Shakhtar Donetsk vs Milan: Il Fenomeno Ritorna

[hitmannq8]

Tuesday 6th November.

Group standings as of now:
Milan 6 points
Shakhthar 6 points
Celtic 3 points
Benfica 3 points

Need a win so we dont make lives difficult for ourselves. We beat them 4-1 at home and totally outplayed them, lets hope for the same in Ukraine. Last time we played there we drew 0-0 (2 years ago I reckon).


Formation I'd go for is the usual one:
Dida
Oddo - Nesta - Maldini - Serginho
Gattuso - Pirlo - Ambrosini
Kaka - Seedorf
Gila

With Ronaldo coming on for Gattuso in case we needed a win, or coming on for Ambrosini in case we have the lead. If we have a huge lead, take off Kaka.

[Jeff]

Pretty good formation, although I may put Inzaghi ahead of Gila who may be tired after a few games in a row.

I may even take Seedorf off and substitute Ronaldo to start, if he is fit.

[burns]

the 22 players called up for the trip to donetsk (courtesy acmilan.com):

GOALKEEPERS: Dida, Kalac, Fiori;
DEFENDERS: Bonera, Cafu, Favalli, Kaladze, Maldini, Nesta, Oddo, Serginho, Simic;
MIDFIELDERS: Ambrosini, Brocchi, Gattuso, Gourcuff, Pirlo, Seedorf;
ATTACKERS: Gilardino, Inzaghi, Ronaldo, Kakà

[lked]

Hitman good formation , Serginho should start this one from the 1st minute as he proved himself in the last 2 games with some great croses and i agree with Jeff if i was Carlo i'd put Ronaldo insted of Seedorf if he is fit of course that would also mean a little rest for Willy Wonka who has been MVP in Milan in last games .

I'd go for this :
----------Dida----------
-Oddo-Nesta-Maldini-Serginho
-Gattuso--Pirlo-Ambrosini----
---------Kaka---------------
----Ronaldo---Gila-----------

:diablo: :diablo:
Forza Milan & Welcome back Fenomeno

[curry chicken]

Need a win so we dont make lives difficult for ourselves.

But making life difficult for us is one of those things we do best. :zany:

Ronnie back is fantastic news (Dru must be swinging off his roof right about now). Though Carlo has mentioned that he wants to try Gila and Ronnie together, I doubt he would start him on his first game back. I predict Shaktar will be a diffferent team at home, and Milan shouldn't let the 4-1 win fool them, so expect Kaka-Seedorf-Rino to end up playing the full 90.

[Blacktop]

Maybe it's just me, but I think it's silly to take Ronaldo to the Ukraine when he's coming off his injury and is nowhere near 100% fit. Couldn't we save him for next Sunday's match v. Atalanta instead?

[hitmannq8]

Maybe it's just me, but I think it's silly to take Ronaldo to the Ukraine when he's coming off his injury and is nowhere near 100% fit. Couldn't we save him for next Sunday's match v. Atalanta instead?

I actually think he was ready to play against Torino but they opted to rest him so he could be more ready for Shakhtar.

[hany.Egypt]

We should take to Ukraine but bench him at least in the first half and push him in the second if we need him or if we have comfortable lead.

[_Ace]

I think that Gattuso will play full 90 Mins as he has been rested last match...

I expect Ronaldo-Gila starting up but thats just me hah ? :D

also Seedorf and Kaka are going to play atleast 70 Mins but I say that Seedorf will make Gourcuff play instead of him and leave Kaka in :D
the formation I would like to see:

------Dida------
Oddo-----Nesta----Maldini/Kaladze---Serg
---------------Gattuso----------------
--------Pirlo--------------Seedorf------
----------------Kaka--------------
---------Ronaldo----Gila----------

but I think Carlo will play the christmas tree formation atleast for the first half and make Ronaldo play the second half:D

Gila will start and Score another Brace with his head :P

but yeah anyway Carlo is Carlo and he might give Inzaghi the chance to start who knows... but also Ronaldo was rested for the last match vs torino so he should start with Gila...

we'll just wait and see tomorrow :grinser:

[ukrainian_CA]

The main hope of theirs (the moles') is Dida, according to
http://football.ua/footballmagazine.html

[drucurl]

:nervous: I'm so nervous for this match...not because of Milan but if Ronaldo does crap I know a LOT of you are going to slaughter me :str: :embarass: :5hoest: :d6:

I really hope my boy Ronaldo does well but more importantly Milan use the 'up swing' of our see-saw form to get a win this time :5ok:

[Jim_UK]

I'd be surprised if Ronaldo starts this match ... and sorry to say this dru, but i wouldn't be surprised if he got injured again.

[Milanista_MP3]

Do you know where can i watch the match online?

[_Ace]

Zlat will post a link tomorrow...

[HO-YOUNG]

:nervous: I'm so nervous for this match...not because of Milan but if Ronaldo does crap I know a LOT of you are going to slaughter me :str: :embarass: :5hoest: :d6:

I really hope my boy Ronaldo does well but more importantly Milan use the 'up swing' of our see-saw form to get a win this time :5ok:

R99 wont do any crap...i dont think he will play...
I see us drawing that game...
If we score it will be Kaka...

[Blacktop]

The main hope of theirs (the moles') is Dida, according to
http://football.ua/footballmagazine.html
Nice cover. :) You're saying they think Dida will screw up on Tuesday?

