View Full Version : Cicinho on sale for 8 milion
kastriot
27-08-2006, 12:08
The ex-São Paulo player was an express desire of ex-Madrid Coach Vanderlei Luxemburgo, but after the Brazilian left Madrid has been used less and less. The idea is to sell the player on to a club that uses the 3-5-2 system in which Cicinho flourished and, if no buyer can be found by Thursday, may loan him out to a ‘friendly’ club until a December sale can be arranged.
Cicinho’s potential departure also owes a lot to Madrid’s failed attempt to slough off Ronaldo, but AC Milan weren’t biting for the 30 million Euros that Mijatovic was trying to get from the Italians – even went the price was slashed by 5 million – and the other potential samba source of income – Baptista – also failed to attract a sufficient bid from Arsenal and said ‘no’ to a Spurs offer.
The 8 million will go a long way to bringing either Chivu (AS Roma) or Alex (PSV Eindhoven) to the Spanish capital as Capello’s tight jaw is starting to grind with only five days left to land the solid defender that he’s demanding to round off the new model Merengues. The curse of Gento’s number 11 shirt continues after Michael Owen came and went. It now looks like Cicinho will follow him out of the back door, but who will inherit the once coveted and now jinxed number?
http://goal.com/en/articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=117078
kastriot
27-08-2006, 12:09
The ex-São Paulo player was an express desire of ex-Madrid Coach Vanderlei Luxemburgo, but after the Brazilian left Madrid has been used less and less. The idea is to sell the player on to a club that uses the 3-5-2 system in which Cicinho flourished and, if no buyer can be found by Thursday, may loan him out to a ‘friendly’ club until a December sale can be arranged.
Cicinho’s potential departure also owes a lot to Madrid’s failed attempt to slough off Ronaldo, but AC Milan weren’t biting for the 30 million Euros that Mijatovic was trying to get from the Italians – even went the price was slashed by 5 million – and the other potential samba source of income – Baptista – also failed to attract a sufficient bid from Arsenal and said ‘no’ to a Spurs offer.
The 8 million will go a long way to bringing either Chivu (AS Roma) or Alex (PSV Eindhoven) to the Spanish capital as Capello’s tight jaw is starting to grind with only five days left to land the solid defender that he’s demanding to round off the new model Merengues. The curse of Gento’s number 11 shirt continues after Michael Owen came and went. It now looks like Cicinho will follow him out of the back door, but who will inherit the once coveted and now jinxed number?
http://goal.com/en/articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=117078
I think we should make a move for this guy, his good,we need him and I know that a lot of us are regretting we didnt sign him before real,so I think now is the time.
we should get oddo and next year go for Alves when Cafu retires. Cicingo cant defend -cant play for milan as a full back.
hitmannq8
27-08-2006, 12:41
True Cicinho can't defend, but he can learn. I always wanted him to come but then I got a bit angry at him for saying "My dream is to play for Milan" and then goes to Man Utd and Real and tries to negotiate deals with them. Alves is prolly a better option, but Cicinho's attacking skills are second to none. Prolly even better than Cafu!
Cafu is the most intelligent fullback in the world, and it hepls him to play at highest level at this age. He reads the game perfectly, doesnt lose position oftenly and son on....
we should get oddo and next year go for Alves when Cafu retires. Cicingo cant defend -cant play for milan as a full back.
Agree 100% .... Alves or Rafinha
hitmannq8
27-08-2006, 12:54
Actually, many of our goals in previous seasons have been because of Cafu's bad positioning. But I agree that he is very intelligent. Thats why Cicinho will improve a lot if he plays along side Cafu in training and everything. Cicinho can also be used in a 4-4-2 formation for us. I think he's much better than Oddo. But there's also another thing we can do: buy Cicinho, send him to Sevilla + say 1-5m and get Alves. Or we can actually ask Betis to give us money + Alves for Cicinho to make them think Cicinho is better and then we eventually settle for a straight swap :D
CAB-MILAN83
27-08-2006, 12:57
Agree 100% .... Alves or Rafinha
milan need this player, if we signe thu guy it will be very good....milan go fo plz :5ok:
Schiaffino
27-08-2006, 13:03
It's a great opportunity to finally replace Cafu, let's hope the board won't miss that.
A good player going forward, but defensively not right for us. Alves is the one if we were to get another Brazilian right-back ... Rafinha is a great prospect but maybe not quite ready yet. I still think Reveillere is as good a choice as any.
Why not also go for Baptista if he's available ? We could at least ask what the price might be, though i've heard it's £12 million, not sure if that is true or not.
Theres one reason why he is for sale. Its because he is a $h!t right back. Capello should know, he has got the best out of Cafu and Mancini afterall.
The fact that Milan havent already snapped someone like Miguel or Alves up is a joke.
I agree with both of your minds. I heard tonight at the TV broadcasting in Real-Villareal that he is for sale. He is good for now but i also agree that he doesn't defend. Alves is great player. But for Capello's game lokk my opininon in tactics, in wingers.
Graeme C
27-08-2006, 15:17
and do we want a player who originally turned us down for Real?
and do we want a player who originally turned us down for Real?
