View Full Version : Milan vs. Palermo - Sunday, 22 Oct.
Graeme C
18-10-2006, 05:07
Sunday we host Palermo... we have to improve from yesterday or Palermo will punish us like they did in the Coppa match last season..
Channel 4 think this will be our line up, i would have to agree with that...
Milan (probable): Dida; Cafu, Kaladze, Nesta, Jankulovski; Pirlo, Gattuso, Seedorf, Kakà; Gilardino, F.Inzaghi
savage_mau
18-10-2006, 06:33
Palermo never won at san siro and Milan have a good record again Palermo.Hope this can be our second step to climb up to glory again..
Warro Bantan
18-10-2006, 16:29
I am looking forward to this match...hopefully I will see it live..well, lets check on available options, shall we.....
soccertv.com
Sun Oct 22 02:00PM Pacific
Sun Oct 22 03:00PM Mountain
Sun Oct 22 04:00PM Central
Sun Oct 22 05:00PM Eastern
Length: 2 hr SDD
GolTV (US)
Calcio Italiano - Serie A
AC Milan vs Palermo
:sigh: So its Same day delayed...hope RAI shows it live...or maybe Zlat or NAMMY can hook us up with some streams?
Why am I looking forward to this game: Well, it will represent a barometer if you will, of where we really are this season...this will be, IMO a stern test for us, as we come up against a team that is really performing quite well this term (to date)...the hiccup vs Atalanta for me was just that...a hiccup...and the table tells no lies...they are deservedly in the position they hold..
So a stern test for us, coming off a rather difficult game vs Anderlecht in the UCL...still, I look to see Pirlo returning to form, and hopefull Kaka will maintain or improve upon his excellent second half performance vs the Belgian team.
FORZA MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILAN!!!
gilardino & inzaghi up front just doesn't work :depress:
Warro Bantan
18-10-2006, 17:26
gilardino & inzaghi up front just doesn't work :depress:Jim, thanks for your thoughtful and insightful post. Never one for brevity are you? Well thought out, well stated, and well researched. :D
Jus pulling ur leg ol´chap!
But this is very obvious....any suggestions, that you could impart so I could ring Carlo up with some pointers? :devs:
Graeme C
18-10-2006, 17:29
if Serghino was fit i would play a 4-3-2-1 and have Serghino up with Kaka supporting Inzaghi or Gila... That has worked before, plus the team would be dynamite going forward :devs: think i spent too long at the bar tonighttt...
The game will be in San Siro, Milan needs to get back to the winning road, after 3 straight draws...
Sant, I merged your thread with this one, you must not have seen it.
After the dramatic victory against Anderlecht then this game would be the start of Milan's winning ways in the league.
Palermo shall play in Germany today against Eintracht Frankfurt...so logically Milan have more days to recover from their tiredness rather than Palermo.
I bet for Milan with 2-0 win..... :v103:
Clarence1990
19-10-2006, 10:18
We have to win this one if we want to keep any chance in winning the leaque.
I should play Inzaghi and Oliveira in the attack as it packed out well against Anderlecht and we created a lot of chances with them...but we do have to take those chances at Sunday.
Jim, thanks for your thoughtful and insightful post. Never one for brevity are you? Well thought out, well stated, and well researched. :D
Jus pulling ur leg ol´chap!
But this is very obvious....any suggestions, that you could impart so I could ring Carlo up with some pointers? :devs:
Yes Warro, tell him to play Dida in goal.
im sure dida-jankulovski-keladze-nesta-cafu will be our back line. Pirlo-gattuso and kaka will be in the middle. And if Gourcuff is ready, he could play a part after seedorf if off. Or seedorf on for gourcuff, it all depends of phisical condition.
Up front, gila will probably start alongside oliveira as we need a forward that can play also on the wings. I hope that we can score an early goal with a lot of quality posession so we can calmly end the game( havent seen that for a while ). If Palermo closes and doesnt concide in the first 60 minutes we will be in big trouble.
Warro Bantan
19-10-2006, 15:36
If Palermo closes and doesnt concide in the first 60 minutes we will be in big trouble. Have to say I agree with you here mrki!!
Egoistka
19-10-2006, 20:57
If Kaka is not going to be moody, we have a chane...in the opposite case, plus if Gila plays - we are in trouble. According to Gazzetta Pirlo is not going to play and there ll be Brocchi. This is also not a best thing that might happen. Lets cross our fingers and see what happens. Palermo desperately needs a win, and they are going to be very tough.
I would provide some streams (when available), but we don't have a wireless network set up here in my student house yet. Fortunately, Bravo UK will be showing the match from 7:00pm, so that's how I'll be watching. Zlats better at giving streams anyhoo. :v408:
Re the match, of course I hope for Milan to win comfortably, with Gila and Oli scoring. however, Palermo have been doing well so far this season, and Milan always seem to play below par when I watch them ....
kastriot
20-10-2006, 08:57
One thing is for sure,we need to start wining and hope inter wont, anyway I would start with Gila- Oliveira, though they are both out of form,Lets hope Kaka showsa little bit of his magic...We might need it.
Warro Bantan
20-10-2006, 17:46
Zlat...any links for this game? Surprised u havent posted yet..or have u..dont think u did...anyhoo...the game clashes with the "Super Classico" Madrid v Barca...so Gol TV are showing the game late...do u have any streams?
Holla at ur boy!
zlatanov
20-10-2006, 18:06
Still nothing on Milan-Palermo, Warro. It's a Sunday game so the schedule will be updated tomorrow afternoon ... right now, I can find up to date schedules for Saturday games only.
The game should be available on stream, although Milan-Palermo overlaps with Real-Barca and most streams would be showing the Spanish derbi ... I personally have a feeling QSIV would be showing the Milan game cause, at least for now, they don't seem to have Real-Barca on.
For Canadian viewers Milan-Palermo will be live on TLNtv ;)
Egoistka
20-10-2006, 21:39
Inzaghi - Gilardino should start the game, according to Gazzetta. Hope that Inzaghi or Kaka will score...
I hope Oliveira starts alongside Gilardino. The only league game they started together was Parma-Milan and Gilardino had to be substituted because of injury before half time I think. Besides they both played less the Inzaghi against Anderlecht so I would say that both of them will play on sunday. I think it will be interesting as Oliveira will drop deep to help Kaka and collect the ball, which will allow Gilardino to do what he does best and roam inside the box (Pippo style). It might work out great and give Gilardino a couple of goals.
Milan - Palermo : 3-0 (Gilardino x 3) :p017: at least I hope so for Gila's sake! :guw:
Dida - Cafu - Nesta - Maldini - Jankulovski - Pirlo - Brocchi - Seedorf/Gourcuff - Kaka/Gourcuff - Oliveira - Gilardino
If Gourcuff is going to be ready then I don't mind handing Kaka or Seedorf (expecially Kaka) some rest as we do have another midweek game this comming Wednesday against Chievo away.
rossoner03
21-10-2006, 16:13
We will win this game!!! Inzaghi and Seedorf will score for a 3-0
rossoner03
21-10-2006, 16:19
maybe 3-1http://www.milanmania.com/forums/newreply.php#
rossoneri
21-10-2006, 17:34
I think tha we should win this game cause its very important for us .:D
rossoneri
21-10-2006, 17:39
i hope that Olivieira will score .
Egoistka
21-10-2006, 17:41
Tomorrow in the evening my husbends friend from Palermo ll come to watch the game with us. She supports Palermo of course. So Milan would better win, or I might kill her right there :).
Anyway, Palermo is in a good shape now...they have good players like Corini and Bresciano...I dont think we ll win 3:0, maybe 2:1. Seems to me that defence of Palermo is not that good, according to statistics: they scored 14 goals and considered 12. While Milan scored 6 and considered 2. Did you notice guys how we really dont score many goals this year? Is it absence of Sheva? Seems to me that yes.
Egoistka
21-10-2006, 17:46
i hope that Olivieira will score .
Oliveira will not start the game, he might come on substitution. I hope he scores too. Inzaghi is not being brilliant, Gila as usual...so the only hope I have is that Oliveira worths something and starts scoring. Because if not, then we are in deep sh*t.
Carlo says Jankulovski will play as a midfielder. So that could mean Favalli or Kaladze will play as a LB. With Nesta-Maldini as a CB pair. Cafu will be on the right.
--------------dida-----------
cafu-----nesta---maldini---kaladze
...
...
...
the rest to be seen........ :)
If Janku DOES play in midfield and starts the game..it'll probably be Janku over Seedorf. That'd be a nice little experiment.
zZ[-_-]Zz
22-10-2006, 08:40
hope to see Simic start... he has been overlooked despite bein' amongst the best defenders so far this season...
Egoistka
22-10-2006, 09:12
----------------Dida-------------
Janculovski--Kaladze--Nesta--Cafu
----Seedorf--Pirlo--Gattuso------
----------------Kaka------------
Inzagh------i-------------Gilardino
From an article on channel 4
“We are dealing with the Gilardino situation. He’s physically fine, so it’s time for him to end this blasted drought and get a goal that will clear the air. Marcos Cafu will start, while I confirm Marek Jankulovski at left-back and the entire midfield. My only doubts are tied to the central defenders and forwards.” [statement from Ancelotti]
They are without the injured Massimo Ambrosini, Yoann Gourcuff and Serginho, while Dario Simic and Giuseppe Favalli are fighting back from niggling fitness worries.
-----------------------------------------------
This should explain some of our absentees.
Egoistka
22-10-2006, 10:19
From an article on channel 4
“We are dealing with the Gilardino situation. He’s physically fine, so it’s time for him to end this blasted drought and get a goal that will clear the air.
I m sorry to say that, but it sounds like crap.."We are dealing with Gilardino situation"?!?!?! Hehehehe :haha: :haha: :haha: ...Time for him to score was last year..now its time for him to be sold.