[Mr. Anonymous]

:nervous: I'm so nervous for this match...not because of Milan but if Ronaldo does crap I know a LOT of you are going to slaughter me :str: :embarass: :5hoest: :d6:

I really hope my boy Ronaldo does well but more importantly Milan use the 'up swing' of our see-saw form to get a win this time :5ok:

First game back after a lengthy injury...I don't think anyone (who is being realistic) expects him to score. But this guy is a champion and knows how to get things done. If anyone can score in these circumstances its this freak of nature.

Mark my words depending on how much playing time her get...he will be freakin dangerous around the net!!!

I can't wait! :pp20:

[ukrainian_CA]

Nice cover. :) You're saying they think Dida will screw up on Tuesday?
You got it!

[remote2book]

:nervous: I'm so nervous for this match...not because of Milan but if Ronaldo does crap I know a LOT of you are going to slaughter me :str: :embarass: :5hoest: :d6:

I really hope my boy Ronaldo does well but more importantly Milan use the 'up swing' of our see-saw form to get a win this time :5ok:

i really hope so dru....but i think carlo will assess the situation for exmaple if we r winning 3-0 or something he mite bring him on or if we cant seem to score he mite bring him in the second half but iam not expecting him to startif he does ....i think shaktar will be in real trouble..

[Aficio]

Wow, Ronaldo is back. I'm waiting.

[Jeff]

LIke hitmannq8 said:

Dida
Oddo - Nesta - Maldini - Favalli
Gattuso - Pirlo - Ambrosini
Kaka - Seedorf
Inzaghi

I put Inzaghi ahead of Gilardino and Favalli ahead of SErginho.

Also, this is what Ancelotti going to do:

I expect Ronaldo to come in by the 75ish minutes; Serginho to come in around 70mins, and Gourcuff coming in at around 85mins to replace Inzaghi (if Milan is winning). If milan is losing, I expect Ronaldo to come in for either Ambro / Gattuso.

[ukrainian_CA]

I expect Ronaldo to come in by the 75ish minutes; Serginho to come in around 70mins, and Gourcuff coming in at around 85mins to replace Inzaghi (if Milan is winning). If milan is losing, I expect Ronaldo to come in for either Ambro / Gattuso.

These doesn't cover all possibilities.
Who do you sub and with whom if there is an equality on the score board?

[Mystik]

I expect losing to be equated with drawing. For Milan against most teams it's basically the same thing.

[Blacktop]

You got it!
What do I win? :)

[Jeff]

These doesn't cover all possibilities.
Who do you sub and with whom if there is an equality on the score board?

Umm... Substitute Oddo with Favalli?? :5chore:

[ukrainian_CA]

I expect losing to be equated with drawing. For Milan against most teams it's basically the same thing.

Not true when one counts points in the group at the end.

[sharfe]

Anybody knows what channel will it be covered in the Indian Sub Continent?

[forward]

This is probably a rhetorical question but,
does anyone have a live stream for the game? (non p2p, i am behind a firewall :()

[Warro Bantan]

Anyone have any kind of link at all? Cant seem to find any...anywhere!!

Zlat!! Where are u bro!!

[mzk57]

Anybody knows what channel will it be covered in the Indian Sub Continent?
Ten Sports. http://www.tensports.com

[mzk57]

d!da ahead of kalac again :wallbang:
But if Paolo starts then its a joy to watch Maldini and Nesta together, which is the best scene in soccer world today :5ok: Lets hope Maldini and Nesta won't expose that EMPTY goal for 1 second :devf:
I really miss Janku. He is great, those runs through left wings and crosses are simply fantastic. But Serginho is fine as well & Finally Mr.AC Milan (Sir Alberto Gilardino) will once again come up with 2 goals, which has now turned into habbit of his i.e. scoring not 1 but 2 goals in match :)

Take the result form me now in advance:bri:
Shakhtar Donetsk 0 - 2 AC Milan (2 goals from Gila)

[Warro Bantan]

Where are the links guys? Are they nonexistent? :moan:

Doesnt Rai usually carry our UCL games?

[_Ace]

Where are the links guys? Are they nonexistent? :moan:

Doesnt Rai usually carry our UCL games?

http://www.milanmania.com/forums/showthread.php?p=465347#post465347

Have fun

Forza Milan! :5ok:

[Warro Bantan]

Thanks Ace!!! Appreciate that!

[Warro Bantan]

Ronaldo is to start from the bench....hmmmm....dont like that, but guess its Carlo´s decision to make.

Hoping that we win this one...necessary not only just for the points, but for the side to regain the confidence lost vs Torino.

[Milan_Kaka]

"Shakhtar Boss: We'll Defend Hard Against Milan"

Bad news for us! Milan always struggle versus teams that defend deep...

[SANT]

According to Gazzetta dello Sport, and based on the light training session before the match, Milan will play like this:

Dida
Bonera, Nesta, Kaladze, Serginho
Gattuso, Pirlo, Ambrosini
Kaka', Seedorf
Gilardino

Feels like Christmas, yet?

[Baggio10]

If we Win we are virtually classified xD

[ACMILAN1983]

Ronaldo is to start from the bench....hmmmm....dont like that, but guess its Carlo´s decision to make.

Hoping that we win this one...necessary not only just for the points, but for the side to regain the confidence lost vs Torino.

I think it's fair Ronaldo starts the game from the bench. Though fit there's very little chance he's match fit and ready for competitive action, so I always suspected tonight his role would be coming on for the last 10-15 minutes of the match. I think you're right with winning this for confidence, we need every boost we can get.

I would like to see us approach this in the manner we have most matches of late. Single striker formation (Gila if ready, else Pippo) and the usual midfield lineup (again, replace those who need rest).

Serginho and Maldini should start along with Oddo and Nesta hopefully.

