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Originally Posted by Jeff
This is what I wrote, and I quote it here again:
"I'm just very disappointed that some of us here are very pessismistic to the point that one endorses Inter mentality."
One of my mentors, when he was young, used to serve the high school tennis team, and he almost always lost (he didn't hide his disappointment obivously) because their team was simply not competitive enough. But, does it mean that he'll be happy if he drew, or if he won? He'll certainly be happy, but he also knows that it's realistic that he'll lose. BUT, and here is an important BUT, does it mean that he'll have to endorse a "I'm ok with it even if I lose attitude"? If he did, then I felt really bad for his coach who simply failed to motivate him.
This is the difference between being very pessimistic vs. being realistic. When you are pessimistic, you are 'happy' with a draw, but ok with a lost. I seriously doubt this is what the players are thinking. Being realistic, though, means that the players should know that this is a difficult moment, but they have to face the problems together and overcome it. That's REALISTIC. Who doesn't know that Milan is not in trouble? Do you REALLY think that the management doesn't know that MIlan is in big trouble? You think they are THAT dumb? You really believe that? You think they are retarded people who could achieve in the past with glory but now couldn't do anything due to some exogenous reasons?
That's what I"m asking people here. Be realistic: Stop whimming about Milan not buying any player in Janurary, didn't buy anyone in summer, sack the coach and all this UNREALISTIC albeit pessismistic thinking. BE REALISTIC. It's important to keep a winning mentality even if you know that you are the underdog. I'm sure Liverpool has taught us a good lesson? When we were up 3-0 and Sheva started to celebrate, that'se OPTIMISTIC. Do you see anyone of us doing that?
We can't even win 3-0 when we are of top form. What makes you think that people will be so optimsitic now?
This is my position: There is nothing wrong to be realistic, but some of the people's pessimism has gone so far that it meant a losing, (a.k.a. Internazionale) mentality, and that's how exactly you lose (known as self-fulfilling prophecy). You want an example? Look at Inter. They didn't even have the winning mentality, and that's why they didn't win ANYTHING at all in the past.
I'm sorry, but I find your supposition about 'blind optimism' laughable. First off, there is no optimism here. How can I be blind then? Not being pessimistic doesn't entail that one must be optimistic. I'm worried, but I'm not pessimistic like some of you who thought that a draw would be a good result.
Talking about realism and optimism: Bashing the team (some of the MM members here) here, saying that the management should sack the coach, buy this or that player etc, is indeed unrealistic. In fact, these are the optimistic people who think that this will solve the problem.
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I m sorry Jeff, but you really misinterpret the meaning of "pessimism" and "realism". Lets see if i can explain that in plain english...
Pessimism - it is when a person always thinks about the worst possible scenario (even if nothing predicts the bad outcomes).
Realism - it is when a person thinks according to the situation...if there are reasons for bad outcomes - he thinks that it is very likely for bad outcome to happen, however if nothing predicts a bad outcome - he would not expect it.
Optimism - it is when a person doesnt care about reasons, and always believes in a good outcome.
What I have said above is a common knowledge, i did not invent it.
So lets apply it to our disscussion above...
Milan is losing or drawing almost every game (even against very small teams), we have 2 of our key players injured (Dida and Nesta), our strikers are in a bad shape...On the other hand we have fiorentina, who has currently 2 best strikers of Serie A: Mutu and Toni. And we are playing away...It is realistically to think that we ll lose against Fiorentina...we might draw as well. But believing that we win is optimism in this situation.
However, we all still hope that Milan will win...hope and believe are to different things.
I did not say that I d be happy with a draw, i said I d be pleased with a draw, as it would bring us 1 point. I d be happy if they win, but I would not be very upset if they lose, not because i m a pessimist, but because i can see it coming. I still would be upset, but not as upset as i d be if I did not see it coming.
Same as me, most of the people here are being realistic...they understand that there are reasons, which might bring us this loss agaisnt fiorentina, but we all hope that we will win this game.
You, on the contrary, are optimist. You dont pay attention to what the reasons are, you just believe that we ll win, no matter what. And that is your choice...but dont blame people here for seeing the real picture.