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Giornata 37
Milan makes a short trip to Parma, to play on Sunday (3pm Italia).
Juventus plays at Delle Empty against Palermo
Maldini, Ambrosini, Stam and Nesta our out injured... Seedorf is banned.
We must play with the best players we have, so I think:
Dida
Cafu, Costacurta, Kaladze, Serginho
Gattuso, Pirlo/Vogel, Jankulovsky, Kaka'
Shevchenko, Gilardino
IMO Gilardino should play simply because it is his return to the Tardini, where he saved that team and scored so many goals...
King tiger
02-05-2006, 14:35
I somewhere readed that Seedorf ban is reduced to only one game.Is that true?
Milan_Mad
02-05-2006, 14:36
I think Seedorf just got off with a one match ban so he will be available, Also i think Carlo will start with Pips with Shev
Dida
Cafu, Costacurta, Kaladze, Serginho
Seedorf, Pirlo, Gattuso
Kaka
Inzaghi Shevchenko
Anyone know the status of Nesta?
Think we will one this one 1-nil, it will be tight
Milan_Mad
02-05-2006, 14:37
I somewhere readed that Seedorf ban is reduced to only one game.Is that true?
Yes it is :cool:
Warro Bantan
02-05-2006, 15:51
Giornata 37
Juventus plays at Delle Empty against Palermo :haha: ...good one!!
[IMO Gilardino should play simply because it is his return to the Tardini, where he saved that team and scored so many goals...
I couldnt agree with you more, except that I think he will come off the bench...Pippo is too hot to be benched, and with Sheva´s unfortunate outburst at being subbed during the Livorno match still resonating...and intrest from Chelsea unabated, I think the Ukraine intl will start.
I hope Rui gets a run as well...as per usual. :rone:
Parma really have nothing to play for but pride, but "pride cometh before the fall" as the saying goes, so hopefully, we will win the game without too much of a tussle....they are playing at home though, so we cannot expect that they will be pushovers.
I look forward to the game....and to see Juve drop some points to a tough Palermo.
FORZA MIIIIIIIIIIIILAN!!!
Nesta was sent home from the Azzurri camp because he has not recovered...
NestaIsKing
02-05-2006, 16:42
I hope Nesta gets better soon. What exactly is wrong with him anyways? anyone know?
sheva-gila
02-05-2006, 16:56
Reggina’s Stadio Granillo ban for Juve game
Reggina’s Stadio Granillo has been banned for one match due to crowd trouble, so the final round against Juventus will be on neutral turf.
The fiery Derby dello Stretto against Messina turned ugly after the final whistle on Sunday, as a fan ran on to the pitch and struck opposition goalkeeper Marco Storari.
If an appeal is rejected, then the last match of the season – against League leaders Juventus – must be played on neutral turf. Reggina have also been handed a £3,000 fine for the incident.
The Disciplinary Commission has suspended Lecce striker Babu for two games, effectively ending his campaign...
source: www.channel4.com
juve still the same juve peace of sh**t maybe thay gonna play in TORINO ahahaha
I hope they play it in Torino... that's where they get the smallest attendance, hahaha
Capo Ultra
03-05-2006, 02:03
I hope Nesta gets better soon. What exactly is wrong with him anyways? anyone know?
According to the Italian media, Nesta has strained his thigh muscle...
Nesta has chronic muscular problems... his right thigh specially...
Any live streams? GOL TV is showing Juve-Palermo at 8:00 AM instead.
NAMMY, do you have any links? The one for the Livorno match was greatly appreciated.
Rai International will have simultaneous broacast of Juve-Palermo and Parma-Milan
Great to hear that, i will get up early this weekend.
Seeing the calendar, i have to make a pesimistic observation. Juve plays with Reggina last week and we play with Roma. Forget about Roma, we can beat them, but what about Juve? Reggina has nothing to lose, no relegation problems, so they wont say no to a cuple of extra bucks for this season.
On the other hand, i can see the optimistic part too. We paly with Parma now, we have to beat them, no other chance. This is not a ridiculous thing, as it isnt Palermo beating Juve at home. If we beat Parma and Juve loses or draws to Palermo, we'll be playing with Roma with 100% motivation, and there is not posible better motivation right now, than winning an scudetto to Juve defeating Roma. As for Juve, they should be nervious about not having winning the scudetto after tha last match, and if Reggina can close the midfield, there wont be any problem in they having a tie.