If things are going well, Gila should get replaced with R99 towards the end, but if we are still looking for a winning goal, then I'd like to see Ronaldo brought on alongside Gila. Essentially, I hope to see Ronaldo play a part irrespective of what's happening in the match.

FORZA MILAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[curry chicken]

TWO Massimo's are better than one. Welcome back Oddo! I'm actually a bit nervous about this match, but I beleive we will take our points in Ukraine tonight. Forza Milan per sempre!

and grazie ACE for the streams.

[Warro Bantan]

I think it's fair Ronaldo starts the game from the bench. Though fit there's very little chance he's match fit and ready for competitive action, so I always suspected tonight his role would be coming on for the last 10-15 minutes of the match. I think you're right with winning this for confidence, we need every boost we can get.

Jim_UK and I were discussing this very point on MSN Messenger the other day....and I disagree with him starting on the bench..for the following reasons:

1. His very inclusion in the starting lineup sends a signal to the opponents, and to the team
2. If he is fit enough to play, then he is fit enuf to start IMO
3. Nothing is wrong with him starting, and coming off when winded...either during HT, or minutes into the 2nd half
4. Re injury: He is more likely to get injured if/when he comes into a game where we desparately need a goal, vs at the start, when there should be more space....as regardless what the Shaktar coach says, they will attack during the game, what is important is to take advantage of their attacks by springing a quick counter...

Nuff said I think....FORZA MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILAN!!! :diablo:

[remote2book]

our line up

Dida


bonera nesta khaladze serighinio

gattuso pirlo ambrosini

seedorf kaka

Gila
idk if it s a good idea starting bonera in RB he has no expiernce in champions league everything else looks good starting sergio is a good idea and ronaldo on the bench

[Aficio]

Yeah, please let Bonera play, he can defend better than Cafu, maybe cross better, too :D

[Warro Bantan]

I am watching music videos on this channel (Solaris Sports) and getting a bit worried...does anyone else have a link with pregame show etc?

[ForzaMilano821]

Does anyone know if a higher bitrate or lower bitrate affects the quality?

Warro - im watching it on liveTV via sopcast, the pregame stuff is on

[_Ace]

myp2p is down atm.. should be back soon

[Warro Bantan]

I think higher bitrate = Higher quality, but I am not sure, and thanks for the info ForzaMilano!

[_Ace]

ah ok here we go...

http://myp2p.eu/Matches/Match4.htm

[eltomas2]

Does anyone know if a higher bitrate or lower bitrate affects the quality?

Warro - im watching it on liveTV via sopcast, the pregame stuff is on

me too,,,is crystal clear :5ok:

[King tiger]

FORZA MILAN ! ! ! hope we win this match :D

[ForzaMilano821]

me too,,,is crystal clear :5ok:
yea it is, I don't think I have ever had it so clear this year.

[eltomas2]

looks cold as hell...below 0 for sure

[Aficio]

Forza Milan, lets win this. :5ok:

[drucurl]

Sherginho shoots :rone: (ps some people say that I look just like him :eekani: )

[remote2book]

this is ridiculos no channel is working...

[eltomas2]

FK for Shaktar, and the crowd goes wild thinking they scored, hehe...ball hits the net

[ForzaMilano821]

this is ridiculos no channel is working...
use this http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=1631&part=sports


do the liveTv one for sopcast

[Warro Bantan]

We dont look so good so far...seems the cold is getting to us? Regardless, my feed is filled with constant interruptions...its crystal clear though :D

[hitmannq8]

Ahh Gila controlled nice in the area and then totally missed the ball

[Capo Ultra]

Ragazzi, you can watch the game here:

mms://cdn1.nacevi.cz/ct4-uefa

DAJE RAGAZZI! :3band:

[eltomas2]

gila controlled well on the area, was gonna shot but it was blocked by a defender

[ForzaMilano821]

We dont look so good so far...seems the cold is getting to us? Regardless, my feed is filled with constant interruptions...its crystal clear though :D

It must be my lucky day, not only is it crystal clear and no interruptions, but I my stream is ahead of yours. no more finding out about a goal on the forums before seeing it

[drucurl]

I have to follow mine here :( (working late again :yuck:)
Temp -3 degrees C :eek:

[Warro Bantan]

So far our tactics (or what I can see of them with the constant interruptions for buffering) seem to be: Lets pass the ball around in our half, then give it back to them in the final third.

Either that, or: Give the ball to Kaka, then take a free kick when they foul him.

:dontkn:

[drucurl]

YC Gattuso :wallbang:

[ReMad]

Shakhtar Donetsk vs. AC Milan: awful mistake by Serginho and Dida
http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1510211

[eltomas2]

nice header by shakhtar, right into the hands of Dida...

[Warro Bantan]

Good save by Dida, woeful defending by our team though...what are we thinking out there?

[hitmannq8]

Kaka is really poor again today so far

[drucurl]

Bring on Superman :rone:

[remote2book]

finallyy started working!!!

[remote2book]

ambro having a bad game...and most of our defence and no sign of any real spark from us....

[Warro Bantan]

We look sooooooo hopeless going forward....clueless in fact.

Not a good performance from us so far, well, not that I have seen at any rate...

[hitmannq8]

No creativity but alot of possession. We havent been dangerous yet. Ronaldo should come in half-time for Rino but I think it'll be for Ambro.

[Aficio]

Please dont say that we are freezing :P

[remote2book]

we need ronaldo in the second half....and some sort of a spark to open this game up

[eltomas2]

nasty foul by kaka,,,YC

[hitmannq8]

I thikn its the first time I see Kaka slide into some one from behind. Terrible by Kaka.

