Coppa Italia: Palermo vs. Milan [Archive]

SANT

30-01-2006, 16:00

From acmilan.it

'The Italian Cup is our priority because we have the chance of getting to the semi-finals. It’s true that this competition has been a bit snubbed at the start, but now it has come alive and more interesting. Anyway, the Italian Cup is our third objective of the season. It’s a competition that helps keeping everyone’s motivation going until the end. Hopefully we can do that this year again.' Carlo Ancleotti

GOALKEEPERSI: Dida, Fiori, Kalac.

DEFENDERS: Cafu, Kaladze, Marzoratti, Nesta, Jankulovski, Simic, Stam.

MIDFIELDERS: Gattuso, Kakà, Pirlo, Seedorf, Serginho, Vogel.

STRIKERS: Amoroso, Inzaghi, Gilardino, Shevchenko

SANT

30-01-2006, 16:02

my line up:

Kalac
Cafu, Simic, Kaladze, Jankulovsky
Kaka', Gattuso, Vogel, Seedorf
Amoroso, Gilardino

Why isn't Rui Costa listed?

Hitman

30-01-2006, 17:06

Rui is out injured, so probable lineup will be:

Kalac - Cafu, Simic, Costacurta, Kaladze - Gattuso, Vogel, Jankulovski - Kaka - Gilardino, Amoroso.

SANT

30-01-2006, 17:27

Costacurta is out also...

SANT

30-01-2006, 21:36

Palermo has a new coach, Del Neri was fired...

PALERMO - Dal sito ufficiale del Palermo i 22 convocati di Giuseppe Papadopulo per Palermo-Milan:

Portieri: Andujar, Lupatelli, Sirigu

Difensori: Accardi, Barzagli, Biava, Conteh, Ferri, Grosso, Rinaudo, Terlizzi, Zaccardo

Centrocampisti: Barone, Bonanni, Corini, Gonzalez, Mutarelli, Santana

Attaccanti: Brienza, Caracciolo, Di Michele, Godeas.

hitmannq8

31-01-2006, 02:06

This should be a game for those players who need minutes like: Jankulovski, Vogel, Cafu, Sheva (its been a while now that he hasnt been in good form), DIDA and Amoroso. Im looking forward to seeing the Sheva/Amoroso partnership. Dida should play this game, cuz its one of those 'Coppa italia' games which relieve pressure on the players and bring out the best of them because of its unimportance.

Whats going on with Ambro?

Sweendogs

31-01-2006, 12:06

when is the game, and does anyone have any links to the game? Hola if you have any

devoted_dm

31-01-2006, 13:02

The game starts at 21:00 CET, and here's a link: click (http://footballtvs.com/watch/live/stream/cctv5-live-streams.htm)

Sweendogs

31-01-2006, 14:50

any more links, seems to be nothing for that one

zlatanov

31-01-2006, 14:58

To anyone interested in P2P streaming:
Go to: http://www.pplive.com/english/download.shtml
On the left there are a number of links (one below the other) for downloading PPLive 1.1.0.7 - latest version IN ENGLISH. Yeah, this one has all the channels in the channel list in english.
Once you have DLed the .exe file, install PPLive and voila - a channel called CCTV5 (there is an 800 KB/s version too - CCTV5[800 K]) is showing the game.
Good night and good luck :)

Forza Milaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan !!!

Bosniaco

31-01-2006, 15:05

Kaladze is our capitan today interasting...

Bosniaco

31-01-2006, 15:08

I don't understand what formation Carlo is using in this game and is he playing Cafu in midfield?

MILAN: Kalac; Simic, Nesta, Stam, Kaladze; Cafu, Vogel, Seedorf, Jankulovski; Kakà, Gilardino. Coach: Ancelotti.

Bosniaco

31-01-2006, 15:11

Kako was close to score from like 4 yard out but the goalkeeper did well

Sweendogs

31-01-2006, 15:11

4-4-2 yes he is

Bosniaco

31-01-2006, 15:12

what a goal

Bosniaco

31-01-2006, 15:13

1:0 Palermo

Sweendogs

31-01-2006, 15:14

who got it for palermo damnnnnn

zlatanov

31-01-2006, 15:17

Kaka missed a gift in the small PA of Palermo and a minute after that Kalac got surprised from 30 meters out by a floater from a Palermo player, Gonzalez I think. Nice goal but it was from just too far away.
The field is nasty, btw, soaked with water and maybe Kalac slipped a bit on the water pool right infront of his goal

Graeme C

31-01-2006, 15:20

2-0 wtf, were being finger licked

Acmir^

31-01-2006, 15:22

great play by milan f**k
2:0 we don't have defense

Jeff

31-01-2006, 15:23

At least now no one can blame Dida.