All this just speaking in theory, but if things follow their course, Milan should continue on the winning path, and Juve should continue losing.
I believe in miracles, my team Almagro got promoted to first division twice in 4 years having almost no chances in last 2 matches, when nobody payed a cent for us.
I hope in 2 weeks we are the ones who laugh the last.
bad news... the referee is going to be Paparesta!!!!
He will be wearing his yellow socks, yellow shorts, and black and white striped shirt :u31:
zlatanov
05-05-2006, 14:14
bad news... the referee is going to be Paparesta!!!!
He will be wearing his yellow socks, yellow shorts, and black and white striped shirt :u31:
well, let me guess - for sure Moggi had nothing to do with all this and the ref was "selected" by pure chance and it's nothing but chance that he happens to be an icon among Juve fans ;).
Anyway, we should be able to beat Parma also because they have nothing to fight for ... apart from us being the much better team.
Paparesta is not a bad referee, he could take over De Santis as Italy's number 1...
I don't know exactly how old he is, but he's surely not even close to 40
just for some reason he always seems to give Juve a hand when they need it...
oh, and he likes to tan too much... hehe
rahul.acm
05-05-2006, 14:36
yea moggi won't goof around now. he is busted! :haha:
abt parma game, i just know 1 thing that gila is gonna get f*ed by by parma fans for sure
Warro Bantan
05-05-2006, 15:00
Zlat, I dont know about us being a "much better team" than Parma..on paper maybe, but we are just a single goal better than them at home if I remember correctly..
I recall us beating them narrowly 3-2 in the San Siro.....so I expect a tough match in the Tardini...
Realistically though, we should win this game, but, with Paparesta in charge, will we be allowed to?
And to rahul.acm re:yea moggi won't goof around now. he is busted! ...match fixing is usually done waaaaay in advance..so he probably already has this match fixed...one thing is for sure, if I was fixing matches, the second to last, and the last games of the season are must fixes for me, especially if the title race gets tight.
Anyway, in Jamaica we have a saying: "Unfair game play twice"...so lets see...
FORZA MIIIIIIIIIILAN!!!
Milan_Mad
05-05-2006, 15:15
it was 4-3 in the san siro
http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/may5m.html
why do juve always have it easy
sheva-gila
05-05-2006, 16:07
why do juve always have it easy
cuze thay have moggie but seems to be over now i hoppe thay gonna do somethin
about the game with parma .. i know milan is going to come back from there with 3 points they need the full points from this game .. and all the milan players sad ; that no metter
what juve is going to do . we are going to play to win 6 points from this
2 game ..
soo... i think if milan want`s to win Paparesta can`t stop them :)
Realistically though, we should win this game, but, with Paparesta in charge, will we be allowed to?
And to rahul.acm re:...match fixing is usually done waaaaay in advance..so he probably already has this match fixed...one thing is for sure, if I was fixing matches, the second to last, and the last games of the season are must fixes for me, especially if the title race gets tight.
Anyway, in Jamaica we have a saying: "Unfair game play twice"...so lets see...
FORZA MIIIIIIIIIILAN!!!
After Moggi being widely published that he is the person who fixed almost all games in Serie A then I don't think that the last 2 games will be as if Moggi wants. Don't think the Ref who will on pitch dare to follow what Moggi asked ...even if it were "pre-fixed" vefore the publication...