[drucurl]

:wth: YC for kaka :confused:

[Warro Bantan]

we need ronaldo in the second half....and some sort of a spark to open this game up
Spark? U mean like a Shaktar own goal? Thats the only way we will get a spark....and now what...Kaka with a yellow? Great...he is soooo off form, he should be on the bench...and I stand by that statement...silly, stupid tackle...

[ForzaMilano821]

what a save by Dida!!!!!

[drucurl]

Spark? U mean like a Shaktar own goal? Thats the only way we will get a spark....and now what...Kaka with a yellow? Great...he is soooo off form, he should be on the bench...and I stand by that statement...silly, stupid tackle...
He should score three just because you said that :nunu:

[hitmannq8]

wooow what a freekick by pirlo. I could have shot better than that FFS

[Warro Bantan]

Seems we are trying our best to lose this game...really, to protect my health, I might just stop watching this game.

How ridiculous can we get? I know we are off form, I know we are tired, but this sort of performance is just one step above pathetic.

Worst performance I have seen from us in ANY Game this season, and only Shaktar´s ineptitude in the finishing department is saving us from an embarassing scoreline...

[hitmannq8]

i swear its like we're giving the ball away on purpose.. so bad.. nesta + kaladze r the only ones doing ok.. and dida

[Warro Bantan]

Then the ref also seems to be a Shaktar fan..so no help from that quarter....poor, really poor play by us seems to be even more of the root cause why we havent managed a shot on target (unless u want to call Pirlo´s pass to the keeper a shot) in the match so far....

[ReMad]

Shakhtar Donetsk vs. AC Milan: very dangerous chance for Shakhtar
http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1510230

[Warro Bantan]

How long will the ref take to show a yellow? Or is he afraid that it will be the Shaktar season ticket pass that he will produce from his top pocket?

One more foul on Kaka and I think the linesman will have to give the yellow card!

[LuckyLuciano]

God dammit this is bad...no plan at all in the offensive play

[eltomas2]

YC for fernandino, bout time, he's been kicking kaka for a while now

[eltomas2]

Celtic 1 - 0 Benfica

[hitmannq8]

probably the worst performance all season, but im sure they're playing bad because of the cold weather (dont be surprised if you see Galliani or Carlo use that excuse after the game)

[Mundo-milan]

C'mon MILAN!!!!

[Warro Bantan]

I have to reiterate....its been years, back to the regrettable Zaccerphony years, since I have seen us play so poorly.

Pathetic really, for the defending champs to put in this sort of display. Understandable though, when there is no competition for a starting place, therefore no matter how poorly you played the game before, you are guaranteed a starting spot next match day.

Pirlo, Kaka, and Ambrosini have done absoloutley nothing this game to warrant even taking the trip to the Ukraine.

Lets hope R99 manages to make a difference...but the entire team (apart from Nesta, Kala, and Dida (for Goodness sakes!!!) who are our best players) seem clueless. This is a certifiable waste of time.

We shouldnt even come out of the tunnel for the second half, if we plan to play as we did in the first.

[remote2book]

omg celtic are winning....we need this win so we can have real advantage on top of the group......

[Maurizio]

Shaktar are playing really defensive, their really is no space for us to make something.

[eltomas2]

unleash Ronnie!!! I would take Ambro off, he's been making more fouls than anything else today...Milan is playing like the typical visitor, waiting for the other team to mess up...and shakhtar seems more conservative at home than they were at the san siro...serginho has tried pushing from the left and cause of that shaktar has looked more dangerous from his side, while bonera has contributed very little from the right but milan is more solid defiensively on the right...pirlo was limping for a while, think he's ok now...seedorf-kaka-gila have not been able to find spaces at all today, dont think Milan was ever dangerous...unleash ronnie!!!!

[Jeff]

ANyone can provide a link to the game? I tried several links but the only one working is the Ukarine channel...

[ACMILAN1983]

Poor first half. Shakhtar are playing fairly defensively looking for strong counters, though in all honesty there were periods where they dominated. Our passing is slack, we're playing very deep (at one attack I counted 7, yes 7!!! players lined up across the halfway line, we've had no width and we're way too slow. Gila's isolated up front, neither Seedorf or Kaka are anywhere to be seen a lot of the time and there's no options for players in deep areas (like Pirlo) because most of the team are to their side or just behind. Kaka I'm not too disappointed in though, as everytime he gets near the ball Fernandinho hacks away at him. In that respect Fernandinho did get a yellow at the end of the half, so Kaka shouldn't get fouled as much.

Until now a disappointing performance and a disappointing game overall. I'm certain Carlo will have seen the problems (they're pretty glaring) so should be communicating right now how to improve.

[burns]

when would y'all bring ronaldo on if you were coach?

[Warro Bantan]

Yeah, but remote, unless there is a complete "sea change" in how we play in the 2nd half, we will be lucky to leave the Ukraine with a draw.

[hitmannq8]

burns, I'd bring Ronaldo in 5 minutes into the 2nd half in for Rino (depending on how bad we playing) and Oddo for Bonera immediately because he lost far too many balls with his lame long-passes.

[sveto]

the weather is extremely cold something like -10 degrees...coooold
if celtic win tonight...omg the last game on Dec 4th is gonna be nervous at san siro

[remote2book]

can any1 help me......iam able to watch the game on sopcast and media player but...the picture is really weird...its all Orange and green and red i think there is something wrong wit the computer...can any1 help me?

[drucurl]

the referee blows for half time :zany: Am I the only one that finds that funny :grinser: ?