ACMILAN1983
22-10-2006, 12:06
I really feel the team have had a sudden surge of much needed confidence this week and Palermo are not a defensively sound side, despite the quality attacking play. I really believe this is a critical match for us, as Inter and Roma both drew and we can possibly damage Palermo's great run this season.
A must win at all costs as we need to start regaining ground again, but now I believe we'll start winning more games after the important win on Wednesday.
FORZA MILAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
with a win tonight and a win against Inter on saturday we are on -5, and that is ok. Wit hthe key word is WIN. Lineup looks good, the best we can offer. Now lets play the best we can, as we didnt do it so far this season.
hitmannq8
22-10-2006, 13:19
Inter and Roma drew tonight. If we beat Palermo, that means we will have caught up on the top 3 in Serie A. Knowing Milan, everytime the leader slips we seem not to play well and drop points. Comon we shouldnt miss this chance.
Official lineups:
DIDA
CAFU - KALADZE - NESTA - JANKU
GATTUSO - PIRLO - SEEDORF
KAKA
GILA - INZAGHI
Another Gila-Inzaghi combo, you guys know what that means, we have to struggle.
cafu & gilardino both caught offside in the first 5 mins ...
rosoneri_11
22-10-2006, 13:42
so guys whats going on at the game????
Look at our subs,
Fiori, Maldini, Costacurta, Simic, Brocchi, Oliveira, Borriello
Why do we need 3 defenders? We don't need Costacurta in that list, why not give the place to a midfield Primavera player?
zlatanov
22-10-2006, 13:45
How to see the game:
The link to UBC StarSports provided here is working .... Just give it some time to load and after that looks like a nice stream:
http://myp2p.eu/Matches/Match4.htm
I am watching it on Rai International :)
im trying to see it on UBc but its awfull......awfull...... :(
how are we playing?? our bench doesnt look promising..... no Ambro, Serginho, Gourcuff....we could use a midfielder in january.
lively first 15 mins or so ... Inzaghi hits a shot just wide, Dida makes a comfortable save from a Amauri shot
are we controling the midfield?
rosoneri_11
22-10-2006, 13:53
our bench isn't too good!
Off topic:
If we buy a midfielder we need someone good technical,fast,and with much natural fitness..........................Ribery is the best!He can play and at right and lat eft side!
eurosport are commenting on how good the vocals are at the san siro even though it's nowhere near full ...
rosoneri_11
22-10-2006, 13:55
I wish gila to find the net today amd start scoring........
Inzaghi heads just over ... good chance ...
Palermo so far struggling to get into the game at this point
I wish gila to find the net today amd start scoring........
No time like the present to start scoring.....although I feel Pippo will score soon actually
This Gila- Inzaghi cannot work. The guys are occupying the same position in the field.
Di Michele with a great run!
The official site had a red card next to his name .... but now it's a yellow ... phew :D
Di Michele just misses ... maybe he's putting himself in the window for a January purchase?
rahul.acm
22-10-2006, 14:09
If he keeps playing like this then he is not far away from a red
Milan_Mad
22-10-2006, 14:26
If he keeps playing like this then he is not far away from a redgattuso got a yellow card for talking to the ref mate hes probley been our best player
hitmannq8
22-10-2006, 14:28
BORING GAME! CoMON MILAN
King tiger
22-10-2006, 14:29
Its not so boring game, its ok.Hope pippo scores.
Carlo should have realized by now that he has to play Gila - Oliveira or Inzaghi - Oliveira.. since this is obviously not working.
Milan's defense has been solid so far. The reason Milan is going to continue to go strong this season will definitely be its defense. Nesta is having a FUN game so far, and Kaladze is certainly enjoying himself. Janku is doing great, while Cafu is uncharacteristically cautious on the right flank.
Kaka played well, Pirlo is ok, Seedorf tried hard but didn't turn into anything.
Inzaghi had a couple of threatening shot, while Gila seems to be frustrated. His pass to Inzaghi who then half-volleyed it deserved credit.
King tiger
22-10-2006, 14:36
I noticed that palermo players dont pass to Diana, so Jankulovski on our left can stay forward and deliver crosses easily
Barzagli seems to be playing well also
aw crap, bresciano scored
King tiger
22-10-2006, 14:40
This is unbelievable
horrible mistake by Nesta...
rosoneri_11
22-10-2006, 14:42
who is fault for this goal?????
Paddy De Nagan
22-10-2006, 14:42
All our midfield players have lost more balls than they have won. :scream:
Milan_Paolo
22-10-2006, 14:43
I believe that we will equalize until 65 min. And then get the win... :)
who is fault for this goal?????
80% nesta, 20% Cafu.
Arildonardo
22-10-2006, 14:44
What the f*** did Nesta do?!?!? I can't believe this... That is some real crappy display from Nesta!
Winning a ball is harder than losing it
Corner kick, hello to all of you.
Paddy De Nagan
22-10-2006, 14:46
It's supposed to be live text on eurosport! The goal hasn't come up yet.
Arildonardo
22-10-2006, 14:55
Look at the stands, there are almost no people there. That can't be very encouraging for our players. I thought italians were intereseted in football, but I guess I was wrong... That's really disappointing!
If Milan are ever going to build a new stadium, it should be much smaller... 55k probably.
rahul.acm
22-10-2006, 14:55
Any eternal optimists around?
rosoneri_11
22-10-2006, 14:55
Simplicio hits the post
What the f... milan is tryin to make it 1-1 and then 2-1
or they wnat to make it 2-0!!!!!
What to the hell is going on?????????
can someone explain to me why is Carlo making these substitutions???
rosoneri_11
22-10-2006, 14:57
Look at the stands, there are almost no people there. That can't be very encouraging for our players. I thought italians were intereseted in football, but I guess I was wrong... That's really disappointing!
If Milan are ever going to build a new stadium, it should be much smaller... 55k probably.
The people are allright dont say bad things for them!
Milan is the fault because fans aren't so many!!
Paddy De Nagan
22-10-2006, 14:57
On comes Maldini. Will he score!? :dontkn:
Any eternal optimists around?
eh? Of course, always.
Janku out, Paolo in.
Warro Bantan
22-10-2006, 14:58
We dont have any mobility, nor players apart from Kaka, in the forward line, that can turn defenders...this has been our problem all season, which Oliviera was supposed to remedy....hit the bar twice...one from Kaka, one from Pirlo...looks like its not our nite
They seem like beeing in front, like being tired two woodworks in raw Pirlo and Kaka and Fontata is laughing.
Jankulovski off, Maldini on :confused:
alright; tiredness seems to creep in; service to the strikers are awful....
rossoner03
22-10-2006, 14:59
Milan...Milan sempre con te
rahul.acm
22-10-2006, 15:00
I would pay Sacchi just be on the pitch and blast each and every player! We are missing motivation.
rosoneri_11
22-10-2006, 15:00
so inter is losing points from mach to match and we dont taje the advantage to catch them but we make it worst!
This team if continius like this will not earn nothing this year!
I would have taken Seedorf off and put Oliveira on, playing 3 up front with Kaka supporting and just left Pirlo & Gattuso to patrol in front of the defence
Paddy De Nagan
22-10-2006, 15:01
We need Oliveira NOW! Come on the boys :5chore:
lol; and lucky lady is not smiling at all. 2 times hit the post within 30 seconds, long shot from Kaka and another Milan player... can't see who it is...
I change the channel for a while to see El Classico when i i came back i thoufht we were in front.
Warro Bantan
22-10-2006, 15:01
Again, shots from the mid-field...nothing much from our forwards...against teams that defend in numbers, we need a dribbler, who not only can hold up the ball, but dribble...this we lack, and this is why we have so much trouble against teams that dont give us any space...
Ah well, what to do. its going to be a long season....
FORZA MIIIIIIIIIIILAN anyway...
Because of the way they were playing. We play well but we cannot score....
Paddy De Nagan
22-10-2006, 15:03
They're shutting up shop! Now's the time! Come On Milan, they're afraid. :5schal:
rosoneri_11
22-10-2006, 15:04
We need Oliveira NOW! Come on the boys :5chore:
We need a gun to our heads!!!!!!!!
after the last 10 minutes, I feel really sympathetic to Milan. It's not that Milan doesn't have the skills; more than needed to beat a team like Palermo... it's a psychological issue...
rahul.acm
22-10-2006, 15:04
I change the channel for a while to see El Classico when i i came back i thoufht we were in front.
El classico is going much better! There are 10+ channels showing it and only 1 channel showing Milan - Palermo :rolleyes:
Warro Bantan
22-10-2006, 15:05
This is not our nite...nothing is working for us...we are VERY unlucky....now Brocci warms up...BROCCI? Ok Carlo...do ur thing man...its your world, I am just a squirrel trying to get a nut...but I guess a good change, Rino was tired...can Olivera come on please?
Thanks Don Rino!! Good game...but then we let them score...this one is over..
Nice game Milan....good try Dida...our defence....static....heads down...this is over....
Ahh well...its going to be a long season....
Paddy De Nagan
22-10-2006, 15:05
El classico is going much better! There are 10+ channels showing it and only 1 channel showing Milan - Palermo :rolleyes:
Fcuk el classico
King tiger
22-10-2006, 15:05
This is geting worse and worse.
ok, well that's it 0-2, it's just not out night unfortunately
rosoneri_11
22-10-2006, 15:06
Janku out Maldini in!!!!Oh my god what a joke we use a 38years old player to help Milan!!!!!!!And we expect champions league and campionato trophies?????Oh my god!!!!!!!!!
Milan needs world class players and not clowns!
Gosh, maybe a move for Ronaldo might do us some good. Gila and Pippo together is a useless debacle.
Psychological you think? maybe i am a 2nd level in phychologist department but the only thing i am sure is about Gila, he needs to see a specialist.
Paddy De Nagan
22-10-2006, 15:07
Gosh, maybe a move for Ronaldo might do us some good. Gila and Pippo together is a useless debacle.