Bosniaco

31-01-2006, 15:24

wow our defence dows suck big time

Acmir^

31-01-2006, 15:25

we just don't have luck with goalkeepers

devoted_dm

31-01-2006, 15:28

I feel like crying :(

Jeff

31-01-2006, 15:31

we just don't have luck with goalkeepers

absolutely disagree.

Samaldinho

31-01-2006, 15:35

Carraciollo is causing all sorts of problems, as is playing Cafu on the right side of midfield.. Milan is not a 4-4-2 team, and right now Milan is playing 4-4-1-1, which is even worse.

Bosniaco

31-01-2006, 15:38

If we keep playing like this we will never win

devoted_dm

31-01-2006, 15:40

We just need one goal, provided they don't score again.

Warro Bantan

31-01-2006, 15:42

What is the aggregate score? I am too fed up to try to research it...plus, any insight on how it is we are playing...apart from badly? :d55:

Acmir^

31-01-2006, 15:44

absolutely disagree.

i meant to say our goalkeepers are making mistakes and yes they are human beings they can make a mistake you didn't understand me well

devoted_dm

31-01-2006, 15:44

The aggregate score is 2-1 to Palermo right now. We need one goal, and we're though to the next round on the away goals rule.

peters

31-01-2006, 15:45

it was 1:0 in milan, so we can loose by one goal today....

Warro Bantan

31-01-2006, 15:46

Ok, cool, thanks devoted dm and peters...now, can I please be told how it is that we are playing..poor passing in the middle, too many long balls...poor final pass..what is going on?

Acmir^

31-01-2006, 15:46

What is the aggregate score? I am too fed up to try to research it...plus, any insight on how it is we are playing...apart from badly? :d55:

The aggregate score now is 2:1 for Palermo, if we score one and not concede we'll go through, and we are playing catastrophic Carlo must change something at HT

Graeme C

31-01-2006, 15:49

if we lose is that a big enoth excuse to kick out ancelloti?

i gave up trying to do that ppp stream thingy...

Acmir^

31-01-2006, 15:51

they are so close to scoring a third goal i think Di Michele (but i'm not sure) was one on one with Kalac and he missed just by the post we had luck there but we are playing terribleeee

Jeff

31-01-2006, 15:52

if we lose is that a big enoth excuse to kick out ancelloti?

i gave up trying to do that ppp stream thingy...

No. IF we lost we should fine every single one in Milan for a week of their wages. I think the players have now REALLY gone arrogant. Giving up passes SO easily, JUST SO EASILY that you doubt if they have EVER trained during training session.

Jeff

31-01-2006, 15:53

If this is FM06, I'll probably storm the team in the dressing room. They should all get their ass kicked.

Bosniaco

31-01-2006, 15:53

they are so close to scoring a third goal i think Di Michele (but i'm not sure) was one on one with Kalac and he missed just by the post we had luck there but we are playing terribleeee
Yes, but we could have scored too. We played very bad, if Carlo doesn't change anything at half time I doubt we are going to score today.

Jeff

31-01-2006, 15:54

Yes, but we could have scored too. We played very bad, if Carlo doesn't change anything at half time I doubt we are going to score today.

IMHO, it doesn't matter whether Carlo changes anything. If the attidude of the players don't chg, they are goign to be f***ed for sure.

Graeme C

31-01-2006, 15:55

u have to point the finger somewhere, ancelloti isnt motivating the squad.....

Warro Bantan

31-01-2006, 16:00

Well, from these posts :rollani:...which I am grateful for, even though they are loaded with criticism, but not enough detail...it seems that Carlo´s decision to play his "first" team is justified...as with Vogel and Marek on the pitch, we have dropped in standard...or so it seems...

Suffice it to say, I wont lose any sleep if we get kicked out of the Italian Cup...its a nonsense trophy..what..the winner gets into the UEFA Cup? Please..thats a competition for "also rans", and "mid-table teams" (which in truth we are closer to than "league leaders")...and with the all important second place to play for, we need to have our key players rested for our second trip to the Stadio Olimpico to face LAZIO...another team I love to hate.

Jeff

31-01-2006, 16:02

u have to point the finger somewhere, ancelloti isnt motivating the squad.....

Oh ya, we should have sacked him the first day we hire him because he isn't motivating the squad for the 4 years he has been coaching.

This is just nonsense. If the players have achieved a CL, a serie A title and a italian cup winner, a runner-up in CL, a runner-up in serie A title, and you say he didn't motivate the players.

That's fine. He doesn't motivate the players from day one, if he is not a motivator. The fact that his past proves that he is capable of achievement mean sthat the players this time have to take the blame. If it's a tactical error, that's the coach fault.

Graeme C

31-01-2006, 16:05

its trophies tho, its something to aim for. If we win the coppa, we can play juve for the super coppa......But the way things are going il be surprised if we qualify for the uefa cup....

devoted_dm

31-01-2006, 16:05

Aaaand we're out of the cup. 3-0 now.