I even think that the Refs would try to "clean up" themself by doing the opposite way that Moggi wanted (if it were pre-fixed)
So...the way to scudetto is totally depend on our own result...Can we beat Parma in their home? YES !!!! Can we beat Roma at San Siro..?? YES !!!!
should be six points for us the next two games as we normally rise to the big occassion. hopefully the refeering will be fair and either palmero or reggina or both can do us a favour.
nesta is back in training so he can play
PARMA-MILAN: 20 CONVOCATI ROSSONERI
06/05/2006
MILANELLO - Questi i 20 convocati del Milan in vista della gara contro il Parma
PORTIERI: Dida, Fiori, Kalac
DIFENSORI: Cafu, Costacurta, Kaladze, Nesta, Jankulovski, Simic
CENTROCAMPISTI: Gattuso, Kakà, Pirlo, Rui Costa, Seedorf, Serginho, Vogel
ATTACCANTI: Amoroso, Gilardino, Inzaghi, Shevchenko
_MaJi_tz
06-05-2006, 15:52
plss tomorrow somebody put live stream
Check out Eran's thread for links to watch it live Parma-Milan
Mephisto
07-05-2006, 08:41
We're leading 1-0 so far.
Kaka from penalty. Shevchenko got injured on the 10th minute and replaced by Gilardino
well, let me guess - for sure Moggi had nothing to do with all this and the ref was "selected" by pure chance and it's nothing but chance that he happens to be an icon among Juve fans ;).
Anyway, we should be able to beat Parma also because they have nothing to fight for ... apart from us being the much better team.
Geez Zlat for over 30 straight weeks you post this after every match you dont agree with the Juve result. If there is any funny business going on, why are you wasting your time??? Go home already or "give me some of dat sh!t" that you inhal'in.
Mephisto
07-05-2006, 10:00
No miracle today - we won 3:1 but Juve also won 2:1 over Palermo. One more game to go...
rahul.acm
07-05-2006, 10:07
no miracle in this season at all. where are those sacchi days? second place only. no trophy and only cl disappointments. sheva got injured hopefully he is fine and plays well for ukraine!
King tiger
07-05-2006, 10:09
We win 3-2.Sheva got injured i hope he wont miss World Cup:(.Kaka,Cafu,Seedorf,Corradi,Corradi.
zlatanov
07-05-2006, 10:17
Geez Zlat for over 30 straight weeks you post this after every match you dont agree with the Juve result. If there is any funny business going on, why are you wasting your time??? Go home already or "give me some of dat sh!t" that you inhal'in.
I am just letting the frustration out ... as for the funny business, well if what's currently all over the press in Italy doesn't qualify as "funny business" I don't know what does ;). And I have nothing against Juve winning, I just have a lot against them doing so NOT on the pitch.
btw, we won 2-3 as Parma scored a goal in the 88th min or so. The team played well today, Kaka missed a bunch of sitters after some great work by Gila. Hope Sheva is OK and taking him out was more of a precaution rather anyhting else.
Cafu was very, very good today - back to his best just in time for yet another WC title, I guess. If this guy manages to stay healthy next year, keeping him at Milan would be one of our best "transfers" for next season.
rahul.acm
07-05-2006, 10:17
corradi played well, if we wud have had any vaccancy he surely shud have had come! next we will have big heart breaks maldini, billy and cafu. wtf is happening! no trophy !!! if next year we don't win cl or scudetto carlo shud voluntarily step down. coppa is nothing.
rahul.acm
07-05-2006, 10:39
wateva it is fellas, don't forget to watch real vs villareal, its gonna be zidane's last match at bernebeu so pay this man some respect. its been emotional :proud: unfortunately he couldn't wear our jersey. also its gonna be thrilling coz its 2 big teams and zidane and his mates will do everything possible to win this game. Hang on to your knickers
ukrainian_CA
07-05-2006, 12:57
Hope Sheva is OK and taking him out was more of a precaution rather anyhting else.
Cafu was very, very good today - back to his best just in time for yet another WC title, I guess.
How badly was Sheva's injuried? Without him, Ukraine will never make it even out of the group in the WC. He is not only a good striker, he is a leader and a symbol of our team. :pr115:
zlatanov
07-05-2006, 14:28
How badly was Sheva's injuried? Without him, Ukraine will never make it even out of the group in the WC. He is not only a good striker, he is a leader and a symbol of our team. :pr115:
he coame off after a knee-to-knee knock - didn't look anyhting serious really - with Couto. After Couto's "intervention", Sheva tumbled on the ground and maybe when he was falling he hurt his knee, not sure if it was as a direct result of the knock itself or the tumbling. Anyway, he did seem to feel pain but he came off the field all by himself and left for the dressing rooms again without any assistance, so I am guessing it won't be a serious injury that would threathen his taking part in the WC for Ukraine. Actually, I won't be surprised to see him ready for next game vs Roma although that would be a bit pushing it, I think.