[Warro Bantan]

burns: Ronaldo would have started the match, were I coach...

[drucurl]

second half beaches :D :D :D

[Warro Bantan]

Is there a bonus for the defender/player that makes the most lateral passes?

[Warro Bantan]

Now its: Lets set them up for a shot on Dida why dont we?

Thats it, much more of this and I am calling it a day....

[drucurl]

Now its: Lets set them up for a shot on Dida why dont we?

Thats it, much more of this and I am calling it a day....Nah mi brethren :mad: Yuh haffi stand tall! :whie: To rasclart wid shaktar :D

[hitmannq8]

lol look at Gila's face it looks like its frozen.. Nesta is class.

we need to change the team up. we were lucky shakhthar didnt go 1-0 up jus a few mins ago

[drucurl]

de coach ah haffi put fire pon gila bombo'ole :D him ah wark bout de place like 'im ah f@#$in tourist :5dito:
him nah R'speck de ray'd 'n black

[eltomas2]

Ambro Hits The Crossbard!!!!

[hitmannq8]

ahhhhhhhhh Ambrosini hits the post from a pirlo free kick..gila fails to control the rebound

ps: keep the jamaican coming!

[King tiger]

ambro hits the post !

[Warro Bantan]

We need R99 NOW! Even if all he does for the last 10 minutes is stand up, arms on his hips, busted tired.

We need to do something, before something happens to us.

We cannot finish the match with one, 1, uno, un...ONE $#%&$"" shot on target! This is crap...the Brandao or whomever he is, just straight arms Rino, and the linesman, standing inches away, sees nothing?

While the refs and linesmen may be against us, there is no excusing the absoloutely terrible game we are playing.

I am tired of typing pathetic....

But here goes another pathetic....nope! Good free kick by Pirlo!! Finally! We hit the post! Unlucky! And then dont win even a corner....ahhh...what a game! What a night!

[Rossoneri8]

Ambrosini almost scored but looking at the other players' reaction to the rebounder,it's freezing cold everywhere....

[drucurl]

blazin' fire pon de ref bombo'ole :5dito: 'im ah fassyman :yuck:

[drucurl]

Ronaldo haffi come in fi light up de dance'all :D

[eltomas2]

Pippo coming in

[King tiger]

brandao is like allowed to kick the **** out of everyone ?

[eltomas2]

ambro is really close to a red card

[drucurl]

no ronaldo :( ?

[hitmannq8]

Pippo coming on.. good idea Pippo has good alertness maybe it'll work to his advantage in this cold..

But if he comes for anyone but Gila I'll get pissed

Ok he comes on for Gila, God saved you Carlo!

[Warro Bantan]

This ref is going to get a LADA from the Shaktar management for his ridiculous calls...what a joke!!

[Warro Bantan]

Now I can actually go home....Pippo? PUHLEASE!!

[drucurl]

ah wah fi do de rat dem :confused: meh ah fi bring dong exterminator pon 'im pidgeon s#!t @$$ :mad:

[ReMad]

Shakhtar Donetsk vs. AC Milan: header from Amrosinni hits the right post
http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1510317

Shakhtar Donetsk vs. AC Milan: Brandado hits Gattuso with his elbow
http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1510312

[King tiger]

pipoooooooooooooo

[inomilan]

Pippo scores!

[Jeff]

Inzaghi!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Great ball by Pirlo!!!!

[drucurl]

GOALLLL!!!!!! SUPER PIPPO!!! :rone:

[hitmannq8]

PIPOOOOO Goalalalalal

[Rossoneri8]

super pippo,super man is back

[ForzaMilano821]

piirlooo....inzagghiiii!! GOAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Maurizio]

About time.

[eltomas2]

HAHAHA PIPPO!!!!!!!! that stupid fernandino lost the ball to who else but Pirlo, nice pass to inzagui who shots it to the back of the net

[hitmannq8]

stunningggggggg footwork by Seedorf... Pirlo spotted the acre of space to pass the ball to Pippoooooooooooooooooooo who doesssssssssssss it agaaaaaaaaaaaaaain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Warro Bantan]

GOOOOOAAAAAAALLLLLLL Wow!! Never thought I would see that! And I didnt, as the stream froze!!! Love it!!!!!!!!!!

[Jeff]

Feel absolutely bad for Gila now hahahahhaa!

But great defense by Pirlo who then gave a great pass.

[NAMMY]

Yay!!!!!!!

[hitmannq8]

omg Shakhthar so close to scoring a header.. where was his man????

[Warro Bantan]

DIDA!! Comes up with another super save!! Straight at him, but he didnt spill it!! FORZA DIDA!!

[remote2book]

inzaghiiiiiiiiiiiii

[ReMad]

Shakhtar Donetsk vs. AC Milan: 1st goal for Milan by Inzaghi
http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1510342

[drucurl]

I must say Dida is playing like I know he can :respect:

[Aficio]

Wow, I love Pippo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Warro Bantan]

Another yellow for Ambro...he or Rino need to be subbed for Brocci....

[Maurizio]

Ambro needs to stop with these fouls.

[hitmannq8]

Ambro gets a yellow...Bring in Brocchi for Ambro, or Ronaldo to kill them with the spaces that are going to open up. AMbro has to leave before he gets red.

[remote2book]

goallllllllllllllll kaka!!!!!!!!

[eltomas2]

Lazio up 2 - 0,,rochi brace

[Jeff]

Kaka``````````````````!!!!!!!!!!

[King tiger]

goal ! !!!!!!!!

[Maurizio]

Goal Kaka !!!