Warro Bantan

31-01-2006, 16:06

How did the 3rd goal score please..someone?

Graeme C

31-01-2006, 16:08

Oh ya, we should have sacked him the first day we hire him because he isn't motivating the squad for the 4 years he has been coaching.

This is just nonsense. If the players have achieved a CL, a serie A title and a italian cup winner, a runner-up in CL, a runner-up in serie A title, and you say he didn't motivate the players.

That's fine. He doesn't motivate the players from day one, if he is not a motivator. The fact that his past proves that he is capable of achievement mean sthat the players this time have to take the blame. If it's a tactical error, that's the coach fault.

errrrrrrrr?
what im saying is Ancelloti has had his time, hes run out of ideas with the squad. The players should be giving a 100%, and it is up to the manager to push them. Look at liverpool after the break at the champ league final.......

Xudong

31-01-2006, 16:08

this is depressing.. :(

Bosniaco

31-01-2006, 16:08

Kalac sucks, Simic worst **** this bull****

devoted_dm

31-01-2006, 16:09

This is going to be a really embarrasing defeat. I predict 4 or 5-0. :(

Jeff

31-01-2006, 16:09

errrrrrrrr?
what im saying is Ancelloti has had his time, hes run out of ideas with the squad. The players should be giving a 100%, and it is up to the manager to push them. Look at liverpool after the break at the champ league final.......

I understand, and i cannot counter your argument

Bosniaco

31-01-2006, 16:10

Look at Carlo's face, he know what is going on.

Graeme C

31-01-2006, 16:10

btw hows Barzagli playin?

Bosniaco

31-01-2006, 16:10

Inzaghi in for Simic

Graeme C

31-01-2006, 16:11

3-4-1-2 formation then?

Bosniaco

31-01-2006, 16:11

btw hows Barzagli playin?
He is not doing anything, we suck !! There is nothing to do for Barzagli.

Warro Bantan

31-01-2006, 16:12

This is crazy...and signals Carlo´s death knell.....even if its "only" the Italian Cup..Milan dont lose by this sort of a margin, and worse playing (from all posts) like a bunch of clueless idiots.

I am quite dismayed at this result...2-0 I can stomach..but a 3-0 defeat, which could prove even greater by the end of the 2nd half is too much to bear..

Thanks guys for the info, but I am going to go now, and concentrate on the job that is paying me, rather than inflict more torture on myself..

but...FORZA MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILAN!!! (anyway)

Bosniaco

31-01-2006, 16:12

3-4-1-2 formation then?
I guess...

Graeme C

31-01-2006, 16:12

He is not doing anything, we suck !! There is nothing to do for Barzagli.

hahaha, this is embarrasing

Graeme C

31-01-2006, 16:15

imagine galliani tomorrow morning---

"we have complete faith in ......"

is that like a recorded message or something? ive heard it so much recently..

devoted_dm

31-01-2006, 16:16

Yeah, this is definitely the beginning of the end for Carlo. I don't think this will go over too well with the club's management and the Prez. I know it's "just the Coppa Italia," but god damn!
At this point I would actually say that we should get a short-term replacement for Carlo, just to get someone with fresh new ideas that could re-motivate the players.

Bosniaco

31-01-2006, 16:16

They st scored 4th one

hitmannq8

31-01-2006, 16:17

they were close to number 4 after he was left free in the area after POOR defending by a comination of stam/nesta

Graeme C

31-01-2006, 16:17

Cesare Maldini has to be fav for short term take over

Bosniaco

31-01-2006, 16:18

Yes, this is just "Coppa Italia", let me tell you this (you already know)we are out for the Scudetto, all we have left is Champions League. Now we get knocked out off Champ League we are done.

devoted_dm

31-01-2006, 16:20

Yes, this is just "Coppa Italia", let me tell you this (you already know)we are out for the Scudetto, all we have left is Champions League. Now we get knocked out off Champ League we are done.

I know, and it's making me really upset. We were supposed to be challenging on all fronts, not suffering through embarrassing s.h.i.t. like this.

Warro Bantan

31-01-2006, 16:21

Is Stam in at right back or CB?

Xudong

31-01-2006, 16:21

probably every season we ought to have at least one 0-4? :o

Graeme C

31-01-2006, 16:21

no way were going to win champ league, bayern are good

Bosniaco

31-01-2006, 16:21

Pirlo in for Janku and Serginho for Kaladze

Graeme C

31-01-2006, 16:22

Is Stam in at right back or CB?

i dont think he knows what hes doing anymore

Bosniaco

31-01-2006, 16:23

Is Stam in at right back or CB?
I'm watching the game, Stam was playing as CB but now I don't know what the **** Carlo is doing.

devoted_dm

31-01-2006, 16:24

no way were going to win champ league, bayern are good

I think Bayern will annihilate us :(

I seriously have a feeling that from this point onwards, our season is going to be abysmal.