zlatanov
07-05-2006, 14:49
Oh, btw, it's worth seeing 2 of Milan's goals today - the second one for 0-2 was a great swift conter between Kaka, Gila and Cafu, but the one by Seedorf for 1-3 was definitely one of the goals of the season in Serie A: a thunderous and fierce strike from 30m out right in the upper left corner of the Parma goal, De Lucia (parma's GK) simply didn't stand a chance ... and that was from at least 30m out, way to go Clarence :)
Milan_Mad
07-05-2006, 15:26
Great win today boys, hope sheva is ok keep us updated
Seedorf's goal was a cracker!!
entertaining match today great football parma at times included. kaka was very good unlucky not to score. milan's second goal was very good a great kaka pass which gila (who got an standing ovation from the parma faithful when he came on) let it run through his legs to leave cafu in space.
Seedorfs 3rd 30 yards top corner enough said!
I thought the marking for both their goals was terrible ... schoolboy stuff ... Cafu was nowhere near close enough to marking Corradi for the first goal and Nesta was equally distant to Corradi for the second ... neither were goal-side of their man either, which is basic stuff.
Silly errors like that really bug me.
I thought the marking for both their goals was terrible ... schoolboy stuff ... Cafu was nowhere near close enough to marking Corradi for the first goal and Nesta was equally distant to Corradi for the second ... neither were goal-side of their man either, which is basic stuff.
Silly errors like that really bug me.
was a great ball for parma's 2nd though. think nesta was unlucky to be caught out, it was more the quality and vision of the pass.
anyway lets hope reggina do us a favour next week
i disagree slightly al. Surely if you're a cb one of your jobs is to know where the striker is and you can't know that if you're 5 yards in front of him. If Nesta was behind Corradi or even just closer to him, there would have been no way for Corradi to be picked out ... or even if he was found, Nesta would have been in a much better position to make a challenge. I guess he just switched off for a moment.
sheva-gila
07-05-2006, 15:55
we have to be honest with Gila he played well today but unlucky to score loock to the cafu's goal even if he dosnt score he help others to score as with cafu today he let the ball through hes lags to do that u need to concetrate 100% he has done few assist this session as like against udinese atractiv assist to sheva, seedorf ....
anyway we have to be proud with him as his first session in a big club such milan is aslo we have to be proud with all of our guys, sheva, inzaghi ,kaka,seedorf....
FORZA MILANNNNNNNNNNNN
yeah jim i know where you coming from he should have been closer but it was a perfect pass and it was out of nothing. as you say I guess he just switched off for a moment. at least it didnt cost us any points
NestaIsKing
07-05-2006, 16:16
ok, I only saw the final 10 minutes of the game + Stoppage time, but with what I saw, I was disappointed in how the finished out the game. I heard the commentators keep saying how Seedorf scored some amazing goal, which is always good and stuff, but Nesta gave up a good opportunity on a turn and shoot from Corradi, then on the 2nd goal Nesta completely fell asleep and forgot to Mark Corradi and he scored on a nice header. Glad they got the win of course, but they have to play better
I have nasty feeling that Juve will take scudetto though we will win the Roma game.
The Sheva injury reminds me of Mikailichenko injury in a friendly game prior to WC 1990 which saw the player out then the CCCP (USSR) could not get through group stage (lost against Rumania and Agentina). I hope my feeling on Sheva situation is wrong.
King tiger
08-05-2006, 05:15
MILAN - Andriy Shevchenko, who was forced off the pitch after just eight minutes at Parma yesterday, underwent an x-ray on his left knee this morning and the diagnosis is a sprain and stretching of the medial collateral ligament . The striker will not need an operation and is expected to be fit to play in 25 days.
from acmilan.com
It seems that he wont miss world cup:D.He wont be awailable for Roma game.:(
I have nasty feeling that Juve will take scudetto though we will win the Roma game.
I think we all have that feelimg sicne the season started. Only a miracle can avoid Juve winning the scudetto now. If they had lost some of the previous games, and tied with Palermo, i would be full of hope. Now im just looking forward to next season.