[Logiee]

Goallllllllll

[remote2book]

kaka!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ForzaMilano821]

Goalllllllllllllll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Kzakaka!!!!!!!!!!!!11

[hitmannq8]

goooooooooooaL KAKAAA BEAUTIFUL WORK BY PIPPPPPPOoooooooooooooooooooo

[Rossoneri8]

I just can't help laughing everytime I see Dida's warming up...If I were him,I'd have put some chocolates in the pocket

[Warro Bantan]

GOAL!! KAKA!!! Super assist from Super Pippo!!! Wonderful! Finally!!

[King tiger]

its like we are 40% better with pippo :|

[Mystik]

Goaaal Kaka 2-0

[drucurl]

Kakaaaaaa!!!!!!!

[eltomas2]

HAHAHA,,,nice controlled by Pippo, passed to kaka who put it away,,hehe

[remote2book]

good pass by pippo!!!! waat a difference pippo has made!!

[Milan_Kaka]

I love how pippo runs after he scores a goal!!

[Jeff]

Now, Gila hater can go ahead and bash Gila and bla bla bla but I don't care.

Who should we give credit to besides Gilardino?

Still don't know the answer?

Of course it's Ancelotti!!!!!!!

[hitmannq8]

Pippo come Maradona!

Yes Jeff, Carlo finally realized his mistake of playing Gila Pippo together. Thank god he didnt do it today and look what happens.

[Milan_Kaka]

kakkaaaaaaa

[eltomas2]

the long pass was from sergio...nice one

[NAMMY]

At least Carlo's finally made a good sub, I hope we don't become too defensive.

[Aficio]

I wonder what has Carlo said to the team at the break :D

[remote2book]

more like wat pippo said to carlo....

[drucurl]

Now, Gila hater can go ahead and bash Gila and bla bla bla but I don't care.

Who should we give credit to besides Gilardino?

Still don't know the answer?

Of course it's Ancelotti!!!!!!!
Agreed it reminds me of when he brought on Maldini vs Lyon I was like :wth: WTF? Then we got the goal and I felt happy and stupid at the same time.

[ReMad]

Shakhtar Donetsk vs. AC Milan: 2nd goal for Milan by Kaka
http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1510360

[Jeff]

Pippo come Maradona!

Yes Jeff, Carlo finally realized his mistake of playing Gila Pippo together. Thank god he didnt do it today and look what happens.

I would bring Ronaldo on for the last 5 minutes just to get him warm up for big games. Sub Ambro who has already a yellow card.

[remote2book]

any chance of ronaldo coming on?

[Mystik]

Maldini on for Seedorf :s wtF was Pirlo doing there? Almost cost us a goal.

[Jeff]

And instead, it's Maldini for Seedorf -.-!

[Mundo-milan]

Damn...Look at Liverpool!!!

[remote2book]

maldini in..seddorf out...

[hitmannq8]

Maldini on for Seedorf. What the hell is Carlo doing? 5-4-1?

[Warro Bantan]

No game for R99 it seems....Maldini on for Seedorf...

[remote2book]

bonera sux...he hasnt shown much on the right side in defence or attacking

[Milan_Kaka]

Liverpool are on fire

[hitmannq8]

pirlo loses possesion right on the edge of our box by trying to be fancy. they nearly scored. deserves a slap.

[eltomas2]

so sergino moves to the midfield, maldini to LB...nice counterattack by Milan but bad last pass by kaka

[remote2book]

good job dida he has been very solid today playing wit cinfidence

[hitmannq8]

We are sitting back faaaaaaaaar too much. I dont like this.

[Aficio]

Hic, Liverpool is crazy

[remote2book]

lets bring on ronaldoooo

[Mystik]

Brocchi on for Serginho.

[drucurl]

No Ronaldo :( Brocchi in forza milan :)

[Jeff]

Doesn't help when you (liverpool) score so many....

[hitmannq8]

Brocchi for Serginho. No Ronaldo.

[eltomas2]

brochi in...no ronnie today

[jcastagn]

Maldini on for Seedorf. What the hell is Carlo doing? 5-4-1?

You should be happy, we are winning 2-0.

[Warro Bantan]

Brocci coming in...knew it...for Serginho...no R99...come on Carlo!! U should have given him a run!! Even in the cold!

[NAMMY]

Just a bit defensive today then, but it makes sense.

[hitmannq8]

maybe you should look at Valencia who are losing at home 2-0 to Rosenborg, who also defeated them 2-0 in the previous game!! Rosenborg also beat Chelsea at London 1-0!!!

[drucurl]

Inzaghi has 61 CL goals ONE more behind all time leader Gerd Muller!

[Warro Bantan]

What did he blow for? A penalty?

This ref is a joke!!!

[remote2book]

wat the heck..nvm....i guess its gonna be the other superman.....brochi

[Mystik]

LOL the guy hurt his arm diving for a penalty. Serves him right honestly.

[Maurizio]

Liverpool 8-0

[drucurl]

OMG I think Besiktas needs a white flag or something :eek: 8-0

[Jeff]

Liverpool 8-0

4 points in the group, if you will :).

[remote2book]

wayyy too much defending..lets get one quick CA and finish this off

[eltomas2]

OMG I think Besiktas needs a white flag or something :eek: 8-0
I think is liverpools first win in the CL this season...this win only puts them in third in their group

[Jeff]

Bonera on the right is really, really, worrying...

[remote2book]

dida accidently smacked khladze dat mush have hurt in this kinda cold

[drucurl]

Super save via Sir Nelson of Dida :respect:

[remote2book]

yea bonera shud not be started...luckly this is only shakhtar..