Warro Bantan

31-01-2006, 16:25

i dont think he knows what hes doing anymore

:haha: You are killin me Graeme C!!! Maybe he his head is already back in Holland... :uhm:

Bosniaco

31-01-2006, 16:26

Galliani looks very happy in the stands... lol

Graeme C

31-01-2006, 16:28

:haha: You are killin me Graeme C!!! Maybe he his head is already back in Holland... :uhm:

stams prob like, screw u guys im going to ajax.... crap we have lazio this weekend......

hitmannq8

31-01-2006, 16:28

simply disgusting performance.. we lack so much creativity it makes me sick.. but the double sub of pirlo and serginho is working to a small extent.. kaka cud have shot but he chose to pass to a way offside inzaghi.. this performance is shameful to say the least

Graeme C

31-01-2006, 16:28

haha and terlizzi is on, there rubbing salt into the wound now

Warro Bantan

31-01-2006, 16:31

I think Bayern will annihilate us :(

I seriously have a feeling that from this point onwards, our season is going to be abysmal.

From this point onwards? Man, the season was virtually over when we lost the derby...though that was more to bad luck, poor officiating, and our sieve like defense coming in a distant 3rd...

We are paying the penalty for management´s poor decisions in the off season. Wonderful, at least its their money.

If Carlo has any backbone, he would quit after this display...sounds contradictory..but if he is to be blamed for poor workmanship when he is given archaic tools, or just poor tools to work with, then he has to declare that he will no longer work under those conditions...and since that will mean his leaving the club..then he should do so under his terms, not because they sacked him.

peters

31-01-2006, 16:31

the only thing im sorry for is that we didnt put the best team on the field to secure the result of 'meaningless' coppa. Like u said it, even one trophy is better than nothing. Now im back to prayin' since CL is damn close...

hitmannq8

31-01-2006, 16:33

a poor cross by serginho from a good position and without any pressure.. a few minutes later kaka fired miserably wide

and inzaghi just missed miserably from a promising position

hitmannq8

31-01-2006, 16:36

omg kaka totally missed a shot from a good cross.. we have a fk in a good position

not the best cross by pirlo, and kaka should have done better with that header

Graeme C

31-01-2006, 16:38

we need 2 goals in 8 mins

Warro Bantan

31-01-2006, 16:40

we need 2 goals in 8 mins

I would also like a menage de tois (sue me if I spelled it wrong)...but that doesnt mean I am going to get it! :dcool:

hitmannq8

31-01-2006, 16:40

kaka is playing so bad

Graeme C

31-01-2006, 16:42

I would also like a menage de tois (sue me if I spelled it wrong)...but that doesnt mean I am going to get it! :dcool:

hahaha :evil:

hitmannq8

31-01-2006, 16:42

goal line clearance by nesta.. di michele was 1on1 with the keeper after POOR DEFENDING by both stam and nesta AGAIN.. keeper had a hand to it.. was going towards goal slowly but nesta was there on time

Graeme C

31-01-2006, 16:43

2 goals in 4 minutes

Warro Bantan

31-01-2006, 16:43

Ok....goodbye Italian Cup...BRING ON BAYERN!!!

:rollani:

Graeme C

31-01-2006, 16:44

the fans really have to Boycott the next san ciro game, this is a joke

hitmannq8

31-01-2006, 16:45

OH MY GOD KAKA IS PLAYING SO BAD !!

seedorf good shot from distance.. comes to kaka to finish from 7 yards and STRAIGHT INTO THE KEEPER!! BULLSHIIT!!!

Graeme C

31-01-2006, 16:45

6 mins extra time?

Graeme C

31-01-2006, 16:46

if i hear galliani say i have complete faith in any player 2moro i will scream!

hitmannq8

31-01-2006, 16:49

i dont why gila is playing.. i never see him touch the ball at all..

a inzaghi-gila partnership is simply a way of self-destruction

Graeme C

31-01-2006, 16:51

its over 3-0 to palermo

Warro Bantan

31-01-2006, 16:52

From Soccerballs.co.it.ja:

Galliani, in a statement to reporters after the dismal showing by Milan in the Italian Cup, indicated that the Milan board "have complete faith in our squad and our manager", while rumors continue to swirl in the fashion capital that relatively unknown coach, Warro Bantan, is being offered a mangement contract, come June, with the embattled Milanese giants

GRE-NO-LI

31-01-2006, 16:53

Well, Well, Well... what the 'everybody is fine / nothing is wrong / we are unbeatable' folks are going to say to us now?!?!?

Graeme C

31-01-2006, 16:53

i have complete faith in warro bantan hahahaah

Xudong

31-01-2006, 16:53

if i hear galliani say i have complete faith in any player 2moro i will scream!

Let's hear you scream then. :grinser:

hitmannq8

31-01-2006, 16:54

Poor performance by Kalac btw. But the worst player on the field today was Kaka. Our best players were Seedorf and Pirlo.