Ronaldo is past it. Van Persie is the one for us.
Warro Bantan
22-10-2006, 15:07
Wow....our forwards insist on the ball coming to them...there is no attacking the ball...must drop right on his shoelaces, or forehead....Seedorf off for Oliveira
rosoneri_11
22-10-2006, 15:07
ok, well that's it 0-2, it's just not out night unfortunately
****!****!****!****!****!****!****!****!****!****!
0-2! Milan today is a circo!
2-0 to Palermo. It reminds me of Milan - Liverpool when Milan dominated the game but lost eventually.
Gila monster, that's what we can call him now. Useless ugly sack of crap.
**** Dida and his dropped balls! That should have been a catch or a punch to the side! FIRST RULE for goalkeepers.........when you palm a ball away do i to the fu#kin sideeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!
Paddy De Nagan
22-10-2006, 15:09
Twice they had players quicker to the ball after dida saves. Where is our defence?
Warro Bantan
22-10-2006, 15:09
I beg to differ rosoneri..Maldini is not a clown...far from it...but hey...u r upset..so I forgive u this lapse..
Psychological you think? maybe i am a 2nd level in phychologist department but the only thing i am sure is about Gila, he needs to see a specialist.
COME ON GUYS! CUT THIS FREAKING CRAP ABOUT GILADIRNO.
There are 2 stirkers and you guys keep picking up on one. Instead of blasting Nesta for the stupid mistake or Dida for not punching the ball away, you blame GILARDINO. How easy it is?
Grow up and watch the freaking game and stop blaming player. Inzaghi didn't do s*it today as well. Just shut the he@@ up and don't find ANYONE as the scapegoat.
Inter has: Zlatan, Crespo, Cruz, Adriano, Recoba, Martins and they still have problem what we suppose to do only with Paolo alone, Gila in awful shape, Oliveira not adjusted and being transfered the last moment although we are not losers like Inter?
Warro Bantan
22-10-2006, 15:11
Come On Milan!!!!!!!!!1
We don't need Van *****. I think Arjun Robben who gets a game maybe once a month is a good option for us. And don't care if we don't play with wingers or not. We need dribblers dat gumit.
Graeme C
22-10-2006, 15:11
hows the sunshine group doing?
this is game is a joke.....
Arildonardo
22-10-2006, 15:11
We need a gun to our heads!!!!!!!!
Speak for yourself...
the_eels
22-10-2006, 15:12
after the last 10 minutes, I feel really sympathetic to Milan. It's not that Milan doesn't have the skills; more than needed to beat a team like Palermo... it's a psychological issue...
Perhaps it is good that they lose tonight. It will force a re-examination of the players and the squad that we have.
I think that Milan is under too much pressure to perform by starting 8 points behind. The season is still long, hopefully some forceful re-examination can be done.
I do not have much hope for Milan this season because of two things:
1) The loss of Sheva
2) The capioli scandal which robbed us of our entire pre-season and 8 points
I would be glad if we qualified for the Champs league this season.
Graeme C
22-10-2006, 15:12
6 mins to perform a miracle... at this rate im hoping for a top 12 place...
Arildonardo
22-10-2006, 15:13
We don't need Van *****. I think Arjun Robben who gets a game maybe once a month is a good option for us. And don't care if we don't play with wingers or not. We need dribblers dat gumit.
Yeah... We suck, let's strengthen with someone elses left-overs... :hihihi:
King tiger
22-10-2006, 15:13
Ronaldo is past it. Van Persie is the one for us.
I agree..........
I dont blame Gila, i say that he faces a psychological problem, by not scoring the situation gets worse and worse.
rosoneri_11
22-10-2006, 15:14
I beg to differ rosoneri..Maldini is not a clown...far from it...but hey...u r upset..so I forgive u this lapse..
You are right!I'm sorry for that, but im very angry and disapointed!
wow if we continue like this we won't even qualify for champions league
rosoneri_11
22-10-2006, 15:16
Speak for yourself...
And for you!
Graeme C
22-10-2006, 15:17
wow if we continue like this we won't even qualify for champions league
exactly, we have droped big points 2night, were not going to beat inter next week... so were going to struggle! Only people to blame are the Management for spending peanuts...
Paddy De Nagan
22-10-2006, 15:17
wow if we continue like this we won't even qualify for champions league
Take another look at your signature!
Yeah... We suck, let's strengthen with someone elses left-overs... :hihihi:
Robben is a leftover. :rollani: Tell me something, do you do comedy? If so, don't quit the day job picking up the trash in the morning.
That makes how many offsides now?
Paddy De Nagan
22-10-2006, 15:18
Ah, the trademark Inzaghi offside decision
Warro Bantan
22-10-2006, 15:18
wow if we continue like this we won't even qualify for champions league That is my big fear....and we havent had a shot in earnes from any of our forwards...Inot like the little lob Pippo tried just now..a real shot...why? Either their backs are to the goal, or they get blocked...or they cant beat the player...ridiculous...we will be lucky to get a UEFA spot at this rate... :d55:
To think like adults we need not outburst to others at first. Secondly when you decide to sell Sheva you must find a replacement, Sheva wasn't just a stiker for us, he was helping in organizing the game, against tight defences.
Arildonardo
22-10-2006, 15:20
And for you!
I don't need you to speak for me...
If you want a gun to your head, that's your problem.
Personally I'd rather support my team when they're going through bad periods rather than just complain. But that doesn't mean I'm not disappointed as the rest of us.
You know the word SUPPORTER, don't you?
some one needs to get in and beat the hel! out of inzaghi so next time he looks around and not be offside.
Take another look at your signature!
haha i am pissed off so much right now :sagrin:
Warro Bantan
22-10-2006, 15:21
We used up all the luck vs Anderlecht....we might as well focus on avoiding relegation (easy because of the negative points the bottom three have) and try for the UCL trophy...we can go as far as playing the Primavera in some of the league games at this rate...
Paddy De Nagan
22-10-2006, 15:21
To think like adults we need not outburst to others at first. Secondly when you decide to sell Sheva you must find a replacement, Sheva wasn't just a stiker for us, he was helping in organizing the game, against tight defences.
We didn't plan to sell sheva. He wanted to leave, which caught everyone by suprise. We could not plan to replace him.
Hasan Rossonero
22-10-2006, 15:22
I can say, without qualifications, Milan sucked today and deserved to lose.
King tiger
22-10-2006, 15:22
I still cant unterstand how come we lose against stupid Palermo.
the_eels
22-10-2006, 15:22
We didn't plan to sell sheva. He wanted to leave, which caught everyone by suprise. We could not plan to replace him.
Well said ...
Graeme C
22-10-2006, 15:24
I still cant unterstand how come we lose against stupid Palermo.
its because we have no width or depth... the strikers are static.. its easy to just cross the ball into the penaltie area all night, but we need a striker who will go wide and bring the ball in.. Inzaghi and Gila cant do this....
Warro Bantan
22-10-2006, 15:24
Lack of a "Ritiro" to be blamed? the players dont even repay the club´s kindness with any form of a "guts and glory" game...we just keep playing crap....wonder if Carlo will be an early casualty? Lippi was talking bout how he is ready for another coaching stint...hmmm..Kaka dives..and the ref buys it!!! Ha!
You dont plan, you are obliged to replace him, you are Milan!!!!.
Arildonardo
22-10-2006, 15:25
I still cant unterstand how come we lose against stupid Palermo.
Look at their team, they have lots of quality players. If you don't play at your best you lose against teams like that. It's as simple as that.
Warro Bantan
22-10-2006, 15:25
Now they disallow the goal...joke....!!!what a goke!! Gila "fouled" the Palermo player!
Graeme C
22-10-2006, 15:25
Lack of a "Ritiro" to be blamed? the players dont even repay the club´s kindness with any form of a "guts and glory" game...we just keep playing crap....wonder if Carlo will be an early casualty? Lippi was talking bout how he is ready for another coaching stint...hmmm..Kaka dives..and the ref buys it!!! Ha!
something has to be done, if Carlo really cant see the problems then its about time a fresh face is introduced, i cant see Belusconi being happy with the side! i can really see a repeat of 96/97.. and who says history doesnt repeat itself...
I am not young neither old, i am 25, i was supporting Milan even when we didnt qualify for Europe in some periods.
Paddy De Nagan
22-10-2006, 15:27
No more ritiro :beach:
King tiger
22-10-2006, 15:27
Look at their team, they have lots of quality players. If you don't play at your best you lose against teams like that. It's as simple as that.
I know that but we have better players that palermo, we are Milan not Ascoli, we shouldnt be losing against palermo on San Siro.
Warro Bantan
22-10-2006, 15:28
Yup..we need action...unfortunately....and Carlo may very well be the scapegoat...but ultimately, he picks the team, the players play according to his instructions...looks like Carlo may face the sack for the misery we find ourselves in...:moan:
Graeme C
22-10-2006, 15:29
can someone compare the results we have now to results we got under terim at this stange in Seria A?
Paddy De Nagan
22-10-2006, 15:30
Yup..we need action...unfortunately....and Carlo may very well be the scapegoat...but ultimately, he picks the team, the players play according to his instructions...looks like Carlo may face the sack for the misery we find ourselves in...:moan:
I think Milan needs to ponder on Carlo's motivation skills
King tiger
22-10-2006, 15:30
sucks to be Gila.. :delol: :delol: :delol: :delol:
something has to be done, if Carlo really cant see the problems then its about time a fresh face is introduced, i cant see Belusconi being happy with the side! i can really see a repeat of 96/97.. and who says history doesnt repeat itself...
Yup, the discussion has to be on Carlo. He's gone to the old ways for far too long. I wouldn't mind seeing Lippi managing the side. He's got some credentials, don't you think?
I was appreciating Achellotti, i dont agree with sucking him but he may start reconsider his options after having a meeting with Berlusconi and start to plan buying some new players. In CL fortunately we already go through, so we need to do something about the league and then the team to be refresed in the transfer market buying one to two players i think.