[remote2book]

goallllllllllllllll

[Mystik]

Goal 3-0 Inzaghi!

[Jeff]

Inzaghi... finish up the game 3-0!!!!

[drucurl]

Super Pippo is back :D :D :D goal!!!!!

[King tiger]

pippo = Gerd muller .


:D

[eltomas2]

hehe, pippo again, a nice gift by kaka

[Maurizio]

Goalllllllllllll

[hitmannq8]

goaaaaaaaaaaal PIPPO 3-0

(*)(*)THE HIGHEST ALL-TIME SCORER FILIPPO INZAGHI WITH 52 goals (along with Muller).. WITH THIS POST I HAVE JUST MADE HISTORY(*)(*)

[remote2book]

pipooo1!!!!!!!

[ForzaMilano821]

Goal...inzaghi!!!!!! tied with muller

[Jeff]

Just a difference in class.

A small mistake by shaktar, Pirlo capitalized it, and INzaghi with the usual shooting instinct.

That is what makes a Milan a champion.

[Aficio]

Oh yeah. 3-0 is good, lets forget Liverpool :D

[jcastagn]

Well done Milan. Way to pick up three points. Now lets try and get a string of wins together! Forza Milan!! Good job Pippo!

[Warro Bantan]

Nice assist by KAKA!! Good goal by Pippo! This was going to happen...and I am glad it did, sooner rather than later...Pippo, tied with Gerd as the highest UCL scorer of all time!!

Well done Milan (in the last half at any rate!!!)

[ReMad]

Shakhtar Donetsk vs. AC Milan: 3rd goal for Milan by Inzaghi
http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1510388

[drucurl]

FT goodnight everybody Forza Milan

P.S. Besiktas ...kindly do yourselves the favour of walking with your own K-Y next time :eekani: you need to plan for the unexpected ;)

[hitmannq8]

This just confirms one thing:

FORM IS TEMPORARY. CLASS IS PERMANENT.

Must I say it was one of the worst performances by Milan. By Kaka and Pirlo in particular. Inzaghi came on and made a world of difference. Well done Carlo for bringing Pippo on instead of Gila and not with him. :respect:

And here's a lil stat for you guys:
In CL we played 4 games so far:

Milan 2-1 Benfica
Celtic 2-1 Milan
Milan 4-0 Shakhtar
Shakhtar 0-3 Milan

10 goals for, 3 conceded

[Bosniaco]

Inzaghi is such a lucky player man. Two goals scored and made one for Kaka, and I dont think that he ran 1000m. Unbelivable.

[ReMad]

Shakhtar Donetsk vs. AC Milan: awful mistake by Serginho and Dida
http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1510211

Shakhtar Donetsk vs. AC Milan: very dangerous chance for Shakhtar
http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1510230

Shakhtar Donetsk vs. AC Milan: dangerous shoot for Shakthar by Fernandinho
http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1510304

Shakhtar Donetsk vs. AC Milan: header from Amrosinni hits the right post
http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1510317

Shakhtar Donetsk vs. AC Milan: Brandado hits Gattuso with his elbow
http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1510312

Shakhtar Donetsk vs. AC Milan: 1st goal for Milan by Inzaghi
http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1510342

Shakhtar Donetsk vs. AC Milan: 2nd goal for Milan by Kaka
http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1510360

Shakhtar Donetsk vs. AC Milan: 3rd goal for Milan by Inzaghi
http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1510388

[Milan_Kaka]

Inzaghi = the joker

[hitmannq8]

Inzaghi is such a lucky player man. Two goals scored and made one for Kaka, and I dont think that he ran 1000m. Unbelivable.

Lucky? you support Milan for a long time now and you know Pippo inside out, and you claim he is lucky? :d55:

[Jeff]

Luck or no luck, he scored!!!!!!!!! This is a morale boaster for him as he has not been doing well recently. Coming in at the 60ish minutes and scored twice and made one for Kaka` is incredible. Kudos to him.

Will he start the next match? Or Ancelotti is going to play a 4-3-1-2 formation next week with Inzaghi + Ronaldo or Gila + Ronaldo in front? We'll see, but this is getting exciting with Ronaldo coming back from injury to partner Inzaghi/Gila!!

[Mehdi]

I think it's clear we need a new coach just for Serie A and keep Ancelotti for Europe:)

[jcastagn]

hitmannq8,
Just a correction shakhtar scored at the San Siro, it was 4-1, but point taken. Our results look a lot better than in serie a, we've scored in every game so far!

[ACMILAN1983]

Great result, poor performance and I'm on top of the moon. Despite the final score, today we did something I've not seen us do in a loooooong time and that's win ugly. We weren't good, Shakhtar probably should have score 3 themselves, but in the end we won, and that's something I doubt we would have done in most other games of late.

The first half was a typical dull affair. Little happened, we were slow, way too deep, without width and no pace in our play at all. Kaka and Seedorf were no where, Kaka especially but then again he was fouled everytime he got within 5 feet of the ball. Simply put we looked uninspired.

The second half was an improvement as we pushed up and tried to get the ball further up the field faster. However, there still didn't look to be anything there for us until Pippo came on, and he was the perfect addition to the mix tonight. Still defensively we weren't good and Shakhtar should have scored at least 1.

Players...