We need our president now, comon, go KILL OUR PLAYERS!

Graeme C

31-01-2006, 16:54

Well, Well, Well... what the 'everybody is fine / nothing is wrong / we are unbeatable' folks are going to say to us now?!?!?

i think there bubble has just been burst

Xudong

31-01-2006, 16:56

i have complete faith in warro bantan hahahaah

I don't think Warro Bantan will take over, as I don't remember him playing for us before. :bri:

:grinser:

mrki

31-01-2006, 16:57

this is a joke!! sooo embarasing and humiliating seeing Milan play this way. With no power or desire to win it. We just cant control the CM when we face strong teams. Pirlo,seedorf ,kaka are good with the ball, but we really suck when we need to take it away. Kaka even played horriblče when he had possesion today. in sick of this.

Warro Bantan

31-01-2006, 17:00

Well, Well, Well... what the 'everybody is fine / nothing is wrong / we are unbeatable' folks are going to say to us now?!?!?

To continue supporting the team you profess to love. Crying, screaming, pouting, slamming doors, and kicking walls will do no good.

Everything is still fine...we have no Italian Cup to distract/serve as an excuse now..so...lets see what happens Sunday in Rome. :diablo:

And Greame C, thanks for your support, I will do my best to make AC Milan back into the global force we once were.

GRE-NO-LI

31-01-2006, 17:01

A totally DISASTROUS perfomance, our creativity seems to be almost gone, with the excepction of an isolated good offensive action in the beggining of the match, we simply didn't create a single decent offensive play!!!

Graeme C

31-01-2006, 17:01

what bugs me is that galliani "claims" to be the second biggest milan fan, but he doesnt try and make the squad as good as possibly can be... i just think he needs his eyes tested

Acmir^

31-01-2006, 17:02

Let's hear you scream then. :grinser:

I want to scream aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa :devf:

GRE-NO-LI

31-01-2006, 17:02

And the transfer window is already gone, ****... :(

devoted_dm

31-01-2006, 17:10

To continue supporting the team you profess to love. Crying, screaming, pouting, slamming doors, and kicking walls will do no good.

Everything is still fine...we have no Italian Cup to distract/serve as an excuse now..so...lets see what happens Sunday in Rome. :diablo:

Yeah this is when we need to be strong in our support on the team. How much are we worth as fans if we can't support them when they're going through a difficult period?

We can hope for a good result in Rome, but I'm not optimistic. Still... FORZA MILAN!!

:rone:

Warro Bantan

31-01-2006, 17:11

GRE-NO-LI

31-01-2006, 17:13

Everything is still fine...we have no Italian Cup to distract/serve as an excuse now..so...lets see what happens Sunday in Rome. :diablo: .

I assume you are kidding, isn't it?

Graeme C

31-01-2006, 17:14

Wake up GRE-NO-LI...we never were going to buy anyone anyway...and even if we did, what difference would it have made today? Hardly any, if you ask me. Carlo wouldnt have played anyone else in defense, and with Ambrosini and Rui Costa both out, our options there were also limited.

Ok, so the doom and gloom party here in Milanmania are the winners today..now what?

Sack Carlo! Crucify Galliani! Give Berlu concrete shoes! Buy Chivu! Buy Sneijder! Buy Ballack! Buy Ronaldo!

I can hardly wait to see the posts! :rollani:

Chivu yes, sneijder yes, but no to the rest... Carlo has had enoth chances, but i doubt we would sack him before the summer.... Galliani dont get me started on him, i hope for the team that belusconi would either quit politics, or let his son take over at Milan.

Graeme C

31-01-2006, 17:16

but if i was carlo i would jump before being pushed

GRE-NO-LI

31-01-2006, 17:19

Ok, so the doom and gloom party here in Milanmania are the winners today..now what?

No one here winning, in fact everybody is loosing... and there's nothing like a 'doom and gloom party', but only REALISTIC people with the right conscience that our side NEEDS to be revolutionized because we are becoming 'museum stuff'!!!

Warro Bantan

31-01-2006, 17:26

I assume you are kidding, isn't it?

No I am not GRE-NO-LI. Everything is A-OK for me. Tell me, what can any of us here do about our current situation?

Of course, I am unhappy with the loss, but I am ok that it was in the Italian Cup, and not the league or UCL.

But the fact remains, that, as I sit here in Kingston, there is NOTHING I can do to change the fact that this season isnt going all that well for my beloved club.

I refuse to stop eating, cry, or even get depressed..the time for that is yet to come, and I sure hope it doesnt happen this term, but so far, so good..we are out of a nonsense competition, that holds no value to the club, nor obviously (from today´s performance) its players, we are 3rd in the Serie A table, and have a very important UCL match coming up in Germany in a couple weeks.

Nor will I post, every other day, in MM about how bad the team is, how much I hate Galliani, or when we should sack Carlo.

