONALDINHO..
that's a possibility .... that's also a dream...
Cassano ?? NO WAY....
Even for free , Berlu won't accept him... ( Bad Boy )
But maybe Galliani want him because he is cheap , then we can make money ou of it..
GRE-NO-LI
08-01-2006, 17:26
Well, Seven, I love Milan since 1987, and I learned to admire a side gifted with a bold outlook, not a narrow minded one. I don't wanna Milan to be like Inter or Real Madrid, buying and selling players endlessly, but I also dont wanna a board without the necessary courage to see what is not working well and so going to work on changes.
Well, Seven, I love Milan since 1987, and I learned to admire a side gifted with a bold outlook, not a narrow minded one. I don't wanna Milan to be like Inter or Real Madrid, buying and selling players endlessly, but I also dont wanna a board without the necessary courage to see what is not working well and so going to work on changes.
That's exactly what i'am talking abot.. we don't want our team to be ended like Inter or Real.. that's why I said we never bought players who's hard to handle...
It doesn't matter who loves milan the most.. but i think whoever loves this club will know how Galliani CS think.. They 'll Never splash BIG2 money to buy BAD BOY... That's why we don't compete to buy Mutu.. ( He is free )
I even don't remember when i :5att: milan.. But what I remember.. We Never have a stupid , Big headed players who just play for them self , Not for the team..
well i am not saying they should use same strategy. but they should invest then in a player.
i don't want 'bad boys' i want quality, diseplinary players in milan.
inter and real arent succesfull, i know that. but be lil more involved.
like say: buying 1 player eacht year. (not giving a contract to an unemployed player, or a player who is transfer free)
well that was my oppinion. youngsters are the future not 30+ ;)
should be a balance between youth and expierence
should be a balance between youth and expierence
Yeah i agree there should be a balance, but for big matches experienced players are better.
I don't want we end up like Arsenal with all those youngsters, they are sh!t :yuck:
GRE-NO-LI
09-01-2006, 12:08
well that was my oppinion. youngsters are the future not 30+ ;)
should be a balance between youth and expierence
I fully agree with that! The club does not have to discard experienced players, of course, but now his accquiring policy must be focused on talented young players, in order of building a strong squad for the years to come.
Regarding the question of purchasing or not 'bad boys', I only want to say that Milan is a football club, not a convent of armelite nuns! :haha: :haha: :haha: Ok, I'm not really commending the purchase of 'bad boys' as some kind of weird 'rule', but if the guy has enough talent to compensante his 'bad' manners, I guess it's valuable to take the risk!
but if the guy has enough talent to compensante his 'bad' manners, I guess it's valuable to take the risk!
idd.
and btw acmir, arsenal is't that bad... they got some great youngsters.
fabregas, van persi(i dont like em),...
lets say we should buy good young players. i don't mean necesarry by youg <18y
IMO youg is about 16-23 but certainly younger then 28.
now like i said. De Rossi is a potentional star.
btw where is all OUR youth. in the last 20years i havent seen 1 single milan player in the A team.
not really motivating for our youngsters if they don't get chances
We need to scout as good as Chelsea has been doing... just not paying 50 million euros for a player when 5 million would have sealed the deal... but they're buying quality players... and most importantly: hungy players... hungry for glory, trophies...
unlike Real Madrid, who buys Golden Ball winners only, players who have won it all, and don't have any passion left, except for the big money $$$... mercenaries of merchandising...
we need good players, but with margin to grow... that's how players like Sheva arrived... plus, we NEED to trust our youngsters from the Primavera squad... we keep
saying Marzoratti lacks the experience... but there's just one way to get experience... playing... that's how Maldini and Costacurta started... we can't loan out everybody...
GRE-NO-LI
09-01-2006, 15:13
and most importantly: hungy players... hungry for glory, trophies... (...)plus, we NEED to trust our youngsters from the Primavera squad... we keep
saying Marzoratti lacks the experience... but there's just one way to get experience... playing... that's how Maldini and Costacurta started... we can't loan out everybody...
I couldn't agree more with you, Sant: in fact we are in bad need of more players hungry for trophies, with the necessary guts to succeed at the highest level. And we also really need to employ the primavera players, Marzoratti is a great prospect, he just need more experience on gameplay.
what is the purpose of this thread? its a waste of time. the same people who don't want us to buy useless players suggest we spend money to buy some players who might never get to be in the first team, isn't that a waste of money? what kind of contradicting post is this? we don't need any more players in MF, our MFs and attackers are either young or in their prime age and you don't talk about replacing them at this time.
what we should focus on is getting all the best defenders, wing backs we can find and get them to come here. they are what we really need NOW. the way i see it, we can be left with only maldini, nesta and simic for the 2 CB and RB at the end of season. and with maldini leaving next season, i can't believe we don't even have enough defenders to field. how can we ever allowed this to happened?
what is the purpose of this thread? its a waste of time. the same people who don't want us to buy useless players suggest we spend money to buy some players who might never get to be in the first team, isn't that a waste of money? what kind of contradicting post is this? we don't need any more players in MF, our MFs and attackers are either young or in their prime age and you don't talk about replacing them at this time.
what we should focus on is getting all the best defenders, wing backs we can find and get them to come here. they are what we really need NOW. the way i see it, we can be left with only maldini, nesta and simic for the 2 CB and RB at the end of season. and with maldini leaving next season, i can't believe we don't even have enough defenders to field. how can we ever allowed this to happened?
finally a good post i agree with you totally :cool:
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