_MaJi_tz
22-10-2006, 15:32
:kap: :kap: :kap: :kap: :kap: :kap:
Carlo must leave :5horse: and we must find new coach with new ideas and bring fresh players on four,five position
Graeme C
22-10-2006, 15:33
Yup, the discussion has to be on Carlo. He's gone to the old ways for far too long. I wouldn't mind seeing Lippi managing the side. He's got some credentials, don't you think?
Lippi is the guy i would get, well he knows how to play Gattuso and Pirlo, and he played a Milan formation in the world cup. And if we fire Ancelloti we need someone to come in quickly... so Cesare Maldini might have to be caretaker up to xmas maybe... If you think we had Sacchi and Capello for a arround 4 years, its time for a change...
i want to hear the excuses now: the pitch was hard to play on, the "sun" was blocking our eyes or maybe the referee screwed us, what do you think it will be :rollani:
Paddy De Nagan
22-10-2006, 15:33
Do you think Van Basten should manage us???
rahul.acm
22-10-2006, 15:33
He still will have 2 or 3 games to prove his worth but frankly speaking I don't want carlo to go ever. He is our mastermind. The unfortunate thing is that even Berlu doesn't like him.
Paddy De Nagan
22-10-2006, 15:36
Well I'm off to the cinema to see The Guardian. Maybe it will give me the belief that we can be saved from this mess.
I still cant unterstand how come we lose against stupid Palermo.
Good game for Palermo :tongue1: ... 40% ball possession but didn't lose concentration. Stupid for being at the top of the table again? Don't think so. They have improved their squad this year ... no star players but playing with unity as a team win games. And their main starters were rested not playing in the UEFA cup midweek.
Graeme C
22-10-2006, 15:38
Do you think Van Basten should manage us???
he cant, hes tied with the Dutch side, Donadoni has got the Italian National side, and Rijkaard has Barca... is Hiddink tied? option maybe on Lippi
something has to be done, if Carlo really cant see the problems then its about time a fresh face is introduced, i cant see Belusconi being happy with the side! i can really see a repeat of 96/97.. and who says history doesnt repeat itself...
Many, many here scoffed when I said we were going to look like fools for not getting SOMETHING from the Shev deal. Well...we look like fools. I do not want excuses, especially from our coach. Of course they'll also be saying they are concentrating on CL....but I've always said that the quality of your league play does spill over into CL...it's time, Graeme, I agree.
How was the second goal scored? I didnt see it. I still cannot bring myself to believe Nesta did something THAT stupid. Goes to show that everyone is human..
King tiger
22-10-2006, 15:48
How was the second goal scored? I didnt see it. I still cannot bring myself to believe Nesta did something THAT stupid. Goes to show that everyone is human..
I didnt see the first goal.What did he do?
rosoneri_11
22-10-2006, 15:50
I don't need you to speak for me...
If you want a gun to your head, that's your problem.
Personally I'd rather support my team when they're going through bad periods rather than just complain. But that doesn't mean I'm not disappointed as the rest of us.
You know the word SUPPORTER, don't you?
i know it better than you!!!!!!!
Graeme C
22-10-2006, 15:50
I didnt see the first goal.What did he do?
he read the cross completely wrong, and Bresciano went round him... Second goal Dida spilled a shot, and Amauri hit it in...
Warro Bantan
22-10-2006, 15:52
i want to hear the excuses now: the pitch was hard to play on, the "sun" was blocking our eyes or maybe the referee screwed us, what do you think it will be :rollani: We were unlucky :dontkn:
We are 14th in the table...14TH!
This is the worst I have seen us play in a long time...Gourcuff´s injury has hurt us, and now we have a game on Wednesday...away to Chievo..who are playing well...if we dont get three points from that game, then Carlo has to go...not because I dont like him, but because its obvious that we need a change, and he would be the only change we can make at this point....
Unfortunate, as I would have stuck with Carlo for a few more years...but its not working, and if anything can change, before January, then its his tenure with the club.
Ah well...its going to be a looooooooooong season. :moan:
after the last 10 minutes, I feel really sympathetic to Milan. It's not that Milan doesn't have the skills; more than needed to beat a team like Palermo... it's a psychological issue...
its a coach issue, and then quality issue. Cafu, seedorf - OFF.
one more thing, after seeing the Classico right now, I feel like I need to say this: TO PLAY FOOTBALL YOU NEED TO HAVE A GREAT COACH , AND RUN LIKE HELL! We dont have it. finito.
Graeme C
22-10-2006, 15:55
We were unlucky :dontkn:
We are 14th in the table...14TH!
This is the worst I have seen us play in a long time...Gourcuff´s injury has hurt us, and now we have a game on Wednesday...away to Chievo..who are playing well...if we dont get three points from that game, then Carlo has to go...not because I dont like him, but because its obvious that we need a change, and he would be the only change we can make at this point....
Unfortunate, as I would have stuck with Carlo for a few more years...but its not working, and if anything can change, before January, then its his tenure with the club.
Ah well...its going to be a looooooooooong season. :moan:
im looking forward to the papers tomorrow! :d55: i think if we leave things til after Xmas it will be too late... If the side is that short of talent, why not give some youngsters a starter, its width. If the side struggles because of 1 lil injury then it shows how much trouble we really are in.
Graeme C
22-10-2006, 15:57
i dont think we can actually blame everything on the sheva leaving, i think in a way Rui Costa and Stam leaving has had a bigger overall effect ( Gourcuff is great, but stam is alot better than Bonera)...
This is not one man's fault! out team won't start magically wining again if we buy ronaldinho or bring back sheva or fire ancelotti. There's something wrong with the team as a whole. Theres been a growing cancer in this side since we won cl. since then we have had the depertivo dabacle, the liverpool tragedy, losin to barca ect. ect. It is something we shud have seen comin considering that we have not won anything in the last two years. It is time for a new theory. We no longer need some players to compliment our team, we need new players to base the roots of our team on. The way i see it there are two players that are very key to this team and we need to keep in our system for many years to come, nesta and kaka. we shud no longer buy band aid solution for our defense like favalli or bonera. its time to get rid of that garbage and buy some cornerstones for generations to come. players like barzagli, oddo, torres, sneider, amelia, suazo, gasbarroni. and please get rid of gila, its taking him far too long to find his comfort zone. mayb a deal like gila+cash+wut atletico owe us for torres?but there is no point in firing the coach or buyin a player when it is evident that the unit as a whole is rotten.
Graeme C
22-10-2006, 15:59
i would base a new team arround - Nesta- Gattuso- Pirlo- Kaka . These are our 4 key players..
ACMILAN1983
22-10-2006, 16:00
I wish I had much to say, but I don't. We've really hit rock bottom at this point.
Tbh, today the players looked to be dejected and completely lacking any confidence. Even when we're doing the right things, nothing goes our way (kaka and pirlo hitting the post in a few seconds said it all really)
I won't give up yet, not until we are COMPLETELY unable to win, but a lot of work needs to be done.
its time to make a real development plan, becouse we cant just buy Di Michele and some CB from Siena in January and expect things to be solved. I dont appriciate the way Galliani is making all those stupid comments in papers, its like he is lying in my face. Coach and few players need to be changed, its quite normal after certain period of time. But it needs to be done.
blaming any individual is just useless, let me say it again. But yes, perhaps a change is needed, not for the sake of improving the team, but a change....
rahul.acm
22-10-2006, 16:01
When was the last time we lost at home?
Graeme C
22-10-2006, 16:02
its time to make a real development plan, becouse we cant just buy Di Michele and some CB from Siena in January and expect things to be solved. I dont appriciate the way Galliani is making all those stupid comments in papers, its like he is lying in my face. Coach and few players need to be changed, its quite normal after certain period of time. But it needs to be done.
We have done it before... Year we got Pirlo we did a exodus on players like Guly and Giunti...
ACMILAN1983
22-10-2006, 16:03
When was the last time we lost at home?
March or May 2005 (I forget which)
Graeme C
22-10-2006, 16:07
positive side of the game.. Barzagli didnt look to bad 2night (maybe we can try and sign him next summer)... :noevil2:
i don't think sacking Carlo now will solve anything i think we should stick with him this season and then sack him, we should spend big for next season or we should buy a lot of players because this squad lacks depth and we see how much this hurts us.
With this squad we won't win anything maybe the UCL but i doubt it, i didn't think Sheva's departure would hurt us so much but now i see it did.
Yea Warro you're right we were unlucky that will be Carlo's and everybodies excuse for sure :)
and also we miss Serginho's runs and crosses on the left Janku can't attack like Sergio, the injury of Gourcuff came in bad time also maybe if we had him we could've win some of those draws, that is the problem with don't have depth what will happen if Kaka gets injured for a long time(god forbid) then we'll be really screwed.
A HORRIBLE NIGHT FOR ME AS MILAN LOOSE !!
I loss my big bet on Milan and the tragedy was that I add another bet after half time with a thought that Milan could score.
They don't and conceded another goal from Amauri instead !!!
Not as an excuse but what I saw during the live game on my TV was that Milan played so slow !!
I have noticed this slow pace of ball playing during 3-4 recent games !!!
There is no more pressure game being shown by Milan to force their opponent to defend but just playing the ball so slow, passing incorrectly.
The player were so sloppy were Gattuseo and Seedorf !!
I can't see anymore the pressure from Gattuso ..or maybe he thought that with the captain armband he wore on his arm meaning that he can play so slow and clumpsy??
If Milan do not change their playing tactic or Carletto couldn't find a good strategy on how to play against an almost defending opponents (which almost all teams knew how to play agaist Milan) it would be the end of Milan's winning possibility.....a very closed and tight from the midfield and defense by just letting one or two player upfront..and...Abracadabra ..they stop Milan for scoring goal/s !!
The 1st goal was purely Nesta's fault as he didn't know where the ball is..and Bresciano make use of Nesta's stupidity to score...