Listen, there is still all to hope for. Whats gone is gone..we cant win every match, but we can continue to support our team when they are down, as well as when they are up.

We can do nothing about the present situation...well thats not true..we have two choices:

1. continue to support our team, and hope for the best, or
2. switch teams, and support Juventus, Inter, Chelsea..should I go on?

The fact is, that the team played poorly today, and lost...what..an Italian Cup match...please..its not the end of the world, and if you believe as I do, in the fundamental fact that on our day, we can be world beaters, then its still all roses. :p017:

Warro Bantan

31-01-2006, 17:34

No one here winning, in fact everybody is loosing... and there's nothing like a 'doom and gloom party', but only REALISTIC people with the right conscience that our side NEEDS to be revolutionized because we are becoming 'museum stuff'!!!

Ok, so we revoloutionize our team...when in June? How does that help now? We MUST bring in at least 3 players...would you like to see more brought in?

Fine, email Berlu.

See if he has time to answer you, between his face lifting appointments, his hair implant appointments, those mani/pedi appointments, and last, (and maybe least for him at any rate) seeking re-election in the pending polls.

Or you could start, what, 11 threads, each on a different player, explaining why he should come to Milan, who he should replace, what his salary package should be, and the duration of his contract.

Or you could be positive, and hope for the best for the club, with the players and the coach that we currently have (as far as Carlo goes, I would be surprised if he lasts till June, but in the absence of a suitable replacement, he wont be fired).

GRE-NO-LI

31-01-2006, 17:34

But who the hell are talking about our private lives here?!? Of course that we can be perfectly happy or not on our private lives despite what happens with Milan, that' s something so plainly obvius that it need not be said. We are talking here ONLY about Milan, for Chrit's sake!

zlatanov

31-01-2006, 18:05

Well, Well, Well... what the 'everybody is fine / nothing is wrong / we are unbeatable' folks are going to say to us now?!?!?
stop playing god and dividing the forum into two fractions. Those people you are talking about exist only in your wicked imagination. The only time I remebre someone saying that we are well put as we are, was in one single post by Giovanni, I think but could well be wrong, and that was more of an attempt by him to raise the spirit rather anything else.
Stop imagining "those people" for they simply don't exist, at least not in the real world. Can't say the same about yours, though. :dconf:

SANT

31-01-2006, 18:11

Agree with Zlatanov (Gre-no-li could see this coming from a mile away)...

we have been thru worse... it is a defeat, I don't like it, it hurts, I don't feel well about this... but we will be back...

GilAttack [11]

31-01-2006, 18:13

I think there are people that never say Black or White, they dont give you a Yes or No. GRE-NO-LI, whether you like him or hate him, always gives that black or white, yes or no opinion. I remember reading people saying Vieri was very good and better than Crespo, and now they dont admit they were flat out wrong.

Im not a big fan of those who always see the darker picture, the negative side, but I think i hate even more those who always say "Everything is fine" when its clear there are some (minor or major) problems.

And regarding Ancelotti, well, he is as good as gone unless Milan somehow wins the UEFA Champions League. Even if we win it, Carlo would be smart enough to leave the club when on top.

Flamy

31-01-2006, 18:17

let´s see what the baldy man (galliani) is going to say tomorow:

"come down, I understand the difficulties but the result was unfair...bla bla bla
we have faith in all the players and specially on Carlo...bla bla bla
the season is too long...bla bla bla
now we must think in the other competitions... bla bla bla..."

I´m tired of excuses...always the same words :(
let´s see what he´ll say after the game with FC Bayern

do you know what happened with Co Adriense? the coach of FC Porto?
after the game (Rio Ave FC 0 - FC Porto 0) he was truly vowed in the stadium by Porto supporters anh his car was damached during the night..
i´m not in favour of this but Carlo must do something, or else........ ;)

see ya

mrki

31-01-2006, 18:21

Of course, we will all support Milan tommorow and all together celebrate when we win someting big in near future, lets not fight now. Times are tough for Milan and we donrt play well. We have some finished players, bad coach and Galliani isnt somehow doing his job properly. Things will get better, but right now - we simply look washed out. Now, for the rest of the month I'm going to watch Croatian handball team and hope we can win Euro 2006..... Forza Milan and lets all ( real milan fans )come back stronger and louder very soon!

zlatanov

31-01-2006, 18:23

']I think there are people that never say Black or White, they dont give you a Yes or No. GRE-NO-LI, whether you like him or hate him, always gives that black or white, yes or no opinion.
Maybe because things are never only BLACK or only WHITE but grey with different amount of BLACK and WHITE in them.
Just in case someone is having a hard time figuring out what I meant by this - things are never simple but always complex and there is never one single reason for a failure or success but a complex knot of factors each giving its own contribution.
And this is not about liking or disliking Gre-No-Li, I judge posts, not people. Just because I disagreed with someone on a couple of occasions, that doesn't mean that I am always gonna do that whenever or whatever that particular person posts. Maybe with some people that's not the case but with me it is.

hitmannq8

31-01-2006, 18:53

ANCELOTTI: 'Need to pay closer attention'
1/31/2006
PALERMO - Carlo Ancelotti’s comments after AC Milan’s elimination from the Italian Cup: ‘We went into a disadvantage much too soon and this complicated the game. This is a delicate moment that we must get over. We make mistakes and inevitably pay for them, then it is difficult to recover the games. I think Gilardino did well. He attacked and worked well with Kakà especially in the first half. We are out of the Italian Cup, now we need to pay closer attention because the Champions League is around the corner.’