NestaIsKing
08-05-2006, 11:24
I think we all have that feelimg sicne the season started. Only a miracle can avoid Juve winning the scudetto now. If they had lost some of the previous games, and tied with Palermo, i would be full of hope. Now im just looking forward to next season.
^ totally agree. Lets hope next year goes alot better than this year
Warro Bantan
08-05-2006, 11:33
A good win, against a strong Parma team who played well in spurts, and we allowed two careless goals, one I blame Cafu for, the other Nesta just went to sleep.
I thought we recovered well from the morale reducing injury to Sheva, and Kaka played well, looking like the Brazilian wonderkid that we all know and love...the rest he was afforded seems to have worked for the youngster.
We could have won by an even more comfortable margin, but the defense had its moments of mental breakdown, resulting in the scoreline looking closer than the acutal gameplay demanded.
Such mental lapses may well cost us the game vs Roma, who are fighting for a UCL spot, thought the Viola seem to have the advantege.
Juve have all but sown the scudetto on their kits for next season, with even a draw granting them the title.
We are paying for lost points at this juncture, but such is life...
As usual, FORZA MIIIIIIIIIILAN!!!
Lord_Tawreser
08-05-2006, 12:15
A good win, against a strong Parma team who played well in spurts, and we allowed two careless goals, one I blame Cafu for, the other Nesta just went to sleep.
Ronaldinho with the ball, Gattuso gives him an inch of space...Ronaldinho finds Guily...an amazing pass...where is NESTA...he's asleep...unbeliavable....Barca take the lead.... :pp18:
:angf: should've could've would've :angf:
Warro Bantan
08-05-2006, 12:38
Ronaldinho with the ball, Gattuso gives him an inch of space...Ronaldinho finds Guily...an amazing pass...where is NESTA...he's asleep...unbeliavable....Barca take the lead.... :pp18:
Lord_Tawreser...please...we dont need this reminder...and I wonder why you have decided to take Nesta to task...he has played reasonably, if not exceptionally well this season for us this term, and remains one of the world´s best central defenders...are you indicating that you wish him elsewhere?
Some might think so...I for one wont even go there...as he is for me, one of the worlds best, if not the best centre back.
Anyone, and everyone is capable of making a mistake...and though I didnt mention it, Morfeo should never have gotten the time he had to place the ball on Corradi´s forehead...that could hardly be Nesta´s fault...Gattuso, Clarence, Pirlo, Marek..where were they? Why didnt they close down the diminutive Italian? They didnt, Corradi drifted wide, lost Nesta, and they scored. We were leading 1-3 at the time..big deal.
In the semi final: Gattuso should have won the ball from Ronaldinho, and/or fouled him, to prevent him from making a pass that, with Guily´s pace, would have caught any central defensive pairing unawares.
Please, relax, and take it easy. :rolleyes: There is always next season.
Lord_Tawreser
08-05-2006, 13:46
Lord_Tawreser...please...we dont need this reminder...and I wonder why you have decided to take Nesta to task...he has played reasonably, if not exceptionally well this season for us this term, and remains one of the world´s best central defenders...are you indicating that you wish him elsewhere?
Some might think so...I for one wont even go there...as he is for me, one of the worlds best, if not the best centre back.
Anyone, and everyone is capable of making a mistake...and though I didnt mention it, Morfeo should never have gotten the time he had to place the ball on Corradi´s forehead...that could hardly be Nesta´s fault...Gattuso, Clarence, Pirlo, Marek..where were they? Why didnt they close down the diminutive Italian? They didnt, Corradi drifted wide, lost Nesta, and they scored. We were leading 1-3 at the time..big deal.
You are right. Sorry.
In the semi final: Gattuso should have won the ball from Ronaldinho, and/or fouled him, to prevent him from making a pass that, with Guily´s pace, would have caught any central defensive pairing unawares.
I probably shouldn't but I'm going to tell a joke now. So.... somebody fouls Ronnie somewhere around 20 m from the goal. Just down the middle.