The 2nd goal was Dida's fault as it seemed that he's not ready for a shot from..again Bresciano...He just tiiped off the ball not too far away but to Simplicio header and finished by Amauri.....
Again this is the most horrible night for me to watch Milan played like an amateur team...play slowly and no pressure at all !!!
Berlusconi was leaving after the half time and could be a sign for him to find a new coach for Milan....
One more thing...in this situation I just simply miss Serginho who always gice good cross to the strikers!!!!
Graeme C
22-10-2006, 16:34
thats exactly the point, all teams know how to play against us, pack everyone back because Milan strikers are stuck for options...
zlatanov
22-10-2006, 16:39
the game wasn't as bad as the result might suggest and some people are really making it sound like we are real, real bad.
Obviously, one can't say that thigns are going well for us now but the team played well today and showed more agressiveness than in that game vs Livorno for isntance - worst game by Milan this season IMO. Today, if it wasn't for that howler by Nesta, the game could have ended in avery different way as Palermo's second goal was the result of their 0-1 lead as Milan was throwing everyone forward looking for an equaliser.
The team does lack concentration and the string of average results has beat up owr confidence a little but to say that we are playing crap and the coach has to go is jjust plain overreacting IMO not to mention the ridiculous comparissons to the 96/97 and 97/98 seasons.
Right now, we are playing pretty well just not getting the results we should. A lot of work DOES need to be done especaially when it comes to bringing more concreteness and precision in our game. These, however, are issues that are solvable as long as the players, coaches, and club officials manage to keep their heads cool, recognize the problems and get down to work ... and the people working at Milan are experienced enough to know how to deal with situations like this one.
Several players coming back from injuries - like Gorky, Sergio, and Ambro - as well as Gila and RO finally getting their act together will all make things much easier for the coaching staff. Of course, adding some new faces in January could help but we don't need to make this a revolution as one is simply not needed. A touch here and there, raising concentration and awareness among the players we already have will be all we need to be back as contenders on both fronts - its the results that are really lacking, not our play ... this tells me it's more of a psychological/concentartion issue rather than anything to get desparate about - in these situations, the best thing to do is keep cool, while working on the problems instead of point fingers in despair, buy player after player with no clear idea why, and end up making issues much deeper and bigger than they actually are.
Oh, and to most of you guys, please, for the next several days, avoid getting anywhere near kitchens or shooting ranges - I will miss you :sagrin:
Peace and Forza Milan!!!
Agree Zlat the game wasn't bad . But why we have to wait until Palermo score and then play well , why Milan players don't give their maximum from the begining . But not just play well in attack and forget about defence like they did after first goal and then find themself down by 2 goals .. Hope the next games will be better for us ! :moan:
kastriot
22-10-2006, 16:53
the game wasn't as bad as the result might suggest and some people are really making it sound like we are real, real bad.
Obviously, one can't say that thigns are going well for us now but the team played well today and showed more agressiveness than in that game vs Livorno for isntance - worst game by Milan this season IMO. Today, if it wasn't for that howler by Nesta, the game could have ended in avery different way as Palermo's second goal was the result of their 0-1 lead as Milan was throwing everyone forward looking for an equaliser.
The team does lack concentration and the string of average results has beat up owr confidence a little but to say that we are playing crap and the coach has to go is jjust plain overreacting IMO not to mention the ridiculous comparissons to the 96/97 and 97/98 seasons.
Right now, we are playing pretty well just not getting the results we should. A lot of work DOES need to be done especaially when it comes to bringing more concreteness and precision in our game. These, however, are issues that are solvable as long as the players, coaches, and club officials manage to keep their heads cool, recognize the problems and get down to work ... and the people working at Milan are experienced enough to know how to deal with situations like this one.
Several players coming back from injuries - like Gorky, Sergio, and Ambro - as well as Gila and RO finally getting their act together will all make things much easier for the coaching staff. Of course, adding some new faces in January could help but we don't need to make this a revolution as one is simply not needed. A touch here and there, raising concentration and awareness among the players we already have will be all we need to be back as contenders on both fronts - its the results that are really lacking, not our play ... this tells me it's more of a psychological/concentartion issue rather than anything to get desparate about - in these situations, the best thing to do is keep cool, while working on the problems instead of point fingers in despair, buy player after player with no clear idea why, and end up making issues much deeper and bigger than they actually are.
Oh, and to most of you guys, please, for the next several days, avoid getting anywhere near kitchens or shooting ranges - I will miss you :sagrin:
Peace and Forza Milan!!!
I would say that you are right but one think I must say,Seedorf must be benched,not that his not good, he simply doesnt fit with milans style anymore
Kaka,Oliveira, Janku, Cafu, are pace players who like to atack at any time under any condition, Pirlo,Pippo and Gila are unpredictable.And seedorf neither is pace nor is unpredictable,I bet Sergio would do much better, cuz he has the tendency to attack without looking back.Seedorf always stops looks around than he makes a move, players like Kaka and Oliveira dont like that.
Thats what I had to say.
zZ[-_-]Zz
22-10-2006, 17:05
Milan couldn't score against the 2nd worst defence in the Serie A... at our own backyard... a defence that has conceded at least a goal every game so far... so much for our excellent strike-force...
Graeme C
22-10-2006, 17:08
Zz']Milan couldn't score against the 2nd worst defence in the Serie A... at our own backyard... a defence that has conceded at least a goal every game so far... so much for our excellent strike-force...
its not excellent, far from it.... We dont have any brilliant strikers.. Out of all of them Inzaghi is the best, but he cant play every game... and he seems to play in phases...
Hmm... hmm....
It's obveusly we have a big problem in scoring goals this year, perhaps it has some thing to do with Sheva departure??? I'm predicting Milan won't win anything in the next 3 years...
P.S. Juve will be back next year.
Graeme C
22-10-2006, 17:13
Hmm... hmm....
It's obveusly we have a big problem in scoring goals this year, perhaps it has some thing to do with Sheva departure??? I'm predicting Milan won't win anything in the next 3 years...
P.S. Juve will be back next year.
a lil overpredicting there lol! this years going to be a mission, maybe well get the coppa.. If we rebuild the squad it will take a year or so till we can compete on everything...
rossoneri
22-10-2006, 17:19
uuuuuuuuuh that was something special,2-0 at san siro from Palermo , that pised me off , gila sucks he need a treatment like inter did with adriano .
Carlo needs to understand that the 4-3-1-2 just won't work with Gila and Inzaghi paired up front. Seeing that we don't have any support strikers besides Oli.. and since he won't be able to play every three days, I suggest we alternate between 4-3-1-2 and 4-3-2-1...only playing a 4-3-1-2 when Oliveira can play. Higuain or someone of his calibur/style in January would be brilliant.
Ok, "rebuild the squad".... lets see:
1. New GK
2. New defence (Maldini, Costacurta, Cafu all out...)
3. Some refreshment in the midfield
4. Worldclass striker
That will cost how much?? 50-80 millions??? And who is going spend it?? Berlusconi??? What a stupitidy will it be if he'll spend 90 mill on Ronaldinho and leave the rest of the team as it is.... than we'll descover that even Ronaldinho can be useless, in our team at least.
zZ[-_-]Zz
22-10-2006, 17:30
its not excellent, far from it.... We dont have any brilliant strikers.. Out of all of them Inzaghi is the best, but he cant play every game... and he seems to play in phases...
oh well... i said before that the strike-force was crap... especially Gilardino... and some members here started insultin' me... sayin' i was stupid & what-not... and alot started tellin' me that he was not as bad as i described... in short... most agree i was wrong...
so i decided to try things the other way... sayin' that we have an excellent strike-force but without namin' players... and now i am wrong again... oh well... you can't please everyone i guess...
Egoistka
22-10-2006, 18:00
I am very dissapointed with this match. First of all, Milan didnt deserve to lose 0:2. The following things were horribly wrong::
1. during the first half everyone tried to pass on Nesta, to make him score a goal for his recently born daughter. If we have been winning 2:0 at the time, I would understand such thing, but not really when the score was 0:0. That was costly, as we now can see. Nesta was so much in attack, that seems to me he have forgotten that he is a defender in fact.
2. Inzaghi for the whole match was in offside, constantly complaining at the ref about his decision.
3. Gilardino missed many good opportunities to score.
4. The substitution of Gattuso for Brocchi was the wrong one.
5. Kaladze made bad mistakes in defence.
Kaka played well...Every attack was started by him, almost every cross was made by Kaka. I guess he was very unlucky today, but still I think he was the man of the match. Dida did all he could...I dont think that the goals are his mistake. Cafu and Seedorf constantly were losing the ball, or passing it to Palermo. Pirlo was playing well, but not as good as he usually does. Oliveira have been given too little time to do smth, I think Ancelotti should have given him more time...at least 40 mins.
Considering that Palermo doesnt have a good defence - we ve done really bad...we should have scored, and not once (especially knowing how good is Palermo's attack at the moment). Bresciano and Corini have played very good, and our Nesta (who probably doesnt sleep at night properly now) was unable to shut their attacks. I hope that this "Nesta period" will not be long - otherwise we are in a big trouble: we have big problems in attack, plus now we started having problems in defence. During 6 matches in Seria A this year we considered only 2 goals...and today against Palermo 2 in one match.... :str: :(
remote2book
22-10-2006, 18:03
iam speechless right now.....losing from palermo...at the san siro? did half you guys even see the game...the refs are blind.....they keep calling false pffsides and give no fowls to milan espicially to inzaghi....just becasue he has the reputation of a diver..doesnt men he does it everytime i mean CLEARLY CLEARLY..on more then one occasion he was onside...and the ref keep calling it offside...its like all of the refs are against us to show everybody that they are not being bribed or watever but as for milan we r a great team its just our finishing isnt at top form yet...if you guys dont remember serighinio is out..and he could litteraly light up the team with his faboulus runs any1 know when hes ocming back?
to save this season we need to change formation to 4-5-1. Buy a creative AM, someone, there are some good young palyers in sure.... And play with more possesion game. this simply isnt working, we are too slow and too predictable.