ANCELOTTI: ‘Must get back to doing what we know’
2/1/2006
PALERMO - Carlo Ancelotti took a second look at the game and gave a more in depth interview: ‘We made inexplicable and costly mistakes. We started the game well when Kakà almost scored, then after Gonzalez’s goal we were no longer in the running because we didn’t have the lucidity to make a comeback. This is a delicate moment and we must restart from here, paying closer attention especially in the defence. The team was off balance and conceded too much on the counter-attack. They aren’t able to take a win if the match has already been complicated, but last year we won many games in the last minute because we believed in ourselves. Now I don’t see that same conviction. The solution is getting back to what we know. It is the team alone that can get us over this hump.’

Speaks for itself. Even Ancelotti feels he cant do anything any more.

GALLIANI: ‘Milan must react’
2/1/2006
PALERMO – Rossoneri chief executive Adriano Galliani spoke on the Milan Channel: ‘Milan must react to this situation. It is a difficult moment, but we will see how we can remedy these problems. We conceded a goal that could have easily been avoided, it’s always these midfield attackers that make things difficult for us. We will see what needs to be done. Right now we don’t have Paolo Maldini. There were four national side players in the defence this evening that should do better.’

Galliani has had all month, and has all the press calling for at least one fresh face in defence to boost some confidence. It's his job to make changes to make sure the team has everything they need.. I hope we find a remedy soon.

True that Maldini is a great leader and there has never been one like him- BUT, how can Milan be considered a great team if we rely only on Maldini? When was the last time a team like Milan relied so much on one player?

Is Galliani assuming because our defenders are national side players, they will automatically perform well and keep clean sheets? I certainly hope not.

peters

31-01-2006, 19:12

Maybe because things are never only BLACK or only WHITE but grey with different amount of BLACK and WHITE in them.
Man, how are you two pushing my nerves today ;)
There is only black and red!

and i dont wanna hear black&white again for at least a week. Or maybe today, if Roma do me a favour...

SANT

31-01-2006, 20:11

peters, well said... haha

Egoistka

31-01-2006, 20:40

Some people seem really optimistic here...I wish I could be like that. After such a shame i am not sure they can present something good in Champions League... :3band:

Xudong

31-01-2006, 20:43

when I realized that we couldn't get it back, I kind of wished that Palermo could score one more. Don't get wrong, I love Milan very much. But every time we lost 0-4, we would bounce back and play fantastically for at least one month or two.

Some people seem really optimistic here...I wish I could be like that. After such a shame i am not sure they can present something good in Champions League... :3band:

We will be fine. :rock3:

Egoistka

31-01-2006, 20:51

when I realized that we couldn't get it back, I kind of wished that Palermo could score one more. Don't get wrong, I love Milan very much. But every time we lost 0-4, we would bounce back and play fantastically for at least one month or two.
We will be fine. :rock3:
I know what is the reason for that. After 4:0 Ancelotti gave them a really taugh week with shouting and training from early morning to evening...:))) I would do, really! :5dito:

GRE-NO-LI

31-01-2006, 21:46

True that Maldini is a great leader and there has never been one like him- BUT, how can Milan be considered a great team if we rely only on Maldini? When was the last time a team like Milan relied so much on one player?

That's really pathetic, I agree with you. Sure that Maldini is a player of genius, bu he's no superman, he can't play for eleven!

GilAttack [11]

31-01-2006, 22:46

Maybe because things are never only BLACK or only WHITE but grey with different amount of BLACK and WHITE in them.
Just in case someone is having a hard time figuring out what I meant by this - things are never simple but always complex and there is never one single reason for a failure or success but a complex knot of factors each giving its own contribution.
And this is not about liking or disliking Gre-No-Li, I judge posts, not people. Just because I disagreed with someone on a couple of occasions, that doesn't mean that I am always gonna do that whenever or whatever that particular person posts. Maybe with some people that's not the case but with me it is.

Not always. There is no grey with Vieri, not when he signed with us, not during his tenure with Milan, never.

Same applies to other things.