Did he turn us down for real, or was it just a case that Milan didn't want to pay the money his old club wanted?
kastriot
27-08-2006, 16:24
I dont have no doubt that cicinho is better than Oddo, for that I m sure,when we talk about Alves thats a different story, couse this guy is incredible, but his hard to get or very expensive. Cicinho is available and not expensive.And we need a full back, not that Cafu is over, by far his better than most of this guys mentioned above. but we new bood
The problem with buying Cicinho is the same as the problem with buying Ronaldo or any other Real Madrid player. Madrid would not deal fairly with Milan because of the Kaka incident and would demand far more money than he is worth or some sort of option on Kaka. There's really no use even thinking about Madrid players right now.
sheva-gila
27-08-2006, 16:32
I dont have no doubt that cicinho is better than Oddo, for that I m sure,when we talk about Alves thats a different story, couse this guy is incredible, but his hard to get or very expensive. Cicinho is available and not expensive.And we need a full back, not that Cafu is over, by far his better than most of this guys mentioned above. but we new bood
yeah I agree with you mate but about his defensiv skills thats true he prefers more atacking RB
kastriot
27-08-2006, 18:10
yeah I agree with you mate but about his defensiv skills thats true he prefers more atacking RB
But the thing is that we need more of a attacking full back than a defensive one, I mean Carlo prefers atacking one, if it was the other case we would use bonera instead.But I agree with you,he needs improvmentin the defensive part , thats for sure.
On the other hand we need to improve our relationship with Real, and I think this could help the process, Lets face the fact Milan and Real are the best teams in the history and they need a healthy relationship.
Nesta_zamalek
27-08-2006, 18:54
we should get oddo and next year go for Alves when Cafu retires. Cicingo cant defend -cant play for milan as a full back.
i am agree with u
The problem with buying Cicinho is the same as the problem with buying Ronaldo or any other Real Madrid player. Madrid would not deal fairly with Milan because of the Kaka incident and would demand far more money than he is worth or some sort of option on Kaka. There's really no use even thinking about Madrid players right now.
This is very true Rick, RM wants to get rid of Ronaldo yet they demand us 25m, this is really rediculous, they just want to revenge us for the Kaka saga. As long as Calderon still in charge Milan had better forget any negotiation with them.
The way Berlusconi said "that door is closed" shows that Milan understands Calderon's intention, so that door is closed for Cicinho.
The problem with buying Cicinho is the same as the problem with buying Ronaldo or any other Real Madrid player. Madrid would not deal fairly with Milan because of the Kaka incident and would demand far more money than he is worth or some sort of option on Kaka. There's really no use even thinking about Madrid players right now.
Agreed, Rick. I dont think we should be dealing with Real, especially under this current managment. They tried to take full advantage of us during the Ronaldo negotiations. In fact, I felt that we lost a bit of face also because earlier Galliani officially "declared war" on Real only to have to travel there to try and negotiate for Ronaldo, and then get screwed over. What the hell is this, "We dont want money, Milan knows what we want." all about? This Calderon guy is as arrogant and sly as it can get. Now, they have a situation where they want to get rid of a player who is not needed. Why should we help them out? Galliani should give him a call and say, "You know what we want. We dont only want Cicinho. How about Ronaldo plus Cicinho for 1.5M?" :)
I think 8M Euro is worthed for Cicinho.
I like to see full back with great attacking skills,
like zambrotta + grosso bring Italy to the World title.
Cicinho + Serginho/Jankulovski is not bad I think
Tony Soprano
28-08-2006, 02:05
Actually, many of our goals in previous seasons have been because of Cafu's bad positioning. But I agree that he is very intelligent. Thats why Cicinho will improve a lot if he plays along side Cafu in training and everything. Cicinho can also be used in a 4-4-2 formation for us. I think he's much better than Oddo. But there's also another thing we can do: buy Cicinho, send him to Sevilla + say 1-5m and get Alves. Or we can actually ask Betis to give us money + Alves for Cicinho to make them think Cicinho is better and then we eventually settle for a straight swap :D
Please apply to become in charge of transfers at Milan :firedev:
I highly doubt that Alves will still be at Sevilla next summer, everyone knows Liverpool will go back in January or try to get him first next summer. They had agreed a price and terms with the player, the issue was down to how the installments would be paid.
If we want Alves, we need to get him asap, we can't afford to wait and expect good players not to be snapped up by other clubs.
It doesn't matter how attacking Cicinho is, he still needs to know the basics of defending and if Capello doesn't think he's good enough at right-back, why would we want him ? As already stated Alves & Reveillere are better options albeit more expensive ones.
milanisti2503
28-08-2006, 06:38
True Cicinho can't defend, but he can learn. I always wanted him to come but then I got a bit angry at him for saying "My dream is to play for Milan" and then goes to Man Utd and Real and tries to negotiate deals with them. Alves is prolly a better option, but Cicinho's attacking skills are second to none. Prolly even better than Cafu!
Is he realy said that? wow ihope he's coming. He is good to backed up gattuso
milanisti2503
28-08-2006, 06:41
BUt,is milan realy have interest on him????
Cicinho woukd really be an asset for Milan, Cafu is fast becoming rusty and now you'd have his NT sub, he's a great player!
If we didn't have Javier or Maicon I'd say get him!
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joumasepoes
29-08-2006, 00:10
A full doesnt have to be the best tackler. He is quick and dribbles and crosses well and will cover the whole field. Good backup. Signing Alves now? dream on
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