With just one chamge we can do this..........
......................pirlo..........
......gattuso........gourcuff.....
.........kaka'........someone ( maybe this River kid...)
................pippo..........................
this would change our game drastically.
Egoistka
22-10-2006, 18:09
iam speechless right now.....losing from palermo...at the san siro? did half you guys even see the game...the refs are blind.....they keep calling false pffsides and give no fowls to milan espicially to inzaghi....just becasue he has the reputation of a diver..doesnt men he does it everytime i mean CLEARLY CLEARLY..on more then one occasion he was onside...and the ref keep calling it offside...its like all of the refs are against us to show everybody that they are not being bribed or watever but as for milan we r a great team its just our finishing isnt at top form yet...if you guys dont remember serighinio is out..and he could litteraly light up the team with his faboulus runs any1 know when hes ocming back?
I d love to say that you are right and that was ref's fault...BUT..I have a very big screened plazma TV with HD (High Definition standart) and believe me I can perfectly see everything, what is going on, especially on replays. Inzaghi was in offside for the whole match today. Honestly, he pissed me off with it today. We had so many great opportunities wasted, coz Pippo was in offside.
zZ[-_-]Zz
22-10-2006, 18:21
you guys think the defeat is bad? get ready for somethin' worse... Ancelotti & big B agrees that Milan played well & they said they were not disappointed by the performance (or lack of in my opinion)... lazy to post a link... but you can find it in the official website...
the management treats us... the fans like idiots... surely they cannot expect us to be blind to the fact that the performance was nothin' short of a disaster...
this worries me... because it is one thing to lose with a pathetic display & admittin' that changes are needed & therefore action can be taken... but it is another thing to lose in this matter & fail to spot the disaster & plan for further much needed reinforcements...
Egoistka
22-10-2006, 18:23
Zz']you guys think the defeat is bad? get ready for somethin' worse... Ancelotti & big B agrees that Milan played well & they said they were not disappointed by the performance (or lack of in my opinion)... lazy to post a link... but you can find it in the official website...
the management treats us... the fans like idiots... surely they cannot expect us to be blind to the fact that the performance was nothin' short of a disaster...
this worries me... because it is one thing to lose with a pathetic display & admittin' that changes are needed & therefore action can be taken... but it is another thing to lose in this matter & fail to spot the disaster & plan for further much needed reinforcements...
I agree with you...I dont know how Ancelotti could say that the performance was good, having such face as he did while giving the interview. He looked as he ve just barried his relative or smth.
I didn't see the game as I was too ocupied watching Real trash Barca..hehe..I'll say that I still belive this season is not lost. I think it's the players fault as much as it is Carlo's (who rotates the squad quite badly, but his tactics and coaching approach are fine). They play with complete lack of vision in the midfield. We play the same plays over and over again with no effect. It's like the players have no inspiration. And no coach can inspire an uninspired team without some radical cuts. And cuts in defense won't change the way we play offensively.
The bottom line for me is that Kaka is no good (never mind the goal vs Anderlecht). He's the fantasista. That means he cant go for 10 miuntes withoug geting the ball. And the other three mF need to stay in formation and press the opponent and the results will show.
Finaly, I also don't like this everything is fine thing from Milanello, but I most seriously oppose the position that Milan is going down faster than the Titanic..
Egoistka
22-10-2006, 19:46
The bottom line for me is that Kaka is no good (never mind the goal vs Anderlecht). He's the fantasista. That means he cant go for 10 miuntes withoug geting the ball. And the other three mF need to stay in formation and press the opponent and the results will show.
I didnt really understand this phrase.... :wow: So Kaka is no good?
Bosniaco
22-10-2006, 20:00
You know what people, I'm really sick of this " we played well but we were unlucky" this is bull**** and I'm sick of it. All I care about is three points and not how we played, WE NEED THE POINTS we are falling behind... WAKE UP EVERYONE
I havent got a clue what some people here are talking about. Giving match reports without even bothering to watch the game..criticising Kaka who is our one driving force this season...blaiming Carlo for the strikers poor form etc
I mean for God's sake what should Carlo do run on the pitch and score himself. Milan were absolutely dominant, the midfield was bending over backwards to get our strikers a goal, but they couldnt score in a brothel right now. Nesta decided to defend like an amatuer for one moment after which the team were just mentally hurt because our strikers were just not going to score and all of a sudden its Carlo's fault.
You could tell Carlo told the midfield to get the ball to the strikers, Pirlo was sending heat seekers to them every five minutes, Seedorf was actually playing quickly most of the time instead of in slow motion, Gatusso was desperate to tackle anyone with the ball, Kaka was trying to feed the strikers all game long. The fullbacks were pushing forward even though their crossing wasnt too good. Even Kaladze was trying to get things going. Maldini made some great moves when he came on, Oliveira seemed happy to just get a game, I mean you do realise he cant pick Diego Maradona dont you.
Tell me what did you really want Carlo to do, he simply doesnt have the tools available to him to go out and win every week. If you want some one to blaime then blaime Galliani for thinking he works for Bolton Wonderers and signing average players to replace champions.
hitmannq8
22-10-2006, 20:03
I think its good we lost this game so our players finally understand that we have to run our butts off to win, and the game is not won just because we are AC Milan.
I will repeat again and again, the reason we are losing this year is because of MILANS MANAGEMENT. Not because of the coach, not because of Gila that amateur, not because of Nesta. It is because we dont have a world class squad but we have a world class starting lineup, THATS IT. FKING patheting transfer campaign, not even if i was a Torino fan i would be happy with. Galliani and Braida are the ones to blame for this disgusting transfer campaign.
Ofcourse the players are also at fault during times, but what more can they do? Our 3 midfielders have to play almost every game because Gourcuff is out injured, Ambro breaks a nail every now and then and gets injured for six months, and Brocchi who simply isnt good enough. Kaka who has no sub at all, has to play every game whether he is tired or not. And last but not least, our mediocre attack who cant create for sh*t.
Fire Galliani and Braida already. A club as rich as Milan going for free or cheap 30+ year old for the team, and selling our STAR player for 30m and getting an unproven player to play in his place. What pisses me off the most, is that we only bought Oliveira to meet his agent to get Ronaldinho. Its like they even know that hes not good enough.
GET RID OF THIS MANAGEMENT, AND USE THIS TRANSFER WINDOW WISELY
Egoistka
22-10-2006, 20:09
I havent got a clue what some people here are talking about. Giving match reports without even bothering to watch the game..criticising Kaka who is our one driving force this season...blaiming Carlo for the strikers poor form etc
I mean for God's sake what should Carlo do run on the pitch and score himself. Milan were absolutely dominant, the midfield was bending over backwards to get our strikers a goal, but they couldnt score in a brothel right now. Nesta decided to defend like an amatuer for one moment after which the team were just mentally hurt because our strikers were just not going to score and all of a sudden its Carlo's fault.
You could tell Carlo told the midfield to get the ball to the strikers, Pirlo was sending heat seekers to them every five minutes, Seedorf was actually playing quickly most of the time instead of in slow motion, Gatusso was desperate to tackle anyone with the ball, Kaka was trying to feed the strikers all game long. The fullbacks were pushing forward even though their crossing wasnt too good. Even Kaladze was trying to get things going. Maldini made some great moves when he came on, Oliveira seemed happy to just get a game, I mean you do realise he cant pick Diego Maradona dont you.
Tell me what did you really want Carlo to do, he simply doesnt have the tools available to him to go out and win every week. If you want some one to blaime then blaime Galliani for thinking he works for Bolton Wonderers and signing average players to replace champions.
Yes I also liked the guy, who said that he didnt really watch the game, but critisized it...About Ancelotti...I was unhappy hearing that we played well, while everyone understands that we played very bad.
humanTORCH
22-10-2006, 20:11
Getting rid of these management???? :moan:
Have u ever get forgotten for the past years what the management have done?
I was speaking on general terms, just trying to explain my vision of play. To have Kaka play a 3/4 role with freedom and vision and have the three mF behind him stay in formation, cover some space and pass decisevely and with percision. And to have a solid back four. Then, the wins are sure to come.
As I didnt watch the game, I was actually commenting the Anderlecht game where every Millan possesion was EXACTLY the same and I dont remember seeing Kaka with the ball once in the whole first half...when I let it out on Kaka its just that...I'm angry that he goes AWOL for periods...I will try to watch more games :-)
P.S. and why should I expect our game to change from tuesday to sunday,..as it obiously did.. :)
Getting rid of these management???? :moan:
Have u ever get forgotten for the past years what the management have done?
I remember them all too well, players like Giully and Chamot. Before Ancelotti came we were a damn uefa cup team. People will only realise what a good coach we have when either:
1. Galliani takes that money he is stashing and spends it.
2. Carlo has enough and goes and manages a club who genuinely have some ambition.
Ok, "rebuild the squad".... lets see:
1. New GK
2. New defence (Maldini, Costacurta, Cafu all out...)
3. Some refreshment in the midfield
4. Worldclass striker
That will cost how much?? 50-80 millions??? And who is going spend it?? Berlusconi??? What a stupitidy will it be if he'll spend 90 mill on Ronaldinho and leave the rest of the team as it is.... than we'll descover that even Ronaldinho can be useless, in our team at least.
yeah...a right back, a left back and a Ronaldinho
rahul.acm
22-10-2006, 20:24
If we act and think then we will become Inter if think and act we remain Milan. Although our management is showing that they are cool with the situation but behind the doors they are doing what is needed.
And don't blame Ancelotti! Coaches like him are not available on the streets. :dumpf:
Egoistka
22-10-2006, 20:29
Carlo is a good coach. But there is always a time when coach have given everything to the team he manages and there is nothing more he can add - that is the time when a coach needs to go to another club. All teams always need some changes, some new blood, some new style - and this is actually what Milan desperately needs now.