And you are not a better fan for saying everytime "everything is going to be alright" or "Galliani is a genius, he cant do no wrong", etc, etc. And this is not related to you, Zlatanov. But It sure looks like that on this board.

mk18

31-01-2006, 23:57

']I think there are people that never say Black or White, they dont give you a Yes or No. GRE-NO-LI, whether you like him or hate him, always gives that black or white, yes or no opinion. I remember reading people saying Vieri was very good and better than Crespo, and now they dont admit they were flat out wrong.

Im not a big fan of those who always see the darker picture, the negative side, but I think i hate even more those who always say "Everything is fine" when its clear there are some (minor or major) problems.

And regarding Ancelotti, well, he is as good as gone unless Milan somehow wins the UEFA Champions League. Even if we win it, Carlo would be smart enough to leave the club when on top.
heres where ur wrong... its WRONG to have either a yes or a no person... its not IMO that its wrong.. its a fact that its wrong... u always have the people who are right in the middle but try to think positivly... i for one try to be like that because there is no use to stress urself out on something that has happened especially when u know theres absolutely nothing to do about it... why is it sooo hard for alot of people here to think positivly??? ... think positive and trust me ull lead a happier life...

just because im telling grenoli to shut the hell up doesnt mean im with his imaginary 'everything is ok' people... yes im mad... but what use is it for me to be mad?? ...infact there are more disadvantages of me being mad than advantages, infact, there are no advantages at all... all i do is ruin my day... great... then what?!?!

grenoli, do me a favour and stop ur stop division of MM members and grow up for humanity's sake!

mk18

31-01-2006, 23:59

and for the record, i admit vieri was a bad signing, but what use would it have been to cry about it while he was with us?? ... why not just hope for the best??? and if hes no longer associated with us, u can talk all that crap about him as much as u want.

Graeme C

01-02-2006, 03:15

Graeme C

01-02-2006, 03:19

isnt galliani like a magic 8 ball, not sayin his head is shiny but for the answers he gives------

"magic 8 ball, are we going to sign any new players"..... Dont count on it

tardissun

01-02-2006, 03:30

isnt galliani like a magic 8 ball, not sayin his head is shiny but for the answers he gives------

"magic 8 ball, are we going to sign any new players"..... Dont count on it

HAHAHAA!! LOL!! Man, I wish they DID use the 8ball this season. Things probably would have turned out better.

Yeah yeah. I know, just a cup loss, no big deal - but it's always tough to see em lose. Sigh... I'm just hoping for success in CL and that Milan at least finishes 2nd in Serie A. Don't want to be behind Inter.

zlatanov

01-02-2006, 07:53

']Not always. There is no grey with Vieri, not when he signed with us, not during his tenure with Milan, never.

Gilattack, only if life was so simple that we could brand things as black or white, beatiful or ugly, right or wrong, up or down .. but it's not for the truth is always somewhere in the middle i.e. grey.
Even in your example with Vieri - if you just look at things on the surface, yeah it's easy to say that getting him in place of Crespo, a player who had already managed to successfully incorporate himself in the squad, was a big mistake.
Problem is, however, that things are not so simple in this case or any other. Chelski reportedly asked us to pay them ~11 mil euros for a 30yo player, and there were strong rumours that they wanted Milan to give them a freepass on Gilardino, as well. Now, if you were Galliani, would you have agreed on paying that much money and lose a 23 yo rising star for a player, who would have had 1 or maybe 2 more good seasons?
Also, the reason Milan is going through this difficult period is not because we got Vieri and gave up on Crespo. With or without Vieri, with or without Crespo, the team would have still had the current problems simply because the origins of our problems are not dependent one single player alone, actually, as far as I am concerned, they have nothing to do with the players. The only difference would have been that we would have paid 10-11 mil for Crespo, lose Gila as our finances would have been seriously cut short by the Crespo transfer and still have a difficult season, as opposed to getting Vieri for free but also being able to secure the services of young player like Gilardino, who's the future of Milan and Italian football in all. And Gila is having a pretty good season too keeping in mind all the difficulties our team is facing this year, as it is so much more difficult to show your real worth in a situation like this one when team spirit is down. I, for one, can't say that Sheva, for instance, is doing any better right now and the same goes for all our established stars like Nesta, Pirlo, and Kaka. All this makes Gila's task of finding his place in this team so much more difficult. In the end, however, I don't think that anyone should or can blame Galliani for opting for Gila over Crespo.
So, we are back from where we started - if only things in life were as simple as black and white.

Graeme C

01-02-2006, 11:29

i just watched the half high lights, first goal was class, the second goal both gattuso and stam should have came forward to tackle the guy (they stood there like headless chickens), nesta just got stuck there chasing back, from what i have seen jankuloski did a few good crosses into the box (he got one of the highest game ratings)

3rd goal was rubbish, wtf was simic doing, kalac didnt kno what to do either...

Palermo showed how old the squad was, and how it cant cope with speed.... im laughin at how bad the defense was....

Egoistka

01-02-2006, 22:12