Dida - Excellent, a rock
Bonera - Looked pretty frail, offensively added nothing and defensively got drawn central too often.
Nesta - Excellent as normal
Kala - Excellent like Nesta
Serginho - Disappointing as he didn't offer much going forward and defensively not great
Rino - Worked very well, was important defensively
Pirlo - Pretty disappointing on the whole, but excellent for 2 of the goals
Ambro - Poor game, looked to be all over the place and clumsy
Seedorf - wasn't ever really in the game
Kaka - Poor for most of the game, yet a moment of magic to score and the assist for Pippo is all he needed
Gila - Not a bad game by any means, worked hard and held up the ball very well. Unfortunately he was also isolated up front with 3-4 defenders on him almost the whole time
Pippo - Outstanding, he was a menace to Shakhtar
Maldini - Solid at LB
Brocchi - wasted time by coming on I guess

Today the Man of the Match has to be Carlo with his inspired sub. Pippo coming on for Gila lost me as I couldn't see how Pippo would fare any different, but after a few minutes it was evident that unlike Gila, Pippo ALWAYS plays on the shoulder of the last man and thus was able to get behind the Shakhtar defence if one of Pirlo's passes were right (Kaka and Seedorf were too tightly watched to make a difference). It worked a charm and naturally we then took advantage of the space that opened up.

I had hoped to see Ronaldo prior to the game, but I think it's fair he didn't play as we already made the sub in attack with Pippo and it would have been a waste to bring on Ronaldo too when we needed to sure up the defence and midfield.

Big win tonight, Now to Atalanta!!

FORZA MILAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[HO-YOUNG]

Thank all controlling factors that help us to win tonight.

[Giorgos]

I just got in, i couldn't participate because i had a terrible headache and i could't stand up in front of the coomputer, i didn't see the game because i was anxious, i just saw the result, so.... the team qualified for "16" and the target of the board is ok, but let's focus on the Serie A and do transfers to get better at championship....

[remote2book]

gooooddd win..its weird how carlo always says that the defences r too tite in serie A but i twas the same thing in first half...but somehow we always manage in the CL we shud really figure it out cuz if we play anything like we do in the CL which we do from time to time we r dominate!!

[Rossoneri8]

it's a game that Gila'd have learnt something form it. No matter how good your first touch is, how strong you are aginst the defence, how many meters your've covered, finishing is the sweetest thing to the team. Pippo is simply the best in CL.

[mrki]

I really dont know what the hell to say about the way Gilardino plays his football. Is he the worst forward in CL???

This win was essential as we can now calmly go to Lisabon and play for another X as we did today, but today we got 3 points... Good game, good night.

P.S.

Ronaldo, come back man, we need you!!!

[hitmannq8]

I wouldnt agree that we played for the X today, we simply wanted control of the match and dont have any creativity thats what made it look like we're satisfied with the 0-0. Gila didnt do bad, he actually did better than Kaka. Seedorf wasn't in the game much but did have a nice moment that lead to the first goal. For arguements sake, I will ignore our teams performance this game and blame it on the cold. Let's see what other excuses they can come up with. Besides, isn't the Atalanta game after the Intl. break?

[Nadir]

OH NO! WE ONLY WON 3-0!!! WHEN WILL GALLIANI LEARN!? WE NEED TO GET RID OF INZAGHI AND GET SOME NEW PLAYERS!!

CRISIS CRISIS CRISIS!!!!! FROM THE MOMENT I SAW THE STARTING LINEUP, I KNEW WE WOULD ONLY SCRAPE BY A 3-0 VICTORY. HORROR!!!

:5ok:

[mrki]

Gila didnt do bad, he actually did better than Kaka.


Kaka played in the middle and up front, passed well, scored GREAT goal and gave Pippo is second in the end.

What did Gila do? Gila didnt do bad? What is worse than this for a forward that costs 25 mln and plays for great Milan?

I really liked Gila all the way, but enough is enough. His performacnes are simply horrible! He scored in 3 matches this season, in games in which Milan played great. Good, but not good enough.

He cant pass, cant dribble, hold off tackles, shoot, sprint fast... For example, Lucarelly: He is a good player that isnt well known world wide as Gila is and still can do the basics 1000 times better than Gilardino.

Dont tell me that Gila "moved well" or " passed well". What the hell does that mean? Lets not speak like Galliani, he is protectiong his WRONG investment that costed Silvio 25 mln. In that time I was also praying we sign Gila, but it shows now that he cant play for Milan. It was a mistake, lets move on! Why should we lie? Every normal player can do what Gila is doing, and "great movement" "positioning2 and " holding up the ball" isnt something that should be sooooo appreciated as Gila isnt moving that good, or holding the ball that well. Come on, he plays like ****! People around the world are laughing at Milan fans and the club when they see Gilardino. Lets be real about him.

this is not a post against you hitmann, its about Gila :)

Its enough, he sucks and is a worst player we payed that much in years! Cant do anything at top level and cant play for Milan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What isnt clear in this??

Carlo will today say: bravo Gila, he made 4 good 3 meter passes and got fouled twice. But inside he is thinking: " oh my god, the times with Sheva and Crespo were a blessing..."

[Bosniaco]

Lucky? you support Milan for a long time now and you know Pippo inside out, and you claim he is lucky? :d55:
We both know that Pippo does not have any speed, no dribblings, no big strength but he has the knowlegde of being in the right spots at the right time and sometimes you need to be lucky. I think he was little bit lucky today, beacuse the second goal he scored it was Kaka's goal. But anyways I'm happy for Pippo, I'm happy for Milan because we won, lets hope it continues like this.

[will4li]

I didn't see the match;after reading some posts,It seems luck finally smiles at us.Congradulation to super pippo for becoming the alltime greatest striker in euro competition.

[R9naldo]

anyone knows whos showing atalanta game in the US???