TAS: Kaka was the best player of Milan today, believe me, I watched the match.
Yay lets get Ronaldinhio he will sort all our problems out. After all he sorts all Barcas out. Oh actually he doesnt, without Etoo taking the goal scoring pressure away he plays like cr4p. But lets get him anyway, so he can play cr4p for us when our strikers dont score. We can just shut our eyes and imagine him scoring.
Apart from the fact that Carlo isnt flavour of the month, what exactly is he supposed to have done wrong?
Egoistka
22-10-2006, 20:56
Apart from the fact that Carlo isnt flavour of the month, what exactly is he supposed to have done wrong?
He ve done nothing wrong - he just gave Milan all he had. Milan is now very predictable, and unfortunately Carlo cannot do anything with that.
So you think if Carlo had lets say Etto and Alves aswel as Serghinio and Gourcuff back he couldnt do anything with that.
I guarantee Carlo would win us the CL with those players.
Egoistka
22-10-2006, 21:07
So you think if Carlo had lets say Etto and Alves aswel as Serghinio and Gourcuff back he couldnt do anything with that.
I guarantee Carlo would win us the CL with those players.
Its not really all about the players - its about tactics. He d play the same tactics with whatever players, because its his style. I can give you an example...Zenit ST-Petersburg...we have go a new coach now - **** Advocat. He is soooo much different from our previous coach, which was also a good one in my opinion. With the same players, we play differently, and we win almost every game now....Consider that at the start of the season we lost all games in a raw, a draw was a great result for us. And now from the very bottom we rased to the 4th position and have all chances to fight for a golden medal. That is what I am talking about...
You know what people, I'm really sick of this " we played well but we were unlucky" this is bull**** and I'm sick of it. All I care about is three points and not how we played, WE NEED THE POINTS we are falling behind... WAKE UP EVERYONE
To be precise we play like bullsh*t so we got the bullsh*t. Bye bye Scudetto, not because of the points we have now but because the squad quality.
In fact this defeat is a good sign so that the management can understand a simple fact: you spend sh*t you get sh*t.
Whaaat??????? :v46:
Cappello has his style too
two big doods in central midfield and a lack of creativity.
Carlo's system is fine, it just needs someone to replace Cafu and Seedorf when they are not fully upto it and a new striker to replace Sheva. Let me remind you we have been the most succesful team in the CL in the past few years with Carlo's system.
And players not being important, when we play Barca or Chelsea this year and Nesta or Kaka are injured then Il ask you who will win. :ilol:
If this Advocat dood has recently become your manager its just a honeymoon period and mostlikely wont be long lasting. ie Mancini.
Egoistka
22-10-2006, 21:18
Whaaat??????? :v46:
Cappello has his style too
two big doods in central midfield and a lack of creativity.
Carlo's system is fine, it just needs someone to replace Cafu and Seedorf when they are not fully upto it and a new striker to replace Sheva. Let me remind you we have been the most succesful team in the CL in the past few years with Carlo's system.
And players not being important, when we play Barca or Chelsea this year and Nesta or Kaka are injured then Il ask you who will win. :ilol:
I didnt say that players are not important..I said that with same players and different tactics teams play differently. We are PREDICTABLE. WE are not a secret and not a wonder for anyone in SEria A. Everyone knows more or less who ll start the game, what substitutions Carlo will make and who ll move where during the game.
Ask your self why, every one knows our starting line up and our substutions.
Because he hasnt got the players available.
Egoistka
22-10-2006, 21:25
Ask your self why, every one knows our starting line up and our substutions.
Because he hasnt got the players available.
Oh, please...and how does everyone know where ll Kaka move during the game, from which side Pirlo will try to attack, how Nesta ll defend, how we do free kicks and corners, how ll the team rotate during the match...and how often when we win just 1:0 Ancelotti starts playing 5 -5....and many other things. Just because its the same all the time.
This is just ridiculous. Not just yesterday's result, but our play and results over the last 3-4 games or so. Somebody has to take responsibility. I dont think Carlo's necessarily to blame. As somebody has already mentioned, if you're given crap to work with, then how much can we really expect?
If the management wants to take credit for us being the most successful team in Europe (despite winning only 2 major trophies) over the past few years, then they also have to take criticism for GAMBLING on 35 year old Cafu, Seedorf, Inzaghi/Gila, RO and essentially the same midfield as 2003!!! Everyone know our team needed some freshening up over the summer. Everyone know we needed to replace our game-winning striker. BUt management decided to take their chances----I will never understand why. After pocketing a cool 30M for Sheva, the least we could have done is brought in some world class players---and IMO, Oliveira doesnt fit the bit. He should have come in for AMoroso, not for Shevchenko.
Capello has got his own style, but at least he has some ambition. Look what he has done with Real Madrid. They got Diarra (supposedly our transfer target), RVN, Reyes, Cannavaro, Emerson---all this while we pick up Oliveira and a young Gourcuff. This is just ridiculous. I am not one for buying players simply for the hell of it, but when you actually NEED them, why do we insist that our current players are good enough. How many more years is Cafu, Dida, Seedorf going to give us? And like someone said, what if Kaka gets injured? Then what?
I would say that you are right but one think I must say,Seedorf must be benched,not that his not good, he simply doesnt fit with milans style anymore
Kaka,Oliveira, Janku, Cafu, are pace players who like to atack at any time under any condition, Pirlo,Pippo and Gila are unpredictable.And seedorf neither is pace nor is unpredictable,I bet Sergio would do much better, cuz he has the tendency to attack without looking back.Seedorf always stops looks around than he makes a move, players like Kaka and Oliveira dont like that.
Thats what I had to say.
BRAVO KASTRIOT !!!
I can't explain as good as you do above!!
There are 2 players I had noticed in recent Milan games.
1. Seedorf always hold the ball and looked around where to pass it or made back passes with a very slow pace meaning to hold the team pace in overall.
2. Gattuso didn't as fast as before and seems that he loose his pressure power to hold the opponent players. In many cases he also like Seedorf..slowing down the pace of the team play.
Hope that Milan could improve in the midweek game against the Flying Donkey who have their Old Trainer back in their home...Gigi Neri who had a good record against Milan.
The only person who could adequately replace Gattuso is De Rossi.. who is too in love with Roma to leave.
Edit: Maybe not the ONLY person..but the best possible replacement.
Yes we have been so predictable. Take Palermo too as a counterexample. This team takes risks owning to the fact that they’ve scored so many goals and conceded a whole lot too, and some from laughable mistakes. Played a back 4 against a win with Lazio and today, they only had 3 in their backline. Even Zaccardo usually plays as a right back and not on the left. And I’ve seen their defense running up front to counter and confident in leaving their line (Barzagli - who was stellar :lick: , Zaccardo). When I was watching this game, it was reminiscent of how Palermo frustrated Lazio from scoring in a previous game, although Lazio had more chances and ball possession.
But this Palermo had a common consciousness and alertness, what Milan seemed to be missing today. Some of our players played well, pushed forward but a missed pass in a linkup costed a lot. When our pace was slow, Palermo’s midfield sniffed out our passes and closed in on us. Seedorf was slow :wow: and hence the attack hesistant at times and the baldies and co. were more dynamic! Sorry Gila, but he wasn’t in the rhythm too. I almost laughed when someone thought of a Milan 3-0 scoreline because Palermo have been doing well and have been focused in their away games, and also deservedly won today.
If we want to improve, we first have to admit that the other team played better as a whole (played to win). We can't keep saying that we played well, hit the post, Gila unlucky again, again, again etc. As we can see from the series of consecutive draws we had in Serie A, our stale playing style and tactics culminated in a home game that we lost.
I have always had this idea that our midfield gets the most balance with Seedorf because he defends and attacks and he does both pretty good. Lately however, he looks so slow...that I don't even expect him to pass the ball in less then 3-4 seconds. Is he lazy to get himself in the open so he can actually play pay attention to where his teammates are be quick to get them the ball? Because it seemd today like he was always struggling with the ball and had to look around every time he got the ball. It took him forever to even make the simplest pass.
Inzaghi's form seems to have dipped as fast as it came after his long-term injury. I was so furious with him....I wished I could jump on the field and b!tch-smack him to tell him that he needs to look around if he is onside before making a run..........then again that is nothing new with him however on other occasions he would score after being in offside 100billion times and lately he doesn't. Both him and Gilardino missed some opportunities as they could have done better.
Nesta was good......but what was he doing on the first goal. I gues you can't blame the guy. No one is perfect and everyone will make mistakes. I seriously can not recall Nesta doing something like that ever before.
The second goal..........Dida Dida Dida. What more to say. He is one of the best keepers in the world........but the guy has a problem with shots as he never holds them. Even though he does good with palming them away as that one maybe couldn't have been held........but come on. They teach 10 year old keepers this rule......."WHEN YOU PUNCH....PUNCH TO THE SIDE, NEVER THE MIDDLE".
As of asking for Carlo's head?...come on. Be serious. We have to look at the fact that our team depends too much on Pirlo and Kaka. There is no more Shevchenko, there is no more younger explosive and healthy Cafu, and apperantly there is no more good Seedorf. Serginho is injured and we lack forwards so we are forced to play with 2 box strikers who can't create for crap. On the other hand we have injuries that are forcing Kaka to play every single freakin game............and when rough times come like for example we are down 1-0...........we have no attacking options. We needed an attacking option in midfield but the best we have at the time is Brocchi so that's who Carlo put in. Seedorf decides to play as slow as my grandma but what can Carlo do? Who to put in??? Gourcuff is injured and he is the ONLY offensive midfield substitution we have.
Where is Carlo's fault in this???? Some of you please tell me that!!