The opposing team lines up a wall and everyone is facing Ronnie, protecting thier jewels, except for this one player, he is facing the goal. Somebody asks this player to turn around, but he says: "Are you out of your mind, I'd never miss seing such a great goal" :)
But you are still probably right.
Please, relax, and take it easy. :rolleyes: There is always next season.
Sorry :dcool:
Warro Bantan
08-05-2006, 15:37
Good one Lord Tawreser! That was funny...and while I accept your apology, let me hasten to add that I wasnt coming down on you, just expressing the wish that you take everything in context..not using isolated incidents to paint a particular picture the shade you wish it.
NestaIsKing
08-05-2006, 16:46
I still think that goal against Barca was more because of Kaladze's lack of pace to keep up with the frenchman, than it was Nesta's
NestaIsKing
08-05-2006, 16:47
Does anybody know if Totti is playing for Roma in the final game?
rahul.acm
08-05-2006, 16:58
Does anybody know if Totti is playing for Roma in the final game?
hell yeah! he will be playing the coppa game against inter too. aah a gr8 way to end the season wud be by beating roma. if we win the scudetto on the last day.....mmmm...then sheva won't leave us :haha:
NestaIsKing
08-05-2006, 17:06
hell yeah! he will be playing the coppa game against inter too. aah a gr8 way to end the season wud be by beating roma. if we win the scudetto on the last day.....mmmm...then sheva won't leave us :haha:
yah that would be great if we win. Glad that I'll be able to watch Totti play finally after all those games he missed I don't think I've seen him play all year. But hopefully Milan can keep him under control for the game and the win!
rahul.acm
08-05-2006, 17:16
wat a player totti is...muuuahh. perfet replacement for kaka but there is no way he will leave roma. he didn't even accept our invitation in the begining, :dumpf: he is as stubborn as he is committed.
NestaIsKing
08-05-2006, 17:23
Yah he is a helluva player. and yah I don't see him ever leaving Roma, even though he plays out of position up there. That would be cool if he could play beside Kaka with Sheva and ???? up front. haha that would be Uber cooL!
Lord_Tawreser
08-05-2006, 21:37
just expressing the wish that you take everything in context..not using isolated incidents to paint a particular picture the shade you wish it.
I didn't mean to do anything like that. I respect and appritiate Nesta alot. Now that I have seen the goal Parma scored it reminded me of a lot of goals Milan had conceeded this season. When something happens regulary it's a problem. Barca? If we were marking Stam-Ronaldinho, Nesta-Eto, Kaladze-Guily then it's Kaladzes fault. A beginers guide to football, I guess: FIND SOMEONE TO MARK. Sorry to say it really. Or something like Kaladze saying: "Look, Nesta, Guilly, stop him!" might have been nice.
The general problem I think is that we use zonal marking, which is a good thing, but it sometimes leaves gaps. Specifically, the two CBs are left with a dillema as to who to mark, the striker or the advancing midfielder. And sometimes they end up marking empty space. This is where our left back and right back need to come in and mark the striker. Sometimes they are not there and this is when we conceed goals. A midfielder coming into space, short distance or long doesn't matter, CB doesn't know who to mark and no cover. Bad thing. It's because we don't have a true defensive midfielder in Pirlo. I do think that our defense is amazing in it having conceeded so few goals, and most of which from dead ball situations. (needs improovement :p155: )
:d55: A Lord_Tawres (R) totally-not-arogant tactial analysis :) :zany: :5nana:
Enjoy.
P.S. slash Edit: I guess I come in between almilan and jim about who's to blame :) It WAS a great pass by Parma. and for some extra butt kissing points::: I'm glad we won! :1spie:
Wow I'm so happy that Milan won over parma 3-2 last sunday
we played well and if we continue wining the last matches left I belive
Milan will get Scudetto as I belive that Juve will lose thier next 1 or 2 game
for Milan won I donate $5 to chartey
rahul.acm
09-05-2006, 22:26
Wow I'm so happy that Milan won over parma 3-2 last sunday
we played well and if we continue wining the last matches left I belive
Milan will get Scudetto as I belive that Juve will lose thier next 1 or 2 game
for Milan won I donate $5 to chartey
donate something to MM too, even that wud be counted as charity! ;)
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