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Originally Posted by Stezagud
exchange rates have changed, Gila cost £17.2m at the time  |
well, exchange rates change, inflation changes i.e. money's worth changes - 24 mil euros 2-3 years ago isn't the same as 25 mil euros now.
Not to mention that transfer market changes as well - Chelski were offering 32 mil and even more for Gila, and how much do you think they would offer for Bent?
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Gila hit 50 in 96 games for Parma, Bent managed 31 in 68 for Charlton, so there isnt much difference in the rate. One clear difference is that Gila had Morfeo supplying him, and Morfeo is 10 times the playmaker that any of Charltons players are.
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you are "cheating" here a bit
- Gila's first season at parma was that of a reserve player and those 24 games in which he scored 4 goals were mostly games of 10-15 min of playing time for the guy, if that. The next season, he was reserve to Adriano for the first half of the season and became Parma's starting striker only after Adriano moved to Inter during the winter break - yet Gila scored 24 goals there.
So, taking off the 1st of his 3 seasons at Parma, and even counting the 2nd as a full season of him having a regular starting place, he scored 46 goals in 72 games for parma.
And he did that in Italy, most defensive league out there where players start a game thinking about defense and finish it thinking about ... catenaccio
As for Morfeo - you should tell him that cause he obviously doesn't know it himself ... and neither do the Parma fans of a team that was struggling to avoid relegation and did so thanks to Gila's 2 great season over there.
Morfeo is a good player but no reason to make him look like the second coming of Zidane just to prove a point
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You're paying too much attention to the press figures. The fee is £16m in total and that includes various clauses. For Spurs to have to pay the full amount they would most likely have to win the league (or at the very least qualify for the CL proper) as well as have Bent top score for them and become an England regular achieving a certain amount of caps. If all of that is achieved then he was worth the money
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you probably know the details better as I couldn't bother where Bent has gone and for how much
btw, just curious - was that on the tottenham or charlton site or just an interpretation of a journalist ... things that we read every day and then the following they turn out not to be true?
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The real fee's Utd paid for Carrick and Hargreaves were nearer £10m than £18, and both Nani and Anderson deals were the same. Only if Utd dominate domestically and in the CL for 5 years and these players all stay that long will they then will cost the full fees, and again, if all that is achieved then they will have paid for themselves in prize money alone
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Steza, I think the argument was about English clubs overpaying on players when they were transfered from one EPL team to another i.e. the inner transfers market forthe EPL - Nani, Anderson, and Hargreaves are NOT such players.
anyways, I think you ManU fans are trying a bit too hard to make it look like a steal
I don't know about Spurs, as the EPL inner market is off the hooks of the minds of mainland europeans
but Do you really believe bayern or Porto (with so many teams after Anderson and the market having barely started) would agree on a deal like that ... teams that know well the worth of their players and ask for BIG money for them and don't just hand in gifts left and right?
Also, ManU had to pay the buy-out clause for Nani to take him hence the speed with which the Nani and Anderson transers were done and dusted in less than a day - only a really big cash offer whitheout much "IFs and IF thats" can do that for players who are among the most sought after in Europe.
so I don't see how that would include those 5 years of EPl and CL domination you guys might be chatting about in ManU forums ... again, seriously guys, what serious club would agree to a deal like that for it's most prized asset?
What else is left - Porto and Sporting will still be receiving money for Anderson and Nani when those guys will be retiring already?
even if there were some clauses, and maybe there were, they would not make a vast differene in the amount Bayern, Porto, Sporting would receive in the end of the day - say, just an example, if the clauses were all enforced, they would get 25mil as opposed 22 in case they aren't.
Similarly, the clauses for RvN to Real transfer were of similar nature but ended up bringing 1M to ManU or so and all that for 1 year ... it's not like they would be getting 1M every year that he has left on his Real M contract.
Let's be a bit more realistic here - ManU made very good, maybe even great deals as it is but there is no reason to make it sound like they fooled everyone else - ManU gets good players but also pays good money for those players.