I don't mind seeing a change at the end of the season. Hopefully Lippi. But at this point of time.....there is no need for Carlo sack. It simply won't help us as it is not him who is at fault......but some of the players need to get their act together or simply be replaced.
I believe in this team as someone here mentioned it before. WE DO HAVE A WOLRD CLASS STARTING 11 that can play with any team in the world on any given day. Sometimes things will go wrong however and that is understandable (like today)... but that is where the back ups come in and that is where we are short or simply not good enough.
Our eleven starters:
1/ Dida needs to be replced, he is not singing anyway
2/ Cafu needs to be replced, he is too old
3/ Kalaz needs to be benched
4/ Nesta can start (but going down)
5/ Janku needs to be replaced
6/ Seedorf needs to be benched
7/ Gatuso is OK (but going down)
8/ Pirlo is OK
9/ Kaka is OK
10/ and 11/ 2 of out striker need to be replaced or benched.
Out of 11 only 4 are OK, how do we win things with this squad ?
hitmannq8
23-10-2006, 01:34
i really now started laughing about the score because it is too ridiculous.. what a disgrace!
anyway, lets see what happens in chievo.. its been now 6 games in a row where we played 100% boring, predictable football and still another game where we couldn't score a goal. THERE IS A PROBLEM, WE CANT IGNORE IT. Bring Piazza. Bring Di Gennaro. FFS EVEN PUT FIORI IN ATTACK, I DONT GIVE A FLYING FK WHO YOU BRING, but just dont you see that what we are doing doesnt work? I dont want to see a Pippo/Gila partnership again, EVER.
rosoneri_11
23-10-2006, 02:28
This is just ridiculous. Not just yesterday's result, but our play and results over the last 3-4 games or so. Somebody has to take responsibility. I dont think Carlo's necessarily to blame. As somebody has already mentioned, if you're given crap to work with, then how much can we really expect?
If the management wants to take credit for us being the most successful team in Europe (despite winning only 2 major trophies) over the past few years, then they also have to take criticism for GAMBLING on 35 year old Cafu, Seedorf, Inzaghi/Gila, RO and essentially the same midfield as 2003!!! Everyone know our team needed some freshening up over the summer. Everyone know we needed to replace our game-winning striker. BUt management decided to take their chances----I will never understand why. After pocketing a cool 30M for Sheva, the least we could have done is brought in some world class players---and IMO, Oliveira doesnt fit the bit. He should have come in for AMoroso, not for Shevchenko.
Capello has got his own style, but at least he has some ambition. Look what he has done with Real Madrid. They got Diarra (supposedly our transfer target), RVN, Reyes, Cannavaro, Emerson---all this while we pick up Oliveira and a young Gourcuff. This is just ridiculous. I am not one for buying players simply for the hell of it, but when you actually NEED them, why do we insist that our current players are good enough. How many more years is Cafu, Dida, Seedorf going to give us? And like someone said, what if Kaka gets injured? Then what?
Well done!!!I agree with you 100%!!!
rosoneri_11
23-10-2006, 02:41
Milan without sheva or the best replacement for him cant win anything!!!
I m starting to think that we are goin to have a big crisis if we don't do something!!!!!
Graeme C
23-10-2006, 02:48
i really now started laughing about the score because it is too ridiculous.. what a disgrace!
anyway, lets see what happens in chievo.. its been now 6 games in a row where we played 100% boring, predictable football and still another game where we couldn't score a goal. THERE IS A PROBLEM, WE CANT IGNORE IT. Bring Piazza. Bring Di Gennaro. FFS EVEN PUT FIORI IN ATTACK, I DONT GIVE A FLYING FK WHO YOU BRING, but just dont you see that what we are doing doesnt work? I dont want to see a Pippo/Gila partnership again, EVER.
i was going to Mension Di Gennaro, think if we still are without a paddle in the next couple of weeks i would start him... or we could play a 4-5-1 and play Piazza next to Kaka.
How much control does Ancelloti have over the transfers? Milan need a scapegoat and i cant see Belusconi firing Galliani.... I dont want to be over negative and depressing, but people here need to see how things really are, and what a state we are in.
What is best, to play ok and lose 0-2 or play like a bunch of noobs and draw 1-1?
I find it amazing that some people here are only now seeing the problems that some of us have been trying to point out for quite a long time.
Anyway, for those who are interested, the attendance was 51,000 last night and Berlusconi made a point to congratulate Palermo's director (Gloomy?) in person and compliment his team. It's nice to know that we still have class.
Gila and Pippo don't even know how to make a run to make space for each other or make passes to each other, they step on each other foot. Must send Gila back to Parm to recover his form and kick his ash for some money. He is not the sh*t we need.
Sorry, but that's a pathetic idea. You make the statement that Inzaghi & Gilardino doesn't work as a partnership (something we all can see) but then you blame Gilardino for it! How does that work? A partnership involves 2 people, not one!
Graeme C
23-10-2006, 04:26
if you want to blame either of them, you could blame inzaghi for being so blooming selfish with the ball, at least Gila trys to set people up. I feel sorry for Gila because everythings been dumped on him, he hasnt got a decent support striker to play with.
Graeme C
23-10-2006, 04:39
i just feel so angry, and gutted ... Also a bit of " i told you so!"
Well I'm certain that I did not want Milan to lose this game, but we did. So get over it people! Once in a while however, a loss much like this one against Palermo really tells me a lot about some of you fans. That is... a loss like this shows me the fools that some of you really are. I think of all these posts here I found only Zlat's to my liking. Let me just summate the thread here for you all, followed by a personal comment by me.
1. We lost and we want somebody's head for it. Kui: Call this a blood atonement on the so called fans part.
2. Our Scudetto chances are over. Kui: I've heard this one before! Debs might as well shut the site down and save some money if this is the crud I that is going to be in the forum til May.
3. We really needed Sheva. Kui: I thought the lot of you said he was over the hill? OH WAIT! Lets blame his wife.
4. Bonera sucks. Kui: Why all the threads titled "Lets get Bonera"?
5. Gila cant score for us. Kui: The lot of you wanted him. What? Now you all dont want him? I thought he was our future? Oh you guys meant like now! Go figure? :dconf: Future=NOW :dconf:
6. Our lineup should be player x here and player x there. Kui: Tomorrow you all will tell me Carlo needs to rotate the squad more. :rolleyes:
7. :gun: Lets put a gun to their heads. :5milan: Kui: Oh yeah that would help our team a lot if the trigger is pulled. :rolleyes: Seems like the misery is coming from the fans. Maybe the "gun" should be pointed somewhere else.
8. We're going to lose against INTER next week. Kui: That may be the case. I think we're going to win. NO! WE WILL WIN against INTER! You all can sneak in the backdoor and steal Milan's glory at the victory party and say... :d6: Normally people who predict the downfall of others dont get invited.
9. We have been so predictable. Kui: What are you all then predicting? Never mind! I already know. :rolleyes:
10. We need to change and like now! The staff, the top management... the whole lot! Kui: Oh yeah! Let me take it from an expert logged on to MilanMania to know what's good for the club. :rolleyes:
11. I dont want a Gila/Pippo pair again. Kui: Perhaps Fiori instead as someone suggested. Would you be happy if we had Galliani score for us? Yeah lets put him in. In fact lets put Carlo in as a striker being that he supposedly sucks as a manager. Lets not have a manager as the season is done according to some of you.
12. We're in a crisis, hard place, suck, 14th place. Kui: Let me suggest bigger words like quagmire, quandry, dilema, plight, between Scylla and Charybdis, Gordian knot, tribulation, for those who think so.
Sigh... someone broke a nail and you all are running out of a building as if its going to collapse! While you all have ran out, those that do count, the club exec, trainers, coach, and players are in there trying there best to keep it from falling. I guess that is the measure of the word "FAN". First to run away, b!tch, and moan when the going gets tough. AND first in line for meal when others worked so hard to provide the bounty. Congratulations! Very constructive thread people. Stolen Honor, Stolen Glory.
10. We need to change and like now! The staff, the top management... the whole lot! Kui: Oh yeah! Let me take it from an expert logged on to MilanMania to know what's good for the club. :rolleyes:
11. I dont want a Gila/Pippo pair again. Kui: Perhaps Fiori instead as someone suggested. Would you be happy if we had Galliani score for us? Yeah lets put him in. In fact lets put Carlo in as a striker being that he supposedly sucks as a manager. Lets not have a manager as the season is done according to some of you.
10. Don't you think we need a change? Talk of sacking the manager or getting rid of berlusconi is ludicrous. During the summer though i admit i was keen to give Galliani and Braida the boot for a poor transfer campaign, but i digress. We've had insignificant changes to the squad for far too long, players that come in and don't really offer anything to our team. Yet now when we have a few injuries and losses of form, we can see that these secondary players offer nothing to us at all. We may only be MM experts, but it doesn't take a genius to see that we don't have the right players in our squad right now.
So people calling for change (at the appropriate levels) shouldn't be condemmed for speaking their minds.
11. Again, we may only be MM experts, but most of us can see that playing two similar players (especially one who is struggling with form) is not good for the club. We spent £12 million on a player and we stick him on the bench. Why? What's the point of having him if you don't play him, especially as he (Oliveira) would be a better foil for either Inzaghi or Gilardino, than either of those would be for the other. We also have Boriello, why not give him a shot too? We have some Primavera strikers/attackers, why not give them a try out? When things aren't going well, you have to look to alternative methods, if you persist with a partnership that doesn't work it suggests either the manager is dumb (which he isn't) or that he doesn't have faith in the other options he has at his disposal.
For the most part, i agree with your other comments and indeed some of them made me chuckle.
Hasan Rossonero
23-10-2006, 05:56
It is not the end of the world but Milan sucked against Palermo. Nesta made a horrible mistake and Palermo defended superbly.
Of course, Wednesday I will watch the game as if Sunday was a bad dream. Do I believe things should change? Well I think our strikers need to start scoring. I don't think it is a matter of buying player A and getting rid of employee B.
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